Re: freebsd list admins?
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 06:52, Robert Simmons wrote: > Who is the admin for freebsd-quesitons and freebsd-security? There seems > to > be a few email addresses that are subscribed to these lists that keep > spamming > it periodically, or in the case of freebsd-security actually don't exist > and > have a broken mailserver that sends a reponse back to the list. The > addresses > don't seem to be changing, so would it not be easy for an admin to remove > > Most, if not all, lists are managed by moderators at freebsd.org -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd list admins?
On 2011-06-21 5:52, Robert Simmons wrote: Who is the admin for freebsd-quesitons and freebsd-security? http://www.freebsd.org/administration.html#t-postmaster Simon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Re: New FreeBSD8.2 server install.
Chris Brennan wrote: > 1) 1x150GB PATA/EIDE drive > 2) 2x80GB Drives (1 SATA, 1 PATA/EIDE) > 3) 1x60GB PATA/EIDE drive > 4) 2x40GB PATA/EIDE drives > > The machine is a P4 Prescott, 2.6Ghz Machine (32-bit CPU) ... First, decide whether you're going to use ZFS. Memory size is one factor: based on what I've seen on the lists, ZFS can be made to work in as little as 512MB with some tuning effort, but you'll find it much easier if you have at least 1GB (and more is better, up to the ~3.5GB limit of a 32-bit machine). I personally would not yet attempt an all-ZFS system -- I have seen too many snafus reported, granted for every report on the lists there are likely a dozen or more installations that have had no problems at all. So, if I were going to use ZFS, I would start by installing the base system on UFS on a gmirror using the two 40GB drives -- one at ad0 for booting and the other on a different cable (and, ideally, a different controller -- with 5 PATA drives you're going to need more than the 2 PATA cables originating on the mainboard anyway). The remaining drives can be given to ZFS; others will be better positioned than I to describe how best to configure that mix. If _not_ using ZFS, you get to figure out combinations of gmirror and gconcat to cover most of the space. Leftover chunks can be used for swap or for expendable stuff like /tmp. (There's little point in mirroring swap if your focus is just to avoid losing data should a drive fail. If you're looking to survive a failure without crashing at all you do need to mirror swap, and likely /tmp also.) Here's one config that would mirror all but 10GB of the total; that 10GB could be used as swap (and also as /tmp via swap-backed mdmfs or tmpfs): partition the 150GB drive into 140GB and 10GB gmirror(140,gconcat(60,80S)) gmirror(80P,gconcat(40a,40b)) Here the 80P would be ad0 for booting, and neither of the 40's should be ad1; better yet if they can be (say) ad4 and ad5 rather than ad2 and ad3 (which may share some chipset logic with ad0 and ad1). AFAIK there's no harm in the two drives of a gconcat being on the same cable. Also the 150 and the 60 should not be on the same cable (and ideally not on the same controller). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
freebsd list admins?
Who is the admin for freebsd-quesitons and freebsd-security? There seems to be a few email addresses that are subscribed to these lists that keep spamming it periodically, or in the case of freebsd-security actually don't exist and have a broken mailserver that sends a reponse back to the list. The addresses don't seem to be changing, so would it not be easy for an admin to remove those addresses from the list? I've tried sending emails to postmas...@freebsd.org about it, but I get no response, so I figure I'm barking up the wrong tree there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Re: Two Networks on one System
On 6/20/11 8:32 PM, Jerome Herman wrote: pass in on nic_a reply-to ($nic_a $gw_a) pass in on nic_b reply-to ($nic_b $gw_b) From what I understand, there are two different ISP providing access to two different interfaces. In this case I am very concerned with all the bizarre things that a reply-to might trigger. What I mean is that nothing guarantees that a distant address will access the box from the same interface every time. Who cares? The interfaces have different addresses so any traffic that belongs together will go to only one interface. It's not like machines out there will alternate packets to two different destination IP addresses. They might alternate "connections," for a very broad definition of "connections," but that shouldn't present a problem. As for the rest, I think you're going waay beyond what the OP described as his problem: Setup two interfaces with different addresses which make use of different gateways as the addresses belong on different networks. Allow traffic to go to one address on one network until DNS glue records are changed and traffic starts going to a second address on a second network. I would suspect that he has stateful firewalls and/or anti-spoofing rules upstream from him that keep him from replying to everything out a single interface. If it weren't for that, I suspect we wouldn't be having this discussion. --Jon Radel j...@radel.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: /etc/rc.d/jail using new-style jail command?
> To the originator of this thread - do give qjail a try - it's very good. I'll definitely give it a look! Thanks for the suggestion/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
On 21/06/2011 00:13, Jon Radel wrote: Can networks A and B talk to each other? I suspect not, otherwise things would be just working even if all traffic went to the primary's gateway, but I just wanted to check that there wasn't something else bad happening. On the assumption that A and B are completely disconnected, then the only solution for this problem that I know of is to do policy-based routing using the source address or interface to make routing decisions, rather than using solely the destination address. This is actually relatively trivial to do using PF. pass in on nic_a reply-to ($nic_a $gw_a) pass in on nic_b reply-to ($nic_b $gw_b) From what I understand, there are two different ISP providing access to two different interfaces. In this case I am very concerned with all the bizarre things that a reply-to might trigger. What I mean is that nothing guarantees that a distant address will access the box from the same interface every time. I do not know what causes connection to be made on either nic_a or nic_b. Three things come to mind : - Multiple DNS resolution for an entry - Different routing rewriting depending on the ISP - An IP block being migrated from ISP A to ISP B with routes being updated while clients are connected So depending on the client route, packets from a given IP address can land on either interface. Actually two clients nated behind the same public address might end up on both interfaces at the same time. Even though your solution should work 99% of the time , it can lead to pretty strange behavior. I am not completely sure of how reply-to works, notably with keep state (and of course OpenBSD manuals on PF are down right now, at least from here). I remember attempting similar setups and having quite a lot of trouble with ICMP (especially RST for that matter). I guess that in order to cover all solutions there would be need to know what is exactly happening. The most important thing would be to know if both IP addresses on the server are public, or if there are private with DMZ/Port routing/NAT etc. If there is only a master DNS on the server, then I guess the worst thing that could happen would be strange timeouts and connection reset. But I there are data to be updated from the outside (DB, slave DNS, logs, mails etc.) things could turn out pretty badly. Actually I think the rules should be following not only the IP, but also the flags and the ports. Keep-state should take care of this once the connection is properly initiated, but during handshake I do not see how to guarantee proper resolution. Jerome Herman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
I guess that is the question. Does if1 and if2 both need to talk to networkA via separate discrete paths? NetA to if1 = if1 to NetA; NetA to if2 = if2 to NetA. If not, it's easy right? Several options. If so, perhaps not so easy - pf or the like. - Original Message - From: Elliot Finley [mailto:efinley.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 06:18 PM To: Jon Radel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Two Networks on one System On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Jon Radel wrote: > > On 6/20/11 6:30 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > >> I was kinda going this route as well - policy based routing type thing, >> but, is there an "easier" way? > > Not that I know of given a constraint of completely disjoint networks. > However, I won't be too terribly surprised if somebody comes up with > something elegant that makes us all go, "Ooo, what a disgustingly neat > hack." If it's two completely disjoint networks, the two networks don't use overlapping IP space and the IP space on at least one of the networks is known, then just use standard routing. put in static routes for the known space and a default route on the other interface for the unknown space. If the two networks are using overlapping space, then the only way to differentiate the packets are which interface they came in... then you'll have to use a PF hack. Elliot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Jon Radel wrote: > > On 6/20/11 6:30 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > >> I was kinda going this route as well - policy based routing type thing, >> but, is there an "easier" way? > > Not that I know of given a constraint of completely disjoint networks. > However, I won't be too terribly surprised if somebody comes up with > something elegant that makes us all go, "Ooo, what a disgustingly neat > hack." If it's two completely disjoint networks, the two networks don't use overlapping IP space and the IP space on at least one of the networks is known, then just use standard routing. put in static routes for the known space and a default route on the other interface for the unknown space. If the two networks are using overlapping space, then the only way to differentiate the packets are which interface they came in... then you'll have to use a PF hack. Elliot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
On 6/20/11 6:30 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: I was kinda going this route as well - policy based routing type thing, but, is there an "easier" way? Not that I know of given a constraint of completely disjoint networks. However, I won't be too terribly surprised if somebody comes up with something elegant that makes us all go, "Ooo, what a disgustingly neat hack." 1.) Temporarily enable ipforwarding - not my favorite 2.) Instead of a second NIC, bind the new IP to the org nic (alias). man ifconfig specifically mentions using alias during ip renumbering: Yes, if you've got a single network and are renumbering it. As I understand it, the OP has 2 networks, which is an entirely different matter. --Jon Radel j...@radel.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: Firefox-4.0.1,1 on 8.1-RELEASE (SOLVED)
> -Original Message-
> From: Warren Block [mailto:wbl...@wonkity.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 3:01 PM
> To: Devin Teske
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Teske, Devin
> Subject: Re: Firefox-4.0.1,1 on 8.1-RELEASE
>
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Devin Teske wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to compile /usr/ports/www/firefox on FreeBSD-8.1, to no
> > avail. I keep running into this error:
> >
> >
> >
> > gmake[4]: Entering directory
> > `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser/html'
> > nsHtml5ElementName.cpp
> > c++ -o nsHtml5ElementName.o -c -I../../dist/stl_wrappers
> > -I../../dist/system_wrappers -include ../../config/gcc_hidden.h
> > -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM -DEXPORT_XPT_API
> > -DEXPORT_XPTC_API -D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET -DIMPL_XREAPI
> > -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES -DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API -
> DOSTYPE=\"FreeBSD8\" -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I. -I.
> > -I../../dist/include -I../../dist/include/nsprpub
> > -I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-
> 2.0/dist/include/nss
> > -I./../../content/base/src -fPIC -I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti
> > -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth
> > -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align
> > -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-variadic-macros -Werror=return-type -O2
> > -pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar
> > -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 -I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT
> > -include ../../mozilla-config.h nsHtml5ElementName.cpp In file
> > included from nsHtml5StreamParser.h:54,
> > from nsHtml5Parser.h:62,
> > from nsHtml5TreeBuilder.h:46,
> > from nsHtml5ElementName.cpp:50:
> > nsHtml5Speculation.h:103:33: warning: no newline at end of file
> > {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> > {standard input}:0: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline
> > inserted {standard input}:164: Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.'
> > c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus)
> > Please submit a full bug report.
> > See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
> > gmake[4]: *** [nsHtml5ElementName.o] Error 1
> > gmake[4]: Leaving directory
> > `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser/html'
> > gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
> > gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser'
> > gmake[2]: *** [libs_tier_platform] Error 2
> > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0'
> > gmake[1]: *** [tier_platform] Error 2
> > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0'
> > gmake: *** [default] Error 2
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anybody else ran into this? Any way around this?
>
> OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS causes huge use of memory and sometimes it runs out of
> swap space:
>
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=24436
That was it!
Build machine (a VM) had only 256MB RAM with 440MB swap.
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RE: Two Networks on one System
On 6/20/11 5:07 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > We are moving a primary name server from network A to > network B on one of our branch campuses. If the secondary > interface was reachable from the world, we can change the whois > information and not worry about the exact second the change goes > in to effect. Can networks A and B talk to each other? I suspect not, otherwise things would be just working even if all traffic went to the primary's gateway, but I just wanted to check that there wasn't something else bad happening. On the assumption that A and B are completely disconnected, then the only solution for this problem that I know of is to do policy-based routing using the source address or interface to make routing decisions, rather than using solely the destination address. This is actually relatively trivial to do using PF. pass in on nic_a reply-to ($nic_a $gw_a) pass in on nic_b reply-to ($nic_b $gw_b) with the various interfaces named appropriately and variables set to match should get you much of the way there. If you're using a slightly older version of PF, where keeping state on connections is not the default, you'll have to add state maintenance options to the lines. If you want packets to local machines to not go to the gateways and do u-turns there, you'll have to add a bit of filtering based on addresses, etc., etc. The explanation for the first line is more or less: For any new "connection" that comes in on NIC A, add an entry to the state table indicating that any reply packets should physically go out NIC A and should be passed to the next hop at adress $gw_a. WARNING: I use PF primarily on OpenBSD so sometimes get caught out on the subtle differences to the FreeBSD version. I was kinda going this route as well - policy based routing type thing, but, is there an "easier" way? 1.) Temporarily enable ipforwarding - not my favorite 2.) Instead of a second NIC, bind the new IP to the org nic (alias). man ifconfig specifically mentions using alias during ip renumbering: " alias Establish an additional network address for this interface. This is sometimes useful when changing network numbers, and one wishes to accept packets addressed to the old interface. If the address is on the same subnet as the first network address for this interface, a non-conflicting netmask must be given. Usually 0x is most appropriate." Once everything is transitioned, you may reconfigure the interface with the "permanent" config. G "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
On 6/20/11 5:07 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: We are moving a primary name server from network A to network B on one of our branch campuses. If the secondary interface was reachable from the world, we can change the whois information and not worry about the exact second the change goes in to effect. Can networks A and B talk to each other? I suspect not, otherwise things would be just working even if all traffic went to the primary's gateway, but I just wanted to check that there wasn't something else bad happening. On the assumption that A and B are completely disconnected, then the only solution for this problem that I know of is to do policy-based routing using the source address or interface to make routing decisions, rather than using solely the destination address. This is actually relatively trivial to do using PF. pass in on nic_a reply-to ($nic_a $gw_a) pass in on nic_b reply-to ($nic_b $gw_b) with the various interfaces named appropriately and variables set to match should get you much of the way there. If you're using a slightly older version of PF, where keeping state on connections is not the default, you'll have to add state maintenance options to the lines. If you want packets to local machines to not go to the gateways and do u-turns there, you'll have to add a bit of filtering based on addresses, etc., etc. The explanation for the first line is more or less: For any new "connection" that comes in on NIC A, add an entry to the state table indicating that any reply packets should physically go out NIC A and should be passed to the next hop at adress $gw_a. WARNING: I use PF primarily on OpenBSD so sometimes get caught out on the subtle differences to the FreeBSD version. --Jon Radel j...@radel.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Firefox-4.0.1,1 on 8.1-RELEASE
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Devin Teske wrote:
I'm trying to compile /usr/ports/www/firefox on FreeBSD-8.1, to no avail. I keep
running into this error:
gmake[4]: Entering directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser/html'
nsHtml5ElementName.cpp
c++ -o nsHtml5ElementName.o -c -I../../dist/stl_wrappers
-I../../dist/system_wrappers -include ../../config/gcc_hidden.h
-DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM -DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API
-D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET -DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES
-DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API -DOSTYPE=\"FreeBSD8\" -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I. -I.
-I../../dist/include -I../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include/nspr
-I/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/dist/include/nss
-I./../../content/base/src -fPIC -I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti
-fno-exceptions -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth
-Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-invalid-offsetof
-Wno-variadic-macros -Werror=return-type -O2 -pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -O2
-fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2
-I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../mozilla-config.h
nsHtml5ElementName.cpp
In file included from nsHtml5StreamParser.h:54,
from nsHtml5Parser.h:62,
from nsHtml5TreeBuilder.h:46,
from nsHtml5ElementName.cpp:50:
nsHtml5Speculation.h:103:33: warning: no newline at end of file
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:0: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
{standard input}:164: Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.'
c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus)
Please submit a full bug report.
See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
gmake[4]: *** [nsHtml5ElementName.o] Error 1
gmake[4]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser/html'
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser'
gmake[2]: *** [libs_tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
Has anybody else ran into this? Any way around this?
OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS causes huge use of memory and sometimes it runs out of
swap space:
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=24436
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Re: (email) server connection problem : Help -- SOLVED
I want to thank everyone who helped me with this. It turned out that due to an administrative error, our hosting company had the ip addresses I was having trouble with routed to the wrong server. Everything is working now. Thanks again, Mark Moellering ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: unable to reach bsd-lists via mail [solved]
Thank you all for your kind help. The problem was apparently, that the HELO message of my postfix server did not match the rDNS. Thanks again, cheers, -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
I would like to say that I got it working, but after looking at the duel-homed host section of the Handbook, I am still stuck. A Google search turned up a thread from a couple of years ago that almost echoed my exact words. We've got a system with network interfaces on two disjointed networks. No routing is desired, but we very much want for both interfaces to be accessible from the world so each interface has to know about its nearest gateway just as the primary interface knows about the default route. What one seems to always be able to do is get the primary up and talking to the world with no real trouble. The secondary is on its network and you can log in from another host on the same subnet but you can never see it from the world, at large. Before the thread died out, the questioner was wondering if it was simply not possible to achieve this functionality. I am wondering the same. We are moving a primary name server from network A to network B on one of our branch campuses. If the secondary interface was reachable from the world, we can change the whois information and not worry about the exact second the change goes in to effect. The DNS should just answer whether the query came from network A or Network B. The routing is already handled so the system in question just has to be there and respond on both networks for a day or so. We don't have a spare box to run on the new network space or I would have done that days ago.;-( Again, thanks for any ideas. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: Firefox 3 and 4 with NFS home directory
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Venturoli > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 1:08 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Firefox 3 and 4 with NFS home directory > > On 06/20/11 21:55, Devin Teske wrote: > > I'm wondering if anyone has been able to test Firefox 4 on NFS $HOME. > > I had problems in the past with Firefox 3, but they are gone. Firefox 4 also works. > > Right now I'm using 8.1, but I don't remember if this was what solved. > > In any case, have you got statd/lockd correctly working? D'oh. I found this executive summary of statd/lockd which explains it pretty well: http://osr507doc.sco.com/en/NetAdminG/nfsC.locking.html I fired up rpc.statd and rpc.lockd on both the client and server, and all was solved. Thanks Andrea! -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Firefox 3 and 4 with NFS home directory
On 06/20/11 21:55, Devin Teske wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has been able to test Firefox 4 on NFS $HOME. I had problems in the past with Firefox 3, but they are gone. Firefox 4 also works. Right now I'm using 8.1, but I don't remember if this was what solved. In any case, have you got statd/lockd correctly working? bye av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Firefox 3 and 4 with NFS home directory
Hi All, I've established already that firefox35 from ports has severe bugs when $HOME is an NFS-share (problem appears to be the "Places" SQL-Lite database in the user's profile within their home directory). A fairly good breakdown of the problem can be read here: http://blogs.cs.umbc.edu/willm1/2009/04/15/firefox-3-over-nfs-still-sucks/ NOTE: The above dissection of the NFS issues was posted April 15, 2009 in relation to Firefox-3.0.x, however remains relevant to Firefox-3.5.x. I'm wondering if anyone has been able to test Firefox 4 on NFS $HOME. The types of issues that we ran into with Firefox 3 on NFS $HOME are: 1. URL Address bar doesn't work (keyboard input entirely ignored) 2. Bookmarks menu doesn't work 3. Going to File->Open causes app to crash I would try this myself, but /usr/ports/www/firefox (firefox-4.0.1,1) doesn't want to compile for me (see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-June/231080.html ). If the above issues that are related to having $HOME be an NFS-mount have been resolved in Firefox 4, then I'll try to work through the compiler issues that I'm getting on FreeBSD-8.1 -- otherwise, if someone can confirm that Firefox 4 is still having issues, we won't waste our time. -- Cheers, Devin Teske -> FUN STUFF <- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version 3.12 GAT/CS/B/CC/E/IT/MC/M/MU/P/S/TW d+(++) s: a- C+++@$ UB$ P@$ L$ E- W+++ N? o? K? w@ O M++$ V- PS+>++ PE@ Y+ PGP-> t(+) 5? X(+) R(-) tv+ b+>++ DI+ D+(++) G++ e> h r+++ z+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Learn about the "Geek Code": http://www.geekcode.com/ -> LEGAL DISCLAIMER <- This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the e-mail sender immediately, and delete the original message without making a copy. -> END TRANSMISSION <- _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: problem report bin/157732
> > 2. You are probably right in checking to make sure that bumping > > up that limit of the hostname length would not result in a buffer > > overflow somewhere downstream. > > You should probably check that inet_addr() and all other relevant > > functions define the variables of the type and length that can > > handle this longer input. > > > > I noticed that some Linux (2.6.26-2-686) I had access to, was > > capable of handling that long host name. So, you might want to pick > > at how it is handled by Linux. (Unless that might create some sort > > of copyright/license issues.) > > Looking over the fence, the Linux traceroute calls getaddr(), which > does check against hostname length and also has a limit of 64. > Calling traceroute with anything longer than 64 chars will result in a > "traceroute: hostname "abcdefghi.abcdefghi.abcdefghi.ab..." is too > long" error. > > Solaris, on the other hand, calls a getaddr() in getaddrinfo > (http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/lib/libsocket/inet/getaddrinfo.c), > which checks against a MAXHOSTNAMELENGTH=256 defined in netdb.h > (http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/lib/libresolv/netdb.h). > Anyway, it performs for the example from the PR. When supplying an > arbitary string longer than 255 chars, traceroute from Solaris > terminates with a memory allocation error as defined in EAI_MEMORY > (also defined in netdb.h). > > TrustedBSD has the same <64 chars limit and is, I gather, not too > dissimilar. > > As an aside, inet_addr() is, i gather, part of POSIX > (http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/inet_addr.html), > so I wonder, why so many do not implement inet_getaddr(), but have > some home-brew called get_addr()? Sorry, I got confused. Using inet_addr() to lookup a hostname is complete rubbish, it's getaddrinfo(). And of course getaddrinfo() is part of POSIX (http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/getaddrinfo.html). Hope I'll not get too confused to make any sense ... -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Firefox-4.0.1,1 on 8.1-RELEASE
Hi All,
I'm trying to compile /usr/ports/www/firefox on FreeBSD-8.1, to no avail. I keep
running into this error:
gmake[4]: Entering directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser/html'
nsHtml5ElementName.cpp
c++ -o nsHtml5ElementName.o -c -I../../dist/stl_wrappers
-I../../dist/system_wrappers -include ../../config/gcc_hidden.h
-DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM -DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API
-D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET -DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES
-DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API -DOSTYPE=\"FreeBSD8\" -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I. -I.
-I../../dist/include -I../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include/nspr
-I/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/dist/include/nss
-I./../../content/base/src -fPIC -I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti
-fno-exceptions -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth
-Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-invalid-offsetof
-Wno-variadic-macros -Werror=return-type -O2 -pipe -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -O2
-fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2
-I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../mozilla-config.h
nsHtml5ElementName.cpp
In file included from nsHtml5StreamParser.h:54,
from nsHtml5Parser.h:62,
from nsHtml5TreeBuilder.h:46,
from nsHtml5ElementName.cpp:50:
nsHtml5Speculation.h:103:33: warning: no newline at end of file
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:0: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
{standard input}:164: Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.'
c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus)
Please submit a full bug report.
See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
gmake[4]: *** [nsHtml5ElementName.o] Error 1
gmake[4]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser/html'
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0/parser'
gmake[2]: *** [libs_tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-2.0'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox.
Has anybody else ran into this? Any way around this?
I thought to myself... "Ok, so let's just disable HTML5" -- no-go, couldn't find
a mozconfig toggle for that.
Any ideas?
/usr/ports/www/firefox35 compiles just fine.
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Re: How to repair networking
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:52:42 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: > Thank you. I followed the rules [I believe]. My steps where > > 1) portmaster -r -PP xorg > 2) portmaster -r -P xorg > > I never got to the next [logical] step because I made a mistake configuring > some > of the builds in step 2. In this case, "make clean" and also remove the options settings, and start with a clean build. Instead of building from source, you can also use # pkg_add -r xorg if the default options fit your needs. Otherwise, go to the port's directory and # make config-recursive # make # make install to perform the process from source. > This broke KDE in a way that I did not deem repairable. I think it's cleaner to start with a rebuild of everything here. > Hence I thought it would be easier just to start again, especially since kde > was > still 3.5. I have never had success in unraveling the interlocking > dependencies > in the some 400 ports that comprise xorg/kde. Some are clearly wrong e.g, a > dependancy on the wrong version of Perl that fails various builds. Most are > [to > me] much more obscure, anyway next I did > > 3) pkg_delete -a > > I still had a working FreeBSD at this point. As expected. The base system should _FULLY_ work without any installed ports. The only exception I know of is the removal of the documentation, which is a package now. > I then did a package add for xorg > forgetting that twm was unbundled since I last built the laptop. Yes, it's a separate package now. > Also I could > not find xdm as a package. The xdm program is also a separate port, if I see this correctly, but as it's not a big one, it should be easy to build that from source of no package is available. But I'm not sure why there should be _no_ package for xdm, so I checked: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.2-release/x11/xdm-1.1.8_2.tbz It's present as a package. > It was after trying to find xdm and configuring > X[org] that networking 'disappeared'. Really very strange. > I was so perplexed I did not think to > reinstall FreeBSD. Yes, that shouldn't be neccessary. > All the 'right stuff' was in /usr/[src|obj] so I might > have gotten by without rebuilding. Check hardware and maybe configuration files. > I was wondering (1) if there were/are kernel and/or OS changes in xorg that > my > steps might have killed and (2) if I should have started top down rather than > bottom up in trying to update the required dependancies? It's hard to say which approach will be better here. Personally, I prefer starting from a _well defined_ point (such as "just the system is present, it's recent, and it's working) and then start to install the neccessary software, either from source or by installing precompiled packages (my preferred method for 99% of the software). The less undefined or unknown things are in the game, the better it is. Everything else introduces guessing or trial & error, which traditionally leads to more confusion. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to connect a projector to a FreeBSD laptop?
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT), Unga wrote: Could somebody please highlight to me how to successfully connect a projector and what configurations needs to be done? You did correctly connect the projector before starting the machine. On most laptops you'll find a "CRT/LCD" key (usually among the PF keys on top) you need to press with the "Fn" key. This will cycle through three modes: LCD only -> LCD and CRT -> CRT only. Press this once or twice, and you should get output on the projector. If that doesn't work, there's also xrandr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: (email) server connection problem : Help
On Jun 20, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Mark Moellering wrote: > 69.41.172.62mail.grissomhigh1981.org > [ ... ] > 69.41.172.180 mail.porthuronhighschool.info > === > > DNS checks out. > I think I am running ssl. I am checking postfix and dovecot. The odd thing > is the ssh. I looked at some old troubleshooting tips and ran netstat -anf > inet and this is what it returned The two IPs above don't have SSH listening. Perhaps you configured these IPs onto the box after SSH was started, in which case it might not accept connections to them? Restarting sshd might be an easy way to check; otherwise verify your list of IPs your NIC considers to be local with ifconfig. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: New FreeBSD8.2 server install.
Em Seg, 2011-06-20 às 13:01 -0400, Chris Brennan escreveu: > I've got a new machine to replace the one that died on me a few weeks > ago and since then, I've collected and cataloged my drives of various > sizes and I am curious if I am able to do something like a poor-mans > LVM, I thought about gmirror but that might be tricky, since I would > have to slice drives up according to the smallest drive I have (current > an unmarked 40GB drive). Is there a way within FreeBSD to concatenate > the drives into a software raid0 array? Hello, I prefer ZFS, it is reliable, fast, and full of features, in a FreeBSD 8.2 AMD64 it rocks... I use to partition the disk using a small ufs partition (4Gb) follow 4Gb swap, and the rest of the disk for ZFS, Once created the zfs , I can mount the zfs as rootfs, and than define whatever I need after, as mirror, partitions, snapshots... and so on the system must have 4G (or more) of memory, and is is really fast.. I am very satisfied with the system (I have installed about 60 already, with this configuration)... Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: (email) server connection problem : Help
On 20-Jun-11 2:00 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:
On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Mark Moellering wrote:
I cannot log into the server via either ssl for email or ssh on the two domains
that are .org and .info
The connection is refused. Here is an example copied from a console;
shell$ ssh -l LoginName mail.anadarkohs60.com
The authenticity of host 'mail.domain_4.com(xx.yy.zzb.174)' can't be
established.
DSA key fingerprint is {snip}
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? no
Host key verification failed.
By telling it no here, you've instructed SSH to treat the host key as invalid;
the connection will be closed.
shell$ ssh -l LoginName mail.domain_3.org
ssh: connect to host mail.domain_3.org port 22: Connection refused
shell$
There's no such domain as mail.domain_3.org in the public DNS.
Presumably you've changed this information; all I can conclude is that
whichever IP address the actual name resolves to isn't running SSH (or it's not
listening on that particular IP, or a firewall is blocking it, etc).
Regards,
I changed it but here are the actual hostnames:
<<< current version
::1 localhost
127.0.0.1 localhost mail.class-creator.net
69.41.171.69mail.class-creator.net mail
69.41.172.100 mail.saline1990.com
69.41.172.249 mail.pioneer86.com
69.41.172.62mail.grissomhigh1981.org
69.41.172.174 mail.anadarkohs60.com
69.41.172.180 mail.porthuronhighschool.info
===
DNS checks out.
I think I am running ssl. I am checking postfix and dovecot. The odd
thing is the ssh. I looked at some old troubleshooting tips and ran
netstat -anf inet and this is what it returned
Active Internet connections (including servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state)
tcp4 0 52 69.41.171.69.2268.40.255.141.54052
ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 69.41.171.69.3306 68.40.255.141.53928
ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 69.41.171.69.3306 68.40.255.141.53927
ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 69.41.171.69.3306 68.40.255.141.53925
ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 *.22 *.*LISTEN
tcp4 0 0 *.587 *.*LISTEN
tcp4 0 0 *.25 *.*LISTEN
tcp4 0 0 *.995 *.*LISTEN
tcp4 0 0 *.110 *.*LISTEN
tcp4 0 0 *.3306 *.*LISTEN
udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.123 *.*
udp4 0 0 69.41.172.180.123 *.*
udp4 0 0 69.41.172.174.123 *.*
udp4 0 0 69.41.172.62.123 *.*
udp4 0 0 69.41.172.249.123 *.*
udp4 0 0 69.41.172.100.123 *.*
udp4 0 0 69.41.171.69.123 *.*
udp4 0 0 *.123 *.*
udp4 0 0 *.514 *.*
Thanks for your help
Mark
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Re: How to repair networking
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:00:13 -0400 (EDT), doug wrote: I was running 8.2 stable and kde3.5. Originally I want to install chrome. I trying to update the many interlocking components I eventually got to the point where I thought I would just start again so I removed all ports. At this point I lost networking, neither DHCP or manually configuring an IP address worked so I put my data on a USB drive and really started over. My question is would rebuilding the world likely have worked? If what else should I have tried before jumping off the deep end? Thanks for any thoughts It should _not_ happen that removing installed ports prevents you from gaining essential networking functionality, such as obtaining data per DHCP. If you have installed the sources (/usr/src subtree), and the required building tools are working, try to rebuild world and install it as described in /usr/src/Makefile's comment section. If your world _matches_ the kernel installed, you can omit that step. In case it does _not_, you'll have to rebuild both world and kernel. Afterwards, you should be able to reinstall all needed ports and then restore the data to the system. Thank you. I followed the rules [I believe]. My steps where 1) portmaster -r -PP xorg 2) portmaster -r -P xorg I never got to the next [logical] step because I made a mistake configuring some of the builds in step 2. This broke KDE in a way that I did not deem repairable. Hence I thought it would be easier just to start again, especially since kde was still 3.5. I have never had success in unraveling the interlocking dependencies in the some 400 ports that comprise xorg/kde. Some are clearly wrong e.g, a dependancy on the wrong version of Perl that fails various builds. Most are [to me] much more obscure, anyway next I did 3) pkg_delete -a I still had a working FreeBSD at this point. I then did a package add for xorg forgetting that twm was unbundled since I last built the laptop. Also I could not find xdm as a package. It was after trying to find xdm and configuring X[org] that networking 'disappeared'. I was so perplexed I did not think to reinstall FreeBSD. All the 'right stuff' was in /usr/[src|obj] so I might have gotten by without rebuilding. I was wondering (1) if there were/are kernel and/or OS changes in xorg that my steps might have killed and (2) if I should have started top down rather than bottom up in trying to update the required dependancies? _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 07:44:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:04:28 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > This means that even LaTeX is usually the wrong choice. > > LaTeX is for typesetting text (articles, books, technical documents, > maybe even letters) - nothing more, nothing less. I would _not_ claim > that it is optimal for log files. :-) I actually use Markdown for articles I write for TechRepublic (and a filter utility I wrote that translates that to HTML), because LaTeX would be an egregious case of massive overkill for that purpose. Even for purposes such as document formatting, it is serious overkill -- including for many cases where one plans to print it out. Yes, it's The Tool for typesetting, but don't mistake "typesetting" as what you do when you just want to print out a document. Resume? Sure. Inter-office memo? Hell no. > > > > Does this programmer get to write a simple script to translate to > > CSV, then import CSV into Excel, when the boss turns his/her back? > > It's not allowed, and on the "Windows" platform (that the scrapped PCs > run via network), there are no scripting means. Furthermore, those > workstations are monitored (due to security considerations), surely > just sampled, not permanently. The easiest way would be the required > output writer on the mainframe that could output OpenOffice XML, and > that could then be even exported into some outdated "Excel" format, if > urgently needed. I can't imagine the rationale offered for doing this crap by hand, unless they're trying to serve some kind of budgetary constraint where a certain number of "man hours" must be spent on a task to justify current budget levels. > > > > An Excel spreadsheet probably would have been easier to use, because > > of the ability to export as CSV. > > No. "Excel" is to make rows and columns where you enter the values > you've just read from your desk calculator. I meant that an Excel spreadsheet would have been easier for *me* to use in the case of needing to insert data into my hierarchical database, because exporting the spreadsheet document as CSV would have been less troublesome for munging the data afterward than exporting a Word document as plain text. > > > > When the form is submitted, it creates a plain text file for me, or > > just adds it to the database automatically. Placing it in a browser > > would make things marginally more effort-intensive for the end user > > than editing a text file directly, but much *much* less > > effort-intensive than creating that four-column format. > > For some settings, I really _dislike_ the use of a web browser as any > interaction is limited to what the browser can actually do. One > example is how the keyboard can be used. Real professionals prefer it > over mouse interaction (as this means a break in the natural work > flow). Oh, for competent users I will make sure to make a plain text file available, of course. This is not a public Webpage I'm contemplating; it's just a way to keep some of the people to whom I would otherwise give a text file from making their lives and my life (both) monumentally more difficult while worshipping Office-suite-hotep. > > Security considerations may also be included when thinking about > migrating some functionality into a web browser. Web form access will be strictly limited. > > You could make an icon for the "Windows" desktop that opens a SSH > session (e. g. using PuTTY) where users can enter the data into a > simple dialog program (e. g. using NCurses Forms), and this program > outputs a CSV data file which then gets incorporated into the database. > Just an idea. Nah. They'd rebel. "This is too hard. It doesn't have any buttons." > > > > I do not have high hopes for Skype in the future. As I think I > > mentioned in an earlier email, I expect Microsoft to "extend" Skype > > in ways intended to break compatibility with non-Microsoft platforms. > > And in the next step, the use of this functionality, integrated into > "Windows", will be a pay-per-use service. I don't know about that. It doesn't really fit the pattern. For the most part, software included with MS Windows serves one of two purposes only: 1. lock people into MS Windows 2. induce people to buy MS Office I don't see how a pay-per-use Skype service would accomplish that. > > > > I also expect that, if Microsoft really support Skype rather than > > just letting it die, it will get some MS Office integration > > "features" added to it that will make it the voice chat equivalent of > > exactly the sort of stupidity we have been discussing. > > Will be funny to see a worker "working" when we open an "Office" > document. Yeah, the privacy issues inherent in such a situation on MS Windows are both hilarious and depressing to contemplate. > > > > Portability is essentially the last thing on the minds of most Linux > > community developers lately, from what I've seen. > > Yes, LATELY...
Re: (email) server connection problem : Help
On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Mark Moellering wrote:
> I cannot log into the server via either ssl for email or ssh on the two
> domains that are .org and .info
> The connection is refused. Here is an example copied from a console;
>
> shell$ ssh -l LoginName mail.anadarkohs60.com
> The authenticity of host 'mail.domain_4.com(xx.yy.zzb.174)' can't be
> established.
> DSA key fingerprint is {snip}
> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? no
> Host key verification failed.
By telling it no here, you've instructed SSH to treat the host key as invalid;
the connection will be closed.
> shell$ ssh -l LoginName mail.domain_3.org
> ssh: connect to host mail.domain_3.org port 22: Connection refused
> shell$
There's no such domain as mail.domain_3.org in the public DNS.
Presumably you've changed this information; all I can conclude is that
whichever IP address the actual name resolves to isn't running SSH (or it's not
listening on that particular IP, or a firewall is blocking it, etc).
Regards,
--
-Chuck
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Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:04:28 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > This email actually mentions Skype and SIP phones toward the end. Much appreviated. :-) > In general, the simplest possible format to achieve what is actually > needed is the best option. True. > This means that even LaTeX is usually the > wrong choice. LaTeX is for typesetting text (articles, books, technical documents, maybe even letters) - nothing more, nothing less. I would _not_ claim that it is optimal for log files. :-) > Does this programmer get to write a simple script to translate to CSV, > then import CSV into Excel, when the boss turns his/her back? It's not allowed, and on the "Windows" platform (that the scrapped PCs run via network), there are no scripting means. Furthermore, those workstations are monitored (due to security considerations), surely just sampled, not permanently. The easiest way would be the required output writer on the mainframe that could output OpenOffice XML, and that could then be even exported into some outdated "Excel" format, if urgently needed. > An Excel spreadsheet probably would have been easier to use, because of > the ability to export as CSV. No. "Excel" is to make rows and columns where you enter the values you've just read from your desk calculator. :-) > In this case, it was an HR professional (though what we were doing was > well outside of that working environment). Then HR _requires_ the use of a PC (as a tool), those who use it should be _able_ to use it. In reality, it is hardly the case. > I think the approach I need to take next time is to create a Web form > that takes inputs for the values and does not allow the user to touch the > key names. That's good. People like the web. Make sure the web page has some images, so it is entertaining, and maybe plays some music so the users feel comfortable. :-) > When the form is submitted, it creates a plain text file for > me, or just adds it to the database automatically. Placing it in a > browser would make things marginally more effort-intensive for the end > user than editing a text file directly, but much *much* less > effort-intensive than creating that four-column format. For some settings, I really _dislike_ the use of a web browser as any interaction is limited to what the browser can actually do. One example is how the keyboard can be used. Real professionals prefer it over mouse interaction (as this means a break in the natural work flow). Security considerations may also be included when thinking about migrating some functionality into a web browser. You could make an icon for the "Windows" desktop that opens a SSH session (e. g. using PuTTY) where users can enter the data into a simple dialog program (e. g. using NCurses Forms), and this program outputs a CSV data file which then gets incorporated into the database. Just an idea. > With luck, it > would never occur to the end-user to copy and paste from the Webpage into > a Microsoft Word document and send that to me. Just expect they send you a "HTML" export file they made with this "Powerpoint". :-) > If the person in my case had decided to make changes in some image > editing software, that at least would have been effective (for some > definition of "effective"). Importing it into a Microsoft Word document, > however, resulted in nothing getting done until someone else came along > and asked "Where's the original document?" It's hard even to understand what "original document" means. I had a customer (real story again) who wanted to send me a fax, but then phoned me to tell me that he can't, as the page always comes out of the fax machine. Meanwhile, I had more than 20 faxes on my system, all the same page. I needed to ask him: "Do you assume that faxing works like a tube in a pneumatic delivery system?" :-) > As for making telephone calls with the help of a computer . . . > > I do not have high hopes for Skype in the future. As I think I mentioned > in an earlier email, I expect Microsoft to "extend" Skype in ways > intended to break compatibility with non-Microsoft platforms. And in the next step, the use of this functionality, integrated into "Windows", will be a pay-per-use service. > I also > expect that, if Microsoft really support Skype rather than just letting > it die, it will get some MS Office integration "features" added to it > that will make it the voice chat equivalent of exactly the sort of > stupidity we have been discussing. Will be funny to see a worker "working" when we open an "Office" document. :-) > An open source equivalent that could be run just as easily from the > command line as from a GUI and is not dependent upon any specific OS > platform's facilities in particular would be great. General use would be possible, just "Skype" users would be on a dead end soon, left alone in a proprietary network where they can't reach anyone else. > SIP phones and > Asterisk PBXes are great for what they are, but
(email) server connection problem : Help
I am Running a mail server (postfix / dovecot) on FreeBSD 8.1
I have 6 different domain names configured with 6 different ip addresses.
I cannot log into the server via either ssl for email or ssh on the two
domains that are .org and .info
The connection is refused. Here is an example copied from a console;
shell$ ssh -l LoginName mail.anadarkohs60.com
The authenticity of host 'mail.domain_4.com(xx.yy.zzb.174)' can't be
established.
DSA key fingerprint is {snip}
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? no
Host key verification failed.
shell$ ssh -l LoginName mail.domain_3.org
ssh: connect to host mail.domain_3.org port 22: Connection refused
shell$
My guess is that it might be sshguard but I see nothing in the logfiles.
I can ping to the TLD, mx records, etc check out. Everything works
except for my .org and .info domain
Any help is greatly appreciated. I hope it is one of those simple
things I missed.
Thanks in advance
Mark Moellering
734.644.4757
Here is my hosts file;
<<< current version
::1 localhost
127.0.0.1 localhost mail.main_domain.net
xx.yy.zza.69mail.main_domain.net mail
xx.yy.zzb.100 mail.domain_1.com
xx.yy.zzb.249 mail.domain_2.com
xx.yy.zzb.62mail.domain_3.org
xx.yy.zzb.174 mail.domain_4.com
xx.yy.zzb.180 mail.domain_5.info
===
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/hosts,v 1.16.34.1.4.1 2010/06/14 02:09:06 kensmith Exp $
#
# Host Database
Here is my pf.conf
#PF Firewall Configuration File
#Definitions
interface="rl0"
table persist file "/etc/attackers"
table persist
scrub in all
#lock all traffic out of the server
block in on $interface
#block ssh and other attacks using sshguard
block in quick on $interface from to any label "ssh attack"
#allow ping, et al
pass in on $interface proto icmp from any to $interface
#allow in ssh , syslogd , ntp, http and https
pass in on $interface proto tcp from any to $interface port 22
pass in on $interface proto udp from any to $interface port 514
pass in on $interface proto udp from any to $interface port 123
#pass in on $interface proto tcp from any to $interface port 80
#pass in on $interface proto tcp from any to $interface port 443
# allow outgoing connections
pass out on $interface proto { tcp, udp, icmp } all keep state
# allow e-mail / smtp (port 25)
pass in on $interface proto tcp from any to $interface port 25
pass in on $interface proto tcp from any to $interface port 110
pass in on $interface proto tcp from any to $interface port 995
pass in on $interface proto tcp from any to $interface port 587
pass in on $interface proto tcp from any to $interface port 465
#Block addresses trying to break in
block drop in on $interface from to any
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Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
This email actually mentions Skype and SIP phones toward the end. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 06:29:03PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:46:24 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > I still managed to do everything I needed to do in under twenty > > minutes, but if the data had been left in the plain text, linewise > > format I had sent to this person, I would have been able to do it all > > in about *two* minutes, including the time spent writing the script > > to grab the data and shove it into my database. > > Text, pure ASCII text, is _the_ standard format for data interchange > (and I'm not paying attention to EBCDIC on IBM here). People start > realizing this when they can't open their documents anymore. That's why > I like LaTeX for example. It's pure text. There is a difference between > the document one is working on (semantic document), and the result > (typographic document). But understanding that difference and its many > advantages requires some brain power. :-) In general, the simplest possible format to achieve what is actually needed is the best option. This means that even LaTeX is usually the wrong choice. > > > > The thing that most bothered me about all this is the fact that it > > must have taken this person twenty minutes *at least* just to create > > that absurd table-columnar format in the first place, and that's > > assuming the person had some way to automatically place the data in > > these tables' cells, rather than having to cut and paste each datum > > individually. > > In a "funny" way, people seem to have time for this. An example I've > seen is a programmer who's job it is to take the data files output by a > mainframe system (plain text with numbers and text, usually > column-oriented) and manually (!) put it into "Excel" tables, arrange > them, and prepare for printing. It would of course be much easier to > write an output processor for the mainframe to deliver LaTeX or even > OpenOffice XML files, and she as a programmer would much prefer to do > this, but no, the "big boss" wants it that way. (Note: She is a > professional mainframe PROGRAMMER who spends her time manually > arranging data - this must be very disappointing.) Does this programmer get to write a simple script to translate to CSV, then import CSV into Excel, when the boss turns his/her back? > > > > So, basically, people are so compromised, so brainwashed, so > > afflicted by office suite Stockholm Syndrome, that they will spend > > between twenty minutes and an hour formatting simple text data in a > > frankly hideous four column format when the end result is that I will > > have to spend another twenty minutes undoing all of that to insert > > the data into a database. > > They also do this with "Excel" tables they use as a worse phonebook. An Excel spreadsheet probably would have been easier to use, because of the ability to export as CSV. > > It doesn't occur to them that there are things other people can do with > computers that they can't, as they understand theirselves often as "IT > professionals", where "professional" means that they - on their own! - > can switch the PC on on their own and use the mouse. In this case, it was an HR professional (though what we were doing was well outside of that working environment). > > The task "leave it in the original format" would be too complicated to > explain, I think. I think the approach I need to take next time is to create a Web form that takes inputs for the values and does not allow the user to touch the key names. When the form is submitted, it creates a plain text file for me, or just adds it to the database automatically. Placing it in a browser would make things marginally more effort-intensive for the end user than editing a text file directly, but much *much* less effort-intensive than creating that four-column format. With luck, it would never occur to the end-user to copy and paste from the Webpage into a Microsoft Word document and send that to me. > > Let me tell you that it can be worse, I've seen that _once_: The > "professional" user imported the scanned document into an image > processing software, and used _that_ to change some text. If the person in my case had decided to make changes in some image editing software, that at least would have been effective (for some definition of "effective"). Importing it into a Microsoft Word document, however, resulted in nothing getting done until someone else came along and asked "Where's the original document?" > > > > Consider the stories of major corporations literally banning use of > > PowerPoint and seeing a significant productivity boost. > > I've not heared about that, but I think it was a good step. It has been a couple years since I started hearing about this stuff. I think the big names doing that kind of thing included Sun. After a couple months, of course, this kind of thing stops being news, so I have no idea who may still be doing stuff l
Re: New FreeBSD8.2 server install.
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:01:18 -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > I've got a new machine to replace the one that died on me a few weeks > ago and since then, I've collected and cataloged my drives of various > sizes and I am curious if I am able to do something like a poor-mans > LVM, I thought about gmirror but that might be tricky, since I would > have to slice drives up according to the smallest drive I have (current > an unmarked 40GB drive). Is there a way within FreeBSD to concatenate > the drives into a software raid0 array? There is ccd - "Concatenated Disk drive"; see "man ccd" for details. Also see the chapters in the Handbook: The Vinum Volume Manager http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-vinum.html RAID http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/raid.html Those might be informative and inspiring. > **EDIT** > I postponed this mail and actually got significant answers from > freenode/##freebsd, more then I antisipated. gconcat is what I was > looking for above and in lieu of that, ZFS, which I would very much like > to utilize, I'm just not sure how to go about it with a hodge-podge > collection of disks: > > 1) 1x150GB PATA/EIDE drive > 2) 2x80GB Drives (1 SATA, 1 PATA/EIDE) > 3) 1x60GB PATA/EIDE drive > 4) 2x40GB PATA/EIDE drives > > The machine is a P4 Prescott, 2.6Ghz Machine (32-bit CPU), like I > mentioned, I just don't know what to do and am looking for some > suggestions. One thing is to use gstripe and gmirror, other is ZFS (but your machine should be _good_ to actually make use of it). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
New FreeBSD8.2 server install.
I've got a new machine to replace the one that died on me a few weeks ago and since then, I've collected and cataloged my drives of various sizes and I am curious if I am able to do something like a poor-mans LVM, I thought about gmirror but that might be tricky, since I would have to slice drives up according to the smallest drive I have (current an unmarked 40GB drive). Is there a way within FreeBSD to concatenate the drives into a software raid0 array? **EDIT** I postponed this mail and actually got significant answers from freenode/##freebsd, more then I antisipated. gconcat is what I was looking for above and in lieu of that, ZFS, which I would very much like to utilize, I'm just not sure how to go about it with a hodge-podge collection of disks: 1) 1x150GB PATA/EIDE drive 2) 2x80GB Drives (1 SATA, 1 PATA/EIDE) 3) 1x60GB PATA/EIDE drive 4) 2x40GB PATA/EIDE drives The machine is a P4 Prescott, 2.6Ghz Machine (32-bit CPU), like I mentioned, I just don't know what to do and am looking for some suggestions. P.S. Currently, this machine is installed w/ the 150GB disk and I am sitting at the Fixit prompt because I may whipe the drive and start over with something else. -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ > GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to connect a projector to a FreeBSD laptop?
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT), Unga wrote: > Hi all > > I have a laptop running FreeBSD 8.1 with X server 1.7.5. > > I need to connect a projector to this laptop to show a presentation. > > After connect the projector to the laptop, I had rebooted the > laptop, the projector's screen just blink only. > > Could somebody please highlight to me how to successfully connect > a projector and what configurations needs to be done? You did correctly connect the projector before starting the machine. On most laptops you'll find a "CRT/LCD" key (usually among the PF keys on top) you need to press with the "Fn" key. This will cycle through three modes: LCD only -> LCD and CRT -> CRT only. Press this once or twice, and you should get output on the projector. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
How to connect a projector to a FreeBSD laptop?
Hi all I have a laptop running FreeBSD 8.1 with X server 1.7.5. I need to connect a projector to this laptop to show a presentation. After connect the projector to the laptop, I had rebooted the laptop, the projector's screen just blink only. Could somebody please highlight to me how to successfully connect a projector and what configurations needs to be done? Many thanks in advance. Unga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How to repair networking
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:00:13 -0400 (EDT), doug wrote: > I was running 8.2 stable and kde3.5. Originally I want to install chrome. I > trying to update the many interlocking components I eventually got to the > point > where I thought I would just start again so I removed all ports. > > At this point I lost networking, neither DHCP or manually configuring an IP > address worked so I put my data on a USB drive and really started over. My > question is would rebuilding the world likely have worked? If what else > should I > have tried before jumping off the deep end? Thanks for any thoughts It should _not_ happen that removing installed ports prevents you from gaining essential networking functionality, such as obtaining data per DHCP. If you have installed the sources (/usr/src subtree), and the required building tools are working, try to rebuild world and install it as described in /usr/src/Makefile's comment section. If your world _matches_ the kernel installed, you can omit that step. In case it does _not_, you'll have to rebuild both world and kernel. Afterwards, you should be able to reinstall all needed ports and then restore the data to the system. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: /etc/rc.d/jail using new-style jail command?
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:41:21AM -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > Daniel Bye wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:16:05PM -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > >>Give the qjail port a try. It has the ability to reference jails by name > >>and create jails without starting them. Though it does not use the > >>new-style jail command. > > > > > >zsh/2 1002 # make install > >===> Installing for qjail-1.0 > >===> Generating temporary packing list > >===> Checking if sysutils/qjail already installed > >install: > >/data/portbuild/usr/ports/sysutils/qjail/work/qjail-1.0/qjail-jail2: No > >such > >/ file or directory > >*** Error code 71 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail. > > > > > >Any progress on getting the port fixed? I really like qjail, and find it > >pretty intuitive, but the port hasn't worked properly since it was added to > >the collection. > > > >Dan > > > > > Dan, > qjail installs fine for me. You have something mis-configured > on your system. > /data/portbuild/ is invalid path which is not part of an normal install. My system is set up just fine, thanks. My ports tree is located on a single server, and shared via NFS. To avoid hitting the rather slow disks in the host machine, each client sets WRKDIRPREFIX so that ports build locally. This is fully supported by the ports system, and should not cause a well-behaved port to break.[1] And indeed, this configuration has been working flawlessly now for well over 6 years, and it is not the source of the problem now. This is what happens when I try to install qjail on the host where the ports tree lives: zsh/3 1001 # make install ===> Installing for qjail-1.0 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if sysutils/qjail already installed install: /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail/work/qjail-1.0/qjail-jail2: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail. zsh/3 1007 # ls /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail/work/qjail-1.0/qjail-jail2 ls: /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail/work/qjail-1.0/qjail-jail2: No such file or directory The file isn't there. Bah! Scratch that. Just ran make distclean && make install and it works. My apologies, Joe, I should have tried that much sooner... I can only assume it happened because I installed the port by hand shortly after you announced its release a few months ago, before it was formally accepted as part of the tree. I guess I forgot to clean up after that manual test install and grab the latest version from the ports. To the originator of this thread - do give qjail a try - it's very good. ~runs away and hides Dan 1 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/porting-wrkdirprefix.html -- Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ pgpla2mVd79lP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:46:24 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:36:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > You can easily deduct what happens when the table of contents changes, > > or when the font size changes. Hell, I've even seen people doing two > > column documents with spaces. SPACEs!!! > > For my purposes, that wouldn't be as bad as the converse, sometimes. I've seen that kind ofother typographic aspect, two column text already,results get really ugly. Just and whenever you have to imagine you would have to change page settings, font insert or delete some words. sizes, attributes or anyVery professional. :-) > I > sent someone a set of two simple text files last week, each line a label > and a value separated by ": ". I asked for the values to be edited to be > correct for the recipient's circumstances (too much to go into to explain > the particulars, so we'll keep it vague). The idea was that, once I got > it back, I would use a simple script to pull the data from the file and > insert it into a hierarchical database, where each file corresponded to a > different subrecord. This CSV approach is very handy for automated processing, I'm using it for various purposes (e. g. technical data gets calculated from CSV to tables and diagram data, rendered by gnuplot, and images, tables and values in text are automatically inserted into the main document; change values -> "recompile" document -> get new values in _all_ places where needed). > Yesterday (after sending my previous email to this thread), I got the > result back. The data had been combined into one MS Word OOXML document > (.docx). Well, that wouldn't be *too* bad, I suppose, because I could > just "save as" plain text if it was in the same format, and use tail and > head to break the data into two files again. Unfortunately, the > mutilation of data was not so simple. It had been shoved into one page > per text file's worth of data, arranged in four tables of one column each > to present a four-column format on the page. Cool, must be the same kind of person who, when asked to send a picture image file, puts it into "Powerpoint", copies that presentation into a "DOC" file, imports that into an "Excel" table and finally compresses it with RAR, while renaming the file extension ".PDF". :-) > I still managed to do everything I needed to do in under twenty minutes, > but if the data had been left in the plain text, linewise format I had > sent to this person, I would have been able to do it all in about *two* > minutes, including the time spent writing the script to grab the data and > shove it into my database. Text, pure ASCII text, is _the_ standard format for data interchange (and I'm not paying attention to EBCDIC on IBM here). People start realizing this when they can't open their documents anymore. That's why I like LaTeX for example. It's pure text. There is a difference between the document one is working on (semantic document), and the result (typographic document). But understanding that difference and its many advantages requires some brain power. :-) > The thing that most bothered me about all this is the fact that it must > have taken this person twenty minutes *at least* just to create that > absurd table-columnar format in the first place, and that's assuming the > person had some way to automatically place the data in these tables' > cells, rather than having to cut and paste each datum individually. In a "funny" way, people seem to have time for this. An example I've seen is a programmer who's job it is to take the data files output by a mainframe system (plain text with numbers and text, usually column-oriented) and manually (!) put it into "Excel" tables, arrange them, and prepare for printing. It would of course be much easier to write an output processor for the mainframe to deliver LaTeX or even OpenOffice XML files, and she as a programmer would much prefer to do this, but no, the "big boss" wants it that way. (Note: She is a professional mainframe PROGRAMMER who spends her time manually arranging data - this must be very disappointing.) > So, > basically, people are so compromised, so brainwashed, so afflicted by > office suite Stockholm Syndrome, that they will spend between twenty > minutes and an hour formatting simple text data in a frankly hideous four > column format when the end result is that I will have to spend another > twenty minutes undoing all of that to insert the data into a database. They also do this with "Excel" tables they use as a worse phonebook. Keep in mind that even with their plentycore processor tenmelonhundred GHz systems, they treat their PCs as worse typewriters, creating the ugliest results, assuming this is the "only" thing that exists. > Yes, this person knew I was going to use a script to put the data into a > database and throw away the file. Somehow, though, it *never* occurs to > such peopl
Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 01:36:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:30:46 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > It's not "prejudice". That assumes I prejudge. My judgment is based > > on years of fighting with the BS features of office suites of all > > descriptions for years, and loathing every minute of it. I don't > > care whether they're open source, closed source, or blue-green algae > > source. > > I think you're fully right, I also made comparable observations during > many years. Allow me to point you to the following document: > > http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/wp.html I started reading it. I intend to finish reading it some time before lunch, though I have other things I need to do for a while first. What I have seen so far seems pretty accurate, though. > > You can easily deduct what happens when the table of contents changes, > or when the font size changes. Hell, I've even seen people doing two > column documents with spaces. SPACEs!!! For my purposes, that wouldn't be as bad as the converse, sometimes. I sent someone a set of two simple text files last week, each line a label and a value separated by ": ". I asked for the values to be edited to be correct for the recipient's circumstances (too much to go into to explain the particulars, so we'll keep it vague). The idea was that, once I got it back, I would use a simple script to pull the data from the file and insert it into a hierarchical database, where each file corresponded to a different subrecord. Yesterday (after sending my previous email to this thread), I got the result back. The data had been combined into one MS Word OOXML document (.docx). Well, that wouldn't be *too* bad, I suppose, because I could just "save as" plain text if it was in the same format, and use tail and head to break the data into two files again. Unfortunately, the mutilation of data was not so simple. It had been shoved into one page per text file's worth of data, arranged in four tables of one column each to present a four-column format on the page. I still managed to do everything I needed to do in under twenty minutes, but if the data had been left in the plain text, linewise format I had sent to this person, I would have been able to do it all in about *two* minutes, including the time spent writing the script to grab the data and shove it into my database. The thing that most bothered me about all this is the fact that it must have taken this person twenty minutes *at least* just to create that absurd table-columnar format in the first place, and that's assuming the person had some way to automatically place the data in these tables' cells, rather than having to cut and paste each datum individually. So, basically, people are so compromised, so brainwashed, so afflicted by office suite Stockholm Syndrome, that they will spend between twenty minutes and an hour formatting simple text data in a frankly hideous four column format when the end result is that I will have to spend another twenty minutes undoing all of that to insert the data into a database. Yes, this person knew I was going to use a script to put the data into a database and throw away the file. Somehow, though, it *never* occurs to such people to just leave well enough alone, save everyone some time, and do the minimum that needs to be done. This is what happens when an office suite "expert" gets his or her hands on a simple data format. If it was some amateur who created columns using spaces, it would have altered the data format I expected and required me to add an extra step to the script I used to bend the data back into a useful shape -- but it would not have appreciably increased the time needed. Things would have been *much* easier to deal with under those circumstances. . . . and, somehow, social convention tells me it would be rude to let this person know (for next time) that everything will be much easier for everyone if the data is just left in its original format. > > > > For all the document merging and management features of these things, > > in the end one is usually better off not using any of them; just cut > > and paste instead. Cut and paste takes less than a minute, but I've > > seen "expert" MS Office users spend half an hour screwing around with > > document merging to do what could as easily have been done with a > > simple cut and paste. > > It can be even worse, when documents get faxed and retyped and > corrected many times. Yes, that really happens, I frequently see this > "professional" stuff in action. Oh, it's even worse than that. My girlfriend had a co-worker not long ago who received a Microsoft Office document that the higher-ups wanted her to edit and enhance somewhat. She spent ten minutes trying to figure out why she was having such a hard time making the needed changes. My girlfriend (has a technical, rather than office administrative, job -- and is thus regarded as a "computer expert" and aske
How to repair networking
I was running 8.2 stable and kde3.5. Originally I want to install chrome. I trying to update the many interlocking components I eventually got to the point where I thought I would just start again so I removed all ports. At this point I lost networking, neither DHCP or manually configuring an IP address worked so I put my data on a USB drive and really started over. My question is would rebuilding the world likely have worked? If what else should I have tried before jumping off the deep end? Thanks for any thoughts Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: /etc/rc.d/jail using new-style jail command?
Daniel Bye wrote: On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:16:05PM -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: Give the qjail port a try. It has the ability to reference jails by name and create jails without starting them. Though it does not use the new-style jail command. zsh/2 1002 # make install ===> Installing for qjail-1.0 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if sysutils/qjail already installed install: /data/portbuild/usr/ports/sysutils/qjail/work/qjail-1.0/qjail-jail2: No such / file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail. Any progress on getting the port fixed? I really like qjail, and find it pretty intuitive, but the port hasn't worked properly since it was added to the collection. Dan Dan, qjail installs fine for me. You have something mis-configured on your system. /data/portbuild/ is invalid path which is not part of an normal install. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
Matthew Seaman writes: > Yes. It's common in the sense that a lot of people think its something > that should work, and get confused when it doesn't prove simple to set up. Thank you. I think I may have stumbled on to what I need to do discussed in the Handbook under the multi-homed host section. We won't be doing any routing between the two networks but I think I have been using the wrong form of the route command as there is an example of something very similar which I will try to see if the second NIC will finally find its router. I appreciate your answer as it clears up a few more questions I had. My thanks also to Gary Gatten >Probably only a single active "default" global ip route, but you can add >network/host routes to prefer a specific interface for said routes. Again thanks to all. I will keep digging. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD paid support
On Mon, June 20, 2011 3:35 am, Dennis Perisa wrote: > Hi guys, > > Are there paid support services available for FreeBSD? If provided by a > 3rd party, can you name or even recommend a few? I haven't tried any, so I can't make recommendations, but the FreeBSD website has a listing: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/commercial.html Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Another PHP5 problem
At 06:49 PM 6/17/2011 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: >Jack L. Stone wrote: > >[snip] >> Oh, forgot that I did have to struggle apache22 still wanted to install db42 instead of my db46 and caused the apache22 build to stop. After a bit of looking, the problem wasn't with the apache22 Makefile but with the apr1 Makefile. Way down it called for "db42+" which I suppose meant at LEAST db42. Instead apache22 saw it as db42 literally. A change in the apr1 Makefile to db46 specifically fixed things. This caused my earlier problems I mentioned, but I didn't yet know why. (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. Stone System Admin Sage-american ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Announcing 5 Free Web Security Guides
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Re: Another PHP5 problem
At 06:49 PM 6/17/2011 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: >Jack L. Stone wrote: > >[snip out a lot] >> >> What did you fellows do about this issue that worked best for you assuming >> y'all had vhosts and similar stuff to worry about? > >Me I just bit the bullet and went with the new locations as they were >installed as defaults. I moved my content to the location. None of my >content cared about the underlying file system path, however there is code >that does. When faced with this most of the time there is some configuration >utility that can be run to make changes, with the actual data you enter >being stored in a database backend. This then becomes a choice of "is it >easier to simply modify the docroot in the .conf files?", if you have this >situation. > > >-Mike > Just a follow-up on my own experience with upgrade to apache22 and its change of path. I was just overthinking it. Simply changing the doc root in the main httpd conf to match my exising one worked beautifully with any concern about moving content around and breaking the system path for scripts and things. By modifying the www/apache22/data back to www/data left everything as was. My production servers are now updated this way. My web serving was only down for a few minutes as I left apache2 running in memory. I simply uploaded copies of all of my tested .conf files from the test server before installing apache22. Also first made the minor changes needed to the main conf and vhost.conf. Killed the apache2 and voila! Thanks for your version of the process, but thought I'd post mine here too just in case there is anyone left on the planet besides me that hasn't already upgraded to apache22. Truly it doesn't pay to get too far behind on upgrades (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. Stone System Admin Sage-american ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
Probably only a single active "default" global ip route, but you can add network/host routes to prefer a specific interface for said routes. - Original Message - From: Martin McCormick [mailto:mar...@x.it.okstate.edu] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 08:37 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Two Networks on one System Following up on a question I wrote Friday June 17, a person from this list kindly referred me to the FreeBSD Handbook and the sections on configuring Ethernet interfaces. It has an excellent example as to how to set the default gateway from the command line. I tried it and it worked. Can a second interface such as fxp1 also be informed about the router on its network while we still keep the default route for fxp0? I hope to remotely ping both fxp0 and fxp1's ip addresses from off site and get an answer from both. So far, fxp0 is visible off of its network and fxp1 is only present on its subnet. It appears that you can only have one default route per system and I need this system to appear on both networks for a day or so while we move from one subnet to another. I presently have FW rules for fxp1 that should totally open everything: 00090 allow ip from any to 192.168.1.250 via fxp1 00091 allow ip from 192.168.1.250 to any via fxp1 Obviously, I am still missing something. Thanks for any explanation as I think this sort of thing is fairly common. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Two Networks on one System
On 20/06/2011 14:37, Martin McCormick wrote: > Following up on a question I wrote Friday June 17, a > person from this list kindly referred me to the FreeBSD > Handbook and the sections on configuring Ethernet interfaces. It > has an excellent example as to how to set the default gateway > from the command line. I tried it and it worked. Can a second > interface such as fxp1 also be informed about the > router on its network while we still keep the default route for fxp0? > > I hope to remotely ping both fxp0 and fxp1's ip > addresses from off site and get an answer from both. > So far, fxp0 is visible off of its network and fxp1 is > only present on its subnet. > > It appears that you can only have one default route per > system and I need this system to appear on both networks for a > day or so while we move from one subnet to another. > > I presently have FW rules for fxp1 that should totally > open everything: > > 00090 allow ip from any to 192.168.1.250 via fxp1 > 00091 allow ip from 192.168.1.250 to any via fxp1 > > Obviously, I am still missing something. > > Thanks for any explanation as I think this sort of thing > is fairly common. Yes. It's common in the sense that a lot of people think its something that should work, and get confused when it doesn't prove simple to set up. In principle, absolutely, you can set up routing to diverse upstream locations and have it all work properly. In practice, unless you are familiar with internet routing protocols *or* both your upstream gateways are actually part of the same organization and they offer 'bonded links' or some such, then you aren't going to make this work. Certainly not as a transitional thing -- even with full blown BGP setups, it still takes several minutes for routes to reorganise themselves in the event of a failure somewhere. While you can't have multiple default routes, you can certainly have more specific routes that go via other gateways. Usually with routing, the choice of route is made by matching against the destination address, but you can use other criteria. The key words are 'policy based routing' -- you'ld actually use a firewall (ipfw or pf) to implement that. [Also, usually some sort of NAT to rewrite the source address of the packets] Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Two Networks on one System
Following up on a question I wrote Friday June 17, a person from this list kindly referred me to the FreeBSD Handbook and the sections on configuring Ethernet interfaces. It has an excellent example as to how to set the default gateway from the command line. I tried it and it worked. Can a second interface such as fxp1 also be informed about the router on its network while we still keep the default route for fxp0? I hope to remotely ping both fxp0 and fxp1's ip addresses from off site and get an answer from both. So far, fxp0 is visible off of its network and fxp1 is only present on its subnet. It appears that you can only have one default route per system and I need this system to appear on both networks for a day or so while we move from one subnet to another. I presently have FW rules for fxp1 that should totally open everything: 00090 allow ip from any to 192.168.1.250 via fxp1 00091 allow ip from 192.168.1.250 to any via fxp1 Obviously, I am still missing something. Thanks for any explanation as I think this sort of thing is fairly common. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how do i fsck my server?
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:31:00 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > right. i booted into single-user and fsck still gave me the NO > WRITE response; then i did a > > # shutdown now to get a # prompt in single-user and got the same > NO WRITE. Only it did fix the errors. dunno... strange. This isn't succicient as whem going MUM -> SUM the file systems will stay mounted. To be sure, _start_ the system in SUM 8select the proper item from the boot menu, or use "boot -s" at the loader prompt). In this mode, only / will be mounted ro, all other partitions won't be mounted and can therefore be checked AND modified. Of course, you can also boot the system from a live system CD and issue the fsck commands from there, using the device names instead of the mountpoints. After successfully repairing the partitions, they will be marked clean. At next system startup, there won't be a long fsck run. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: free sco unix
> I've set freebsd-chat as follow-up Me too. Postings about copyright etc too numerous/ boring/ ignorant/ irrelevant, Too much focus on American law that does not apply to many of us on this international list, eg Bernt H's Sweden, my bases of Britain & Germany, & 190+ other non USA countries. Diversion to next gab about international Bern Convention would be equally bad. People should write less & read more, Try here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works Posting should comply with list remits, else we can report senders for removal from lists. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions freebsd-questions -- User questions http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat freebsd-chat -- Non technical items related to the community Please subscribe & use chat@ Thanks Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:22:48 -0400, Jerry wrote: > Open or closed makes no relative difference to me or the majority of > users as has been demonstrated numerous time with various software > titles. The majority doesn't always have to be quantitative. (Rosa Luxemburg) Average home users avoid learning, reading, thinking. They take whatever comes with the PC. What comes with the PC is a deal between the manufacturer or reseller and MICROS~1. This is a win-win situation for both of them. The user will pay anyway. Sometimes, the user doesn't even pay for things he does _not_ use. An example I recently read is that MICROS~1 profits from any HTC Andoid phone sold, and they got more money from that deal than from selling their own phone stuff. http://www.businessinsider.com/htc-pays-microsoft-5-per-android-phone-2011-5 http://www.asymco.com/2011/05/27/microsoft-has-received-five-times-more-income-from-android-than-from-windows-phone/ You are free to see moral implications, but in the end, it shows again what kind of face this corporation as, although it's hidden behind a shiny package. Finally it's all about making money, the primary objective of a company. It's just by which means you get there. > The bottom line is does it work and what is the learning curve > of the product. I think you have a wrong interpretation of what learning means, especially in IT context, and in regards to end users. They do not learn - at least they claim not to. Their knowledge is of short life. What they learned once (e. g. for one version of "Word") doesn't apply anywhere else (e. g. in the next version of "Word"). Constant relearning of arbitrary things is needed, and because it's not done, they are unable to properly use the products. This causes a loss in productivity, and on other fields of use, a rise of security problems. > It has been demonstrated numerous times that the > majority of end users do not want to invest large amounts of time > trying to get an application configured and up and running. I fully agree with that. They do not want to even use a particular program. They want a RESULT, and they want it NOW. The computer with its programs is just a tool. Now you have to judge that tool. Is it a good one that helps you in productivity? Or is it a bad one that stands in your way, shoots your foot, or makes your data disappear? > With the > exception of the hobbyist, that is virtually always true. The term "investing time" contains "investing". This means, you put something in, you do a struggle to achieve something, and after some time, it pays for you. Because people like car analogies, here's one: You have a bike, it's been cheap. But you need to transport fridges all day long. So you get a waggon, also for quite cheap. Works? Yes. But it's very hard. Now you invest (!) in buying a car, taking driving lessons, pass the driving test. It's quite expensive. And the monthly costs for the car. But in the end, you can transport more fridges, more easily. Your investition payed in the end. But you had to learn. Learn all the funny signs, bars and circles, and blinking lights, the strange rules, left and right, precedence, the knobs and displays, 1-2-3-4-5-R (or P-D-R), the pedals, the levers. Looking, pushing, pulling, turning, all at the same time. Quite complicated at the first time. But with experience, with "learning by doing", you are a good car driver now. You haven't been in the past if you wouldn't have invested time and money. > I am not sure about this ICQ rant. I think one main problem with ICQ is that among their terms of use, there was something like "Everything you write on ICQ belongs to us", but I'm not fully sure. > I never was much for IMs anyway. Well, me too. I've been using Jabber-based services in the past (free), but I think regular e-mail and chat (IRC) took over the IM functionality for me. In relation to average home users (and often also corporeate users), simple e-mail stuff is too complicated for them. They can't quite, can't answer. They print my message and phone me. They can't send attachments, they can't open them. A typical situation, at least in Germany. > I have been in various environment and I been exposed to both Linux and > Microsoft servers. I cannot say with any certainty that BSD servers > were employed however. You don't see the good servers. They run the Internet. Because they run UNIX. :-) > The quality of the server is usually, at least in my own > experience, directly related to the personnel who are responsible for > its configuration and maintenance. Veryy true, I also agree with this. Although there is a lot of potential in how a server OS is preconfigured (secure, insecure), those who operate it make the difference. You can easily conclude what happens if _nobody_ operates and maintains them: Trouble. Let me give you an example from reality: While being travelling, I had my WLAN check running in the hotel where I stayed
Re: FreeBSD paid support
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Dennis Perisa wrote: > Hi guys, > > Are there paid support services available for FreeBSD? If provided by a 3rd > party, can you name or even recommend a few? > > Regards > Dennis_ Please see : http://www.ixsystems.com/bsdsupport Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
Thanks for coming back on-topic. :-) On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:42:51 -0700 (PDT), Bill Tillman wrote: > The main reason is that hackers in this world have > caused all of us to in one way or another deploy firewalls. And I would say > that > 99% of the non-hobbyists out there don't have a clue how to configure their > firewall, indeed many of them don't even know they have one working. Whether > it's M$ built-in firewall or the firewall on their ISP supplied router/modem, > or > the hotel they are staying at is blocking SIP ports. Unless you can get the > person on the other end to receive your phone call then very little works. > Which > is a real shame because as a hobbyist I have done some really neat things > with > SIP phones, Asterisk, not to mention VPN and other packages. But without > another > hobbyist on the other end, its proved more than impossible to get things > working > which I could really use on a daily basis. I think another problem worth mentioning is that ISPs also tend to control what you're doing with your Internet connection. Some of them block using POP/SMTP/IMAP, "encouraging" you to use their service, and some of them will surely also do the same to SIP related activities, as they also provide a phone service you "should" use. And if you're starting to put everything into a secure tunnel (SSH or the like)... well... you must be an evil-doer. :-) See "net neutrality" as a related term. > Oh and just in case...I use Asterisk on FreeBSD-8.2-STABLE as my PBX for my > private home office. I connect via SIP with a VOIP provider who provides not > only phone service but a DID as well. I use SIP phones (actual phones, not > software) to make my SOHO appear to be a professional corporate office with > transfers, conference calls, Music on hold, voice mail, the works. That would be a suggestion I would _always_ give when a PBX is required, and it's really nice for business as you don't have to administrate two nets (computer network, phone network). On the other hand, I'm still searching for a solution to make "PC + phone" workstations built from PCs, and later on, from Thin Clients, so you have both functionalities in one device. This is good for the environment (less power consumption), and it's also good because it needs less administration time. On the other hand, it allows flexibility and easy use. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:03:11 +0200, Jurgen Debo wrote: > Open source software is not related to the comfort to configure or install > software. I traditionally see the "ease of installing" software on "Windows" when users call me to _do_ it. Things are aleays easy if you leave them to others. :-) > It depends how the software is written. In this regards, MICROS~1 didn't do a good job if you recall how complicated and time-consuming (physical presence required) it is to install their products... > If You want to be hacked in no time, trust me, do run Microsoft servers. > And if You are not hacked, it is, You did have luck or You are not running > important websites. And recovery, repair and resurrection is traditionally a job for the high-payed non-MICROS~1 guys. :-) > When people do buy a PC they got > Microsoft software for free. No, they pay for it through OEM contracts. However, they do not pay when ilegally downloading expensive products and installing such pirated versions; it's a common setting here in Germany, even for small and medium businesses. It originates from the misbelief that "nothing else exists", and "you _must_ have it", as well as "software doesn't cost anything because it's not material". > To run programs, it is just fun. But if You would trace all outgoing > connections > from Your workstations to the internet, if You have no concerns about > security, privacy > and so on, then I can understand Your vision. It's a total no-go in relation with industry espionage and product development. > And Russia did recommend recently their citizens to switch to Linux. > Btw from decades, the best hackers were Russians. MICROS~1 is known to be in relation to governments that want to know everything. Funny that they don't have a mass contract with the russian government... > If you want Your company to expose everything to the public, to breach > security and > privacy, yes, run Microsoft software. Again, I've seen that in reality. Very ugly. > If You have insight inside the software of Microsoft, You would see, there > is always > a backdoor which is not closed, which is used to send information to the > internet. > Those backdoors are exploited by hackers to enter into the OS. It's interesting what you can see when you run a packet monitoring program (e. g. Wireshark, ex Ethereal). :-) > Blaming Microsoft. Who does write closed protocols ? Microsoft. Who does > refuse > to deliver properly software which does connect seamless with the Unix > environment ? > Who does refuse to open the DirectX library of games etc. They have no future doing so. The end approaches, and they know it. > Microsoft is a commercial entity and they have no interest in open software. As long as they can't buy it, enclose it, sell it. > At the contrary > they want to create a closed box. This will be the trend of the future I think. Closed boxes, maybe TVs and mobile devices (pads, cellphones, low-power netbooks and so on), while computation takes place on high-power servers. The PC is an experiment (started in the 80s) that's soon reaching its end. A failed experiment, so to say. > FreeBSD can be compiled from Source. You can read all code. > You can't do this with Microsoft OS. This also introduces trouble when things do NOT work. This is the point where you have to do diagnostics. In open source, you can find out such things - you have error messages and sources to check. In proprietary software, you can call the manufacturer, he then claims he doesn't have the problem, and you're screwed. I've just seen that situation with a book-keeping software running on "Windows". Solution? None. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problems compiling 8-STABLE/amd64 system on Intel Core2 4300
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:22:56 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > Oops, I didn't read the question accurately. This might be more > useful: > http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html Oops, and I answered too fast: YYes, that's the kind of list I was searching for. Now it's quite easy to deduct the correect CPUTYPE <- -m <- actual processor name. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:30:46 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > It's not "prejudice". That assumes I prejudge. My judgment is based on > years of fighting with the BS features of office suites of all > descriptions for years, and loathing every minute of it. I don't care > whether they're open source, closed source, or blue-green algae source. I think you're fully right, I also made comparable observations during many years. Allow me to point you to the following document: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/wp.html As an "old man", also allow me to point to history. In the past, german users did use text mode word processors in english language. They were able to learn how to use them, and they produced better- looking results with them (on the printers of that time!) than they do today with their "wonderful" programs. Why? Because they can't handle them. It's no use how much effort programmers and UI designers put into creating a text processing program. People are just too stupid to _properly_ use it. I'm sure you know that there are templates for designing text attributes, just as you use CSS to configure what certain HTML tagged text should look like. Users don't use them. They think: "This is a headline. According to my counting, it is 3.1.2., and it should be *click* bold face and *click* *click* *click* 15 points, ah, and I want another *click-many-times* font for that." You can easily deduct what happens when the table of contents changes, or when the font size changes. Hell, I've even seen people doing two column documents with spaces. SPACEs!!! > Office suites are basically just featuritis sores growing on the faces of > our computer working environments. Feature creep has gotten so out of > control in MS Office that the "ribbon" was invented to deal with the fact > that it had far more features than the interface could reasonably manage. > The "ribbon" is, in fact, basically a very clever, well-designed answer > to a problem that should never have existed in the first place, and as > such the "ribbon" ends up being little more than one more feature in > something that has far too many features in the first place. About the "Ribbon", read (and see) more here: http://toastytech.com/guis/win72.html It's page 2 of the "Windows 7" GUI demonstration, lower part. > People actually open MS Word or OO.o Writer to do nothing but make > simple, unformatted notes to themselves. > Have you people never heard of > a damned text editor? No, because "Word" is everything that exists. This demonstrates the main reason of the presence of MICROS~1 products: Their "education" of users. It begins in school and continues in work environments. They put a lot of money into their advertising programs. Furthermore, today's users can't concentrate on what text _is_, they can just think in terms of what text _looks like_. The new standard HTML 5 will be a real pain for them. :-) > For all the document merging and management features of these things, in > the end one is usually better off not using any of them; just cut and > paste instead. Cut and paste takes less than a minute, but I've seen > "expert" MS Office users spend half an hour screwing around with document > merging to do what could as easily have been done with a simple cut and > paste. It can be even worse, when documents get faxed and retyped and corrected many times. Yes, that really happens, I frequently see this "professional" stuff in action. :-) > For actual content merging, despite all the derogatory noises MS Office > users will typically make about the evils of the command line and how > difficult it is to use, what might take an hour in MS Office can often be > accomplished in roughly equivalent fashion using simpler file formats and > a couple of command line tools like grep and cat in under five minutes. Actual content? WHO creates actual content? Business? Haha! :-) Honestly: I've build a working environment in the past where multi-platform operations are essentially needed, for creation of technical documentation. I had my kids... erm user, users! :-) learning CVS and LaTeX, a bit of GNUplot, and one of them can also write scripts (shell, awk, sed, perl and so on). They now do fully function and produce high quality documents, used for web publication and printing. They were coming from a MICROS~1 environment, and they had never believed me that investing a little time into learning could make them that productive. Productivity. Do I need to say more? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:34:51 -0400, Jerry wrote: > Would you care to elaborate on that statement? Is your prejudice based > on the fact that there is nothing in the open-source community that can > even begin to match the robustness and ease of use of MS Office, [...] Are you refering to the surprising fact of incobpatibilites between different versions, and betweeen same versions of different architectures (32/64 bit)? :-) As it has been mentioned, "next year" problems has never been a field where users could rely on MICROS~1 products. It's traditionally been the users of open source programs that had to do the "magic" to import + export defective "Office" files. And outside MICROS~1 land, their "Office" files are not very much appreciated. > Unlike your appraisal of the situation, I find that users use office > suites, in this case MS Office because it offers the end user what they > want. I've already heared so many users complaining about the "Ribbon" UI and seen them transitioning their infrastructures to more "old-fashioned" interfaces like of OpenOffice. Users had a hard time learning menues (although they would never admit), and now something different? Something that requires you learning and recognizing pictures instead of words? Pictures that dynamically change location and size? Depending on window size and what the cursor is currently pointing on? "No Sir, I don't like it." is a common statement. > Specifically, an all-in-one application that integrates > seamlessly into their home or work environment without the need of > additional software. The egg-laying wool-milk sow, a one size fits all program, has proven in history that it's nothing more than a big pile of problems that claims to be able to do everything, but in the end, fails at simple things. Modularity is the key. Open standards are the future. History teaches exactly that. The fact that home consumers and corporate "big-thinkers" don't want to realize this doesn't make any difference. In the end, they will all pay, on one or another kind. > Microsoft's decision to offer MS Office in several flavors was a wise > investment. The MS Office Home and Student 2010 can be purchased for > $79 from many distributors. I know over a dozen users who have > installed this very suite on their home PCs simple because the > price+value exceeds anything available anywhere else. You can legally download and install OpenOffice for $0.00 and even exchange files with older versions of that program, even with StarOffice. Can you do that with "MS Office"? Surely not. And your files are in a documented and standardized XML format. This means they can be opened in the future, unlike the strange and secret memory-dump formats (that sounds SO wrong) that older "Office" programs did use. Open software usually is of high value that is in NO relation to its price (for the end user, which is zero), simply because it has to be on par with the "big ones", and in many cases, it is _better_ than the "big ones", because its developers don't think in quarterly terms and in how much units they will sell. They don't have to. They have a better motivation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD paid support
Hi guys, Are there paid support services available for FreeBSD? If provided by a 3rd party, can you name or even recommend a few? Regards Dennis___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problems compiling 8-STABLE/amd64 system on Intel Core2 4300
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:32:24 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:15:16 +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > >> I've used "nocona" with my core2 with satisfactory results. > > > > Is there a list that states which CPU should be used with > > (at least) which CPUTYPE setting? > > /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf Yes, that is where I got the initial setting of "core2" from. but it didn't work out of the box. However with the hint of first omitting CPUTYPE, compiling and installing the system, then setting it to "core2" and doing the run again, it worked. Time per compile run was a little bit more than 2 hours, which is acceptable (compared to more than 7 hours for 7-STABE on my current system, less cores, but more GHz). :-) For further system updates per source, there should now be no more problem with using the correct CPUTYPE setting. However, I'll have to check why "Giant" is that bad that I don't get the bktr (Brooktree TV capture card) into the kernel... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pw buggy behaviour
Здравствуйте, Коньков. Вы писали 20 июня 2011 г., 13:28:06: КЕ> Hi КЕ> How this can be? КЕ> # pw user add quagga КЕ> pw: user 'quagga' already exists КЕ> # pw user show quagga КЕ> pw: no such user `quagga' КЕ> #cat /etc/passwd | grep quagga КЕ> quagga:*:101:101::0:0:Quagga КЕ> Daemon:/usr/local/etc/quagga:/sbin/nologin КЕ> #cat /etc/master.passwd | grep quagga КЕ> quagga:*:101:101::0:0:Quagga КЕ> Daemon:/usr/local/etc/quagga:/sbin/nologin КЕ> # pw user show quagga КЕ> pw: no such user `quagga' the command pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd resolves the problem, but why this happen is strange... -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
pw buggy behaviour
Hi How this can be? # pw user add quagga pw: user 'quagga' already exists # pw user show quagga pw: no such user `quagga' #cat /etc/passwd | grep quagga quagga:*:101:101::0:0:Quagga Daemon:/usr/local/etc/quagga:/sbin/nologin #cat /etc/master.passwd | grep quagga quagga:*:101:101::0:0:Quagga Daemon:/usr/local/etc/quagga:/sbin/nologin # pw user show quagga pw: no such user `quagga' -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: (no subject)
Hi Damien
(apologies for top-posting, handicapped mail client).
Actually, "/" (by /tmp) is filling up, and clearing very rapidly due to temp
files being created and removed at high speed. We ca only see this
by doing:
---
#!/usr/bin/perl
while(1){
$timestamp = localtime();
system("echo $timestamp `df -h /tmp` >> /home/traianow/dfstats.txt");
system("echo $timestamp `du -sh /tmp` >> /home/traianow/dfstats.txt");
sleep 1;
}
---
We're seeing this fast-changing disk space usage patterns like this, repeating
every few tens of seconds:
Mon Jun 20 11:41:54 2011 844M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:55 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:55 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:56 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:56 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:57 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:57 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:02 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 141M 769M 15% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:02 2011 3.2M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:03 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 142M 768M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:03 2011 4.8M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:04 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 145M 765M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:04 2011 7.7M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:06 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 148M 762M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:06 2011 10M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:07 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 150M 760M 16% /
What I'm trying to determine is what caused the change in temp file writing
behaviour on the server, and if this is the kind behaviour likely on a heavily
loaded box with cpu running at 100% (which this system is). i.e, do processes
like cvs that write tmp files suddenly start writing more temp files when
starved for cpu, leading to this kind of behaviour?
Thanks,
Traiano
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org]
on behalf of Damien Fleuriot [m...@my.gd]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:01 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: (no subject)
On 6/20/11 10:13 AM, Traiano Welcome wrote:
> Hi List
>
> We have a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0 server running as a general unix shell
> server. Recently the system has been running at high load (average 8, and cpu
> 100%), and even more recently we've started seeing the following types of
> error when we do cvs commits on the system. The system has between 150 to 200
> users on it during the day.
>
> ---
> "/: write failed, filesystem is full"
> Error: /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: No space left on device;
> /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: WARNING: FILE TRUNCATED
> ---
>
> The disks are definitely not full (this shows up in df -hi), both in terms of
> storage space and inode utilisation. However the cpu utilisation is
> permanently at 100%, and we're aware of which processes are causing the
> utilisation. My question is: Is it possible, under some circumstances that
> cpu starvation could result in the type of "filesystem is full" errors we're
> seeing above?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Traiano Welcome
>
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Are you really sure your file system is not full ?
1/ sync
2/ df -h
3/ df -i
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On 6/20/11 10:13 AM, Traiano Welcome wrote: > Hi List > > We have a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0 server running as a general unix shell > server. Recently the system has been running at high load (average 8, and cpu > 100%), and even more recently we've started seeing the following types of > error when we do cvs commits on the system. The system has between 150 to 200 > users on it during the day. > > --- > "/: write failed, filesystem is full" > Error: /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: No space left on device; > /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: WARNING: FILE TRUNCATED > --- > > The disks are definitely not full (this shows up in df -hi), both in terms of > storage space and inode utilisation. However the cpu utilisation is > permanently at 100%, and we're aware of which processes are causing the > utilisation. My question is: Is it possible, under some circumstances that > cpu starvation could result in the type of "filesystem is full" errors we're > seeing above? > > Thanks in Advance, > Traiano Welcome > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Are you really sure your file system is not full ? 1/ sync 2/ df -h 3/ df -i ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: /etc/rc.d/jail using new-style jail command?
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:16:05PM -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > Give the qjail port a try. It has the ability to reference jails by name > and create jails without starting them. Though it does not use the > new-style jail command. zsh/2 1002 # make install ===> Installing for qjail-1.0 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if sysutils/qjail already installed install: /data/portbuild/usr/ports/sysutils/qjail/work/qjail-1.0/qjail-jail2: No such / file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail. Any progress on getting the port fixed? I really like qjail, and find it pretty intuitive, but the port hasn't worked properly since it was added to the collection. Dan -- Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ pgpmwu9g0nQln.pgp Description: PGP signature
mixing local and remote package repositories
No answer on ports@, maybe someone here knows. Suppose I start to install some packages using "pkg_add -K -r" and something goes wrong partway through. When trying again, AFAICT there is no way to tell pkg_add to first look for any package that it needs (e.g. dependencies) in the local repository created by the previous run's -K switch, but fall back to the remote repository for any not found locally. It's not immediately obvious how to accomplish such a retry with portmaster either, since -PP --local-packagedir= would want the local repository to be formatted in the same way as the remote ones -- and it doesn't look as if "pkg_add -K -r" does that. Is there a simple way to create the /Latest and category symlinks that portmaster needs, given only a collection of packages in the /All directory? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hi List We have a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0 server running as a general unix shell server. Recently the system has been running at high load (average 8, and cpu 100%), and even more recently we've started seeing the following types of error when we do cvs commits on the system. The system has between 150 to 200 users on it during the day. --- "/: write failed, filesystem is full" Error: /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: No space left on device; /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: WARNING: FILE TRUNCATED --- The disks are definitely not full (this shows up in df -hi), both in terms of storage space and inode utilisation. However the cpu utilisation is permanently at 100%, and we're aware of which processes are causing the utilisation. My question is: Is it possible, under some circumstances that cpu starvation could result in the type of "filesystem is full" errors we're seeing above? Thanks in Advance, Traiano Welcome ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
