ANNOUNCE: 64 bit 8.0-RELEASE-p1 Custom XFCE build available

2009-12-26 Thread Manolis Kiagias
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Hey all,

I have just completed the long awaited, first 64bit build of the
'Custom releases'
project hosted here:

http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com

You may download the ISO file immediately using the downloads page:

http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page

This release is based on the latest XFCE desktop and includes a wide
variety
of desktop-related packages, like OpenOffice, abiword, gnumeric,
firefox35,
gimp, inkscape, evince and so on. The base system is 8.0-RELEASE-p1 which
includes the latest security fixes.

Make sure to read the README file:

http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/amd64/README.TXT

as it contains important information on installation and esp. a few steps
that are required for a successful install.  In particular note:

* The 'doc' set (FreeBSD documentation) is not included in this
release due
  to problems in the related package builds. We will include them in
  next releases when the problem is resolved.

* The 'libchek-0.9.8' will have to be selected manually in the package
  selection dialog. This seems to be a problem with the INDEX file.

* Installing linux related packages during initial setup needs a few more
  steps. This is due to differences in sysinstall between 7.X and 8.0
releases.
 A detailed explanation is provided in the README file.

As always, please report any problems, success stories, comments and
criticisms to mano...@freebsd.org
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Re: freebsd for children

2009-12-26 Thread Dhénin Jean-Jacques
http://www.xm1math.net/algobox/index.html

is a very nice french software for beginer

be seeing you
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Re: location of discussion of lives

2009-12-26 Thread Matthew Seaman

leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote:

Good morning, dear FreeBSD enthusiast.  Can you help me to negotiate
the FreeBSD website?  I am trying to find a general discussion about
livefs.   I have not been successful at entering the correct
sequence of search terms to find a general discussion about this
topic.  I would like to know what this feature does, and the
situation in which a user would wish to install it.  My question
would refer to either release 7 or release 8.  Thanks for any and all
enlightenment.  Yours truly, Lee S.


'livefs' is not something I recognize that you can install like
that.  In fact, it's not something I heard of in exactly those terms.

About the closest thing is 'live filesystem' -- which is usually used
in the context of the .iso CD/DVD images used for installation.  In this
sense, the installation media contain a ready-to-run copy of FreeBSD, and
it's 'live' in the sense that you can just boot up from one of the CDs and
drop into a fully function copy of the OS running from the CD.  ie. it's
an ordinary filesystem, but presented so that it can be used live.  To do
this, boot from FreeBSD installation media, and select 'Fixit' mode from
the main menu, then (I think) 'Live Filesystem' from the next screen.

Note that although this is a fully functional FreeBSD system, it's *just*
FreeBSD -- no add-on software.  Which means: no X windows, no graphical
applications.  You will need to be capable with a Unix CLI to use it.

If you want a Live-CD with all the glitz and windowing stuff, then search
for Freesbie -- the projects main page should be at http://www.freesbie.org/
but it seems to have been down for some months.  You can still get the
disk images though. eg:

http://ftp.uk.freesbie.org/sites/ftp.freesbie.org/pub/FreeSBIE/

Cheers,

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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Matthew Seaman

Gary Kline wrote:


The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so.  If getting the
keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
that easy, it would have been done after 15 years.  Even Linux
	lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too.  


Uh, it was done years ago.  Look at the xset(1) manual page -- there are
options there to turn on key-click.  They've been there since before the
millennium as I recall.  Most people find key-click intensely annoying (even
more so if it's on someone else's machine) so it's turned off by default.

As it's an X windows thing, it should be available on any OS where you can
run an X server, so any Linux or FreeBSD.  Of course, you will need some sort
of speaker in the machine to generate the noises, but that can be very
rudimentary.  If your machine can emit a beep, then it can probably do
key click too.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Wireless USB adapter

2009-12-26 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 12/26/09, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 05:24:32PM +0100, Paul B Mahol wrote:
 On 12/25/09, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:29:20 +0100
  Paul B Mahol one...@gmail.com replied:
 
 Argh, sorry but 7.2 doesnt have NDIS usb support. You need FreeBSD 8.0
 
  I have been reading up on this. So I assume that it is not possible to
  get this adapter working under FreeBSD-7.2 then. Is there a native
  driver for this adapter under 8.0 or will I need to build the driver
  from the Windows driver?

 On 8.0 you can use NDISulator or run(4) driver, for the last solution
 search forums.freebsd.org

 There exists a run(4) in OpenBSD that suppports the RT2870 in the
 WUSB600N. But not in FreeBSD yet, not in 8-STABLE
 http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/stable/8/sys/dev/usb/wlan/
 and not even in HEAD;
 http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/sys/dev/usb/wlan/

I did not said that run(4) is available in STABLE or HEAD. I said that code for
HEAD and STABLE is available on the net.

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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Nick Barnes
At 2009-12-26 09:36:14+, Matthew Seaman writes:

 Uh, it was done years ago.  Look at the xset(1) manual page -- there are
 options there to turn on key-click.  They've been there since before the
 millennium as I recall.  Most people find key-click intensely annoying (even
 more so if it's on someone else's machine) so it's turned off by default.

I seem to recall an irritating colleague who had click turned on,
circa 1990.

Nick B
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Re: Upgrade 7.0 to 7.2 installworld failed - SOLVED

2009-12-26 Thread Colin

On 25/12/2009 00:44, Mel Flynn wrote:

Take the reboot out of the equation and keep  it simple:
su to root
mkdir /usr/testdir
cd /usr/src
env -i make buildworld
env -i make installworld DESTDIR=/usr/testdir

Kernel has nothing to do with installworld target.
   


Taking the reboot out of the equation with the normal process doesn't 
make a difference however using env -i doe thus it must be a setting. 
Can I safely rm /ust/testdir without anything breaking now?


On 25/12/2009 06:36, Igor V. Ruzanov wrote:

These things are for cvsup utility setup and they are not invoked to point
on options responsible for specific system building. Try to add the
following lines to /etc/make.conf:
   
CFLAGS= -O -pipe

NO_FORTRAN= true
NO_OBJC=true
NO_X=   true
NO_GAMES=true
NO_PROFILE=  true

and re-make buildworld, then make installworld.


When I run cvsup it uses a specific supfile anyway that has much the 
same settings, I think the ones in make.conf are there for one of my 
nightly port updating scripts.
Adding the options you have mentioned to make.conf however made no 
difference to the installworld error.


Thus I started playing I took out the following which make it work:

#PERL_VERSION=5.8.9
#BATCH=YES
#CRYPT_DES=0
#WITHOUT_ALT_CONFIG_PREFIX=YES

Take your pick as to which one it was but I thought I'd post back so 
anyone else having the problem can look into it. Its a bit odd that 
moving make.conf aside didn't work though so there must be some other 
stuff in make.conf that is also required to prevent the problem..


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Re: Firefox 3.5 and Epiphany crashing since the GNOME 2.28 update

2009-12-26 Thread Anh Ky Huynh
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:36:36 -0800 (PST)
Neil Short nesh...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am suddenly running into the same problem. I was running Firefox
 2.0... and when I right-clicked an image and selected save as the
 program segment-faulted. I upgraded to firefox-3.0.16_1,1. Same
 issue. I'm guessing it's related to some other port that got
 updated along the way.
 
 Data:
 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE
 Running blackbox-0.70.1_2
 ==

Please check your disk space (esp. the free space for your home directory and 
/tmp). Firefox will almost crash if there aren't any available blocks for 
saving/temporary files.

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Re: portaudit php vulnerabilities

2009-12-26 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:45:39 -0800
Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com replied:

 For the past week or so, portaudit has been warning me that the
 installed version of php on my system (php5-5.2.11_1) has known
 vulnerabilties. Fair enough. However, I've not seen a fix in the
 ports tree since then. Is my only option to deinstall php until this
 gets fixed?

Hi.  I've been experiencing the same problem.  Apparently 5.2.12 is
not in the ports yet, but probably will be soon.

If found it necessary to do some port-related commands even though
5.2.11 is currently blacklisted by portaudit.  You can use
DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES in your commands as outlined here until there
is an updated port:

Same problem here. I was going to update to FreeBSD-8 this weekend;
however, I thought better of it. As sure as death and taxes, I know
that as soon as I install FBSD-8 with PHP the new version of PHP will
become available. I'll install it and something will break. I'll just
wait until this problem is resolved.

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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:50:48 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:53:43PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
  On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 There are a few who actually *do* have text-only pages.
  
  And fewer do have alt= and longdesc= for included images.
  Being suitable for blind users doesn't mean to completely
  look boring to viewing users. Careful HTML coding is the key.
  But sadly, it's not considered modern... :-(
 
   Right on the money there!  I suppose it's easier to slap up some
   pix.  maybe I do things with fewer photos because I hand-code html.
   In any case, I'm very conscious of my markup; I always check it via
   lynx .

I work the same way, but I even apply the step of validating
the HTML code through W3C validator.

I would appreciate an urge to web developers to code valid
HTML. And web browsers should implement it. Then all the
scary non-HTML pages could not be viewable anymore, the
browser shows nothing, or gives an error message: The page
you're intending to view does not contain valid HTML and
cannot be displayed. Contact the author to request a valid
version of the document. :-)



 Education is the only solution, even tho it will take generations.
 That's why I think the XO is a win++
  
  It can help, if properly used. Wrong use can lead into the
  opposite. I can only tell you from Germany where school and
  education are epically failing since 1990, even though they
  employ modern means of education... a joke from an educational
  (scientifical) point of view.
 
   Are there regional differences, still? East/west? whatever?

Of course.

First off all, basic education in the eastern part (GDR) is
still a bit better due to better teachers who are still on
duty. In the western part (FRG), education is worse, basically.

Then, there are differences between the federal countries.
There's no common educational concept. Schools are organized
differently (different layers, different names, different
degrees), horizontally and vertically. Degrees are not
comparable inside Germany, so for example when you leave
Gymnasium (high school) in Hamburg, you can join a university
in Hamburg, but you cannot join a university in Munich because
it doesn't recognize your degree from Hamburg.

There are no common teaching plans. If you move from Leipzig
to Hannover, you're doomed.

The GDR didn't have those problems. Teaching plans were
the same in every school. Same plans, same books, same speed.
Results were comparable.

Sweden has adopted the unified GDR educational system, with
success.

In the FRG, education selects the future of the children
by the income of their parents. If you have rich parents,
you can affort to go to Gymnasium (high school, 13 years)
and go to university later on. If your parents are poor,
e. g. unemployed, you have to go to Hauptschule (main
school, 8 years), and maybe Realschule (real school, 10
years), but you cannot go to university with such a degree.
You will even have major problems finding a professional
education in order to get a job.

The levels of how good schools are considered in society
have lowered through the years. In approx. 1995, Gymnasium
was over-qualified, Realschule was ideal for a very good
job and Hauptschule was good for a normal job. 10 years
later, in approx. 2005, everything was shifted , with
Hauptschule now just for a helper job, e. g. carrying
sand bags on a building site. Today, this is what Real-
schule was, again shifted , and Hauptschule is the direct
way to unemployment after school.



   And how does GErmany stack up compared to the rest of the EU?

Quite bad. The reason is simple:

Basal knowledge isn't taught in schools anymore. After
8 or 10 years, there are still massive deficites in
reading and basic calculating.

Other copuntries in the EU are already recognizing the
development and are investigating about how to improve
the educational system.

The FRG, of course, can't do that. Today's educational
system is the same as of Kaiser's and Hitler's time. So
it CANNOT BE CHANGED. Period.

A good comparison is Japan or China. The first stages
of education are quite frontal. Basic things are
repeated until you can rely on them. Later on, there's
no repeatition anymore. And why? Because it isn't needed.
Pupils and teachers can rely on their presence.

The GDR had the concept of the Kindergarten, which prepared
children for school, equipping them with basic knowledge
and some handcrafting skills.



   And the States. 

I always considered the States to have not a very good
educational system (this is due to how Americans are
precepted here, especially on TV), but it has one advantage
which I consider very modern:

It gives you the right NOT to send your kids to a public
school (where they have to wear weapons and are slapped
into the face by classmates if they don't hand over their
money or mobile phone), 

Re: setlocale command is missing

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:04:44 +0100, Daniel Dvořák dan...@hellteam.net wrote:
 BTW in mc there is not any settings with display bits, there
 is only options menu with display bits. Wrong help dialogs ?

The ini file for MC contains:

.mc/ini:use_8th_bit_as_meta=0
.mc/ini:display_codepage=Other_8_bit

But I didn't find a menu / setting corresponding to the first
setting which I had to change from 1 to 0 manually in order to
use Umlauts in the MC editor.

Therefore, I have set the LC_* variables to en_US.ISO8859-1
or de_DE.ISO8859-1 respectively. Did you include the language
part of the LC setting, as well as the correct charset name?



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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:43:56 +0100, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  Nothing tactile, and because neither Linux nor BSD has an audio
  click, not even that.  Sun does have a command line 
 
 It should. The X window system provides a way to get keyclicks with
 xset(1). The command 'xset c 100' whould generate the loudest click possible.
 
 Whether you hear something depends e.g. on how the X server is started, and
 wether the hardware supports it. On my PC I hear the 'bell' from the PC
 speaker, but no clicks.

Same here, too. Even xset c on (as mentioned in man xset)
doesn't work.

Maybe the AT / USB keyboard is missing a speaker. The Sun
type = 4 keyboards included one. :-)




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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the 
   kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
   create tiny, brief clicks, preferably low, thunky sounds like ye 
   ancient IBM Selectrics.  

Connect an IBM 3270 to your server and you'll have the
keyclicks implemented in hardware. :-)



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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:01:07 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 //* OFFLIST

Sorry, hit the wrong button - I hope it doesn't bother anyone.
If it does, don't read it.

Outdoor concert will start today at 3 p.m., but if it rains
a 3 p.m., we'll already begin at 1 p.m. :-)


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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
   Gary Kline wrote:
   On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
   solution.  The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.  
   I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound 
for
   around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness
   control.  
   
   Hi Gary,
   
   someone posted recently about the play-string language for /dev/speaker, 
   see speaker(4). Could you do something with that?
   
   btw thanks to whoever posted the play-string code for frere jaques - 
   cracked me up :)
  
   Chris

Yeah :)  I play little tunelets on certain battery power events, when 
some IP gets blacklisted by some logtailing script, things like that.

   Wow; the stuff I've never heard about:-)   --I just tried spkrtest
   and have no /dev/speaker.   

# kldload speaker

device speaker isn't in kernel GENERIC.  If it doesn't work immediately, 
try adding speaker_load=YES to /boot/loader.conf .. this assumes that 
your box _has_ a working speaker, eg beeps once while booting?

Some laptops use the sound'card' for speaker, and provide a mixer level.

   The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so.  If getting the
   keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
   that easy, it would have been done after 15 years.  Even Linux
   lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too.  
  
   What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the 
   kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
   create tiny, brief clicks, preferably low, thunky sounds like ye 
   ancient IBM Selectrics.  

You can do quite a lot with various tempos, intervals and frequencies; 
see speaker(4) and play around.  Making a short click or thunk! should 
be easy enough, but spkrtest and echoing playstrings /dev/speaker are 
userland processes; I've no idea how much 'fun' it would be to invoke
/dev/speaker ioctls from the kbd drivers.  But if you're really keen:

% find /sys/ -name speaker* -o -name spkr*

cheers, Ian
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stylesheet not loading..

2009-12-26 Thread Marwan Sultan

Hello people..

 

   Well, maybe this is not the prober list to ask, but as long we all use 
FreeBSD

   and i wonder if someone had this problem :

 

   I'm on FreeBSD 7.2-R P5

   PHP 5.2.11  (most extensions installed)

   apache-2.0.63_3

   MySql4.1

 

   I have noticed stylesheet is not loading within this server..

   i have tried to disable extensions, enable others..

   I added .css in httpd.conf, deinstalled many packages and installed others..

 

   Webages with stylesheets never loads, pages broken and only plain texts..

   no frames no css files loaded.

 

   I have moved the website with css stuff to another FreeBSD 4.8 with apache2

   mysql4-1 and it works just fine.

 

   I have copied the httpd.conf from the working server (4.8-R) to 7.2-R

   still css nothing loads..

 

   anyone has anything similar to this problem with this combination of

   FreeBSD 7.2, php 5.2.11 and apache2 ?

 

   Thank you

-Marwan
  
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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 08:49:14PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:58:26 +, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
 wrote:
  How can I get a beep from c?
  I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
  still not clear.
 
 If you want to use NCURSES / CURSES, it's a bit complicated.
 
 Otherwise, just output %c (the character) 0x07, BEL, which
 generates an audible bell, or beep.
 
 
 *** text/plain attachement has been stripped *** RETRY ***
 
 /* beepflash.c
  * ---
  * cc -Wall -lcurses -o beepflash beepflash.c
  *
  */
 
 #include stdio.h
 #include ncurses.h
 
 int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 {
   initscr();
   cbreak();
   noecho();
   nonl();
   intrflush(stdscr, FALSE);
   keypad(stdscr, TRUE);
   start_color();
 
   printf(beep: %d\n, beep());
   fflush(stdout);
 
   printf(flash: %d\n, flash());
   fflush(stdout);
 
   return 0;
 }

Instead of a beep and a flash I get:

beep: 0./beepflash
   flash: 0
   HAMOR

on the console.

Hamor is a tcsh prompt.

Maybe something is wrong with my installation?
Or maybe I'm too stupid and missed something
obvious?

thank you

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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 02:02:19PM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 18:58 +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  How can I get a beep from c?
  I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
  still not clear.
  Could somebody send me an example.
  I'd be soo grateful.
 
 #include stdio.h
 
 int
 main(int argc, char **argv) {
 printf(%c, 7);
 return(0);
 }

Doesn't seem to do anything. Maybe 
there's something wrong with my sound?
But mp3 player seems to come out ok.
Or maybe I missed something obvious..

thanks a lot
anton

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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 03:33:27PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 08:49:14PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
  On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:58:26 +, Anton Shterenlikht 
  me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
   How can I get a beep from c?
   I looked at curses and syscons.c, but
   still not clear.
  
  If you want to use NCURSES / CURSES, it's a bit complicated.
  
  Otherwise, just output %c (the character) 0x07, BEL, which
  generates an audible bell, or beep.
  
  
  *** text/plain attachement has been stripped *** RETRY ***
  
  /* beepflash.c
   * ---
   * cc -Wall -lcurses -o beepflash beepflash.c
   *
   */
  
  #include stdio.h
  #include ncurses.h
  
  int main(int argc, char *argv[])
  {
  initscr();
  cbreak();
  noecho();
  nonl();
  intrflush(stdscr, FALSE);
  keypad(stdscr, TRUE);
  start_color();
  
  printf(beep: %d\n, beep());
  fflush(stdout);
  
  printf(flash: %d\n, flash());
  fflush(stdout);
  
  return 0;
  }
 
 Instead of a beep and a flash I get:
 
 beep: 0./beepflash
flash: 0
HAMOR

That sounds about right, given the code shown above.
If you'd used just
beep();
refresh();

instead of the printf/fflush, it would clear the screen and beep - if the
terminal description says it can do the beep.

In the ncurses sources, progs/clear.c is a simple program which sets
up the terminal and calls the tputs function - something like what you're
trying to do.

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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:50:06AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
 
 instead of the printf/fflush, it would clear the screen and beep - if the
 terminal description says it can do the beep.

I have 

 echo $TERM
xterm


xterm can do beep, can't it?

But I can't get it to beep on anything.
I probably don't get some basic idea..

many thanks
anton


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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 290, Issue 12

2009-12-26 Thread Manish Jain


Hello,

I am looking a convenient way using C to retrieve the current CPU and 
memory utilization of a process of which I have the pid. Can somebody 
please give me a hint of which system-calls/library-functions to use for 
this ? I don't want to use the system() function or grep for information 
via the /proc filesystem.


I would be grateful if you could also please mention whether the 
suggested method[s] is/are FreeBSD-specific or would be portable to 
other environments like Solaris/Linux ?



Thanks for any help.

Regards  Happy New Year
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   1. setlocale command is missing (Daniel Dvo??k)
   2. Re: clicky driver (Roland Smith)
   3. Package Dependency Issue (Joseph L. Casale)
   4. Re: setlocale command is missing (Rolf G Nielsen)
   5. Fwd: location of discussion of livefs
  (leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net)
   6. Failed port upgrade (Rem P Roberti)
   7. Re: freebsd for children (Ian Smith)
   8. Re: clicky driver (Gary Kline)
   9. Re: clicky driver (Gary Kline)
  10. portaudit php vulnerabilities (Aleksandr Miroslav)
  11. Re: Firefox 3.5 and Epiphany crashing since the GNOME 2.28
  update  (Neil Short)
  12. Re: portaudit php vulnerabilities (Nerius Landys)
  13. ANNOUNCE: 64 bit 8.0-RELEASE-p1 Custom XFCE build available
  (Manolis Kiagias)
  14. Re: freebsd for children (Dh?nin Jean-Jacques)
  15. Punam Chowhan sent you a private message on Feed Share -
  pleaserespond (Punam Chowhan)
  16. Re: location of discussion of lives (Matthew Seaman)
  17. Re: clicky driver (Matthew Seaman)
  18. Re: Wireless USB adapter (Paul B Mahol)
  19. Re: clicky driver  (Nick Barnes)
  20. Re: Upgrade 7.0 to 7.2 installworld failed - SOLVED (Colin)
  21. Re: Firefox 3.5 and Epiphany crashing since the GNOME 2.28
  update (Anh Ky Huynh)
  22. Re: portaudit php vulnerabilities (Jerry)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:04:44 +0100
From: Daniel Dvo??k dan...@hellteam.net
Subject: setlocale command is missing
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: 9ffca7e178c44c10994e4c52ac40e...@tocnet28.jspoj.czf
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8

Hi,
 
I updated a mc port to the last one, version 4.7.0pre4 and wanted to run mc, but mc display a warning message that the selected display charset or source codeset does not match one set via locale. I have never seen this message since I am a user of mc. Propably it is something new in this new version. The version 4.6.2 does not show you this message durring starting application.
 
I wanted to set my locale, but I found out that command setlocale is missing on FreeBSD 7.2.
 
Files in directory /etc:
 
login.conf, login.conf.db, csh.login and profile are set as HANDBOOK recommends for language localization.
 
My shells are bash, tcsh or zsh, csh for root user. The results are the same.
 
bash:

[u...@server ~]$ LC_ALL=ISO-8859-2; export LC_ALL
-bash: varování: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (ISO-8859-2): No 
such file or directory
 
zsh:

server% setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
zsh: command not found: setlocale

tcsh:
  

setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2


setlocale: Command not found.

root csh:
server# setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
setlocale: Command not found.

So my simple question is why is setlocale command missing in FreeBSD 7.2 ? And 
if user could not use locale and setlocale commands like on Linux, how can I 
solve my problem with new version of MC ?
 
The mc message:
 
Confirmation
 
Chosen display charset (Settings-Display bits) or source codeset (in mcedit ctrl-t) does not match one set via locale. Set correct codeset manually or press Fix it to set locale default.
 
Or set 'don' task again' and press Skip
 
[ ] don't ask again
 
[ Fix it ]   [ Skip ]
 
BTW in mc there is not any settings with display bits, there is only options menu with display bits. Wrong help dialogs ?
 
Thank you
 
Daniel
 
 



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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:43:56 +0100
From: Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl
Subject: Re: clicky driver
To: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  


Ssh: Disconnecting: Corrupted MAC on input

2009-12-26 Thread Mark Terribile

Hi,

I am seeing a problem using ssh with a long-running job.  After some time, it 
shuts down, reporting Disconnecting: Corrupted MAC on input.  Sometimes it 
reports a checksum error instead.  Sometimes it runs to completion (which takes 
about two hours).  This is between two 7.2 machines; it also occurs between one 
7.2 machine and a 5.4 machine (which I will convert as soon as I have all my 
stuff running properly on 7.2).

I'm using ssh here because I need to pipe a large data stream from machine to 
machine.  When it works--and it will sometimes work for days on end--it's 
great.  But recently this problem has become the rule rather than the exception.

Any ideas?

Mark Terribile
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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:16:23 +, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:50:06AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
  
  instead of the printf/fflush, it would clear the screen and beep - if the
  terminal description says it can do the beep.

The exanple I posted displays the return code of the functions,
which is of (int) type. Of course, the common way to use them
is to just call beep(); and it should beep if the terminal can
do it.



 I have 
 
  echo $TERM
 xterm
 
 
 xterm can do beep, can't it?

It can. I've just checked from within the xterm terminal
emulator. Are you possibly using Konsole or the Gnome
terminal program, or rxvt? In fact, it shouldn't matter.



 But I can't get it to beep on anything.
 I probably don't get some basic idea..

You're sure that yu haven't turned beeping completely off
with some xset call?

As far as I remember, for simple beeping, the speaker
device (device SPEAKER or speaker_load=YES) isn't
required.

Maybe some wild mixer-settings?




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alerts for stopped daemons

2009-12-26 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Hi all,
 
I was wondering how I can configure  bsd to send an email or sms  when a
daemons stops running-
 
i.e.  perl5.10.0 stops for whatever reason  send alert.
 
 
 
thx
 
 
and happy holidays
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: alerts for stopped daemons

2009-12-26 Thread Bill Moran
Jean-Paul Natola jnat...@familycareintl.org wrote:

 Hi all,
  
 I was wondering how I can configure  bsd to send an email or sms  when a
 daemons stops running-
  
 i.e.  perl5.10.0 stops for whatever reason  send alert.

net-snmp can do this.  So can Nagios and a slew of other monitoring/
reporting packages.

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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 08:08:52PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:16:23 +, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
 wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:50:06AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
   
   instead of the printf/fflush, it would clear the screen and beep - if the
   terminal description says it can do the beep.
 
 The exanple I posted displays the return code of the functions,
 which is of (int) type. Of course, the common way to use them
 is to just call beep(); and it should beep if the terminal can
 do it.
 
 
 
  I have 
  
   echo $TERM
  xterm
  
  
  xterm can do beep, can't it?
 
 It can. I've just checked from within the xterm terminal
 emulator. Are you possibly using Konsole or the Gnome
 terminal program, or rxvt? In fact, it shouldn't matter.

it's on a text terminal, without X

looks like it's sparc issue, I do get beeps with this
code on ia386.

many thanks
anton

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Re: example c program that does beep

2009-12-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 05:16:23PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:50:06AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
  
  instead of the printf/fflush, it would clear the screen and beep - if the
  terminal description says it can do the beep.
 
 I have 
 
  echo $TERM
 xterm
 
 
 xterm can do beep, can't it?

usually.  I broke it (and fixed it) last spring.
There's a workaround by setting a resource value, noted in the change
comment:

http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.log.html#xterm_243

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2009-12-26 Thread Erik Hildrum Saltveit
Hello,

I have a question about a ethernet card is supported or not in freebsd?
32-bit PCI,Realtek RTL8169S

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=120787



Best Regards
Erik Hildrum Saltveit
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Re: (no subject)

2009-12-26 Thread Glen Barber
Hi

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Erik Hildrum Saltveit
erik.hildrum.saltv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a question about a ethernet card is supported or not in freebsd?
 32-bit PCI,Realtek RTL8169S


You should use a more descriptive subject next time.  The re(4) driver
appears to support this device in 7.2 and 8.0.

Regards,

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flash-plugin and epiphany

2009-12-26 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hello, my desktop's memory is so low (256M). Therefore i can not run
firefox. Instead, i'm running epiphany. That's too proper to me. Anyway
is there any way to install flash plugin with epiphany? Currently, my
version is 8.0-RELEASE. Really i want to see YouTube under FreeBSD!

Sincerely,

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Re: flash-plugin and epiphany

2009-12-26 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 06:01:17AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 Hello, my desktop's memory is so low (256M). Therefore i can not run
 firefox. Instead, i'm running epiphany. That's too proper to me. Anyway
 is there any way to install flash plugin with epiphany? Currently, my
 version is 8.0-RELEASE. Really i want to see YouTube under FreeBSD!

Why don't you just use something like dl-youtube, and then use mplayer or
something to view the video?

Oh, and last I checked, RAM is cheap --- why can't you at least get 512?

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Re: RFC: Fam/Python based script for bruteforce blocking

2009-12-26 Thread Brandon Low
On 2009-12-19 (Sat) at 03:38:26 -0900, Mel Flynn wrote:
 Well, my first problem with it is obviously that I now need python, where I 
 don't want python. In fact, my firewalls/gateways only have /bin/sh and 
 /bin/csh as scripting languages. It's one reason I switched from custom 
 sysutils/grok rules to using security/sshguard - it got me rid of perl.

That makes sense -- I'm using it on a general purpose server as opposed
to a dedicated firewall box.

 Secondly, you have matching rules coded in the script. If there would be one 
 reason to prefer this script over sshguard, it would be that I can add attack 
 patterns more easily, in config file with a syntax that's not too obscure.

Interesting thought, I will definitely make the matching rules
configurable and potentially make possible to monitor multiple logfiles
for attack patterns (potentially configurable per-logfile).

 Last but not least, you assume that once an IP is at fault, I want that IP 
 blocked permanently. In practice you end up with an extremely large table 
 that 
 might eventually be too big for a default PF table and recurring scans from 
 the same IP are not that common (you see the IP in a 12-24 hour window, then 
 not again).

You've misread the script.  IPs are expired after a configurable number
of seconds.
 
 Hope this helps.

Thanks kindly for the feedback!

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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 09:36:14AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 
  The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so.  If getting the
  keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
  that easy, it would have been done after 15 years.  Even Linux
  lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too.  
 
 Uh, it was done years ago.  Look at the xset(1) manual page -- there are
 options there to turn on key-click.  They've been there since before the
 millennium as I recall.  Most people find key-click intensely annoying (even
 more so if it's on someone else's machine) so it's turned off by default.



Oh, yeah.  In the late 80's when I joined my Nth startup and worked
with several fellow hackers in a large room, my Sun was the only
one with the click turned on.  It drove my fellow programmers nuts,
but that wasn't much I could do.  If there were a speaker jack on
the 3/80 computers, I would have been willing to wear earphones...


 
 As it's an X windows thing, it should be available on any OS where you can
 run an X server, so any Linux or FreeBSD.  Of course, you will need some 
 sort
 of speaker in the machine to generate the noises, but that can be very
 rudimentary.  If your machine can emit a beep, then it can probably do
 key click too.


It beep--my old Dell, just extremely faint.  My hearing is still
good--it's amazing I'm not out chasing cars.  But I've tried turing
on the key click.   Zero.  This older computer was high end in 2003
but I don't remember seeing a real speaker, so if it's some IC
that's producing the 'beep', I'm outta luck.

...I'm staring at xset.c; maybe the clues are in there.  Nothin in
the README.  

gary

PS: HA: the click percent is set to the SERVER_DEFAULT.  (-1)
well, golly-gee-wilikers... .


 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 
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which IP+gateway for Freebsd guest VM in VMware workstation

2009-12-26 Thread Len Conrad

VMWare has lots of info how to set up the (Windows XP) VMWare Workstation 
networking side, but not much on setting up networking in the guest OS.

I've tried NAT and bridging, no DHCP, and can't ping anything except the 
localhost IPs.   

XP ipconfig shows the fixed IP, plus 2 192.168.c.d IPs from VMnet1 and VMnet8.  

I'm sure this is really simple, but my experimentation has come up with zilch.

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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:14:46PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the 
  kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
  create tiny, brief clicks, preferably low, thunky sounds like ye 
  ancient IBM Selectrics.  
 
 Connect an IBM 3270 to your server and you'll have the
 keyclicks implemented in hardware. :-)
 

[Heart throb.]

about one of those beasts is my limit.  An office full of people
thunk-thunking on those things would have driven me around the
bend.  

... .

gary


 
 
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Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server

2009-12-26 Thread Aflatoon Aflatooni
What configuration do I need to set in my freebsd.submit.mc in order to connect 
to the ISP's SMTP server?
The ISP is blocking all the emails unless it goes through their mail server, so 
I need my FreeBSD box to connect to the ISP's SMTP server for outbound emails.

The client also needs to be authenticated as well.

Please help

Thanks
Afi



  

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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:42:33 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   Oh, yeah.  In the late 80's when I joined my Nth startup and worked
   with several fellow hackers in a large room, my Sun was the only
   one with the click turned on.  It drove my fellow programmers nuts,
   but that wasn't much I could do.  If there were a speaker jack on
   the 3/80 computers, I would have been willing to wear earphones...

On early 386 PCs where there was a real powerful
speaker inside the box, I created a headphone out
by removing the speaker and replacing it by a
3.5mm jack, so I could attach earphones. A program
I wrote could output waveform data through the PC
speaker (in absence of a real sound card), so this
was a kind of do it yourself soundcard. Imagine
the fun of connecting a PA. :-)



 This older computer was high end in 2003
   but I don't remember seeing a real speaker, so if it's some IC
   that's producing the 'beep', I'm outta luck.

In modern PCs, the speaker is often replaced by a kind of
micro-speaker, a black cylindrical object with 0.5mm radius
and a small hole in its top. It's a kind of piezo-speaker,
sufficient for a friendly little Beep! at boot time.

The development of recent PCs, as well as of notebooks and
netbooks, makes me think that there won't be a speaker (a
physical one) in the future anymore. On some systems, e. g.
a Siemens-Fujitsu notebook I own, the speaker's functionality
is given by the sound card and through its speakers, but
the control for the speaker is still the traditional way.
Maybe this way - simply sending 0x07 / BEL, or something
like /dev/speaker implements - won't be possible in the
future... This will force the output of any sounds through
the sound card (or its representation by the chipset
respectively), requiring a specific driver to access the
particular hardware.



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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org 
 wrote:
  at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
  solution.  The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.  
  I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound 
 for
  around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness
  control.  

Hi Gary,

someone posted recently about the play-string language for /dev/speaker, 
see speaker(4). Could you do something with that?

btw thanks to whoever posted the play-string code for frere jaques - 
cracked me up :)
   
Chris
 
 Yeah :)  I play little tunelets on certain battery power events, when 
 some IP gets blacklisted by some logtailing script, things like that.
 
  Wow; the stuff I've never heard about:-)   --I just tried spkrtest
  and have no /dev/speaker.   
 
 # kldload speaker


Thanks!  I just listened to the opening few notes of Star Trek [!]
But very faint and I don't know if the dinky BEL is a chip or a
real speaker.  

Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers?  I miss
the confirmation that vi/vim puts out. 
 
 device speaker isn't in kernel GENERIC.  If it doesn't work immediately, 
 try adding speaker_load=YES to /boot/loader.conf .. this assumes that 
 your box _has_ a working speaker, eg beeps once while booting?


Probably help to be a dog!  --That reminds me of what my parents
generation were saying about mine [with its loud music].  That we'd
all be nerve-deaf by age 55.--  Teh computer does beep as an error
sound.  How adjustable it is other than just beeping, dunno.


 
 Some laptops use the sound'card' for speaker, and provide a mixer level.

Should be a way to send the beep to my desktop speakers, then,
right?  I've got volume and power, treble/bass.


 
  The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so.  If getting the
  keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
  that easy, it would have been done after 15 years.  Even Linux
  lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too.  
   
  What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the 
  kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
  create tiny, brief clicks, preferably low, thunky sounds like ye 
  ancient IBM Selectrics.  
 
 You can do quite a lot with various tempos, intervals and frequencies; 
 see speaker(4) and play around.  Making a short click or thunk! should 
 be easy enough, but spkrtest and echoing playstrings /dev/speaker are 
 userland processes; I've no idea how much 'fun' it would be to invoke
 /dev/speaker ioctls from the kbd drivers.  But if you're really keen:


Def !fun, but not rocket science either.  I'll poke around at this
stuff.
 
 % find /sys/ -name speaker* -o -name spkr*


I've found spkr.c; still there after all these months, :)

thanks again,

gary

PS:  this might be interesting: I just tried to get 

% xset c 50 

and

%  xset on 

on my Ubuntu Thinkpad.  Zip.   At least here I've got the code!

 
 cheers, Ian

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will these (bluetooth) devices work with freeBSD

2009-12-26 Thread Eitan Adler
Can anyone tell me if either of these devices are likely to work with
freeBSD for a bluetooth headset?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833242004cm_re=bluetooth_dongle-_-33-242-004-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833242004cm_re=bluetooth_adapter-_-33-242-004-_-Productf
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Re: Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server

2009-12-26 Thread Lane Holcombe

On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 11:20 -0800, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: 
 What configuration do I need to set in my freebsd.submit.mc in order to 
 connect to the ISP's SMTP server?
 The ISP is blocking all the emails unless it goes through their mail server, 
 so I need my FreeBSD box to connect to the ISP's SMTP server for outbound 
 emails.
 
 The client also needs to be authenticated as well.
 
 Please help
 
 Thanks
 Afi
 
Hey, afi

Check out SMART_HOST in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README

The change doesn't go in freebsd.submit.mc, but in freebsd.mc.  Or
hostname.mc, if you've already tweaked it before

SMART_HOST is the upstream smtp server where all outgoing email is
sent.  

lane


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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:07:34 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
   Thanks!  I just listened to the opening few notes of Star Trek [!]
   But very faint and I don't know if the dinky BEL is a chip or a
   real speaker.  

You can determine it easily: If you plug something into
the sound card in order to mute the built-in speakers,
and you still hear a sound, it's a real speaker besides
the sound card's speakers. If you don't hear anything,
all audio output - sound card AND PC speaker - is done
by the built-in speakers.



   Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers?  I miss
   the confirmation that vi/vim puts out. 

Early sound cards (e. g. the Logitech SoundMan 16) had an
option to copy PC speaker output to the sound card output,
even allowing to set the volume of this channel (treated
like any other channel, e. g. CD, PCM, MIDI).



   Probably help to be a dog!  --That reminds me of what my parents
   generation were saying about mine [with its loud music].  That we'd
   all be nerve-deaf by age 55.--  Teh computer does beep as an error
   sound.  How adjustable it is other than just beeping, dunno.

The kind of beep that is emitted (e. g. via BEL) doesn't
seem to be adjustable. I had different systems, one of
them just gave a clicking sound, where the other one
made a long tone, and a third one made a normal tone.
It seems to be determined by hardware.



   Should be a way to send the beep to my desktop speakers, then,
   right?  I've got volume and power, treble/bass.

If the PC speaker output is realized through the sound
card (and its speakers), it will leave the computer
through those speakers, or through the headphone jack.




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Re: Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server

2009-12-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:50:39 -0600, Lane Holcombe l...@joeandlane.com wrote:
 Check out SMART_HOST in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README

I'm using the SMART_HOST functionality, too. But there's
no authentification (username + password). The relay I'm
using - my ISP's - seems to be happy with a valid IP from
their range.


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chroot SSH users.

2009-12-26 Thread Marwan Sultan

Hello people,

 

 Im on FreeBSD 7.2-R P5

 

 Its easy to chroot ftp users - adding users to /etc/ftpchroot -makes the job 
easy.

 

 How about if I want to chroot the SSH users (not ftp)

 any easy way? no need for jail installation or anything like this..

 

 I saw sshd_config file and it has a chrootdirectory but not sure how to use 
it..

 

 Anyone? any tips? any easy way?

 

 Thank you

 

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Max kernel dump size

2009-12-26 Thread cronfy
Hello everybody.

How can I calculate max kernel dump size? I want to create my swap partition
as small as possible, just to fit kernel dump needs.

Thanks.

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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:18:48PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:01:07 +0100, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
  //* OFFLIST
 
 Sorry, hit the wrong button - I hope it doesn't bother anyone.
 If it does, don't read it.

Ja vohl; I caught it.  'Most everybody know my leanings; just didnt
want to waste that many electrons!

 
 Outdoor concert will start today at 3 p.m., but if it rains
 a 3 p.m., we'll already begin at 1 p.m. :-)
 


Ah, life [tra-la, tra-la] ... .


 
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Re: Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server

2009-12-26 Thread George Davidovich
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:20:27AM -0800, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote:
 What configuration do I need to set in my freebsd.submit.mc in order
 to connect to the ISP's SMTP server?  The ISP is blocking all the
 emails unless it goes through their mail server, so I need my FreeBSD
 box to connect to the ISP's SMTP server for outbound emails.
 
 The client also needs to be authenticated as well.

Fix your word wrap.

Have you checked the Handbook?  If not, start with Section 28.10 SMTP
Authentication.  Read that and follow the link to 

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html

where you'll find the rest of what you need to know.  You're using
sendmail as a client, so be sure to focus on the section entitled Using
sendmail as a client with AUTH.  

Fairly straightforward stuff, but there may be a lot to take in at first
glance.  Post back if you have any questions or need to be walked
through any part of the process.

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Re: Sendmail client configuration to connect to ISP's SMTP server

2009-12-26 Thread Lane Holcombe
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 01:13 +0100, Polytropon wrote: 
 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:50:39 -0600, Lane Holcombe l...@joeandlane.com wrote:
  Check out SMART_HOST in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README
 
 I'm using the SMART_HOST functionality, too. But there's
 no authentification (username + password). The relay I'm
 using - my ISP's - seems to be happy with a valid IP from
 their range.
 
 
See if /usr/ports/mail/sendmail-sasl is what you need

My ISP requires authentication, so I had to install that port and then
add the AuthInfo line in /etc/mail/access

My ISP is only using plain authentication, but sasl will work for more
exotic needs, I understand.

But, of course, if it ain't broke then don't try to fix it :)

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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 03:07:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
  On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org 
  wrote:
 at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
 solution.  The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.  
 I am thinking of the 'PC speaker'; something that would sound 
  for
 around a 25th/second, very low and with at least some loudness
 control.  
 
 Hi Gary,
 
 someone posted recently about the play-string language for 
  /dev/speaker, 
 see speaker(4). Could you do something with that?
 
 btw thanks to whoever posted the play-string code for frere jaques - 
 cracked me up :)

 Chris
  
  Yeah :)  I play little tunelets on certain battery power events, when 
  some IP gets blacklisted by some logtailing script, things like that.
  
 Wow; the stuff I've never heard about:-)   --I just tried spkrtest
 and have no /dev/speaker.   
  
  # kldload speaker
 
 
   Thanks!  I just listened to the opening few notes of Star Trek [!]
   But very faint and I don't know if the dinky BEL is a chip or a
   real speaker.  
 
   Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers?  I miss
   the confirmation that vi/vim puts out. 
  
  device speaker isn't in kernel GENERIC.  If it doesn't work immediately, 
  try adding speaker_load=YES to /boot/loader.conf .. this assumes that 
  your box _has_ a working speaker, eg beeps once while booting?
 

[[ ... ]]

FWIW, I just got things set up on my new dell.  But, like the '03
computer, the beep is too soft to do any good.  Somehow, my Ubuntu
desktop has the vim beep working thru the powered speakers on my
Thinkpad.  But the xset click simply does not work.  Not here on 
my main desktop, not on the laptop.  


 
 
  
  Some laptops use the sound'card' for speaker, and provide a mixer level.
 
   Should be a way to send the beep to my desktop speakers, then,
   right?  I've got volume and power, treble/bass.
 
 
  
 The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so.  If getting the
 keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
 that easy, it would have been done after 15 years.  Even Linux
 lacks this--and I'd bet Minux too.  

 What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the 
 kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
 create tiny, brief clicks, preferably low, thunky sounds like ye 
 ancient IBM Selectrics.  
  
  You can do quite a lot with various tempos, intervals and frequencies; 
  see speaker(4) and play around.  Making a short click or thunk! should 
  be easy enough, but spkrtest and echoing playstrings /dev/speaker are 
  userland processes; I've no idea how much 'fun' it would be to invoke
  /dev/speaker ioctls from the kbd drivers.  But if you're really keen:
 
 
   Def !fun, but not rocket science either.  I'll poke around at this
   stuff.
  
  % find /sys/ -name speaker* -o -name spkr*
 


Another tidbit is that I found my audio code from 1996; it runs
into compiler errors because some of the DSP things have been
moved.  holy bleep, batboy

gary


 
  
  cheers, Ian
 
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Re: (no subject)

2009-12-26 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
Should not be any problem and should show up as rl0

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Erik Hildrum Saltveit 
erik.hildrum.saltv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have a question about a ethernet card is supported or not in freebsd?
 32-bit PCI,Realtek RTL8169S

 http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=120787



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Re: clicky driver

2009-12-26 Thread b. f.
Anybody know how I can redirect the beep to my speakers?  I miss
   the confirmation that vi/vim puts out.

Outside of X, our kbdcontrol(1) offers pitch and duration (but not
volume) control for the console bell via the -b flag.  The volume is
often dependent upon the hardware and/or the bios, and in some cases
cannot be easily changed.

Unfortunately, our keyboard-handling code does not seem to allow the
remapping of individual keys to strings -- I think that can be done in
Linux -- so we can't add a bel to every keypress by defining an
alternative keymap via kbdcontrol, without hacking the code (but since
ed@ is working on a new console driver, this might be a good time to
request features...).  However, at a slightly higher level, many
shells and editors will allow you to rebind keys.  And some will allow
you to redefine the action taken when the bell is sounded:  for
instance, out csh(1) has the nifty beepcmd.  You could customize
this to play a sound file of your own choice through your sound card,
where you presumably have more control over the sound, and then try to
use bindkey to issue bels with keypresses.  Of course, this will only
take effect while you're in that shell or editor, but
you could use the idea to hack the syscons(4) driver to redefine
sc_bell() if a certain sysctl is set...


b.
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Looking for a convenient way in C to retrieve CPU and memory usage of a process

2009-12-26 Thread Manish Jain


Hello,

I am looking for a convenient way using C to retrieve the current CPU 
and memory utilization of a process of which I have the pid. Can 
somebody please give me a hint of which system-calls/library-functions 
to use for this ? I don't want to use the system() function or grep for 
information via the /proc filesystem.


I would be grateful if you could also please mention whether the 
suggested method[s] is/are FreeBSD-specific or would be portable to 
other environments like Solaris/Linux ?



Thanks for any help.

Regards  Happy New Year
Manish Jain
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Package Size Discrepency

2009-12-26 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Why is gcc42 from:
ftp://ftp3.ca.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/gcc42.tbz
~66.6Mbs and has libobjc.so.2 but gcc42 from:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/gcc42.tbz
~18.9 and doesn't have this library?

Thanks,
jlc
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