Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:55:26PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated: If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others (even in the linux community) over the past _five_ (thats 5) years. I am not sure what parouse means. There are a Shane, Dawn and Nicole Parouse. Are you referring to them? Perhaps you meant peruse. I think you had no doubt at all that Da Rock meant peruse here, and you should check whether the walls of your house are made of durable material before you start throwing stones. Check, for instance, you habitual inability to properly use apostrophes to indicate the possessive . . . and, of course, I have a typo right there in the sentence following my admonition against throwing stones while living in a glass house. It's a common problem. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildworld error 8.2-STABLE amd64
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:18:53 +0100 Marco Steinbach c...@executive-computing.de wrote: Janos Dohanics wrote on 31.12.2011 19:56: Buildworld stopped with this error (with updated source): [...] cc -O3 -DNEED_SOLARIS_BOOLEAN [...] I have posted the build log at http://wwwp.3dresearch.com/ALMAVIVA2011123101_buildworld Would you please advise? Quoting /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf: # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code. # Note that optimization settings other than -O and -O2 are not # recommended or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - # please revert any nonstandard optimization settings to -O or -O2 # -fno-strict-aliasing before submitting bug reports without patches # to the developers. The error you're seeing is a result from using O3 for building the source in question -- At least my 8.2-STABLE ran into the same problem, once I used O3, instead of the default '-O2 -pipe'. MfG CoCo Thank you, there was indeed the line CFLAGS=-O3 in make.conf, after I have commented it out, I could build world. I'm wondering how was my make.conf changed though; I'm sure I did not add CFLAGS=-O3 - is it possible that one of the ports have added this? -- Janos Dohanics ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SOLVED - Re: KERNEL - knowing what programs use/need modules
On 1/1/12 9:10 AM, Matt Mullins wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: Now, I'm wondering why in the world a server would need umass, ums and cam ? My understanding is that ums is the USB mouse, which we're never going to need. Umass would be USB mass storage, which again we're never going to need. You appear to be correct with these two. My gut tells me these types of things would be loaded when the corresponding devices are plugged into the system, but if that's wrong, surely someone here will speak up. Regarding CAM I have absolutely no idea why the module is loaded either. That's the SCSI/ATA subsystem; if this is the only of your firewalls to have this module, perhaps it has different disk adapter hardware than the others or another sysadmin decided to load it manually? They use mfi, like a few others which do not have CAM loaded. The best part is, after rebooting these firewalls on their new 8.2-RELEASE-p5 kernel, they haven't loaded neither of UMS, UMASS, or CAM, although I've clearly built them: MODULES_OVERRIDE=cam geom/geom_label if_lagg linprocfs linsysfs linux mfi/mfi_linux usb/umass usb/ums I doubt another admin would have loaded them manually, they don't touch the freebsd stuff very often ;) Ah well, I guess I'll just leave it at that. For anyone reading this thread, Matt's suggestion of using lsof to find what files/binaries could be using the devices seems to be the best one. Ty for the input Matt. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
nss_ldap and the linuxulator
I've just run into this snag again which I've resolved back in 7.x/8.1: the linuxulator cannot handle nss lookups from ldap. I ran a search for nss_ldap fedora 10 and simply extracted from the rpm the libnss_ldap*.so* in the usr/lib into the corresponding directory under /compat/linux. One then only has to copy or setup the ldap.conf in /compat/linux/etc/ and change /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf so the it will check files and ldap as in the base. It works a charm when you have issues like the missus with acroread and others not working inexplicably. Run acroread from the command line will give you the clue: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id. This solution does fix this categorically. I hope this helps others, but I do have one question: why isn't this included in the ports already? I still haven't yet figured out cups and printer selection yet, but I have made some progress... :) Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildworld error 8.2-STABLE amd64
Janos Dohanics wrote on 02.01.2012 11:04: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:18:53 +0100 Marco Steinbach c...@executive-computing.de wrote: Janos Dohanics wrote on 31.12.2011 19:56: Buildworld stopped with this error (with updated source): [...] cc -O3 -DNEED_SOLARIS_BOOLEAN [...] I have posted the build log at http://wwwp.3dresearch.com/ALMAVIVA2011123101_buildworld Would you please advise? Quoting /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf: # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code. # Note that optimization settings other than -O and -O2 are not # recommended or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - # please revert any nonstandard optimization settings to -O or -O2 # -fno-strict-aliasing before submitting bug reports without patches # to the developers. The error you're seeing is a result from using O3 for building the source in question -- At least my 8.2-STABLE ran into the same problem, once I used O3, instead of the default '-O2 -pipe'. MfG CoCo Thank you, there was indeed the line CFLAGS=-O3 in make.conf, after I have commented it out, I could build world. I'm wondering how was my make.conf changed though; I'm sure I did not add CFLAGS=-O3 - is it possible that one of the ports have added this? Although, as far as I can tell, not explicitly forbidden in the porter's handbook, I think that to be highly unlikely in the case of CFLAGS. The least I'd expect would be some kind notice, if so intrusive a change is done deliberately. If I'd suspect a port fiddling with /etc/make.conf, I'd probably go looking for entries carrying a timestamp close to /etc/make.confs in /var/db/pkg. Of course, this largely depends on what happened in between the time of actual modification and me noticing, but I think that's the first thing I'd do. MfG CoCo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DNS
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 04:26:38PM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: You have to have your nameserver listed with internic (for .com and .net - ie, your nameserver has to show up in the NAMESERVER whois (note: different than DOMAIN whois) on http://www.internic.net/whois.html) and also for each This is exactly the point I missed. At that opportunity I searched in all places except in the right one. Waitman I am very grateful. Walter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and
others (even in the linux community) over the past _five_ (thats
5) years.
I am not sure what parouse means. There are a Shane, Dawn and
Nicole Parouse. Are you referring to them? Perhaps you meant
peruse.
I think you had no doubt at all that Da Rock meant peruse here,
and you should check whether the walls of your house are made of
durable material before you start throwing stones. Check, for
instance, you habitual inability to properly use apostrophes to
indicate the possessive form of a word, or your error in using the
plural form phenomena where the singular phenomenon is
appropriate. These observations of your relative illiteracy come
from a single paragraph, by the way, but until I saw your play dumb
to call someone dumb approach to discussion, I felt it appropriate
to point out your own failings along the same lines -- not because
these specific failings invalidate anything else you say, but because
you're kind of a mean-spirited little hypocrite.
I specifically asked Da Rock in regards to parouse since I am not
familiar with what country he is from or what he considers his native
language. It is very possible that the word he used is native to his
region and therefore I wanted to inquire further.
Furthermore, before you make a complete ass of yourself, please check
out this URL: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phenomena
In short, trying to paint people who disagree with you in the colors
of stupidity for a single spelling error when your errors are fairly
numerous is not a winning strategy.
Win what, I was not aware it was a game. Maybe that is the problem; you
are too busy playing games rather than actually completing bona fide
projects.
I tend not to include Ubuntu since they have made huge strides in
making hardware work correctly under their environment. Seems
strange that they can achieve what FreeBSD considers either
unobtainable or unnecessary (sour grapes).
{OK, let the blame game begin -- after all, it is ALWAYS someone
elses fault}
That must be why you blame everything you perceive as a problem in
regards to open source software on sour grapes.
I'm sorry but I'm really pissed off tonight and you're attitude is
really rubbing me the wrong way. If you want to be best mates with
Gates and his horde then by all means... but this is a genuine
discussion in an attempt to resolve _these_ issues, and clarify
points as to why things are a certain way. If you don't agree,
then be silent and ignore what you perceive to be crap, or at the
very least _try_ not to be so aggressive and offensive. A lot of
us on this list do this as common courtesy.
Ah, there we are. That good old socialist/fascist call to arms,
You're either with us, or against us.
I think the statement was more like Someone who calls it 'open sore'
is clearly a mean-spirited jackass who likes making trouble, rather
than Down with the bourgeoisie! I just figured I'd help clarify.
Now you have really peaked my interest. On any given day, on a Windows
based forum, the terms: FreePiss, open-sore, Lsuck etcetera are
freely thrown around. On Linux based forums, terms like: Winblows,
Microsucks, etcetera are freely used. Would you please be so kind as
to explain to me why it is morally correct to use one set of terms but
not the other? It is either right or it is wrong. You cannot be
slightly pregnant. I personally find such terms morally repugnant;
however, since they are commonly used on this forum it appears that they
are socially acceptable. Would you not concur or are you going to try
and bullshit your way out of this one?
You so clearly define what is the basic problem with FreeBSD in
general. The sour grapes attitude is so clearly self evident. You
would rather spend your time defending something that doesn't work
as fully functional as it could be if the developers stopped patting
themselves on the back for accomplishing what other OSs had already
done 3 or more years earlier and rather attempted to bring the OS on
par with those competing OSs.
What do you define with your hanging around sniping at people and
sabotaging discussions attitude? In the years I have been on this
list, it seems like you have demonstrated a rabid hatred of all
things related to FreeBSD and most things related to open source
software in general, which makes me wonder why you hang around this
mailing list.
I have a morbid hatred of those who suffer from decidophobia. However,
after restudying the matter, I think it more likely that the real
problem is an irrational fear of success. If only Microsoft was able to
accomplish things like easily getting a printer fully functional under
its
Re: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
Ladies and gentleman, I will be unplugged from my email until the 17th of January. In the mean time here's a video of a bunny opening your mail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyaRmTwdKs Your mail will not be forwarded and I will contact you when I come back, alternatively you can contact one of the other administrators or email i...@astalavista.com Merry christmas and a happy new year! Best regards, Sykadul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mailing list and personal assaults
I as a normal sys admin like to read the mailing lists, because it learned me a lot, and it still does. But lately it looks like more and more people get personal! The word ass, has passed this year even more then i used my own. Maybe it is the time we live in, but please ! If you are not agree with someone's statement or thoughts, ignore it or write your thoughts and be done with it. regards Johan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
acpi problem on dell latitude d830
Hello, I'm still investigating the problem with my dell latitude d830 notebook. ACPI states S3 and S4 don't work... Here comes dmesg: xueyu@monopohl:~% dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #2: Wed Dec 14 03:15:04 CET 2011 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONOPOHL i386 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz (1994.44-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6fd Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 13 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 2147483648 (2048 MB) avail memory = 2081214464 (1984 MB) ACPI APIC Table: DELL M08 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: DELL M08 on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] Timecounter HPET frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 acpi0: reservation of 0, 9f000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 10, 7f55b800 (3) failed Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xefe8-0xefef mem 0xfea0-0xfeaf,0xe000-0xefff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: Intel GM965 SVGA controller on vgapci0 agp0: aperture size is 256M, detected 7676k stolen memory vgapci1: VGA-compatible display mem 0xfeb0-0xfebf at device 2.1 on pci0 uhci0: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-D port 0x6f20-0x6f3f irq 20 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [ITHREAD] usbus0: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-D on uhci0 uhci1: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-E port 0x6f00-0x6f1f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [ITHREAD] usbus1: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-E on uhci1 ehci0: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB 2.0 controller USB2-B mem 0xfed1c400-0xfed1c7ff irq 22 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 usbus2: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB 2.0 controller USB2-B on ehci0 hdac0: Intel 82801H High Definition Audio Controller mem 0xfe9fc000-0xfe9f irq 21 at device 27.0 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20100226_0142 hdac0: [ITHREAD] pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 28.0 on pci0 pci11: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 28.1 on pci0 pci12: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 wpi0: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG mem 0xfe8ff000-0xfe8f irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci12 wpi0: [ITHREAD] pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 28.3 on pci0 pci13: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3 pcib4: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 28.5 on pci0 pci9: ACPI PCI bus on pcib4 bge0: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Controller, ASIC rev. 0x00a002 mem 0xfe5f-0xfe5f irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci9 bge0: CHIP ID 0xa002; ASIC REV 0x0a; CHIP REV 0xa0; PCI-E miibus0: MII bus on bge0 brgphy0: BCM5755 10/100/1000baseTX PHY PHY 1 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow bge0: [FILTER] uhci2: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-A port 0x6f80-0x6f9f irq 20 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci2: [ITHREAD] usbus3: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-A on uhci2 uhci3: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-B port 0x6f60-0x6f7f irq 21 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci3: [ITHREAD] usbus4: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-B on uhci3 uhci4: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-C port 0x6f40-0x6f5f irq 22 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci4: [ITHREAD] usbus5: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB controller USB-C on uhci4 ehci1: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB 2.0 controller USB2-A mem 0xfed1c000-0xfed1c3ff irq 20 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [ITHREAD] usbus6: EHCI version 1.0 usbus6: Intel 82801H (ICH8) USB 2.0 controller USB2-A on ehci1 pcib5: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib5 cbb0: PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 1.0 on pci3 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0 cbb0: [FILTER] fwohci0: 1394 Open Host Controller Interface mem 0xfe4ff000-0xfe4f,0xfe4fe800-0xfe4fefff irq 19 at device 1.4 on pci3 fwohci0: [ITHREAD] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8. fwohci0: EUI64 35:4f:c0:00:0b:25:ec:70 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On 01/02/12 23:31, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and
others (even in the linux community) over the past _five_ (thats
5) years.
I am not sure what parouse means. There are a Shane, Dawn and
Nicole Parouse. Are you referring to them? Perhaps you meant
peruse.
I think you had no doubt at all that Da Rock meant peruse here,
and you should check whether the walls of your house are made of
durable material before you start throwing stones. Check, for
instance, you habitual inability to properly use apostrophes to
indicate the possessive form of a word, or your error in using the
plural form phenomena where the singular phenomenon is
appropriate. These observations of your relative illiteracy come
from a single paragraph, by the way, but until I saw your play dumb
to call someone dumb approach to discussion, I felt it appropriate
to point out your own failings along the same lines -- not because
these specific failings invalidate anything else you say, but because
you're kind of a mean-spirited little hypocrite.
I specifically asked Da Rock in regards to parouse since I am not
familiar with what country he is from or what he considers his native
language. It is very possible that the word he used is native to his
region and therefore I wanted to inquire further.
Furthermore, before you make a complete ass of yourself, please check
out this URL:http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phenomena
In short, trying to paint people who disagree with you in the colors
of stupidity for a single spelling error when your errors are fairly
numerous is not a winning strategy.
Win what, I was not aware it was a game. Maybe that is the problem; you
are too busy playing games rather than actually completing bona fide
projects.
I tend not to include Ubuntu since they have made huge strides in
making hardware work correctly under their environment. Seems
strange that they can achieve what FreeBSD considers either
unobtainable or unnecessary (sour grapes).
{OK, let the blame game begin -- after all, it is ALWAYS someone
elses fault}
That must be why you blame everything you perceive as a problem in
regards to open source software on sour grapes.
I'm sorry but I'm really pissed off tonight and you're attitude is
really rubbing me the wrong way. If you want to be best mates with
Gates and his horde then by all means... but this is a genuine
discussion in an attempt to resolve _these_ issues, and clarify
points as to why things are a certain way. If you don't agree,
then be silent and ignore what you perceive to be crap, or at the
very least _try_ not to be so aggressive and offensive. A lot of
us on this list do this as common courtesy.
Ah, there we are. That good old socialist/fascist call to arms,
You're either with us, or against us.
I think the statement was more like Someone who calls it 'open sore'
is clearly a mean-spirited jackass who likes making trouble, rather
than Down with the bourgeoisie! I just figured I'd help clarify.
Now you have really peaked my interest. On any given day, on a Windows
based forum, the terms: FreePiss, open-sore, Lsuck etcetera are
freely thrown around. On Linux based forums, terms like: Winblows,
Microsucks, etcetera are freely used. Would you please be so kind as
to explain to me why it is morally correct to use one set of terms but
not the other? It is either right or it is wrong. You cannot be
slightly pregnant. I personally find such terms morally repugnant;
however, since they are commonly used on this forum it appears that they
are socially acceptable. Would you not concur or are you going to try
and bullshit your way out of this one?
You so clearly define what is the basic problem with FreeBSD in
general. The sour grapes attitude is so clearly self evident. You
would rather spend your time defending something that doesn't work
as fully functional as it could be if the developers stopped patting
themselves on the back for accomplishing what other OSs had already
done 3 or more years earlier and rather attempted to bring the OS on
par with those competing OSs.
What do you define with your hanging around sniping at people and
sabotaging discussions attitude? In the years I have been on this
list, it seems like you have demonstrated a rabid hatred of all
things related to FreeBSD and most things related to open source
software in general, which makes me wonder why you hang around this
mailing list.
I have a morbid hatred of those who suffer from decidophobia. However,
after restudying the matter, I think it more likely that the real
problem is an irrational fear of success. If only Microsoft was able to
accomplish things like easily getting a printer fully functional under
its environment, making sound or video or wireless cards work without
in all too
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
Jerry,
What you're saying is that, 'you guys think that FreeBSD is a great desktop
workstation, but it's not and anyone who says it is, is wrong. Anyone who
says FreeBSD's not a great workstation because it doesn't have some
particular feature is right and any discussion which questions the value of
that feature for any given workstation is an excuse!'
Now you may have come to this position because of similar experiences in
mailing threads about Windows or Ubuntu, but that doesn't change the fact
that this is a dogmatic position that can't add anything to this discussion.
Maybe these types of thread discussions are stupid anyway-- either your
choice of system satisfies your needs or it doesn't and you change. Or you
just spend your time wishing for something which doesn't exist.
You've made clear that you don't like FreeBSD and you want to use the best
(which obviously for you isn't FreeBSD)-- is there anything more to your
position? Because that seems to be about it, as far as I can tell. Now I
know, repetition is the best rhetorical tactic, but I hear what you're
saying and I respect your decision.
Personally, I think there's value in diversity itself.
PS. There's another saying about wolves, which goes, He, who eats with the
wolves, howls with the wolves.
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and
others (even in the linux community) over the past _five_ (thats
5) years.
I am not sure what parouse means. There are a Shane, Dawn and
Nicole Parouse. Are you referring to them? Perhaps you meant
peruse.
I think you had no doubt at all that Da Rock meant peruse here,
and you should check whether the walls of your house are made of
durable material before you start throwing stones. Check, for
instance, you habitual inability to properly use apostrophes to
indicate the possessive form of a word, or your error in using the
plural form phenomena where the singular phenomenon is
appropriate. These observations of your relative illiteracy come
from a single paragraph, by the way, but until I saw your play dumb
to call someone dumb approach to discussion, I felt it appropriate
to point out your own failings along the same lines -- not because
these specific failings invalidate anything else you say, but because
you're kind of a mean-spirited little hypocrite.
I specifically asked Da Rock in regards to parouse since I am not
familiar with what country he is from or what he considers his native
language. It is very possible that the word he used is native to his
region and therefore I wanted to inquire further.
Furthermore, before you make a complete ass of yourself, please check
out this URL: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phenomena
In short, trying to paint people who disagree with you in the colors
of stupidity for a single spelling error when your errors are fairly
numerous is not a winning strategy.
Win what, I was not aware it was a game. Maybe that is the problem; you
are too busy playing games rather than actually completing bona fide
projects.
I tend not to include Ubuntu since they have made huge strides in
making hardware work correctly under their environment. Seems
strange that they can achieve what FreeBSD considers either
unobtainable or unnecessary (sour grapes).
{OK, let the blame game begin -- after all, it is ALWAYS someone
elses fault}
That must be why you blame everything you perceive as a problem in
regards to open source software on sour grapes.
I'm sorry but I'm really pissed off tonight and you're attitude is
really rubbing me the wrong way. If you want to be best mates with
Gates and his horde then by all means... but this is a genuine
discussion in an attempt to resolve _these_ issues, and clarify
points as to why things are a certain way. If you don't agree,
then be silent and ignore what you perceive to be crap, or at the
very least _try_ not to be so aggressive and offensive. A lot of
us on this list do this as common courtesy.
Ah, there we are. That good old socialist/fascist call to arms,
You're either with us, or against us.
I think the statement was more like Someone who calls it 'open sore'
is clearly a mean-spirited jackass who likes making trouble, rather
than Down with the bourgeoisie! I just figured I'd help clarify.
Now you have really peaked my interest. On any given day, on a Windows
based forum, the terms: FreePiss, open-sore, Lsuck etcetera are
freely thrown around. On Linux based forums, terms like: Winblows,
Microsucks, etcetera are freely used. Would you please be so kind as
to explain to me why it is morally correct to use one set of
freebsd 8.2 lockups on Dell T610 w/ Perc 6/i
I have been running 8.2 Release patched with ZFS v28 support (via http://mfsbsd.vx.sk) since early September. In that time, we have gotten multiple errors every day regarding mfi timeouts (mfi0: COMMAND 0xff80007ba5b8 TIMEOUT AFTER 32 SECONDS) and we have experienced a full system lockup every 2-4 weeks. When the system locks up it will still respond to pings, but is totally unresponsive via ssh or directly from the console. After hard booting the system, everything comes back up without any issues. I have come across other users who have experienced similar issues (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-February/227650.html). In their cases, they were able to resolve the issue by disabling C-States, Turbo Mode, and setting the bios to Maximum Performance. We have made these changes and ensured that all of our device's firmware are up to date. We are still experiencing the issue however. Fortunately, iDrac continues to work during the lockup, so we have been able to power-cycle the server remotely, but it is still a big pain. If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very appreciative. Brian Gold System Administrator Bard College at Simon's Rock ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DNS
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 04:26:38PM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: Yes, you can run BIND on the same FreeBSD machine as your web server. You have to have your nameserver listed with internic (for .com and .net - ie, your nameserver has to show up in the NAMESERVER whois (note: different than DOMAIN whois) on http://www.internic.net/whois.html) and also for each TLD you want to provide service for (ie, .org, .mobi, etc etc) . If you are using opensrs it's pretty simple to list your nameserver with local and foreign tlds, but with other Registrars - you'd have to check into the details. It's generally easier to use a local domain for the nameservers (ie, ns1.example.mobi for .mobi domains.) but it is also possible to use foreign nameservers (ie, ns1.example.com to resolve www.example.mobi - is considered foreign) Waitman Bothering you again Waitman, Now after refreshing my memory (it happened one year ago) I could remember that I did register the nameservers. I found the option in my registar to add to some domain i.e. mydomain.com the entries ns1.mydomain.com, etc. I think that the problem I had was related with the IPs. The VPS provider gave me just two, and AFAIK each name server needs its own dedicated IP. Now I can remember that I asked to their support team and they answered me that the nameservers could perfectly share the IP with the domains. Could be that the reason I don't get the thing working? Walter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DNS
Now after refreshing my memory (it happened one year ago) I could remember that I did register the nameservers. I found the option in my registar to add to some domain i.e. mydomain.com the entries ns1.mydomain.com, etc. I think that the problem I had was related with the IPs. The VPS provider gave me just two, and AFAIK each name server needs its own dedicated IP. Now I can remember that I asked to their support team and they answered me that the nameservers could perfectly share the IP with the domains. Could be that the reason I don't get the thing working? Walter Hello, You /can/ have a nameserver with same IP as www. And you /can/ multihome your NIC with multiple IP on same machine, ie, www.example.com 192.168.0.131 and 192.168.0.132 (if you want, optional extra address for www) ns1.example.com 192.168.0.131 ns2.example.com 192.168.0.132 Waitman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 08:31:14AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated: If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others (even in the linux community) over the past _five_ (thats 5) years. I am not sure what parouse means. There are a Shane, Dawn and Nicole Parouse. Are you referring to them? Perhaps you meant peruse. I think you had no doubt at all that Da Rock meant peruse here, and you should check whether the walls of your house are made of durable material before you start throwing stones. Check, for instance, you habitual inability to properly use apostrophes to indicate the possessive form of a word, or your error in using the plural form phenomena where the singular phenomenon is appropriate. These observations of your relative illiteracy come from a single paragraph, by the way, but until I saw your play dumb to call someone dumb approach to discussion, I felt it appropriate to point out your own failings along the same lines -- not because these specific failings invalidate anything else you say, but because you're kind of a mean-spirited little hypocrite. I specifically asked Da Rock in regards to parouse since I am not familiar with what country he is from or what he considers his native language. It is very possible that the word he used is native to his region and therefore I wanted to inquire further. I don't believe you. That's about the most cockamamie oh innocent me defense I've seen in a long time, especially given your history of trolling on this mailing list. Furthermore, before you make a complete ass of yourself, please check out this URL: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phenomena http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/phenomena . . . or, from your own choice of dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phenomenon Did you see the word nonstandard on the page whose URI you provided? I'm not making an ass of myself. I'm pointing out where you have done so by using nonstandard or incorrect formulations (such as lack of apostrophes as indicia of possessiveness, thus once again using plural forms to mean something other than plurality) while jumping all over someone else's case for a misspelling. In short, trying to paint people who disagree with you in the colors of stupidity for a single spelling error when your errors are fairly numerous is not a winning strategy. Win what, I was not aware it was a game. Maybe that is the problem; you are too busy playing games rather than actually completing bona fide projects. I'm pretty sure even you are capable of understanding what I said, and are not literally confused about whether I'm referring to some kind of game. It's also kinda interesting you're talking about me wasting time on this game you've invented that I must be playing rather than completing projects when you've just recently admitted you are wasting copious quantities of time trolling Polytropon, to the extent that you are mining years of mailing list archives in some kind of crusade to assassinate his character. I have zero interest in wasting anywhere near that much time on you, the way you are wasting so much time on him, and while I'm at it that looks a bit like someone obsessed with winning some kind of imagined contest. Ah, there we are. That good old socialist/fascist call to arms, You're either with us, or against us. I think the statement was more like Someone who calls it 'open sore' is clearly a mean-spirited jackass who likes making trouble, rather than Down with the bourgeoisie! I just figured I'd help clarify. Now you have really peaked my interest. On any given day, on a Windows based forum, the terms: FreePiss, open-sore, Lsuck etcetera are freely thrown around. On Linux based forums, terms like: Winblows, Microsucks, etcetera are freely used. Would you please be so kind as to explain to me why it is morally correct to use one set of terms but not the other? It is either right or it is wrong. You cannot be slightly pregnant. I personally find such terms morally repugnant; however, since they are commonly used on this forum it appears that they are socially acceptable. Would you not concur or are you going to try and bullshit your way out of this one? 1. I didn't say it was morally correct to use one set of derogatory forms and morally incorrect to use the other. You are attributing arguments to me I never made. 2. I don't even use terms like winblows and Microsucks. I don't even say M$. I refer to Microsoft Windows OSes as Microsoft Windows OSes, or sometimes MS Windows OSes, or something along those lines. Trying to make me out to be a bad person for things other people have done is no way to do your arguments
freebsd server limits question
Hello everyone. My first post here and I'd like to thank everyone who's involved within the FreeBSD project. We are using FreeBSD on our web servers and we are very happy with it. We have an online messaging application that is using mongodb. Our members send messages to the voice show's (turkish version) contestants. Our two mongodb instances ended up in two centos6 servers. We have failed. So hard. There were announcements and calls made live on tv. We had +30K/sec visitors to the app. When I looked at the mongodb errors, I had thousands of these: http://pastie.org/private/nd681sndos0bednzjea0g. You may be wondering why I'm telling you about centos. Well, we are making the switch from centos to freebsd FreeBSD. I would like to know what are our limits? How we can set it up so our FreeBSD servers can handle min 20K connections (mongodb's connection limit)? Our two servers have 24 core CPUs and 32 GBs of RAM. We are also very open to suggestions. Please help me out here so we don't fail deadly, again. ps. this question was asked in the forums as well however as someone suggested in the forums, i am posting it here too. -- Muhammet S. AYDIN http://compector.com http://mengu.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildworld error 8.2-STABLE amd64
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:15:59 +0100 Marco Steinbach c...@executive-computing.de wrote: Janos Dohanics wrote on 02.01.2012 11:04: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:18:53 +0100 Marco Steinbach c...@executive-computing.de wrote: Janos Dohanics wrote on 31.12.2011 19:56: Buildworld stopped with this error (with updated source): [...] cc -O3 -DNEED_SOLARIS_BOOLEAN [...] I have posted the build log at http://wwwp.3dresearch.com/ALMAVIVA2011123101_buildworld Would you please advise? Quoting /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf: # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code. # Note that optimization settings other than -O and -O2 are not # recommended or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - # please revert any nonstandard optimization settings to -O or # -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing before submitting bug reports without # patches to the developers. The error you're seeing is a result from using O3 for building the source in question -- At least my 8.2-STABLE ran into the same problem, once I used O3, instead of the default '-O2 -pipe'. MfG CoCo Thank you, there was indeed the line CFLAGS=-O3 in make.conf, after I have commented it out, I could build world. I'm wondering how was my make.conf changed though; I'm sure I did not add CFLAGS=-O3 - is it possible that one of the ports have added this? Although, as far as I can tell, not explicitly forbidden in the porter's handbook, I think that to be highly unlikely in the case of CFLAGS. The least I'd expect would be some kind notice, if so intrusive a change is done deliberately. If I'd suspect a port fiddling with /etc/make.conf, I'd probably go looking for entries carrying a timestamp close to /etc/make.confs in /var/db/pkg. Of course, this largely depends on what happened in between the time of actual modification and me noticing, but I think that's the first thing I'd do. MfG CoCo Thanks again, unfortunately, I have edited /etc/make.conf and did not make note of the time stamp... -- Janos Dohanics ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
redports question
Hello I have a login account in redports.org. Now I wan to get (via svn) the virtualbox port (all of them)... What is the procedure??? In the wiki it show how I can work with my account in redports only... Thanks for any help... sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DNS
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 11:06:39AM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: Hello, You /can/ have a nameserver with same IP as www. And you /can/ multihome your NIC with multiple IP on same machine, ie, www.example.com 192.168.0.131 and 192.168.0.132 (if you want, optional extra address for www) ns1.example.com 192.168.0.131 ns2.example.com 192.168.0.132 Waitman I thought I've isolated the problem. God is playing with me like in The Truman Show :-). Well, the next time I get a dedicated server I will try again. Many thanks Waitman Walter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: freebsd server limits question
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Muhammet S. AYDIN Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:13 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd server limits question Hello everyone. My first post here and I'd like to thank everyone who's involved within the FreeBSD project. We are using FreeBSD on our web servers and we are very happy with it. We have an online messaging application that is using mongodb. Our members send messages to the voice show's (turkish version) contestants. Our two mongodb instances ended up in two centos6 servers. We have failed. So hard. There were announcements and calls made live on tv. We had +30K/sec visitors to the app. When I looked at the mongodb errors, I had thousands of these: http://pastie.org/private/nd681sndos0bednzjea0g. You may be wondering why I'm telling you about centos. Well, we are making the switch from centos to freebsd FreeBSD. I would like to know what are our limits? How we can set it up so our FreeBSD servers can handle min 20K connections (mongodb's connection limit)? Our two servers have 24 core CPUs and 32 GBs of RAM. We are also very open to suggestions. Please help me out here so we don't fail deadly, again. We have similar hardware (24x core CPUs but 48GB of RAM instead of 32). NOTE: The machine has 2x igb(4) interfaces and we're negotiating at 1000baseTX Gigabit full-duplex link-speed. We had similar problems, but have had zero problems in the past 2 months with high-load (read below). ASIDE: We're using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p6 We found that the following tweaks had to be made in /etc/sysctl.conf : ### Network Tuning ### # Increase TCP maximum segment lifetime net.inet.tcp.msl=15000 # Increase TCP time before keepalive probes again net.inet.tcp.keepidle=30 # Increase maximum number of mbuf clusters allowed (174808 = 32768) kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768 # Increase by 8-times the maximum socket buffer size (262144 = 2097152) kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=2097152 # Increase by 64-times the max pending socket conn. queue size (128 = 8192) kern.ipc.somaxconn=8192 # Increase by ~8-times the maximum number of [open] files (8232 = 65536) kern.maxfiles=65536 # Increase by ~4-times the max files allowed open per process (7408 = 32768) kern.maxfilesperproc=32768 # Disable delay of ACK to try and piggyback it onto a data packet (1 = 0) net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0 # Increase by ~2-times the maximum outgoing TCP datagram size (32768 = 65535) net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65535 # Increase maximum space for incoming UDP datagrams (41600 = 65535) net.inet.udp.recvspace=65535 # Increase by ~6-times the maximum outgoing UDP datagram size (9216 = 57344) net.inet.udp.maxdgram=57344 # Increase by ~8-times the default stream receive space (8192 = 65535) net.local.stream.recvspace=65535 # Increase by ~8-times the default stream send space (8192 = 65535) net.local.stream.sendspace=65535 Meanwhile, yet more tweaks go into /boot/loader.conf : ### Process/Memory Tuning ### # Increase by 4-times the maximum data size (536870912 = 2147483648) kern.maxdsiz=2147483648 # Increase by 4-times the maximum stack size (67108864 = 268435456) kern.maxssiz=268435456 ### Network Tuning ### # Increase maximum outgoing Netgraph datagram size (20480 = 45000) net.graph.maxdgram=45000 # Increase maximum space for incoming Netgraph datagrams (20480 = 45000) net.graph.recvspace=45000 # Increase by 128-times max num of data queue items to allocate (512 = 65536) net.graph.maxdata=65536 With the above tweaks in-place for both sysctl.conf(5) and loader.conf(5), all our problems are gone. Your mileage may vary, but I suspect that the above collection of tweaks will work well for you. They should be safe for both 32-bit (both regular and PAE) and 64 (all tested). However, if you are the cautious type, I would recommend adding one optimizer at a time, rebooting after each tweak. -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd server limits question
hello... I supose you are using 64bits version of FreeBSD and at least 8.2 version... What happens is that you have exhausted the thread limit of your appplication your systeam is unable to create more threads for that appplication a command: sysctl -a | grep thread will show how they are setted up in your system. mine has: - kern.threads.max_threads_hits: 0 kern.threads.max_threads_per_proc: 1500 vm.stats.vm.v_kthreadpages: 0 vm.stats.vm.v_kthreads: 24 vfs.nfsrv.minthreads: 4 vfs.nfsrv.maxthreads: 4 vfs.nfsrv.threads: 4 net.isr.numthreads: 1 net.isr.bindthreads: 0 net.isr.maxthreads: 1 -- note that the number of threads per proc is 1500 here (a notebook) to increase the number of threads, edit the file /etc/sysctl.conf put a line: kern.threads.max_threads_per_proc=9000 and than the command: /etc/rc.d/sysctl restart Hope this will help ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help Recovering FBSD 8 ZFS System
--As of December 31, 2011 1:40:59 PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson is alleged to have said: Thus it appears I am missing ad16 that I used to have. My data zpool was the bulk of my system with over 600 gig of files and things I'd like to have back. I thought that by creating a raidz1 I could avoid having to back up the huge drive and avoid this grief. However it appears I have lost 2 disks at the same time. :( Any thoughts before I just give up on recovering my data pool? Ouch. All I can really say is 'Redundancy is not backup', but that's a bit trite... The one thing you haven't mentioned trying that might be worth the attempt is trying the recovery from a 9.0 disk. There has been work done on the ZFS system, and it's possible that something might work. But that's mostly just to be thorough... As for what it was telling you: It was just saying it couldn't open the drives. ;) Which does bring up one other option: If you've got a different drive controller, you might try plugging the drives into it. (In the hopes that it's the *controller* and not the drive that's gone bad. Unlikely, bit it *does* happen.) (Depending on the value of the data pool, a good data recovery service might be able to do something as well. But they'd have to be a very good service, and know what they were working with.) And regarding my root pool, my system can't mount root and start. What do I need to do to boot from my degraded root pool. Here's the current status: # zpool status pool: root state: DEGRADED status: One or more devices could not be opened. Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue functioning in a degraded state. action: Attach the missing device and online it using 'zpool online'. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-2Q scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM rootDEGRADED 0 0 0 mirrorDEGRADED 0 0 0 gptid/5b623854-6c46-11de-ae82-001b21361de7 ONLINE 0 0 0 12032653780322685599UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/ad6p3 Do I just need to do a 'zpool detach root /dev/ad6p3' to remove it from the pool and get it to boot? And then once I replace the disk a 'zpool attach root new partition' to fix? Thanks for your time. Personally, I'd do a 'zpool replace /dev/ad6p3 /dev/$NEWDRIVE', but the above should work as well. What's odd though is that you can't boot from it as is: Degraded should be considered functional, and it should let you boot. You mentioned updating the zpool to v15. Did you update the boot block at the same time? (Just checking the basics.) It'd need to be able to read the updated zpool. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Help Recovering FBSD 8 ZFS System
Ladies and gentleman, I will be unplugged from my email until the 17th of January. In the mean time here's a video of a bunny opening your mail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyaRmTwdKs Your mail will not be forwarded and I will contact you when I come back, alternatively you can contact one of the other administrators or email i...@astalavista.com Merry christmas and a happy new year! Best regards, Sykadul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd server limits question
At 20:12 02/01/2012, Muhammet S. AYDIN wrote: Hello everyone. My first post here and I'd like to thank everyone who's involved within the FreeBSD project. We are using FreeBSD on our web servers and we are very happy with it. We have an online messaging application that is using mongodb. Our members send messages to the voice show's (turkish version) contestants. Our two mongodb instances ended up in two centos6 servers. We have failed. So hard. There were announcements and calls made live on tv. We had +30K/sec visitors to the app. When I looked at the mongodb errors, I had thousands of these: http://pastie.org/private/nd681sndos0bednzjea0g. You may be wondering why I'm telling you about centos. Well, we are making the switch from centos to freebsd FreeBSD. I would like to know what are our limits? How we can set it up so our FreeBSD servers can handle min 20K connections (mongodb's connection limit)? Our two servers have 24 core CPUs and 32 GBs of RAM. We are also very open to suggestions. Please help me out here so we don't fail deadly, again. ps. this question was asked in the forums as well however as someone suggested in the forums, i am posting it here too. Is your app limited by cpu or by i/o? What do vmstat/iostat says about your hd usage? Perhaps mongodb fails to read/write fast enough and making process thread pool bigger only will make problem worse, there will be more threads trying to read/write. Have you already tuned mongodb? Post more info please, several lines (not the first one) of iostat and vmstat may be a start. Your hd configuration, raid, etc... too. L ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
BIOS configuration for a Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R and i7 Intel processor
All, I am putting together a DIY system using a Gigabyte motherboard and the Intel i7. I plan on running FreeBSD 9.0 as the based OS. I have a Seagate 1 TB Barracuda for the hard drive connected to one of the sata controllers. I've got a couple of questions regarding the SATA setup. The motherboard has an Intel ICH10R South Bridge controlling 6 SATA2 (3.0 Gbs/s) devices, Gigabyte controlling 2 GSATA2 devices (3.0 Gb/s) and a Marvell 9128 SATA3 (6.0 Gb/s) devices. I currently have the HDD connected to the ICH10R. My first question is simply confirmation of what my googling seems to have turned up - that this controller is supported by FreeBSD. 2nd question, the BIOS setup lists this controller mode as IDE and the other possible values are - IDE = Disables RAID for this SATA controller, configures the controller in IDE mode RAID = Enables RAID for this SATA controller AHCI = Configures the SATA controller to Advanced Host Controller Interface mode to support enabled advanced Serial ATA commands such as Native Command Queuing and Hot plug. Which mode is the best for FreeBSD? The BIOS default is IDE. I am currently only using 1 HDD so I am not currently interested in RAID. Is AHCI supported? NOTE: these modes are listed for all three SATA controllers. Thanks, Patrick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Mouse motion event holds up the input
This started from some system update. There are some strange dependencies on mouse motion event. For example, when google is open in chromium and I click on some search choice, it only goes there after I move the mouse, click itself is not enough. Same when I press Ctrl-Alt-F1, it only goes to the black terminal when I move the mouse. Another symptom that I think is related is that doubleclick on the word in konsole in kde4, and in all browsers, isn't selecting the word as it should. I have rebuilt kde4 with all dependencies and it didn't help. What might be the problem? Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: An OS should strive to be a better platform for many people, including techies and non-techies. A good software design philosophy is that good software works out of the box without configuration using reasonable defaults, but, that that the software should be flexible, very configurable, the user should be able to configure everything how they need it, but they should not be required to. This allows the user to configure as much or as little as they want. Everything should be able to be accomplished with both GUI and CLI, and API. The entire system should be well understood, well documented and transparent . Its like a car, its better to have a car that has a spacious engine compartment and is very well documented in service manuals so that a car mechanic can easily fix it. While not every user may want to get under the hood, a spacious, well documented and easy to fix space under the hood makes the mechanics job easier of fixing the car. The car being made more reliable and easier to use as well means that the common driver has fewer breakdowns. Windows is a terrible OS because its like a car with the entire engine area sealed in a compartment that can only be opened with the car manufacturer with a key, so mechanics cannot even repair it. There is no dount that UNIX is a better design system, due to the fact it is open and the underlying systems are well understood, well defined and well known, including due to the Unix philosophy of modularisation of components. I am in full agreement with Unix design philosophies and unix conventions. I definitely oppose any effort to re-invent Unix or break with unix conventionsand philosophies. It has been said that people who try to reinvent Unix will do so poorly. I agree. I am very much in favour of respecting Unix traditions, backwards compatability and conventions. For instance, supporting the X11 Window System i think is something that we should always commit to, it is important for compatability and for the flexibility it provides. Have you ever considered running for office? You would make an amazing politician! Here's what's wrong with the world and how to fix it, but don't get me wrong, if you support the thing I'm trying to fix let me assure you that I don't think anything is wrong with it and that you too can safely vote for me. I think tis okay to build additions to the system, but in addition, to the existing components, not to overthrow existing parts of the system. Backwards compatability is very important which is why it is important to respect conventions such as POSIX. I think that we can create a GUI front end built on top of the Unix system that helps manage and configure the underlying Unix system for non-techie users. This is layered design that gives us both the techie friendliness and controllability of Unix and a GUI front end over that for non-techies. No one should be required to use a GUI front end and should be able to directly edit configuration files if they want and use the rich CLI that FreeBSD has. This is a philosophy i like of allowing users to exercise as much or as little fine control over the system as they want. OK, nice phylosophy. Obvious question: why aren't you on Ubuntu forums asking what button to press to get your USB capture device to work on 11.10? On a slightly more serious note, you seem to be unaware of PC-BSD. Also, KDE. I understand you think you thought things through and there can't possibly be anyone sane disagreeing with your vague ideas about usability, but allow me to yell in horror: I don't want layers of bullshit piling inside of the operating system I use! Please no! A well documented config file will do just fine. Thanks. And I'm pretty sure an overwhelming majority of FreeBSD users and developers feel the same way, that's why I'm using it in the first place. And that's just the way it is now. Try replicating the wealth of information you get in various config files in FreeBSD in a GUI. Just how hard it is to open a simple text file in an editor and just fracking do what it tells you to in comments?! And it's not just the base system, any decent third party program has this wonderfull feature. How hard can it be?! Seriously. Sure, sometimes things can get confusing but that's the nature of any complex system, you can't make it go away with a GUI. What you're trying to solve is not an engineering but a mental health problem--an irrational fear of comupters specifically and of reading (and thinking even) in general. No user interface can solve this because it's not a user interface problem. It's like going to a mathemathics department at a university and demanding a GUI for math because most folks get a panic attack when they see funny lookin' symbols. And what the hell does all this have to do with kernel documentation and your driver problem? How is a
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 02:59:20PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: FreeBSD is very well documented! I guess a lot of people can't cope with how structured and professional it is. They are used to chaos, fear, uncertainty and doubt and feel comfortable that way. My experience is that FreeBSD kernel documentation is spotty and not really sufficient to understand the kernel. Without good documentation, code can take so much time to decipher it might be quicker to just throw it out and start from scratch. Maintainable code requires documentation. What you wrote here is so full of generalizations and banal truisms mixed with weasel words that it doesn't really mean anything. 2. FreeBsd is a main-stream O/S-- just look at the number of different architectures/applications which are supported by FreeBSD. Main stream and top player for web and internet servers FreeBSD is far from being mainstream or practical for most users. I tried So what? Using a helicopter to get from A to B is far from being mainstream and practical for most users of transportaion. That doesn't mean we should start putting wheels on them in hope more people who need cars will start using helicopters. to use a USB video capture device. For you, what may be useless may be indespensible for others. I don't think anyone is claiming FreeBSD shouldn't support as much reasonable hardware as possible. We should improve FreeBSD to make it work for better for more people, experts and non-techies alike. I am really appalled at an attitude that some have against making it better, adding features and functionality that will make for a smoother experience, its as if they dont care about anyone else and want the OS to be useful to no one else. We need to make it better for everyone. Why? But more importantly, define better and everyone. Also, who is this we? I'm sorry but usually when someone starts lamenting that we should x, especially in volunteer and FOSS projects, he/she usually means anyone but me, I just want my stuff to work. So you want your USB capture device to work, maybe you skimmed through some documentation with the idea of writing a driver, but you can't make sense of anything. What are you doing on freebsd-questions posting meaningless fresh-out-of-college ideas about software development? You should be on freebsd-hackers asking specific question. Linus has a good, timeless answer for the kind of phylosophy essays you're writing here: Talk is cheap, show me the code. Yes, it may seem harsh and user-unfriendly, but that's just the way it is. 4. Drivers aren't really a limitation. Look at the history of computing, that modern O/S support such diverse platforms is an amazing development. As far as I'm concerned, FreeBSD supports main stream components, there are no classes of components that I'm aware of which aren't supported by FreeBSD. If you need to use a particular device, for which there is no driver, historically it's not unusual to find that on any particular platform a particular device is not supported. It supports most things except the things you wouldn't want anyway Drivers are a huge limitation, the lack of them, Here I beleive you are just plain wrong. The fact is, people do not want to have to think about whether or not their hardware will work with an OS or fight the OS for days to make it work. Trhe truth is on Windows things really do just work. Ive set up Windows, I know this. Windows has other things however which make it undesirable to use. What I want to use is combine the things Windows has right with an open source, free OS. The way things are now does not make since, you can use Windows, and the hardwarw works, but its a closed platform. You can use FreeBSD, which has bad hardware support, but is an open platform. I want to see an open platforn that has great hardware support, even if we have to use binary drivers. Let's ignore the oxymoronic open platform-binary drivers idea for a moment. Where did you get the idea that FreeBSD community in general discards binary drivers? How about bitching to the manufacturer of your USB capture device? What, you mean drivers don't magically grow on trees ready to be plucked?! 5. Nobody is making anyone use FreeBSD. It's free. If you don't enjoy it, don't use it. Maybe remove yourself from the mailing list-- or don't, if you just want to stay informed. If you don't like it, please leave, there are a lot of alternatives What you are saying here is that your idea is instead of FreeBSD being responsive to the needs of all users, you basically want to own the project and dont care about anyone else. No, he is saying you should act rationally and either use the tool that gets your job done, or if you don't like the tool start doing something productive to get the tool you would like to have. What you're doing instead is writing meaningless fantasies about
Re: BIOS configuration for a Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R and i7 Intel processor
On 1/2/12 12:31 PM, Patrick Mahan wrote: All, I am putting together a DIY system using a Gigabyte motherboard and the Intel i7. I plan on running FreeBSD 9.0 as the based OS. I have a Seagate 1 TB Barracuda for the hard drive connected to one of the sata controllers. I've got a couple of questions regarding the SATA setup. The motherboard has an Intel ICH10R South Bridge controlling 6 SATA2 (3.0 Gbs/s) devices, Gigabyte controlling 2 GSATA2 devices (3.0 Gb/s) and a Marvell 9128 SATA3 (6.0 Gb/s) devices. I currently have the HDD connected to the ICH10R. My first question is simply confirmation of what my googling seems to have turned up - that this controller is supported by FreeBSD. 2nd question, the BIOS setup lists this controller mode as IDE and the other possible values are - IDE = Disables RAID for this SATA controller, configures the controller in IDE mode RAID = Enables RAID for this SATA controller AHCI = Configures the SATA controller to Advanced Host Controller Interface mode to support enabled advanced Serial ATA commands such as Native Command Queuing and Hot plug. Which mode is the best for FreeBSD? The BIOS default is IDE. I am currently only using 1 HDD so I am not currently interested in RAID. Is AHCI supported? NOTE: these modes are listed for all three SATA controllers. All, Slight addendum, I have found a link to Warren Block's instructions on enabling AHCI support and others have pointed out that they are using AHCI on GB motherboards. Again, thanks, Patrick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help Recovering FBSD 8 ZFS System
On 1/2/2012 12:36 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of December 31, 2011 1:40:59 PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson is alleged to have said: Thus it appears I am missing ad16 that I used to have. My data zpool was the bulk of my system with over 600 gig of files and things I'd like to have back. I thought that by creating a raidz1 I could avoid having to back up the huge drive and avoid this grief. However it appears I have lost 2 disks at the same time. :( Any thoughts before I just give up on recovering my data pool? Ouch. All I can really say is 'Redundancy is not backup', but that's a bit trite... Yes, I know redundancy doesn't protect against operator error and thus isn't a true backup. However this is a personal system whose main function was to store DVDs, MP3s, photos, and the like. I can recreate most of the content and have backups of the photos up until about a year ago (bad me). The one thing you haven't mentioned trying that might be worth the attempt is trying the recovery from a 9.0 disk. There has been work done on the ZFS system, and it's possible that something might work. But that's mostly just to be thorough... I may try this. However I suspect before anything can work, I have to get the missing disk(s) detected by the OS. One (ad6) is detected but full of errors. There is another that's not even seen. As for what it was telling you: It was just saying it couldn't open the drives. ;) Which does bring up one other option: If you've got a different drive controller, you might try plugging the drives into it. (In the hopes that it's the *controller* and not the drive that's gone bad. Unlikely, bit it *does* happen.) Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. However in this case, the controller is a SATA that's integrated into the motherboard. Since two of 4 are working, that would mean the controller is OK, right? I guess I could swap SATA cables for a test. (Depending on the value of the data pool, a good data recovery service might be able to do something as well. But they'd have to be a very good service, and know what they were working with.) And regarding my root pool, my system can't mount root and start. What do I need to do to boot from my degraded root pool. Here's the current status: # zpool status pool: root state: DEGRADED status: One or more devices could not be opened. Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue functioning in a degraded state. action: Attach the missing device and online it using 'zpool online'. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-2Q scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM rootDEGRADED 0 0 0 mirrorDEGRADED 0 0 0 gptid/5b623854-6c46-11de-ae82-001b21361de7 ONLINE 0 0 0 12032653780322685599UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/ad6p3 Do I just need to do a 'zpool detach root /dev/ad6p3' to remove it from the pool and get it to boot? And then once I replace the disk a 'zpool attach root new partition' to fix? Thanks for your time. Personally, I'd do a 'zpool replace /dev/ad6p3 /dev/$NEWDRIVE', but the above should work as well. What's odd though is that you can't boot from it as is: Degraded should be considered functional, and it should let you boot. You mentioned updating the zpool to v15. Did you update the boot block at the same time? (Just checking the basics.) It'd need to be able to read the updated zpool. I assume I upgraded the boot block since I've had no trouble booting before the drive failures and the upgrade was a long time ago. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd server limits question
To deal with this kind of traffic you will most likely need to set up a mongo db cluster of more than a few instances… much better. There should be A LOT of info on how to scale mongo to the level you are looking for but most likely you will find that on ruby forums NOT on *NIX boards…. The OS boards/focus will help you with fine tuning but all the fine tuning in the world will not solve an app architecture issue… I have setup MASSIVE mongo/ruby installs for testing that can do this sort of volume with ease… the stack looks something like this…. Nginix Unicorn Sinatra MongoMapper MongoDB with only one Nginix instance can feed an almost arbitrary number of Unicorn/Sinatra/MongoMapper instances that can in turn feed a properly configured MongoDB cluster with pre-allocated key distribution so that the incoming inserts are spread evenly against the cluster instances… Even if you do not use ruby that community will have scads of info on scaling MongoDB. One more comment related to L's advice - true you DO NOT want more transactions queued up if your back-end resources cannot handle the TPS - this will just make the issue harder to isolate and potentially make the recovery more difficult. Better to reject the connection at the front-end than take it and blow up the app/system. The beauty of the Nginix/Unicorn solution (Unicorn is ruby specific) is that there is no queue that is feed to the workers when there are no workers - the request is rejected. The unicorn worker model can be reproduced for any other implementation environment (PHP/Perl/C/etc) outside of ruby in about 30 minutes. It's simple and Nginix is very well suited to low overhead reverse proxy to this kind of setup. Wishing you the best - if i can be of more help let me know… RB On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Eduardo Morras wrote: At 20:12 02/01/2012, Muhammet S. AYDIN wrote: Hello everyone. My first post here and I'd like to thank everyone who's involved within the FreeBSD project. We are using FreeBSD on our web servers and we are very happy with it. We have an online messaging application that is using mongodb. Our members send messages to the voice show's (turkish version) contestants. Our two mongodb instances ended up in two centos6 servers. We have failed. So hard. There were announcements and calls made live on tv. We had +30K/sec visitors to the app. When I looked at the mongodb errors, I had thousands of these: http://pastie.org/private/nd681sndos0bednzjea0g. You may be wondering why I'm telling you about centos. Well, we are making the switch from centos to freebsd FreeBSD. I would like to know what are our limits? How we can set it up so our FreeBSD servers can handle min 20K connections (mongodb's connection limit)? Our two servers have 24 core CPUs and 32 GBs of RAM. We are also very open to suggestions. Please help me out here so we don't fail deadly, again. ps. this question was asked in the forums as well however as someone suggested in the forums, i am posting it here too. Is your app limited by cpu or by i/o? What do vmstat/iostat says about your hd usage? Perhaps mongodb fails to read/write fast enough and making process thread pool bigger only will make problem worse, there will be more threads trying to read/write. Have you already tuned mongodb? Post more info please, several lines (not the first one) of iostat and vmstat may be a start. Your hd configuration, raid, etc... too. L ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad w500 microphone with Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
From: Eric Schuele e.schu...@computer.org To: Lyubomir Grigorov lyubo...@grigorovl.eu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Thinkpad w500 microphone with Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa) On 01/01/2012 15:23, Lyubomir Grigorov wrote: I assume you are using Skype with linuxator? In this case, are the sound devices in Skype set to OSS? From the PC-BSD forum, the following got sound working for me, since OSS wasn't showing as an option: hmm. well. thats a good quesiton (with linuxulator?) now that you mention it. The port is marked BROKEN. and if you unmark it as such you can't get the distfiles. So I pulled them off a machine I had it one from some time (years?) back and built it. It built fine. Runs fine. Digging into var/db/pkg/skype* ... +CONTENTS says linux this and that so I'd dare to say yes then. There does not seem to be a config option in Skype that I can find to set it to use OSS. Just says '/dev/dsp' and /dev/dsp0'. # pkg_add -r linux-f10-alsa-plugins-oss # cp /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf-dist /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/ I'm not seeing the above in the ports tree. :/ Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam) Hard to believe that ThinkPads are still in existence. The overpriced computers that so many folks just had to have back in the mid to late 1990's. I recall one lawyer I worked for paid over $7,000 USD for his ThinkPad and that 15 years ago when the dollar was still ahead of the Euro. Everybody wanted one because of those three magic lettters, IBM. And I always thought that was funny because IBM made very little if any of the parts that went into a ThinkPad laptop. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd server limits question
On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Robert Boyer wrote: To deal with this kind of traffic you will most likely need to set up a mongo db cluster of more than a few instances… much better. There should be A LOT of info on how to scale mongo to the level you are looking for but most likely you will find that on ruby forums NOT on *NIX boards…. Suggest hitting up 10gen as well they usually have some knowledgeable individuals available to talk mongo... Cheers, m ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: [troll snipper] . perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit driver system from Darwin, perhaps even allowing Darwin drivers to be used on FreeBSD. All of this can go into a kernel module so that if all one uses is native FreeBSD drivers made for FreeBSDs normal driver API, they won't need to load this subsystem. You see, you could have just proposed this in the first place instead of provoking a flame fest, ranting about, mostly imagined, lack of documentation, GUI configuration tools and giving condescending lectures on programmer productivity. Oh well... Right on, Nikola ! But David's paragraph I left in is a real dream for me. It is basicaly what's keeping me from using FBSD as my audio workstation. I have an Echo Gina3D card there is simply no FBSD driver for it. But there are Mac drivers from Echo!. I even too a shot at downloading the framework/API from Echo (windows :( ) but it is just way above me. A colegue from Japan had written a driver for an old Echo Gina 20 bit which I managed to compile and load (believe it or not) but it was for FBSD 5. I tried to compile it on my FBSD 8 STABLE but it issues too much errors that (again) is beyond my capacity. But I'm a stubborn one, so I'll try to keep learning from my mistakes. Maybe one day a new driver for FBSD will be born. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mailing list and personal assaults
From: Johan Hendriks joh.hendr...@gmail.com To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: mailing list and personal assaults I as a normal sys admin like to read the mailing lists, because it learned me a lot, and it still does. But lately it looks like more and more people get personal! The word ass, has passed this year even more then i used my own. Maybe it is the time we live in, but please ! If you are not agree with someone's statement or thoughts, ignore it or write your thoughts and be done with it. regards Johan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I agree. A mailing list like this should not fall to the lowest common denominator. And I would like to add that while this community seems to be an exception, far too often someone wastes bandwidth and bytes by telling the person with a question to RTFM. I just finished a rather complicated project which took me days to resolve and several times when I asked questions there was always some wise crack at hand who would make the commen that if you just RTFM everything would be fine. In this case the manuals were lacking and most of the data was obselete or irrelavent to the project I was conductingkind of like FreeBSD documentation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd server limits question
Sorry one more thought and a clarification…. I have found that it is best to run mongos with each app server instance most of the mongo interface libraries aren't intelligent about the way that they distribute requests to available mongos processes. mongos processes are also relatively lightweight and need no coordination or synchronization with each other - simplifies things a lot and makes any potential bugs/complexity with app server/mongo db connection logic just go away. It's pretty important when configuring shards to take on the write volume that you do your best to pre-allocate chunks and avoid chunk migrations during your traffic floods - not hard to do at all. There are also about a million different ways to deal with atomicity (if that is a word) and a very mongo specific way of ensuring writes actually made it to disk somewhere = from your brief description of the app in question it does not sound that it is too critical to ensure every single solitary piece of data persists no matter what as I am assuming most of it is irrelevant and becomes completely irrelevant after the show- or some time there after. Most of the programing and config examples make an opposite assumption in that they assume that each transaction MUST be completely durable - if you forgo that you can get screaming TPS out of a mongo shard. Also if you do not find what you are looking for via a ruby support group - the JS and node JS community also may be of assistance but they tend to have a very narrow view of the world…. ;-) RB On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Robert Boyer wrote: To deal with this kind of traffic you will most likely need to set up a mongo db cluster of more than a few instances… much better. There should be A LOT of info on how to scale mongo to the level you are looking for but most likely you will find that on ruby forums NOT on *NIX boards…. The OS boards/focus will help you with fine tuning but all the fine tuning in the world will not solve an app architecture issue… I have setup MASSIVE mongo/ruby installs for testing that can do this sort of volume with ease… the stack looks something like this…. Nginix Unicorn Sinatra MongoMapper MongoDB with only one Nginix instance can feed an almost arbitrary number of Unicorn/Sinatra/MongoMapper instances that can in turn feed a properly configured MongoDB cluster with pre-allocated key distribution so that the incoming inserts are spread evenly against the cluster instances… Even if you do not use ruby that community will have scads of info on scaling MongoDB. One more comment related to L's advice - true you DO NOT want more transactions queued up if your back-end resources cannot handle the TPS - this will just make the issue harder to isolate and potentially make the recovery more difficult. Better to reject the connection at the front-end than take it and blow up the app/system. The beauty of the Nginix/Unicorn solution (Unicorn is ruby specific) is that there is no queue that is feed to the workers when there are no workers - the request is rejected. The unicorn worker model can be reproduced for any other implementation environment (PHP/Perl/C/etc) outside of ruby in about 30 minutes. It's simple and Nginix is very well suited to low overhead reverse proxy to this kind of setup. Wishing you the best - if i can be of more help let me know… RB On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Eduardo Morras wrote: At 20:12 02/01/2012, Muhammet S. AYDIN wrote: Hello everyone. My first post here and I'd like to thank everyone who's involved within the FreeBSD project. We are using FreeBSD on our web servers and we are very happy with it. We have an online messaging application that is using mongodb. Our members send messages to the voice show's (turkish version) contestants. Our two mongodb instances ended up in two centos6 servers. We have failed. So hard. There were announcements and calls made live on tv. We had +30K/sec visitors to the app. When I looked at the mongodb errors, I had thousands of these: http://pastie.org/private/nd681sndos0bednzjea0g. You may be wondering why I'm telling you about centos. Well, we are making the switch from centos to freebsd FreeBSD. I would like to know what are our limits? How we can set it up so our FreeBSD servers can handle min 20K connections (mongodb's connection limit)? Our two servers have 24 core CPUs and 32 GBs of RAM. We are also very open to suggestions. Please help me out here so we don't fail deadly, again. ps. this question was asked in the forums as well however as someone suggested in the forums, i am posting it here too. Is your app limited by cpu or by i/o? What do vmstat/iostat says about your hd usage? Perhaps mongodb fails to read/write fast enough and making process thread pool bigger only will make problem worse, there will be more threads trying to read/write. Have you already tuned
Re: Help Recovering FBSD 8 ZFS System
--As of January 2, 2012 2:14:55 PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson is alleged to have said: Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. However in this case, the controller is a SATA that's integrated into the motherboard. Since two of 4 are working, that would mean the controller is OK, right? I guess I could swap SATA cables for a test. --As for the rest, it is mine. Actually, typically one controller only runs two drives, IIRC. So you could have one bad controller out of two. If swapping cables helps, you may want to try getting a SATA card or something similar. (If swapping cables means you can see the other two drives, a SATA card should mean you'll get all your data back.) Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: Help Recovering FBSD 8 ZFS System
Ladies and gentleman, I will be unplugged from my email until the 17th of January. In the mean time here's a video of a bunny opening your mail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyaRmTwdKs Your mail will not be forwarded and I will contact you when I come back, alternatively you can contact one of the other administrators or email i...@astalavista.com Merry christmas and a happy new year! Best regards, Sykadul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
nss_ldap and the linuxulator
Forwarding to emulation@, which is where the linuxulator gurus hang out (AFAIK). Please keep Da Rock in the Cc: Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 21:59:57 +1000 From: Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: nss_ldap and the linuxulator I've just run into this snag again which I've resolved back in 7.x/8.1: the linuxulator cannot handle nss lookups from ldap. I ran a search for nss_ldap fedora 10 and simply extracted from the rpm the libnss_ldap*.so* in the usr/lib into the corresponding directory under /compat/linux. One then only has to copy or setup the ldap.conf in /compat/linux/etc/ and change /compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf so the it will check files and ldap as in the base. It works a charm when you have issues like the missus with acroread and others not working inexplicably. Run acroread from the command line will give you the clue: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id. This solution does fix this categorically. I hope this helps others, but I do have one question: why isn't this included in the ports already? I still haven't yet figured out cups and printer selection yet, but I have made some progress... :) Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Waay OT Now... FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On 01/03/12 08:10, Mario Lobo wrote: On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: [troll snipper] . perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit driver system from Darwin, perhaps even allowing Darwin drivers to be used on FreeBSD. All of this can go into a kernel module so that if all one uses is native FreeBSD drivers made for FreeBSDs normal driver API, they won't need to load this subsystem. You see, you could have just proposed this in the first place instead of provoking a flame fest, ranting about, mostly imagined, lack of documentation, GUI configuration tools and giving condescending lectures on programmer productivity. Oh well... Right on, Nikola ! But David's paragraph I left in is a real dream for me. It is basicaly what's keeping me from using FBSD as my audio workstation. I have an Echo Gina3D card there is simply no FBSD driver for it. But there are Mac drivers from Echo!. I even too a shot at downloading the framework/API from Echo (windows :( ) but it is just way above me. A colegue from Japan had written a driver for an old Echo Gina 20 bit which I managed to compile and load (believe it or not) but it was for FBSD 5. I tried to compile it on my FBSD 8 STABLE but it issues too much errors that (again) is beyond my capacity. But I'm a stubborn one, so I'll try to keep learning from my mistakes. Maybe one day a new driver for FBSD will be born. Completely off thread now... but I've had success using FBSD as an audio workstation for a recording job. Used Audacity, Rosegarden, hydrogen and Jack with a Yamaha usb soundboard. Midi was an issue though, and I used a linux workstation with Jack using net backend. That was over a year ago, and now I believe there is a jack midi interface for FBSD. Works well, but your hardware sounds like it does differ greatly, sorry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mailing list and personal assaults
On 01/03/12 08:19, Bill Tillman wrote: I agree. A mailing list like this should not fall to the lowest common denominator. And I would like to add that while this community seems to be an exception, far too often someone wastes bandwidth and bytes by telling the person with a question to RTFM. I just finished a rather complicated project which took me days to resolve and several times when I asked questions there was always some wise crack at hand who would make the commen that if you just RTFM everything would be fine. In this case the manuals were lacking and most of the data was obselete or irrelavent to the project I was conductingkind of like FreeBSD documentation. That is unfortunately the case more often then not. There are use cases out there, but a lot of times the description of actually config variables is obscure. I'm hoping to try and fix that, but its on a todo list. I'll post something when I have it up and running. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse motion event holds up the input
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, Yuri wrote: This started from some system update. There are some strange dependencies on mouse motion event. For example, when google is open in chromium and I click on some search choice, it only goes there after I move the mouse, click itself is not enough. Same when I press Ctrl-Alt-F1, it only goes to the black terminal when I move the mouse. Another symptom that I think is related is that doubleclick on the word in konsole in kde4, and in all browsers, isn't selecting the word as it should. I have rebuilt kde4 with all dependencies and it didn't help. What might be the problem? That's (often) a classic problem with setting AllowEmptyInput Off. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Waay OT Now... FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Monday 02 January 2012 20:25:22 Da Rock wrote: On 01/03/12 08:10, Mario Lobo wrote: On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: [troll snipper] . perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit driver system from Darwin, perhaps even allowing Darwin drivers to be used on FreeBSD. All of this can go into a kernel module so that if all one uses is native FreeBSD drivers made for FreeBSDs normal driver API, they won't need to load this subsystem. You see, you could have just proposed this in the first place instead of provoking a flame fest, ranting about, mostly imagined, lack of documentation, GUI configuration tools and giving condescending lectures on programmer productivity. Oh well... Right on, Nikola ! But David's paragraph I left in is a real dream for me. It is basicaly what's keeping me from using FBSD as my audio workstation. I have an Echo Gina3D card there is simply no FBSD driver for it. But there are Mac drivers from Echo!. I even too a shot at downloading the framework/API from Echo (windows :( ) but it is just way above me. A colegue from Japan had written a driver for an old Echo Gina 20 bit which I managed to compile and load (believe it or not) but it was for FBSD 5. I tried to compile it on my FBSD 8 STABLE but it issues too much errors that (again) is beyond my capacity. But I'm a stubborn one, so I'll try to keep learning from my mistakes. Maybe one day a new driver for FBSD will be born. Completely off thread now... but I've had success using FBSD as an audio workstation for a recording job. Humm ... Drivers off-topic in a Kernel Internal documentation discussion? It may be a little off-topic from the OP, but waay OT? Please, allow me to disagree. Used Audacity, Rosegarden, hydrogen and Jack with a Yamaha usb soundboard. Midi was an issue though, and I used a linux workstation with Jack using net backend. That was over a year ago, and now I believe there is a jack midi interface for FBSD. Works well, but your hardware sounds like it does differ greatly, sorry. Yeah! I've done that too (all on FBSD). But I need it to work with a bit higher end cards like the Gina3D for pro-work. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Realtek RTL8191SEvB Linux driver?
I have a Toshiba Satellite U505-S2950 laptop with a Realtek RTL8191SEvB wireless card built in. FreeBSD doesn't recognize this card and can't use it, but Ubuntu does. Would it be possible to go glom a Linux driver off the web someplace and install it in my FreeBSD and get the wireless to work? I'm using a USB Belkin in it now, but that's an unhandy thing sticking out like it does. Thanks, Jeff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems hell-bent on ignoring all but one way to do things, even as it tries to dominate its entire market niche to the extent that it eclipses and marginalizes alternatives. My two cents with other point of view: OSs need popularity; it encourages hardware manufacturers to write drivers and, even better, share the source. That makes the existence of Ubuntu necessary for linux and indirectly to freebsd. To blame Bill or Steve and appeal to the freedom of users is demagogy since the real dictator are the users themselves. Unfortunately, average final user profile is nearer to my mother in law (she obviously uses MS Windows) than people with professional specific needs like you and me. Negate or hide obvious FreeBSD (or Linux) limitations is the same error than making look Ubuntu easier than it really is or worse, make it look like something that it definitely is not. New users feel fooled or betrayed, that's why some of them reacts complaining. Anyway I don't feel confident enough to assure if this is a good or bad marketing strategy. I remember, in a very bad network curse I did some years ago, a young classmate that after seeing for the first time the KDE desktop disappointed exclaimed: But, It is like Windows! I think the better strategy at long term is to be honest. Other point to consider is that the statements done by who initiated this thread are a goal; a goal does not need to be possible to be useful; they are necessary like a projection, like an idea. Walter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd server limits question
Just realized that the MongoDB site now has some recipes up for what you really need to do to make sure you can handle a lot of incoming new documents concurrently…. Boy you had to figure this stuff out yourself just last year - I guess the mongo community has come a very long way…. Splitting Shard Chunks - MongoDB enjoy…. RB On Jan 2, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Robert Boyer wrote: Sorry one more thought and a clarification…. I have found that it is best to run mongos with each app server instance most of the mongo interface libraries aren't intelligent about the way that they distribute requests to available mongos processes. mongos processes are also relatively lightweight and need no coordination or synchronization with each other - simplifies things a lot and makes any potential bugs/complexity with app server/mongo db connection logic just go away. It's pretty important when configuring shards to take on the write volume that you do your best to pre-allocate chunks and avoid chunk migrations during your traffic floods - not hard to do at all. There are also about a million different ways to deal with atomicity (if that is a word) and a very mongo specific way of ensuring writes actually made it to disk somewhere = from your brief description of the app in question it does not sound that it is too critical to ensure every single solitary piece of data persists no matter what as I am assuming most of it is irrelevant and becomes completely irrelevant after the show- or some time there after. Most of the programing and config examples make an opposite assumption in that they assume that each transaction MUST be completely durable - if you forgo that you can get screaming TPS out of a mongo shard. Also if you do not find what you are looking for via a ruby support group - the JS and node JS community also may be of assistance but they tend to have a very narrow view of the world…. ;-) RB On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Robert Boyer wrote: To deal with this kind of traffic you will most likely need to set up a mongo db cluster of more than a few instances… much better. There should be A LOT of info on how to scale mongo to the level you are looking for but most likely you will find that on ruby forums NOT on *NIX boards…. The OS boards/focus will help you with fine tuning but all the fine tuning in the world will not solve an app architecture issue… I have setup MASSIVE mongo/ruby installs for testing that can do this sort of volume with ease… the stack looks something like this…. Nginix Unicorn Sinatra MongoMapper MongoDB with only one Nginix instance can feed an almost arbitrary number of Unicorn/Sinatra/MongoMapper instances that can in turn feed a properly configured MongoDB cluster with pre-allocated key distribution so that the incoming inserts are spread evenly against the cluster instances… Even if you do not use ruby that community will have scads of info on scaling MongoDB. One more comment related to L's advice - true you DO NOT want more transactions queued up if your back-end resources cannot handle the TPS - this will just make the issue harder to isolate and potentially make the recovery more difficult. Better to reject the connection at the front-end than take it and blow up the app/system. The beauty of the Nginix/Unicorn solution (Unicorn is ruby specific) is that there is no queue that is feed to the workers when there are no workers - the request is rejected. The unicorn worker model can be reproduced for any other implementation environment (PHP/Perl/C/etc) outside of ruby in about 30 minutes. It's simple and Nginix is very well suited to low overhead reverse proxy to this kind of setup. Wishing you the best - if i can be of more help let me know… RB On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Eduardo Morras wrote: At 20:12 02/01/2012, Muhammet S. AYDIN wrote: Hello everyone. My first post here and I'd like to thank everyone who's involved within the FreeBSD project. We are using FreeBSD on our web servers and we are very happy with it. We have an online messaging application that is using mongodb. Our members send messages to the voice show's (turkish version) contestants. Our two mongodb instances ended up in two centos6 servers. We have failed. So hard. There were announcements and calls made live on tv. We had +30K/sec visitors to the app. When I looked at the mongodb errors, I had thousands of these: http://pastie.org/private/nd681sndos0bednzjea0g. You may be wondering why I'm telling you about centos. Well, we are making the switch from centos to freebsd FreeBSD. I would like to know what are our limits? How we can set it up so our FreeBSD servers can handle min 20K connections (mongodb's connection limit)? Our two servers have 24 core CPUs and 32 GBs of RAM. We are also very open to suggestions. Please help me out here so we don't fail deadly,
pf not seeing inbound packets on netgraph interface
Hi freebsd-questions, I am running into a roadblock getting PF to filter traffic on a Netgraph interface representing an L2TP/IPSec connection. I have done some narrowing down of the problem, but was hoping to get some advice on figuring out where to go digging next, or things to try. Also, please let me know if I should ask this on another list. For context, here is what I have setup so far: I am running FreeBSD 8.2 with IPSec support compiled into the kernel. Here's the details from uname: # uname -a FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p4 #2: Sun Nov 27 04:12:16 PST 2011 i386 I am following what seems like a typical setup of racoon(8) and setkey(8), and am having mpd5 handle construction of the L2TP nodes in netgraph. I can provide the details on the configuration of each of these, if desired. When I startup racoon in the foreground and ask mpd to construct an L2TP link, I can see both the IPSec tunnel and the L2TP link establish without a problem. I am able to ping the remote end, and, if I set up a routing rule, can contact and ssh to hosts at the other end of the tunnel. Here's how netgraph sees the world when thing are established: # ngctl list There are 13 total nodes: Name: unnamed Type: ksocket ID: 01b3 Num hooks: 1 Name: unnamed Type: l2tpID: 01b1 Num hooks: 3 Name: unnamed Type: socket ID: 01b0 Num hooks: 1 Name: ng0 Type: iface ID: 01b6 Num hooks: 1 Name: ngctl26124 Type: socket ID: 01bd Num hooks: 0 Name: ngctl19375 Type: socket ID: 00ba Num hooks: 0 Name: mpd25875-stats Type: socket ID: 01b8 Num hooks: 0 Name: mpd25875-WPLink-lt Type: tee ID: 01af Num hooks: 2 Name: mpd25875-csoType: socket ID: 01ad Num hooks: 0 Name: mpd25875-esoType: socket ID: 01ae Num hooks: 0 Name: mpd25875-lsoType: socket ID: 01ac Num hooks: 1 Name: mpd25875-WPBundle-1 Type: ppp ID: 01b7 Num hooks: 3 Name: ng0-tee Type: tee ID: 01b9 Num hooks: 2 # The problem I have is that PF only sees traffic on the outbound side of the netgraph interface. But, the rest of the network stack appears to see data going both ways: # ifconfig ng0 ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1322 inet 10.10.7.40 -- 10.10.0.2 netmask 0x # pfctl -vvs Interfaces -i ng0 ng0 Cleared: Sun Dec 25 21:14:44 2011 References: [ States: 0 Rules: 9 ] In4/Pass:[ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] In4/Block: [ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] Out4/Pass: [ Packets: Bytes: 446225 ] Out4/Block: [ Packets: 622Bytes: 56336 ] In6/Pass:[ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] In6/Block: [ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] Out6/Pass: [ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] Out6/Block: [ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] # netstat -I ng0 -bn NameMtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Ibytes Opkts Oerrs Obytes Coll ng01322 Link#8 56 0 0 5069 98 0 6032 0 ng01322 10.10.7.40/32 10.10.7.40 56 - - 5069 54 - 3472 - I have stood up this interface several times, hence the differing numbers between the PF and netstat. The cause for concern is the lack of packets going through PF when inbound on ng0 -- no problem both seeing them and applying rules going outbound. There isn't a peep about the inbound traffic within pflog0, either. I can see traffic going both ways in tcpdump, and nothing looks peculiar about the packets. # tcpdump -c 10 -i ng0 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on ng0, link-type NULL (BSD loopback), capture size 96 bytes 22:06:37.201732 IP 10.10.7.40.43113 10.10.4.3.ssh: Flags [S], seq 3442571726, win 65535, options [mss 1282,nop,wscale 3,sackOK,TS val 694436002 ecr 0], length 0 22:06:37.263336 IP 10.10.4.3.ssh 10.10.7.40.43113: Flags [S.], seq 1974232057, ack 3442571727, win 14480, options [mss 1282,sackOK,TS val 370681934 ecr 694436002,nop,wscale 7], length 0 22:06:37.263577 IP 10.10.7.40.43113 10.10.4.3.ssh: Flags [.], ack 1, win 8255, options [nop,nop,TS val 694436064 ecr 370681934], length 0 22:06:37.282835 IP 10.10.4.3.ssh 10.10.7.40.43113: Flags [P.], ack 1, win 114, options [nop,nop,TS val 370681940 ecr 694436064], length 21 22:06:37.283931 IP 10.10.7.40.43113 10.10.4.3.ssh: Flags [P.], ack 22, win 8255, options [nop,nop,TS val 694436084 ecr 370681940], length 40 22:06:37.300729 IP 10.10.4.3.ssh 10.10.7.40.43113: Flags [.], ack 41, win 114, options
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems hell-bent on ignoring all but one way to do things, even as it tries to dominate its entire market niche to the extent that it eclipses and marginalizes alternatives. My two cents with other point of view: OSs need popularity; it encourages hardware manufacturers to write drivers and, even better, share the source. That makes the existence of Ubuntu necessary for linux and indirectly to freebsd. To blame Bill or Steve and appeal to the freedom of users is demagogy since the real dictator are the users themselves. Unfortunately, average final user profile is nearer to my mother in law (she obviously uses MS Windows) than people with professional specific needs like you and me. Negate or hide obvious FreeBSD (or Linux) limitations is the same error than making look Ubuntu easier than it really is or worse, make it look like something that it definitely is not. New users feel fooled or betrayed, that's why some of them reacts complaining. Anyway I don't feel confident enough to assure if this is a good or bad marketing strategy. I remember, in a very bad network curse I did some years ago, a young classmate that after seeing for the first time the KDE desktop disappointed exclaimed: But, It is like Windows! I think the better strategy at long term is to be honest. Other point to consider is that the statements done by who initiated this thread are a goal; a goal does not need to be possible to be useful; they are necessary like a projection, like an idea. I agree entirely. My bias is toward the attitude and ethics of the corporations themselves- and their CEO's who run them. I believe in honesty, and I hold a grudge against those in marketing management who simply have no concept of truth- with the exception of whoever wrote one of my marketing textbooks (which I may point out was only used once as the powers that be - the so called gurus - promptly withdrew in the next semester. It apparently didn't agree with popular management theory, and was replaced with a 50 year old textbook on the subject). New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of things, and should be warned that they will need to do some work under the hood in order to get what they want. The honesty can start immediately, it doesn't necessarily have to be a goal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Realtek RTL8191SEvB Linux driver?
On 01/03/12 11:15, Jeffrey McFadden wrote: I have a Toshiba Satellite U505-S2950 laptop with a Realtek RTL8191SEvB wireless card built in. FreeBSD doesn't recognize this card and can't use it, but Ubuntu does. Would it be possible to go glom a Linux driver off the web someplace and install it in my FreeBSD and get the wireless to work? I'm using a USB Belkin in it now, but that's an unhandy thing sticking out like it does. Unfortunately the API's are completely different. Adrian Chadd does a lot of work on Wifi in FreeBSD, but I'm not sure if its on the todo list or not. Try a search on google... Sorry I can't help more than that :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pf not seeing inbound packets on netgraph interface
On 01/03/12 16:17, Ed Carrel wrote: Hi freebsd-questions, I am running into a roadblock getting PF to filter traffic on a Netgraph interface representing an L2TP/IPSec connection. I have done some narrowing down of the problem, but was hoping to get some advice on figuring out where to go digging next, or things to try. Also, please let me know if I should ask this on another list. For context, here is what I have setup so far: I am running FreeBSD 8.2 with IPSec support compiled into the kernel. Here's the details from uname: # uname -a FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p4 #2: Sun Nov 27 04:12:16 PST 2011 i386 I am following what seems like a typical setup of racoon(8) and setkey(8), and am having mpd5 handle construction of the L2TP nodes in netgraph. I can provide the details on the configuration of each of these, if desired. When I startup racoon in the foreground and ask mpd to construct an L2TP link, I can see both the IPSec tunnel and the L2TP link establish without a problem. I am able to ping the remote end, and, if I set up a routing rule, can contact and ssh to hosts at the other end of the tunnel. Here's how netgraph sees the world when thing are established: # ngctl list There are 13 total nodes: Name:unnamedType: ksocket ID: 01b3 Num hooks: 1 Name:unnamedType: l2tpID: 01b1 Num hooks: 3 Name:unnamedType: socket ID: 01b0 Num hooks: 1 Name: ng0 Type: iface ID: 01b6 Num hooks: 1 Name: ngctl26124 Type: socket ID: 01bd Num hooks: 0 Name: ngctl19375 Type: socket ID: 00ba Num hooks: 0 Name: mpd25875-stats Type: socket ID: 01b8 Num hooks: 0 Name: mpd25875-WPLink-lt Type: tee ID: 01af Num hooks: 2 Name: mpd25875-csoType: socket ID: 01ad Num hooks: 0 Name: mpd25875-esoType: socket ID: 01ae Num hooks: 0 Name: mpd25875-lsoType: socket ID: 01ac Num hooks: 1 Name: mpd25875-WPBundle-1 Type: ppp ID: 01b7 Num hooks: 3 Name: ng0-tee Type: tee ID: 01b9 Num hooks: 2 # The problem I have is that PF only sees traffic on the outbound side of the netgraph interface. But, the rest of the network stack appears to see data going both ways: # ifconfig ng0 ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1322 inet 10.10.7.40 -- 10.10.0.2 netmask 0x # pfctl -vvs Interfaces -i ng0 ng0 Cleared: Sun Dec 25 21:14:44 2011 References: [ States: 0 Rules: 9 ] In4/Pass:[ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] In4/Block: [ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] Out4/Pass: [ Packets: Bytes: 446225 ] Out4/Block: [ Packets: 622Bytes: 56336 ] In6/Pass:[ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] In6/Block: [ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] Out6/Pass: [ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] Out6/Block: [ Packets: 0 Bytes: 0 ] # netstat -I ng0 -bn NameMtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Ibytes Opkts Oerrs Obytes Coll ng01322Link#8 56 0 0 5069 98 0 6032 0 ng01322 10.10.7.40/32 10.10.7.40 56 - - 5069 54 - 3472 - I have stood up this interface several times, hence the differing numbers between the PF and netstat. The cause for concern is the lack of packets going through PF when inbound on ng0 -- no problem both seeing them and applying rules going outbound. There isn't a peep about the inbound traffic within pflog0, either. I can see traffic going both ways in tcpdump, and nothing looks peculiar about the packets. # tcpdump -c 10 -i ng0 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on ng0, link-type NULL (BSD loopback), capture size 96 bytes 22:06:37.201732 IP 10.10.7.40.43113 10.10.4.3.ssh: Flags [S], seq 3442571726, win 65535, options [mss 1282,nop,wscale 3,sackOK,TS val 694436002 ecr 0], length 0 22:06:37.263336 IP 10.10.4.3.ssh 10.10.7.40.43113: Flags [S.], seq 1974232057, ack 3442571727, win 14480, options [mss 1282,sackOK,TS val 370681934 ecr 694436002,nop,wscale 7], length 0 22:06:37.263577 IP 10.10.7.40.43113 10.10.4.3.ssh: Flags [.], ack 1, win 8255, options [nop,nop,TS val 694436064 ecr 370681934], length 0 22:06:37.282835 IP 10.10.4.3.ssh 10.10.7.40.43113: Flags [P.], ack 1, win 114, options [nop,nop,TS val 370681940 ecr 694436064], length 21 22:06:37.283931 IP 10.10.7.40.43113 10.10.4.3.ssh: Flags [P.], ack 22, win 8255, options [nop,nop,TS val 694436084 ecr 370681940], length 40 22:06:37.300729 IP
Re: Static IP on a Bridge
Hey everyone, Sorry for the late response. Got sidetracked during the New Year. Below is my response: Quoting Benjamin Lee b...@b1c1l1.com: On 12/29/2011 09:21 AM, ja...@colannino.org wrote: Quoting Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk: What's the error message you see when you fail to ping out? ping: cannot resolve google.com: Host name lookup failure It seems that you are currently receiving your resolver from DHCP as well, you should statically configure that in /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver 192.168.1.1 I already have nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf. Everything was fine before I setup the bridge. What does the routing table (netstat -r) look like before and after DHCP? Before DHCP: Routing tables Internet: DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs Use Netif Expire localhost link#11UH 00lo0 [...] What happens if you run 'route add default 192.168.1.1' instead of DHCP? What is the output of '/etc/rc.d/routing restart'? [root@frodo ~]# route add default 192.168.1.1 route: writing to routing socket: Network is unreachable add net default: gateway 192.168.1.1: Network is unreachable [root@frodo ~]# /etc/rc.d/routing restart route: writing to routing socket: No such process delete net default: gateway 192.168.1.1: not in table delete net :::0.0.0.0: gateway ::1 delete net ::0.0.0.0: gateway ::1 delete net fe80::: gateway ::1 delete net ff02::: gateway ::1 ifconfig: interface auto does not exist route: writing to routing socket: Network is unreachable add net default: gateway 192.168.1.1: Network is unreachable add net :::0.0.0.0: gateway ::1 add net ::0.0.0.0: gateway ::1 add net fe80::: gateway ::1 add net ff02::: gateway ::1 James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
