Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3 - found the problem!

2005-01-17 Thread Ian Moore
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:13, Christian Hiris wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 January 2005 07:19, Ian Moore wrote:
> > Now I'm not sure what the best way to get around this would be. I run a
> > caching name server on the machine, so I guess I can tweak it to force
> > localhost.foo.com resolve to 127.0.0.1
>
> I'm running ntpd and a caching nameserver on one machine, too. The external
> IP is only referenced by /etc/hosts. My bind holds only the internal
> networks, including it's own localhost. There also could be some influence
> from your /etc/resolv.conf, but I'm not sure about.
>
> # dig localhost.matrix.net
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> localhost.matrix.net
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47348
> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;localhost.matrix.net.  IN  A
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> localhost.matrix.net.   3600IN  A   127.0.0.1
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> matrix.net. 3600IN  NS  ns.matrix.net.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns.matrix.net.  3600IN  A   192.168.123.1
>
> ;; Query time: 1 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.123.1#53(192.168.123.1)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Jan 18 07:27:54 2005
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 87
>
>
> # cat /etc/resolv.conf
> search matrix.net
> nameserver 127.0.0.1

Oops,
I've just realised I'm not running a name server at all on my 5.3 system. I 
have 4.9 installed on this computer too & I'd set up the caching server on 
it, I guess I forgot that step when I installed 5.3.
I'll set it up & see that makes any difference.

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console resolution on a T41

2005-01-17 Thread Galanaki, Dimitrios
I am trying to increase the console resolution on my Thinkpad T41 which has
an ATI mobility radeon card.
>From what I read the standard step is to add the lines following lines in
the kernel configuration file:
options   VESA
options   SC_PIXEL_MODE
However when I run
vidcontrol -g 100x37 VESA_800x600
I still get that the mode is not supported by the device.
Is there something that I am missing here? Has anyone tried to increase
console resolution on a T41 Thinkpad or even an ATI mobility radeon laptop?

D.
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[IDLE] Issues

2005-01-17 Thread Dev Tugnait
For some reason today my load average seemed to spike repeatedly at intervals 
going over 5.38 making my mouse laggy and machine terribly slow. Its a desktop 
machine.

ps -aux output
UsER  PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED  TIME COMMAND

root   11 90.5  0.0 0   12  ??  RL   29Dec04 20354:56.82 [idle]

systat output
/0   /10  /20  /30  /40  /50  /60  /70  /80  /90  /100
root   idle XX

Moving along to figure out what process is idling i killed X postfix and 
basically everything running except moused, cron, and inetd and the bare 
minimum needed to run csh. I didnt seem to find any applications idling or 
running out of the ordinary. 

I cant seem to kill the [IDLE] splads, what i am curious about is how would one 
diagnose such an issue? The problem started out today. My usualy load average 
is about 0.5.

Machine Specs
2.6ghz p4
1gb ram 2gb swap

thanks

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atapicam error message

2005-01-17 Thread Galanaki, Dimitrios
Hello All,

I am referring to the standard non-critical kernel error message:

cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present 

This occurs when one compiles the device atapicam to access the atapi CD
through the SCSI interface. In addition to this message there is a very
annoying 30 something second delay.

1) Does anyone know the origin of this message?
2) How do I get rid of it without having to put a CD in the tray before a
boot?

I have been google about this problem for quite a while but with not much
luck, so any information would be appreciated.

D.
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Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3 - found the problem!

2005-01-17 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Tuesday 18 January 2005 07:19, Ian Moore wrote:
>
> Now I'm not sure what the best way to get around this would be. I run a
> caching name server on the machine, so I guess I can tweak it to force
> localhost.foo.com resolve to 127.0.0.1

I'm running ntpd and a caching nameserver on one machine, too. The external IP 
is only referenced by /etc/hosts. My bind holds only the internal networks, 
including it's own localhost. There also could be some influence from 
your /etc/resolv.conf, but I'm not sure about.  

# dig localhost.matrix.net

; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> localhost.matrix.net
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47348
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;localhost.matrix.net.  IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
localhost.matrix.net.   3600IN  A   127.0.0.1

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
matrix.net. 3600IN  NS  ns.matrix.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns.matrix.net.  3600IN  A   192.168.123.1

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.123.1#53(192.168.123.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Jan 18 07:27:54 2005
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 87


# cat /etc/resolv.conf
search matrix.net
nameserver 127.0.0.1


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Re: Kernel time-keeping adjustments - how to tune?

2005-01-17 Thread Kevin Kinsey
John wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:05:22PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
 

John wrote:
   

OK - on my FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE system, as I have documented (cf:
message thread Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3), ntpd
won't run, even with an identical configuation to the 5.2.1 system
next to it.  Furthermore, when I run adjkerntz -a, it totally whacks
the system's ability to keep time - it races forward at quite a
high rate.  ntpdate runs, and sets the time correctly.
At one point, something managed to get the timekeeping parameters
pretty near normal - less than a second of drift per hour (much
better than the 40% rate it is now - it gains about 24 seconds PER
MINUTE).  Then I ran adjkerntz -a again, just to see if it really
was the culprit.  It does seem that it is adjkerntz that is causing
(or triggering) the problem, but now I can't get the system back
to a decent time-keeping rate.  Whatever it was I stumbled across
before, I'm not finding it again now.
Now, it doesn't appear that adjkerntz itself has changed in YEARS,
so it must be some change in the system call operation, parameters,
or data structures that is causing this.
So - since I don't seem to be able to stumble across what I did
right before to get the timekeeping somewhat near normal, I am
wondering if there's a manual way to reach them.
 

I read through the cited thread, and don't see any replies;
nor do I see enough explanation to give you any magic
beans.  Of course, I'm no one's fairy godmother...
   

LOL!  No - I don't expect you to be - that'd take ALL the challenge
out of it!
 

the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.
 

Hmm, that might mean something.  What do you get from:
sysctl -a | grep timecounter
   

I don't know what all this means, but here it is...
kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0
kern.timecounter.nbinuptime: 37254938
kern.timecounter.nnanouptime: 0
kern.timecounter.nmicrouptime: 3040
kern.timecounter.nbintime: 19671985
kern.timecounter.nnanotime: 2982761
kern.timecounter.nmicrotime: 16689224
kern.timecounter.ngetbinuptime: 0
kern.timecounter.ngetnanouptime: 318046
kern.timecounter.ngetmicrouptime: 14256461
kern.timecounter.ngetbintime: 0
kern.timecounter.ngetnanotime: 0
kern.timecounter.ngetmicrotime: 3461614
kern.timecounter.nsetclock: 87
kern.timecounter.hardware: TSC
kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(800) i8254(0) dummy(-100)
kern.timecounter.tick: 1
Are these all documented somewhere?  I'm sure they must be, but
I don't know where to look...
 

I dunno; my first guess would be sysctl(8), but I don't see
that every knob is mentioned.
I've experienced a "racing" clock on some mobos (but mostly
older ones) with 5.X --- I don't remember it with 4.X, but
I've set up many more 5.X boxes now.
Setting the kern.timecounter.hardware sysctl to i8254
fixed a "racing" situation for me.  After that, things settled
down a bit, and finally ntpd could sync up with its master.
It was quite unsettling, because my secretary's time records
and emails were coming to me anywhere from 4 hours to 3 days
in the future until we figured out what was going on.  So, just
a thought, but you might try, as root:
# sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254
YMMV, of course.  If it makes things worse, you'd go back
to TSC in a similar manner.  If it helps, add this line:
kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254
to /etc/sysctl.conf.
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3

2005-01-17 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Tuesday 18 January 2005 01:09, John wrote:

> This is what goes into the log:
> Jan 17 18:04:29 pearl ntpd[838]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Jan  9 10:58:59 CST 2005
> (1) Jan 17 18:04:29 pearl ntpd[838]: bind() fd 7, family 2, port 123, addr
> 0.0.0.0,in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use

I can reproduce this, it only happens if you try start more than one 
ntp-daemons on the same interfaces. Better start this via rc.

# killall ntpd
# /etc/rc.d/ntpd start
Starting ntpd.
# /etc/rc.d/ntpd start
ntpd already running? (pid=68961).
# /etc/rc.d/ntpd stop
Stopping ntpd.

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Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3 - found the problem!

2005-01-17 Thread Ian Moore
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:50, Christian Hiris wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 January 2005 01:09, John wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:49:00PM -0600, John wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:22:48PM -0600, John wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:23:28PM +0900, Rob wrote:
> > > > > Ian Moore wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > Ever since I upgraded from 5.2.1-RELEASE to 5.3-RELEASE, I've
> > > > > > been getting the following error on boot:
> > > > > > ntpd[380]: bind() fd 7, family 28, port 123, addr fe80:1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ::204:61ff:fe46:be89, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails:
> > > > > > :: Can't assign
> > > > > >
> > > > > > requested address
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ntpd seems to be working from what I can see in it's log file,
> > > > > > but I can't do anything with ntpq to check it.
> > > > > > Wether I run it as my normal user or as root, running ntpq -p
> > > > > > always gives: ntpq: write to localhost.foo.com failed: Permission
> > > > > > denied
>
> Try to add "disable auth" to your ntp.conf.
>

I tried that, sadly it made no difference.
However, I think I've found the problem - the error message I get with ntpq is 
"write to  localhost.foo.com failed: Permission
denied".
My machine's hostname is daemon.foo.com, something I assumed was safe to use.

Well it turns out that localhost.foo.com actually exists, it resolves to 
216.234.246.150, as do lots of others like localhost.foo.org, foobar.org, 
example.org etc.

So ntpq must do a reverse name lookup for localhost. and in my case it doesn't reslove to 127.0.0.1 but to 
216.234.246.150, to which ntpq has no access - hence the Permission denied 
error!

Now I'm not sure what the best way to get around this would be. I run a 
caching name server on the machine, so I guess I can tweak it to force 
localhost.foo.com resolve to 127.0.0.1

Cheers,

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Re: Slow directory access with lots of files

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 01:32:10AM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 02:49:11PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:34:25PM +0100, Miguel Mendez wrote:
> > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:43 -0800
> > > Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > > Do you have UFS_DIRHASH in your kernel?  If you don't, or if you added
> > > > it after the disk was already populated, you'll see the benefits if
> > > > you dump, wipe and restore the disk.
> > > 
> > > Could you elaborate on that? My impression has always been that dirhash
> > > does all its magic in memory, without persistant data stored on disk.
> > 
> > No.  It's an optimized method for laying out the data on disk.  I
> > think you're confusing it with softupdates, but that still doesn't
> > work entirely that way.
> 
> No, this time it is you who are confused.  UFS_DIRHASH does not affect
> the layout on disk at all as far as I can tell.
> You are probably confusing it with the dirpref changes that were made
> back in 2001 at approximately the same time as UFS_DIRHASH was added.

Sorry, you're right!

Kris


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Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3

2005-01-17 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Tuesday 18 January 2005 05:23, Rob wrote:
> Christian Hiris wrote:
> > On the server ntp.matrix.net I run ntpd with the following config files
> > (This machine still runs 5.3-BETA-4):
> >
> > # cat /etc/rc.conf | grep ntp
> > ntpdate_flags="-b clock.netcetera.dk tick.keso.fi"
> > ntpdate_enable="YES"
> > ntpd_enable="YES"
> > - -
>
> No need for "ntpdate -b".
> Following has same effect, using the time servers from ntp.conf:
>
>   xntpd_enable="YES"
>   xntpd_flags="-g"

Thanks, I know this, but old the old ntpdate method has been reported to be 
faster. The use of xntpd* variables has been deprecated some time ago.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/rc.subr.diff?r1=1.3&r2=1.4&f=h

Cheers,
ch

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Re: Kernel time-keeping adjustments - how to tune?

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 05:17:12PM -0700, Danny MacMillan wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:12:46PM -0600, John wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:05:22PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> > > John wrote:
> > > 
> > > >OK - on my FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE system, as I have documented (cf:
> > > >message thread Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3), ntpd
> > > >won't run, even with an identical configuation to the 5.2.1 system
> > > >next to it.  Furthermore, when I run adjkerntz -a, it totally whacks
> > > >the system's ability to keep time - it races forward at quite a
> > > >high rate.  ntpdate runs, and sets the time correctly.
> > > >
> > > >At one point, something managed to get the timekeeping parameters
> > > >pretty near normal - less than a second of drift per hour (much
> > > >better than the 40% rate it is now - it gains about 24 seconds PER
> > > >MINUTE).  Then I ran adjkerntz -a again, just to see if it really
> > > >was the culprit.  It does seem that it is adjkerntz that is causing
> > > >(or triggering) the problem, but now I can't get the system back
> > > >to a decent time-keeping rate.  Whatever it was I stumbled across
> > > >before, I'm not finding it again now.
> > > >
> > > >Now, it doesn't appear that adjkerntz itself has changed in YEARS,
> > > >so it must be some change in the system call operation, parameters,
> > > >or data structures that is causing this.
> > > >
> > > >So - since I don't seem to be able to stumble across what I did
> > > >right before to get the timekeeping somewhat near normal, I am
> > > >wondering if there's a manual way to reach them.
> > > 
> > > I read through the cited thread, and don't see any replies;
> > > nor do I see enough explanation to give you any magic
> > > beans.  Of course, I'm no one's fairy godmother...
> > 
> > LOL!  No - I don't expect you to be - that'd take ALL the challenge
> > out of it!
> > 
> > > > the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
> > > > It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hmm, that might mean something.  What do you get from:
> > > 
> > > sysctl -a | grep timecounter
> > 
> > I don't know what all this means, but here it is...
> > kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0
> > kern.timecounter.nbinuptime: 37254938
> > kern.timecounter.nnanouptime: 0
> > kern.timecounter.nmicrouptime: 3040
> > kern.timecounter.nbintime: 19671985
> > kern.timecounter.nnanotime: 2982761
> > kern.timecounter.nmicrotime: 16689224
> > kern.timecounter.ngetbinuptime: 0
> > kern.timecounter.ngetnanouptime: 318046
> > kern.timecounter.ngetmicrouptime: 14256461
> > kern.timecounter.ngetbintime: 0
> > kern.timecounter.ngetnanotime: 0
> > kern.timecounter.ngetmicrotime: 3461614
> > kern.timecounter.nsetclock: 87
> > kern.timecounter.hardware: TSC
> > kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(800) i8254(0) dummy(-100)
> > kern.timecounter.tick: 1
> > 
> > Are these all documented somewhere?  I'm sure they must be, but
> > I don't know where to look...
> > 
> > > ??
> > > 
> > > IANAE, but I wonder if ntpd is going to be able to sync
> > 
> > Well, maybe you will be soon.  An "expert" is anyone who makes
> > three consecutive correct guesses on the same topic... :)
> > 
> > > up until the local clock runs realistically
> > 
> > Well, I thought of that, too, and during the period between when I
> > had it running decently and before I decided to try (all too
> > successfully) to recreate the problem with adjkerntz, I did
> > try ntpd again, but with the same results.  It simply acted like
> > it could not see the server.
> 
> There are limits to ntpd's ability.  It can't correct for an inaccuracy
> in the local timecounter of more than around 500 ppm.  I'm not sure
> what happens when the actual offset is 400 000 ppm ... it could be the
> behaviour you're seeing.
> 
> I see that Kevin has already asked about timecounter.  I was about to
> suggest the same.  My server at work had much the same problem as yours
> (the clock raced at nearly double the proper speed).  I resolved the
> issue by instructing the server to use an alternative timecounter.  I
> put the following in my /etc/sysctl.conf and rebooted (this is on a
> 5.1 system):
> 
> kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254
> 
> In my case, the bogus timecounter was one labelled "ACPI-Safe" in the
> dmesg output.  I would try the i8254 if I were you, since it looks like
> it's the only other option available.  Hopefully the i8254 will fall
> within the operating tolerances of ntpd.

Awright

I don't know how this happens, but using TSC(whatever that is),
the clock skew is all over the dang map!  With the i8254, it's VERY
stable.

It didn't help with ntpd, which is still saying
Jan 17 22:26:17 pearl ntpd[1897]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Jan  9 10:58:59 CST 2005 (1)
Jan 17 22:26:17 pearl ntpd[1897]: bind() fd 7, family 2, port 123, addr 
0.0.0.0, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use
even though netstat doesn't show anything bound to port 123 before
I start it.

But I'm not gaining

Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3

2005-01-17 Thread Rob
Christian Hiris wrote:
On the server ntp.matrix.net I run ntpd with the following config files (This 
machine still runs 5.3-BETA-4):

# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep ntp
ntpdate_flags="-b clock.netcetera.dk tick.keso.fi"
ntpdate_enable="YES"
ntpd_enable="YES"
- -
No need for "ntpdate -b".
Following has same effect, using the time servers from ntp.conf:
 xntpd_enable="YES"
 xntpd_flags="-g"
At least, that's how I use it.
Rob.

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Re: KPDF and KGhostView errors

2005-01-17 Thread RW
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 03:46, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> I'm getting an error when trying to view PDFs with these applications:
>
> ghostscript: unknown device x11
>
> I have ghostscript version 7.07 installed and was able to view PDFs as
> recently as a few days ago.  Acrobat Reader won't even start now, so I
> don't know if these are related.
>
> I've been upgrading my ports daily, so it might be due to a recent
> upgrade.  Is anyone else experiencing this?


I got this error once because I had a  ghostscript nox port installed. 
Actually, I think I had two versions simultaneously, one of which was a nox 
version (not sure how that happened). Anyway I deinstalled the offending 
version and fixed the depedencies, (I may also have forced a rebuild) and it 
worked.
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Re: gmirror: replacing failed disks

2005-01-17 Thread Doug Poland
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 11:14:48PM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote:
> On Sunday 16 January 2005 21:14, Doug Poland wrote:
> >
> > (My system has a provider gm0s1 with ad4 and ad6 as consumers, so
> > I'll use those device names)
> >
> > Simulate ad4 failing:
> >
> > pull the drive
> > put the drive back in, reboot if necessary to detect drive
> 
> After you put the drive in, you can try to attach or reinit the
> controller channel where it's connected to with the command
> 'atacontrol'.
> 
did that, atacontrol reinit 2, and the drive shows up, yee haw!

> If you put the same drive in, and you haven't zeroed the bootblocks
> and the slicetable (on ad4) geom will recognice that the missing disk
> has been re-attached and will start rebuilding. 
> 
That's not happening, gmirror says:

GEOM_MIRROR: Component ad4 (device gm0s1) broken, skipping.
GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot add disk ad4 to gm0s1 (error=22).

> If you want to simulate insertion of a blank disk, run the 'gmirror
> forget' 
>
I'll try this after I've got the above working :)

Hey, thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate it.

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KPDF and KGhostView errors

2005-01-17 Thread Trey Sizemore
I'm getting an error when trying to view PDFs with these applications:

ghostscript: unknown device x11

I have ghostscript version 7.07 installed and was able to view PDFs as
recently as a few days ago.  Acrobat Reader won't even start now, so I
don't know if these are related.

I've been upgrading my ports daily, so it might be due to a recent
upgrade.  Is anyone else experiencing this?

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Re: /usr full from wrong cvsup install

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Maglione
Marty Landman wrote:
Cryptic enough subject?
Here's what I think is my biggest problem at the moment; my fbsd (4.8 
fm. mini-iso) is a small box having only 3 gb on two hard drives.

Unfortunately I didn't do anything selective - like leave out x11 when 
I did

---
Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
# cd ../cvsup
# make install clean
---
which resulted in
---
fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/fcpackage.2_1.tar.gz: 
Host not found
>> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
>> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
---
which I didn't understand. But I do understand
# df
Filesystem  1K-blocks   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a516062  35154 439624 7%/
/dev/ad1s1f516062  2 474776 0%/mnt
/dev/ad0s1f170334  51912 10479633%/tmp
/dev/ad1s1e   1032142 935616  1395699%/usr
/dev/ad0s1e170334   1386 155322 1%/var
procfs  4  4  0   100%/proc
#
This says that I blew my 1GB /usr, right?
Heh, funny thing is I lost my last installation when trying to clean 
up a similar problem.

What now?
Marty
You still have 104MB left on it, and that has nothing to do with the 
cvsup install not working.
"Host not found"
It's a problem with dns, directly or due to something like incomplete 
routing tables.

What should we tell you besides "get a new (or old, for that matter) 
hard drive"?
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Re: X11 configuration at 5.3 ?

2005-01-17 Thread Mike Jeays
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 19:21, John wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 07:12:16PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 10:24, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > > On 2005-01-17 14:44, Frank Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > how is called the X11 configuration tool at 5.3 ?
> > > 
> > > It is called `xorgcfg'.  Try running as root:
> > > 
> > >   # xorgcfg -textmode
> > > 
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> > I had a lot of difficulty when I installed 5.3, even though I have been
> > configuring X since FreeBSD 2.1.5.  The tools seem to have taken a step
> > backwards with xorg.  xorgcfg -textmode seems to result in a bad
> > configuration file, and in graphical mode, it is very obscure, and does
> > not show scroll bars on list boxes and the like.
> > 
> > Having to run Knoppix (which gets it right without asking any questions
> > at all) isn't a very satisfying solution.
> 
> I agree about the tools, but...
> 
> I am having VERY good luck with the steps in section 5.4 of
> the handbook:
> 1) X -configure
> 2) Test the config where it stands by starting X directly
> 3) Add monitor or any other information you need
> 4) Copy it to a standard location
> Done!  Up and running! (but see the handbook pages)
> 
> For laptops, I have found it very helpful to glean the flat panel display
> info from /var/logs/Xorg.0.log where it is put.
> 
> I have had very BAD luck using the config scripts.  They left me with
> locked up or unreadable systems.

Yes, next time I am going to follow the handbook to the letter!  And I
shall also carefully preserve my old configuration files, just in case.

By now, I have installed several Linux distributions, and last night I
tried Freesbie 1.1 for the first time.  They all seem to get the right
answers automatically, which proves it can be done at least for some
machines.

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Christian Hiris
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> Hello Xian,
>
> sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
> problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

If you use this in a multiuser environment, please also read about the 
securtity considerations of options "ForwardX11" and "ForwardX11Trusted" in 
'man 5 ssh_config' . 

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Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3

2005-01-17 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Tuesday 18 January 2005 01:09, John wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:49:00PM -0600, John wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:22:48PM -0600, John wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:23:28PM +0900, Rob wrote:
> > > > Ian Moore wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > Ever since I upgraded from 5.2.1-RELEASE to 5.3-RELEASE, I've been
> > > > > getting the following error on boot:
> > > > > ntpd[380]: bind() fd 7, family 28, port 123, addr fe80:1
> > > > >
> > > > > ::204:61ff:fe46:be89, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Can't
> > > > > :: assign
> > > > >
> > > > > requested address
> > > > >
> > > > > ntpd seems to be working from what I can see in it's log file, but
> > > > > I can't do anything with ntpq to check it.
> > > > > Wether I run it as my normal user or as root, running ntpq -p
> > > > > always gives: ntpq: write to localhost.foo.com failed: Permission
> > > > > denied

Try to add "disable auth" to your ntp.conf. 

> > > > I had once a problem with ntpd, when also running named. Some
> > > > hostname resolution failed, because the servers were started in the
> > > > wrong order. Are you also running named?
> > > >
> > > > > Here is my ntpd entries in rc.conf:
> > > > > ntpd_enable="YES"   # Run ntpd Network Time Protocol
> > > > > (or NO). ntpd_program="/usr/sbin/ntpd"   # path to ntpd, if you
> > > > > want a different one. ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp.conf -p
> > > > > /var/run/ntpd.pid"
> > > >
> > > > I use:
> > > >   ntpd_enable="YES"
> > > >   ntpd_flags="-g"
> > > >
> > > > > and the contents of ntp.conf:
> > > > > server  210.48.130.204
> > > > > server  augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au
> > > > > driftfile   /var/db/ntpd.drift
> > > > > logfile /var/log/ntpd
> > > >
> > > > And here I use:
> > > >   driftfile /var/db/ntpd.drift
> > > >   pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid
> > > >   server nr1.time.server
> > > >   server nr2.time.server
> > > >   server nr3.time.server
> > >
> > > OK - this is interesting!
> > >
> > > I have identical ntp.conf files on my 5.2.1 system and my 5.3-STABLE
> > > system.  Guess what?  The 5.2.1 system works, and the 5.3-STABLE system
> > > doesn't.  Not only that, but the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is
> > > RACING. It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.
> > >
> > > Here's the ntp.conf file:
> > > # stratum 3 time server
> > > server 192.168.1.1
> > >
> > > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
> > >
> > > In both cases, name resolution is working.  On the 5.2.1 system, ntpdc
> > > shows:
> > > ntpdc> peers
> > >  remote   local  st poll reach  delay   offsetdisp
> > > ===
> > > *dexter.starfire 192.168.1.52 3   64  377 0.00073  0.060184 0.00093
> > > ntpdc>
> > >
> > > On the 5.3-STABLE system, it ntpdc shows:
> > > ntpdc> peers
> > >  remote   local  st poll reach  delay   offsetdisp
> > > ===
> > > =dexter.starfire 192.168.1.5316   640 0.0  0.00 0.0
> > > ntpdc>
> > >
> > > This shows that DNS is working fine, as the remote name is being
> > > correctly resolved.  (I know I'm showing some of my IP numbers, but
> > > it's all NAT).
> > >
> > > I'm afraid something is broke!
> > >
> > > Oh, and ntpdate works on the 5.3 system just fine (when ntpd isn't
> > > running, of course).
> > >
> > > The system that is running 5.3-STABLE was a good time keeper before
> > > this update (4.9-STABLE).
> >
> > OK.  An update.
> >
> > I ran
> > "ntpdate 192.168.1.1 ; ntpdate 192.168.1.1 ; ntpdate 192.168.1.1" and
> > suddenly, I'm keeping time MUCH better!
> >
> > My current theory is that whatever is going wrong with adjkerntz,
> > it messed up the kernel time keeping adjustment, and when I ran ntpdate
> > close enough together that it was able to use adjtime rather than
> > stepping the time, that helped things out greatly.
> >
> > ntpd still doesn't work, but my system is keeping time much better!
> > MUCH better!
>
> Stranger and stranger.
>
> Well, since ntp kept RUNNING, I neglected to check the logs.  Shame on me.
>
> This is what goes into the log:
> Jan 17 18:04:29 pearl ntpd[838]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Jan  9 10:58:59 CST 2005
> (1) Jan 17 18:04:29 pearl ntpd[838]: bind() fd 7, family 2, port 123, addr
> 0.0.0.0,in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use
>
> HOWEVER, when I do a netstat -na | grep "\.12" before running it, there
> is no matches.
> After running it (and getting the error, but it stays running,
> and non-functional), I get:
> udp4   0  0  192.168.1.53.123   *.*
> udp6   0  0  fe80:5::206:25ff.123   *.*
> udp6   0  0  fe80:4::1.123  *.*
> udp6   0  0  ::1.123*.*
> udp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.123  *.*
> udp6   0  0  fe80:1::2d0:59ff.123   *.*
> udp6   0  0  *.123  

Re: programming languages and visual programming under FreeBSD

2005-01-17 Thread Tabor Kelly
koen de wijs wrote:
Hallo, I'm just new wtih unix and FreeBSD and I have a question about 
programming languages, I want to learn some of them but don't know where 
to start.
C, it was the first programming language that I learned, so I may be a 
little biased. However, it is not that hard to learn, and tied closely 
enough with the hardware that you will probably learn some things about 
hardware as you go.

I heard that C is the most powerfull language under unix and almost the 
complete system is written under it.
You can do everything with it. Where is a good toturial?
I don't remember what book I used to learn it. Right now I have the 
O'Reilly book _Practical C Programming_, but I don't know if it is as 
good as it could be.

If you decide that you want to learn C++ instead, I like _Using C++_ but 
my wife says _C++ Primer Plus_.

Can you read and write directly with the printer port or does the 
kernell block that?? I got a programm from someone that putted some 
assmebler in his c programm to adress the printer port.
And where can I find an overview of all the *.h files that you can use 
under FreeBSD
As others have noted, don't do this.

The other languages that I know are:
Perl, I could only find that it is especially for tasks for your system 
and that it's based on C
Shell scripts, for tasks for your systems and simple programms
Python.
Good, I think you will find that knowing Perl and C is a very good 
combination.

What are the advantages of these languages above C...
Faster development time... for example string manipulation of any sort 
in C is far more difficult than Perl. However, their are some things 
that you can do in C far more efficiently than in a higher level language.

PS- Java is a nice language if you want to learn something purely object 
oriented. However, some people object to Sun's politics.

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Maglione
Kris Maglione wrote:
what's in your ~/.xinitrc ?
you may be running twm or the like.
Oh, you're trying to run twm. I guess that's not what's running, then.


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Re: can't build a gettext package

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 08:00:35PM -0500, daniel quinn wrote:
> On January 17, 2005 07:43 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 06:57:23PM -0500, daniel quinn wrote:
> > > On January 17, 2005 06:16 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > > Those files are expected to be installed when the package is built on
> > > > FreeBSD.  Since your system didn't build them, there must be something
> > > > different about it.  You could check the output of the configure and
> > > > build scripts to find out why, or just use a precompiled package from
> > > > the FTP site if you don't care this much.
> > >
> > > there's not much different with this machine when compared to a default
> > > install other than the make.conf file, which i've been experimenting
> > > with. maybe i've gibbled something in there?:
> > >
> > >   CC=gcc
> > >   CXX=g++
> > >   CPUTYPE?=p3
> > >   CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe
> >
> > You definitely don't want this if you're on 4.x.
> 
> i'm running 5.3-RELEASE.  is this still not ok?

Yes, in fact.  Use the default setting.  5.3-STABLE uses -O2 -pipe
-fno-strict-alias (the latter is important), but I'm not certain this
will work on 5.3-RELEASE.

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
>> I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
>> locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.
>> 
>> I start X with just xterm for testing:
>> 
>>  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
>> 
>> and then type
>> 
>>  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
>
>Hello Xian,
>
>sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
>problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

Several conditions have to be met to forward X11 using ssh/openssh:

  1.  The sshd_config file on the machine you're connecting to has to have
  ``X11Forwarding yes'' set.

  2.  On the client machine, the ssh_config file needs ``ForwardX11 yes''
  or the ssh command must use the ``-X'' option.

  3.  On newer versions of openssh, the client ssh_config must have
  ``ForwardX11Trusted yes''.

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Re: purpose of /var/backups

2005-01-17 Thread Daniel Bye
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 04:04:52PM -0600, Doug Poland wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On my 5.3-STABLE systems I have a directory in /var called backups.  A
> view of man hier says: 
> 
>backups/   miscellaneous backup files
> 
> with files like:
> 
>   aliases.bak
>   aliases.bak2
>   group.bak
>   group.bak2
>   master.passwd.bak
>   master.passwd.bak2
> 
> I'm curious, what process are writing these files to this directory?

periodic daily is at work here.

--->$ find /etc/periodic -name '*backup*'
/etc/periodic/daily/200.backup-passwd
/etc/periodic/daily/210.backup-aliases

> Does something depend on these files existing?

Potentially, your ability to recover your system should any of the files
backed up become corrupted or compromised.

Dan

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread cpghost
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
> I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
> locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.
> 
> I start X with just xterm for testing:
> 
>  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
> 
> and then type
> 
>  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm

Hello Xian,

sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

> in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
> 
> Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
> managers work locally.
> 
> Any help much appreciated.
> -- 
> /Xian

Good luck,
-cpghost.

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Re: can't build a gettext package

2005-01-17 Thread daniel quinn
On January 17, 2005 07:43 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 06:57:23PM -0500, daniel quinn wrote:
> > On January 17, 2005 06:16 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > Those files are expected to be installed when the package is built on
> > > FreeBSD.  Since your system didn't build them, there must be something
> > > different about it.  You could check the output of the configure and
> > > build scripts to find out why, or just use a precompiled package from
> > > the FTP site if you don't care this much.
> >
> > there's not much different with this machine when compared to a default
> > install other than the make.conf file, which i've been experimenting
> > with. maybe i've gibbled something in there?:
> >
> >   CC=gcc
> >   CXX=g++
> >   CPUTYPE?=p3
> >   CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe
>
> You definitely don't want this if you're on 4.x.

i'm running 5.3-RELEASE.  is this still not ok?

> >   CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized
>
> You probably don't want this.

k thanks.

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Re: can't build a gettext package

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 06:57:23PM -0500, daniel quinn wrote:
> On January 17, 2005 06:16 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > Those files are expected to be installed when the package is built on
> > FreeBSD.  Since your system didn't build them, there must be something
> > different about it.  You could check the output of the configure and
> > build scripts to find out why, or just use a precompiled package from
> > the FTP site if you don't care this much.
> 
> there's not much different with this machine when compared to a default 
> install other than the make.conf file, which i've been experimenting with.  
> maybe i've gibbled something in there?:
> 
>   CC=gcc
>   CXX=g++
>   CPUTYPE?=p3
>   CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe

You definitely don't want this if you're on 4.x.

>   CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized

You probably don't want this.

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racoon and WinXP

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Maglione
I'm trying to use windows xp on my laptop to test the performance of my 
wifi adapter vs the freebsd ath driver (which is performing horribly), 
but I can't get the windows isakmp implementation to negotiate a psk 
with racoon. tcpdump gives me things like:

19:28:04.011379 0:50:fc:e8:dd:ae 0:f:b5:34:3d:9b ip 286: 
192.168.1.1.isakmp > 192.168.1.254.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 I agg: [|sa]
19:28:04.012103 0:f:b5:34:3d:9b 0:50:fc:e8:dd:ae ip 98: 
192.168.1.254.isakmp > 192.168.1.1.isakmp: isakmp: phase 2/others R inf: 
[|n]
19:28:05.680401 0:f:b5:34:3d:9b 0:50:fc:e8:dd:ae ip 77: 
192.168.1.254.1036 > 192.168.0.1.domain:  30+ A? crl.microsoft.com. (35)
19:28:24.029320 0:50:fc:e8:dd:ae 0:f:b5:34:3d:9b ip 286: 
192.168.1.1.isakmp > 192.168.1.254.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 I agg: [|sa]
19:28:24.030058 0:f:b5:34:3d:9b 0:50:fc:e8:dd:ae ip 98: 
192.168.1.254.isakmp > 192.168.1.1.isakmp: isakmp: phase 2/others R inf: 
[|n]
19:28:44.047271 0:50:fc:e8:dd:ae 0:f:b5:34:3d:9b ip 286: 
192.168.1.1.isakmp > 192.168.1.254.isakmp: isakmp: phase 1 I agg: [|sa]
19:28:44.047982 0:f:b5:34:3d:9b 0:50:fc:e8:dd:ae ip 98: 
192.168.1.254.isakmp > 192.168.1.1.isakmp: isakmp: phase 2/others R inf: 
[|n]

btw, anyone have an idea what's trying to talk to crl.microsoft.com?
and racoon -F -v gives me things like:
2005-01-17 19:19:53: INFO: isakmp.c:813:isakmp_ph1begin_i(): begin 
Aggressive mode.
2005-01-17 19:21:53: ERROR: isakmp.c:1447:isakmp_ph1resend(): phase1 
negotiation failed due to time up. b50ba08611fb67ea:
2005-01-17 19:22:14: ERROR: isakmp.c:1786:isakmp_chkph1there(): phase2 
negotiation failed due to time up waiting for phase1. ESP 
192.168.1.254->192.168.1.1
2005-01-17 19:22:14: INFO: isakmp.c:1791:isakmp_chkph1there(): delete 
phase 2 handler.
2005-01-17 19:27:04: INFO: isakmp.c:1694:isakmp_post_acquire(): IPsec-SA 
request for 192.168.1.254 queued due to no phase1 found.
2005-01-17 19:27:04: INFO: isakmp.c:808:isakmp_ph1begin_i(): initiate 
new phase 1 negotiation: 192.168.1.1[500]<=>192.168.1.254[500]
2005-01-17 19:27:04: INFO: isakmp.c:813:isakmp_ph1begin_i(): begin 
Aggressive mode.

Any ideas?
I'll post the config file if you want, but trying to describe the 
windows settings is more than a bitch. They both have the same key, I'll 
tell you that much. I set the timeouts in the racoon conf file to 140 secs.

Thanks.


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Re: Slow directory access with lots of files

2005-01-17 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 02:49:11PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:34:25PM +0100, Miguel Mendez wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:43 -0800
> > Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > Do you have UFS_DIRHASH in your kernel?  If you don't, or if you added
> > > it after the disk was already populated, you'll see the benefits if
> > > you dump, wipe and restore the disk.
> > 
> > Could you elaborate on that? My impression has always been that dirhash
> > does all its magic in memory, without persistant data stored on disk.
> 
> No.  It's an optimized method for laying out the data on disk.  I
> think you're confusing it with softupdates, but that still doesn't
> work entirely that way.

No, this time it is you who are confused.  UFS_DIRHASH does not affect
the layout on disk at all as far as I can tell.
You are probably confusing it with the dirpref changes that were made
back in 2001 at approximately the same time as UFS_DIRHASH was added.


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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Maglione
what's in your ~/.xinitrc ?
you may be running twm or the like.
Xian wrote:
I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.

I start X with just xterm for testing:
startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
and then type
ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
managers work locally.

Any help much appreciated.
 




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Re: X11 configuration at 5.3 ?

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 07:12:16PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 10:24, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > On 2005-01-17 14:44, Frank Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > how is called the X11 configuration tool at 5.3 ?
> > 
> > It is called `xorgcfg'.  Try running as root:
> > 
> > # xorgcfg -textmode
> > 
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> I had a lot of difficulty when I installed 5.3, even though I have been
> configuring X since FreeBSD 2.1.5.  The tools seem to have taken a step
> backwards with xorg.  xorgcfg -textmode seems to result in a bad
> configuration file, and in graphical mode, it is very obscure, and does
> not show scroll bars on list boxes and the like.
> 
> Having to run Knoppix (which gets it right without asking any questions
> at all) isn't a very satisfying solution.

I agree about the tools, but...

I am having VERY good luck with the steps in section 5.4 of
the handbook:
1) X -configure
2) Test the config where it stands by starting X directly
3) Add monitor or any other information you need
4) Copy it to a standard location
Done!  Up and running! (but see the handbook pages)

For laptops, I have found it very helpful to glean the flat panel display
info from /var/logs/Xorg.0.log where it is put.

I have had very BAD luck using the config scripts.  They left me with
locked up or unreadable systems.
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Re: Kernel time-keeping adjustments - how to tune?

2005-01-17 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:12:46PM -0600, John wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:05:22PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> > John wrote:
> > 
> > >OK - on my FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE system, as I have documented (cf:
> > >message thread Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3), ntpd
> > >won't run, even with an identical configuation to the 5.2.1 system
> > >next to it.  Furthermore, when I run adjkerntz -a, it totally whacks
> > >the system's ability to keep time - it races forward at quite a
> > >high rate.  ntpdate runs, and sets the time correctly.
> > >
> > >At one point, something managed to get the timekeeping parameters
> > >pretty near normal - less than a second of drift per hour (much
> > >better than the 40% rate it is now - it gains about 24 seconds PER
> > >MINUTE).  Then I ran adjkerntz -a again, just to see if it really
> > >was the culprit.  It does seem that it is adjkerntz that is causing
> > >(or triggering) the problem, but now I can't get the system back
> > >to a decent time-keeping rate.  Whatever it was I stumbled across
> > >before, I'm not finding it again now.
> > >
> > >Now, it doesn't appear that adjkerntz itself has changed in YEARS,
> > >so it must be some change in the system call operation, parameters,
> > >or data structures that is causing this.
> > >
> > >So - since I don't seem to be able to stumble across what I did
> > >right before to get the timekeeping somewhat near normal, I am
> > >wondering if there's a manual way to reach them.
> > 
> > I read through the cited thread, and don't see any replies;
> > nor do I see enough explanation to give you any magic
> > beans.  Of course, I'm no one's fairy godmother...
> 
> LOL!  No - I don't expect you to be - that'd take ALL the challenge
> out of it!
> 
> > > the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
> > > It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.
> > 
> > 
> > Hmm, that might mean something.  What do you get from:
> > 
> > sysctl -a | grep timecounter
> 
> I don't know what all this means, but here it is...
> kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0
> kern.timecounter.nbinuptime: 37254938
> kern.timecounter.nnanouptime: 0
> kern.timecounter.nmicrouptime: 3040
> kern.timecounter.nbintime: 19671985
> kern.timecounter.nnanotime: 2982761
> kern.timecounter.nmicrotime: 16689224
> kern.timecounter.ngetbinuptime: 0
> kern.timecounter.ngetnanouptime: 318046
> kern.timecounter.ngetmicrouptime: 14256461
> kern.timecounter.ngetbintime: 0
> kern.timecounter.ngetnanotime: 0
> kern.timecounter.ngetmicrotime: 3461614
> kern.timecounter.nsetclock: 87
> kern.timecounter.hardware: TSC
> kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(800) i8254(0) dummy(-100)
> kern.timecounter.tick: 1
> 
> Are these all documented somewhere?  I'm sure they must be, but
> I don't know where to look...
> 
> > ??
> > 
> > IANAE, but I wonder if ntpd is going to be able to sync
> 
> Well, maybe you will be soon.  An "expert" is anyone who makes
> three consecutive correct guesses on the same topic... :)
> 
> > up until the local clock runs realistically
> 
> Well, I thought of that, too, and during the period between when I
> had it running decently and before I decided to try (all too
> successfully) to recreate the problem with adjkerntz, I did
> try ntpd again, but with the same results.  It simply acted like
> it could not see the server.

There are limits to ntpd's ability.  It can't correct for an inaccuracy
in the local timecounter of more than around 500 ppm.  I'm not sure
what happens when the actual offset is 400 000 ppm ... it could be the
behaviour you're seeing.

I see that Kevin has already asked about timecounter.  I was about to
suggest the same.  My server at work had much the same problem as yours
(the clock raced at nearly double the proper speed).  I resolved the
issue by instructing the server to use an alternative timecounter.  I
put the following in my /etc/sysctl.conf and rebooted (this is on a
5.1 system):

kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254

In my case, the bogus timecounter was one labelled "ACPI-Safe" in the
dmesg output.  I would try the i8254 if I were you, since it looks like
it's the only other option available.  Hopefully the i8254 will fall
within the operating tolerances of ntpd.

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Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:49:00PM -0600, John wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:22:48PM -0600, John wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:23:28PM +0900, Rob wrote:
> > > Ian Moore wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Ever since I upgraded from 5.2.1-RELEASE to 5.3-RELEASE, I've been 
> > > > getting the 
> > > > following error on boot:
> > > > ntpd[380]: bind() fd 7, family 28, port 123, addr fe80:1
> > > > ::204:61ff:fe46:be89, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Can't 
> > > > assign 
> > > > requested address
> > > > 
> > > > ntpd seems to be working from what I can see in it's log file, but I 
> > > > can't do 
> > > > anything with ntpq to check it. 
> > > > Wether I run it as my normal user or as root, running ntpq -p always 
> > > > gives:
> > > > ntpq: write to localhost.foo.com failed: Permission denied
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I had once a problem with ntpd, when also running named. Some hostname
> > > resolution failed, because the servers were started in the wrong order.
> > > Are you also running named?
> > > 
> > > > Here is my ntpd entries in rc.conf:
> > > > ntpd_enable="YES"   # Run ntpd Network Time Protocol (or 
> > > > NO).
> > > > ntpd_program="/usr/sbin/ntpd"   # path to ntpd, if you want a different 
> > > > one.
> > > > ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid"
> > > 
> > > I use:
> > >   ntpd_enable="YES"
> > >   ntpd_flags="-g"
> > > 
> > > > and the contents of ntp.conf:
> > > > server  210.48.130.204
> > > > server  augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au
> > > > driftfile   /var/db/ntpd.drift
> > > > logfile /var/log/ntpd
> > > 
> > > And here I use:
> > >   driftfile /var/db/ntpd.drift
> > >   pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid
> > >   server nr1.time.server
> > >   server nr2.time.server
> > >   server nr3.time.server
> > 
> > OK - this is interesting!
> > 
> > I have identical ntp.conf files on my 5.2.1 system and my 5.3-STABLE
> > system.  Guess what?  The 5.2.1 system works, and the 5.3-STABLE system
> > doesn't.  Not only that, but the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
> > It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.
> > 
> > Here's the ntp.conf file:
> > # stratum 3 time server
> > server 192.168.1.1
> > 
> > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
> > 
> > In both cases, name resolution is working.  On the 5.2.1 system, ntpdc
> > shows:
> > ntpdc> peers
> >  remote   local  st poll reach  delay   offsetdisp
> > ===
> > *dexter.starfire 192.168.1.52 3   64  377 0.00073  0.060184 0.00093
> > ntpdc>
> > 
> > On the 5.3-STABLE system, it ntpdc shows:
> > ntpdc> peers
> >  remote   local  st poll reach  delay   offsetdisp
> > ===
> > =dexter.starfire 192.168.1.5316   640 0.0  0.00 0.0
> > ntpdc>
> > 
> > This shows that DNS is working fine, as the remote name is being
> > correctly resolved.  (I know I'm showing some of my IP numbers, but
> > it's all NAT).
> > 
> > I'm afraid something is broke!
> > 
> > Oh, and ntpdate works on the 5.3 system just fine (when ntpd isn't
> > running, of course).
> > 
> > The system that is running 5.3-STABLE was a good time keeper before
> > this update (4.9-STABLE).
> 
> OK.  An update.
> 
> I ran
> "ntpdate 192.168.1.1 ; ntpdate 192.168.1.1 ; ntpdate 192.168.1.1" and
> suddenly, I'm keeping time MUCH better!
> 
> My current theory is that whatever is going wrong with adjkerntz,
> it messed up the kernel time keeping adjustment, and when I ran ntpdate
> close enough together that it was able to use adjtime rather than
> stepping the time, that helped things out greatly.
> 
> ntpd still doesn't work, but my system is keeping time much better!
> MUCH better!

Stranger and stranger.

Well, since ntp kept RUNNING, I neglected to check the logs.  Shame on me.

This is what goes into the log:
Jan 17 18:04:29 pearl ntpd[838]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Jan  9 10:58:59 CST 2005 (1)
Jan 17 18:04:29 pearl ntpd[838]: bind() fd 7, family 2, port 123, addr 
0.0.0.0,in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use

HOWEVER, when I do a netstat -na | grep "\.12" before running it, there
is no matches.
After running it (and getting the error, but it stays running,
and non-functional), I get:
udp4   0  0  192.168.1.53.123   *.*
udp6   0  0  fe80:5::206:25ff.123   *.*
udp6   0  0  fe80:4::1.123  *.*
udp6   0  0  ::1.123*.*
udp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.123  *.*
udp6   0  0  fe80:1::2d0:59ff.123   *.*
udp6   0  0  *.123  *.*
udp4   0  0  *.123  *.*

I don't get it.  It's almost like it's trying to start twice, or forking
at the wrong time, or something.  Those ports for listening look
pretty resonable, but it doesn't work, and it gives that error message.

Very odd.

It's definitely broke.  Who wants to send in t

Re: X11 configuration at 5.3 ?

2005-01-17 Thread Mike Jeays
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 10:24, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2005-01-17 14:44, Frank Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > how is called the X11 configuration tool at 5.3 ?
> 
> It is called `xorgcfg'.  Try running as root:
> 
>   # xorgcfg -textmode
> 
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I had a lot of difficulty when I installed 5.3, even though I have been
configuring X since FreeBSD 2.1.5.  The tools seem to have taken a step
backwards with xorg.  xorgcfg -textmode seems to result in a bad
configuration file, and in graphical mode, it is very obscure, and does
not show scroll bars on list boxes and the like.

Having to run Knoppix (which gets it right without asking any questions
at all) isn't a very satisfying solution.

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Re: can't build a gettext package

2005-01-17 Thread daniel quinn
On January 17, 2005 06:16 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> Those files are expected to be installed when the package is built on
> FreeBSD.  Since your system didn't build them, there must be something
> different about it.  You could check the output of the configure and
> build scripts to find out why, or just use a precompiled package from
> the FTP site if you don't care this much.

there's not much different with this machine when compared to a default 
install other than the make.conf file, which i've been experimenting with.  
maybe i've gibbled something in there?:

  CC=gcc
  CXX=g++
  CPUTYPE?=p3
  CFLAGS+= -O2 -pipe
  CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized
  NO_BLUETOOTH=   true# do not build Bluetooth related stuff
  NO_USB= true# do not build usbd(8) and related programs
  #
  # these were in there as defaults:
  #
  PERL_VER=5.8.5
  PERL_VERSION=5.8.5
  PERL_ARCH=mach
  NOPERL=yo
  NO_PERL=yo
  NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo



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Re: Kernel time-keeping adjustments - how to tune?

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:12:46PM -0600, John wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:05:22PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> > John wrote:
> > 
> > >OK - on my FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE system, as I have documented (cf:
> > >message thread Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3), ntpd
> > >won't run, even with an identical configuation to the 5.2.1 system
> > >next to it.  Furthermore, when I run adjkerntz -a, it totally whacks
> > >the system's ability to keep time - it races forward at quite a
> > >high rate.  ntpdate runs, and sets the time correctly.
> > >
> > >At one point, something managed to get the timekeeping parameters
> > >pretty near normal - less than a second of drift per hour (much
> > >better than the 40% rate it is now - it gains about 24 seconds PER
> > >MINUTE).  Then I ran adjkerntz -a again, just to see if it really
> > >was the culprit.  It does seem that it is adjkerntz that is causing
> > >(or triggering) the problem, but now I can't get the system back
> > >to a decent time-keeping rate.  Whatever it was I stumbled across
> > >before, I'm not finding it again now.
> > >
> > >Now, it doesn't appear that adjkerntz itself has changed in YEARS,
> > >so it must be some change in the system call operation, parameters,
> > >or data structures that is causing this.
> > >
> > >So - since I don't seem to be able to stumble across what I did
> > >right before to get the timekeeping somewhat near normal, I am
> > >wondering if there's a manual way to reach them.
> > 
> > I read through the cited thread, and don't see any replies;
> > nor do I see enough explanation to give you any magic
> > beans.  Of course, I'm no one's fairy godmother...
> 
> LOL!  No - I don't expect you to be - that'd take ALL the challenge
> out of it!
> 
> > > the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
> > > It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.
> > 
> > 
> > Hmm, that might mean something.  What do you get from:
> > 
> > sysctl -a | grep timecounter
> 
> I don't know what all this means, but here it is...
> kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0
> kern.timecounter.nbinuptime: 37254938
> kern.timecounter.nnanouptime: 0
> kern.timecounter.nmicrouptime: 3040
> kern.timecounter.nbintime: 19671985
> kern.timecounter.nnanotime: 2982761
> kern.timecounter.nmicrotime: 16689224
> kern.timecounter.ngetbinuptime: 0
> kern.timecounter.ngetnanouptime: 318046
> kern.timecounter.ngetmicrouptime: 14256461
> kern.timecounter.ngetbintime: 0
> kern.timecounter.ngetnanotime: 0
> kern.timecounter.ngetmicrotime: 3461614
> kern.timecounter.nsetclock: 87
> kern.timecounter.hardware: TSC
> kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(800) i8254(0) dummy(-100)
> kern.timecounter.tick: 1
> 
> Are these all documented somewhere?  I'm sure they must be, but
> I don't know where to look...
> 
> > ??
> > 
> > IANAE, but I wonder if ntpd is going to be able to sync
> 
> Well, maybe you will be soon.  An "expert" is anyone who makes
> three consecutive correct guesses on the same topic... :)
> 
> > up until the local clock runs realistically
> 
> Well, I thought of that, too, and during the period between when I
> had it running decently and before I decided to try (all too
> successfully) to recreate the problem with adjkerntz, I did
> try ntpd again, but with the same results.  It simply acted like
> it could not see the server.

Rebooting got the basic time-keeping parameters back in order.
I'll try to do some work tomorrow night to figure out what is
wrong with adjkerntz and why it is causing my clock to race.
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Re: programming languages and visual programming under FreeBSD

2005-01-17 Thread Andrea Venturoli
koen de wijs wrote:
> I heard that C is the most powerfull language under unix
Two points here: first, this is just one opinion, and one that may start 
a flame war (which I'll avoid); second, C is not just for UNIX, it's a 
platform neutral standard language. That means you can write a program 
with it and, as long as you stay away from system specific things, 
compile and run it on UNIX, Windows, Mac, you name what.
This holds true for many, but not all, languages.

C is quite powerful and I'd assess its difficulty as medium.
You might definitely want to give it a try, since it's very widespread.

> Can you read and write directly with the printer port or does the
> kernell block that?? I got a programm from someone that putted some
> assmebler in his c programm to adress the printer port.
You had better not do this. Not on any multitasking OS.

> What are the advantages of these languages above C
Without digging too deeply into it (it would require a book): C is a 
*programming language*, as opposed to *scripting* languages
The difference is quite subtle: a programming language aims at 
effectiveness and is usually to be preferred for large scale projects; a 
scripting language aims at simplicity and fast developing times.
I would say PERL and Python are scripting language, but now someone will 
fire on me :)

> and are there more programming languages under FreeBSD?
Too many to list here. From C++ and Java to oldies like Fortran and tons 
of others.
Googling a bit will surely provide you with a list.

 bye
av.
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window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Xian
I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.

I start X with just xterm for testing:

 startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm

and then type

 ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm

in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.

Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
managers work locally.

Any help much appreciated.
-- 
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/usr full from wrong cvsup install

2005-01-17 Thread Marty Landman
Cryptic enough subject?
Here's what I think is my biggest problem at the moment; my fbsd (4.8 fm. 
mini-iso) is a small box having only 3 gb on two hard drives.

Unfortunately I didn't do anything selective - like leave out x11 when I did
---
Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
# cd ../cvsup
# make install clean
---
which resulted in
---
fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/fcpackage.2_1.tar.gz: 
Host not found
>> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
>> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
---
which I didn't understand. But I do understand
# df
Filesystem  1K-blocks   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a516062  35154 439624 7%/
/dev/ad1s1f516062  2 474776 0%/mnt
/dev/ad0s1f170334  51912 10479633%/tmp
/dev/ad1s1e   1032142 935616  1395699%/usr
/dev/ad0s1e170334   1386 155322 1%/var
procfs  4  4  0   100%/proc
#
This says that I blew my 1GB /usr, right?
Heh, funny thing is I lost my last installation when trying to clean up a 
similar problem.

What now?
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Re: KDE issues after upgrade

2005-01-17 Thread Adam Smith
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 06:06:48PM +0100, gustaaf wijnands said:
> >
> did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING , entry 20041229 ?

Yeah you guys who suggested reading UPDATING were right.  I should have
known better!


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Re: Slow directory access with lots of files

2005-01-17 Thread Totem
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:09:52AM -0800, Totem wrote:
 

Hello,
I'm new to this list so please excuse me if this has been asked before 
or if I don't provide enough info.

I'm having an issue and I hope someone can help me understand what is 
happening.  I have a FreeBSD server that is running Samba.  When users 
access directories that store lots of files (3k or so), access to the 
files is very slow.  I'm guessing that it is a file system issue.  I'd 
like to troubleshoot the problem but I don't know where to start.  (In 
the mean time I have just told the users to create sub-directories and 
sort their files).  Is there anything that I can do to make things run 
faster?
   

Do you have UFS_DIRHASH in your kernel?  If you don't, or if you added
it after the disk was already populated, you'll see the benefits if
you dump, wipe and restore the disk.
Also try updating to 5.3, which is much better than the 5.2.1
developers preview release.
Kris
I will upgrade to 5.3 in the next few days and I will investigate how to 
use UFS_DIRHASH.

Thanks for the help.
Totem
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Re: bsd.port.mk problems => make failing for all ports

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 08:27:06AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yesterday, I was upgrading some KDE dependencies using portupgrade. Since then
> make fails for *every* port.
> 
> uname -a
> 
> FreeBSD gandalf 5.3-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p1 #9: Wed Dec 29 19:29:37
> UTC 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL.686.5.3  i386
> 
> e.g.,
> 
> cd /usr/ports/misc/kenny
> make
> 
> gives:
> 
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1993: warning: String comparison operator
> should be either == or !=
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1993: Malformed conditional 
> (${PKGINSTALLVER}
> < 20030417)
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1993: Need an operator
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2940: warning: String comparison operator
> should be either == or !=
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2940: Malformed conditional 
> (${PKGINSTALLVER}
> < 20040125 || ${OSVERSION} < 420001 || ${OSVERSION} >= 50 && ${OSVERSION} 
> <
> 500014)
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2940: Need an operator
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2942: if-less endif
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2942: Need an operator
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5022: if-less endif
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5022: Need an operator
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> 
> + a pkg_info.core file is generated, which from gdb indicates a Signal 11,
> segmentation fault 0x2826faad. My ports tree (and Mk files) are cvsuped to the
> latest available.

Do you have pkg_install or pkg_install-devel installed, and was this
upgraded with the others?

Kris


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Re: can't build a gettext package

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:57:25AM -0500, daniel quinn wrote:
> i've managed to build packages for everything else on the system, and gettext 
> seems to compile and install just fine, but for some reason, building the 
> package fails:
> 
>   ===>  Building package for gettext-0.14.1
>   Creating package /usr/ports/packages/All/gettext-0.14.1.tbz
>   Registering depends: libiconv-1.9.2_1.
>   Creating bzip'd tar ball in '/usr/ports/packages/All/gettext-0.14.1.tbz'
>   tar: include/autosprintf.h: Could not stat: No such file or directory
>   tar: lib/libasprintf.a: Could not stat: No such file or directory
>   tar: lib/libasprintf.so: Could not stat: No such file or directory
>   tar: lib/libasprintf.so.0: Could not stat: No such file or directory
>   tar: share/doc/libasprintf/autosprintf.html: Could not stat: No such file or
>   directory 
>   pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256
>   *** Error code 1
> 
> now i understand what the error means, what i don't understand is why the 
> error exists in the first place.  if these files aren't created with the 
> initial make, why is the packager trying to include them?  and how do i fix 
> this?

Those files are expected to be installed when the package is built on
FreeBSD.  Since your system didn't build them, there must be something
different about it.  You could check the output of the configure and
build scripts to find out why, or just use a precompiled package from
the FTP site if you don't care this much.

Kris



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Re: IPF firewalling

2005-01-17 Thread Erik Norgaard
Kövesdán Gábor wrote:
Anyway, thanks for your ideas, which were very useful for me. I'm using now
the catch-all rules as You suggested. You also mentioned, there can be some
problems with the ftp server. Could You tell me please, what You meant? Ftp
hasn't been running yet, so I can't test it, but there will also be an ftp
soon.
Setting up ftp-session is straight forward, it works as any other 
server, binds to port 21. The problem is ftp-data, you have active and 
passive. This is from the servers point of view and relates to who 
establishes the connection.

In active mode the server will connect (so server is the active end) 
_to_ the client _from_ port 20. You had a rule for _in_ coming trafic 
_to_ port 20, this should be deleted. Instead you need:

pass out proto tcp from any port = 20 to any port > 1023 flags S \
keep state keep frags
Now, since you allow any outgoing traffic you can skip this. The port > 
1023 could be left out also, but I prefer to be strict.

In pasive mode the client will connect to some port, specified by the 
server (this is really complicated). The good thing is that normally you 
can configure the server to use a specific port interval. Typically the 
range port > 49151 (dynamic range) is used. So you need something like this:

pass in proto tcp from any to any port > 49151 flags S keep state \
keep frags
All this ftp-data has sometimes effect on what you would expect to be 
ordinary ftp-session, output from some commands like ls may be sent as 
ftp-data, so if ftp-data doesn't work, you may experience that you can 
change directory but not list content and other peculiar behaviour.

I don't know how to configure this for the ftpd included in base, I use 
vsftpd which has a simple config.

Hope this explains it, otherwise, I suggest you search the rfc's or 
firewall documentation. Also, keep in mind, that if you have a gateway 
with NAT you almost always need to setup some kind of ftp-proxy to let 
your clients on the LAN connect.

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Re: tracking cvsup p5 vs STABLE ?

2005-01-17 Thread J.D. Bronson
At 04:54 PM 1/17/2005, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 04:46:24PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> can someone explain to me the difference here:
>
> FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5
>
> vs
>
> FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE
>
>
> ..I wanted to track 5.3-STABLE, but when I did that I didnt get some of 
the
> newer files (still unknown why). I was especially interested in the SMP
> fixes.
>
>
> I was having random reboots and wanted to start with a fresh 5.3 install
> and then cvsup from there, but when I tracked STABLE, I didnt get some of
> the files that 5.3-REL tracking gave me.
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> I dont want to be on BLEEDING edge, but on something more than 5.3-REL and
> yet stable.

This is described in the handbook.  Ask if you have more questions
once you've read the relevant chapter.
Kris
well it (the book) could be clearer. Your prior post explained the most to 
me.


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Re: tracking cvsup p5 vs STABLE ?

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 04:46:24PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> can someone explain to me the difference here:
> 
> FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5
> 
> vs
> 
> FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE
> 
> 
> ..I wanted to track 5.3-STABLE, but when I did that I didnt get some of the 
> newer files (still unknown why). I was especially interested in the SMP 
> fixes.
> 
> 
> I was having random reboots and wanted to start with a fresh 5.3 install 
> and then cvsup from there, but when I tracked STABLE, I didnt get some of 
> the files that 5.3-REL tracking gave me.
> 
> Am I missing something here?
> 
> I dont want to be on BLEEDING edge, but on something more than 5.3-REL and 
> yet stable.

This is described in the handbook.  Ask if you have more questions
once you've read the relevant chapter.

Kris



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Re: 5.3 Building Kernel/World

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:25:55PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote:

> >The number of changes between RELENG_5_3_0_RELEASE and RELENG_5_3 is
> >very small.  If you're seeing lots of changes, it means that you
> >didn't actually have a 5.3-RELEASE source tree installed before now,
> >which explains the problems you were seeing in compiling it.
> >
> >Kris
> >
> 
> Thats interesting.  I was using the 5.3 release CD.  The checksums 
> match those listed.  It was installed onto a re-formatted drive as I 
> wanted the UFS-2.  The source was installed as part of the original 
> installation.  Anyway, either the cvsup or the cleandirs worked.  I was 
> able to buildworld and a new kernel.  Installation of both appears to 
> have gone correctly.  uname gives the new kernel and strings of 
> /boot/kernel/kernel also shows the new name.  uname before said 
> 5.3-RELEASE.  It would appear that when I build the production systems 
> I will immediately after instalation cvsup to RELENG_5_3 and then run 
> make cleandir before anything else.  Fortunately right now I am playing 
> with test systems.
> 
> It it at all possible to not have to buildworld when building a new 
> kernel?  For example, I was trying to add option atapicam.  It would 
> seem that buildworld would not be necessary in that situation.

If you're modifying the kernel configuration and you have not updated
your sources you can use the 'config' method to build your kernels.
If you update your sources then you must use buildworld/buildkernel,
or you will occasionally encounter errors.  This is described in the
handbook in greater detail.

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 01:32:10PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> At 01:08 PM 01/17/2005, you wrote:
> >> The cvsup I am using is:
> >>
> >> *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org
> >> *default base=/var/db
> >> *default prefix=/usr
> >> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5
> >> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> >> *default compress
> >>
> >>
> >> ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated 
> >files?
> >
> >You did, weeks ago.
> 
> 
> Thats what I had thought. But the version numbers are much older than the 
> ones in the announcement.
> 
> Once I changed the tag from tag=RELENG_5 to tag=RELENG_5_3 then and only
> then did I get the correct files.
> 
> Prior to that, I tried to delete /var/db/sup and then even /usr/src
> and still I was not seeing the updated files.
> 
> I have no idea why, but I am glad that I have things working now.

The errata notice is for users of 5.3-RELEASE and not users of
5.3-STABLE.  Users of -STABLE branches are expected to monitor the CVS
commit logs if they're interested in merges of particular bug fixes.

Kris



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Re: Slow directory access with lots of files

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:34:25PM +0100, Miguel Mendez wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:43 -0800
> Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > Do you have UFS_DIRHASH in your kernel?  If you don't, or if you added
> > it after the disk was already populated, you'll see the benefits if
> > you dump, wipe and restore the disk.
> 
> Could you elaborate on that? My impression has always been that dirhash
> does all its magic in memory, without persistant data stored on disk.

No.  It's an optimized method for laying out the data on disk.  I
think you're confusing it with softupdates, but that still doesn't
work entirely that way.

Kris

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tracking cvsup p5 vs STABLE ?

2005-01-17 Thread J.D. Bronson
can someone explain to me the difference here:
FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5
vs
FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE
..I wanted to track 5.3-STABLE, but when I did that I didnt get some of the 
newer files (still unknown why). I was especially interested in the SMP fixes.

I was having random reboots and wanted to start with a fresh 5.3 install 
and then cvsup from there, but when I tracked STABLE, I didnt get some of 
the files that 5.3-REL tracking gave me.

Am I missing something here?
I dont want to be on BLEEDING edge, but on something more than 5.3-REL and 
yet stable.

thanks -
Jeff
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Re: [INFO] buildworld problems

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:52:56PM +0100, Daniel S. Haischt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> yesterday I did install compat3x & compat4x. Each of
> this port istalls a script to /usr/local/etc/rc.d
> wich executes ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/compat.
> 
> Could this be the reason for my ldconfig problem?

I doubt it.  The default ldconfig_paths is:

ldconfig_paths="/usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib"

so if your system is not seeing libraries in /usr/local/lib then this
may have been changed.  One other possibility is that you made this
directory world-writable, and ldconfig will refuse to read it.

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Re: I can't get anything from mailing list

2005-01-17 Thread CryBaby
I can't again !!!
my mail server: jazzcafe.no-ip.org

I can receive mailing-list @ freebsd.org recently, but I can't receive mail now
Some debug message below:

% less /var/log/maillog
...
Jan 18 06:17:15 jazzcafe sm-mta[10027]: j0HMFSaV010027: mx2.freebsd.org 
[216.136.204.119] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4
Jan 18 06:17:20 jazzcafe sm-mta[10028]: j0HMFXRj010028: mx2.freebsd.org 
[216.136.204.119] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4
Jan 18 06:17:23 jazzcafe sm-mta[10029]: j0HMFaHG010029: mx2.freebsd.org 
[216.136.204.119] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4
...





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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-17 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:00:25 -0800
Sandy Rutherford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:20:58 -0600, 
> > Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
>  >> Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct (
>  >just> like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files
>  >with> FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660
> 
>  > Last I checked, it required a bit more... you have to use
>  > mdconfig to create a device entry in /dev for the file so you can
>  > point mount at it.
> 
> Yes, this is true.
> 
> Sergei, this should do the job for you and your friend.  I have only
> used this up to FreeBSD 4.10.  Therefore, if vnode support is
> different in 5.x, it may need some updating.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html

Look at 16.6.2, for info on mounting a file and a example of both.
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purpose of /var/backups

2005-01-17 Thread Doug Poland
Hello,

On my 5.3-STABLE systems I have a directory in /var called backups.  A
view of man hier says: 

   backups/   miscellaneous backup files

with files like:

  aliases.bak
  aliases.bak2
  group.bak
  group.bak2
  master.passwd.bak
  master.passwd.bak2

I'm curious, what process are writing these files to this directory?
Does something depend on these files existing?

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Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?

2005-01-17 Thread Gene
Ever thought about starting one of your own?
Gene
Jim Durham wrote:
On Saturday 15 January 2005 01:12 pm, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 

Jim Durham wrote:
   

I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running
Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about
8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more.
 

OK.
   

Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the
signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented
information regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented
for an office/LAN environment.
I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT
on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on
freebsd.org.
 

Your question parses, but it is not clear what specific thing you have in
mind that would seperate an IT-oriented list from a non-IT oriented list. 
Can you either give an example question or two, or can you say why
freebsd-questions is *not* IT-oriented?
   

Sorry for the slow reply...I was out of touch for a day..
I guess I'm thinking that there are just a lot of things that you get into in 
a corporate environment . "For instances" are hard to think of off the top of 
my head, but, how about implementing Citrix NFuse on Tomcat on FreeBSD? They 
always assume Linux or Solaris or (sorry..SCO..8-) ) and while you can make 
it work on FreeBSD, you spend a lot of time fixing stuff that probably 
someone else has fixed before or conversly, you should be sharing thi info so 
others don't have to wade through the 'discovery' process.
 

Or does your question mean you looking for a list whose members are mostly
sysadmins and network managers, rather than end-users? 
   

Exactly. 

 

FreeBSD doesn't 
really make much distinction between an end-user and a sysadmin [1], but
you might find freebsd-stable or freebsd-isp to come closer to what you are
looking for.
   

What I'm saying is a list like freebsd-isp, but focused on corporate IT with 
FreeBSD.  -isp is helpful, and I *am* subscribed, but doesn't include a lot 
of IT types.

(snip)
 

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Re: [INFO] buildworld problems

2005-01-17 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
Hello,
yesterday I did install compat3x & compat4x. Each of
this port istalls a script to /usr/local/etc/rc.d
wich executes ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/compat.
Could this be the reason for my ldconfig problem?
I'll try to add /usr/local/lib/compat to ldconfig_paths
in /etc/rc.conf. Additionally I'll remove the executable
bits from the just mentioned shell scripts. Maybe that'll
help ...
Kris Kennaway schrieb:
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 08:01:06PM +0100, Daniel S. Haischt wrote:

Anyway, the problem here was that the following
line was missing in the bktr_core.c source file:
#include 
Because of the missing line, FNDELAY was undefined.

At least this one, and possibly the other, were already resolved.
cvsup and retry.
Kris

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4327b

2005-01-17 Thread Robert Maerzke
Hello,
Has anyone had any luck getting a Crystal Sound CS4327B sound card 
working with 5.3?

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RE: IPF firewalling

2005-01-17 Thread Kövesdán Gábor
Hello,


>Now reading this - maybe you left out the default action at the top of 
>the ruleset? - I only see pass rules and unless you compiled your kernel 
>with default block, then default is pass, leaving your host with no 
>effective firewall at all.
>
>Should suffice just to flush the rules, unless you compile your kernel 
>with default block. Whatever default is, it is always a good idea for 
>clarity to include a catch all rule.
>
>Also, make sure to add "log" and start ipmon, when something falls 
>through or is blocked for other reasons, you have a log entry stating 
>which rule blocked so you can debug your ruleset. - I see I left it out 
>in the default rules I suggested, these rules should go at top of the file:
>
>block out log all
>block in  log all
>
>Whatever falls through your ruleset will be logged so you can analyse it.
>
>When you flush your rulesets, the state table is not flushed, so you 
>shouldn't loose your connection. Also, I recommend you reading rules 
>into the inactive ruletable first. Then swap. This way you make sure 
>your rules does not contain typos and you don't leave your firewall/host 
>vulnerable.
>
># ipf -IFa && ipf -I -f  && ipf -s && sleep 60 && ipf -s
>
>lets you test the new ruleset 60 seconds, should you loose connection. 
>If things work then
>
># ipf -Ifa && ipf -I -f  && ipf -s && ipf -IFa

I've resolved the problem with individual pass out rules for tcp, udp and
icmp protocols. I don't know why "pass out all" was not okay, but it wasn't.
Thus my ruleset starts with these lines:

pass out quick on re0 proto tcp from any to any keep state keep frags
pass out quick on re0 proto udp from any to any keep state keep frags
pass out quick on re0 proto icmp from any to any keep state keep frags

Anyway, thanks for your ideas, which were very useful for me. I'm using now
the catch-all rules as You suggested. You also mentioned, there can be some
problems with the ftp server. Could You tell me please, what You meant? Ftp
hasn't been running yet, so I can't test it, but there will also be an ftp
soon.

Thanks,

Gábor Kövesdán

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Re: 5.3 Building Kernel/World

2005-01-17 Thread Chuck Swiger
Doug Hardie wrote:
[ ... ]
It it at all possible to not have to buildworld when building a new 
kernel?  For example, I was trying to add option atapicam.  It would 
seem that buildworld would not be necessary in that situation.
Yes, if the kernel sources and the world sources are in sync with each other, 
*and* with the binaries which are installed, you can rebuild the kernel 
without changing or reinstalling the world.

If you simply want to try compiling the kernel several times over using 
different options, that's fine.  If you run cvsup and it changes /usr/src, and 
you do not know that those changes are not significant enough to make a 
difference, *that's* when you need to rebuild world as well.

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Re: Kernel time-keeping adjustments - how to tune?

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:05:22PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> John wrote:
> 
> >OK - on my FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE system, as I have documented (cf:
> >message thread Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3), ntpd
> >won't run, even with an identical configuation to the 5.2.1 system
> >next to it.  Furthermore, when I run adjkerntz -a, it totally whacks
> >the system's ability to keep time - it races forward at quite a
> >high rate.  ntpdate runs, and sets the time correctly.
> >
> >At one point, something managed to get the timekeeping parameters
> >pretty near normal - less than a second of drift per hour (much
> >better than the 40% rate it is now - it gains about 24 seconds PER
> >MINUTE).  Then I ran adjkerntz -a again, just to see if it really
> >was the culprit.  It does seem that it is adjkerntz that is causing
> >(or triggering) the problem, but now I can't get the system back
> >to a decent time-keeping rate.  Whatever it was I stumbled across
> >before, I'm not finding it again now.
> >
> >Now, it doesn't appear that adjkerntz itself has changed in YEARS,
> >so it must be some change in the system call operation, parameters,
> >or data structures that is causing this.
> >
> >So - since I don't seem to be able to stumble across what I did
> >right before to get the timekeeping somewhat near normal, I am
> >wondering if there's a manual way to reach them.
> 
> I read through the cited thread, and don't see any replies;
> nor do I see enough explanation to give you any magic
> beans.  Of course, I'm no one's fairy godmother...

LOL!  No - I don't expect you to be - that'd take ALL the challenge
out of it!

> > the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
> > It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.
> 
> 
> Hmm, that might mean something.  What do you get from:
> 
> sysctl -a | grep timecounter

I don't know what all this means, but here it is...
kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0
kern.timecounter.nbinuptime: 37254938
kern.timecounter.nnanouptime: 0
kern.timecounter.nmicrouptime: 3040
kern.timecounter.nbintime: 19671985
kern.timecounter.nnanotime: 2982761
kern.timecounter.nmicrotime: 16689224
kern.timecounter.ngetbinuptime: 0
kern.timecounter.ngetnanouptime: 318046
kern.timecounter.ngetmicrouptime: 14256461
kern.timecounter.ngetbintime: 0
kern.timecounter.ngetnanotime: 0
kern.timecounter.ngetmicrotime: 3461614
kern.timecounter.nsetclock: 87
kern.timecounter.hardware: TSC
kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(800) i8254(0) dummy(-100)
kern.timecounter.tick: 1

Are these all documented somewhere?  I'm sure they must be, but
I don't know where to look...

> ??
> 
> IANAE, but I wonder if ntpd is going to be able to sync

Well, maybe you will be soon.  An "expert" is anyone who makes
three consecutive correct guesses on the same topic... :)

> up until the local clock runs realistically

Well, I thought of that, too, and during the period between when I
had it running decently and before I decided to try (all too
successfully) to recreate the problem with adjkerntz, I did
try ntpd again, but with the same results.  It simply acted like
it could not see the server.

> Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Kernel time-keeping adjustments - how to tune?

2005-01-17 Thread Kevin Kinsey
John wrote:
OK - on my FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE system, as I have documented (cf:
message thread Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3), ntpd
won't run, even with an identical configuation to the 5.2.1 system
next to it.  Furthermore, when I run adjkerntz -a, it totally whacks
the system's ability to keep time - it races forward at quite a
high rate.  ntpdate runs, and sets the time correctly.
At one point, something managed to get the timekeeping parameters
pretty near normal - less than a second of drift per hour (much
better than the 40% rate it is now - it gains about 24 seconds PER
MINUTE).  Then I ran adjkerntz -a again, just to see if it really
was the culprit.  It does seem that it is adjkerntz that is causing
(or triggering) the problem, but now I can't get the system back
to a decent time-keeping rate.  Whatever it was I stumbled across
before, I'm not finding it again now.
Now, it doesn't appear that adjkerntz itself has changed in YEARS,
so it must be some change in the system call operation, parameters,
or data structures that is causing this.
So - since I don't seem to be able to stumble across what I did
right before to get the timekeeping somewhat near normal, I am
wondering if there's a manual way to reach them.
 

I read through the cited thread, and don't see any replies;
nor do I see enough explanation to give you any magic
beans.  Of course, I'm no one's fairy godmother...

the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.

Hmm, that might mean something.  What do you get from:
sysctl -a | grep timecounter
??
IANAE, but I wonder if ntpd is going to be able to sync
up until the local clock runs realistically
Kevin Kinsey
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Kernel time-keeping adjustments - how to tune?

2005-01-17 Thread John
OK - on my FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE system, as I have documented (cf:
message thread Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3), ntpd
won't run, even with an identical configuation to the 5.2.1 system
next to it.  Furthermore, when I run adjkerntz -a, it totally whacks
the system's ability to keep time - it races forward at quite a
high rate.  ntpdate runs, and sets the time correctly.

At one point, something managed to get the timekeeping parameters
pretty near normal - less than a second of drift per hour (much
better than the 40% rate it is now - it gains about 24 seconds PER
MINUTE).  Then I ran adjkerntz -a again, just to see if it really
was the culprit.  It does seem that it is adjkerntz that is causing
(or triggering) the problem, but now I can't get the system back
to a decent time-keeping rate.  Whatever it was I stumbled across
before, I'm not finding it again now.

Now, it doesn't appear that adjkerntz itself has changed in YEARS,
so it must be some change in the system call operation, parameters,
or data structures that is causing this.

So - since I don't seem to be able to stumble across what I did
right before to get the timekeeping somewhat near normal, I am
wondering if there's a manual way to reach them.
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Re: IPF firewalling

2005-01-17 Thread Alvaro J. Gurdián
correction,
I meant
pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 53 keep state 
frags
pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state 
frags

I did it in kind of a hurry.
On Jan 17, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Alvaro J. Gurdián wrote:
If you compiled you kernel, and added options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK, 
then you need to explicitly allow each service to leave the interface, 
as well as come in thru the interface.  For example add:
pass in quick proto tcp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep keep 
state frags
pass in quick proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep frags

this allows the the computer to attempt to contact the DNS server 
upstream from it.

Hope this helps,
Alvaro Gurdián Jr.
On Jan 16, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Kövesdán Gábor wrote:
Hi,
I have some trouble with the ipf configuration. I made the following
ruleset:
pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 keep state
pass in quick proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep 
frags
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 42 keep 
state keep
frags
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep 
state
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 keep state
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 keep state
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 keep state
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 keep state

block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any
block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp 
from any
to any
block in quick on rl0 all

pass in quick on lo0 all
pass out quick on lo0 all

Everything seems okay, but the named. Neiher the ISP's nameserver 
(set by
the dhcp) nor the local nameserver works. BIND 9 wrote this to
/var/log/messages:

Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: starting BIND 9.3.0 -u named -t
/usr/local/named -c /etc/named.conf
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: 
address
in use
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 
failed;
interface ignored
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: 
address
in use
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 
failed;
interface ignored
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: not listening on any interfaces
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: /etc/named.conf:14: couldn't add 
command
channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in
 use
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket:
permission denied
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 
failed;
interface ignored
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket:
permission denied
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 
failed;
interface ignored

The rndc doesn't matter, I'm not going to use it, but the neither 
named can
listen on the network and the loopback interface. Could You suggest 
me any
solution for this trouble? Btw, this machine is going to be a web, 
dns,
mail, etc. server and is being tested on an ordinary cable connection,
that's why I'm using dhcp.

Best regards,
Gábor Kövesdán
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Re: how to install a different sub-release from the port

2005-01-17 Thread Marty Landman
At 03:43 PM 1/15/2005, Frank Staals wrote:
You can install a newer release of apache by upgrading your portstree and 
than compiling it again ( use cvsup for the upgrading part: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html )
I'm going to learn to use cvsup.
if you want to compile the exact version without the ports ( the linux way 
) than you have to download the sourcecode from www.apache.org extract it, 
run a ./configure && make && make install to install
This didn't work for me for some reason. I'm not going to pursue it right 
now, it might bite me along the way though so we'll see.

btw. why don't you use apache-2 ?
I use 2 for my windows boxes but 1.3 is, afaik the most commonly used 
version on nix boxes.

Thanks Frank.
Marty
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Re: Slow directory access with lots of files

2005-01-17 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:43 -0800
Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

> Do you have UFS_DIRHASH in your kernel?  If you don't, or if you added
> it after the disk was already populated, you'll see the benefits if
> you dump, wipe and restore the disk.

Could you elaborate on that? My impression has always been that dirhash
does all its magic in memory, without persistant data stored on disk.
 
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Re: IPF firewalling

2005-01-17 Thread Alvaro J. Gurdián
If you compiled you kernel, and added options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK, 
then you need to explicitly allow each service to leave the interface, 
as well as come in thru the interface.  For example add:
pass in quick proto tcp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep keep 
state frags
pass in quick proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep frags

this allows the the computer to attempt to contact the DNS server 
upstream from it.

Hope this helps,
Alvaro Gurdián Jr.
On Jan 16, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Kövesdán Gábor wrote:
Hi,
I have some trouble with the ipf configuration. I made the following
ruleset:
pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 keep state
pass in quick proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep frags
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 42 keep 
state keep
frags
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep 
state
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 keep state
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 keep state
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 keep state
pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 keep state

block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any
block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from 
any
to any
block in quick on rl0 all

pass in quick on lo0 all
pass out quick on lo0 all

Everything seems okay, but the named. Neiher the ISP's nameserver (set 
by
the dhcp) nor the local nameserver works. BIND 9 wrote this to
/var/log/messages:

Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: starting BIND 9.3.0 -u named -t
/usr/local/named -c /etc/named.conf
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: 
address
in use
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed;
interface ignored
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: 
address
in use
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed;
interface ignored
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: not listening on any interfaces
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: /etc/named.conf:14: couldn't add 
command
channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in
 use
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket:
permission denied
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed;
interface ignored
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket:
permission denied
Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed;
interface ignored

The rndc doesn't matter, I'm not going to use it, but the neither 
named can
listen on the network and the loopback interface. Could You suggest me 
any
solution for this trouble? Btw, this machine is going to be a web, dns,
mail, etc. server and is being tested on an ordinary cable connection,
that's why I'm using dhcp.

Best regards,
Gábor Kövesdán
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Re: 5.3 Building Kernel/World

2005-01-17 Thread Doug Poland
> 
> On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:07, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> >>>cd /usr/src
> >>>make cleandir
> >>>make cleandir
> >>>make buildworld
> >>>
> >>>Kris
> >>

Interesting, what does "make cleandir" do?  Is it different than running 

# cd /usr/obj
# chflags -R noschg *
# rm -rf *

as documented in the handbook?


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Re: 5.3 Building Kernel/World

2005-01-17 Thread Doug Hardie
On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:07, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 11:32:31PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote:
The only way I can think for this to happen is if your source tree
was
inconsistent (i.e. not completely updated), or you updated your
sources after you did the installworld, and the kernel depends on 
the
newer version of config than the one you have built (in this case 
the
'safe' buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel method you used to 
begin
with should still work).

Kris
Well, I tried makeworld again.  Dies in Step 3.  Reloaded all source
from the distribution
CD.  makeworld dies in exactly the same place:
Really, this all points to something else having changed on your
system in the meantime.  Try
cd /usr/src
make cleandir
make cleandir
make buildworld
Kris
Wish I had seen that earlier.  I just tried a cvs from RELENG_5_3.  I
thought that would only have
security fixes.  Its downloading a ton of stuff.  Obviously I can't
stop it.  Seems like just about all the
userland source files are being changed.  Lots of deletes too.  I'll
give the above a try when this
finishes.  Why so many files from cvs?
The number of changes between RELENG_5_3_0_RELEASE and RELENG_5_3 is
very small.  If you're seeing lots of changes, it means that you
didn't actually have a 5.3-RELEASE source tree installed before now,
which explains the problems you were seeing in compiling it.
Kris
Thats interesting.  I was using the 5.3 release CD.  The checksums 
match those listed.  It was installed onto a re-formatted drive as I 
wanted the UFS-2.  The source was installed as part of the original 
installation.  Anyway, either the cvsup or the cleandirs worked.  I was 
able to buildworld and a new kernel.  Installation of both appears to 
have gone correctly.  uname gives the new kernel and strings of 
/boot/kernel/kernel also shows the new name.  uname before said 
5.3-RELEASE.  It would appear that when I build the production systems 
I will immediately after instalation cvsup to RELENG_5_3 and then run 
make cleandir before anything else.  Fortunately right now I am playing 
with test systems.

It it at all possible to not have to buildworld when building a new 
kernel?  For example, I was trying to add option atapicam.  It would 
seem that buildworld would not be necessary in that situation.

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Re: bimap instead of public ip and servers

2005-01-17 Thread freebsd
>I don't know anything about qmail particularly, but if you're running
>your own DNS, you should be able to report anything you want to the
>DNS queries of your own mail daemon...
>
You are probably right. I can use split horizon DNS and return to requests
from localhost different IP than to requests from outside, but i'm not
sure, this will solve all my problems ;-). 
DNS server is also sitting in LAN, on different IP, than he is
claiming is his DNS responses. 

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Booting Process: Something real funny happening

2005-01-17 Thread villain

Hello.

I've been trying to install FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE (miniinst.iso) on this
HP Compaq DC7100 for a few months now. But the thing is, FreeBSD just won't
boot! I've been searching help for this high and low, in HP forums as well
as other BSD forums, with little luck.

I'm installing this on a 150GB S-ATA harddrive, and the installation goes
just fine. I've tried with the FreeBSD bootloader (BootMgr) as well as with
the standard MBR, but the result is the same: either I press F1 to boot to
FreeBSD or my machine goes through this step automatically.

And what happens next? Nothing. The computer reboots, and does the same,
over and over again. That's about it. And I've tried many things:

1) Playing with the BIOS setup, disabling ACPI and DMA settings, as well
   as looking for places to 'add a UNIX OS' but there are none.

2) Tried booting to my harddrive from the installation CD-ROM, by going to
   option 6: Escape to loader prompt. I did a lsdev and was returned:

cd devices:
cd0:Device 0x0

disk devices:
disk0:  BIOS drive A:
disk1:  BIOS drive C:
disk1s1: Unknown fs: 0x7

disk2:  BIOS drive D:
disk2s1a: FFS
disk2s1b: swap
disk2s1d: FFS
disk2s1e: FFS
disk2s1f: FFS

   Booting like this "boot disk2s1a:/boot/kernel" is the only thing this
   loader prompt boots to, but that boots me to the installation CD-ROM :(

I actually have two harddrives. One is ad4 (believed in this case to be
the C: and the other is ad6 (the one I have Windows installed on), both are
S-ATA. Since I have a clean MBR I'm taken directly to Windows every time.

People have asked me to be more verbose on this issue, but this is as deep
as I can possibly take you!

All the best,
Johann

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Re: Creating a custom package

2005-01-17 Thread Erik Norgaard
Chad Morland wrote:
I have recently setup a FreeBSD jumpstart server to install using PXE.
I would like to add some additional third-party applications as part
of the install. The last page of the FreeBSD jumpstart guide describes
how to make a custom package but it looks like it has to be built from
the ports tree. The applications that I am trying to install are
heavily customized and built from source.
Would it be best to create a package of the compiled sources? Can a
package be built if it is not a port? Do I need to create a custom
port first AND THEN create a package?
or..
Should I create a small package with pre and post install scripts that
install the compiled source files via NFS as well as configure any
system settings?
My aim is to Jumpstart my server and have it running 100% operational
by the end of the install process with no human interaction.
So I assume that you have an install.cfg file? You can execute any 
available command from there by adding lines like

system config_and_install_whatever_command.sh
Either it should be available on a NFS mount or you must first fetch it 
with ftp. You will probably add such command at the end of install.cfg 
when you have a base system installed.

This way, you can install your custom package in any way you want, be it 
compiling from source or installing a package or other.

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Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines

2005-01-17 Thread J.D. Bronson
At 01:08 PM 01/17/2005, you wrote:
> The cvsup I am using is:
>
> *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org
> *default base=/var/db
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> *default compress
>
>
> ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated files?
You did, weeks ago.

Thats what I had thought. But the version numbers are much older than the 
ones in the announcement.

Once I changed the tag from tag=RELENG_5 to tag=RELENG_5_3 then and only
then did I get the correct files.
Prior to that, I tried to delete /var/db/sup and then even /usr/src
and still I was not seeing the updated files.
I have no idea why, but I am glad that I have things working now.


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Re: System Freeze with freebsd-5.3-Release-p5

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:38:09PM +0800, Lin, Tsung Ching wrote:

> I had recompiled the kernel without those kern options.
> if I enable both nis client and the second network interface, the
> console shows "bge1: gigabit link up" and then the system freezes
> without any log.

OK, I asked a colleague, who told me that the IBM xseries 335 is known
to have buggy ACPI support, which causes this problem.  You could try
to disable ACPI, but this also may not work.

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Re: System Freeze with freebsd-5.3-Release-p5

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:38:09PM +0800, Lin, Tsung Ching wrote:

> I had recompiled the kernel without those kern options.
> if I enable both nis client and the second network interface, the
> console shows "bge1: gigabit link up" and then the system freezes
> without any log.

I don't think you posted a dmesg yet.  Can you please do so?

Kris


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RE: bandwidthd

2005-01-17 Thread Michael Clark
> -Original Message-
> From: Freek Nossin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:09 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: bandwidthd
> 
> 
> Hello, 
>  
> I use a program called bandwidthd to monitor my internet traffic. I've
> configured the program in such a way that I can see how much 
> data traffic is
> used by which ip (at what time of day) for several intervals of time
> (current day, week and year). Bandwidthd gives nice results 
> and statistics,
> however it crashes very often. Furthermore it is not updated 
> very often so
> waiting for an update could take forever. Two thinks might help me out
>  
> - someone has experience with bandwidthd and found the same bug with a
> solution for it

I have the same problem with the program.  It still functions but it does
crash very often.  I talked with the devel about 6 months ago about these
problems, but I never got anywhere with it that was stable.  It use to
have problems running on OpenBSD as well.  I believe that got functional.

I am currently useing IPAudit.

>  
> - or I look for another program in the ports tree with 
> similar functionality
> (but which one...)
>  
> Probably it will come down to the second solution.
>  
> Does someone has any suggestions? 
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Freek 
> 
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Re: Slow directory access with lots of files

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:09:52AM -0800, Totem wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm new to this list so please excuse me if this has been asked before 
> or if I don't provide enough info.
> 
> I'm having an issue and I hope someone can help me understand what is 
> happening.  I have a FreeBSD server that is running Samba.  When users 
> access directories that store lots of files (3k or so), access to the 
> files is very slow.  I'm guessing that it is a file system issue.  I'd 
> like to troubleshoot the problem but I don't know where to start.  (In 
> the mean time I have just told the users to create sub-directories and 
> sort their files).  Is there anything that I can do to make things run 
> faster?

Do you have UFS_DIRHASH in your kernel?  If you don't, or if you added
it after the disk was already populated, you'll see the benefits if
you dump, wipe and restore the disk.

Also try updating to 5.3, which is much better than the 5.2.1
developers preview release.

Kris

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Slow directory access with lots of files

2005-01-17 Thread Totem
Hello,
I'm new to this list so please excuse me if this has been asked before 
or if I don't provide enough info.

I'm having an issue and I hope someone can help me understand what is 
happening.  I have a FreeBSD server that is running Samba.  When users 
access directories that store lots of files (3k or so), access to the 
files is very slow.  I'm guessing that it is a file system issue.  I'd 
like to troubleshoot the problem but I don't know where to start.  (In 
the mean time I have just told the users to create sub-directories and 
sort their files).  Is there anything that I can do to make things run 
faster?

Here is my OS version:
# uname -a
FreeBSD server.example.com 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon 
Feb 23 20:45:55 GMT 2004 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

Here is some of the software used by the users to access files 
(installed via ports):
samba-3.0.4,1
nss_ldap-1.204_5
openldap-server-2.1.30
(plenty of others)

I'm using POSIX ACL's on the files/directories that are slow.  User 
account information is stored in LDAP.  The server is a fast enough, 
uses RAID 5 w/ SCSI drives, and there is plenty of RAM.  Utilization is 
fairly low so I don't think it is a HW problem.

I'm going to update the OS and ports on this server soon.  Perhaps that 
will help, but I'm not too hopeful.

Any thoughts? 

Thanks,
Totem
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Re: where did net-snmp go?

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:31:46PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote:
> Hiya
> 
> Way back when I installed FreeBSD 5.0-R I installed net-snmp from the 
> ports tree without issues.
> 
> Now I have a live server running 5.2.1-R and I need SNMP to monitor 
> it with and it is not in the ports tree in the sense that there are 
> some directories called net-snmp* but they all contain only one file, 
> README.html.   
> 
> How do I install it now?
> (Yes I did update the ports tree)

See /usr/ports/MOVED

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 06:18:46AM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> Topic:  FreeBSD/i386 may panic under heavy load on SMP machines
> 
> Category:   core
> Module: smp
> Announced:  2005-01-16
> Credits:Stephan Uphoff, Xin LI
> Affects:FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE
> Corrected:  2005-01-16 08:29:14 UTC
> 
> ..I just got this today and was wondering...since I follow 5.3-STABLE
> how come my files are not up-to-date with at least respect to this bug?
> 
> I checked the files required and mine are quite older...even after a cvsup.
> 
> The cvsup I am using is:
> 
> *default host=cvsup8.us.FreeBSD.org
> *default base=/var/db
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> *default compress
> 
> 
> ..doesnt this track STABLE and if so, why didnt I get these updated files?

You did, weeks ago.

Kris

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Re: 5.3 Building Kernel/World

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 11:32:31PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote:

> >>>The only way I can think for this to happen is if your source tree 
> >>>was
> >>>inconsistent (i.e. not completely updated), or you updated your
> >>>sources after you did the installworld, and the kernel depends on the
> >>>newer version of config than the one you have built (in this case the
> >>>'safe' buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel method you used to begin
> >>>with should still work).
> >>>
> >>>Kris
> >>
> >>Well, I tried makeworld again.  Dies in Step 3.  Reloaded all source
> >>from the distribution
> >>CD.  makeworld dies in exactly the same place:
> >
> >Really, this all points to something else having changed on your
> >system in the meantime.  Try
> >
> >cd /usr/src
> >make cleandir
> >make cleandir
> >make buildworld
> >
> >Kris
> 
> Wish I had seen that earlier.  I just tried a cvs from RELENG_5_3.  I 
> thought that would only have
> security fixes.  Its downloading a ton of stuff.  Obviously I can't 
> stop it.  Seems like just about all the
> userland source files are being changed.  Lots of deletes too.  I'll 
> give the above a try when this
> finishes.  Why so many files from cvs?

The number of changes between RELENG_5_3_0_RELEASE and RELENG_5_3 is
very small.  If you're seeing lots of changes, it means that you
didn't actually have a 5.3-RELEASE source tree installed before now,
which explains the problems you were seeing in compiling it.

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Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?

2005-01-17 Thread Jim Durham
On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jim Durham wrote:
> > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running
> > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about
> > 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more.
>
> <...>
>
> > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT
> > on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on
> > freebsd.org.
>
> I'm not really understanding the distinction that you're looking for.
> For FreeBSD-specific technical discussions, this is the place.
> Applications of course have their own lists, which are obviously more
> appropriate for application-specific questions.

I guess I would have to say that the niche I am talking about is supporting 
applications of a corporate/business nature on FreeBSD. 

>
> For broader discussions, perhaps regarding best practices in system
> administration, commercial backup recommendations, etc, I find SAGE (the
> System Administrators Guild) to be an extremely valuable resource. The
> community seems roughly split between the educational and corporate
> sectors, with a very high level of signal. The topics covered on the
> SAGE mailing list are of high relevance to the profession and practices
> of system administrators, especially for someone with a network such as
> yours.
>
> http://www.sage.org
>

Good suggestion. I will check that out.

Thanks!

-Jim
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Re: Configuring X [Fixed]

2005-01-17 Thread Mick Walker
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 13:07 +, Walker, Michael wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am having a real problem setting up X under FreeBSD 5.3 on a Acer
> Travelmate 280 laptop.
> The laptop uses the Intel onboard i810 video controller, I know Xorg has
> issues with this controller from past experience, so I added the necessary
> line to my /etc/make.conf and proceeded to build XFree86-4. (My ports tree
> is updated as of yesterday afternoon)
> 
> However I can't seem to find a useable mode, when I try to configure X using
> "xf86cfg -textmode" I select the appropriate values, and run the test it
> specifies, the test works great, I get a plain screen with nothing on it,
> and the mouse (touchpad in this case) is working perfectly, but the
> resolution is low, it looks less than 800x600 to be honest.
> If I try to "startx" at any depth setting the screen just goes black and
> locks up, I cant return to the console, and ctrl+alt+del does not restart X.
> I have to turn the machine off and back on manually, which results in the
> boot up sequence complaining about things not being correctly unmounted.
> 
> I have used XFree86 on this laptop before, however that was using FreeBSD
> 5.2.1 and it worked fine. And it also works fine on my desktop machine (that
> to has a Intel i810 controller)
> Does anyone have any ideas where in my setup I am going wrong, or have a
> working XF86Config file for their Intel video controller.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mick Walker 
> NAAFI Finance International 

Just to update people, I managed to solve my issues by going into my
system BIOS and changing my video memory from 1mb to 8mb.
Thanks to all who replied.


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Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:22:48PM -0600, John wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:23:28PM +0900, Rob wrote:
> > Ian Moore wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Ever since I upgraded from 5.2.1-RELEASE to 5.3-RELEASE, I've been 
> > > getting the 
> > > following error on boot:
> > > ntpd[380]: bind() fd 7, family 28, port 123, addr fe80:1
> > > ::204:61ff:fe46:be89, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Can't assign 
> > > requested address
> > > 
> > > ntpd seems to be working from what I can see in it's log file, but I 
> > > can't do 
> > > anything with ntpq to check it. 
> > > Wether I run it as my normal user or as root, running ntpq -p always 
> > > gives:
> > > ntpq: write to localhost.foo.com failed: Permission denied
> > > 
> > 
> > I had once a problem with ntpd, when also running named. Some hostname
> > resolution failed, because the servers were started in the wrong order.
> > Are you also running named?
> > 
> > > Here is my ntpd entries in rc.conf:
> > > ntpd_enable="YES"   # Run ntpd Network Time Protocol (or NO).
> > > ntpd_program="/usr/sbin/ntpd"   # path to ntpd, if you want a different 
> > > one.
> > > ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid"
> > 
> > I use:
> >   ntpd_enable="YES"
> >   ntpd_flags="-g"
> > 
> > > and the contents of ntp.conf:
> > > server  210.48.130.204
> > > server  augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au
> > > driftfile   /var/db/ntpd.drift
> > > logfile /var/log/ntpd
> > 
> > And here I use:
> >   driftfile /var/db/ntpd.drift
> >   pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid
> >   server nr1.time.server
> >   server nr2.time.server
> >   server nr3.time.server
> 
> OK - this is interesting!
> 
> I have identical ntp.conf files on my 5.2.1 system and my 5.3-STABLE
> system.  Guess what?  The 5.2.1 system works, and the 5.3-STABLE system
> doesn't.  Not only that, but the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
> It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.
> 
> Here's the ntp.conf file:
> # stratum 3 time server
> server 192.168.1.1
> 
> driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
> 
> In both cases, name resolution is working.  On the 5.2.1 system, ntpdc
> shows:
> ntpdc> peers
>  remote   local  st poll reach  delay   offsetdisp
> ===
> *dexter.starfire 192.168.1.52 3   64  377 0.00073  0.060184 0.00093
> ntpdc>
> 
> On the 5.3-STABLE system, it ntpdc shows:
> ntpdc> peers
>  remote   local  st poll reach  delay   offsetdisp
> ===
> =dexter.starfire 192.168.1.5316   640 0.0  0.00 0.0
> ntpdc>
> 
> This shows that DNS is working fine, as the remote name is being
> correctly resolved.  (I know I'm showing some of my IP numbers, but
> it's all NAT).
> 
> I'm afraid something is broke!
> 
> Oh, and ntpdate works on the 5.3 system just fine (when ntpd isn't
> running, of course).
> 
> The system that is running 5.3-STABLE was a good time keeper before
> this update (4.9-STABLE).

OK.  An update.

I ran
"ntpdate 192.168.1.1 ; ntpdate 192.168.1.1 ; ntpdate 192.168.1.1" and
suddenly, I'm keeping time MUCH better!

My current theory is that whatever is going wrong with adjkerntz,
it messed up the kernel time keeping adjustment, and when I ran ntpdate
close enough together that it was able to use adjtime rather than
stepping the time, that helped things out greatly.

ntpd still doesn't work, but my system is keeping time much better!
MUCH better!
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Creating a custom package

2005-01-17 Thread Chad Morland
I have recently setup a FreeBSD jumpstart server to install using PXE.
I would like to add some additional third-party applications as part
of the install. The last page of the FreeBSD jumpstart guide describes
how to make a custom package but it looks like it has to be built from
the ports tree. The applications that I am trying to install are
heavily customized and built from source.

Would it be best to create a package of the compiled sources? Can a
package be built if it is not a port? Do I need to create a custom
port first AND THEN create a package?

or..

Should I create a small package with pre and post install scripts that
install the compiled source files via NFS as well as configure any
system settings?

My aim is to Jumpstart my server and have it running 100% operational
by the end of the install process with no human interaction.

Thanks!

-CM
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Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?

2005-01-17 Thread Jim Durham
On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:05 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

>
> Have you seen my book and website?
>
> http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
>
> It is out of print now but still available on Amazon.
>

I have the book and I contributed some stuff to you a few years ago 8-) .

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Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?

2005-01-17 Thread Jim Durham
On Saturday 15 January 2005 01:12 pm, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Jim Durham wrote:
> > I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running
> > Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about
> > 8 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more.
>
> OK.
>
> > Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the
> > signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented
> > information regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented
> > for an office/LAN environment.
> >
> > I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT
> > on FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on
> > freebsd.org.
>
> Your question parses, but it is not clear what specific thing you have in
> mind that would seperate an IT-oriented list from a non-IT oriented list. 
> Can you either give an example question or two, or can you say why
> freebsd-questions is *not* IT-oriented?

Sorry for the slow reply...I was out of touch for a day..

I guess I'm thinking that there are just a lot of things that you get into in 
a corporate environment . "For instances" are hard to think of off the top of 
my head, but, how about implementing Citrix NFuse on Tomcat on FreeBSD? They 
always assume Linux or Solaris or (sorry..SCO..8-) ) and while you can make 
it work on FreeBSD, you spend a lot of time fixing stuff that probably 
someone else has fixed before or conversly, you should be sharing thi info so 
others don't have to wade through the 'discovery' process.
>
> Or does your question mean you looking for a list whose members are mostly
> sysadmins and network managers, rather than end-users? 

Exactly. 

> FreeBSD doesn't 
> really make much distinction between an end-user and a sysadmin [1], but
> you might find freebsd-stable or freebsd-isp to come closer to what you are
> looking for.

What I'm saying is a list like freebsd-isp, but focused on corporate IT with 
FreeBSD.  -isp is helpful, and I *am* subscribed, but doesn't include a lot 
of IT types.

(snip)

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Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:23:28PM +0900, Rob wrote:
> Ian Moore wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Ever since I upgraded from 5.2.1-RELEASE to 5.3-RELEASE, I've been getting 
> > the 
> > following error on boot:
> > ntpd[380]: bind() fd 7, family 28, port 123, addr fe80:1
> > ::204:61ff:fe46:be89, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Can't assign 
> > requested address
> > 
> > ntpd seems to be working from what I can see in it's log file, but I can't 
> > do 
> > anything with ntpq to check it. 
> > Wether I run it as my normal user or as root, running ntpq -p always gives:
> > ntpq: write to localhost.foo.com failed: Permission denied
> > 
> 
> I had once a problem with ntpd, when also running named. Some hostname
> resolution failed, because the servers were started in the wrong order.
> Are you also running named?
> 
> > Here is my ntpd entries in rc.conf:
> > ntpd_enable="YES"   # Run ntpd Network Time Protocol (or NO).
> > ntpd_program="/usr/sbin/ntpd"   # path to ntpd, if you want a different one.
> > ntpd_flags="-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid"
> 
> I use:
>   ntpd_enable="YES"
>   ntpd_flags="-g"
> 
> > and the contents of ntp.conf:
> > server  210.48.130.204
> > server  augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au
> > driftfile   /var/db/ntpd.drift
> > logfile /var/log/ntpd
> 
> And here I use:
>   driftfile /var/db/ntpd.drift
>   pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid
>   server nr1.time.server
>   server nr2.time.server
>   server nr3.time.server

OK - this is interesting!

I have identical ntp.conf files on my 5.2.1 system and my 5.3-STABLE
system.  Guess what?  The 5.2.1 system works, and the 5.3-STABLE system
doesn't.  Not only that, but the clock on my 5.3-STABLE system is RACING.
It is going at almost twice as fast as real time.

Here's the ntp.conf file:
# stratum 3 time server
server 192.168.1.1

driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift

In both cases, name resolution is working.  On the 5.2.1 system, ntpdc
shows:
ntpdc> peers
 remote   local  st poll reach  delay   offsetdisp
===
*dexter.starfire 192.168.1.52 3   64  377 0.00073  0.060184 0.00093
ntpdc>

On the 5.3-STABLE system, it ntpdc shows:
ntpdc> peers
 remote   local  st poll reach  delay   offsetdisp
===
=dexter.starfire 192.168.1.5316   640 0.0  0.00 0.0
ntpdc>

This shows that DNS is working fine, as the remote name is being
correctly resolved.  (I know I'm showing some of my IP numbers, but
it's all NAT).

I'm afraid something is broke!

Oh, and ntpdate works on the 5.3 system just fine (when ntpd isn't
running, of course).

The system that is running 5.3-STABLE was a good time keeper before
this update (4.9-STABLE).
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Re: "make package" question

2005-01-17 Thread Chuck Swiger
Brian McCann wrote:
Hi all...easy question for someone.  I'm starting to use one machine
to make my ports and system on and NFS mount and install from that one
central machine.  I'm trying to use "make package" and "make
package-recursive" for ports...but is there a way to have it NOT try
to install the port, just make the package file?
The simple answer is "no".  A more complex answer is "yes, create a jail, 
chroot there, and build your ports inside of that".

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Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$...

2005-01-17 Thread Gary Schrock
At 08:14 PM 1/15/2005, Eric F Crist wrote:
On Jan 15, 2005, at 7:06 PM, albi wrote:
Eric F Crist wrote:
do you get my point ? i'm trying to say that perhaps squirrelmail still 
demands a maildir-based imap-server (i don't know whether that's true, 
google could not give me an answer to that within a reasonable time)
Squirrel mail definitely does not require maildir.  I know this because I'm 
running it with mbox mailboxes.

anyway, i hope you get it working soonish!
good luck!
ciao,
albi
Actually, I know the error is correct.  Actually, I know what I need to do 
to fix this problem, it's just not working for me...  I've posted a couple 
links that direct me in various ways regarding this error, but my server 
won't accept plain-text logins.  Can't figure out how to get it to do so.
My only suggestion for how to get things to work is to completely disable 
the SSL stuff from uw-imap.  That's about the only way I was able to get 
things to work properly (although I didn't try to hard to get it to work 
with ssl, since I only use imap for web based mail).  To do this, you need 
to recompile the cclient and imap-uw ports with the option -DWITHOUT_SSL (I 
think that's the proper option), and then recompile the php4-imap port so 
it recognizes that your imap doesn't use ssl.

And of course make sure you run the configure script for squirrelmail.
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"make package" question

2005-01-17 Thread Brian McCann
Hi all...easy question for someone.  I'm starting to use one machine
to make my ports and system on and NFS mount and install from that one
central machine.  I'm trying to use "make package" and "make
package-recursive" for ports...but is there a way to have it NOT try
to install the port, just make the package file?

Thanks,
--Brian
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Re: KDE issues after upgrade

2005-01-17 Thread gustaaf wijnands
Adam Smith wrote:
Recent activities:
   o CVSup of Ports
   o portupgrade -Oar
Hmm perhaps I shouldn't have specified the O, because my KDE is broken.
Quite broken!  I've reinstalled it by adding in ALL of the options, just to
make sure nothing got missed, and besides perhaps deinstalling all of the
KDE packages and starting again.
What happens is, upon loading of KDE from KDM, just after "Initializing
Peripherals", it backs out with no error and Xorg reloads.
I see no errors in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log or any other
logs I cared to look at.
I moved my ~/.kderc and ~/.kde directories elsewhere to clean out my
profile but to no avail; KDE still fails in the same spot.  Other
windowmanagers (WindowMaker) work fine.
Anyone got any suggestions as to what I might try to resolve this problem?

did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING , entry 20041229 ?
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Re: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) [was Re: ...

2005-01-17 Thread Freebsd0101
In a message dated 1/16/05 7:43:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>stheg
>
>P.S. (to the list in general) Why do all of the questions about FBSD
>performance, especially 4.x vs 5.x, come from people posting from
>Windows boxes? Theories?
Because performance is a server issue and what you use for a server
has little to do with what you use on your desktop. Most people that
don't have a religious repulsion with Microsoft use Windows on the
desktop.
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Re: Configuring X

2005-01-17 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Walker, Michael wrote:
Hi All,
I am having a real problem setting up X under FreeBSD 5.3 on a Acer
Travelmate 280 laptop.
The laptop uses the Intel onboard i810 video controller, I know Xorg has
issues with this controller from past experience, so I added the necessary
line to my /etc/make.conf and proceeded to build XFree86-4. (My ports tree
is updated as of yesterday afternoon)
However I can't seem to find a useable mode, when I try to configure X using
"xf86cfg -textmode" I select the appropriate values, and run the test it
specifies, the test works great, I get a plain screen with nothing on it,
and the mouse (touchpad in this case) is working perfectly, but the
resolution is low, it looks less than 800x600 to be honest.
If I try to "startx" at any depth setting the screen just goes black and
locks up, I cant return to the console, and ctrl+alt+del does not restart X.
I have to turn the machine off and back on manually, which results in the
boot up sequence complaining about things not being correctly unmounted.
 

Scary, to be sure, but probably not life threatening just yet.  Take a
backup ;-)
Surely you meant "CTL-ATL-Bksp".   Another strategem
I have used --- CTL-F2 to another vtty, login as root, re-edit
the config file, and -HUP the X server.  Or, you could shutdown
from there.  At any rate you can probably find a way around a
hard reboot if you try (include #disclaimer.h)
{I guess you could at least consider that encouragement?}
I have used XFree86 on this laptop before, however that was using FreeBSD
5.2.1 and it worked fine. And it also works fine on my desktop machine (that
to has a Intel i810 controller)
Does anyone have any ideas where in my setup I am going wrong, or have a
working XF86Config file for their Intel video controller.
Regards
Mick Walker 
NAAFI Finance International 
 

Nothing much.  The handbook does state that:
   If you are using *XFree86 4.1.0* (or later) and messages about
   unresolved symbols like fbPictureInit appear, try adding the
   following line after Driver "i810" in the X11 configuration file:
Option "NoDDC"
Of course, I have no idea if you are getting such messages, and
if the box is locking up, you probably don't either.  Nor do I know
if that particular section has been changed lately, or if it needs
to be.  I seem to remember getting X up on an 810 once, but I
don't have that box anymore, and it wasn't a laptop anyhow.
Anything in the log files?
You might attached your configuration file and see if anyone
can spot something you might have missed.
Good luck,
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: KDE issues after upgrade

2005-01-17 Thread RW
On Monday 17 January 2005 16:47, Chris wrote:
> Adam Smith wrote:

> >What happens is, upon loading of KDE from KDM, just after "Initializing
> >Peripherals", it backs out with no error and Xorg reloads.

> >Anyone got any suggestions as to what I might try to resolve this problem?
>
> When ever you pull off a cvsup of the ports tree, you MUST, again - MUST
> read /usr/ports/UPDATING
> to view additional instructions, issues, etc. That should be the 2nd
> thing you do. 1st being the actual cvsup.
>
> Read that file and see if anything pops out at you. 

See the 20041229 entry in particular.
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can't build a gettext package

2005-01-17 Thread daniel quinn
i've managed to build packages for everything else on the system, and gettext 
seems to compile and install just fine, but for some reason, building the 
package fails:

  ===>  Building package for gettext-0.14.1
  Creating package /usr/ports/packages/All/gettext-0.14.1.tbz
  Registering depends: libiconv-1.9.2_1.
  Creating bzip'd tar ball in '/usr/ports/packages/All/gettext-0.14.1.tbz'
  tar: include/autosprintf.h: Could not stat: No such file or directory
  tar: lib/libasprintf.a: Could not stat: No such file or directory
  tar: lib/libasprintf.so: Could not stat: No such file or directory
  tar: lib/libasprintf.so.0: Could not stat: No such file or directory
  tar: share/doc/libasprintf/autosprintf.html: Could not stat: No such file or
  directory 
  pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256
  *** Error code 1

now i understand what the error means, what i don't understand is why the 
error exists in the first place.  if these files aren't created with the 
initial make, why is the packager trying to include them?  and how do i fix 
this?

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who's flying this thing?!?!
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Re: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) [was Re: ...

2005-01-17 Thread Freebsd0101
In a message dated 1/16/05 7:43:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

>>Now i am really puzzled because i cannot understand why 4.x behaves 
>>relatively good compared to 5.x on this specific issue. Is there a
>>good explanation or does one have to investigate this further?

>Also, as you saw yourself, using an SMP kernel in FBSD 5.3 doesn't
>cause a performance hit in networking but it does in NBSD 2.0.
>So your choices seem to be use 4.11RC2 (full release due shortly) to
>get the best network response, 5.3 to get as good performance as NBSD
>2.0 but with SMP, or use NBSD 2.0 to get as good perfomance as 5.3 but
>without SMP. Of course, you can wait until NBSD (your prefered OS)
>performs as well as FBSD, but that may be a lnng time.:)

Of course you won't be able to run 4.x on the latest hardware, because 
they've stopped supporting such things. What "puzzles" me is that they call 
5.x the "production version", even though they seem to know its not there yet. 
So
(sadly), you can't run the fastest version on the fastest hardware.
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Re: system time mysteriously changes

2005-01-17 Thread John
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:28:04AM -0700, Danny MacMillan wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:05:53PM -0800, Kevin Smith wrote:
> > I'm having a problem with my system clock.  The time will be fine for
> > a few days, then all of a sudden, I will notice that it has jumped
> > ahead by a number of hours (usually enough to change the day to the
> > next day). I can confirm that the time has changed on the system
> > cloth in the BIOs setup as well.  This has happened once every few
> > days.
> > 
> > I thought it may be a clock battery problem on the the motherboard, but 
> > I am thinking that this is not the case as the minutes are usually OK - 
> > it is just the hours/day that changes.
> > 
> > Another idea that I had was that because I am dual booting windows (on 
> > occasion) and freeBSD, windows may be the culprit, but  I verified that 
> > by rebooting windows, it is not resetting the system clock.
> 
> If you told FreeBSD when installing that your system clock was set to
> UTC that is likely the problem.  Windows assumes the system clock is
> set to local time.  It's moving exactly 8 hours, which appears to be
> your time zone offset from UTC.  Go into /stand/sysinstall and tell it
> your system clock is set to local time.  I'm not sure where that is;
> there might even be command line utilities that will do it more easily
> but it should be easy to find.  You'll probably have to reset the clock
> afterwards but I suspect that will be the end of your problems.
> 
> > Any ideas on what could be wrong ?  I also have ntpd running, which I 
> > used as an attempt to keep the clock set correctly (in effort to find a 
> > solution to the problem), but it does not appear to be able to handle 
> > correcting the time.
> 
> If the offset is too large ntpd won't by default be able to correct it.
> A good idea is to enable ntpdate at boot as well.  ntpdate will sync
> the clock at boot, and ntpd will keep it synced thereafter.  I have
> this in my rc.conf, in addition to my ntpd setup:
> 
> ntpdate_enable="YES"
> ntpdate_flags="-b -v"
> 
> You shouldn't have to specify a server in your case; ntpdate will read
> your existing ntp.conf for that.

I think that adjkerntz is not working correctly.  I am having the
same problem.

As adjkerntz doesn't appear to have been fiddled with in a long,
long time, it must be something else about the current environment.

Anyway - when I use adjkerntz - my time gets set ahead 5 hours.  This
odd, since I am 6 hours from GMT.I think that Kevin is having
the same problem, where his clock is getting bumped by 1 hour
less than his GMT offset.  I have temporarily commented out the
adjkerntz entry in my /etc/crontab, and advised him to do the same.
When I have some time tonight, when I'm not doing my "real job,"
I'll look into this and see if I can figure out what's going on.
It's something strange!
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Re: KDE issues after upgrade

2005-01-17 Thread Chris
Adam Smith wrote:
Recent activities:
  o CVSup of Ports
  o portupgrade -Oar
Hmm perhaps I shouldn't have specified the O, because my KDE is broken.
Quite broken!  I've reinstalled it by adding in ALL of the options, just to
make sure nothing got missed, and besides perhaps deinstalling all of the
KDE packages and starting again.
What happens is, upon loading of KDE from KDM, just after "Initializing
Peripherals", it backs out with no error and Xorg reloads.
I see no errors in /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log or any other
logs I cared to look at.
I moved my ~/.kderc and ~/.kde directories elsewhere to clean out my
profile but to no avail; KDE still fails in the same spot.  Other
windowmanagers (WindowMaker) work fine.
Anyone got any suggestions as to what I might try to resolve this problem?
 

When ever you pull off a cvsup of the ports tree, you MUST, again - MUST 
read /usr/ports/UPDATING
to view additional instructions, issues, etc. That should be the 2nd 
thing you do. 1st being the actual cvsup.

Read that file and see if anything pops out at you. KDE has never really 
been a to-the-point upgrade.
There have always been gotcha's.

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Re: Microkernel version of FreeBSD

2005-01-17 Thread cpghost
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 08:17:47PM -0500, Nicholas Ink wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD,
>   Is there a microkernel version of the FreeBSD software that has 
>   source code available for download?  Is it directly related to the 
> project? 

You may want to have a look at Darwin.

> I am currently working on a microkernel project and would be interested 
> in any such system.

Which microkernel? Perhaps L4Ka::Pistachio (http://l4ka.org/)?
It would be nice to have a {Net,Open,Free}BSD port to Pistachio
someday. At least NetBSD should be relatively easy to port.

>   Thanks,
>   Nicholas Ink

Cheers,
-cpghost.

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