USB system: FreeBSD 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT do not recognize 64GB USB drive while Linux and Windows do

2012-06-22 Thread O. Hartmann
I have a USB drive/stick, Lexar USB Flash drive as reported by FreeBSD
shown below.
When first used, I was able to put approx. 30 GB of data on it - it was
visible to FreeBSD 9 and 10 as expected.
A Linux system at the lab was also capable of recognizing it. After
that, I tried to operate on the stick on a Notebook, FreeBSD 9, and
another station, FreeBSD 10. But FreeBSD didn't recognize the USB drive
anymore - sometimes, but this seems to be a gambling issue :-(

Trying Linux on different hardware platforms and even those machines
prior not recognizing the USB drive do recognize the drive as Lexar USB
Flash drive with 64GB. That is Suse Linux (some 12.XX), that is Ubuntu
12.04, that is Windows 7 Pro/x64. I can format the drive, I can push and
pull data from it.

So, since the USB drive won't work with three different FreeBSD boxes
(one running 9-STABLE, two 10-CURRENT, all systems most recent sources
and buildworld from a day ago).
I suspect either a weird configuration issue I use on all platforms in
questions in common triggering the weird beviour - or FreeBSD is simply
incapable of handling the 64GB drive. I do not have issues with USB
drives with capacities of 32, 8 or 4 GB of different brands.

As shown in the portion of the dmesg below, the USB drive is recognized
physically. It doesn't matter whether USB port I use (I tried all
available on all boxes and in most cases I use a Dell UltraSharp powered
in-screen HUB). Since other OSes handle the drive as expected, I exclude
hardware issues.

All FreeBSD in common is the fact I use the new device ahaci/device ata
CAM/ATA scheme with devcie scbus in the kernel (I use custom kernels!).

Apart from trying a GENERIC kernel (which is next I will do this
weekend), does anyone have similar experiences and probably solutions?

Regards,
oh

ugen7.6: Lexar at usbus7
umass1: Lexar USB Flash Drive, class 0/0, rev 2.00/11.00, addr 6 on usbus7
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted



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Re: Is ZFS production ready?

2012-06-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar


This is a valid argument. Checksumming is used to detect cases where the
disk or the disk controller return invalid data to the CPU. This can happen
for any number of reasons and isn't that unlikely. Unrecoverable read
error probabilities are high enough with common drives that you can
reasonably see them after reading 10-20TB over the course of some small
number of years. And that's assuming no firmware bugs, no flakey cables,
and no other of a variety of potential issues.



this needs scrubbing. Can be done both with ZFS and anything else.
just use dd periodically.


I use ZFS. I like ZFS. But I also acknowledge that a zfs_fsck would be
useful in cases where a filesystem is botched enough that it can't be


but seems you don't have any serious use for ZFS if you can take that risk 
just because you like ZFS.

I cannot.
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Re: Is ZFS production ready?

2012-06-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

OK, if you have 24 2-way mirrors and two drives in the same mirror fail
then with UFS you lose the contents of that mirror. Other filesystems in
the same box are fine. Restores from backups are going to be easy since
the backups are probably arranged to be per-filesystem.


true. i actually don't have 48-disk machine but do have 9 disks (one SSD+8 
2TB SATA).



So far I think we're in agreement.


Still as i said - even with ZFS i would make 24 pools, not one. this thing 
is not filesystem dependent.




But this doesn't address two issues:

1) There are other arrangements of ZFS that can tolerate more failed
  disks if you are willing to spend more money. ZFS supports n-way
  mirrors, so you can have mirrors with three or four disks if you

as well as gmirror.


  a raidz2 set (with multiple raidz2 sets per pool).


i will not use raidz1/2/3 because if catastrophically low performance. the 
design of ZFS makes sure you'll get read performance of single drive from 
whole pool.


Disks are already performance limiting part of computer.


2) That this failure can happen doesn't address the question of the
  production-ready status of ZFS.

The question of production ready is not a boolean. It is a question of


What i meant from beginning is not that ZFS is not yet production ready 
but it will never be because of design decisions.


It have cool features, giving danger, huge hardware usage (RAM,CPU) and 
low I/O performance.



risks and of money used to mitigate those risks. I suggest asking the
question on the zfs-discuss list over at opensolaris.org since there are
probably many more people there who make serious use of ZFS daily.


I will not. Serious people should know how ZFS work. if they still want to 
use it seriuosly then i cannot help any more.



gs1p   159G  73.1G 39 12  2.34M  70.7K
 mirror   159G  73.1G 39 12  2.34M  70.7K
   gpt/CONST_2-9XE02KPK-zfs  -  - 19  5  1.94M  69.4K
   gpt/SAVVIO-6XQ10F80-zfs   -  - 21  5  1.93M  79.5K
   gpt/SAVVIO-6XQ103C7-zfs   -  - 21  5  1.93M  79.5K
100GB+ of FreeBSD being served up (IP 206.196.19.100 if you care to check
FreeBSD's stats pages). And the torrents can be easily replaced if something
really bad happens.


3 very expensive drives.
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Re: USB system: FreeBSD 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT do not recognize 64GB USB drive while Linux and Windows do

2012-06-22 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:01 PM, O. Hartmann
ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
 I have a USB drive/stick, Lexar USB Flash drive as reported by FreeBSD
 shown below.
 When first used, I was able to put approx. 30 GB of data on it - it was
 visible to FreeBSD 9 and 10 as expected.
 A Linux system at the lab was also capable of recognizing it. After
 that, I tried to operate on the stick on a Notebook, FreeBSD 9, and
 another station, FreeBSD 10. But FreeBSD didn't recognize the USB drive
 anymore - sometimes, but this seems to be a gambling issue :-(

 Trying Linux on different hardware platforms and even those machines
 prior not recognizing the USB drive do recognize the drive as Lexar USB
 Flash drive with 64GB. That is Suse Linux (some 12.XX), that is Ubuntu
 12.04, that is Windows 7 Pro/x64. I can format the drive, I can push and
 pull data from it.

 So, since the USB drive won't work with three different FreeBSD boxes
 (one running 9-STABLE, two 10-CURRENT, all systems most recent sources
 and buildworld from a day ago).
 I suspect either a weird configuration issue I use on all platforms in
 questions in common triggering the weird beviour - or FreeBSD is simply
 incapable of handling the 64GB drive. I do not have issues with USB
 drives with capacities of 32, 8 or 4 GB of different brands.

 As shown in the portion of the dmesg below, the USB drive is recognized
 physically. It doesn't matter whether USB port I use (I tried all
 available on all boxes and in most cases I use a Dell UltraSharp powered
 in-screen HUB). Since other OSes handle the drive as expected, I exclude
 hardware issues.

 All FreeBSD in common is the fact I use the new device ahaci/device ata
 CAM/ATA scheme with devcie scbus in the kernel (I use custom kernels!).

 Apart from trying a GENERIC kernel (which is next I will do this
 weekend), does anyone have similar experiences and probably solutions?

I don't personally have any relevant experience with this device,
but having the exact revisions of code where this was working and
where it was failing would be helpful, in order to perform a binary
search to determine whether or not this is a regression.
Thanks,
-Garrett
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Re: USB system: FreeBSD 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT do not recognize 64GB USB drive while Linux and Windows do

2012-06-22 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Friday 22 June 2012 08:01:38 O. Hartmann wrote:
 I have a USB drive/stick, Lexar USB Flash drive as reported by FreeBSD
 shown below.
 When first used, I was able to put approx. 30 GB of data on it - it was
 visible to FreeBSD 9 and 10 as expected.
 A Linux system at the lab was also capable of recognizing it. After
 that, I tried to operate on the stick on a Notebook, FreeBSD 9, and
 another station, FreeBSD 10. But FreeBSD didn't recognize the USB drive
 anymore - sometimes, but this seems to be a gambling issue :-(
 
 Trying Linux on different hardware platforms and even those machines
 prior not recognizing the USB drive do recognize the drive as Lexar USB
 Flash drive with 64GB. That is Suse Linux (some 12.XX), that is Ubuntu
 12.04, that is Windows 7 Pro/x64. I can format the drive, I can push and
 pull data from it.
 
 So, since the USB drive won't work with three different FreeBSD boxes
 (one running 9-STABLE, two 10-CURRENT, all systems most recent sources
 and buildworld from a day ago).
 I suspect either a weird configuration issue I use on all platforms in
 questions in common triggering the weird beviour - or FreeBSD is simply
 incapable of handling the 64GB drive. I do not have issues with USB
 drives with capacities of 32, 8 or 4 GB of different brands.
 
 As shown in the portion of the dmesg below, the USB drive is recognized
 physically. It doesn't matter whether USB port I use (I tried all
 available on all boxes and in most cases I use a Dell UltraSharp powered
 in-screen HUB). Since other OSes handle the drive as expected, I exclude
 hardware issues.
 
 All FreeBSD in common is the fact I use the new device ahaci/device ata
 CAM/ATA scheme with devcie scbus in the kernel (I use custom kernels!).
 
 Apart from trying a GENERIC kernel (which is next I will do this
 weekend), does anyone have similar experiences and probably solutions?
 
 Regards,
 oh
 
 ugen7.6: Lexar at usbus7
 umass1: Lexar USB Flash Drive, class 0/0, rev 2.00/11.00, addr 6 on
 usbus7 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted

Hi,

After plugging the device, try:

usbconfig -d 7.6 add_quirk UQ_MSC_NO_INQUIRY

Then re-plug it.

I'm sorry to say a lot of USB flash sticks out there are broken and only 
tested with the timing of MS Windows. Part of the problem is that it is 
difficult to autodetect these issues, because once you trigger the non-
supported SCSI command, then the flash key stops working like you experience.

I would be more than glad to open up an office to certify USB devices for use 
with FreeBSD :-)

--HPS
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I would see a problem with that -- not because I don't think FreeBSD is
worth it.  I do, and I think it is worth more than that, in fact.  The


true.


biggest problem with what you propose, though, is that it would destroy
the social factors in development of the FreeBSD system that make it what
it is, and thus destroy FreeBSD itself, as far as I am concerned.


I am not sure, as long as clients would be treated seriously!


I would have thought that even you should be able to understand that
without help.

another personal attack? I though i talk with adults.


For paying this i would like FreeBSD to be maintained with quality
and performance being the only reason, not politics.


Turning it into a commercial enterprise rather than an open source
project would probably turn it into a project that is driven about 60% by
corporate politics and 40% by marketing BS, with no room left over for
quality except as needed to support the minimum credibility its CEO deems
necessary to support those two concerns.

It depends solely on development team.

For now - as we see - it's decision are driven by money.
But not all users money but few selected large users.


must be stopped.


You seem to think this is all about Juniper.  I wonder where you get that


Not JUST juniper.


It is only i hate GNU type decision.


No, it's not only that.  It's *also* that, and with good reason.  Good

I hate too, and in spite of this am against removing gcc and
replacing it with much worse product.


Worse based on a couple of very narrowly applicable metrics derived


There will be IMHO soon good compiler available. it's highly probable that 
pcc would improve a lot, for now it is small, quick but doesn't produce 
good code for new CPUs. But it probably will improve.


CLANG is already great bloat, and will be worse.

No amount of money will fix it, actually too much money will hurt.
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Re: USB system: FreeBSD 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT do not recognize 64GB USB drive while Linux and Windows do

2012-06-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

incapable of handling the 64GB drive. I do not have issues with USB


it's not about capacity. But seems some quirks for that pendrive (which 
have buggy firmware) has to be added, as it doesn't respond for inquiry 
command.


sorry i am not USB expert.


umass1: Lexar USB Flash Drive, class 0/0, rev 2.00/11.00, addr 6 on usbus7
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
(probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted



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Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program

2012-06-22 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

Chad Perrin wrote:

Someone in this extended discussion mentioned that there are efforts
underway to make sure the base system will compile cleanly with both
Clang and GCC 4.2+, so I think you're just making up complaints here.
Someone (other than Wojciech Puchar, who would just be talking out of his
ass) correct me if I'm mistaken.


That was me. I don't have pure facts but I read svn logs daily. Today we 
have a bunch of:



r237428 | eadler | 2012-06-22 08:48:53 +0300 (пт, 22 чер 2012) | 5 lines

MFC r237253:
Remove variables which are initialized but never used 
thereafter reported by gcc46 warning


Approved by:cperciva (implicit)

So at least there are some people working on polishing CURRENT/STABLE up 
to the point it will build with gcc46.


--
Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow.
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Re: OT: Robotics or embedded or hardware programming... what is this called?

2012-06-22 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 420, Issue 10, Message: 17
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:54:27 -0600 Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sorry for the off-topic post. There are a lot of technically adept people on
  this list, so I thought I'd try my luck here:

On recent volcanic form, this scarcely measures on the OT scale :)

  I want to get started programming for hardware. Motors, sensors, actuators, 
  etc.
  I have a programming background, (python, PHP, C++) but no experience with 
  code
  that drives hardware. (Motors, sensors, etc.)
  
  I *don't* want closed-source kit robots where the point is to build the 
  robot
  the book and thats it. I also don't want ladder logic-based PMC's. Some kind 
  of
  micro-controller that runs a *nix flavor (or a BSD flavor!) would be great! 
  (If
  that's what I need.) Basically, I want to do stuff like if input1() is True
  then apply_voltage_on_output3(), etc. Build my own traffic light, coffee
  maker, mars rover, automatic-plant waterer, whatever.

Sure.  Fun and potentially profitable stuff.  Wish I had a spare life ..

  What do you call this? Embedded programming? Generic hardware programming?
  Robotics programming? Are there prefabricated, standard embedded boards and
  hardware specs that play together like PC parts do? In short, I don't even 
  know
  where to start.

Try browsing from http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-embedded/ 
to see if that's of interest.  Getting FreeBSD up on various embedded 
platforms is the focus there, but I've seen robotics references too.

I see also, but haven't explored these (both look moderately busy):
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mips/

  Even general pointers to books/websites would be great. Once I know what it's
  called I can google much more effectively ;)

I think once you find a platform you're interested in, you'll google up 
a perhaps bewildering array of support websites and forums, with books 
to suit.  For me it's about the processor instruction set and hardware 
functionality, but I gather you're looking for higher level language 
implementations, so you'll want to sniff and taste a few.

I thought I saw something somewhere (maybe just wishful thinking) about 
FreeBSD on the Arduino, which normally runs a sort of embedded Linux, 
that could be very interesting; the hardware is cheap (kits at Jaycar 
stores in Australia anyway), very modular design, and there are heaps of 
fascinating projects.  I want the quadricopter to follow me around the 
room at parties - at my age I need something really impressive :)

On the FreeBSD side there's advanced work, I gather, on ARM and Atmel 
MEGA 32-bit and MIPS platforms at least.  Personally I consider these 
'big iron' and far prefer writing in macro assembler for little Atmel 
Tiny25s and such, but that's strictly Look Ma, no OS! programming.

cheers, Ian
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Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program

2012-06-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

underway to make sure the base system will compile cleanly with both
Clang and GCC 4.2+, so I think you're just making up complaints here.
Someone (other than Wojciech Puchar, who would just be talking out of his


once again personal attacks  from unhappy childs.


ass) correct me if I'm mistaken.

reported by gcc46 warning

Approved by:cperciva (implicit)

So at least there are some people working on polishing CURRENT/STABLE up to 
the point it will build with gcc46.



sounds good.
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Re: Flaming mailing lists (was Re: Why Clang)

2012-06-22 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Friday 22 June 2012 07:04:35 Bernt Hansson wrote:


 I want to whish all a very mery Midsummer's Eve and Midsummer's Day

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsummer#Sweden

I appreciate the sentiment but it's midwinter here ;)

Jonathan
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:06:12PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 for commercial sponsors of FreeBSD, it has zero bearing on FreeBSD itself. 
 If FreeBSD appears
 as a subsidiary of some commercial company (say Juniper) i am not sure this 
 will be good

 I think any project that size is actually a subsidiary and must be.

 I just don't like that it isn't stated openly! It is nothing wrong,
 unless one can feed using zero point energy, everyone needs money to
 stay alive.

 Wouldn't it be smarter to openly say Juniper request as to get rid
 o GPL as soon as we can because they are fed up with this shit and
 law mess. instead of personal attacks, messing with my (and others)
 sentences and posting evident lies just to explain the decision.

 It is a difference between honest people and fools.

 i already proposed (but not publically) to turn FreeBSD into
 commercial system.

 REALLY i would not see a problem to pay say 100$ per server licence.

from Chad Perrin:

 I would see a problem with that -- not because I don't think FreeBSD is
 worth it.  I do, and I think it is worth more than that, in fact.  The
 biggest problem with what you propose, though, is that it would destroy
 the social factors in development of the FreeBSD system that make it what
 it is, and thus destroy FreeBSD itself, as far as I am concerned.
 Eliminating the copyfree licensed, open source development model of
 FreeBSD would undermine the majority of the technical benefits supported
 by that development model.

 I would have thought that even you should be able to understand that
 without help.

(snip)

Turning FreeBSD into a commercial system would turn a lot of users to other BSD 
or Linux, myself included.

I ran IBM OS/2 from 1.3 to (Warp) 4 until a disk crash in April 2001, after 
which I was never again able to boot any OS/2, and I sure tried.

Closed source was one severe drawback, why I certainly prefer either Linux or 
FreeBSD.

Actually there is a continuation/successor to OS/2, namely eComStation 
(www.ecomstation.com) but no way would I go that way! 

Either Linux or FreeBSD is far ahead now!

There actually is/was a closed-source BSD (BSDI), and there is Mac OS X, with 
BSD under the covers.

Tom

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Could someone help me with Dovecot AD integration PAM setup?

2012-06-22 Thread Kaya Saman
Hi,

I'm trying to authenticate Dovecot to Active Directory using the
SAMBA/Winbind method and so far my setup seems that everything is
working apart from the Dovecot authentication which I believe I have
traced to PAM.

I can login using an AD account using:

wbinfo -K user

# wbinfo -K user
Enter user's password:
plaintext kerberos password authentication for [user] succeeded
(requesting cctype: FILE)


This is the current Dovecot config:


# cat dovecot.conf
# v1.1:
#auth_ntlm_use_winbind = yes
# v1.2+:
auth_use_winbind = yes

auth_winbind_helper_path = /usr/local/bin/ntlm_auth

protocols = imap

# It's nice to have separate log files for Dovecot. You could do this
# by changing syslog configuration also, but this is easier.
log_path = /var/log/dovecot.log
info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot-info.log

# Disable SSL for now.
ssl = no
disable_plaintext_auth = no

# We're using Maildir format
#mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir
mail_location = mbox:/mail:INBOX=/mail/%u

# If you're using POP3, you'll need this:
#pop3_uidl_format = %g

# Authentication configuration:
auth_verbose = yes
auth_debug = yes
auth_username_format = %n
auth_mechanisms = plain ntlm login
userdb {
  driver = static
  args = uid=501 gid=501 home=/mail/%u
  driver = static
}

passdb {
  driver = pam
}



Here is a test login attempt:


# telnet localhost 143
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE
IDLE AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=NTLM AUTH=LOGIN] Dovecot ready.
a login user password
a NO [AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] Authentication failed.
b logout
* BYE Logging out
b OK Logout completed.


- of course the proper credentials were put in.


Here is the details of pam.d/imap:


# cat imap
#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/imap,v 1.7.10.1.6.1 2010/12/21 17:09:25 kensmith Exp $
#
# PAM configuration for the imap service
#

# auth
authsufficient  pam_winbind.so  no_warn
try_first_pass debug
#auth   sufficient  pam_ssh.so  no_warn try_first_pass
authrequiredpam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass

# account
#accountrequiredpam_nologin.so
account requiredpam_unix.so
#accountrequiredpam_winbind.so


I also attempted a change in pam.d/system:


# cat system
#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/system,v 1.1.32.1.6.1 2010/12/21 17:09:25
kensmith Exp $
#
# System-wide defaults
#

# auth
authsufficient  pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_prompts
authrequisite   pam_opieaccess.so   no_warn allow_local
authsufficient  pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass
#auth   sufficient  pam_ssh.so  no_warn try_first_pass
authrequiredpam_unix.so no_warn
try_first_pass nullok

# account
account requiredpam_krb5.so
account requiredpam_login_access.so
account requiredpam_unix.so

# session
#sessionoptionalpam_ssh.so
session requiredpam_lastlog.so  no_fail

# password
passwordsufficient  pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass
passwordrequiredpam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass



Which don't let me login to the Dovecot service :-(



The dovecot.log file shows this:


Jun 20 11:30:40 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4149
uid=0 code=kill)
Jun 20 11:30:48 auth: Fatal: No passdbs specified in configuration
file. LOGIN mechanism needs one
Jun 20 11:30:48 master: Error: service(auth): command startup failed,
throttling for 2 secs
Jun 20 11:30:59 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4182
uid=0 code=kill)
Jun 20 11:31:13 auth: Fatal: No passdbs specified in configuration
file. LOGIN mechanism needs one
Jun 20 11:31:13 master: Error: service(auth): command startup failed,
throttling for 2 secs
Jun 20 11:32:38 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4245
uid=0 code=kill)
Jun 20 11:32:58 imap-login: Warning: Auth connection closed with 1
pending requests (max 0 secs, pid=4265, EOF)
Jun 20 11:32:58 auth: Fatal: master: service(auth): child 4266 killed
with signal 11 (core not dumped - set service auth {
drop_priv_before_exec=yes })
Jun 20 11:46:21 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4318
uid=0 code=kill)
Jun 20 11:46:42 auth-worker(4340): Error: pam(user,127.0.0.1):
pam_authenticate() failed: authentication error (/etc/pam.d/dovecot
missing?)
Jun 20 11:46:55 auth: Error: Got NTLMSSP neg_flags=0xa2088207
Jun 20 11:46:55 auth: Error: Got user=[user] domain=[]
workstation=[WKS-42] len1=24 len2=270
Jun 20 11:46:55 auth: Error: Login for user []\[user]@[WKS-42]
failed due to [Reading winbind reply failed!]
Jun 20 11:49:47 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4400
uid=0 code=kill)
Jun 20 11:49:53 auth: Fatal: passdb imap: Missing host parameter
Jun 20 11:49:53 master: Error: 

Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:16:31 -0500, Wojciech Puchar
 woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.

 This has not been decided in court yet.

In which court not? Of which jurisdiction?

Even if one jurisdiction says something doesn't mean all other
190+ or so countries would agree.

Since we're an international project, better be safe (legally) than
sorry, and avoid GPLv3 when possible.

-cpghost.

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question about prblem with raid 1 for freeBSD

2012-06-22 Thread dude golden
HI there,

hope my email find you well, i recently order a server with below configuration 

INTEL
1x Quad-Core i5-2500 3.3GHz, 6M Cache
16GB DDR3
2x 500GB SATAII

then ask from my COLOCATION to install FreeBSD 8.2 or 8.3 with RAID 1, after 
many times of fail in installation from colocation they said that we have 
problem with RAID 1.we suggest them to play with different kind of RAID like 
RAID 5 and they said as our requested server only have 2 HDD, its not possible 
to set up RAID 5.

now they said us that the only way for having backup of DATA in this condition 
is set up a scheduled task to put back up of data in the second HDD .



now i really need to know if there is a only way for having data back up in 
this condition or you have better idea according to your experience.also if its 
the only way , would it be a good level of data security ?


looking forward to hear from your side soon.

Regards,

Smartelcom Team 
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Re: question about prblem with raid 1 for freeBSD

2012-06-22 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 6/22/12 11:11 AM, dude golden wrote:
 HI there,
 
 hope my email find you well, i recently order a server with below 
 configuration 
 
 INTEL
 1x Quad-Core i5-2500 3.3GHz, 6M Cache
 16GB DDR3
 2x 500GB SATAII
 
 then ask from my COLOCATION to install FreeBSD 8.2 or 8.3 with RAID 1, after 
 many times of fail in installation from colocation they said that we have 
 problem with RAID 1.we suggest them to play with different kind of RAID like 
 RAID 5 and they said as our requested server only have 2 HDD, its not 
 possible to set up RAID 5.
 
 now they said us that the only way for having backup of DATA in this 
 condition is set up a scheduled task to put back up of data in the second HDD 
 .
 
 
 
 now i really need to know if there is a only way for having data back up in 
 this condition or you have better idea according to your experience.also if 
 its the only way , would it be a good level of data security ?
 
 
 looking forward to hear from your side soon.
 
 Regards,
 
 Smartelcom Team  


Hi,


Your colleagues are correct about the RAID levels, you can only do RAID5
with a minimum of 3 disks.

Your available options with 2 disks are JBOD, RAID0 or RAID1.

You obviously want RAID1.



How have they tried to install the server ?

I've had no problems ever installing 8.2 or 8.3 as a RAID using either
gmirror, or hardware RAID.

Does the server have a hardware RAID controller or are you trying
software RAID ?

Do you have remote console access to the server ?

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Re: question about prblem with raid 1 for freeBSD

2012-06-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 22/06/2012 10:11, dude golden wrote:
 INTEL
 1x Quad-Core i5-2500 3.3GHz, 6M Cache
 16GB DDR3
 2x 500GB SATAII

 then ask from my COLOCATION to install FreeBSD 8.2 or 8.3 with RAID
 1, after many times of fail in installation from colocation they said
 that we have problem with RAID 1.we suggest them to play with
 different kind of RAID like RAID 5 and they said as our requested
 server only have 2 HDD, its not possible to set up RAID 5.

Correct.  RAID5 requires at least 3 drives. The only way to have
resilience against disk failure with just two drives is to use RAID1
(mirroring).

How exactly are your colleagues attempting to set up RAID1.  There are
several different ways of doing it, but these are the most popular:

   * Using the built-in ATAPI RAID provided by many motherboards

   * gmirror

   * ZFS

ATAPI RAID is perhaps the least effective, and may require downtime in
order to rebuild the system after a disk failure.  I suspect this is
what is causing your colleagues problems.

For setting up a gmirror RAID see this article:

  http://onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html

(That will work fine with 8.2 or older and the old sysinstall; needs to
be adapted if using the new bsdinstall with gpart)

For setting up a ZFS mirror, see:

  http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror

or I wrote a similar piece assuming use of bsdinstall:

  http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/articles/install-on-zfs/

Both of the gmirror or ZFS procedures involve going beyond what the
installer provides and doing at least part of the work from the command
line.  If that is too scary to contemplate, then try using the PC-BSD
installer to install FreeBSD -- it lets you set up mirrors or ZFS from a
menu system, and can install plain FreeBSD as well as PC-BSD:

  http://www.pcbsd.org/index.php?option=com_zooview=itemItemid=98

 now they said us that the only way for having backup of DATA in this
 condition is set up a scheduled task to put back up of data in the
 second HDD .

Well, this is really unsatisfactory and your colleagues should be ashamed.

First of all, RAID1 is not *backup*.  If you accidentally delete a file,
it will be removed from both of the mirrored drives.  The thing that
RAID1 gets you is resilience to disk failure: one of your drives going
'pop' will not result in the system crashing or any service interruption.

Backup of the system should be arranged through some other means: there
are many programs available to do the job in the base system or the
ports -- personally I like tarsnap, which will backup your data to the
cloud (Amazon flavoured cloud, that is) for a very reasonable rate.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Jun 21 06:07:49 2012
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:06:12 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr
 Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kpn...@pobox.com
 Subject: Re: Why Clang

  for commercial sponsors of FreeBSD, it has zero bearing on FreeBSD itself. 
  If FreeBSD appears
  as a subsidiary of some commercial company (say Juniper) i am not sure this 
  will be good

 I think any project that size is actually a subsidiary and must be.

Which simply proves you don't know what you don't know.

 I just don't like that it isn't stated openly! 

No one on the Project would consider lying about such things, just to make
Wojciech happy.

 instead of personal attacks, messing with my (and others) sentences and 
 posting evident lies just to explain the decision.

Maybe when you stop lying about what the others say.

 It is a difference between honest people and fools.

You have made it clear that -you- are a name-calling fool.
People have tried to explain, clearly, and politely, the *multiple*
factors that went into the decision.  You ignore everything else,
and fixate on the one that seems specious to you.

 There is nothing to prevent giving source with system. Non-Free software 
 doesn't have to be binary only.

Nice strawman.   But you cannot show where anybody has claimed it did.

 For paying this i would like FreeBSD to be maintained with quality and 
 performance being the only reason, not politics.

A demonstrable lie -- the only thing you care about is speed of execution.

 Nothing against Juniper (the make truly good working hardware), but if 
 they enforce decision because of their personal likes then it must be 
 stopped.

Therefore, _your_ attempts to enforce decisions because of your personal
likes must be stopped.

 GPLv3 based C compiler does not prevent making closed source software like 
 JunOS for example.

You don't _know_ that.  It is only your -opinion-.  How much of a financial
bond are you willing to put up, payable to, say, Juniper, if they rely on
your _opinion_, and it turns out to be wrong?`

 It is only i hate GNU type decision.

You lie.

 I hate too, and in spite of this am against removing gcc and replacing it 
 with much worse product.

Your closed--mind bias is showing.  You think it's ok to get _wrong_ answers
rather than correct answers, if you get the wrong answeers faster and the
correct answers somewhat slower.  GCC, even 4.21., is well known for 
generating bad code -- meaning 'logically incorrect and gives wrong 
answers', and sometimes 'code that cannot be successfully executed'  -- e.g.
it always segfaults or has some other fatal exception -- under a number of
conditions.  The variety of such instances increases with vritually -every-
minor upgrade' to the compiler.  Code that worked under minor release 'x',
not work under x+1, because 'yet another' of these 'features' crept in..
There are known bugs of this sort in GCC that have been identified for 
over a -decade-.  But, the GCC source-code is such a swamp that *nobody* 
has been able to figure out, or find, *where* the problem is occurring --
let alone determine what needs to be changed, to fix it.


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Re: Is ZFS production ready?

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Jun 21 06:18:56 2012
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:03:12 +0430
 From: Hooman Fazaeli hoomanfaza...@gmail.com
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Is ZFS production ready?

 Dear community

 In the past, I built a 8TB ZFS log server on freebsd 7.4.
 However, the system  experienced instablility after long up times.
 My main motive to use ZFS was UFS inability to support large
 file systems.

 Now, I want to the same thing on 8.3 and wanted to know
 your opinion on ZFS stability. Is there any success story using
 ZFS in 24x7, large volume, heavy duty servers? Is there any
 other option other than ZFS to build larger than 2TB file systems?

One alternative might be the 'new, improved' UFS -- UFS2.

I believe it supports filesystems up to 2^73 bytes (2^64 sectors).


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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:06:12PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  i already proposed (but not publically) to turn FreeBSD into
  commercial system.
  
  REALLY i would not see a problem to pay say 100$ per server licence.
 
 I would see a problem with that -- not because I don't think FreeBSD is
 worth it.  I do, and I think it is worth more than that, in fact.  The
 biggest problem with what you propose, though, is that it would destroy

Hi Chad etc,
I admire the perserverance, but maybe Don't feed the troll ?

Cheers,
Julian
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 Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script,  indent with  .
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Re: Is ZFS production ready?

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi

Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  wrote:`
 Subject: Re: Is ZFS production ready?

 stick with UFS. It JUST WORKS(R), and is trusty.
 And it works fast.

Be sure to descrirbe how that is even _possible_, given that the OP needs/
wants larger than 2tb filesystems.


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Re: problem with RAID 1 and requesting for solutions

2012-06-22 Thread shahram haghnia
Dear Sir/Madam,

Iam really appreciate if you take a look into below email and advise me any
update.




On 6/16/12 7:01 PM, info smartelcom i...@smartelcom.net wrote:

 HI there,
 
 hope my email find you well, i recently order a server with below
 configuration 
 
 INTEL
 1x Quad-Core i5-2500 3.3GHz, 6M Cache
 16GB DDR3
 2x 500GB SATAII
 
 then ask from my COLOCATION to install FreeBSD 8.2 or 8.3 with RAID 1, after
 many times of fail in installation from colocation they said that we have
 problem with RAID 1.we suggest them to play with different kind of RAID like
 RAID 5 and they said as our requested server only have 2 HDD, its not possible
 to set up RAID 5.
 
 now they said us that the only way for having backup of DATA in this condition
 is set up a scheduled task to put back up of data in the second HDD .
 
 
 
 now i really need to know if there is a only way for having data back up in
 this condition or you have better idea according to your experience.also if
 its the only way , would it be a good level of data security ?
 
 
 looking forward to hear from your side soon.
 
 Regards,
 
 Smartelcom Team  
 
 
 
 




Regards

Shahram Haghnia
Technical Director

Smartelcom Communications
Global Wholesale Services



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Re: Is ZFS production ready?

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Jun 21 11:50:42 2012
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:47:30 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: Matthias Gamsjager mgamsja...@gmail.com
 Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Is ZFS production ready?

 
  True but this applies as much to you. You think you know it all and that is 
  quite the probdlem with you.
  And  discussing with you is a true waste with this attittute. Even its 
  free.
 
 so stop it.

If you don't have something to say, don't say it.
  --- the immortal words of Wojcciec


It's a shame tou don't practice wyat you preach, troll.
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  
  We put clang because sponsors wanted it.
  
 
 
  Sponsors didn't want clang. Sponsors wanted not to be encumbered by a GPLv3 
 they are not.
 programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.

You don't know what you don't know, trollboi.

Anything so much as -linked- with a libarary that is under GPLv3, *IS* 
subject to GPLv3 terms, -unless- the library has an express exclusion 


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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi

 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Jun 21 12:37:00 2012
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:30:40 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Why Clang

 z woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 
  programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
 
  This has not been decided in court yet.


 sources please!

Easy!  Here is the complete list of court rulings on the matter:

[end of list]
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Jun 21 12:39:02 2012
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:30:23 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: Robison, Dave david.robi...@fisglobal.com
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Why Clang

  Because there's no reason to do that. It's an asinine suggestion.
 
  Clang is here to stay. Most of us are happy about that decision. GCC

 Because most that are not already stopped and ignored thing. and use GCC.

 Politics won.

Liar.   *Quality*, mantainability, and standards compliance won.
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Jun 21 12:44:17 2012
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:36:03 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Why Clang

  
  sources please!
 
  Google GPLv3 court case. There are no applicable results. Until a Judge 
  decides what the license truly means everyone using it is at risk.

 true.

 But why anyone from FreeBSD fundation didn't just write official letter 
 to GNU Free Software Foundation asking for just that case?

Because it doesn't address an of the *OTHER* valid reasons why GCC is
being replaced -- among them:
  1) GCC's continuously increasing propensity to generate bad code,
  2) The inability of GCC mamintainers to fix _long-standing_ bugs, some
 have been identified for over a decade, and have not been fixed.
  3) The continuously increasing trend of introducing 'non standard' features,
  4) The growing need to 'write around' correct/valid code that GCC will not 
 compile.
  5) The fact that the GCC code is 'unmaintainable' -- *NO*ONE* (other than 
 someone who has been working with GCC internals for forever --a decade
 at an absolute minimum) has any chance of 'understanding' what it is
 doing internally.

GPLv3 concerns are 'incidental' to those 'fundamental' issues.  It may have
been the straw that broke the camel's back, but there were lots of other
VALID reasons to trashcan GCC.

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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Jun 21 12:46:15 2012
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:37:48 -0500
 From: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
 Cc: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 Subject: Re: Why Clang

 On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:36:03 -0500, Wojciech Puchar  
 woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 
  But why anyone from FreeBSD fundation didn't just write official letter  
  to GNU Free Software Foundation asking for just that case?

 There needs to be a lawsuit and lawyers and judges need to be involved.  
 You can't just ask the FSF to explain themselves.

You _can_ ask.  The response just doesn't 'mean anything' -- the actual
language of the 'license' takes precedence.
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Re: OT: Robotics or embedded or hardware programming... what is this called?

2012-06-22 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote:


I thought I saw something somewhere (maybe just wishful thinking) about
FreeBSD on the Arduino, which normally runs a sort of embedded Linux,
that could be very interesting; the hardware is cheap (kits at Jaycar
stores in Australia anyway), very modular design, and there are heaps of
fascinating projects.  I want the quadricopter to follow me around the
room at parties - at my age I need something really impressive :)


Well, there is devel/arduino.  It's not emdedded Linux, but an IDE for 
writing and downloading code.  The Arduino is a small embedded 
controller based on the Atmel AVR microcontrollers.  They are quite 
powerful, easy to program, and accessible for experimenters.  You can 
skip the Arduino environment if you like, using the same lower-level 
tools like avr-gcc directly.  And the Arduino board can be used as a 
programmer, downloading code to plain AVR chips and avoiding the need 
for more Arduino boards.  Talk about the Arduino on FreeBSD is generally 
on the freebsd-embedded mailing list.


The Microchip PIC microcontrollers compete with the AVR.  There are some 
FreeBSD ports for programming those, but there are many varying chips 
and the hardware needed to program some of them differs.  I don't know 
if there is anything directly comparable to the Arduino IDE.  ARM 
processors have become so cheap that they are starting to compete in 
this arena also.



On the FreeBSD side there's advanced work, I gather, on ARM and Atmel
MEGA 32-bit and MIPS platforms at least.  Personally I consider these
'big iron' and far prefer writing in macro assembler for little Atmel
Tiny25s and such, but that's strictly Look Ma, no OS! programming.


Another option: the freebsd-wireless list has had some very interesting 
traffic about the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND, a $50 MIPS-based wireless router 
with Atheros 802.11n chipset, USB, and gigabit Ethernet which can run 
FreeBSD directly.  Not sure how usable it is at present.

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Problem with routing in VmWare VMS

2012-06-22 Thread UNIX developer @ Google.com
Thank you, Mark!
All work!


-
Вы писали 22 июня 2012 г., 16:31:39:

 On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:10:43 -0500, UNIX developer @ Google.com  
 developeru...@gmail.com wrote:

 now after reboot the problem still the same.
 ping -S 192.168.2.1 192.168.1.1
 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) from 192.168.2.1: 56 data bytes
 ^C
 --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
 8 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

 192.168.1.1 does not know how to find 192.168.2.1, so it can't respond to
 the ping. I bet it only has a default route to the internet. If you add a
 static route on 192.168.1.1 telling it that it can find 192.168.2.0/24 at
 192.168.1.10 it will probably work.


 On 192.168.1.1:

 route add -net 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.1.10

 Now the pings will work.


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Re: Problem with routing in VmWare VMS

2012-06-22 Thread Alexandre
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, UNIX developer @ Google.com 
developeru...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, I understud!
 I remove from rc.conf this rows:
 static_routes=clnet
 route_clnet=-net 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.1.10

 new rc.conf:
 ifconfig_em0= inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
 ifconfig_em1= inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
 defaultrouter=192.168.1.1
 gateway_enable=YES


 now after reboot the problem still the same.

  ping -S 192.168.2.1 192.168.1.1
 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) from 192.168.2.1: 56 data bytes
 ^C
 --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
 8 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss


 netstat -nr
 Routing tables

 Internet:
 DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
 default192.168.1.1UGS 0   38em0
 127.0.0.1  link#4 UH  00lo0
 192.168.1.0/24 link#1 U   0 1153em0
 192.168.1.10   link#1 UHS 06lo0
 192.168.2.0/24 link#2 U   00em1
 192.168.2.1link#2 UHS 06lo0

 Where more can be trouble?


 -
 Вы писали 22 июня 2012 г., 0:56:49:

  On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:59:36 -0500, UNIX developer @ Google.com
  developeru...@gmail.com wrote:

  /etc/rc.conf
  ifconfig_em0= inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
  ifconfig_em1= inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
  defaultrouter=192.168.1.1
  gateway_enable=YES
  static_routes=clnet
  route_clnet=-net 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.1.10

  You simply CANNOT do this. Traffic for 192.168.2.0/24 is bound to em1
 and
  cannot be changed. You setup a static route that basically says to find
  192.168.2.0/24, don't use em1 but instead ask 192.168.1.10 how to find
 it?

  This makes no sense at all.


 --
 С уважением,
  UNIX  mailto:developeru...@gmail.com

Hi,
Your problem, as Mark told you, is that you are buildinga gateway to
connect two networks on the same subnet.

Regards,
Alexandre
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Reid Linnemann
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 I disagree with the assessment by others that FreeBSD is in some way
 effectively a subsidiary of its corporate users, but it does have
 corporate users, as well as non-corporate users.  Just as it must
 reasonably see to the needs of the individuals who use it, so must it
 also reasonably see to the needs of those corporate users, especially
 when some of those corporate users' employees are key developers for the
 base system (to the significant benefit of the rest of us).  Thus, saying
 that a particular set of conditions having an impact on commercial
 sponsors of FreeBSD has zero bearing on FreeBSD itself is just . . .
 incorrect.

And I would like to stress on this point that, when I referred to
corporate sponsorship in an earlier post, I was thinking specifically
about the sponsorship of employing developers that keep the system
moving forward, not necessarily monetary donations. The foundation
does need money, but the software is doomed if no one is gainfully
employed to maintain and enhance it. I think there is an altruistic
fiction that many people subscribe to that free software is merely the
result of the generosity of developers producing code of their own
volition and on their own spare time and giving it away, and from
that viewpoint the act of considering concerns of a sponsoring entity
amounts to selling out. The reality is much different and much more
complex, as you well know.
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Because it doesn't address an of the *OTHER* valid reasons why GCC is
being replaced -- among them:
 1) GCC's continuously increasing propensity to generate bad code,


examples? All test shows that gcc code is not only bad, but very good. Why 
are you just saying things you know isn't true?




 2) The inability of GCC mamintainers to fix _long-standing_ bugs, some
have been identified for over a decade, and have not been fixed.


That's true. still not that much.


 3) The continuously increasing trend of introducing 'non standard' features,

No need to use them.

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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

Wojciech Puchar wrote:

Because it doesn't address an of the *OTHER* valid reasons why GCC is
being replaced -- among them:
1) GCC's continuously increasing propensity to generate bad code,


examples? All test shows that gcc code is not only bad, but very good.
Why are you just saying things you know isn't true?


0k, what if I add my example?

Hardware:
Processor: Intel Xeon E5620 (16 Cores), Motherboard: Supermicro X8DT3 
1234567890, Memory: 24576MB, Disk: SEAGATE ST3146855SS S527 + SEAGATE 
ST31000640SS 0001 + SEAGATE ST31000640SS 0001 + SEAGATE ST3146855SS S528 
+ TOSHIBA Trans 1.00 + TEAC DV-28S-V 1.0B


Software:
OS: FreeBSD, Kernel: 9.0-RELEASE-p3 (x86_64), Compiler: GCC 4.2.1 
20070831 + Clang 3.0 (SVN 142614), File-System: zfs


CPUTYPE=core2

clang 3.0
Test project /tmp/ports/usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.5.11
Start 1: pngtest
1/2 Test #1: pngtest ..   Passed0.02 sec
Start 2: pngvalid
2/2 Test #2: pngvalid .   Passed   14.03 sec

gcc 4.6 (lang/gcc, USE_GCC=4.6+)
Test project /tmp/ports/usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.5.11
Start 1: pngtest
1/2 Test #1: pngtest ..   Passed0.02 sec
Start 2: pngvalid
2/2 Test #2: pngvalid .   Passed   14.40 sec

gcc 4.2.1
Test project /tmp/ports/usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.5.11
Start 1: pngtest
1/2 Test #1: pngtest ..   Passed0.02 sec
Start 2: pngvalid
2/2 Test #2: pngvalid .   Passed   14.96 sec

This one shows that clang is superior to both gcc 4.2.1 and gcc 4.6.

I haven't test data now but a month or so ago I tested them on one of 
the Alioth Shootout examples (nestedloop probably). gcc 4.2.1 was 
winning, clang was close with fractions of percent drop of speed but gcc 
4.6 was off for nearly 7%.



3) The continuously increasing trend of introducing 'non standard'
features,

No need to use them.


There's no 'Unsubscribe me' link included...

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Re: Could someone help me with Dovecot AD integration PAM setup?

2012-06-22 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Jun 22, 2012 1:45 AM, Kaya Saman kayasa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm trying to authenticate Dovecot to Active Directory using the
 SAMBA/Winbind method and so far my setup seems that everything is
 working apart from the Dovecot authentication which I believe I have
 traced to PAM.

 I can login using an AD account using:

 wbinfo -K user

 # wbinfo -K user
 Enter user's password:
 plaintext kerberos password authentication for [user] succeeded
 (requesting cctype: FILE)


 This is the current Dovecot config:


 # cat dovecot.conf
 # v1.1:
 #auth_ntlm_use_winbind = yes
 # v1.2+:
 auth_use_winbind = yes

 auth_winbind_helper_path = /usr/local/bin/ntlm_auth

 protocols = imap

 # It's nice to have separate log files for Dovecot. You could do this
 # by changing syslog configuration also, but this is easier.
 log_path = /var/log/dovecot.log
 info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot-info.log

 # Disable SSL for now.
 ssl = no
 disable_plaintext_auth = no

 # We're using Maildir format
 #mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir
 mail_location = mbox:/mail:INBOX=/mail/%u

 # If you're using POP3, you'll need this:
 #pop3_uidl_format = %g

 # Authentication configuration:
 auth_verbose = yes
 auth_debug = yes
 auth_username_format = %n
 auth_mechanisms = plain ntlm login
 userdb {
  driver = static
  args = uid=501 gid=501 home=/mail/%u
  driver = static
 }

 passdb {
  driver = pam
 }



 Here is a test login attempt:


 # telnet localhost 143
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE
 IDLE AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=NTLM AUTH=LOGIN] Dovecot ready.
 a login user password
 a NO [AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] Authentication failed.
 b logout
 * BYE Logging out
 b OK Logout completed.


 - of course the proper credentials were put in.


 Here is the details of pam.d/imap:


 # cat imap
 #
 # $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/imap,v 1.7.10.1.6.1 2010/12/21 17:09:25
kensmith Exp $
 #
 # PAM configuration for the imap service
 #

 # auth
 authsufficient  pam_winbind.so  no_warn
 try_first_pass debug
 #auth   sufficient  pam_ssh.so  no_warn
try_first_pass
 authrequiredpam_unix.so no_warn
try_first_pass

 # account
 #accountrequiredpam_nologin.so
 account requiredpam_unix.so
 #accountrequiredpam_winbind.so


 I also attempted a change in pam.d/system:


 # cat system
 #
 # $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/system,v 1.1.32.1.6.1 2010/12/21 17:09:25
 kensmith Exp $
 #
 # System-wide defaults
 #

 # auth
 authsufficient  pam_opie.so no_warn
no_fake_prompts
 authrequisite   pam_opieaccess.so   no_warn
allow_local
 authsufficient  pam_krb5.so no_warn
try_first_pass
 #auth   sufficient  pam_ssh.so  no_warn
try_first_pass
 authrequiredpam_unix.so no_warn
 try_first_pass nullok

 # account
 account requiredpam_krb5.so
 account requiredpam_login_access.so
 account requiredpam_unix.so

 # session
 #sessionoptionalpam_ssh.so
 session requiredpam_lastlog.so  no_fail

 # password
 passwordsufficient  pam_krb5.so no_warn
try_first_pass
 passwordrequiredpam_unix.so no_warn
try_first_pass



 Which don't let me login to the Dovecot service :-(



 The dovecot.log file shows this:


 Jun 20 11:30:40 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4149
 uid=0 code=kill)
 Jun 20 11:30:48 auth: Fatal: No passdbs specified in configuration
 file. LOGIN mechanism needs one
 Jun 20 11:30:48 master: Error: service(auth): command startup failed,
 throttling for 2 secs
 Jun 20 11:30:59 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4182
 uid=0 code=kill)
 Jun 20 11:31:13 auth: Fatal: No passdbs specified in configuration
 file. LOGIN mechanism needs one
 Jun 20 11:31:13 master: Error: service(auth): command startup failed,
 throttling for 2 secs
 Jun 20 11:32:38 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4245
 uid=0 code=kill)
 Jun 20 11:32:58 imap-login: Warning: Auth connection closed with 1
 pending requests (max 0 secs, pid=4265, EOF)
 Jun 20 11:32:58 auth: Fatal: master: service(auth): child 4266 killed
 with signal 11 (core not dumped - set service auth {
 drop_priv_before_exec=yes })
 Jun 20 11:46:21 master: Warning: Killed with signal 15 (by pid=4318
 uid=0 code=kill)
 Jun 20 11:46:42 auth-worker(4340): Error: pam(user,127.0.0.1):
 pam_authenticate() failed: authentication error (/etc/pam.d/dovecot
 missing?)
 Jun 20 11:46:55 auth: Error: Got NTLMSSP neg_flags=0xa2088207
 Jun 20 11:46:55 auth: Error: Got user=[user] domain=[]
 workstation=[WKS-42] len1=24 len2=270
 Jun 20 11:46:55 auth: Error: Login for user []\[user]@[WKS-42]
 failed due to [Reading winbind reply 

backup tools

2012-06-22 Thread Chad Perrin
I'm setting up a new backup server using FreeBSD.  It will be used for
backing up laptops, which will not be connected to the network by any
kind of schedule, so backups will be initiated manually rather than by
cron or other scheduled procedures.  I'm trying to decide on what tools
to use for managing backups.  In the past I have used rsync, which has
worked reasonably well, but fails one of my desired criteria for the new
backup procedures, and is less than ideal for others.

My criteria for procedures are:

1. They should minimize the need for additional software beyond the base
system as much as reasonably possible.  This means not only that I do not
want to have to specify the installation of a bunch of stuff, but also
that I do not want a bunch of dependencies pulled in with something I
choose to install (if anything).  Ideally, I should be able to do this
with just the base system, though that seems unlikely at this point.

2. They should require only copyfree licensed or public domain tools --
no copyleft licensed tools, no proprietary licensed tools, no
noncommercial or nonderivative licensed tools, and no permissively
licensed tools where the license comes with annoying restrictions such as
the Apache License requirements for specific bookkeeping procedures.  I
might bend on the requirement for non-copyfree permissive licenses if I
have to, but I'd rather not; bending on any of the others would probably
involve just giving up and going back to rsync.

3. They should provide for incremental backups.

4. They should provide for the ability to quickly and easily test backup
integrity without restoring the backups anywhere, which most likely means
some kind of checksum comparisons akin to what rsync provides.

5. They should allow for transferring data from the system to be backed
up to the backup server via SSH.

6. They should use tools as simple as possible, preferably command line
tools.

7. There should be documentation somewhere out there for how to set
something like this up, someone willing to help me figure out how to get
it set up, or an obvious path to setting it up so that I do not spend a
week just figuring it all out, if at all possible.

8. They should preferably not require creating a local archive on the
laptop before copying to the backup server if it can reasonably be
avoided, so that a big chunk of empty HDD space will not need to be
maintained for backups to work.

Any help figuring out what tools would work for these purposes would be
appreciated.  I might be able to make exceptions for some parts of this
if there are suitable alternative approaches.

Thanks in advance for any help I can get in figuring this out.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Mark Felder
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:25:55 -0500, Wojciech Puchar  
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:


examples? All test shows that gcc code is not only bad, but very good.  
Why are you just saying things you know isn't true?


Fast code is not guaranteed to be correct code.
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Re: New to FreeBSD - Some questions

2012-06-22 Thread Eitan Adler
On 21 June 2012 04:24, Fred Morcos fred.mor...@gmail.com wrote:

                     Introduction and background
 q) Is it possible to run a FreeBSD system without much building? In
 other words, can I survive by depending on packages and only resorting
 to ports when really needed?

To an extent. It is currently possible to use only packages, but they
tend to be out of date and upgrading is non-easy without a third party
tool (such as portmaster or portupgrade).
There is currently active work to fix these issues in a project called
pkgng. This will likely become the default in the next couple of
months.

 q) Where does the FreeBSD project stand on this matter? From what I
 noticed is that the base system seems to adhere to the tranditional
 flat text files for configuration and simple tools that do a good job,
 leaving it up to the user to combine those small tools to create
 larger, more complex ones (a UNIX inheritance).

FreeBSD tends to be conservative. The project won't implement a
complex daemon without clear benefits and specific discussion on the
pros and cons.

 q) Is a FreeBSD stable base system with current high-level
 components possible? Will it avoid the issues I experienced on
 Linux-based systems?

Generally, yes. There will likely be some adjustment period as you
learn how FreeBSD works, but most people have few problems.

 q) I would assume UFS with J+SU is fast enough for a laptop?

Yes. Most people call it SU+J ;).
Don't use it for an SSD though

 q) Does ZFS make sense on a laptop? Any advantages of using it over
 USF with J+SU? I am not interested in any striping or mirroring on
 the laptops, but the compression features is very attractive for the
 HDDs in the first laptop.

ZFS is ram hog. How much ram does your laptop have?

 q) The second laptop has an SSD, would UFS with/without J and
 with/without SU or ZFS make more sense for it?

Make sure to enable TRIM support if your SSD supports it.

 q) Can I live with a desktop environment (Gnome or KDE) and desktop
 applications (Firefox, Libreoffice, etc) by relying only on packages?

Sort of. With pkgng this will become a lot easier.  If you are
currently willing to deal with out of date packages until pkgng
becomes default (or want to work with non-default technology now) it
will be possible.

 q) Does the NVIDIA binary driver work reliably? I would like to hear
 personal experiences with that.

Yes. This has never been the cause of any problem for me

 q) Does the bsdinstall align partitions to device blocks by default
 for optimal speed? If not, I have found that I can use gpart with -a
 and -b which will require me to calculate the start and end offsets of
 each partition manually. Is there a tool that can automatically do
 that for me?

You said you had an SSD: it doesn't matter.

 q) Adding tmpmfs=YES to /etc/rc.conf is analogous to a tmpfs /tmp on
 Linux-based systems, correct?

Yes.

 Any other directories that might make
 sense to have as an mfs (ie, in /var)?

Don't use tmpfs for anything in /var

 q) Is there a place where all sysctl variables are documented? It
 occurred to me when I was trying to find the memory usage on my system
 but `sysctl -a | grep mem' shows a whole bunch of stuff.

You can try sysctl -ad but most of the systls are either documented in
man pages or not at all. :(

 q) How can I set proxy settings system-wide? Same for PACKAGESITE (for
 the pkg_* tools), how can I set a mirror system-wide? /etc/profile?

Same as any other unix system. It depends on what shell you use.

 q) I noticed all file/data-sizes are in bytes (ls, dd, etc), is there
 a way to change that system-wide to be in human-readable format?

usually adding -h (for human) helps. Also try setting BLOCKSIZE.
each program might have some more explanation in the man page.


                                System

 To assess my understanding, the system is split into kernel, base,
 documentation, games, lib32 (on 64-bit systems) and ports.

This distinction is rarely used. The only place that cares for these
differences is the installer.

 There is
 another split between base and ports where base includes everything
 previously mentioned minus ports.

This is the one that matters

Now, there are 3 branches of the
 base system: RELEASE, STABLE and CURRENT. RELEASE means 9.0 and stays
 that way until 10.0 is released. STABLE means 9.0, 9.1, 9.2,
 etc. CURRENT means trunk in SVN terms. Is all that correct?

This is incorrect.

RELEASE are all releases: There is 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, etc.
STABLE is a misnomer: it is a *development* branch but the ABI / KPI
is kept stable.
CURRENT is HEAD and where new commits go before being MFCed or
Merged From Current to -stable. Releases are branched from -STABLE.
-STABLE is branched from -HEAD.

 Also,
 when somewhere is mentioned `make world', this means to rebuild all
 installed ports which doesn't include base, I assume?

make world is always wrong. make buildworld is closer.
In source land world is everything 

Re: USB system: FreeBSD 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT do not recognize 64GB USB drive while Linux and Windows do

2012-06-22 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:01 AM, O. Hartmann
ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
 I have a USB drive/stick, Lexar USB Flash drive as reported by FreeBSD
 shown below.
 When first used, I was able to put approx. 30 GB of data on it - it was
 visible to FreeBSD 9 and 10 as expected.
 A Linux system at the lab was also capable of recognizing it. After
 that, I tried to operate on the stick on a Notebook, FreeBSD 9, and
 another station, FreeBSD 10. But FreeBSD didn't recognize the USB drive
 anymore - sometimes, but this seems to be a gambling issue :-(

 Trying Linux on different hardware platforms and even those machines
 prior not recognizing the USB drive do recognize the drive as Lexar USB
 Flash drive with 64GB. That is Suse Linux (some 12.XX), that is Ubuntu
 12.04, that is Windows 7 Pro/x64. I can format the drive, I can push and
 pull data from it.

 So, since the USB drive won't work with three different FreeBSD boxes
 (one running 9-STABLE, two 10-CURRENT, all systems most recent sources
 and buildworld from a day ago).
 I suspect either a weird configuration issue I use on all platforms in
 questions in common triggering the weird beviour - or FreeBSD is simply
 incapable of handling the 64GB drive. I do not have issues with USB
 drives with capacities of 32, 8 or 4 GB of different brands.

 As shown in the portion of the dmesg below, the USB drive is recognized
 physically. It doesn't matter whether USB port I use (I tried all
 available on all boxes and in most cases I use a Dell UltraSharp powered
 in-screen HUB). Since other OSes handle the drive as expected, I exclude
 hardware issues.

 All FreeBSD in common is the fact I use the new device ahaci/device ata
 CAM/ATA scheme with devcie scbus in the kernel (I use custom kernels!).

 Apart from trying a GENERIC kernel (which is next I will do this
 weekend), does anyone have similar experiences and probably solutions?

 Regards,
 oh

 ugen7.6: Lexar at usbus7
 umass1: Lexar USB Flash Drive, class 0/0, rev 2.00/11.00, addr 6 on usbus7
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error
 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted


I see similar behavior and output on my Dell M6500 notebook running
CURRENT, but only on two ports which are some type of hybrid USB
2.0/3.0 (configurable via BIOS setting).

If I use either of these ports with a USB 2.0 device while running the
ports in USB 3.0 mode (using xhci(4)), I can't reliably get a device
to properly attach. I say reliably, because every once in a while, I
can plug a device in and it works fine, even multiple times and after
reboots.

If I configure these ports to run in USB 2.0 mode (using ehci(4)), all
of my USB 2.0 devices seem to work without fail. However, USB 3.0
devices do not attach on these ports when they are configured as USB
2.0 ports.

So, at least on my notebook, these ports must be configured at either
2.0 or 3.0, depending on which device I plan on using :(

I have one other port on this same system that is USB 2.0-only, and it
works all of the time :)

I'll have to try and add a hub into the mix to see if perhaps it is a
power issue (although with a recent Linux kernel and Windows 7, all is
well no matter what configuration I provide). It may be that FreeBSD's
USB subsystem lacks some extra bit of code required to configure the
ports properly in regard to power.

-Brandon
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Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Walter Hurry
A little digging around has revealed that there are two 'mailq' 
executables on my system: /usr/local/bin/mailq and /usr/bin/mailq.

The first is part of the mail/postfix-current port which I have installed 
and use, and the second is presumably part of Sendmail, which I have not 
installed and do not use.

It seems that Sendmail is embedded somehow in the base system. What is 
the 'approved' way to get rid of /usr/bin/mailq? Or better, remove 
Sendmail?

Sorry if this is a newbie question; I am as yet relatively unfamiliar 
with FreeBSD, being a refugee from GNU/Linux.

This is FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, by the way.

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Re: USB system: FreeBSD 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT do not recognize 64GB USB drive while Linux and Windows do

2012-06-22 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Jun 22, 2012 10:45 AM, Brandon Gooch jamesbrandongo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:01 AM, O. Hartmann
 ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
  I have a USB drive/stick, Lexar USB Flash drive as reported by FreeBSD
  shown below.
  When first used, I was able to put approx. 30 GB of data on it - it was
  visible to FreeBSD 9 and 10 as expected.
  A Linux system at the lab was also capable of recognizing it. After
  that, I tried to operate on the stick on a Notebook, FreeBSD 9, and
  another station, FreeBSD 10. But FreeBSD didn't recognize the USB drive
  anymore - sometimes, but this seems to be a gambling issue :-(
 
  Trying Linux on different hardware platforms and even those machines
  prior not recognizing the USB drive do recognize the drive as Lexar USB
  Flash drive with 64GB. That is Suse Linux (some 12.XX), that is Ubuntu
  12.04, that is Windows 7 Pro/x64. I can format the drive, I can push and
  pull data from it.
 
  So, since the USB drive won't work with three different FreeBSD boxes
  (one running 9-STABLE, two 10-CURRENT, all systems most recent sources
  and buildworld from a day ago).
  I suspect either a weird configuration issue I use on all platforms in
  questions in common triggering the weird beviour - or FreeBSD is simply
  incapable of handling the 64GB drive. I do not have issues with USB
  drives with capacities of 32, 8 or 4 GB of different brands.
 
  As shown in the portion of the dmesg below, the USB drive is recognized
  physically. It doesn't matter whether USB port I use (I tried all
  available on all boxes and in most cases I use a Dell UltraSharp powered
  in-screen HUB). Since other OSes handle the drive as expected, I exclude
  hardware issues.
 
  All FreeBSD in common is the fact I use the new device ahaci/device ata
  CAM/ATA scheme with devcie scbus in the kernel (I use custom kernels!).
 
  Apart from trying a GENERIC kernel (which is next I will do this
  weekend), does anyone have similar experiences and probably solutions?
 
  Regards,
  oh
 
  ugen7.6: Lexar at usbus7
  umass1: Lexar USB Flash Drive, class 0/0, rev 2.00/11.00, addr 6 on
usbus7
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an
error
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an
error
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an
error
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an
error
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying command
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an
error
  (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted
 

 I see similar behavior and output on my Dell M6500 notebook running
 CURRENT, but only on two ports which are some type of hybrid USB
 2.0/3.0 (configurable via BIOS setting).

 If I use either of these ports with a USB 2.0 device while running the
 ports in USB 3.0 mode (using xhci(4)), I can't reliably get a device
 to properly attach. I say reliably, because every once in a while, I
 can plug a device in and it works fine, even multiple times and after
 reboots.

 If I configure these ports to run in USB 2.0 mode (using ehci(4)), all
 of my USB 2.0 devices seem to work without fail. However, USB 3.0
 devices do not attach on these ports when they are configured as USB
 2.0 ports.

 So, at least on my notebook, these ports must be configured at either
 2.0 or 3.0, depending on which device I plan on using :(

 I have one other port on this same system that is USB 2.0-only, and it
 works all of the time :)

 I'll have to try and add a hub into the mix to see if perhaps it is a
 power issue (although with a recent Linux kernel and Windows 7, all is
 well no matter what configuration I provide). It may be that FreeBSD's
 USB subsystem lacks some extra bit of code required to configure the
 ports properly in regard to power.

 -Brandon
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There are 3 drivers, one for 3.0, 2.0 and 1.0, and they are associated to
corresponding devices  at boot. I'll play around with it this weekend and
see how to switch, i've also noticed issue connecting 2.0 device to 3.0
port.

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Re: Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 22/06/2012 19:19, Walter Hurry wrote:
 It seems that Sendmail is embedded somehow in the base system. What is 
 the 'approved' way to get rid of /usr/bin/mailq? Or better, remove 
 Sendmail?

You don't need to remove the base system sendmail.  All you need to do
is set up /etc/mail/mailer.conf properly -- and installing the postfix
port should do that for you -- and then any reference to
/usr/sbin/sendmail, /usr/bin/mailq, usr/bin/hoststat etc. will run
postfix instead.  It's really very nicely done.

See mailer.conf(5)

Cheers,

Matthew

PS. Alright, yes.  You can prevent sendmail from being built as part of
the base system by defining 'WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=yes' in /etc/src.conf, but
this supposes that you want to build the system yourself, rather than
using, say, freebsd-update(8).  See src.conf(5) and read in
/usr/src/UPDATING and the Handbook about the procedure for building the
system from source.

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Re: Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Mark Felder
When you installed Postfix did you allow it to update the entries in  
/etc/mail/mailer.conf ? If so, I wouldn't worry about the mailq binary  
that came with the system; it's ignored.

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Re: New to FreeBSD - Some questions

2012-06-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 22/06/2012 18:40, Eitan Adler wrote:
 q) Is there a place where all sysctl variables are documented? It
  occurred to me when I was trying to find the memory usage on my system
  but `sysctl -a | grep mem' shows a whole bunch of stuff.

 You can try sysctl -ad but most of the systls are either documented in
 man pages or not at all. :(

It would be a really handy thing if the output of 'sysctl -d' told you
what man page to refer to for more information.  A neat little project
but pretty boring to implement.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: backup tools

2012-06-22 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:09:03AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 I'm setting up a new backup server using FreeBSD.  It will be used for
 backing up laptops, which will not be connected to the network by any
 kind of schedule, so backups will be initiated manually rather than by
 cron or other scheduled procedures.

What are the laptops running?


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Re: Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Brian W.
During subsequent system upgrades, of you build from source, you should
watch out for thus during the mergemaster piece.

Brian
On Jun 22, 2012 11:44 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On 22/06/2012 19:19, Walter Hurry wrote:
  It seems that Sendmail is embedded somehow in the base system. What is
  the 'approved' way to get rid of /usr/bin/mailq? Or better, remove
  Sendmail?

 You don't need to remove the base system sendmail.  All you need to do
 is set up /etc/mail/mailer.conf properly -- and installing the postfix
 port should do that for you -- and then any reference to
 /usr/sbin/sendmail, /usr/bin/mailq, usr/bin/hoststat etc. will run
 postfix instead.  It's really very nicely done.

 See mailer.conf(5)

Cheers,

Matthew

 PS. Alright, yes.  You can prevent sendmail from being built as part of
 the base system by defining 'WITHOUT_SENDMAIL=yes' in /etc/src.conf, but
 this supposes that you want to build the system yourself, rather than
 using, say, freebsd-update(8).  See src.conf(5) and read in
 /usr/src/UPDATING and the Handbook about the procedure for building the
 system from source.

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How can i disable cups, docbook, gutenprint and other ports?

2012-06-22 Thread lokada...@gmx.de

Hi all,

How can i disable cups, docbook and other ports from compiling after 
port update?

I have no printer and no use of cups or docbook.

*Sorry for my english*
Greetings
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Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Rick Miller
Hi All,

Wondering if the Intel X520-DA2 10G Fibre NIC is supported in
stable/8.  Hardware notes don't specify it, but I have a system up and
the interfaces appear to be loaded by the ix driver.  However, status
indicates no carrier.

-- 
Take care
Rick Miller
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Re: New to FreeBSD - Some questions

2012-06-22 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Jun 22, 2012 10:42 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:

 On 21 June 2012 04:24, Fred Morcos fred.mor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Introduction and background
  q) Is it possible to run a FreeBSD system without much building? In
  other words, can I survive by depending on packages and only resorting
  to ports when really needed?

 To an extent. It is currently possible to use only packages, but they
 tend to be out of date and upgrading is non-easy without a third party
 tool (such as portmaster or portupgrade).
 There is currently active work to fix these issues in a project called
 pkgng. This will likely become the default in the next couple of
 months.

  q) Where does the FreeBSD project stand on this matter? From what I
  noticed is that the base system seems to adhere to the tranditional
  flat text files for configuration and simple tools that do a good job,
  leaving it up to the user to combine those small tools to create
  larger, more complex ones (a UNIX inheritance).

 FreeBSD tends to be conservative. The project won't implement a
 complex daemon without clear benefits and specific discussion on the
 pros and cons.

  q) Is a FreeBSD stable base system with current high-level
  components possible? Will it avoid the issues I experienced on
  Linux-based systems?

 Generally, yes. There will likely be some adjustment period as you
 learn how FreeBSD works, but most people have few problems.

  q) I would assume UFS with J+SU is fast enough for a laptop?

 Yes. Most people call it SU+J ;).
 Don't use it for an SSD though

  q) Does ZFS make sense on a laptop? Any advantages of using it over
  USF with J+SU? I am not interested in any striping or mirroring on
  the laptops, but the compression features is very attractive for the
  HDDs in the first laptop.

 ZFS is ram hog. How much ram does your laptop have?

  q) The second laptop has an SSD, would UFS with/without J and
  with/without SU or ZFS make more sense for it?

 Make sure to enable TRIM support if your SSD supports it.

  q) Can I live with a desktop environment (Gnome or KDE) and desktop
  applications (Firefox, Libreoffice, etc) by relying only on packages?

 Sort of. With pkgng this will become a lot easier.  If you are
 currently willing to deal with out of date packages until pkgng
 becomes default (or want to work with non-default technology now) it
 will be possible.

  q) Does the NVIDIA binary driver work reliably? I would like to hear
  personal experiences with that.

 Yes. This has never been the cause of any problem for me

  q) Does the bsdinstall align partitions to device blocks by default
  for optimal speed? If not, I have found that I can use gpart with -a
  and -b which will require me to calculate the start and end offsets of
  each partition manually. Is there a tool that can automatically do
  that for me?

 You said you had an SSD: it doesn't matter.

  q) Adding tmpmfs=YES to /etc/rc.conf is analogous to a tmpfs /tmp on
  Linux-based systems, correct?

 Yes.

  Any other directories that might make
  sense to have as an mfs (ie, in /var)?

 Don't use tmpfs for anything in /var

  q) Is there a place where all sysctl variables are documented? It
  occurred to me when I was trying to find the memory usage on my system
  but `sysctl -a | grep mem' shows a whole bunch of stuff.

 You can try sysctl -ad but most of the systls are either documented in
 man pages or not at all. :(

  q) How can I set proxy settings system-wide? Same for PACKAGESITE (for
  the pkg_* tools), how can I set a mirror system-wide? /etc/profile?

 Same as any other unix system. It depends on what shell you use.

  q) I noticed all file/data-sizes are in bytes (ls, dd, etc), is there
  a way to change that system-wide to be in human-readable format?

 usually adding -h (for human) helps. Also try setting BLOCKSIZE.
 each program might have some more explanation in the man page.

 
 System
 
  To assess my understanding, the system is split into kernel, base,
  documentation, games, lib32 (on 64-bit systems) and ports.

 This distinction is rarely used. The only place that cares for these
 differences is the installer.

  There is
  another split between base and ports where base includes everything
  previously mentioned minus ports.

 This is the one that matters

 Now, there are 3 branches of the
  base system: RELEASE, STABLE and CURRENT. RELEASE means 9.0 and stays
  that way until 10.0 is released. STABLE means 9.0, 9.1, 9.2,
  etc. CURRENT means trunk in SVN terms. Is all that correct?

 This is incorrect.

 RELEASE are all releases: There is 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, etc.
 STABLE is a misnomer: it is a *development* branch but the ABI / KPI
 is kept stable.
 CURRENT is HEAD and where new commits go before being MFCed or
 Merged From Current to -stable. Releases are branched from -STABLE.
 -STABLE is branched from -HEAD.

  Also,
  when somewhere is mentioned `make world', this means to 

Re: Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi--

On Jun 22, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Walter Hurry wrote:
 A little digging around has revealed that there are two 'mailq' 
 executables on my system: /usr/local/bin/mailq and /usr/bin/mailq.
 
 The first is part of the mail/postfix-current port which I have installed 
 and use, and the second is presumably part of Sendmail, which I have not 
 installed and do not use.
 
 It seems that Sendmail is embedded somehow in the base system. What is 
 the 'approved' way to get rid of /usr/bin/mailq? Or better, remove 
 Sendmail?

BSD Unixes have shipped with Sendmail for decades, much as BIND is also
included-- so yes, Sendmail is included with the base system by default.

The approved way is to simply leave things be.  Properly written software
will honor the links setup by mailwrapper(8) and use the Postfix MTA which
you installed instead:

  
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-changingmta.html

If you really want to remove sendmail entirely, you can rebuild FreeBSD with

   NO_SENDMAIL=TRUE

...set in /etc/make.conf, which will avoid building sendmail at all.

Regards,
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Re: Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:41:46 -0500, Mark Felder wrote:

 When you installed Postfix did you allow it to update the entries in
 /etc/mail/mailer.conf ? If so, I wouldn't worry about the mailq binary
 that came with the system; it's ignored.

Thanks! (Thanks too to the other responders.)

Looks like that's the step I missed. Fixed now.

Cheers.

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Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Rick Miller
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Wondering if the Intel X520-DA2 10G Fibre NIC is supported in
 stable/8.  Hardware notes don't specify it, but I have a system up and
 the interfaces appear to be loaded by the ix driver.  However, status
 indicates no carrier.

Ok, brain fart.  Please forgive my ineptitude.  I once sent an email
inquiring about the Intel 82599, which is this NIC.  Responses to that
mail say it's supported by the ixgbe driver.  My stable/8 installation
(5/21/2012) probes it with an ix driver that I cannot find any info
on.  The ixgbe manage indicates it only supports 82598 based
controllers.  Not sure what to think here...
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Re: Fwd: Need latest xorg

2012-06-22 Thread lokada...@gmx.de

On 06/20/12 23:25, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote:

I don't seem to have generated much comment.

I suspect you are thinking as I do that if your servers don't 
immediately download then their is a bandit on my Internet line??

Xorg 7.7 for testing.
http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2012/06/cft-xorg-7-7-ready-for-testing/
but i can't load this site at the moment. :(
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Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Andrew Boyer
The ixgbe driver creates devices named ix0, etc.

I believe you need to run 'ifconfig ix0 up' before it will attempt to get link.

-Andrew

On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Rick Miller wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Wondering if the Intel X520-DA2 10G Fibre NIC is supported in
 stable/8.  Hardware notes don't specify it, but I have a system up and
 the interfaces appear to be loaded by the ix driver.  However, status
 indicates no carrier.
 
 Ok, brain fart.  Please forgive my ineptitude.  I once sent an email
 inquiring about the Intel 82599, which is this NIC.  Responses to that
 mail say it's supported by the ixgbe driver.  My stable/8 installation
 (5/21/2012) probes it with an ix driver that I cannot find any info
 on.  The ixgbe manage indicates it only supports 82598 based
 controllers.  Not sure what to think here...
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Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Rick Miller
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Andrew Boyer abo...@averesystems.com wrote:
 The ixgbe driver creates devices named ix0, etc.

 I believe you need to run 'ifconfig ix0 up' before it will attempt to get 
 link.

Thanks for clarifying that tidbit.  At least I know the driver loading
is the correct driver :)

I did try ifup'ing the interface...it shows the interface up, status
is still no carrier.  I've had confirmation that the cable itself is
good.  I wonder if it matters that the upstream switch has VLAN
tagging enabled?
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Re: New to FreeBSD - Some questions

2012-06-22 Thread Eitan Adler
On 22 June 2012 11:44, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:
 On 22/06/2012 18:40, Eitan Adler wrote:
 q) Is there a place where all sysctl variables are documented? It
  occurred to me when I was trying to find the memory usage on my system
  but `sysctl -a | grep mem' shows a whole bunch of stuff.

 You can try sysctl -ad but most of the systls are either documented in
 man pages or not at all. :(

 It would be a really handy thing if the output of 'sysctl -d' told you
 what man page to refer to for more information.  A neat little project
 but pretty boring to implement.

Agreed. I don't have the time to do this directly, but I'm willing to
commit patches that do this.
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Re: New to FreeBSD - Some questions

2012-06-22 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:

 On 22 June 2012 11:44, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk
 wrote:
  On 22/06/2012 18:40, Eitan Adler wrote:
  q) Is there a place where all sysctl variables are documented? It
   occurred to me when I was trying to find the memory usage on my
 system
   but `sysctl -a | grep mem' shows a whole bunch of stuff.
 
  You can try sysctl -ad but most of the systls are either documented in
  man pages or not at all. :(
 
  It would be a really handy thing if the output of 'sysctl -d' told you
  what man page to refer to for more information.  A neat little project
  but pretty boring to implement.

 Agreed. I don't have the time to do this directly, but I'm willing to
 commit patches that do this.
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that sounds great,
also, for the moment you can try grep in /usr/src and usually find what you
are looking for there. Usually the source code is well-documented, and you
can see which switches do what. an idea...

Waitman Gobble
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Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Damien Fleuriot

On 22 Jun 2012, at 22:02, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Andrew Boyer abo...@averesystems.com wrote:
 The ixgbe driver creates devices named ix0, etc.
 
 I believe you need to run 'ifconfig ix0 up' before it will attempt to get 
 link.
 
 Thanks for clarifying that tidbit.  At least I know the driver loading
 is the correct driver :)
 
 I did try ifup'ing the interface...it shows the interface up, status
 is still no carrier.  I've had confirmation that the cable itself is
 good.  I wonder if it matters that the upstream switch has VLAN
 tagging enabled?
 

Nope, having a link is layer 1, VLAN tagging happens at layer 3 iirc.

If you're unsure, you can always create a VLAN interface bound to your NIC.


I suppose you've tried reversing the fibre 
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Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Rick Miller
dmesg and ifconfig output below...

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Andrew Boyer abo...@averesystems.com wrote:
 The ixgbe driver creates devices named ix0, etc.

 I believe you need to run 'ifconfig ix0 up' before it will attempt to get 
 link.

 Thanks for clarifying that tidbit.  At least I know the driver loading
 is the correct driver :)

 I did try ifup'ing the interface...it shows the interface up, status
 is still no carrier.  I've had confirmation that the cable itself is
 good.  I wonder if it matters that the upstream switch has VLAN
 tagging enabled?

ix0: Intel(R) PRO/10GbE PCI-Express Network Driver, Version - 2.4.5
port 0x7000-0x701f mem 0xf6b8-0xf6bf,0xf6b7-0xf6b73fff irq
40 at device 0.0 on pci7
ix0: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors
ix0: RX Descriptors exceed system mbuf max, using default instead!
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: [ITHREAD]
ix0: Ethernet address: 90:e2:ba:15:e2:60
ix0: PCI Express Bus: Speed 5.0Gb/s Width x8
ix1: Intel(R) PRO/10GbE PCI-Express Network Driver, Version - 2.4.5
port 0x7020-0x703f mem 0xf6a8-0xf6af,0xf6a7-0xf6a73fff irq
44 at device 0.1 on pci7
ix1: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors
ix1: RX Descriptors exceed system mbuf max, using default instead!
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: [ITHREAD]
ix1: Ethernet address: 90:e2:ba:15:e2:61
ix1: PCI Express Bus: Speed 5.0Gb/s Width x8


ix0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=401bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,VLAN_HWTSO
ether 90:e2:ba:XX:XX:XX
inet 10.1.2.50 netmask 0xfe00 broadcast 10.1.3.255
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier
ix1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=401bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,VLAN_HWTSO
ether 90:e2:ba:XX:XX:XX
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier


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Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Jack Vogel
Increase your system mbuf pool size, you do not want that failure to happen.

Jack


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.comwrote:

 dmesg and ifconfig output below...

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Andrew Boyer abo...@averesystems.com
 wrote:
  The ixgbe driver creates devices named ix0, etc.
 
  I believe you need to run 'ifconfig ix0 up' before it will attempt to
 get link.
 
  Thanks for clarifying that tidbit.  At least I know the driver loading
  is the correct driver :)
 
  I did try ifup'ing the interface...it shows the interface up, status
  is still no carrier.  I've had confirmation that the cable itself is
  good.  I wonder if it matters that the upstream switch has VLAN
  tagging enabled?

 ix0: Intel(R) PRO/10GbE PCI-Express Network Driver, Version - 2.4.5
 port 0x7000-0x701f mem 0xf6b8-0xf6bf,0xf6b7-0xf6b73fff irq
 40 at device 0.0 on pci7
 ix0: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors
 ix0: RX Descriptors exceed system mbuf max, using default instead!
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: [ITHREAD]
 ix0: Ethernet address: 90:e2:ba:15:e2:60
 ix0: PCI Express Bus: Speed 5.0Gb/s Width x8
 ix1: Intel(R) PRO/10GbE PCI-Express Network Driver, Version - 2.4.5
 port 0x7020-0x703f mem 0xf6a8-0xf6af,0xf6a7-0xf6a73fff irq
 44 at device 0.1 on pci7
 ix1: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors
 ix1: RX Descriptors exceed system mbuf max, using default instead!
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: [ITHREAD]
 ix1: Ethernet address: 90:e2:ba:15:e2:61
 ix1: PCI Express Bus: Speed 5.0Gb/s Width x8


 ix0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

  
 options=401bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,VLAN_HWTSO
ether 90:e2:ba:XX:XX:XX
inet 10.1.2.50 netmask 0xfe00 broadcast 10.1.3.255
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier
 ix1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

  
 options=401bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,VLAN_HWTSO
ether 90:e2:ba:XX:XX:XX
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier


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Building libreoffice on 8.3 x86-64, not

2012-06-22 Thread John Levine
I have an 8.3 x86-64 system, fully patched, all ports but one up to date.

When I try to build libreoffice, it fails in various sub-builds.  Most of
the sub-builds work when I retry them, except for tail_build which fails
repeatedly.

It's using clang for the build, but I don't see any option to use GCC.

Any suggestions?  I have 500 megabytes of build logs if anyone wants
to look at them.

R's,
John

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fsck_ufs running too often

2012-06-22 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
Hi, since a few of days ago, I noticed my home server turns very slow more than 
once a day, so every time I run top to see what's processes are running, I 
can see fsck_ufs at the very top, and the hard drive working like mad.

I've checked my crontab and there's nothing related to fsck_ufs, where can I 
start searching for the cause of the problem?, I thought this process should 
run only at boot or shutdown, but this time it is running -apparently- without 
a cause.

uname -a:
FreeBSD server.my.local 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:46:30 
UTC 2012     r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

Regards,
Leonardo M. Ramé
http://leonardorame.blogspot.com
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Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Rick Miller
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Increase your system mbuf pool size, you do not want that failure to happen.

Thanks, Jack.  I saw a thread where you discussed this.  You are
referring to kern.ipc.nmbclusters, correct?

Should I also adjust the following?

hw.ixgbe.rxd
hw.ixgbe.txd
hw.ixgbe.num_queues
hw.intr_storm_threshold
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Re: fsck_ufs running too often

2012-06-22 Thread RW
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:56:39 -0700 (PDT)
Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:

 Hi, since a few of days ago, I noticed my home server turns very slow
 more than once a day, so every time I run top to see what's
 processes are running, I can see fsck_ufs at the very top, and the
 hard drive working like mad.
 
 I've checked my crontab and there's nothing related to fsck_ufs,
 where can I start searching for the cause of the problem?, I thought
 this process should run only at boot or shutdown, but this time it is
 running -apparently- without a cause.


If you have background fsck enabled it runs just after the boot has
completed. Have you checked the uptime? It may be that your
server is spontaneously rebooting.
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi

Thomas Mueller wrote:


 There actually is/was a closed-source BSD (BSDI), and there is Mac OS X, with 
 BSD under the covers.

BSDi sold source-code licenses.  I was an early-adopter, and I _have_ one.

The vast majority of the code was taken directly from BSD 4.4 Lite, and
the source-code carried just the UCB copyriht and licensinG,  The 'missing
pieces' necessary to make an 'operational' O/S were copyright BSDi, most
had fairly liberal license terms.  There were some _vendor_supplied drivers
that were binary-only, and had more rstrictive licensing.`


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Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8?

2012-06-22 Thread Jack Vogel
Would probably be good to take care of the storm threshold if you haven't,
set it to 0
and you disable the check, that's what we do internally. As for the queues
and number
of descriptors, that's kind of up to you, different work loads and
environments work best
with different setups.

Hopefully, when you get rid of the rx ring setup failure you will get
things working.

Jack


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.comwrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Increase your system mbuf pool size, you do not want that failure to
 happen.

 Thanks, Jack.  I saw a thread where you discussed this.  You are
 referring to kern.ipc.nmbclusters, correct?

 Should I also adjust the following?

 hw.ixgbe.rxd
 hw.ixgbe.txd
 hw.ixgbe.num_queues
 hw.intr_storm_threshold

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Re: Building libreoffice on 8.3 x86-64, not

2012-06-22 Thread ajtiM
On Friday 22 June 2012 16:43:06 John Levine wrote:
 I have an 8.3 x86-64 system, fully patched, all ports but one up to date.
 
 When I try to build libreoffice, it fails in various sub-builds.  Most of
 the sub-builds work when I retry them, except for tail_build which fails
 repeatedly.
 
 It's using clang for the build, but I don't see any option to use GCC.
 
 Any suggestions?  I have 500 megabytes of build logs if anyone wants
 to look at them.
 
 R's,
 John
 
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It doesn't build with clan and nothing better is with gcc.
Next version should be okay.

Mitja

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cron pile up! libnss-mysql and cron (Rehash)

2012-06-22 Thread Rudy
4.5 years ago, I posted about cron's piling up.  It seems if I install 
libnss-mysql on a fresh 9.0-STABLE, this problem persists.


Here was the original post:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-December/164174.html

I've seen this on 6.2, 7.x, and now 9.0 FreeBSD.

How to repeat:
 install a fresh BSD system, install libnss-mysql, wait a few days.




System info:
 FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE amd64
 libnss-mysql-1.5_3  NSS module using a MySQL database for backend
 mariadb-client-5.3.6 Database server - drop-in replacement for MySQL
 mariadb-server-5.3.6 Database server - drop-in replacement for MySQL


ps axlw | grep cron
  0 56084 1   0  20  0  31064   2844 nanslp   IsJ  ??  0:00.78 
/usr/sbin/cron -s
  0 68402 56084   0  20  0  31064   2844 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68403 68402   0  20  0  31064   2844 so_rcv_s IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68527 56084   0  20  0  31064   2848 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68528 56084   0  20  0  31064   2844 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68530 68527   0  20  0  31064   2848 so_rcv_s IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68531 68528   0  20  0  31064   2844 so_rcv_s IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68558 56084   0  20  0  31064   2844 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68559 68558   0  20  0  31064   2844 so_rcv_s IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68591 56084   0  20  0  31064   2844 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68592 68591   0  20  0  31064   2844 so_rcv_s IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68608 56084   0  20  0  31064   2848 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68609 68608   0  20  0  31064   2848 so_rcv_s IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68659 56084   0  20  0  31064   2848 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68660 68659   0  20  0  31064   2848 sbwait   IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68683 56084   0  20  0  31064   2844 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68684 68683   0  20  0  31064   2844 so_rcv_s IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68722 56084   0  21  0  31064   2848 ppwait   DJ   ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)
  0 68723 68722   0  20  0  31064   2848 so_rcv_s IVsJ ??  0:00.00 
cron: running job (cron)



Interestingly, if I do a truss and hit ^C, the process disappears... 
see below:


# truss -p 68684
^C
# truss -p 68684
truss: can not attach to target process: No such process
# grep 68684 /var/log/cron
Jun 22 16:25:00 mail /usr/sbin/cron[68684]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)


Rudy

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Re: Fwd: Need latest xorg

2012-06-22 Thread Lynn Steven Killingsworth
I have found that 9-stable is on a couple of sites.  Today I looked up the  
addresses of the packages and used pkg_add -r ftp://ftpetc  I have  
xorg-7.5.2 with newer drivers for my recent AMD HD 7950.  It looks very,  
very nice.  xorg-7.7 on 10 must be awesome but this is my principle  
machine.  I also have kde4-4.8.3 and etc.


On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:51:22 -0400, lokada...@gmx.de lokada...@gmx.de  
wrote:



On 06/20/12 23:25, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote:

I don't seem to have generated much comment.

I suspect you are thinking as I do that if your servers don't  
immediately download then their is a bandit on my Internet line??

Xorg 7.7 for testing.
http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2012/06/cft-xorg-7-7-ready-for-testing/
but i can't load this site at the moment. :(



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Building libreoffice on 8.3 x86-64, not

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Huff

John Levine writes:

  I have an 8.3 x86-64 system, fully patched, all ports but one up to date.
  
  When I try to build libreoffice, it fails in various sub-builds.
  Most of the sub-builds work when I retry them, except for
  tail_build which fails repeatedly.

There are known issues with libreoffice-3.5.2; the most common
have to do with problems choosing the correct library (usually
involving boost (port vs. libreoffice native)).
There is a work-around, described in a revent thread in
office@.
There is also reason for hope this will be fixed in 3.5.4.


Robert Huff

 
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Fri Jun 22 09:26:33 2012
 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:25:55 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Why Clang

  Because it doesn't address an of the *OTHER* valid reasons why GCC is
  being replaced -- among them:
   1) GCC's continuously increasing propensity to generate bad code,

 examples? All test shows that gcc code is not only bad, but very good. 

YOU ARE A LIAR. The _only_thing *you* measure by is 'speed'.  You don't
understand what the words bad code means -- that it has *nothing* to do 
with how fast the code executes.. Despite the fact I explicitly described 
what I was talking about -- and that you intentionally removed that 
description. 

 Why are you just saying things you know isn't true?

Why are you just _lying_ trollbiu?

Just because _you_ haven't seen it doesn't mean it's not true.

I *KNOW* it is true -- I've been bitten by GCC bad code _multiple_ times,
and in multiple ways, in application code.  Problems in O/S internals are 
much more common.

I've had segfaults in code that couldn't _POSSIBLY_ segfault.  An example
of the _kind_ of thing that has blown up:

 int foo()
 {  int a,b,c[10];

b=2;
a=c[b];   /* dies here with a segfault */
 }

 running in the debugger confirms b has the correct value just before
 the statement assigning a value to a. issue a 'next' command in the
 debugger, and you get a segfault.  printing the value of 'b' shows 
 it is 2.

 Disassembling the machine code shows that the WRONG REGISTER is used
 to calculate the effective address of the array element.

 It's clearly a bug in the optimizer -- I'd be surprised if it showed
 in that 'minimal' illustrative code.  When I've gotten bit, it was 
 a 1,000+ LOC module.

 I've also seen it use machine 'loop' instructions with the DF flag
 set wrong.


   2) The inability of GCC mamintainers to fix _long-standing_ bugs, some
  have been identified for over a decade, and have not been fixed.

 That's true. still not that much.

Your opinion of the seriousness doesn't count.  Those of us who have had
to 'code raround' those bugs for years and years have a _very_ different
opinion.

   3) The continuously increasing trend of introducing 'non standard' 
  features,
 No need to use them.

Trollboi shows he doesn't know what he doesn't know, yet again.

Some of them _conflict_ with STANDARD C.   Thus 'standards-compliant' C source
does 'something else', when compiled with GCC.  The FSF thinks 'their way'
is better, and have no intention of changing.


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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 08:28:17AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
 biggest problem with what you propose, though, is that it would destroy
 the social factors in development of the FreeBSD system that make it what
 it is, and thus destroy FreeBSD itself, as far as I am concerned.
 
 I am not sure, as long as clients would be treated seriously!

I look at large corporate software vendors and see them treating
customers seriously maybe 2% of the time at best.  In this case, most of
the developers and project managers of FreeBSD are also customers,
which changes things significantly.


 
 I would have thought that even you should be able to understand that
 without help.

 another personal attack? I though i talk with adults.

1. It's a comment on your tendency to ignore substantive arguments from
other people, including probably half a dozen (so far) lengthy
explanations of factors you refuse to consider written by *me*.

2. You're a hypocrite, pretending you're an innocent victim of personal
attacks, given the way you go around making personal attacks on everyone
else with a broad brush.  I've commented on that, too, but -- like much
of the rest of what I've said -- you simply ignored it.


 
 Turning it into a commercial enterprise rather than an open source
 project would probably turn it into a project that is driven about 60% by
 corporate politics and 40% by marketing BS, with no room left over for
 quality except as needed to support the minimum credibility its CEO deems
 necessary to support those two concerns.

 It depends solely on development team.

I take it you don't know anything at all about how public corporations
manage their development teams.  That, or you're being disingenuous.

It depends on the development team, and the priorities they choose to
pursue first, right now.  Under the stewardship of a publicly traded
corporation, it would depend on the CEO, the board of directors,
marketing, PR, and the accounting department, and the priorities *they*
choose to pursue first, instead.


 
 For now - as we see - it's decision are driven by money.
 But not all users money but few selected large users.

It's not *just* a decision driven by money.  Money applies, certainly,
but not as much as it would if FreeBSD were a for-profit public
corporation rather than a community-driven open source project.  When you
say this, by the way, you ignore something like 90% of the perfectly
reasonable additional motivating factors that have been brought up.  I
suppose I should not expect any different by now, given the strong track
record you've managed to establish just in this one extended discussion.


 
 Worse based on a couple of very narrowly applicable metrics derived
 
 There will be IMHO soon good compiler available. it's highly
 probable that pcc would improve a lot, for now it is small, quick
 but doesn't produce good code for new CPUs. But it probably will
 improve.
 
 CLANG is already great bloat, and will be worse.

Binary size and minuscule benchmark variations are all you see.  It is
ludicrous to watch you close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears,
and shout lalalalalalalala so consistently to prevent any other factors
involved in compiler choice from entering your mind -- such as good
output from a compiler that will be stable and do what you expect.


 
 No amount of money will fix it, actually too much money will hurt.

. . . and yet you want to turn the FreeBSD project over to Microsoft (or
the equivalent).  You contradict yourself.

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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 01:16:09PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
 Chad Perrin wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:06:12PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
   i already proposed (but not publically) to turn FreeBSD into
   commercial system.
   
   REALLY i would not see a problem to pay say 100$ per server licence.
  
  I would see a problem with that -- not because I don't think FreeBSD is
  worth it.  I do, and I think it is worth more than that, in fact.  The
  biggest problem with what you propose, though, is that it would destroy
 
 Hi Chad etc,
 I admire the perserverance, but maybe Don't feed the troll ?

Yeah. . . .

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cron pile up! Lot's of cron: running job (cron)

2012-06-22 Thread Rudy


http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-December/164174.html
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:24:57AM -0500, Reid Linnemann wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
  I disagree with the assessment by others that FreeBSD is in some way
  effectively a subsidiary of its corporate users, but it does have
  corporate users, as well as non-corporate users.  Just as it must
  reasonably see to the needs of the individuals who use it, so must it
  also reasonably see to the needs of those corporate users, especially
  when some of those corporate users' employees are key developers for the
  base system (to the significant benefit of the rest of us).  Thus, saying
  that a particular set of conditions having an impact on commercial
  sponsors of FreeBSD has zero bearing on FreeBSD itself is just . . .
  incorrect.
 
 And I would like to stress on this point that, when I referred to
 corporate sponsorship in an earlier post, I was thinking specifically
 about the sponsorship of employing developers that keep the system
 moving forward, not necessarily monetary donations. The foundation
 does need money, but the software is doomed if no one is gainfully
 employed to maintain and enhance it. I think there is an altruistic
 fiction that many people subscribe to that free software is merely the
 result of the generosity of developers producing code of their own
 volition and on their own spare time and giving it away, and from
 that viewpoint the act of considering concerns of a sponsoring entity
 amounts to selling out. The reality is much different and much more
 complex, as you well know.

Indeed.  When I contribute to an open source project, as an individual, 
much the same factors apply.  I do not do it to help someone like Michel
Talon, or even Reid Linnemann; I do it to help myself, by improving
software I like, or to help people who in turn work to improve software I
like.  I have selfish goals that are served by my support of well-
designed copyfree software, whether that support is financial in nature,
a contribution of development effort, or something less direct.

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Re: Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Fri Jun 22 13:47:20 2012
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:41:46 -0500
 From: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
 Subject: Re: Sendmail and Postfix

 When you installed Postfix did you allow it to update the entries in  
 /etc/mail/mailer.conf ? If so, I wouldn't worry about the mailq binary  
 that came with the system; it's ignored.

For SendMail, mailq is just a symlink to the SendMail executable.

the mail.conf stuff (to use a polite word) installs it's own executable(s)
under all the 'common' names that SendMail is invoked as.  These
executables look at /etc/mailer.conf, and invoke the appropiate executable
for the mailer that you have seleccted in mailer.conf.

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Re: backup tools

2012-06-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 08:47:40PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:09:03AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
  I'm setting up a new backup server using FreeBSD.  It will be used for
  backing up laptops, which will not be connected to the network by any
  kind of schedule, so backups will be initiated manually rather than by
  cron or other scheduled procedures.
 
 What are the laptops running?

FreeBSD, Debian, and/or Ubuntu.  There's at least one of each.  I
apologize for not mentioning that sooner.  I had a feeling I'd overlook
something.

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Re: backup tools

2012-06-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:

 I'm setting up a new backup server using FreeBSD.  It will be used for
 backing up laptops, which will not be connected to the network by any
 kind of schedule, so backups will be initiated manually rather than by
 cron or other scheduled procedures.  I'm trying to decide on what tools
 to use for managing backups.  In the past I have used rsync, which has
 worked reasonably well, but fails one of my desired criteria for the new
 backup procedures, and is less than ideal for others.


One's I use or have used:

sysutils/rdiff-backup
sysutils/tarsnap
misc/amanda-server

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Re: backup tools

2012-06-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 08:14:34PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 
  I'm setting up a new backup server using FreeBSD.  It will be used for
  backing up laptops, which will not be connected to the network by any
  kind of schedule, so backups will be initiated manually rather than by
  cron or other scheduled procedures.  I'm trying to decide on what tools
  to use for managing backups.  In the past I have used rsync, which has
  worked reasonably well, but fails one of my desired criteria for the new
  backup procedures, and is less than ideal for others.
 
 
 One's I use or have used:
 
 sysutils/rdiff-backup
 sysutils/tarsnap
 misc/amanda-server

Unfortunately, one of those is GPL, another is subject to proprietary
licensing, and the last has a bunch of (otherwise unnecessary on the
server) GNU project dependencies.

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Re: How can i disable cups, docbook, gutenprint and other ports?

2012-06-22 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:56:59 +0200, lokada...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 How can i disable cups, docbook and other ports from compiling after 
 port update?
 I have no printer and no use of cups or docbook.

If you don't mind the _time_ required for building those ports
(and taking into mind that the disk space occupied doesn't
even matter as disks are big and cheap today), you don't have
to _enable_ CUPS if you're actually _not_ using it. That would
be disabling them. :-)

Sadly, there's no really comfortable way of not _building_ them
as they are (almost hardcoded!) dependencies for other ports
you might be using. There are some config screens (see make
config and make config-recursive or portmaster's --force-config
option) where you _might_ have the chance to de-select some of
those ports so they won't build. But as I said, that depends on
the primary ports you're using and their dependencies.

You know, by accident, you could even install LaTeX (teTeX)
as a dependency! :-)


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Re: fsck_ufs running too often

2012-06-22 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:56:39 -0700 (PDT), Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
 Hi, since a few of days ago, I noticed my home server turns very
 slow more than once a day, so every time I run top to see
 what's processes are running, I can see fsck_ufs at the very
 top, and the hard drive working like mad.

It seems you have background_fsck=YES enabled in /etc/rc.conf.
Is this desired? If not, set it to =NO to perform a file system
check prior to going multi-user. That would take several minutes,
but it makes sure the system boots up into a properly checked and
mounted environment.



 I've checked my crontab and there's nothing related to fsck_ufs,
 where can I start searching for the cause of the problem?,

Check /etc/rc.conf (see man rc.conf and /etc/defaults/rc.conf),
look for the background_fsck setting.



 I thought this process should run only at boot or shutdown,

At shutdown? I'd say at boot. In fact, a background file system
check actually starts at boot, but runs during and after boot-up,
that's what you're obviously noticing as high I/O load.



 but this time it is running -apparently- without a cause.

No. The fsck run doesn't start without a cause. The cause is: the
filesystem about to be mounted is dirty (contains defects because
it wasn't properly unmounted). What the reason for _this_ observation
is... check if your server accidentally got powered off (e. g.
bad power line).

You can check the timestamps in various log files (most prominent
example is /var/log/messages) to see when your system started.

If you notice the system started too often, maybe fsck was not
able to successfully finish (and repair!) the file systems, so it
will do so on every start of the system.

My suggestion: Set background_fsck=YES in /etc/rc.conf and let
the system boot up that way. _If_ you have a faulty disk or other
data corruption, you'll notice this _before_ going multi-user and
maybe making things worse. Yes, it might take some time, but it's
time well invested in your data integrity.

Alternative: Perform a shutdown now and go into single-user mode.
Then unmount all your file systems, do mount -o ro / and then
perform the fsck run on all file systems. It's typically adviced
to perform file system checks on unmounted (or at least read-only
mounted) file systems.




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Re: backup tools

2012-06-22 Thread Marco Antonio Muskus Muskus
Bacula is the tool

Enviado desde mi iPod

El 22/06/2012, a las 8:31 p.m., Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
escribió:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 08:14:34PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
 wrote:

 I'm setting up a new backup server using FreeBSD.  It will be
 used for
 backing up laptops, which will not be connected to the network by
 any
 kind of schedule, so backups will be initiated manually rather
 than by
 cron or other scheduled procedures.  I'm trying to decide on what
 tools
 to use for managing backups.  In the past I have used rsync, which
 has
 worked reasonably well, but fails one of my desired criteria for
 the new
 backup procedures, and is less than ideal for others.


 One's I use or have used:

 sysutils/rdiff-backup
 sysutils/tarsnap
 misc/amanda-server

 Unfortunately, one of those is GPL, another is subject to proprietary
 licensing, and the last has a bunch of (otherwise unnecessary on the
 server) GNU project dependencies.

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Off Topic. DNS, Android.

2012-06-22 Thread Jorge Biquez

Hello.

I am sorry if the following 2 questions could sound too stupid.

a) Normally any Domain name registered has to have 2 Nameservers. 
Some registry like the one responsible for .ORG requires 2 at least 
to propagate the domain. In teh case of .COM that is not a 
requirement, one nameserver could work. If for some reason I have 2 
of them and one is configured to point to SERVER A , and the other to 
SERVER B. Differenet places, same configuration. Is there any 
preference over what is PRIMARY NAMESERVER or SECONDARY NAMESERVER? I 
mean, Primary is the one used mainly?


b) I am looking for good list like this one for people developing, 
learning about Android Development. Any suggestion ?

I am trying to setup a Freebsd machine for developing for Android, if possible.

Thanks in advance.

JB

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Re: I have a problem to my server running under FreeBSD 8.1 p-1 release

2012-06-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Saturday 23 June 2012 09:47:35 RetspaN Code wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Since you all the responsible of freebsd source and updates... Is there

you are the only one responsible for the break in. So, what was the problem?

 anyway to fix my server without re install the system?
 
Oh yes, you can find out what was done with your system and revert all 
changes.

But you must be really sure what you are doing then.

And you can do this only as long as you still have root access. Do you still 
have it?

Erich
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Re: Off Topic. DNS, Android.

2012-06-22 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 22, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote:
 Hello.

Hola!

 I am sorry if the following 2 questions could sound too stupid.
 
 a) Normally any Domain name registered has to have 2 Nameservers. Some 
 registry like the one responsible for .ORG requires 2 at least to propagate 
 the domain. In teh case of .COM that is not a requirement, one nameserver 
 could work.

It's always a good idea to have at least two nameservers configured for any 
public domain, and best practice involves having nameservers located on 
different networks.

 If for some reason I have 2 of them and one is configured to point to SERVER 
 A , and the other to SERVER B. Differenet places, same configuration. Is 
 there any preference over what is PRIMARY NAMESERVER or SECONDARY NAMESERVER? 
 I mean, Primary is the one used mainly?

No, DNS round-robin used on most platforms will rotate fairly evenly.  And the 
traffic can be cached by other nameservers for a long(er) time by upping TTLs, 
if you wish to reduce network traffic load...at the tradeoff of making DNS 
changes take longer to be noticed, of course.

Bigger sites might adjust DNS traffic onto server pools with a load-balancer 
which does liveness checks of the nameservers and could be told to adjust 
traffic routing in various ways.  You can also do something similar via 
ipfw/natd's redirect_address  (see RFC 2391).

 b) I am looking for good list like this one for people developing, learning 
 about Android Development. Any suggestion ?
 I am trying to setup a Freebsd machine for developing for Android, if 
 possible.

Hmm.  http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html suggests that maybe the Linux 
distribution under FreeBSD's Linux emulation might be a possibility.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: Off Topic. DNS, Android.

2012-06-22 Thread Stas Verberkt
 b) I am looking for good list like this one for people developing,
 learning about Android Development. Any suggestion ?
 I am trying to setup a Freebsd machine for developing for Android, if
 possible.

 Hmm.  http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html suggests that maybe the
 Linux distribution under FreeBSD's Linux emulation might be a possibility.

On some blog, I read about http://bsdroid.org


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