Re: make buildworld

2005-12-27 Thread Björn König

Doug Hardie schrieb:
I am upgrading a server to 6.0 and encountered an error in make  
buildworld.  However, I don't know what the error was as I piped  stdout 
to a file, but not stderr.  It was fairly near the end so I  really hate 
to restart from the beginning again.  The master server  is a fairly 
slow machine.  When  something like this happens, is  there a way to 
restart the make where it died?  Is there an easy way  to build the 
specific module that failed to get the complete errors?   In this case 
the module was /usr/libexec/telnet.  I went to /usr/src/ libexec/telnet 
and did a make.  It completed without any problems.   So, I ended up 
restarting the make from the top again, but would like  to know for 
future situations.  Thanks.


Try make -DNO_CLEAN buildworld next time. This prevents the build 
script from deleting object files in /usr/obj.


Regards
Björn
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Re: 3D Hardware Graphics

2005-12-27 Thread Björn König

Jon schrieb:

Hello all,

I'm wondering how to get 3D Hardware graphics going
under FreeBSD. 
I tried both the LibGL.so that came with the driver

for my graphics card and the default LibGL.so that
came with FreeBSD '/usr/X11R6/lib' but no go, still
slow software mode. I have a DRI radeon enabled driver
and a radeon driver for xorg.conf, AGP was built into
my kernel. What else can I try to get this going?

Thanks
FreeBSD 6.0 STABLE - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro


This is almost not possible because ATI doesn't provide a driver for 
FreeBSD and the driver that comes with X.org supports only models up to 
Radeon 9000 concerning 3D capabilities; you'll find more information 
about supported cards in the radeon manpage of the xorg-server 
package. There is an open source project that aims 3D support for more 
recent cards:


http://r300.sourceforge.net/R300.php

Regards
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Re: kernel options

2005-12-27 Thread Björn König

Imran Imtiaz schrieb:

where can i find all the customization options of ther kernel?


See src/sys/conf/NOTES for platform-independent options and for example 
src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES for i386-specific options.


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RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 6:28 PM
To: Beech Rintoul; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: BSD Question's.




--- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 26 December 2005 07:24 am, Danial
 Thom wrote:
  --- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote:
There is also the problem that some sites
 are
  
   designed to work with
  
Internet Explorer. You can try to visit
 with
  
   firefox but that doesn't
  
always work even with firefox on XP.
  
   NO site should be designed to work with
   IExplorer. I know it's done, but
   it should not! Why do we have W3C? If we
 could
   all just do things by
   the book the internet would be a much
 nicer
   place to visit.
  
   People who design for IExplorer are bad!
 They
   have microsoft in mind and
   _not_ the visitors. I hate it when choice
 gets
   violated! It should be
   called a crime against freedom.
 
  No, you're wrong here. You're letting your
  religious philosophy cloud your business
 sense.
  You develop to service the highest percentage
 of
  your expected viewer base. The truth is that
 the
  vast majority of visitors to most web sites
 are
  going to be using IE. While using unnecessary
  features as a primary component of your site
 that
  ONLY work with IE is foolish, you can't
  compromise your design just so that it will
 work
  with the 3% of religious fanatics that refuse
 to
  install IE on thier machines. Business is
 about
  numbers, and the numbers say that your site
 HAS
  to work with IE, and its nice if it works
 with
  others. I generally test with IE, Firefox and
  Netscape and I don't care much about much
 else.
 
 
  I have a friend in the travel biz who gets an
  unusual amount of traffic from AOL, because
 most
  of his customers are not computer people. His
  site needs to be well tested on AOL, where I
  couldn't really give a rat's behind if my
  commercial site works with AOL or not. You
 have
  to make sure your site works with the
 greatest
  majority of browsers available that will be
  accessing any given site.
 
  Its unfortunate that MS does what they want
  rather than following the standards, but in
  reality the standards should follow MS,
 because
  its really the only way to make everything
 work.
  Much of Microsoft's extra stuff is pretty
  useful and arguably better; its time the unix
  geeks get over it and stop whining about the
 big
  bad bully for the good of the big picture. MS
  isn't going away anytime soon. The truth is
 that
  anything MS does is a de-facto standard,
 whether
  you like it or not.
 
  DT
 
 I guess we should just throw out w3c and assign
 the task to microsoft. While 
 wer'e at it lets get rid of all net standards.
 After all microsoft is so far 
 ahead we'll never catch up.
 
 Beech


Cisco makes their own standards for networking,
and if you want to play in the game you have to
be compatible.

They do - however they clearly delineate between
their standard (for example IGRP) and the public
standard (ie: OSPF) and when they support both,
they endeavor to adhere to the public standard,
in their implementation of it.

There would not be a problem if Microsoft inserted a
switch in IE where the user could select M-HTML
(Microsoft HTML) or W3C-HTML (actual HTML).  The
problem is that Microsoft intermixes the two.

It doesn't really matter what the
accepted standard is; its the one that *most*
people are using. 


If W3C adopted all the Microsoft changes to HTML
it would not help, Microsoft would break them in
future versions.  Even
in the Microsoft way, there is no consistency in
Microsoft's own so-called standards.

A guy I used to work with used to say at least
once a day The great thing about standards is
that there are so many to choose from. 

I think a lot of people would be happy to go with
the Microsoft standard if it wasn't a constantly
changing target.  It defeats the purpose of
a standard to begin with.

Ted
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RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Does it meet the test I already outlined?

Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a remote server,
with both lines connected.  Time it.

Disconnect 1 line, then repeat the test.  If the time to
download and upload when both DSL lines are connected is
half the time it takes when 1 DSL line is connected, then
your load-balancing.

If not, then you are not - although if it makes you feel
like you haven't wasted your money claim your
per session load balancing then I suppose it would be
uncharitable to make you feel bad by pointing out that
this is purely a marketing term with no networking
significance.

Oops.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Winelfred G.
Pasamba
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 8:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Loren M. Lang; Yance Kowara; Ted Mittelstaedt;
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections


ted, danial, and the rest,

i'm learning a lot in this thread.

i have a pfsense (freebsd) router that has two connections to
the same ISP
and one connection to a linux squid (another server).  i use the ported
openbsd packet filter in freebsd for (whatever) load balancing.
 i can paste
the freebsd-/etc/pf.conf and give you a sample of 'pfctl -s
state' which
looks like a firewall state table (i'm not sure though).  i can
also capture
traffic graphs on all three interfaces of the pfsense router.

just want to know what's happening in the (freebsd) pfsense
router.  is it
route balancing, packet round-robin'ing,
connection-round-robining, or what?

one thing is that both these isp lines don't have any CIR. one is up to
128kbps and the other is up to 256 kbps. and i don't know
which is which,
hehe.

here are the graphs and dump:
http://geocities.com/winelfredpasamba/is_this_load_balancing_or_what/

On 12/26/05, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Danial Thom
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 3:47 PM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Loren M. Lang
  Cc: Yance Kowara;
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL
  connections
  
  
  Ted the incompetent, wrong on all counts once
  again:
  
  
  --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Danial Thom
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:56 AM
   To: Loren M. Lang; Ted Mittelstaedt
   Cc: Yance Kowara;
   freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL
   connections
   
   
   All upstream ISPs are
   connected to everyone on the internet, so
  it
   doesn't matter which you send your packets
  to
   (the entire point of a connectionless
   network.
   They both can forward your traffic to
  wherever
   its going.
  
   They aren't going to forward your traffic
   unless
   it's sourced by an IP number they assign.
  To
   do otherwise means they would permit you to
   spoof IP
   numbers.  And while it's possible some very
   small
   ISP's run by idiots that don't know any
  better
   might
   still permit this, their feeds certainly
  will
   not.
  
  Yes they will.
 
  I assure you they will not.
 
  Routers route based on dest
  address only. Are you somehow suggesting that
  an
  ISP can't be dual homed and use only one link
  if
  one goes down, since some of the addresses
  sent
  up the remaining pipe wouldn't have source
  addresses assigned by that upstream provider?
 
  ISP's that are dual-homed have to register
  their
  subnets with both providers.
 
  For example, suppose I'm a small ISP and I go
  get a
  Sprint connection and get assigned a range of
  11 IP subnets, 192.168.1.0 - 192.168.10.0
 
  These are Sprint-owned IP addresses of course.
  As
  I source traffic from 192.168.1.x, Sprint
  recognizes
  it as valid traffic and allows it to pass
  Sprint's
  ingress filter to me.
 
  Now I get a bit bigger and decide I need a
  redundant
  connection.  So I contact ARIN and buy an AS
  number,
  then contact ATT and get a connection to them,
  then
  setup BGP between myself and ATT  Sprint.
 
  When ATT and I are setting up BGP, ATT's techs
  will
  ask me what subnets I'm advertising, I tell
  them
  192.168.1.0 - 192.168.10.0  ATT then checks
  with
  ARIN's whois server to make sure Sprint has
  entered
  a record for that list of subnets that says I'm
  authorized to use them.  If all that checks out
  OK
  then ATT adjusts their ingress filters so I can
  source traffic to them from those subnets.
 
  Now I get even bigger and need more IP's than
  what
  Sprint will provide, so I go to ARIN and buy
  them.
  Then all my feeds have to adjust their ingress
  filters
  to the new subnet.
 
  Now I get even more bigger and I start trying
  to setup
  peering relationships with other networks, so I
  don't have to pay them directly.  Well now
  guess what,
  those networks are now monitoring 

Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote:

 It doesn't really matter what the accepted standard is; its the one
 that *most* people are using. 

Bring this rule to society and it won't take all that much time before
we'll live in a jungle (happely ever after ? ;-)

It's the decease of this era that lost of people find it diffcult to
honor rules except their own.

I know the saying money makes the world turn around
I disagree.

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Wireless woes: upgrade 5.4 to 6.0, wi0, etc...

2005-12-27 Thread Kiffin Gish
Since I upgraded from FreeBSD 5.4 to 6.0, I cannot for the life of me get
the wi0-interface to work at all (real bummer).

During boot I get the following error message:

ieee80211_load_module: load the wlan_wep module by hand for now

If afterwards I try to fiddle around with ifconfig wepmode on ..., I get the
following error message:

ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Operation not permitted

Googling around and searching through the NOTES, UPDATING etc. I have
discovered (low-level technical) bits and pieces but nothing I can really
bit into. Some stuff about wpa, wpa_supplicant.conf ad infinitum, but before
I start doing something major and messing up my system for good, I though I
would drop this questions amongst the experts.

Have there been any changes made to the wi0 which I should be aware of?

Thanks a lot in advance.

-- 
Kiffin Rex Gish
Gouda, The Netherlands

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Re: how to dual boot

2005-12-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 26 Dec Jerry McAllister wrote:
 Just put the FreeBSD install CD back in and install the FreeBSD MBR.
 It will give you a choice as to which to boot.   It works just fine.
 It's only quirk is that, if the MS slice is an NTFS type of filesystem
 it will identify it as ??? in the menu rather than MS-DOS as it
 identifies the FAT type file systems.

That weirdness is over in 6.x
NTFS partitions are under Fx DOS now and I must say I like this much
better then ???

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Re: Wireless woes: upgrade 5.4 to 6.0, wi0, etc...

2005-12-27 Thread Dinesh Nair



On 12/27/05 18:22 Kiffin Gish said the following:

Since I upgraded from FreeBSD 5.4 to 6.0, I cannot for the life of me get
the wi0-interface to work at all (real bummer).

During boot I get the following error message:

ieee80211_load_module: load the wlan_wep module by hand for now

If afterwards I try to fiddle around with ifconfig wepmode on ..., I get the
following error message:

ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Operation not permitted


have you tried kldload wlan_wep ? :)

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Memory upgrade and resizing the /swap partition ...

2005-12-27 Thread Kiffin Gish
I just upgraded my laptop from 512MB to 1024MB memory.

It is said that the /swap partition has to be at least as much as the maximum 
available memory, but my current value is still based on the old 512MB size.

Can I increase the size of the existing swap partition or do I have to create a 
new one? If I have to create a new one, how do I do this and how can I reclaim 
the unused old swap area?

Thanks alot in advance.


Kiffin Gish
Gouda, The Netherlands
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Re: Memory upgrade and resizing the /swap partition ...

2005-12-27 Thread Björn König

Kiffin Gish schrieb:

I just upgraded my laptop from 512MB to 1024MB memory.

It is said that the /swap partition has to be at least as much as the maximum 
available memory, [...]


This is more an ancient rule of thumb. You can even have a working 
system without swap at all. Swap will be only used if you have to less 
memory available and it depends on the main purpose of the computer how 
much swap you need. For example I have a small server at home that acts 
as small web server, mail server, file server and many other things; the 
server has 768 MB RAM and 128 MB swap and ran for the last two years 
without out of memory failures.



Can I increase the size of the existing swap partition or do I have to create a 
new one? [...]


There is another solution: you can use a file that extends your swap 
partition.


# create an empty 256 MB file
dd if=/dev/zero of=/usr/swapfile bs=1024k count=256

# add an appropriate line to rc.conf
echo 'swapfile=/usr/swapfile'  /etc/rc.conf

# add swap
/etc/rc.d/addswap start

'swapinfo' shows information about your current swap partition and files.

Regards
Björn
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sysinstall full install remotely with no serial console, possible?

2005-12-27 Thread Elliot Crosby-McCullough

Hey guys.

	Basically in my situation I have a broken server in colo with no serial 
console.  It works for the most part but write access to / is gone, and 
all attempts at repair are not coming about.


	I'd like to reinstall all but /home (has a seperate slice), however I 
would have to do so via SSH without the aid of a serial console, and 
with no CD in the drive.


	I know sysinstall can run from the OS, and it can install over the 
network, is it possible to run this full installation remotely in this 
way, given that it's starting from an installed and configured OS?


Thanks,
Elliot
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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:27 am, Danial Thom wrote:

 Schwab Streetsmart
 Accounting Software (CA)
 Quicken
 Photoshop
 Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs)

 Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there are
 some half-assed alternatives for some of these,
 but if I have to use something inferior to use
 FreeBSD then thats a point against it.


This is all a question of the applications you need.
My game is full custom integrated circuit design and 
suitable CAD software is available, at a price, on 
most unix style systems including Solaris, HP-UX, 
various Linux distributions and FreeBSD. In this 
field it is the Windows half-assed alternatives
that are distinctly inferior.

 Also, what you missed, was that I mentioned that
 you can be relatively sure that any hardware will
 have drivers for windows, while with FreeBSD
 you're never quite sure. Its also nice when you
 get a new printer or scanner to not have a 3 day
 project to get it to work.


For sure Windows has drivers such as the WNT 
postscript driver that stuffs up scaling calculations 
for certain target resolutions of the 
photolithography machines so that art work 
generated from PCB layout packages is several percent 
out in size, and is therfore of course useless. It 
took much more than 3 days to track down the problem 
and generate a utility to post process the Microsoft 
postscript output to turn it into something usable.
Eventually we discovered the problem was admitted 
somewhere in the Microsoft Knowledge Base and had been 
known for sometime without any upgrade or work around 
offered. Such simple known problems just do not persist
in FreeBSD. 

 The only point I made was that FreeBSD is focused
 on server functions and that is justified by the
 simple fact that it will never be as useful as
 windows; if for no other reason than there simply
 aren't the resources for FreeBSD to be a good
 server and also a competitive desktop.


The Windows resources are really applied over a 
rather narrow range of popular applications. Go 
outside that range and and other systems are more 
than competitive.

Malcolm Kay

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Re: Memory upgrade and resizing the /swap partition ...

2005-12-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
=?windows-1252?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kiffin Gish schrieb:
  I just upgraded my laptop from 512MB to 1024MB memory.
  It is said that the /swap partition has to be at least as much as
  the maximum available memory, [...]
 
 This is more an ancient rule of thumb. You can even have a working
 system without swap at all. Swap will be only used if you have to less
 memory available and it depends on the main purpose of the computer
 how much swap you need.

There is one caveat: you can't get a kernel dump unless you have
enough non-filesystem disk space (normally your swap partition) to
dump it on.  This isn't a major issue, though, and you can
force the kernel to recognize less memory if you really need to.
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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:03 am, Danial Thom wrote:
 --- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  On 2005-12-24 14:01, Danial Thom
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me, FreeBSD is about twice as fast/easy
 
  to install/configure,
 
and infinitely cheaper.
  
   Considering that WinXP usually comes on the
 
  computer, I don't see how
 
   installing and configuring FreeBSD can be
 
  easier than having to do
 
   nothing at all?
 
  Windows XP comes preinstalled, yes.  Not
  preconfigured too.  It so
  happens that configuring a Windows XP system to
  match one's preferences
  has the potential to:
 
  a) Screw the machine up so completely and
  utterly that a reinstall
 is required.
  b) Take a lot of time.  A huge lot of time,
  because of all the
 different 'driver' installation
  processes.

I have installed numerous sytems including various versions
of MS-DOS and Windows, OS/2, OS/9, Linux distributions and 
large range of FreeBSD releases. There have been some 
difficulties from time to time but with one exception these
all yielded to study+reason. The one exception was an XP
diagnostic build on which I eventually admitted defeat.
 

 Ate you claiming that someone not familiar with
 how to configure FreeBSD can't screw it up beyond
 usefulness? I can point you at about 10% of my
 customers who've spent weeks just trying to
 compile a kernel and get basic networking
 working, much less a desktop with X.


I would claim that XP is quite capable of screwing up 
its system without any real help from the user.
I installed a HP all-in-one scanner-plotter on my 
a NEC laptop running XP professional and this worked 
fairly well until HP suggested I should update the 
software. Thereafter some minor annoyances/bugs appeared.

I decided that I should go back to the original so I 
activated the system unistall utility on the HP software.
After partly removing the software the utility reported 
errors; that it could not complete the uninstall.

Nor would the original installation rerun because it thought
it was already there. 

So now I don't have access to the all-in-one. Removing
all the directories on the machine identified as from HP
and registry entries in identified as HP allowed some 
reintallation to proceed but it is incomplete and doesn't
run.

I have never experienced this sort of lockout on a FreeBSD 
system.

It is looking as though I will need to do a completely new
XP installation -- which I am not looking forward to.

It has been said before Windows is OK until something goes 
wrong; but then it is mostly unfixable.

Malcolm Kay
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Re: how to dual boot

2005-12-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 On 26 Dec Jerry McAllister wrote:
  Just put the FreeBSD install CD back in and install the FreeBSD MBR.
  It will give you a choice as to which to boot.   It works just fine.
  It's only quirk is that, if the MS slice is an NTFS type of filesystem
  it will identify it as ??? in the menu rather than MS-DOS as it
  identifies the FAT type file systems.
 
 That weirdness is over in 6.x
 NTFS partitions are under Fx DOS now and I must say I like this much
 better then ???

Ah, good.   
I haven't had time to install the 6.0 that I downloaded yet.

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Re: projector under FreeBSD?

2005-12-27 Thread Yuan Jue
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 09:37, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 On Tuesday, 27 December 2005 at  9:35:07 +0800, Yuan Jue wrote:
  hello, all
 
  can projectors be used under FreeBSD?

 Yes.

  if it could, how?

 What's the issue?  Plug it in and it should work.

yes, it does work just when I plug it and it works very well :)

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:35:04 AM
Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BSD Question's.
Wrote these words of wisdom:

 I would claim that XP is quite capable of screwing up 
 its system without any real help from the user.
 I installed a HP all-in-one scanner-plotter on my 
 a NEC laptop running XP professional and this worked 
 fairly well until HP suggested I should update the 
 software. Thereafter some minor annoyances/bugs appeared.
 
 I decided that I should go back to the original so I 
 activated the system unistall utility on the HP software.
 After partly removing the software the utility reported 
 errors; that it could not complete the uninstall.
 
 Nor would the original installation rerun because it thought
 it was already there. 
 
 So now I don't have access to the all-in-one. Removing
 all the directories on the machine identified as from HP
 and registry entries in identified as HP allowed some 
 reintallation to proceed but it is incomplete and doesn't
 run.
 
 I have never experienced this sort of lockout on a FreeBSD 
 system.
 
 It is looking as though I will need to do a completely new
 XP installation -- which I am not looking forward to.
 
 It has been said before Windows is OK until something goes 
 wrong; but then it is mostly unfixable.
 
 Malcolm Kay


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On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:

Get a copy of JV16 Power Tools and run that. Then check the HP site for
specific programs that DO totally uninstall their software. HP is
notorious for this behavior. Even Symantec on occasion pulls this stunt.

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom


--- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote:
 
  It doesn't really matter what the accepted
 standard is; its the one
  that *most* people are using. 
 
 Bring this rule to society and it won't take
 all that much time before
 we'll live in a jungle (happely ever after ?
 ;-)
 
 It's the decease of this era that lost of
 people find it diffcult to
 honor rules except their own.
 
 I know the saying money makes the world turn
 around
 I disagree.

Well if you're going to snip all of the context
out then you can't possibly have a credible
argument. You might as well go work for a newspaper.



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RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom


--- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Danial Thom
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:50 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Winelfred G. Pasamba
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL
 connections
 
 
 
 As stated, even by Ted, you have to register
 ALL
 of your addresses with ALL of your ISPs, so
 you
 can send your packets to ANYONE you want, even
 if
 they are filtering.
 
 
 No, what I said is that any ISP that is an
 end-node AS
 and gets a feed from a network must tell that
 network
 what IP blocks they are using to send traffic
 from.
 

You're a very sick person, Ted. If you use BGP,
both of your providers have to know about all
of your address blocks. So if they know about
your address blocks, then you can load balance
instead of using BGP. Its the same damn thing,
you incompetent blob :) 

There's little point in being multi-homed if you
can't send all of your traffic up EITHER pipe. If
you couldn't, you'd be out of business if one of
your pipes was down,which simply isn't the case.

I really don't know what's wrong with you, except
that you seem obsessed with being on the opposite
side of whatever arguement I'm one. You're making
a goddamned fool of yourself.

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 27 Dec Danial Thom wrote:
 --- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote:
  
   It doesn't really matter what the accepted standard is; its the
   one that *most* people are using. 
  
  Bring this rule to society and it won't take all that much time
  before we'll live in a jungle (happely ever after ?  ;-)
  
  It's the decease of this era that lost of people find it diffcult to
  honor rules except their own.
  
  I know the saying money makes the world turn around
  I disagree.
 
 Well if you're going to snip all of the context out then you can't
 possibly have a credible argument. You might as well go work for a
 newspaper.

I think my argument stands. The context is in the threat (as you well
know, because it's been written by you).

Furthermore you don't seem to think highly of people working for
newspapers.
Personally I don't look down on people, no matter their work nor social
status.

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a SED need

2005-12-27 Thread Jack Stone
I have some HTML files with hundreds of URLs that I need to modify using a 
search/replace string. I assume that SED(1) is the right tool to use, but 
every syntax I've tried has not worked.


Here is what I'm trying to do:
Change full URLs to relative paths, in other words, chop off the
http://www.example.com/; portion:


From this:

lia href=http://www.example.com/model/many.html;
To this:
lia href=model/many.html

I think it is the slashes and quotes that are giving me fits as I'm very 
much a novice on SED(1) syntax.


Would appreciate any tips on how to do the above so I can search and replace 
all of the hundreds of URLs.


Many thanks and Happy New Year!

Regards,
Jack

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pf, pfil hooks and if_bridge

2005-12-27 Thread Aaron Peterson
I was reading about the new if_bridge driver, and the ability of any
packet filter to interface with it that uses pfil hooks.  But I can't
seem to find any documentation that says whether pf is such a packet
filter?  Would someone enlighten me if pf is useable with the new
if_bridge driver?

Thanks,
Aaron
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Re: a SED need

2005-12-27 Thread Dmitry Sidorov
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 09:18 -0600, Jack Stone wrote:
 I have some HTML files with hundreds of URLs that I need to modify using a 
 search/replace string. I assume that SED(1) is the right tool to use, but 
 every syntax I've tried has not worked.
 
 Here is what I'm trying to do:
 Change full URLs to relative paths, in other words, chop off the
 http://www.example.com/; portion:
 
 From this:
 lia href=http://www.example.com/model/many.html;
 To this:
 lia href=model/many.html
 
 I think it is the slashes and quotes that are giving me fits as I'm very 
 much a novice on SED(1) syntax.
 
 Would appreciate any tips on how to do the above so I can search and replace 
 all of the hundreds of URLs.
 
 Many thanks and Happy New Year!
 
 Regards,
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Try this:
sed s/http:\\/\\/www.example.com// your_file

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom


--- Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:27 am, Danial Thom
 wrote:
 
  Schwab Streetsmart
  Accounting Software (CA)
  Quicken
  Photoshop
  Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs)
 
  Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there
 are
  some half-assed alternatives for some of
 these,
  but if I have to use something inferior to
 use
  FreeBSD then thats a point against it.
 
 
 This is all a question of the applications you
 need.
 My game is full custom integrated circuit
 design and 
 suitable CAD software is available, at a price,
 on 
 most unix style systems including Solaris,
 HP-UX, 
 various Linux distributions and FreeBSD. In
 this 
 field it is the Windows half-assed alternatives
 that are distinctly inferior.

No, its  a point of applications that one would
reasonably need to run a business. I can't run a
business from your CAD workstation. I can't live
without accounting software.

I would hardly call apps such as Cadence
half-assed, even if you prefer something else.
In fact, Candence runs on Windows, Linux and
Solaris but NOT FreeBSD, and its by far the most
used product the market in that genre.

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom


--- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 27 Dec Danial Thom wrote:
  --- dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote:
   
It doesn't really matter what the
 accepted standard is; its the
one that *most* people are using. 
   
   Bring this rule to society and it won't
 take all that much time
   before we'll live in a jungle (happely ever
 after ?  ;-)
   
   It's the decease of this era that lost of
 people find it diffcult to
   honor rules except their own.
   
   I know the saying money makes the world
 turn around
   I disagree.
  
  Well if you're going to snip all of the
 context out then you can't
  possibly have a credible argument. You might
 as well go work for a
  newspaper.

 
 I think my argument stands. The context is in
 the threat (as you well
 know, because it's been written by you).


I think you mean thread here? I didn't start
the thread. But you can't ignore reality. Reality
is that most people use IE. So if you ignore that
fact, then you are not good at your job of
designing websites, because it is a key factor. 

They don't make seats in busses 3' wide because
some people are really fat. They make them so
that the majority of people can fit comfortably
in them (well, reasonably comfortably anyway). If
you worry about every case, then you cheat the
majority, and your product is less useful.

 
 Furthermore you don't seem to think highly of
 people working for
 newspapers.
 Personally I don't look down on people, no
 matter their work nor social
 status.

My point is that newspapers are spinsters, as
they often take a word or phrase out of context
to make a story fit their agenda. It has nothing
to do with the status of the people who work
there, only their ethics and motivations, which
are to make things appear the way they think will
generate the most interest; not the truth.

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RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom


--- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 Does it meet the test I already outlined?
 
 Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a
 remote server,
 with both lines connected.  Time it.
 
 Disconnect 1 line, then repeat the test.  If
 the time to
 download and upload when both DSL lines are
 connected is
 half the time it takes when 1 DSL line is
 connected, then
 your load-balancing.
 
 If not, then you are not - although if it makes
 you feel
 like you haven't wasted your money claim your
 per session load balancing then I suppose it
 would be
 uncharitable to make you feel bad by pointing
 out that
 this is purely a marketing term with no
 networking
 significance.
 
 Oops.
 
 Ted


Ted seems incapable of grasping how things work,
so I don't recommend wasting your time on
anything he says.

As I stated, you cannot control how traffic comes
into your network, so Ted's little download test
is sure not to work. Traffic is routed to
whichever ISP has the best route. You can only
control how traffic goes OUT of your network. So
load-balancing can only increase your upload
speeds, not your download speeds. If you are
hosting this is useful. If you have mostly
download traffic, then its probably not worth is.

I don't know if Ted is trying to boondoggle you
into thinking his view is correct, or he just
doesn't understand it. I suspect its a bit of
both.

You should really try the freebsd-isp list, as
there are at least some people on there that have
a clue. Although even Ted's resume looks good on
paper, so you really can't tell. Incompetence is
widespread.

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Re: a SED need

2005-12-27 Thread David Kelly
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 09:18:56AM -0600, Jack Stone wrote:
 I have some HTML files with hundreds of URLs that I need to modify using a 
 search/replace string. I assume that SED(1) is the right tool to use, but 
 every syntax I've tried has not worked.
 
 Here is what I'm trying to do:
 Change full URLs to relative paths, in other words, chop off the
 http://www.example.com/; portion:
 
 From this:
 lia href=http://www.example.com/model/many.html;
 To this:
 lia href=model/many.html
 
 I think it is the slashes and quotes that are giving me fits as I'm very 
 much a novice on SED(1) syntax.

Am sure sed is the right high power production tool for getting the job
done but I get such things done easier in awk. Am sure many say the same
about perl. Sed, awk, perl, is the evolutionary order.

Save this as something like example.awk and chmod +x to make it
executable for easy reuse. Or you could awk -f example.exe input 
output

By saving to a file you bypass the need to escape characters from the
shell (which will be different depending on csh vs. sh) and yet again
from the RE parser. The escapes below are to make sure the literal
character is used for regular expression rather than a possible RE
interpretation.

Contains two patterns to match. The first matches the thing you are
looking to change. The match regular expression is repeated in gsub()
where its replaced with the plain text you desire. Print causes the
line to be outputed, and next ends the processing of that input line
so the next pattern isn't tried. Therefore the next match-all pattern
prints everything the first skipped.

#!/usr/bin/awk -f

/a href=\http:\/\/www.example.com\// {
gsub(/a href=\http:\/\/www.example.com\//, a href=\)
print
next
}

{ print }


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Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread Daniel Goldberg
Dear FreeBSD-
 
I'm a FreeBSD 6.0 newbie and very excited.
 
Could you please by any chance answer the following basic install
Question?
 
 
What is the order of installing FreeBSD for a dual-boot XP environment
on a single HDD using GAG
(ie, which do I install first, which partition for each os, is there a
resource for this answer published somewhere anyway???)
 
 
 
Thank you,
 
Daniel Goldberg
 
 
 
Daniel Franklin Goldberg
 
IT | Post-Production Systems Engineer
Avid ACSR (Unity/Windows)
Apple ACHDS
Microsoft MCP
Cisco CCNA
 
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mobile 847.400.7949
 
 
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Re: 3D Hardware Graphics

2005-12-27 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 06:28, Jon wrote:
 I'm wondering how to get 3D Hardware graphics going
 under FreeBSD.
 I tried both the LibGL.so that came with the driver
 for my graphics card and the default LibGL.so that
 came with FreeBSD '/usr/X11R6/lib' but no go, still
 slow software mode. I have a DRI radeon enabled driver
 and a radeon driver for xorg.conf, AGP was built into
 my kernel. What else can I try to get this going?

 FreeBSD 6.0 STABLE - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro

As far as I understand things, support for that card is still 
experimental, so make sure you have recent versions of 6.0-stable, 
x11-servers/xorg-server-snap and graphics/dri-devel.
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Re: a SED need

2005-12-27 Thread Mike Jeays
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 09:18 -0600, Jack Stone wrote:
 I have some HTML files with hundreds of URLs that I need to modify using a 
 search/replace string. I assume that SED(1) is the right tool to use, but 
 every syntax I've tried has not worked.
 
 Here is what I'm trying to do:
 Change full URLs to relative paths, in other words, chop off the
 http://www.example.com/; portion:
 
 From this:
 lia href=http://www.example.com/model/many.html;
 To this:
 lia href=model/many.html
 
 I think it is the slashes and quotes that are giving me fits as I'm very 
 much a novice on SED(1) syntax.
 
 Would appreciate any tips on how to do the above so I can search and replace 
 all of the hundreds of URLs.
 
 Many thanks and Happy New Year!
 
 Regards,
 Jack
 
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sed will allow other characters than '/' as its delimiter, which makes
it much easier to get escape sequences right, or avoid them altogether.

sed -e 's=/http=/https=g' is an example

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Re: Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:13:30 -0600
Daniel Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear FreeBSD-
  
 I'm a FreeBSD 6.0 newbie and very excited.
  
 Could you please by any chance answer the following basic install
 Question?
  
  
 What is the order of installing FreeBSD for a dual-boot XP environment
 on a single HDD using GAG
 (ie, which do I install first, which partition for each os, is there a
 resource for this answer published somewhere anyway???)
  
 Thank you,
  
 Daniel Goldberg
  
 Daniel Franklin Goldberg
  

1. Install Windows first, in the first partition.  If you want FreeBSD
to be able to write to the Windows partition, use the fat32 format
instead of NTFS. Do NOT create this partition to use the entire disk
as the FreeBSD installation does not include tools to resize the
existing Windows partition.

2. See more documentation regarding FreeBSD installation at:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: Palm (Zire) and /dev/ucom0 on 6.0

2005-12-27 Thread DW

Jonathan Chen wrote:


On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 12:15:11PM -0500, DW wrote:

[...]
 

I do all this on my new 6.0 machine. When I hit the sync button on zire, 
I get the expected dmesg output (detecting the palm device), but there 
is no /dev/ucom0 device in /dev. Why?
   



Aside from adding uvisor, you don't have to change any other
configuration files for 6.0; the USB tty support files have changed
from /dev/ucom* in 5.0 to /dev/cuaU* in 6+.

Cheers.
 


Thanks.

I tried this, but am still having no luck syncing either through Jpilot 
interface or directly at console using pilot-xfer.


When I hit the hotsync button on my Zire, I get:

ucom0: PalmOne, Inc. Palm Handheld, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2
ucom0: PalmOne, Inc. Palm Handheld, rev 1.00/1.10, addr 2

I then type:
# pilot-xfer -p /dev/cuaU0 -b backup

and I get:

   Listening to port: /dev/cuaU0
  
   Please press teh HotSync button now



then *nothing*

either I cancel on my zire, or it times out, and my dmesg output:

ucom0: ucomreadcb: IOERROR
ucom0: at uhub1 port2 (addr 2) disconnected
All threads purged from cuaU0
All threads purged from ttyU0
ucom0: detached


Of cource if I try to pilot-xfer the same command above *before* 
hitting hotsync on the zire, I get:


   The device /dev/cuaU0 does not exist..
   Possible solution:
 
  mkdnod /dev/cuaU0 c major minor


   Unable to bind to port: /dev/cuaU0


I'm doing all of this as *root* right now, just to get this working 
before I tackle the usual permissions issues that crop up when I do this 
as my regular user.


For laughs and giggles, I also tried all of this with /dev/ttyU0 as 
well, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.



Thanks for any help.

-DW
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RE: Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread Gayn Winters


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Daniel Goldberg
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:14 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
 Subject: Quick Install Question
 
 
 Dear FreeBSD-
  
 I'm a FreeBSD 6.0 newbie and very excited.
  
 Could you please by any chance answer the following basic install
 Question?
  
  
 What is the order of installing FreeBSD for a dual-boot XP environment
 on a single HDD using GAG
 (ie, which do I install first, which partition for each os, is there a
 resource for this answer published somewhere anyway???)

Welcome to FreeBSD!  By all means read the Handbook before going any
further.  Also, the FAQ's (both on freebsd.org) are very helpful to
newbies.  One very nice thing about FreeBSD is the huge number of
resources available on the web.  Google for them.

The quick answer to your question is install XP first, then FreeBSD.
The reason is that Windows is very impolite relative to coexisting with
other OS's, and it overwrites the MBR!

-gayn

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714/532-6776
www.bristolsystems.com


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Re: Wireless woes: upgrade 5.4 to 6.0, wi0, etc...

2005-12-27 Thread Kiffin Gish
Yes I have. I also added it to the loader.conf file, the kernel 
configuration file, done a buildkernel etc. but no luck.


# /boot/loader.conf
wlan_wep_load=YES

# /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
device wlan_wep

But still no luck. What am I forgetting?


Kiffin Gish
Gouda, The Netherlands

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To: Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:06
Subject: Re: Wireless woes: upgrade 5.4 to 6.0, wi0, etc...





On 12/27/05 18:22 Kiffin Gish said the following:

Since I upgraded from FreeBSD 5.4 to 6.0, I cannot for the life of me get
the wi0-interface to work at all (real bummer).

During boot I get the following error message:

ieee80211_load_module: load the wlan_wep module by hand for now

If afterwards I try to fiddle around with ifconfig wepmode on ..., I get 
the

following error message:

ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Operation not permitted


have you tried kldload wlan_wep ? :)

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Re: That Drive Geometry Bug

2005-12-27 Thread Daniel Rudy
At about the time of 12/26/2005 5:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated the
following:
 I am trying to back up the drive I have been using (which is now full)
 onto a 60GB Seagate IDE drive - ST360020A. After a bunch of failures at
 configuring the disk, I did some searching on the web and found some info
 on the drive geometry bug.
 
 I followed the directions I found there - essentially, go into my BIOS at
 boot time, write down the drive geometry that the BIOS thinks I have and
 then plug those numbers into FreeBSD fdisk at the beginning of
 installation.
 
 What happened:
 1. FreeBSD complained that the drive geometry it was seeing was wrong, and
 was using its own best guess: 7297/255/63.
 2. I hit G and edited the C/H/S to that which the BIOS reported:
 28733/16/255.
 3. I hit Enter; the installer said `Nope, you're wrong! I'm going to use
 my best guess instead!'
 
 No matter how many times I try to enter the info, it changes it back to
 whatever it thinks is more correct.
 
 I tried switching the head and sector info (trying 28733/255/16). but no joy.
 
 Is there a way to coax the installer into cooperating?
 
 Thanks -
 -- paz.

I just recently ran into this problem myself.  Just use FreeBSD's best
guess and it will work fine.  If you set the BIOS to LBA mode, you will
find that matches FreeBSD's best guess.

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RE: sysinstall full install remotely with no serial console, possible?

2005-12-27 Thread Webster, Andrew
You might want to check out ethercons, but you'll probably have to roll
your own boot CD with this included.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 07:13
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: sysinstall full install remotely with no serial console,
possible?

Hey guys.

Basically in my situation I have a broken server in colo with no
serial 
console.  It works for the most part but write access to / is gone, and 
all attempts at repair are not coming about.

I'd like to reinstall all but /home (has a seperate slice),
however I 
would have to do so via SSH without the aid of a serial console, and 
with no CD in the drive.

I know sysinstall can run from the OS, and it can install over
the 
network, is it possible to run this full installation remotely in this 
way, given that it's starting from an installed and configured OS?

Thanks,
Elliot
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Re: Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:39:04 AM
Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Quick Install Question
Wrote these words of wisdom:

 On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:13:30 -0600
 Daniel Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear FreeBSD-
[..]
 
 1. Install Windows first, in the first partition.  If you want FreeBSD
 to be able to write to the Windows partition, use the fat32 format
 instead of NTFS. Do NOT create this partition to use the entire disk
 as the FreeBSD installation does not include tools to resize the
 existing Windows partition.
 
 2. See more documentation regarding FreeBSD installation at:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html
 
 Best of luck,
 
 Andrew Gould


* REPLY SEPARATOR *
On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:

Perhaps I am missing something here, but I have WinXP installed on one
of my computers. The HD is formatted with NTFS, not fat32. Using Samba, i
can both read and write to this disk.

Maybe I am missing something from the original posters message.

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Re: DVD burning GUI

2005-12-27 Thread Shantanoo Mahajan
+++ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [freebsd] [26-12-05 16:15 -0200]:
| Hi Nicolas,
| 
|   I forget to say that I'm using Gnome, does k3b work with it?

Yes. KDE libraries will be installed.


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dvd drive

2005-12-27 Thread eoghan

Hello
Im wondering how to tell freeBSD about my 2 dvd drives. k3b  
automatically detects them but it hasnt found either.

Thanks
Eoghan
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Missing lib

2005-12-27 Thread scuba

Hi all,


	My system (FBSD 5.4, Xorg, Gnome2), started to show the following 
message.


/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libexif.so.10 not found, required by 
nautilus


I indeed, could not find libexif.so.10.
How can I fix that?

- Thank you
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RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom


--- Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  
  Does it meet the test I already outlined?
  
  Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a
  remote server,
  with both lines connected.  Time it.
  
  Disconnect 1 line, then repeat the test.  If
  the time to
  download and upload when both DSL lines are
  connected is
  half the time it takes when 1 DSL line is
  connected, then
  your load-balancing.
  
  If not, then you are not - although if it
 makes
  you feel
  like you haven't wasted your money claim your
  per session load balancing then I suppose
 it
  would be
  uncharitable to make you feel bad by pointing
  out that
  this is purely a marketing term with no
  networking
  significance.
  
  Oops.
  
  Ted
 
 
 Ted seems incapable of grasping how things
 work,
 so I don't recommend wasting your time on
 anything he says.
 
 As I stated, you cannot control how traffic
 comes
 into your network, so Ted's little download
 test
 is sure not to work. Traffic is routed to
 whichever ISP has the best route. You can only
 control how traffic goes OUT of your network.
 So
 load-balancing can only increase your upload
 speeds, not your download speeds. If you are
 hosting this is useful. If you have mostly
 download traffic, then its probably not worth
 is.
 
 I don't know if Ted is trying to boondoggle you
 into thinking his view is correct, or he just
 doesn't understand it. I suspect its a bit of
 both.
 
 You should really try the freebsd-isp list, as
 there are at least some people on there that
 have
 a clue. Although even Ted's resume looks good
 on
 paper, so you really can't tell. Incompetence
 is
 widespread.
 
 DT

To sooth the nerves of the OP, the truth about
this is that it might work and it might not.
Ted's assertion that all ISPs do ingress address
filtering is simply wrong. Not even close. My
assumption that none do isn't right either. IF
when one of your lines goes down you are still
online then you can load-balance outbound. IF you
are multi-homed or have a working backup
scenario, then you can load balance outbound.

There is much discussion on the trade-offs of
ingress address filtering, and many believe its
the old cut off your nose to spite your face.
It reduces the cpu power of your router by
causing it to test every packet coming in, it
makes multi-homing not work, and it makes
changing addresses on a large network extremely
more difficult, in order to thwart an unlikely
event. I recommend that my customers isolate
co-location customers so when worms hit they can
find the problem easier. Few do because its
easier to have everyone on the same wire. My
cable company, for example, changes their
networking scheme every few months, and if they
had to change ingress filters on 100s of routers
manually it would be ridiculously difficult to
do. So they don't address filter.

Ted is somehow in denial that 100s of people load
balance to different destinations. Since he
doesn't know the terms (such as round-robin, etc)
you can be sure he's never done any of it. The
simple truth is that you have to try things. You
never know what your upstream is doing. DSL is a
strange animal that requires muxes in often very
complicated meshes. If you can move your default
router to your other router then you are likely
not filtered.

There are many issues more important than
address-spoofing, such as stability and
performance. I have customers that are so
disorganized that they can't isolate any known
address group to any specific router, and others
that require that you register your MAC address
with them or nothing will work at all. You can't
postulate what your situation is. You have to do
testing and figure out what you can and can't do.
The more you know about how things REALLY work,
the more innovative you can be in your
implementation.

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Re: Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:21:26 -0500
Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:39:04 AM
 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Quick Install Question
 Wrote these words of wisdom:
 
  On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:13:30 -0600
  Daniel Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Dear FreeBSD-
   [..]
  
  1. Install Windows first, in the first partition.  If you want
  FreeBSD to be able to write to the Windows partition, use the fat32
  format instead of NTFS. Do NOT create this partition to use the
  entire disk as the FreeBSD installation does not include tools to
  resize the existing Windows partition.
  
  2. See more documentation regarding FreeBSD installation at:
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html
  
  Best of luck,
  
  Andrew Gould
 
 * REPLY SEPARATOR *
 On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:
 
 Perhaps I am missing something here, but I have WinXP installed on one
 of my computers. The HD is formatted with NTFS, not fat32. Using
 Samba, i can both read and write to this disk.
 
 Maybe I am missing something from the original posters message.
 
 -- 
 Gerard Seibert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Is the WinXP partition in the same computer that is running FreeBSD? Or
is the NTFS partition a shared directory on a separate WinXP computer?
(I was not aware that Samba could be used to read NTFS partitions
residing on a FreeBSD computer.)

The original poster wishes to dual boot WinXP and FreeBSD on the same
computer.

Andrew Gould
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Firefox 1.5 complains that it is already running

2005-12-27 Thread Rob
Hi,

I compiled Firefox 1.5 from ports but when attempting to start it I get
the error message:

Firefox is already running, but is not responding.  To open a new
window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
your system.

I could not find any Firefox or Mozilla type of process running.
I am starting it from a terminal and I get no error messages there.
Ending Xorg and then starting it again does not help.

Finally Firefox was compiled with -o -pipe -mtune=pentium4, so I doubt
if there would be any problem with the build.

Thank you.

Rob Lytle

ps.  Mozilla runs OK, but I had to turn off java and javascript, and
also block pop-up windows in order to stop the occasional 100% cpu
usage and zombie processes.

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Re: Firefox 1.5 complains that it is already running

2005-12-27 Thread Aaron Peterson
On 12/27/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I compiled Firefox 1.5 from ports but when attempting to start it I get
 the error message:

 Firefox is already running, but is not responding.  To open a new
 window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart
 your system.

 I could not find any Firefox or Mozilla type of process running.
 I am starting it from a terminal and I get no error messages there.
 Ending Xorg and then starting it again does not help.

 Finally Firefox was compiled with -o -pipe -mtune=pentium4, so I doubt
 if there would be any problem with the build.

 Thank you.

 Rob Lytle

 ps.  Mozilla runs OK, but I had to turn off java and javascript, and
 also block pop-up windows in order to stop the occasional 100% cpu
 usage and zombie processes.

There is probably a file named lock somewhere under the .mozilla
directory in you home directory.  Usually these are left behind when
firefox has exited uncleanly.  Remove the lock file and all should
be back to normal...

Aaron

find ~/.mozilla -iname lock
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Re: dlink wireless adapter

2005-12-27 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Imran Imtiaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 how can i make my dlink DWL-G122 wireless usb adapter work with freebsd?

IIRC it's supported by the ural driver.  With that knowledge and the
wireless networking chapter in the Handbook, you should be fine.

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Re: Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:42:54 PM
Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Quick Install Question
Wrote these words of wisdom:

  
 
 Is the WinXP partition in the same computer that is running FreeBSD? Or
 is the NTFS partition a shared directory on a separate WinXP computer?
 (I was not aware that Samba could be used to read NTFS partitions
 residing on a FreeBSD computer.)
 
 The original poster wishes to dual boot WinXP and FreeBSD on the same
 computer.
 
 Andrew Gould


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On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:

Actually, there are three computers. One is running FreeBSD 5.4 and the
other two have WinXP Pro installed. I networked all three together. The
WinXP systems are using the NTFS format. Samba can read and write to
both of the WinXP machines without any problems.

I really do not know if this is germane to a dual boot system however.
It probably is not since WinXP would not actually be running when
FreeBSD was in this type of configuration.

Fat32 is really a poor file system when compared to NTFS. It is too bad
that he is unable to get a second machine and use FreeBSD on it instead
of dual booting.

Just my 2¢.

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Re: Using Sendmail to add headers to mail

2005-12-27 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday, December 24, 2005 2:23:28 PM
Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Using Sendmail to add headers to mail
Wrote these words of wisdom:

 I am not sure if this is possible or not. Is it possible to add custom 
 'X-' headers to mail using Sendmail? For instance, suppose I wanted to add 
 the Habeas Headers http://www.habeas.com/ to all my outgoing email. Is 
 it possible to do via Sendmail, or can this only be accomplished via my 
 MUA?
 
 I noticed on the Habeas site that there was a configuration for Exim, if 
 that means anything.
 
 
 -- 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Well, to answer my own question, I found out that I could use LOCAL_CONFIG
along with the 'H' macro to add the headers in the {domain}.mc file.
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unattended ports upgrade possible?

2005-12-27 Thread Peter
Is there any way to fully automate the upgrade of all installed ports? 
Typically ncurses screens prompt for compile options.  Is there any way to
instruct portupgrade to use default compile values?

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port tree fetch errors

2005-12-27 Thread Tofik Suleymanov

My ports-supfile is:

*default host=cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
ports-all

i do:

cvsup -g -z -L 2 /etc/ports-supfile 


and get this:

Updating collection ports-all/cvs
Cannot calculate checksum for /usr/ports/devel/boost/pkg-plist: 
Input/output error
Cannot calculate checksum for 
/usr/ports/devel/clint/files/patch-python.h: Input/output error
Cannot calculate checksum for 
/usr/ports/devel/crossgo32-djgpp2/pkg-plist: Input/output error

Checkout ports/devel/Makefile
Cannot calculate checksum for /usr/ports/devel/elib/files/patch-aa: 
Input/output error


Need to mention that after cvsup ends i cannot compile php4 and get this 
errors:

Makefile, line 125: warning:  -q MPM_NAME returned non-zero status

Something happened to ports tree ?
I've also tried different cvsup servers also, but had no success.


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troubles while cvsuping ports

2005-12-27 Thread Tofik Suleymanov

ms# uname -a
FreeBSD ms.gltcall.com 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  3 
09:36:13 UTC 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  
i386
ms#   


ms# cat /etc/ports-supfile

*default host=cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix

*default compress

ports-all

ms#

i do cvsup and get a lot of errors:

Updating collection ports-all/cvs
Cannot calculate checksum for /usr/ports/devel/boost/pkg-plist: 
Input/output error
Cannot calculate checksum for 
/usr/ports/devel/clint/files/patch-python.h: Input/output error


After cvsup ends i cannot install php4 port.Seems like Makefile is broken:

Makefile, line 125: warning:  -q MPM_NAME returned non-zero status

Something happened to ports tree ?



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Re: port tree fetch errors

2005-12-27 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Tofik Suleymanov píše v út 27. 12. 2005 v 22:24 +:
 My ports-supfile is:
 
 *default host=cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
 *default base=/var/db
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs tag=.
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 *default compress
 ports-all
 
 i do:
 
 cvsup -g -z -L 2 /etc/ports-supfile 
 
 and get this:
 
 Updating collection ports-all/cvs
 Cannot calculate checksum for /usr/ports/devel/boost/pkg-plist: 
 Input/output error
 Cannot calculate checksum for 
 /usr/ports/devel/clint/files/patch-python.h: Input/output error
 Cannot calculate checksum for 
 /usr/ports/devel/crossgo32-djgpp2/pkg-plist: Input/output error
  Checkout ports/devel/Makefile
 Cannot calculate checksum for /usr/ports/devel/elib/files/patch-aa: 
 Input/output error

Can you read the content of those files? I'd bet you got either
corrupted filesystem, or your hard drive is dying.

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Re: unattended ports upgrade possible?

2005-12-27 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 03:20:07PM -0500, Peter wrote:
 Is there any way to fully automate the upgrade of all installed ports? 
 Typically ncurses screens prompt for compile options.  Is there any way to
 instruct portupgrade to use default compile values?

Add a `BATCH=yes' to /etc/make.conf.
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Re: Missing lib

2005-12-27 Thread Björn König

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Hi all,


My system (FBSD 5.4, Xorg, Gnome2), started to show the following 
message.


/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libexif.so.10 not found, required 
by nautilus


I indeed, could not find libexif.so.10.
How can I fix that?


There are several ways how this could happen, but I don't want to 
speculate about the reasons. I guess you have installed nautilus 2.10 
and a newer or older version of libexif.


Make sure that you have either latest versions of both pieces of 
software, i.e. libexif 0.6.12_1 and nautilus2 2.12.2, or install both as 
packages from the same source FTP directory.


If you are still unsure then show pkg_version -v.

Regards
Björn
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Scanner in FBSD

2005-12-27 Thread Bernt Hansson

Hello?!

I have a scanner that is on the list at sane and it is connected to ppc0 
which I belive is the first parallelport.


Anyone got a scanner attached to ppc0 to funktion? How?


Scanner:

Primax 4800 Direct

Driver:

plustek_pp

OS:

FreeBSD 5.4


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upgrade by hand

2005-12-27 Thread David Bear
In all the searches I've done about upgrade from a Rel4.x to Rel6. all
the info seems to center on using cvsup and port upgrade, and using
Rel5 is an intermediate step to get to Rel6.

Maybe I just like pain, but are there any instructions for 'manually'
upgrading from 'most any prior freebsd' to latest production release?

In other words, what files MUST be backed up and restored
(master.password, etc) and what CANNOT be reused (changes to current
password/group files or other files are too much to allow an upgrade
of this type)

I'm just concerned about Freebsd base  -- I only use 3 items from the
ports collection and I don't mind rebuilding these.

(perhaps I'm stuck on the word 'upgrade' when there is a better word
for a format and reload but preserve user/group/file system mode bits
etc)

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New IDE drive in old PC

2005-12-27 Thread Robert Ames

I have an old (very old) ASUS P5 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.4.
The boot disk is a 40MB Western Digital WD400 IDE drive jumpered to
only use 32MB so it can be booted from since the BIOS in this PC
(the latest and greatest) can't deal with anything larger than 32MB.
This PC is working well for me and I don't want to upgrade it.
However I would like to add a lot of disk space.  So my question
is, can I go out and buy a new 300 GB (or whatever) IDE disk and
attach it to the secondary IDE controller and hope to use all 300
GB?  I will still use the old disk for booting and to hold the OS.
The new disk will be just for data.  If this will just work how do
I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed?

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Re: Scanner in FBSD

2005-12-27 Thread Micah

Bernt Hansson wrote:

Hello?!

I have a scanner that is on the list at sane and it is connected to ppc0 
which I belive is the first parallelport.


Anyone got a scanner attached to ppc0 to funktion? How?


Scanner:

Primax 4800 Direct

Driver:

plustek_pp

OS:

FreeBSD 5.4




The last time I tried, plustek_pp required libieee1284 for parallel port 
access.  Libieee1284 is unsupported in FreeBSD (at least the 5 series 
FreeBSD).  Your best bet is to go out and get a supported USB or SCSI 
scanner or install your scanner on a Linux SANE server.


HTH,
Micah
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Re: Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread Doug Hawkins

Gerard Seibert wrote:


On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:

Actually, there are three computers. One is running FreeBSD 5.4 and the
other two have WinXP Pro installed. I networked all three together. The
WinXP systems are using the NTFS format. Samba can read and write to
both of the WinXP machines without any problems.

I really do not know if this is germane to a dual boot system however.
It probably is not since WinXP would not actually be running when
FreeBSD was in this type of configuration.

Fat32 is really a poor file system when compared to NTFS. It is too bad
that he is unable to get a second machine and use FreeBSD on it instead
of dual booting.



Unfortunately, NTFS is not documented by Microsoft so non-Microsoft 
drivers cannot write to that file system reliably.  See 
http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ -- they've put a lot of work into discovering 
how to use NTFS.  So 'out-of-the-box', FreeBSD OS can mount and read 
from NTFS partitions, but not write.  Samba allows computers to exchange 
files, but uses each computer's local OS to access a filesystem.


There are GUI tools that use the linux-ntfs utility 'ntfsresize' to 
resize an NTFS partition, so you can add a FreeBSD partition even if you 
have a pre-built NTFS install.  I keep a copy of 'SystemRescueCD' around 
for just that purpose, since it has those tools already.  Some of the 
WinXP recovery' disks will wipe out your entire drive when you 
'recover', so as most people will recommend, install Windows first(!) 
because it's install utilities are very presumptuous and you can easily 
waste all your previous effort on a different OS.


I have read that there is a way to use the WinXP NTFS driver from within 
Linux (and probably FreeBSD) to provide NTFS write support, but I have 
not tried that yet.


In any case,  Welcome Daniel!  Good luck with your install.  If you are 
installing on a machine whose BIOS is a few years old, you may find the 
1024-cylinder limitation: the BIOS will not boot from a partition whose 
start is beyond that limit.  If it's a new machine, then you probably 
don't need to worry about it.  If you do, create a small NTFS partition 
for WinXP, then the FreeBSD partition, then a larger NTFS partition if 
you need it (it will appear as drive 'd:').  I always keep a reasonably 
sized FAT32 partition so I can transfer files between the two OS's 
(that's the only 'common' read/write FS).

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question

2005-12-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good morning !
Sorry for my bad English. I'm write from Russia. I have some problem
with installing FreeBSD 6 amd64 ! You my last chance ! No one dont
give me a answer for my question.
I put CD to cdrom and after some second I press 1 to install default
settings. After some second I see that


Vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounter TSC frequency 221134344311z quality 800
Timecounter tuck every 1.000 msec


What's wrong what I do wrong ?? Please say !!
Thank s ! Good bye !

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3D Hardware Graphics

2005-12-27 Thread Jon
 Hello all,
 
 I'm wondering how to get 3D Hardware graphics going
 under FreeBSD. 
 I tried both the LibGL.so that came with the driver
 for my graphics card and the default LibGL.so that
 came with FreeBSD '/usr/X11R6/lib' but no go, still
 slow software mode. I have a DRI radeon enabled
driver
 and a radeon driver for xorg.conf, AGP was built
into
 my kernel. What else can I try to get this going?
 
 Thanks
 FreeBSD 6.0 STABLE - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro

This is almost not possible because ATI doesn't
provide a driver for 
FreeBSD and the driver that comes with X.org supports
only models up to 
Radeon 9000 concerning 3D capabilities; you'll find
more information 
about supported cards in the radeon manpage of the
xorg-server 
package. There is an open source project that aims 3D
support for more 
recent cards:

http://r300.sourceforge.net/R300.php

Regards
Björn
---



Hello,

I managed to get r300 to compile and installed into
'usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri - r300_dri.so'. I found a
nice source package under the FreeBSD ports
'dri-6.2.20050719,1' that downloded the source for
r300, Mesa3D and drm, it built and installed fine. I
ran Xmoto as a test GL game and it was still slow 2
FPS mode, I did a glxinfo command and it said dri is
not enabled. Any more suggestions to get this going?
Thanks!

Xorg.conf:
--
Section Module
Load  dbe
Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  xtrap
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection
-
Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Identifier  Card0
Driver  ati
VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
BoardName   Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800]
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
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Re: Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread albi
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:13:30 -0600
Daniel Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the order of installing FreeBSD for a dual-boot XP environment
 on a single HDD using GAG
 (ie, which do I install first, which partition for each os, is there a
 resource for this answer published somewhere anyway???)

first install the Microsoft-OS, and then FreeBSD (and make sure there's
1 primary partition left for FreeBSD to install on)

see also :
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html

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Re: FreeBSD Logo Contest -- whom to contact about?

2005-12-27 Thread Martin P. Hansen
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, martinko wrote:
 also, could other submitted designs be seen somewhere? (at least top 5 
 of them)

I'd like to see them as well. I suppose, if bold enough, one could
mail the authors found at http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/ .

I've come to belive that this http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/640.png
was one of the entries.

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Re: Scanner in FBSD

2005-12-27 Thread Bernt Hansson

Micah wrote:

Bernt Hansson wrote:


Hello?!

I have a scanner that is on the list at sane and it is connected to 
ppc0 which I belive is the first parallelport.



Anyone got a scanner attached to ppc0 to funktion? How?



Scanner:
Primax 4800 Direct
Driver:
plustek_pp
OS:
FreeBSD 5.4


The last time I tried, plustek_pp required libieee1284 for parallel port 
access.  


 Libieee1284 is unsupported in FreeBSD (at least the 5 series
FreeBSD). 


I've noticed that.

/Frustation

A

Frustration/


Your best bet is to go out and get a supported USB or SCSI


Vell i've been looking at some agfa skanners.


scanner or install your scanner on a Linux SANE server.


That's a no op


HTH,
Micah
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Segment Fault w/ PHP

2005-12-27 Thread Brent Jensen
I'm getting segment faults on all 3 of my webservers.  I upgraded all of my 
packages thinking that would fix the offending program; however, php is 
throwing segment faults.  For example, when trying to INSTALL pear_DB.  I 
get seg faults when updating


# cd /usr/ports/databases/pear-DB
# make (goes though its thing)
# make install
===  Installing for pear-DB-1.7.6,1
===   pear-DB-1.7.6,1 depends on file: /usr/local/share/pear/PEAR.php - found
===   pear-DB-1.7.6,1 depends on executable: pear - found
===   Generating packing list
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if databases/pear-DB already installed
=== Installing documentation in /usr/local/share/doc/pear/DB.
=== Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/DB.
install ok: channel://pear.php.net/DB-1.7.6
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
*** Error code 139

Stop in /usr/ports/databases/pear-DB.

/var/messages shows: (php), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)

ALSO:

portupgrade -f pear-Mail_Queue
---  Reinstalling 'pear-Mail_Queue-1.1.3' (mail/pear-Mail_Queue)
---  Building '/usr/ports/mail/pear-Mail_Queue'
===  Cleaning for libiconv-1.9.2_1
... blah blah blah ...
===  Checking if mail/pear-Mail already installed
=== Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/Mail.
install ok: channel://pear.php.net/Mail-1.1.9
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
*** Error code 139

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/pear-Mail.
*** Error code 1

And when stopping or restarting Apache it generates an HTTP segment fault
(httpd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)

When I rem out from apache things are happy!

Every port is now current.  I have even rebuilt several ports.  This one's 
got me.  Any hints?


Thanks,

Brent

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Re: question

2005-12-27 Thread Martin P. Hansen
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have some problem  with installing FreeBSD 6 amd64 !
...
 I put CD to cdrom and after some second I press 1 to install default
 settings. After some second I see that
...
 
 Vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
 Timecounter TSC frequency 221134344311z quality 800
 Timecounter tuck every 1.000 msec

What you see it the kernel diagnostic messages. In my diagnosticmessages
``Timecounters'' appear near the end, just before the harddisk
controller initialization. If your system stops with the message
you wrote, it might be some compability issues between your hardware
and the kernel.

You might narrow the problem down by experimenting with various
compability options in the bios. One example could be to enable (or
disable) SATA compability mode, PATA I think.

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 02:15 am, Danial Thom wrote:
 --- Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:27 am, Danial Thom
 
  wrote:
   Schwab Streetsmart
   Accounting Software (CA)
   Quicken
   Photoshop
   Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs)
  
   Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there
 
  are
 
   some half-assed alternatives for some of
 
  these,
 
   but if I have to use something inferior to
 
  use
 
   FreeBSD then thats a point against it.
 
  This is all a question of the applications you
  need.
  My game is full custom integrated circuit
  design and
  suitable CAD software is available, at a price,
  on
  most unix style systems including Solaris,
  HP-UX,
  various Linux distributions and FreeBSD. In
  this
  field it is the Windows half-assed alternatives
  that are distinctly inferior.

 No, its  a point of applications that one would
 reasonably need to run a business. I can't run a
 business from your CAD workstation. I can't live
 without accounting software.

 I would hardly call apps such as Cadence
 half-assed, even if you prefer something else.
 In fact, Candence runs on Windows, Linux and
 Solaris but NOT FreeBSD, and its by far the most
 used product the market in that genre.

Cadence have a wide range of products some of which 
run on Windows platforms.  But you will be struggling 
to do much with Full Custom on XP.

There are some alternatives offered on FreeBSD -- 
admittedly inferior to the top Cadence products but
also at less than 10% of the licensing costs.

I thought the discussion was about desktop software
not business software; but even so if your business 
is IC design then I would think a good CAD suite was 
pretty essential.

Malcolm Kay

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RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Quoting Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 
 --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Danial Thom
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:50 AM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Winelfred G. Pasamba
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL
  connections
  
  
  
  As stated, even by Ted, you have to register
  ALL
  of your addresses with ALL of your ISPs, so
  you
  can send your packets to ANYONE you want, even
  if
  they are filtering.
  
  
  No, what I said is that any ISP that is an
  end-node AS
  and gets a feed from a network must tell that
  network
  what IP blocks they are using to send traffic
  from.
  
 
 You're a very sick person, Ted. If you use BGP,
 both of your providers have to know about all
 of your address blocks. 

My VERY FIRST response to the original poster was
that their scheme would not work UNLESS they were
running BGP.

 So if they know about
 your address blocks, then you can load balance
 instead of using BGP. Its the same damn thing,
 you incompetent blob :) 
 
 There's little point in being multi-homed if you
 can't send all of your traffic up EITHER pipe. If
 you couldn't, you'd be out of business if one of
 your pipes was down,which simply isn't the case.
 
 I really don't know what's wrong with you, except
 that you seem obsessed with being on the opposite
 side of whatever arguement I'm one. You're making
 a goddamned fool of yourself.
 

I think you are arguing with a series of straw men.
Perhaps you might try READING THE RESPONSES for a change?

Ted

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RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Quoting Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 
 --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  
  Does it meet the test I already outlined?
  
  Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a
  remote server,
  with both lines connected.  Time it.
  
  Disconnect 1 line, then repeat the test.  If
  the time to
  download and upload when both DSL lines are
  connected is
  half the time it takes when 1 DSL line is
  connected, then
  your load-balancing.
  
  If not, then you are not - although if it makes
  you feel
  like you haven't wasted your money claim your
  per session load balancing then I suppose it
  would be
  uncharitable to make you feel bad by pointing
  out that
  this is purely a marketing term with no
  networking
  significance.
  
  Oops.
  
  Ted
 
 
 Ted seems incapable of grasping how things work,
 so I don't recommend wasting your time on
 anything he says.
 
 As I stated, you cannot control how traffic comes
 into your network, so Ted's little download test
 is sure not to work.

Danial, once again your having trouble reading.  That
little test was for BOTH a download AND an upload test.

So, are you sure that the upload component of my little
test WILL work?  Perhaps we might have the poster I
responded to actually RUN the test and report the results?

 Traffic is routed to
 whichever ISP has the best route. You can only
 control how traffic goes OUT of your network. So
 load-balancing can only increase your upload
 speeds, not your download speeds. If you are
 hosting this is useful. If you have mostly
 download traffic, then its probably not worth is.
 

Once again Danial you flee to arguing from theory and
not reality.  Until the second poster tries the test I
proposed and reports the results, you are really wasting
time.

As I said before, try the test.  If your download speed is
doubled with both DSL lines turned on, your load balancing.
If your upload speed is doubled with both DSL lines turned
on then your load balancing.

If your download speed is NOT doubled YET your upload speed
IS doubled with both DSL lines connected, then you are
also load balancing - after a fashion - although the reason
this works is that one of the ISP's is not properly ingress
filtering.  (assuming the DSL lines are connected to different
ISPs, presumably if they are connected to the same ISP you would
have already got multilink PPP or some other kind of real load
balancing setup with that ISP)  And if that is the case,
then the ISP that isn't ingress filtering, has a network full
of spoofed traffic from DDoS trojans and such, and it is unlikely
you would find their bandwidth that useable in the first place.
Additionally, since your making
use of the failure of one of the ISP's to properly ingress
filter, this sort of 'load balance' could disappear without
warning.  It is not something you would depend on for production
use and few ISP's are like this anymore.

In any case, I think chances that the second poster would
observed doubled upload speed with both lines connected, on
the file test I illustrated, are virtually zero.

Ted
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Re: make buildworld

2005-12-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-12-26 23:49, Doug Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am upgrading a server to 6.0 and encountered an error in make
 buildworld.  However, I don't know what the error was as I piped
 stdout to a file, but not stderr.

I usually keep them both, with something like:

# cd /usr/src/
# cvs -q up -APd | logfile.cvs
# make buildworld buildkernel 21 | tee logfile.build

 It was fairly near the end so I really hate to restart from the
 beginning again.  The master server is a fairly slow machine.

Then, someone could argue that the problem is not a build that's
failing, but the fact that you're using a slow machine as the build
server :-/

I'm afraid there's no way to recover data that has scrolled off the
scrollback buffer of syscons or screen(1), when the same data wasn't
saved in a file.

 When something like this happens, is there a way to restart the make
 where it died?

You can try using -DNO_CLEAN, but this will do a fair bit of work too.

 Is there an easy way to build the specific module that failed to get
 the complete errors?  In this case the module was /usr/libexec/telnet.
 I went to /usr/src/ libexec/telnet and did a make.

Then the error was somewhere else.  Were you using make -j XXX with a
non-default XXX number?

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Load Balancing: How Busy are the servers?

2005-12-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Two part question here ... first leads into the second, and the second 
might answer the first ...


1. What variables on a server should be monitored to determine how busy a 
server is?  For instance, I've always been taugth that 'loadavg' is not an 
indication of how busy a server is, since a high loadavg on a single CPU 
server might be an overloaded server, but moderately loaded on a dual CPU 
server ... disk i/o, cpu usage, ethernet throughput ... what else?


2. Are there any tools that I can run to give me a point in time summary 
of how busy a server is based on these several factors?


Basically, I'd like to keep track of multiple servers and be able to say 
this server is running 75% of capacity, time to upgrade or move things 
off of it ... if its possible ... ?


thanks ...


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Re: Alpha 6.0 Install...

2005-12-27 Thread Dieter
 boot_osflags0,0

leads to:

 Unrecognized boot flag '0'.
 Unrecognized boot flag ','.
 Unrecognized boot flag '0'.

NetBSD/alpha uses

s single-user mode bootstrap.
a (automatic) multi-user mode bootstrap.

although FreeBSD may well use different flags.

I can't seem to find an Alpha version of FreeBSD's boot(8) man page.  :-(

FreeBSD's x86 boot(8) man page says 's' is also single user, so...

Perhaps try:

 boot -flags s dka400
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Re: upgrade by hand

2005-12-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-12-27 15:05, David Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In all the searches I've done about upgrade from a Rel4.x to Rel6. all
 the info seems to center on using cvsup and port upgrade, and using
 Rel5 is an intermediate step to get to Rel6.

That's right.  It should always be possible to use the latest version of
RELENG_X to build and install version RELENG_Y when (Y = X + 1).  The
same is not always true for two major branches ahead.

 Maybe I just like pain, but are there any instructions for 'manually'
 upgrading from 'most any prior freebsd' to latest production release?

I've upgraded systems from 4.7-RELEASE to 6.0-CURRENT in more than one
steps: one for 4.7 == 5.3-RELEASE, 5.3-RELEASE == 5-STABLE, and then
finally, 5-STABLE == 6.0-CURRENT.

The process of building and installing everything is always the same:
buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, boot single user, installworld,
mergemaster.  Any extra steps required every time are described in
detail in /usr/src/UPDATING after the source tree is updated at each
upgrade step.

 In other words, what files MUST be backed up and restored
 (master.password, etc) and what CANNOT be reused (changes to current
 password/group files or other files are too much to allow an upgrade
 of this type)

A full backup is wise, at this point.  If something goes wrong after 2
or 3 build  install cycles, it's nice to be able to go back to a
well-known, stable state.

 I'm just concerned about Freebsd base -- I only use 3 items from the
 ports collection and I don't mind rebuilding these.

 (perhaps I'm stuck on the word 'upgrade' when there is a better word
 for a format and reload but preserve user/group/file system mode bits
 etc)

Are you installing 6.0-RELEASE from scratch or building from source?

If you are installing from scratch, reformatting the partitions too
(which is the only way to reformat the partitions to use UFS2 instead of
UFS1), then it's still a good idea to start with a full backup.  If you
have the installation disks of the original FreeBSD version, and you
don't mind a little extra downtime, you can even create 2 sets of backup
files:

- Original FreeBSD version of the base system
- Your current base system installation

Then go ahead and install FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE.  You can compare the
files of the two backup sets, i.e. by looking at the output of commands
like:

# tar tzvf backup-freebsd-plain.tar.gz | sort -k +9  /tmp/before.txt
# tar tzvf backup-freebsd.tar.gz | sort -k +9  /tmp/after.txt

This should give you a good idea of what files are different in your
current installation from the original FreeBSD files, and you can
selectively restore on top of FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE the changes that you
want to keep :)

- Giorgos

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Re: Wireless NIC in FreeBSD 6.0 ?

2005-12-27 Thread Yuan Jue
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 00:12, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-12-26 11:07, Yuan Jue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  instead, I figure out another way to work around.
 
  1.ifconfig bge0 delete
  % this would shut my local NIC down totally
 
  2.kldload if_ath
 dhclient ath0
 
  then I can enjoy the wireless internet surfing :)
 
  antway, thank you again!

 FWIW,

 On my laptop, which has to switch between a couple of wireless networks and
 my local LAN at home, I use custom shell scripts called ``/root/net/*.sh''
 to encapsulate the changes I'd have to manually make.

 I have prepared working sets of files, like:

 /etc/resolv.conf_home
 /etc/resolv.conf_work

 and then run /root/net/home.sh which contains:

 #!/bin/sh

 if test -n $1  test -f /root/netstart-home-$1.sh ; then
 mode=$1
 else
 mode=wlan
 fi

 echo ## Stopping local services
 /etc/rc.d/named stop
 /etc/rc.d/sendmail stop

 echo ## Setting up /etc and /usr/local/etc files
 (
   cd /etc;
   cp resolv.conf_home resolv.conf;
   cp dhclient.conf_home dhclient.conf;
   cp namedb/named.conf_home namedb/named.conf;

   cd /usr/local/etc/postfix;
   cp main.cf_home main.cf;
 )

 echo ## Bringing up the network connection
 /root/net/netstart-home-${mode}.sh

 echo ## Refreshing the firewall rules
 /etc/rc.d/pf reload

 echo ## Starting local services again
 /etc/rc.d/named start
 /etc/rc.d/sendmail start

 The real work is done by netstart-home-wlan.sh or netstart-home-wlan.sh.
 The wlan script is the one that sets up a wireless connection, and
 contains:

 #!/bin/sh

 # Default setup for my bge0 interface.
 export ifconfig_ath0=DHCP ssid 'gker' \
wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey
 '1:0xXX' export defaultrouter=192.168.1.2

 /etc/rc.d/netif stop bge0
 /etc/rc.d/netif stop ath0

 echo -n Waiting for ath0 to associate 
 _timeout=0
 _associated=NO
 while [ $_timeout -lt 30 ]; do
 status=$( ifconfig ath0 21 | grep status: |\
   awk '{print $2}' )
 if [ X${status} = Xassociated ]; then
 _associated=YES
 break
 fi
 echo -n '.'
 sleep 1
 _timeout=$(( $_timeout + 1 ))
 done
 if [ X${_associated} = XYES ]; then
 echo  ok
 else
 echo ''
 echo Failed to bring up ath0.  Aborting.
 /etc/rc.d/netif stop ath0
 exit 1
 fi

 #
 # The default route may be pointing to another interface.  Find out
 # the IP address of the default gateway, delete it and point to the
 # default gateway of my home network.
 #
 if [ -n ${defaultrouter} ]; then
 _oldrouter=`netstat -rn | grep default | awk '{print $2}'`
 if [ -n ${_oldrouter} ]; then
 route delete default ${_oldrouter}
 unset _oldrouter
 fi
 route add default $defaultrouter
 fi

 This seems to work remarkably well so far.  All I need to do once the
 laptop boots is to log in as root and run the proper /root/net/*.sh script
 :)

thanks for your shell scripts. it is very appreciated. 
thanks again :)

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Re: IPv6: routing on the local LAN

2005-12-27 Thread Dan Langille
On 25 Dec 2005 at 2:59, Ariff Abdullah wrote:

 On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:37:56 -0500
 Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gidday folks,
  
  I have an IPv6 routing problem within my LAN behind the gateway.
  
  I have an IPv6 tunnel supplied by Hurricane Electric.  The tunnel is
  
  setup and working.  From my gateway I can access various IPv6 
  websites (e.g http://www.kame.net).  I have enabled rtadvd(8) on my 
  gateway.  For the netstat, ifconfig, etc, see [1].
  
  From a computer inside my gateway, I cannot ping anything, not even
  
  the gateway.  I suspect it's because the routing tables are not
  being  set up on the gateway.  I expected the system to do that 
  automatically.  I also expected fxp0 to get an IPv6 address out of 
  this.  Did I guess wrong?  I suspect that if I can get fxp0 on the 
  gateway, all will be well.  If not, I think Ineed to set up static 
  routes.
 
 Add a single 2001:470:1F00:1979::/64 address each for both fxp0/1. You
 don't even need rtadv.conf :)
 
 rc.conf:-
 ipv6_ifconfig_fxp0=2001:470:1F00:1979::1/64
 ipv6_ifconfig_fxp1=2001:470:1F00:1979::2/64

Right you are!  I just renamed /etc/rtadvd.conf to something else, 
rebooted the gateway, confirmed rtadvd was running, then I rebooted 
the workstation.  It came back with:

$ ifconfig fxp0
fxp0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet 10.55.0.23 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.55.0.255
inet6 fe80::204:acff:fed3:7823%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
inet6 2001:470:1f00:1979:204:acff:fed3:7823 prefixlen 64 
autoconf
ether 00:04:ac:d3:78:23
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
$

You suggested putting an IPv6 address on fxp0 (the NIC on my gateway 
that faces my ISP).  Why?  No IPv6 traffic should meet that NIC.  It 
should all go out the tunnel on gif0.  fxp1 is my LAN, so I can see 
why I need an IPv6 address there.

Thank you.
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Re: Wireless woes: upgrade 5.4 to 6.0, wi0, etc...

2005-12-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-12-27 18:13, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes I have. I also added it to the loader.conf file, the kernel
 configuration file, done a buildkernel etc. but no luck.

 # /boot/loader.conf
 wlan_wep_load=YES

 # /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
 device wlan_wep

I think this is why you're getting the message:

ieee80211_load_module: load the wlan_wep module by hand for now

Try removing it from your kernel config file and loading it through
loader.conf only.

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RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Quoting Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 
 --- Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   
   Does it meet the test I already outlined?
   
   Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a
   remote server,
   with both lines connected.  Time it.
   
   Disconnect 1 line, then repeat the test.  If
   the time to
   download and upload when both DSL lines are
   connected is
   half the time it takes when 1 DSL line is
   connected, then
   your load-balancing.
   
   If not, then you are not - although if it
  makes
   you feel
   like you haven't wasted your money claim your
   per session load balancing then I suppose
  it
   would be
   uncharitable to make you feel bad by pointing
   out that
   this is purely a marketing term with no
   networking
   significance.
   
   Oops.
   
   Ted
  
  
  Ted seems incapable of grasping how things
  work,
  so I don't recommend wasting your time on
  anything he says.
  
  As I stated, you cannot control how traffic
  comes
  into your network, so Ted's little download
  test
  is sure not to work. Traffic is routed to
  whichever ISP has the best route. You can only
  control how traffic goes OUT of your network.
  So
  load-balancing can only increase your upload
  speeds, not your download speeds. If you are
  hosting this is useful. If you have mostly
  download traffic, then its probably not worth
  is.
  
  I don't know if Ted is trying to boondoggle you
  into thinking his view is correct, or he just
  doesn't understand it. I suspect its a bit of
  both.
  
  You should really try the freebsd-isp list, as
  there are at least some people on there that
  have
  a clue. Although even Ted's resume looks good
  on
  paper, so you really can't tell. Incompetence
  is
  widespread.
  
  DT
 
 To sooth the nerves of the OP, the truth about
 this is that it might work and it might not.
 Ted's assertion that all ISPs do ingress address
 filtering is simply wrong. 

I will concede this because of all the ISP's in the world,
chances are that there is at least 1 that is run so
incompetently, connected to a backbone network that is
also unbelievably incompetent, that they are not
filtering.

 Not even close. My
 assumption that none do isn't right either.

Finally you are admitting that antispoofing filtering is
a reality.  I am glad to see that.

However, you are wrong when you IMPLY that antispoofing
access lists are not widespread.

Anti spoof lists have a long history.  Why even as far back
as 1997 Cisco was unofficially offering to assist ISP's to
put them in, this was in response to land.c, see here:

http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists/apnic-talk/archive/1997/11/msg2.html

Then in 2000, the IETF decided to codify the requirements for
this in the following RFC's:

ftp://ftp.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2827.txt

ftp://ftp.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3013.txt

We also saw then a pledge from the 9 founders of the Internet Security
Alliance (http://www.isalliance.org/) to institute antispoofing
on their networks, that article is here:

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-518743.html

We also saw calls for this from SANS:

http://www.sans.org/dosstep/index.php

and that gadfly, Steve Gibson:

http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm

This was 5 years ago.  Today, the practice is firmly established,
Cisco provides instructions for it:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_white_paper09186a00801a
1a55.shtml

and the US Department of Homeland Security has recommended it:

http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/NIAC_HardeningInternetPaper_Jan05.pdf

and yes, these are the same people that have installed the black
boxes that the NSA has used to electronically eavesdrop on the
Internet without a search warrant, as was just reported a week or
so ago in the NYT, and caused Congress to kill the extension of the
Patriot Act.  So don't think that those large networks aren't listening
to the Feds - by contrast they are actively helping the Feds to spy on
us!!!   To assert as Danial is doing that they aren't following the
Feds when the Feds tell them to anti-spoof is absurd.

 IF
 when one of your lines goes down you are still
 online then you can load-balance outbound. IF you
 are multi-homed or have a working backup
 scenario, then you can load balance outbound.


I am afraid though that none of that is useful to the
OP who wanted to know if he could shoestring load
balance to 2 different ISP's for an Internet Cafe.
Unless I am quite mistaken, Internet Cafe's are mainly
inbound bandwidth consumers.
 
 There is much discussion on the trade-offs of
 ingress address filtering, and many believe its
 the old cut off your nose to spite your face.

There WAS much discussion about 5 years ago when
the Land worm hit, as I recall.  There is very little
today.  Anyone authoratative strongly recommends it,
and I know that some neworks are even now requiring
ISP customers to do it.  MANY isp's (such as the one
I work for) automatically 

Re: Load Balancing: How Busy are the servers?

2005-12-27 Thread Chuck Swiger

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
1. What variables on a server should be monitored to determine how busy 
a server is?  For instance, I've always been taugth that 'loadavg' is 
not an indication of how busy a server is, since a high loadavg on a 
single CPU server might be an overloaded server, but moderately loaded 
on a dual CPU server ...


If the load average is greater than the number of CPU's, it's likely that adding 
another CPU would improve throughput.  If the load average is more than twice 
the # of CPU's it's extremely likeing that adding more CPUs would improve 
throughput.



disk i/o, cpu usage, ethernet throughput ... what else?


The primary resources are CPU, memory, and I/O.  If you measure the ones you've 
listed and pay attention to the VM stats, you should have a starting point. 
Don't forget to pay attention to running out of disk space, SysV shmem 
semaphores, and anything else which is being used by the tasks being run.


2. Are there any tools that I can run to give me a point in time 
summary of how busy a server is based on these several factors?


vmstat 5 and iostat 5 come pretty close, but you have to calibrate some of 
the I/O measurements it returns against the maximum throughput possible for each 
specific system.


Basically, I'd like to keep track of multiple servers and be able to say 
this server is running 75% of capacity, time to upgrade or move things 
off of it ... if its possible ... ?


Take a look at Big Brother, www.bb4.org?, it will at least give warnings for 
high load average, disk space, and so forth.


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Re: ker.ipc.maxpipekva error again and again

2005-12-27 Thread Chuck Swiger

Imran Imtiaz wrote:

I am getting the following messages again and again, why it is accuring and how 
can I correct and track it?
Dec 27 00:48:00 darkstar kernel: kern.ipc.maxpipekva exceeded; see tuning(7)


You might look at ps or top for lots of stuck processes generated by something 
which are blocking.  Basicly, the system has a limit on how much memory can be 
used to connect stages of pipelines between processes.


Take a look at sysctl kern.ipc, or more specificly:

sysctl kern.ipc | grep kva

--
-Chuck

PS: man tuning is likely to be informative.  :-)
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Re: ker.ipc.maxpipekva error again and again

2005-12-27 Thread Chuck Swiger

Imran Imtiaz wrote:
actually i am running some graph generating scripts this is because of 
them but it doesn't happened all the time so how can i correct it ?


Adjust or serialize your scripts, or recompile the kernel with more KVA 
allocated to pipes.  See the Handbook about rebuilding the kernel, and man tuning.


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Sendmail X port

2005-12-27 Thread Brett Glass
I don't see Sendmail X available as a port or package. I'm interested in trying
this version because it's the first to eliminate the horribly cryptic system of
m4 macros, classes, and address parsing rules that configured earlier 
versions.
Is there a reason why it's not available as a package or port for FreeBSD?

--Brett Glass
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RE: backups spanning tapes help

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi Brent,

  The BSD tar that is in FreeBSD cannot span tapes, you have to
use gtar.  (GNU tar)  the old original tar in FreeBSD was gtar,
then they renamed tar to gtar, and added in a BSD tar (that
is unencumbered code)

  man gtar should tell all you need.

  Also a note on your 8MM, 14gb compression is a salesman's
fantasy.  I think they use test files that must contain 100,000
binary 1's to get those numbers.  Your more realistic to expect
about 10GB with the tape hardware compression or even 9GB.

  Also, files like mp3's and jpgs are already compressed so
you gain nothing with hardware compression on those.

Ted

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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 5:05 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: backups spanning tapes help


We use a freebsd box that has a old 8mm library drive attached 
that we use for
backups..my question is these tapes hold 7gigs native or 14 gig 
compressed
..One i cant seem to get compression going so i was wondering 
how do you span
tapes using tar ? Unless theres another way to do this 

thank you for your help  Merry Christmas

--
Brent Bailey CCNA
Bmyster LLC


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pkg_delete question

2005-12-27 Thread Yuan Jue
hello, all

I wanna delete a package that I don't want now. I know that when I use 
portinstall -R xxx to install it, many dependencies have been installed too.
Now I wanna delete them all if they are not used by any other packages.

how can I do it? can I pkg_delete -r xxx?

thanks.

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Re: pkg_delete question

2005-12-27 Thread Dmitry Sidorov
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:55 +0800, Yuan Jue wrote:
 hello, all
 
 I wanna delete a package that I don't want now. I know that when I use 
 portinstall -R xxx to install it, many dependencies have been installed too.
 Now I wanna delete them all if they are not used by any other packages.
 
 how can I do it? can I pkg_delete -r xxx?
 
 thanks.
 
yes you can,
ls -al /var/db/pkg
find your package name, and execute:
pkg_delete -r package_name

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Re: pkg_delete question

2005-12-27 Thread Yuan Jue
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 14:00, Dmitry Sidorov wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:55 +0800, Yuan Jue wrote:
  hello, all
 
  I wanna delete a package that I don't want now. I know that when I use
  portinstall -R xxx to install it, many dependencies have been installed
  too. Now I wanna delete them all if they are not used by any other
  packages.
 
  how can I do it? can I pkg_delete -r xxx?
 
  thanks.

 yes you can,
 ls -al /var/db/pkg
 find your package name, and execute:
 pkg_delete -r package_name

thanks for your reply.
but doesn't pkg_delete -r xxx use to delete all packages
that depend on the xxx? what I wanna delete are those packages
that xxx depend on. any ideas?

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Re: pkg_delete question

2005-12-27 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 22:10, Yuan Jue wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 December 2005 14:00, Dmitry Sidorov wrote:
  On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:55 +0800, Yuan Jue wrote:
   hello, all
  
   I wanna delete a package that I don't want now. I know that when I use
   portinstall -R xxx to install it, many dependencies have been installed
   too. Now I wanna delete them all if they are not used by any other
   packages.
  
   how can I do it? can I pkg_delete -r xxx?
  
   thanks.
 
  yes you can,
  ls -al /var/db/pkg
  find your package name, and execute:
  pkg_delete -r package_name

 thanks for your reply.
 but doesn't pkg_delete -r xxx use to delete all packages
 that depend on the xxx? what I wanna delete are those packages
 that xxx depend on. any ideas?

To delete ports that none depend on try:

sysutils/portmanager

portmanager -slid

-Mike
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RE: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Malcolm Kay
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: rod person; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: BSD Question's.



Cadence have a wide range of products some of which 
run on Windows platforms.  But you will be struggling 
to do much with Full Custom on XP.

There are some alternatives offered on FreeBSD -- 
admittedly inferior to the top Cadence products but
also at less than 10% of the licensing costs.

I thought the discussion was about desktop software
not business software; but even so if your business 
is IC design then I would think a good CAD suite was 
pretty essential.


Frankly, Malcolm, I find it far more interesting to learn
about the niche software that runs poorly on Windows and
well on UNIX.  Talking about programs like Acrobat that
everyone uses is a pretty dull and worn out subject.  We
all know Acrobat works better on Windows, ho hum, can we
please move on?  As you so eloquently reminded us here,
not every task done on a computer is done with the top 20
most popular programs in the world.

Ted
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Re: Palm (Zire) and /dev/ucom0 on 6.0

2005-12-27 Thread Igor Robul
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 11:58:00AM -0500, DW wrote:
 I then type:
 # pilot-xfer -p /dev/cuaU0 -b backup
 
 and I get:
 
Listening to port: /dev/cuaU0
   
Please press teh HotSync button now
Works fine for me with Palm TE2. You need press HotSync button and wait
a little.
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Re: Quick Install Question

2005-12-27 Thread Robert Slade
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 19:18, Gerard Seibert wrote:
 On Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:42:54 PM
 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Quick Install Question
 Wrote these words of wisdom:
 
   
  
  Is the WinXP partition in the same computer that is running FreeBSD? Or
  is the NTFS partition a shared directory on a separate WinXP computer?
  (I was not aware that Samba could be used to read NTFS partitions
  residing on a FreeBSD computer.)
  
  The original poster wishes to dual boot WinXP and FreeBSD on the same
  computer.
  
  Andrew Gould
 
 
 * REPLY SEPARATOR *
 On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:
 
 Actually, there are three computers. One is running FreeBSD 5.4 and the
 other two have WinXP Pro installed. I networked all three together. The
 WinXP systems are using the NTFS format. Samba can read and write to
 both of the WinXP machines without any problems.
 
 I really do not know if this is germane to a dual boot system however.
 It probably is not since WinXP would not actually be running when
 FreeBSD was in this type of configuration.
 
 Fat32 is really a poor file system when compared to NTFS. It is too bad
 that he is unable to get a second machine and use FreeBSD on it instead
 of dual booting.
 
 Just my 2¢.

Gerhard,

Just to clear up a point. In your case, Samba is not writing to NTFS. it
is handling the communications between the 2 operating systems using the
SMB protocol. The individual OS' handle to filing system input/outputs. 

The issue with FreeBSD reading and writing to NTFS directly is
different. There is a driver that will allow FreeBSD to read NTFS, but
because of the complexities of NTFS writing to it is dificult and whilst
possible can cause the NTFS partition to become unreadable by XP.

For info the best way of setting up dual booting of FreeBSD and XP is to
use 3 partitions, 1 for XP using NTFS, 1 for FreeBSD and a 3rd Fat32
partition for data transfer.

Rob  

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Re: Desktop Note on FreeBSD?

2005-12-27 Thread Yuan Jue
On Monday 26 December 2005 01:09, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote:
 On Monday 26 December 2005 01:35, Yuan Jue wrote:
  On Monday 26 December 2005 00:15, you wrote:
   On Monday 26 December 2005 00:54, Yuan Jue wrote:
hello, all
   
is there any software that like Rainlender on Windows? I need to make
some notes sometimes, and i think it would be much better if the
notes could be always shown on the desktop to remind me. Kontact is
great, but not at this point :(
  
   Do you perhaps mean something like kde's knotes?
 
  thanks for your reply. knotes does its work, but not that well as
  Rainlender. I mean its look and interface. can knote be transparent?

 Sure, kwin can make any application transparent.  It appears that knotes on
 my system just magically is translucent, probably because it is a dock
 window, but you can set this more specifically for knotes by setting
 window specific settings for the window class knotes.  Hope this helps,

I have found some theme in superkaramba which exactly fulfill my demand.
it is KaOrganizer. thank you all!


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Re: New IDE drive in old PC

2005-12-27 Thread Robert Slade
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:12, Robert Ames wrote:
 I have an old (very old) ASUS P5 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.4.
 The boot disk is a 40MB Western Digital WD400 IDE drive jumpered to
 only use 32MB so it can be booted from since the BIOS in this PC
 (the latest and greatest) can't deal with anything larger than 32MB.
 This PC is working well for me and I don't want to upgrade it.
 However I would like to add a lot of disk space.  So my question
 is, can I go out and buy a new 300 GB (or whatever) IDE disk and
 attach it to the secondary IDE controller and hope to use all 300
 GB?  I will still use the old disk for booting and to hold the OS.
 The new disk will be just for data.  If this will just work how do
 I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed?

Robert,

If you had to jumper the boot disk for it to work with the BIOS of the
motherboard, then the chances are that you would have to do the same
with the 2nd hard drive.

ISTR that ASUS produced updated BIOS' for most of their motherboards to
get around this. Have a look at their website to see if there is and
upgrade. There is also a area on the site for questions such as yours.

Rob

 

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ftp nologin problem

2005-12-27 Thread Imran Imtiaz
I am running ProFTPD 1.2.10 on my bsd server but the problem is that if a user 
don't have a shell and I've defined his shell as nologin then the ftp server 
does not logon and give the following error
C:\Documents and Settings\Asifftp 192.168.0.3
Connected to 192.168.0.3.
220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (ProFTPD Default Installation) [192.168.0.3]
User (192.168.0.3:(none)): db.backup
331 Password required for db.backup.
Password:
530 Login incorrect.
Login failed.
ftp

tell me how can I correct this problem cause I don't want to give user a shell.
Regards,
Imran Imtiaz

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Re: pkg_delete question

2005-12-27 Thread Yuan Jue
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 14:21, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
 On Tuesday 27 December 2005 22:10, Yuan Jue wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 December 2005 14:00, Dmitry Sidorov wrote:
   On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:55 +0800, Yuan Jue wrote:
hello, all
   
I wanna delete a package that I don't want now. I know that when I
use portinstall -R xxx to install it, many dependencies have been
installed too. Now I wanna delete them all if they are not used by
any other packages.
   
how can I do it? can I pkg_delete -r xxx?
   
thanks.
  
   yes you can,
   ls -al /var/db/pkg
   find your package name, and execute:
   pkg_delete -r package_name
 
  thanks for your reply.
  but doesn't pkg_delete -r xxx use to delete all packages
  that depend on the xxx? what I wanna delete are those packages
  that xxx depend on. any ideas?

 To delete ports that none depend on try:

 sysutils/portmanager

 portmanager -slid

thanks. it works very well :)

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Best Regards.
Yuan Jue
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ipwcontrol load firmware on boot

2005-12-27 Thread Beastie

Dear lists;

I tried to do network auto configuration by DHCP with integrated Intel
Pro Wireless 2100 wlan device (ipw2100).
I have trouble when load firmware with ipwcontrol on boot.
Initialitation script (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ipw.sh) always execute after
network init (specify in rc.conf).
Is there any way to make ipwcontrol -i ipw0 -f
/usr/local/share/ipw-firmware/ipw.fw command execute before network
init. ?
Please help.

regards
reza




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