Re: Multiple issues (FreeBSD 6.2 RELEASE)
On 01/06/07, Lucas (a.k.a T-Bird or bsdfan3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hardware: Compaq Presario 1200-XL118 AMD K6-2 500MHz 64MB of RAM Trident CyberBlade i7 video with 4MB shared RAM 6GB ATA66 HD Linksys 10/100 PCCard Ethernet (using ed driver) OS: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE using GENERIC kernel Issues: 1) The machine will not turn off when I try to soft-off it (ACPI S5 state, shutdown -r or -p). How do I fix this? In my experience most of the stuff built around the AMD k6 junk (circa 1998) had horrible ACPI support, nonstandard and incomplete, where possible. I have a lurking suspicion that they advertised these things as only working correctly under winders (Optimised for Windows 98! Now with nearly intel compliant MMX!). A bios upgrade _might_ solve it. A lot of those older machines (supposedly) support apm, so fiddling with apm(8) might give some answers. You might have to load the module or uncomment the device apm line and recompile your kernel. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wine on freebsd ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to get wine to run an application under FreeBSD that I've been told works great using wine under Linux ... the more I'm trying to dig into this, the more stuck in mud I'm feeling ... the latest release of wine won't even run on FreeBSD without crashing ... According to the Wine folks, its a problem in FreeBSD ... the problem is that I don't know enough about it to know if that's just a cop-out, or is Wine really too linux-y to run under FreeBSD? One of the bug reports on their web site: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5732 talks about: This problem is caused by FreeBSD itself: - - 2/2 GB memory split - - Use of lover addresses for system libraries. Neither of this is fixable in Wine. Wine tries to reserve most of the lover 2GB with wine-preloader. But that doesn't work if glibc friends are already there. I've tried to run this application with wine on both 6-STABLE and 7-CURRENT, and both seem to have the same issue, so it doesn't appear to be something with just 6.x ... I'm just not sure how to attack this one, when the app developer themselves are saying its an OS issue ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFGYRSz4QvfyHIvDvMRAldhAJwMoRS2uAAJ5Q6wjkFYXPjZH0SdBQCY7NAk WvqAYGU97ZM356EzBGeBCw== =YVew -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how many data can i write to my tape, how to tested?
On 28/05/07, perikillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running bacula 1.38.11 with one tape storage-works 232 200Gb. . . . Them, he says that my tape is full, but calculating all clients, is about 181GB, them why hi say that my tape is full? For raw capacity multiply the advertised number by 0.5. As we get more and more precompressed data (think ogg, png, mp3) those sunny marketing numbers will mean less and less. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linksys WMP54G Version 4.1
that would be great , I would appreciate it! Just attach it and send it to me at this address! Thanks, Christopher On 6/2/07, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:32:41PM +0200, Christopher Prance wrote: Hey appreciate the info and would love to get mine up and running, but the version of the if_ral_pci.c that I have is 1.2.x.x something. I'm running 6.2 p4. Which cvs tag did you use to get the 1.5 version of the ral driver... It was a patch that I downloaded. I don't recall where exactly. Since I've still got the patch I can send it to you if you like. It's about 460k, so I won't post it on the list. :) Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- No one needs a smile as much as a person who fails to give one. - unknown ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine on freebsd ...
Hello Marc, Saturday, June 2, 2007, 9:56:51 AM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to get wine to run an application under FreeBSD that I've been told works great using wine under Linux ... the more I'm trying to dig into this, the more stuck in mud I'm feeling ... the latest release of wine won't even run on FreeBSD without crashing ... According to the Wine folks, its a problem in FreeBSD ... the problem is that I don't know enough about it to know if that's just a cop-out, or is Wine really too linux-y to run under FreeBSD? One of the bug reports on their web site: snip Strange, there are occasionally applications that i can't run, but otherwise i had no problems with WINE on FreeBSD... Care to post the WINE log (when you start the app from the console 'wine PE.exe')? -- Best regards, Ghirai. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: enable fetchmail system-wide mode
Hello Gerard, I had to slightly modify it to work the way I wanted on my system. I would suggest that you do that 'AFTER' you have gotten it to relatively the way you want it to. Are these changes useful for other users, too? If so, please send me a diff, so I can modify the port. -- Best regards / Viele Grüße, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simon Barner[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpwxDUtaN1mw.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Recommendations for config file revision control
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maxim Khitrov Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2007 8:37 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for config file revision control On 6/1/07, Reid Linnemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Written by Maxim Khitrov on 06/01/07 14:27 Hi everyone, I'm currently setting up a new server, and I'd like to keep track of all changes made to various config files (in /etc, /usr/local/etc, and a few other places perhaps). My first thought was to setup a subversion server which would contain the partial directory structure that matches that of the server's starting at /. It would contain versioned copies of all the configuration files that I want to keep track of in their appropriate locations. What I would do then is write a hook for subversion that will issue an automatic export command (don't want .svn directories everywhere) every time a commit is made to the repository. So to edit some configuration file I would first checkout a working copy of the repository to some other location, make the change and commit it. The server would be automatically updated with the new file and I would be able to keep track of every change. This seems like a decent strategy to me, but before I go off writing the scripts and setting up the server I wanted to ask what you guys might be using to keep track of the server configuration (backups don't count)? Is there an easier way of doing the same thing, for example, eliminating the need to do a working copy checkout first? Perhaps a way to monitor certain files for changes, and automatically commit them every time a change is saved. I'd be glad to hear any suggestions you might have in this regard. If possible, I'd like all the versioned files to contain an id string, so that it's easy to determine when the file was last changed and by whom, but this is optional. For the most part I just need a way of going back to previous versions. Thanks, Maxim Khitrov You might consider avoiding the excess labor of SVN and use RCS, since you're just tracking changes for individual files in place on one host. man rcsintro to see if this is more suitable for you. Hm... I think that while SVN would require more work initially, RCS would probably be more maintenance. The main problem I see is the requirement to execute commands on the server after each modification. This may not be always possible. With SVN I have a local copy of all the files, so as long as I'm able to commit I don't need to actually be logged in to the server. See my ideal solution would be to open a file via sftp, for example, make the change and upload it. The change is detected, the Id string is updated, and the old revision is saved. SVN is one step away from that because I need to checkout a working copy first. Also, I couldn't do all this directly on the server by just opening vi and editing the file. This solution, however, would require some sort of monitoring. I'm even considering writing a simple C app that would use gamin to track when versioned files have changed, but I don't know how well the whole thing will work. With too many files I'm afraid that this monitoring would put too much unnecessary load on the server. An alternative is to keep the server configuration files just as they are, but checkout a working copy of the repository on the server. Then a cron script could compare the two directory trees, checking contents of the files. If one changes, update the other one. Again... seems like too much work for something that should be rather simple in my opinion. I'll look a bit more into RCS, but it doesn't look like it offers anything major over subversion. Any other ideas? Some people use the expect TCL-based system to do 'a sequence of tasks as though I was in front of th console' This may help if RCS is a way to go. I believe (but am willing to be corrected) the you could launch an expect task, have it do the boring bits that you did once to teach it, pause for you to do the interesting bit, then do the boring wrapup. It may be another way to do your remote management. mjt --- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail
netstat -i output
i'm confused by the output from netstat -i: NameMtu Network AddressIpkts Ierrs Ibytes Opkts Oerrs Obytes Coll bge0 1500 Link#1 00:30:48:5e:56:8a 7.4M 1.2K 4.9G 2.9M 0 2.6G0 bge0 1500 65.39.221/24 www1 2.9M - 414M 3.0M - 2.5G- it lists the same interface twice. what is the difference between these two? this is a web server so wny so much more input bytes than output? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendations for config file revision control
Do you have an idea of how to manage symlinks with jailed software? Thierry. On Saturday 02 June 2007 01:35, Maxim Khitrov wrote: On 6/1/07, Kevin Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/1/07, Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I'm currently setting up a new server, and I'd like to keep track of all changes made to various config files (in /etc, /usr/local/etc, and a few other places perhaps). My first thought was to setup a subversion server which would contain the partial directory structure that matches that of the server's starting at /. It would contain versioned copies of all the configuration files that I want to keep track of in their appropriate locations. What I would do then is write a hook for subversion that will issue an automatic export command (don't want .svn directories everywhere) every time a commit is made to the repository. So to edit some configuration file I would first checkout a working copy of the repository to some other location, make the change and commit it. The server would be automatically updated with the new file and I would be able to keep track of every change. This seems like a decent strategy to me, but before I go off writing the scripts and setting up the server I wanted to ask what you guys might be using to keep track of the server configuration (backups don't count)? Is there an easier way of doing the same thing, for example, eliminating the need to do a working copy checkout first? Perhaps a way to monitor certain files for changes, and automatically commit them every time a change is saved. I'd be glad to hear any suggestions you might have in this regard. If possible, I'd like all the versioned files to contain an id string, so that it's easy to determine when the file was last changed and by whom, but this is optional. For the most part I just need a way of going back to previous versions. Thanks, Maxim Khitrov What is the objection to having the metadata directories (.svn) everywhere? Well to be honest, I just really don't like that design. I think the metadata should be separated out from the data, and placing .svn directories into each directory of the project seems like a bad idea to me. I understand why it was done this way, but I wish that some extra effort was put in to consolidate all that information into perhaps a single .svn directory in the root of the project. That, and since they keep copies of the original files it also creates additional storage requirements, but for storing configuration files I don't really care. I did just think of another thing I could do. What if I create a new directory on the server, and move all configuration files from their original location to this directory. I then make then make it into an svn working directory, and in place of the original files put symlinks that point to the corresponding file in the working directory. This would mean that I no longer have .svn directories all over the file system, there is just one working directory that is separate from everything else. Instead of an export operation I could have the hook script do an update, and this would also give me a rather simple way of editing the files locally on the server (plus it has the advantage of quick access to all important files without having to constantly move from /etc to /usr/local/etc). Does this seem like a decent idea to try and do? Might some software have a problem with its configuration file being a symlink to some other location? devel/bazaar-ng is rather nice, and distributed vcs is very flexible. Will take a look at this as well, thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendations for config file revision control
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 03:27:57PM -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm currently setting up a new server, and I'd like to keep track of
all changes made to various config files (in /etc, /usr/local/etc, and
a few other places perhaps). My first thought was to setup a
subversion server which would contain the partial directory structure
that matches that of the server's starting at /. It would contain
versioned copies of all the configuration files that I want to keep
track of in their appropriate locations. What I would do then is write
a hook for subversion that will issue an automatic export command
(don't want .svn directories everywhere) every time a commit is made
to the repository. So to edit some configuration file I would first
checkout a working copy of the repository to some other location, make
the change and commit it. The server would be automatically updated
with the new file and I would be able to keep track of every change.
Because I didn't want my config file all over the place, I've put them
in a directory tree called ~/setup, with subdirectories for etc, boot,
kernel configuration etc.
This directory tree is managed with git, because you don't have to check
in every single file like with RCS. So e.g. all the changes that I did
for the Xorg upgrade are captured in a single commit. Since git doesn't
support keyword expansion, and I always use emacs for editing, I use
emacs's time-stamp facility to keep the time and date of the last save.
I use an install script to install the config files where they belong,
and take appropriate post-install action.
One could put the directories like /etc under git's direct control as
well. That would save the installation step, and capture any system-made
modifications with git-status. But you'd have to manage the repository
as root.
- install script for /etc config files --
#!/bin/sh
# Shell script to facilitate installing files.
# Time-stamp: 2007-05-20 21:32:43 rsmith
# Installs a normal file.
I () {
install -b -v -p -m 644 $1 $2 |grep install || {
return 1
}
}
# Files that need to be installed as root go here.
do_root() {
I devfs.conf /etc
I devfs.rules /etc
I fbtab /etc
I fstab /etc
I passwd /etc
I group /etc
I hosts /etc
I login.conf /etc cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf
I csh.cshrc /etc
I cshrc.root /root/.cshrc
I login.access /etc
I locate.rc /etc
I manpath.config /etc
I motd /etc
I periodic.conf /etc
I pkgtools.conf /usr/local/etc
I portmaster.rc /etc
I profile /etc
I rc.conf /etc
I pf.conf /etc /etc/rc.d/pf reload
I ntp.conf /etc /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart
I rc.shutdown.local /etc
I resolv.conf /etc
I sysctl.conf /etc
I ttys /etc
I make.conf /etc
I newsyslog.conf /etc
I mtools.conf /usr/local/etc
I smartd.conf /usr/local/etc
I cdrecord /usr/local/etc
I esd.conf /usr/local/etc
# X11 config files
cd X11
I xorg.conf /etc/X11
cd ..
# SANE config files.
cd sane
I dll.conf /usr/local/etc/sane.d
I epson.conf /usr/local/etc/sane.d
cd ..
# Install root's crontab file
if ! crontab -l|diff - crontab.root /dev/null; then
echo Updating crontab.
crontab -u root crontab.root
fi
}
# Main program
if [ `id -u` -eq 0 ]; then
do_root
fi
- install script for /etc config files --
Roland
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See output of local xterm session on remote ssh session.
Hello, I have been searching Google for a few days for this but have not been coming up with the correct answer. Then again maybe I am asking the wrong question... If I start a process, i.e. compile a kernel, on my desktop, how can I then connect to it from my laptop and see the output of that process via the ssh session? thanks, Jeremy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: See output of local xterm session on remote ssh session.
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 07:23:45AM -0400, Jeremy Gransden wrote: Hello, I have been searching Google for a few days for this but have not been coming up with the correct answer. Then again maybe I am asking the wrong question... If I start a process, i.e. compile a kernel, on my desktop, how can I then connect to it from my laptop and see the output of that process via the ssh session? The easiest way would be to start the process from your ssh session. If you want to keep tabs on an already running process, you should start the process in such a way that it redirects the standard output and standard error streams to a file. How that's done depends on the shell you're using. You can then watch that file via ssh with 'tail -f'. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpZaKFVrPNco.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: See output of local xterm session on remote ssh session.
On 6/2/07, Jeremy Gransden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can I then connect to it from my laptop and see the output of that process via the ssh session? A very popular solution is screen (sysutils/screen). Run a screen session, then you can share the session from any number of clients, or attach/detach at will. Quite good if, for example you're running a process (within a screen session, of course!) in an xterm, and you want to restart X. Simply detach the screen session, restart X, then reattach screen to your xterm. -- Regards, Paul Fraser http://furyc0de.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: See output of local xterm session on remote ssh session.
On Saturday 02 June 2007, Jeremy Gransden wrote: Hello, I have been searching Google for a few days for this but have not been coming up with the correct answer. Then again maybe I am asking the wrong question... If I start a process, i.e. compile a kernel, on my desktop, how can I then connect to it from my laptop and see the output of that process via the ssh session? thanks, Jeremy screen(1) is the tool for this. You can find it in the ports collection (sysutils/screen). For example: $ screen $ cd /usr/src; sudo make buildworld (now press CTRL+A D) On the other machine, ssh into the desktop $ screen -r (press CTRL+A D if you've seen enough) Also, this will protect the running job from accidental (or purposefully) closure of the terminal. HTH, Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: See output of local xterm session on remote ssh session.
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 01:39:08PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: If you want to keep tabs on an already running process, you should start the process in such a way that it redirects the standard output and standard error streams to a file. How that's done depends on the shell you're using. You can then watch that file via ssh with 'tail -f'. 'script' is less intrusive (and allows one to capture _everything_ sent to the terminal - ymmv) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpkKIN4lZWjq.pgp Description: PGP signature
downgrading from php5 to php4
Hello, I am looking for advice how to best downgrade to php4. Is it ok to use make uninstall for php5 and php5-extensions followed by make install for php4? Is there anything I should consider before downgrading (apart from usual consideration whether some related software will work)? Thank you! Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: See output of local xterm session on remote ssh session.
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:44:58PM +1000, Paul Fraser wrote: On 6/2/07, Jeremy Gransden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can I then connect to it from my laptop and see the output of that process via the ssh session? A very popular solution is screen (sysutils/screen). Run a screen session, then you can share the session from any number of clients, or attach/detach at will. Quite good if, for example you're running a process (within a screen session, of course!) in an xterm, and you want to restart X. Simply detach the screen session, restart X, then reattach screen to your xterm. But if you already have started the process that you wish to monitor and did not have the foresight to start it in some special manner then neither sysutils/screen, script(1) or redirecting the output to a file will help. Using watch(8) can help though. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin problem after xorg 7.2 upgrade
Ozan Enginoglu wrote: After i upgrated to xorg 7.2 i had firefox core-dump problem. It used to crast when i enter a site with a lot of flash plugin. And it uses a lot of CPU power! I removed flash plugin libs from /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins and plugins directory of firefox. Now i can surf without any core-dump error. when i try to reinstall flashplugin, firefox cant succedd to run them. What should i do? Any suggestions? I had a similar problem and it turned out to be a X color depth setting issue. YMMV but it should be quick to check. When I get onto my laptop I'll follow up with the color depth that cured the problem for me. -- Chris -- __o All I was doing was trying to get home from work. _`\,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___ Christopher Sean Hiltonchris | at | vindaloo.com pgp key: D0957A2D/f5 30 0a e1 55 76 9b 1f 47 0b 07 e9 75 0e 14 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10/100/1000 Ethernet hardware recommendation
intel desktop GigE (32 bits) around 380M intel server GigE (64 bits) around 800M - 900M I have used it for core router for 2 years. they are so good Christopher Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm about to build a Gigabit backend network for a few machines. This network will provide file and database services to a dedicated set of web application servers. My experience with Gigabit Ethernet leads me to like the Intel Pro/1000 cards which I believe use the em(4) driver in FreeBSD. Is this an appropriate NIC for a server or is there something better? Thanks in advance -- Chris -- __o All I was doing was trying to get home from work. _`\,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___ Christopher Sean Hilton pgp key: D0957A2D/f5 30 0a e1 55 76 9b 1f 47 0b 07 e9 75 0e 14 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendations for config file revision control
On 2007-06-02 12:43, Thierry Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have an idea of how to manage symlinks with jailed software? Thierry. [snip long posts quoted in their entirety] Hi Thierry. Please don't top-post. Your reply belong to the bottom of the text you are replying, at least in this list. If you feel that by putting your reply near the bottom of the text will `hide it after all this text', then trim the quoted text to the absolutely necessary bits. Please also note that your question is a bit vague. What do you mean by `manage symlinks'? What sort of `jailed software do you have in mind'? Is the question related to the original `config file revision control' topic of this thread? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin problem after xorg 7.2 upgrade
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 02:00 +0300, Ozan Enginoglu wrote: After i upgrated to xorg 7.2 i had firefox core-dump problem. It used to crast when i enter a site with a lot of flash plugin. And it uses a lot of CPU power! I removed flash plugin libs from /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins and plugins directory of firefox. Now i can surf without any core-dump error. when i try to reinstall flashplugin, firefox cant succedd to run them. What should i do? Any suggestions? Here's the screen section from my xorg.conf: Section Screen Identifier Laptop_Panel Device ATI Radeon Mobility MonitorHP nc6230 LCD display DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1400x1050 EndSubSection EndSection The DefaultDepth 24 is the line that fixed things for me. I think that DefaultDepth 32 may also work. -- Chris -- __o All I was doing was trying to get home from work. _`\,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___ Christopher Sean Hiltonchris | at | vindaloo.com pgp key: D0957A2D/f5 30 0a e1 55 76 9b 1f 47 0b 07 e9 75 0e 14 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Flashplugin problem after xorg 7.2 upgrade
thank you for your instructions!! this helps a lot, now I can also enjoy youtube and watch mlb.tv on firefox with mplayer plugin. I also have coredump when running nspluginwrapper, and while running firefox, this is what I got on the output: *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() regards, TFC On 6/2/07, Nikola Lecic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 04:35:33 +0200 Nikola Lecic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 04:13:59 +0300 Ozan Enginoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] And is there any way to play flash files without using nspluginwrapper? Only in linux versions (linux-opera, linux-firefox...). There is no way to use linux flashplugin in native browsers without a wrapper. Actually, yes, depends on what you need. You can use graphics/libflash with www/flashplugin-mozilla (supports flash files up to version 4) and graphics/gnash (GNU flash player, which is not actually a plugin; AFAIK still can't handle YouTube, but it will in the near future). At this moment, if you want to cover the most demanding flash sites, you have no choice but to use linux-flashplugin (with a wrapper), as described in the mail I've just sent. Nikola Lečić ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendations for config file revision control
I did just think of another thing I could do. What if I create a new directory on the server, and move all configuration files from their original location to this directory. I then make then make it into an svn working directory, and in place of the original files put symlinks that point to the corresponding file in the working directory. This would mean that I no longer have .svn directories all over the file system, there is just one working directory that is separate from everything else. Instead of an export operation I could have the hook script do an update, and this would also give me a rather simple way of editing the files locally on the server (plus it has the advantage of quick access to all important files without having to constantly move from /etc to /usr/local/etc). Does this seem like a decent idea to try and do? Might some software have a problem with its configuration file being a symlink to some other location? Sorry for my previous top-posting. Will a chrooted named work if you make files in /var/named/etc/namedb/ symlinks to the working directory ? Regards, Thierry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid and IPFW
I would like to setup a gw / firewall (IPFW) which will also run Squid, in order to restrict access to certain websites or to allow certain workstations to have full access to the internet. How can I redirect all traffic going to port 80 on the gw, to port 3128 on Squid Are you really sure you want to do that way? Squid wont be able to control access to https or ftp. And what about http on non-standard ports, e.g. http://easynews.com:81 The people that are smart enough to get around this kind of a block in an organization are generally not the problem. It is the morons that have no concept of appropriate use of the Internet in the workplace who are the problems, and they will be effectively stopped. I agree with Ted here. It's the innapropriate web surfers who are the main problem, however, traffic filters will catch people using odd ports, and firewall rules are there to fix this. I use much the same setup for my 8 year old son. He only gets Internet access to websites that we have approved and added to the squid list. May I make a recommendation for DansGuardian for home users. I have used it for a few years now, and instead of maintaining just a single list of allowed sites, it does a fantastic job of filtering the actual content, images, url's and a bunch of other things. Of course physical observance is the best approach, but the Squid/Dansguardian approach works exceptionally well when you have to walk away. (I have 4 kids ranging from 5 to 13). Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to disable command prompt history?
Hello there Could someone would like to describe that how we can disable to show last executed commands by pressing Up Arrow? -- Thanks! BR / vj ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Flashplugin problem after xorg 7.2 upgrade
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:11:25 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you for your instructions!! this helps a lot, now I can also enjoy youtube and watch mlb.tv on firefox with mplayer plugin. Glad it was useful. I also have coredump when running nspluginwrapper, and while running firefox, this is what I got on the output: Is the output the same as Ozan's? But if your ~/.mozilla/plugins is populated with something like npwrapper.libflashplayer.so npwrapper.nppdf.so npwrapper.nphelix.so (55880 bytes each), I think you shouldn't worry about it. Maybe someone else can confirm. I hadn't experienced such core dumps. *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() This is harmless and not linked with the core dumping -- it's a known warning in this nspluginwrapper version. Nikola Lečić ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
About /bin/csh
Hi folks, i noticed that the root's default shell, /bin/csh is not statically linked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ldd /bin/csh /bin/csh: libncurses.so.6 = /lib/libncurses.so.6 (0x280bd000) libcrypt.so.3 = /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x280fc000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28114000) What might happen if something goes wrong with ncurses, crypt and c libs ? Might I login into my system ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About /bin/csh
Sereno Ternullo escribió: Hi folks, i noticed that the root's default shell, /bin/csh is not statically linked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ldd /bin/csh /bin/csh: libncurses.so.6 = /lib/libncurses.so.6 (0x280bd000) libcrypt.so.3 = /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x280fc000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28114000) What might happen if something goes wrong with ncurses, crypt and c libs ? Might I login into my system ? Hello Sereno, If such accidents happen, you can boot into single user mode, where you will be prompted to specify the shell. Here, you can use the static versions, located in /rescue: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ file /rescue/sh /rescue/sh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ file /rescue/csh /rescue/csh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ file /rescue/tcsh /rescue/tcsh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped Cheers, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .:|:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10/100/1000 Ethernet hardware recommendation
At 01:16 AM 6/2/2007, Christopher Hilton wrote: .My experience with Gigabit Ethernet leads me to like the Intel Pro/1000 cards which I believe use the em(4) driver in FreeBSD. Go for it! I just upgraded several servers and desktops with Intel 1000 series NICs, and they're working great. Intel actively develops and supports the drivers for FreeBSD; nice vendor commitment. You can also find the boards inexpensively on EBay. -RW ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10/100/1000 Ethernet hardware recommendation
chloe K wrote: intel desktop GigE (32 bits) around 380M intel server GigE (64 bits) around 800M - 900M While this may seem obvious I'm gonna ask it anyway. I'm being pedantic here and assuming: The performance numbers are best case MBytes per second; That the 64bit card is in a 64bit slot; That the 64bit card in a 32bit slot would give similar performance to the 32 bit card. A little information about my situation is probably in order. I have a DMZ with FreeBSD box acting as a NAS (samba/dav/nfs fileshare); a postgresql database server; a mysql database server; and an apache webserver; and a postfix mail server. All of these machines are older Pentium III 1GHz single or dual CPU class machines. It's more than enough performance for the bulk of my clients which are bottlenecked by their connection over the internet. I'd like to go to Gig E to improve performance for a hand full of clients on the local LAN and to move critical data out of the DMZ. Eventually I plan to replace the current generation of servers with something more modern like HP DL360 G5 and DL380 G5 hardware. Based on that, if my assumptions are correct then the 64bit Intel Hardware seems to be the way to go. -- Chris -- __o All I was doing was trying to get home from work. _`\,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___ Christopher Sean Hiltonchris | at | vindaloo.com pgp key: D0957A2D/f5 30 0a e1 55 76 9b 1f 47 0b 07 e9 75 0e 14 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10/100/1000 Ethernet hardware recommendation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:16 AM 6/2/2007, Christopher Hilton wrote: .My experience with Gigabit Ethernet leads me to like the Intel Pro/1000 cards which I believe use the em(4) driver in FreeBSD. Go for it! I just upgraded several servers and desktops with Intel 1000 series NICs, and they're working great. Intel actively develops and supports the drivers for FreeBSD; nice vendor commitment. You can also find the boards inexpensively on EBay. I'll be looking. Thanks -- Chris -- __o All I was doing was trying to get home from work. _`\,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___ Christopher Sean Hiltonchris | at | vindaloo.com pgp key: D0957A2D/f5 30 0a e1 55 76 9b 1f 47 0b 07 e9 75 0e 14 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to disable command prompt history?
VeeJay wrote: Hello there Could someone would like to describe that how we can disable to show last executed commands by pressing Up Arrow? That would depend on which shell you are running. Can you run the following command and post the results here? echo $SHELL -- Chris -- __o All I was doing was trying to get home from work. _`\,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___ Christopher Sean Hiltonchris | at | vindaloo.com pgp key: D0957A2D/f5 30 0a e1 55 76 9b 1f 47 0b 07 e9 75 0e 14 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD on Apple Mac Mini?
Does FreeBSD run well on the Mac Mini (x86)? I'm considering getting one to use for both MacOS and FreeBSD (booting from an external disk, if that's reasonable). -- Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About /bin/csh
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:43:23 +0200 Sereno Ternullo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, i noticed that the root's default shell, /bin/csh is not statically linked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ldd /bin/csh /bin/csh: libncurses.so.6 = /lib/libncurses.so.6 (0x280bd000) libcrypt.so.3 = /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x280fc000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28114000) What might happen if something goes wrong with ncurses, crypt and c libs ? Might I login into my system ? They're all installed, like /bin/csh, as part of the base system, and in a normal install they are all on the root partition. I don't see why there is any particular risk here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
any experiences noteworthy with Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 motherboard components?
Hello all, I searched the archives for GA-965P-S3 and other permutations looking for information about the components that come on this Gigabyte motherboard. I didn't find much except stuff related to -current. Can people relate any experiences using this motherboard under -stable or -current? It appears from my reading that in -current the audio will be supported through snd_hda, correct (ICH8 + Realtek ALC883)? Does it work well? What about the Marvell 8056 ethernet? I couldn't find much information about that one though--does the msk happen to support this one too (though the man page doesn't specifically say so)? What about any PATA/SATA problems / issues / successes? Any success (or failurea) stories with the components on this motherboard (whether it be in -current or -stable) would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! -Jr -- John Jennifer Reynolds johnjen at reynoldsnet.orgwww.reynoldsnet.org Structural/Physical Design - some group - Intel jreynold at sedona.ch.intel.com Running FreeBSD since 2.1.5-RELEASE. KT7JCRFreeBSD: The Power to Serve! Unix is user friendly, it's just particular about the friends it chooses. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem installing xorg 7.2
Hi Because I wanted to upgrade my xorg package to 7.2, I read /usr/ports/UPDATING. but the description is only for portupgrade, and I dont use it because it works bad on my system, I use portmanager insteed. I couldnt upgrade xorg with portmanager so I just deinstalled it, and make install again. Thats the message that throws make install: configure: error: cannot find GL library - make sure Mesa or other OpenGL packag e is installed See `config.log' for more details. === Script configure failed unexpectedly. But when I cd ed to /usr/ports/graphics/mesagl make install, it throws another message: === Mesa-5.0.2 is unnecessary because libGL and libGLU come with XFree86 4.0 a nd higher. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/mesagl. So what should I do?? Is there any way of installing xorg 7.2 just with make install ?? Thanks for any help. -- http://feudaltimes.com.ar - Webmaster, designer and programmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to disable command prompt history?
On 6/2/07, Christopher Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VeeJay wrote: Hello there Could someone would like to describe that how we can disable to show last executed commands by pressing Up Arrow? That would depend on which shell you are running. Can you run the following command and post the results here? echo $SHELL By default most of the shells like bash, zsh, ksh have history option. But you can avoid writing the history of the current session to the history file by unsetting the HISTFILE environment variable. So next time when you login the history of the previous session will not be shown. sac. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to disable command prompt history?
At 1:56p -0400 on 02 Jun 2007, sac wrote: On 6/2/07, Christopher Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VeeJay wrote: Could someone would like to describe that how we can disable to show last executed commands by pressing Up Arrow? That would depend on which shell you are running. Can you run the following command and post the results here? echo $SHELL By default most of the shells like bash, zsh, ksh have history option. But you can avoid writing the history of the current session to the history file by unsetting the HISTFILE environment variable. So next time when you login the history of the previous session will not be shown. I'd be curious as to the underlying why?. Having a history of what you've done is generally a Good Thing. The only reason that I personally have ever come across to necessitate not storing my actions is when I'm playing a prank on one of my friends. Other than that, having the ability to go see what commands I was executing three years ago comes in awful handy. I /could/ recreate that arcane command sequence for that one-off job I needed 1,237 days ago, or I could do a history | grep 'substring I remember in command' | less And, if you're worried about the space it takes to store the history, don't. It's extremely negligible. Kevin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X11 console setup
Hello list, I have 3 monitors and 3 video cards. However, one videocard and monitor isn't very X11 friendly. (X11 barely starts on it). I was wondering if it would be possible to have X11 running on two of the monitors, and then have a full screen console (like a ttyv0) on the third monitor (so I could constantly leave top or something sweet running on there :D). This is all with FreeBSD 6.2/i386 and Xorg 6.9 or 7.2. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Jim Capozzoli D6499626857801B6065013E3645A6B75 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GRUB / boot easy problems w / USB stick
I am looking for some help to enable booting from a USB stick. After weeks of reading, and attempting I am at a total loss. This all began while I was trying to follow the many excellent tutorials on encrypting whole laptop disks with GELI[1]. These tutorials were great except they didn't really cover how to make the sticks bootable. Here is some of the many things I have tried. Background: My laptop BIOS allows me to pick the boot order from 7 devices, I set them as follows: (1) USB Key (2) USB HDD (3) USB CDROM (4) USB FDC (5) IDE CD (6) IDE HDD (7) PCI BEV Attempt 1: FreeBSD Boot Manager # created a dedicated slice on my 512MB stick with a #UFS2 filesystem. (after fdisk) bsdlabel -Brw /dev/da0s1 newfs /dev/da0s1 # Copied over boot files to usb filesystem. mount /dev/da0s1 /usb mkdir /usb/boot cd /boot cp -Rpv * /usb/boot # Placed FreeBSD boot manager on MBR of USB stick. boot0cfg -B -s 1 -t -v 182 /dev/da0 Problem: When I reboot the laptop keyboard won't allow me to select a partition with the F keys. Attempt 2: GRUB # make install grub from the ports collection. copy #over the files from #/usr/local/share/grub/i386-freebsd/* to /boot/grub. #My understanding was that Grub can read write UFS2 #because of patches since version 0.94. So on my first #attempt I made a single UFS2 partition. mount /dev/da0s1 /usb mkdir -p /usb/boot/grub cd /boot cp -Rpv * /usb/boot cd /boot/grub cp -Rpv * /usb/boot/grub #I invoke the grub shell. There are two devices in my #device map: (hd0) /dev/ad0 (hd1) /dev/da0 # Now if I try to set root in the following ways I'll #get the following: grub root (hd0,0,a) Filesystem type is ufs2, partition type 0xa5 grub root (hd1,0) Filesystem type is unknown, partition type 0xa5 # now before you say it, I also tried (hd1,0,a) but #this is even worse in some situations. Basically I #can't get grub to read or write to the USB stick with #a UFS2 filesystem. Yet it will read write to the #UFS2 filesystem of the native disk. Does anyone know #why? I have tried grub-install which apparently is #successful, but once I attempt to reboot, it hangs #with the word, GRUB printed. Attempt 3: Chainloading GRUB #This time I though I had it. I created S1 FAT #partition and S2 UFS2 partition on the stick. I # was able to use setup from the grub shell to setup #the FAT slice as the location for stage2. On the #ufs2 partition I set up the proper /boot setup above. #I read on an old post and someone mentioned that #boot2 does something stupid, and won't work with a #chainload scenario. I tried it anyways, and it didn't #work. I had heard that it might work if you bounce #boot0 to the beginning of the slice instead of the #disk MBR so I did. boot0cfg -B -s 2 -t 182 -v /dev/da0s2 #seemed to go well. I rebooted, and got as far as #the F key menu, but again nothing worked, and I #couldn't boot. Just to add, I also tried the whole booting FreeBSD from a FAT partition but that just plain doesn't work [2]. Well that's where I am. I can't tell you how much you will rock my world if you can show me how to fix this. These are some ideas I have, but don't know enough to do anything about: (1) BIOS issues; from what I understand each computer manufacturer takes a base bios (phoenix in my case) and proprietories it up. I'm dreading that maybe my BIOS will prevent any of this from working. Doesn't seem to be documentation anywhere on my manufac's site. (2) Bootblocks; Maybe there's some easy modifications or config files for boot blocks I don't know about? Maybe there are some alternatives? (3) GRUB patches; I've been downloading ports from another PC (no network yet)burning to CD, then making. done it twice now. Is there some wonderful patch to GRUB that makes it work with FreeBSD I don't know about? Do any of you have it working? if so , can I copy how you built exactly? Alright, that's all. I'm sorry for the length of this post, it's my first one, and I have seriously dredged pretty hard on my own for a solution. Thanks again. Fred [1] http://www.proportion.ch/index.php?page=31 http://www.daimi.au.dk/~u063592/ http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=43796 [2] http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?2002003159.A46044 Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GRUB / boot easy problems w / USB stick
I am looking for some help to enable booting from a USB stick. After weeks of reading, and attempting I am at a total loss. This all began while I was trying to follow the many excellent tutorials on encrypting whole laptop disks with GELI[1]. These tutorials were great except they didn't really cover how to make the sticks bootable. Here is some of the many things I have tried. Background: My laptop BIOS allows me to pick the boot order from 7 devices, I set them as follows: (1) USB Key (2) USB HDD (3) USB CDROM (4) USB FDC (5) IDE CD (6) IDE HDD (7) PCI BEV Attempt 1: FreeBSD Boot Manager # created a dedicated slice on my 512MB stick with a #UFS2 filesystem. (after fdisk) bsdlabel -Brw /dev/da0s1 newfs /dev/da0s1 # Copied over boot files to usb filesystem. mount /dev/da0s1 /usb mkdir /usb/boot cd /boot cp -Rpv * /usb/boot # Placed FreeBSD boot manager on MBR of USB stick. boot0cfg -B -s 1 -t -v 182 /dev/da0 Problem: When I reboot the laptop keyboard won't allow me to select a partition with the F keys. Attempt 2: GRUB # make install grub from the ports collection. copy #over the files from #/usr/local/share/grub/i386-freebsd/* to /boot/grub. #My understanding was that Grub can read write UFS2 #because of patches since version 0.94. So on my first #attempt I made a single UFS2 partition. mount /dev/da0s1 /usb mkdir -p /usb/boot/grub cd /boot cp -Rpv * /usb/boot cd /boot/grub cp -Rpv * /usb/boot/grub #I invoke the grub shell. There are two devices in my #device map: (hd0) /dev/ad0 (hd1) /dev/da0 # Now if I try to set root in the following ways I'll #get the following: grub root (hd0,0,a) Filesystem type is ufs2, partition type 0xa5 grub root (hd1,0) Filesystem type is unknown, partition type 0xa5 # now before you say it, I also tried (hd1,0,a) but #this is even worse in some situations. Basically I #can't get grub to read or write to the USB stick with #a UFS2 filesystem. Yet it will read write to the #UFS2 filesystem of the native disk. Does anyone know #why? I have tried grub-install which apparently is #successful, but once I attempt to reboot, it hangs #with the word, GRUB printed. Attempt 3: Chainloading GRUB #This time I though I had it. I created S1 FAT #partition and S2 UFS2 partition on the stick. I # was able to use setup from the grub shell to setup #the FAT slice as the location for stage2. On the #ufs2 partition I set up the proper /boot setup above. #I read on an old post and someone mentioned that #boot2 does something stupid, and won't work with a #chainload scenario. I tried it anyways, and it didn't #work. I had heard that it might work if you bounce #boot0 to the beginning of the slice instead of the #disk MBR so I did. boot0cfg -B -s 2 -t 182 -v /dev/da0s2 #seemed to go well. I rebooted, and got as far as #the F key menu, but again nothing worked, and I #couldn't boot. Just to add, I also tried the whole booting FreeBSD from a FAT partition but that just plain doesn't work [2]. Well that's where I am. I can't tell you how much you will rock my world if you can show me how to fix this. These are some ideas I have, but don't know enough to do anything about: (1) BIOS issues; from what I understand each computer manufacturer takes a base bios (phoenix in my case) and proprietories it up. I'm dreading that maybe my BIOS will prevent any of this from working. Doesn't seem to be documentation anywhere on my manufac's site. (2) Bootblocks; Maybe there's some easy modifications or config files for boot blocks I don't know about? Maybe there are some alternatives? (3) GRUB patches; I've been downloading ports from another PC (no network yet)burning to CD, then making. done it twice now. Is there some wonderful patch to GRUB that makes it work with FreeBSD I don't know about? Do any of you have it working? if so , can I copy how you built exactly? Alright, that's all. I'm sorry for the length of this post, it's my first one, and I have seriously dredged pretty hard on my own for a solution. Thanks again. Fred [1] http://www.proportion.ch/index.php?page=31 http://www.daimi.au.dk/~u063592/ http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=43796 [2] http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?2002003159.A46044 Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10/100/1000 Ethernet hardware recommendation
At 11:59 AM 6/2/2007, Christopher Hilton wrote: . All of these machines are older Pentium III 1GHz single or dual CPU class machines. .. I'd like to go to Gig E to improve performance for a hand full of clients on the local LAN and to move critical data out of the DMZ. Eventually I plan to replace the current generation of servers with something more modern like HP DL360 G5 and DL380 G5 hardware. Based on that, if my assumptions are correct then the 64bit Intel Hardware seems to be the way to go. The disk bandwidth on your current servers is going to probably be the bottleneck. Highest I've been able to shoot over the wire is 33MB/s with similar hardware. Probably just by the inexpensive 32bit PCI cards now. You next gen' of machines will probably take PCI-E cards, not 64bit PCI-X. -RW ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 console setup
Jim Capozzoli wrote: Hello list, I have 3 monitors and 3 video cards. However, one videocard and monitor isn't very X11 friendly. (X11 barely starts on it). I was wondering if it would be possible to have X11 running on two of the monitors, and then have a full screen console (like a ttyv0) on the third monitor (so I could constantly leave top or something sweet running on there :D). This is all with FreeBSD 6.2/i386 and Xorg 6.9 or 7.2. Any suggestions? Thanks. It should do do-able, perhaps somewhat easily. /usr/ports/x11-servers/x2x is what comes to mind --- IIRC, Greg groggy Lehey of The Complete FreeBSD fame uses this for several displays, and has notes on his setup in her personal pages at www.lemis.com. HTH, Kevin Kinsey -- I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrade Today !
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Re: How to disable command prompt history?
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote sac thusly... VeeJay wrote: Could someone would like to describe that how we can disable to show last executed commands by pressing Up Arrow? ... By default most of the shells like bash, zsh, ksh have history option. But you can avoid writing the history of the current session to the history file by unsetting the HISTFILE environment variable. So next time when you login the history of the previous session will not be shown. Perhaps so, but to me it seems that OP was asking to turn off the history recall in the current session itself. In bash zsh, setting HISTSIZE may be of some value. - Parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Flatbed scanners for FreeBSD
Hi everybody, What scanners are best used with FreeBSD? I'm hoping for one that I can use in both Windoze and FreeBSD. Preferably, one that is USB. I've never configured a scanner for FreeBSD before and would like recommendations on hardware before purchasing. Thanks, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10/100/1000 Ethernet hardware recommendation
What is the bandwidth of your upstream? if it is not more than 155M, my experience desktop GigE is fine for you. Between DMZ and the Local LAN, you can consider the 64 bit cards if you have high volume of data transfer. but 32 bit cards is enough. For the hardware, I am using CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz with 2G memory. Don't need the modern hardware if you don't have many applications running and just use it as routing Thank you Christopher Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: chloe K wrote: intel desktop GigE (32 bits) around 380M intel server GigE (64 bits) around 800M - 900M While this may seem obvious I'm gonna ask it anyway. I'm being pedantic here and assuming: The performance numbers are best case MBytes per second; That the 64bit card is in a 64bit slot; That the 64bit card in a 32bit slot would give similar performance to the 32 bit card. A little information about my situation is probably in order. I have a DMZ with FreeBSD box acting as a NAS (samba/dav/nfs fileshare); a postgresql database server; a mysql database server; and an apache webserver; and a postfix mail server. All of these machines are older Pentium III 1GHz single or dual CPU class machines. It's more than enough performance for the bulk of my clients which are bottlenecked by their connection over the internet. I'd like to go to Gig E to improve performance for a hand full of clients on the local LAN and to move critical data out of the DMZ. Eventually I plan to replace the current generation of servers with something more modern like HP DL360 G5 and DL380 G5 hardware. Based on that, if my assumptions are correct then the 64bit Intel Hardware seems to be the way to go. -- Chris -- __o All I was doing was trying to get home from work. _`\,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)___ Christopher Sean Hilton pgp key: D0957A2D/f5 30 0a e1 55 76 9b 1f 47 0b 07 e9 75 0e 14 - All new Yahoo! Mail - - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GRUB / boot easy problems w / USB stick
On 6/2/07, Fred Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for some help to enable booting from a USB stick. After weeks of reading, and attempting I am at a total loss. This all began while I was trying to follow the many excellent tutorials on encrypting whole laptop disks with GELI[1]. These tutorials were great except they didn't really cover how to make the sticks bootable. Here is some of the many things I have tried. Background: My laptop BIOS allows me to pick the boot order from 7 devices, I set them as follows: (1) USB Key (2) USB HDD (3) USB CDROM (4) USB FDC (5) IDE CD (6) IDE HDD (7) PCI BEV Attempt 1: FreeBSD Boot Manager # created a dedicated slice on my 512MB stick with a #UFS2 filesystem. (after fdisk) bsdlabel -Brw /dev/da0s1 newfs /dev/da0s1 # Copied over boot files to usb filesystem. mount /dev/da0s1 /usb mkdir /usb/boot cd /boot cp -Rpv * /usb/boot # Placed FreeBSD boot manager on MBR of USB stick. boot0cfg -B -s 1 -t -v 182 /dev/da0 Problem: When I reboot the laptop keyboard won't allow me to select a partition with the F keys. Attempt 2: GRUB # make install grub from the ports collection. copy #over the files from #/usr/local/share/grub/i386-freebsd/* to /boot/grub. #My understanding was that Grub can read write UFS2 #because of patches since version 0.94. So on my first #attempt I made a single UFS2 partition. mount /dev/da0s1 /usb mkdir -p /usb/boot/grub cd /boot cp -Rpv * /usb/boot cd /boot/grub cp -Rpv * /usb/boot/grub #I invoke the grub shell. There are two devices in my #device map: (hd0) /dev/ad0 (hd1) /dev/da0 # Now if I try to set root in the following ways I'll #get the following: grub root (hd0,0,a) Filesystem type is ufs2, partition type 0xa5 grub root (hd1,0) Filesystem type is unknown, partition type 0xa5 # now before you say it, I also tried (hd1,0,a) but #this is even worse in some situations. Basically I #can't get grub to read or write to the USB stick with #a UFS2 filesystem. Yet it will read write to the #UFS2 filesystem of the native disk. Does anyone know #why? I have tried grub-install which apparently is #successful, but once I attempt to reboot, it hangs #with the word, GRUB printed. Attempt 3: Chainloading GRUB #This time I though I had it. I created S1 FAT #partition and S2 UFS2 partition on the stick. I # was able to use setup from the grub shell to setup #the FAT slice as the location for stage2. On the #ufs2 partition I set up the proper /boot setup above. #I read on an old post and someone mentioned that #boot2 does something stupid, and won't work with a #chainload scenario. I tried it anyways, and it didn't #work. I had heard that it might work if you bounce #boot0 to the beginning of the slice instead of the #disk MBR so I did. boot0cfg -B -s 2 -t 182 -v /dev/da0s2 #seemed to go well. I rebooted, and got as far as #the F key menu, but again nothing worked, and I #couldn't boot. Just to add, I also tried the whole booting FreeBSD from a FAT partition but that just plain doesn't work [2]. Well that's where I am. I can't tell you how much you will rock my world if you can show me how to fix this. These are some ideas I have, but don't know enough to do anything about: (1) BIOS issues; from what I understand each computer manufacturer takes a base bios (phoenix in my case) and proprietories it up. I'm dreading that maybe my BIOS will prevent any of this from working. Doesn't seem to be documentation anywhere on my manufac's site. (2) Bootblocks; Maybe there's some easy modifications or config files for boot blocks I don't know about? Maybe there are some alternatives? (3) GRUB patches; I've been downloading ports from another PC (no network yet)burning to CD, then making. done it twice now. Is there some wonderful patch to GRUB that makes it work with FreeBSD I don't know about? Do any of you have it working? if so , can I copy how you built exactly? Alright, that's all. I'm sorry for the length of this post, it's my first one, and I have seriously dredged pretty hard on my own for a solution. Thanks again. Fred [1] http://www.proportion.ch/index.php?page=31 http://www.daimi.au.dk/~u063592/ http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=43796 [2] http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?2002003159.A46044 Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some thoughts: 1. bsdlabel -Brw /dev/da0s1 - What is the option r? - bsdlabel is supposed to create standard label which probably means creating da0s1a partition (can you call
Re: FreeBSD on Apple Mac Mini?
On 03/06/2007, at 2:05 AM, Richard Tobin wrote: Does FreeBSD run well on the Mac Mini (x86)? I'm considering getting one to use for both MacOS and FreeBSD (booting from an external disk, if that's reasonable). Yep, it works fine. I used boot camp to create a small boot partition on the internal drive, and it loads everything else from an external USB drive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flatbed scanners for FreeBSD
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Andrew Falanga wrote: What scanners are best used with FreeBSD? I'm hoping for one that I can use in both Windoze and FreeBSD. Preferably, one that is USB. I've never configured a scanner for FreeBSD before and would like recommendations on hardware before purchasing. The best supported are those recognized by uscanner. 'man uscanner' or look at /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c to see the list. Also look at http://www.sane-project.org to see which are the easiest to use (status Good or Complete, no firmware downloads needed). Really, picking a scanner is tough. Finding ones that are supported is tricky enough. Finding one that isn't terribly slow is worse, since the manufacturers often don't provide benchmarks. I have an Epson 1640SU which works great. Recommended, if you can find one. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flatbed scanners for FreeBSD
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 03:15:22PM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote: Hi everybody, What scanners are best used with FreeBSD? I'm hoping for one that I can use in both Windoze and FreeBSD. Preferably, one that is USB. I've never configured a scanner for FreeBSD before and would like recommendations on hardware before purchasing. Look at the website for the SANE (acanner access now easy) project. If it is listed there, it will probably work; http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#SCANNERS I've had good experiences with Epson scanners, but mine is several years old, and you can't buy them anymore. If you have a specific model in mind, google for it's name in combination with SANE, to see if it comes up on the SANE mailing list. E.g. they've gotten the cheap Epson Perfection V10 working recently; http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2006-November/017993.html Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpBCYMIyICKy.pgp Description: PGP signature
php5-extensions and xorg libraries
Hello, I will appreciate any help. When trying to install php5-extensions, I get the following error: === Applying FreeBSD patches for php5-gd-5.2.2 === php5-gd-5.2.2 depends on executable in : phpize - found === php5-gd-5.2.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - found === php5-gd-5.2.2 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries Read /usr/ports/UPDATING for the procedure to upgrade or install xorg 7.2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/php5-gd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall.60873.0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! lang/php5-extensions (unknown build error) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed Although I do not need xorg, I thought I would install it to get the xorg-libraries working, but this ends in more or less the same way: === dri-6.5.3_1,2 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries - not found ===Verifying reinstall for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries Read /usr/ports/UPDATING for the procedure to upgrade or install xorg 7.2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/dri. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/dri. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall.75258.0 env make reinstall ** Fix the installation problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11/xorg (install error) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed I cannot install php5-extensions, nor xorg nor xorg-libraries. I am lost as to what to do. Many thanks in advance! Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSD derivatives
I am primarily concerned about security from internet hacking, and am therefore considering setting up a separate internet computer with BSD. What is your association with Open BSD? with Linux? Are there copyright or other related issues involved? It appears that FreeBSD is the most closely associated with the original Berkeley programmers. I was told that OpenBSD provided the best security. But I also note that changes have occurred at OBSD, and wonder if this is still true. Blake Finley ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMP System but only CPU#0 being used?
Hi All, Just wondering about something here. First of all, I am running FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE and the CPU stats (parts of dmesg) CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2992.52-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf49 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x641dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14 AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1065287680 (1015 MB) avail memory = 1033314304 (985 MB) ACPI APIC Table: GBTAWRDACPI FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Now some processes: last pid: 1420; load averages: 0.02, 0.09, 0.15 up 0+02:03:03 23:04:35 69 processes: 1 running, 68 sleeping CPU states: 3.8% user, 0.0% nice, 2.6% system, 0.8% interrupt, 92.9% idle Mem: 116M Active, 115M Inact, 172M Wired, 140K Cache, 110M Buf, 585M Free Swap: 2007M Total, 2007M Free PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 658 alex 1 960 288M 33708K select 0 1:43 0.88% Xorg 815 alex 4 200 47640K 30416K kserel 0 3:49 0.00% vlc 998 alex 1 960 21660K 17372K select 0 0:21 0.00% xchat 1389 alex 5 200 62768K 54436K kserel 0 0:16 0.00% firefox-bin 729 alex 1 960 31572K 27840K select 0 0:16 0.00% kdeinit 601 root 1 960 1344K 796K select 0 0:09 0.00% moused 717 alex 1 960 30360K 25588K select 0 0:06 0.00% kdeinit 1106 alex 1 960 30560K 24052K select 0 0:06 0.00% kdeinit 727 alex 1 960 32772K 29300K select 0 0:06 0.00% kdeinit 725 alex 1 960 26108K 21288K select 0 0:05 0.00% kdeinit 735 alex 1 60 -36 10452K 7448K select 0 0:04 0.00% artsd 693 alex 1 960 3612K 2380K select 0 0:02 0.00% gam_server 1412 alex 5 200 23520K 17816K kserel 0 0:01 0.00% gnome-terminal 740 alex 1 960 25124K 20228K select 0 0:01 0.00% kdeinit 743 alex 1 960 26780K 21600K select 0 0:00 0.00% korgac 1391 alex 1 960 5852K 4536K select 0 0:00 0.00% gconfd-2 712 alex 1 960 23032K 17016K select 0 0:00 0.00% kdeinit 737 alex 1 960 24580K 19284K select 0 0:00 0.00% kdeinit 708 alex 1 960 23436K 17612K select 0 0:00 0.00% kdeinit 1414 alex 5 200 6168K 4060K kserel 0 0:00 0.00% bonobo-activation-s 1140 alex 1 960 26668K 22264K select 0 0:00 0.00% kdeinit 715 alex 1 960 25080K 19584K select 0 0:00 0.00% kdeinit 722 alex 1 80 1392K 860K nanslp 0 0:00 0.00% kwrapper 574 root 1 960 3528K 2808K select 0 0:00 0.00% sendmail 724 alex 1 960 24600K 19248K select 0 0:00 0.00% kdeinit 1415 alex 1 40 3092K 1576K sbwait 0 0:00 0.00% gnome-pty-helper 1416 alex 1 80 3200K 2156K wait 0 0:00 0.00% bash 1420 alex 1 960 2420K 1624K CPU0 0 0:00 0.00 and theres many more All of them are using CPU #0 though? What am i missing here? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMP System but only CPU#0 being used?
At 09:41 AM 6/3/2007 +1000, Alex R wrote: Hi All, Just wondering about something here. First of all, I am running FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE and the CPU stats (parts of dmesg) CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2992.52-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf49 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x641dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14 AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1065287680 (1015 MB) avail memory = 1033314304 (985 MB) ACPI APIC Table: GBTAWRDACPI FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Now some processes: If this is HTT (seems to be) and not 'real' dual processors I just answered this last week? Check /etc/sysctl.conf for this: machdep.hyperthreading_allowed=1 -JD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMP System but only CPU#0 being used?
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:43:52 -0500, JD Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is HTT (seems to be) and not 'real' dual processors I just answered this last week? Check /etc/sysctl.conf for this: machdep.hyperthreading_allowed=1 -JD Thanks for the reply, I checked that sysctl variable and it seems to be set to 0, i will try setting it to 1 and see what happens. The CPU is a LGA775 Pentium-M with EMT64 I think, I remember the CPU box saying dual core on it (not core duo though). Pentium 4 was socket 478 from memory or did Intel do a Pentium 4 in LGA775 too? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD derivatives
Blake Finley, MA, ABD-2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am primarily concerned about security from internet hacking, and am therefore considering setting up a separate internet computer with BSD. You shouldn't use FreeBSD, then. It's written by hackers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker If you're trying to protect yourself from Internet criminals, though, you'll find FreeBSD very useful. What is your association with Open BSD? with Linux? There have got to be a jillion explanations of this on the WWW. Are you familiar with google?: http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/history.html Those are just two that I found quickly. Are there copyright or other related issues involved? Sure. Although I don't really know what you mean by that. It appears that FreeBSD is the most closely associated with the original Berkeley programmers. Depends on who you ask. I was told that OpenBSD provided the best security. But I also note that changes have occurred at OBSD, and wonder if this is still true. What changes are those? OpenBSD puts security higher on its list of project goals and motivating factors than any other OS I know. Whether or not that actually causes it to be more secure or not is a subject of some debate, although the general consensus seems to be that they are largely successful. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on Apple Mac Mini?
Does FreeBSD run well on the Mac Mini (x86)? I'm considering getting one to use for both MacOS and FreeBSD (booting from an external disk, if that's reasonable). Yep, it works fine. I used boot camp to create a small boot partition on the internal drive, and it loads everything else from an external USB drive. Thanks. A few more questions: - Any reason to prefer USB over Firewire? - Do you have to use a boot partition on the internal disk? Can FreeBSD boot from external USB or Firewire? - Which release of FreeBSD are you using? Thanks, Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flashplugin problem after xorg 7.2 upgrade
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 05:36 +0200, Nikola Lecic wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 04:35:33 +0200 Nikola Lecic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 04:13:59 +0300 Ozan Enginoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] And is there any way to play flash files without using nspluginwrapper? Only in linux versions (linux-opera, linux-firefox...). There is no way to use linux flashplugin in native browsers without a wrapper. Actually, yes, depends on what you need. You can use graphics/libflash with www/flashplugin-mozilla (supports flash files up to version 4) and graphics/gnash (GNU flash player, which is not actually a plugin; AFAIK still can't handle YouTube, but it will in the near future). At this moment, if you want to cover the most demanding flash sites, you have no choice but to use linux-flashplugin (with a wrapper), as described in the mail I've just sent. Nikola Lečić Ok, here are my computer properties: evo n800v compaq laptop with 1.8 ghz and 512 ram. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nspluginwrapper -a -v -i Auto-install plugins from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins Looking for plugins in /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins Auto-install plugins from /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/plugins Looking for plugins in /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/plugins Auto-install plugins from /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin Looking for plugins in /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin Install plugin /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so ... already installed system-wide, skipping Auto-install plugins from /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux Looking for plugins in /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux Install plugin /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) as a user i get the same core dumped error. Now i can play any flash in firefox but inspide of that i got pid 4909 (npconfig), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) error. I changed the depth from 16 to 32 but i still got these errors. And when i open 3 web sites with flash plugins the cpu usage is approx. (and stable) 45%. Is this normal? See ya! -- Ozan Enginoğlu Mechanical Engineer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD derivatives
Bill Moran wrote: OpenBSD puts security higher on its list of project goals and motivating factors than any other OS I know. I disagree. I'd say that OpenBSD and FreeBSD put security in exactly the same place -- at the top of the list. I think the distinction to draw is that FreeBSD has a longer (albeit unwritten) list of project goals, with the effect that a smaller proportion of the development being done on FreeBSD is security-related; this may make it look like we care less about security, but it's really just a sign that FreeBSD is a larger project. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendations for config file revision control
On 6/2/07, Thierry Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did just think of another thing I could do. What if I create a new directory on the server, and move all configuration files from their original location to this directory. I then make then make it into an svn working directory, and in place of the original files put symlinks that point to the corresponding file in the working directory. This would mean that I no longer have .svn directories all over the file system, there is just one working directory that is separate from everything else. Instead of an export operation I could have the hook script do an update, and this would also give me a rather simple way of editing the files locally on the server (plus it has the advantage of quick access to all important files without having to constantly move from /etc to /usr/local/etc). Does this seem like a decent idea to try and do? Might some software have a problem with its configuration file being a symlink to some other location? Sorry for my previous top-posting. Will a chrooted named work if you make files in /var/named/etc/namedb/ symlinks to the working directory ? Regards, Thierry. I'm not sure I understand your question. A symlink will work if you can get to the target inside the chrooted environment. You can't symlink to a file that's outside of the root. Here's an update on what I ended up going with. I decided to go with my idea of moving all configuration files to a common directory, but with a bit of a change. I created /config and under it base/ and user/. Everything in base/ comes from /etc and /boot, and the rest goes under user/. I didn't want to mix the two. So then I created a new subversion repository, but I set permissions such that only root can read or write to it. Basically I decided to forbid anyone on the outside from getting their hands on the repository contents, since it will be storing things like master.passwd and other sensitive data. Once all this was in place I moved all configuration files to their appropriate locations in /config and created symlinks in their original location. Everything under /config was then imported into the subversion repository using the file:// method. Since I forbid anyone from doing a check-out of the repository to some external location, I don't need to worry about file updates except when they are updated in /config. This simplifies things. What I did to keep the repository up to date was create a simple sh script that is run by cron every 10 minutes. The script simply issues 'svn ci --non-interactive --message Automatic commit' command in the /config directory. So any changes made to the configuration files are automatically recorded every 10 minutes. This works well, but does have a few flaws. First of all, when I edit files from sftp I have no way to add a meaningful message to the commit. Not a big deal, and I can always do a manual commit if I had to. The other thing is that this script will not auto-add files to the repository. Any new configuration file that I'd like to have monitored first gets moved to /config, then has a link created in the original place, then is added to the repository via 'svn add'. A bit more work, but I think it's fine. Technically I can automate the process of adding and removing files from the repository by using svn status output, but at this point the extra work isn't worth it. The bigger problem is the fact that subversion does not store owner and permission settings. That means that if I ever want to delete the /config directory and recreate it, I lose all permissions on things like master.passwd. What I did was add chown and chmod commands to the monitor script for all files that had non-standard permissions. So those get run along with the svn ci command every 10 minutes. The alternative was to use subversion properties, have the script parse those and apply the appropriate settings. However, since the permissions have to be set manually anyway there is no advantage to this over the monitor script, which is also versioned. So that's my solution to this problem, for anyone else who is interested. I took a look at all the recommended version control systems, including the list on wikipedia. A few looked interesting, but I decided against them for one reason or another. I think this subversion solution is a good compromise, but I'm always open to better ideas if you have any. - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD derivatives
Blake Finley, MA, ABD-2 wrote: Hello. Hope it's not too tongue-in-chic, but it's practically irresistable. I am primarily concerned about security from internet hacking, and am therefore considering setting up a separate internet computer with BSD. What is your association with Open BSD? Hmm, three letters, and, long, long ago in a galaxy far away (1993, California), the same codebase. These days, it's possible that some developers work on both the FreeBSD and OpenBSD projects (I don't know for sure), and, once in a great while, when somebody over here says something, um, wrong(?), Theo De Raadt drops by to Set Us Straight(TM). [I can only assume that some of us go over there first to invite combat. Indeed, I might be doing it now. Generally, I respect the OpenBSD team's outlook on life in general, etc., and I download _all_ the songs.] You might wish to also read about and/or consider NetBSD and DragonFlyBSD. Also, PCBSD and Desktop BSD are relatively new projects that are based on the work of the FreeBSD Project, with an eye to being, maybe, more user friendly in regard to installation in particular and configuration in general. Lastly, you might want to consider obtaining FreesBIE, a Live CD system based on FreeBSD. You can boot a computer from CDROM into FreeBSD and 1 of a few different types of user environments, maybe get a feel for it, test your hardware, read the manpages, read /COPYRIGHT, perhaps other read documentation, courtesy of some hard-working Italian hackers (and some from some other places). with Linux? What's that? /evil grin If you are familiar with Linux, search at Google with the string BSD Linux Matthew Fuller rant. It's a fairly well thought-through tirade on some of the differences Linux users perceive when they look at (Free)BSD. If you _aren't_ familiar with Linux, let's just say that FreeBSD is to Linux as Ferrari is to Pontiac (or, maybe vice-versa, depending on whom you read --- of course, many people these days are pathological liars and can't be trusted, right?), and then leave it dead somewhere near there. Both are computer operating systems with several similarities, enough that if you can drive one, you can probably get around in the other. They just aren't the *same*. Are there copyright or other related issues involved? You will need to be more specific. *-BSD systems are under the BSD Copyright, which I'm sure you can find with a web search. Some software on FreeBSD (and by extension PCBSD and 'Desktop BSD') may also be under the FSF's GPL. The compiler comes to mind, for starters. I believe that one of the goals of many BSD developers is to ultimately be rid of GPL'ed software; but, then again, one of many humans' goals it to ultimately build a Utopian society without many of the societal ills we face. It's not so likely to happen very soon at all. It appears that FreeBSD is the most closely associated with the original Berkeley programmers. Maybe. NetBSD and FreeBSD were both originally based heavily on UC Berkley work, most notably 4.3BSD/Net 2, and then 4.4BSD after it became unencumbered. Speaking of Copyright above, and, if you are referring to issues such as the SCO/Linux court battle or the recent Microsoft claim that Linux infringes on $n of their patents, as far as we know, no one has any commercial copyright, per se, in the FreeBSD source code. The lawsuit on that one was settled in 1993, out of court IIRC. The contestants were BSDI (and, to some extent, by extension, U. Cal), and ATT's Unix Systems Laboratories. I was told that OpenBSD provided the best security. But I also note that changes have occurred at OBSD, and wonder if this is still true. Actually, OpenBSD does have an excellent security track record. They might also welcome a large monetary donation, should you be so endowed and inclined. OTOH, it's totally Free, also, in rather the same way as FreeBSD. OpenBSD forked from NetBSD many years ago for some reason or another that I'm sure you can read up on with resources on the WWW (or, maybe the aforementioned Mr. De Raadt will Set Me Straight(TM)). Let me encourage you to read appropriate sections of, or even all of the FreeBSD handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook). It is probably the best open-source operating system documentation in existence (and perhaps better than any proprietary OS docs, also). Bah, too many words. Good luck with your search for security! Kevin Kinsey -- The devil finds work for idle glands. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD derivatives
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 04:18:33PM -0700, Blake Finley, MA, ABD-2 wrote: I am primarily concerned about security from internet hacking, and am therefore considering setting up a separate internet computer with BSD. What is your association with Open BSD? with Linux? Are there copyright or other related issues involved? You can read the copyright information on the web site. It will give you better information than repeating it hear. It appears that FreeBSD is the most closely associated with the original Berkeley programmers. Essentially true. I was told that OpenBSD provided the best security. But I also note that changes have occurred at OBSD, and wonder if this is still true. Well, OpenBSd has made a point of being security conscious, but FreeBSD fixes any problems that come up in it as well. For real work situations I think the differences are quite small nowdays insofar as security is concerned. But, I am sure someone would enjoy splitting bits over that. jerry Blake Finley ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD derivatives
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:10:27 -0700 Colin Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Moran wrote: OpenBSD puts security higher on its list of project goals and motivating factors than any other OS I know. I disagree. I'd say that OpenBSD and FreeBSD put security in exactly the same place -- at the top of the list. Sorry but I have to disagree here. FreeBSD ships with closed source software including following drivers: ath, nve, oltr, rr232x, hptmv. Closed source software implies potential insecurity. If security is at the top of the list then I see a clear contradiction here. Jona -- I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and tell you that you are free. Eris, Goddess Of Chaos, Discord Confusion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD derivatives
--On June 3, 2007 4:33:01 AM +0200 Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:10:27 -0700 Colin Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Moran wrote: OpenBSD puts security higher on its list of project goals and motivating factors than any other OS I know. I disagree. I'd say that OpenBSD and FreeBSD put security in exactly the same place -- at the top of the list. Sorry but I have to disagree here. FreeBSD ships with closed source software including following drivers: ath, nve, oltr, rr232x, hptmv. Closed source software implies potential insecurity. If security is at the top of the list then I see a clear contradiction here. Sorry, but that's an incredibly naive statement. *All* software implies potential insecurity. It's the nature of software. If it were untrue, there would be no security patches for open source software. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Re: portsdb error
saturn# make describe
On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set default
X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}
in make.conf.
On the other hand, if you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please set
variable USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE.
*** Error code 1
I guess I need to set a variable in make.conf.
odd though, I have WITHOUT_X11 set in make.conf
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 03:55:14PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote:
Hi all,
While running portsdb -uU, I'm getting the following:
This is with no refuse files, nothing ignored, and a full up-to-date ports
collection. Any ideas?
saturn# portsdb -uU
Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..===
arabic/ae_fonts_mono failed
*** Error code 1
=== accessibility/at-poke failed
*** Error code 1
2 errors
What happens when you run make describe in those directories?
Kris
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Re: BSD derivatives
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:53:52PM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Blake Finley, MA, ABD-2 wrote: If you are familiar with Linux, search at Google with the string BSD Linux Matthew Fuller rant. It's a fairly well thought-through tirade on some of the differences Linux users perceive when they look at (Free)BSD. If you _aren't_ familiar with Linux, let's just say that FreeBSD is to Linux as Ferrari is to Pontiac (or, maybe vice-versa, depending on whom you read --- of course, many people these days are pathological liars and can't be trusted, right?), and then leave it dead somewhere near there. Both are computer operating systems with several similarities, enough that if you can drive one, you can probably get around in the other. They just aren't the *same*. I'd say it's probably more like Linux is a two-rail snow sled with an Exocet rocket motor bolted to it while FreeBSD is a racing snowmobile. At least, that's how they feel in comparison with one another, to someone who made the switch from Debian to FreeBSD starting in November of last year (that's me). I prefer the snowmobile, but some people just like an out-of-control ride at 315m/s. Go figure. You will need to be more specific. *-BSD systems are under the BSD Copyright, which I'm sure you can find with a web search. Some software on FreeBSD (and by extension PCBSD and 'Desktop BSD') may also be under the FSF's GPL. The compiler comes to mind, for starters. I believe that one of the goals of many BSD developers is to ultimately be rid of GPL'ed software; but, then again, one of many humans' goals it to ultimately build a Utopian society without many of the societal ills we face. It's not so likely to happen very soon at all. That's something I've been wondering about. Do you (or anyone else here) happen to know if there's an ongoing project/effort to replace gcc for the *BSDs? Actually, OpenBSD does have an excellent security track record. They might also welcome a large monetary donation, should you be so endowed and inclined. OTOH, it's totally Free, also, in rather the same way as FreeBSD. OpenBSD forked from NetBSD many years ago for some reason or another that I'm sure you can read up on with resources on the WWW (or, maybe the aforementioned Mr. De Raadt will Set Me Straight(TM)). Totally free except the format of the official installer, that is. It may seem like a minor matter, but for perfect accuracy it should probably be mentioned at least in passing. Let me encourage you to read appropriate sections of, or even all of the FreeBSD handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook). It is probably the best open-source operating system documentation in existence (and perhaps better than any proprietary OS docs, also). Judging by my experience with proprietary OSes, they tend to be worse than pretty much all of the major Linux distros, which puts FreeBSD even further ahead of proprietary OS documentation. YMMV. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Paul Graham: Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD derivatives
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 04:33:01AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:10:27 -0700 Colin Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Moran wrote: OpenBSD puts security higher on its list of project goals and motivating factors than any other OS I know. I disagree. I'd say that OpenBSD and FreeBSD put security in exactly the same place -- at the top of the list. Sorry but I have to disagree here. FreeBSD ships with closed source software including following drivers: ath, nve, oltr, rr232x, hptmv. Closed source software implies potential insecurity. If security is at the top of the list then I see a clear contradiction here. More accurately, I'd say that the closed source drivers only imply priorities contradictory to security if they're installed and active in default configuration. If it's just a binary lump that never executes, on the other hand, or is on a server or CD somewhere waiting to be installed if you want it, that doesn't imply insecurity in the system -- only in the configuration of a system where someone chooses to use the closed source software. Hopefully that made some sense. While I tend to agree with the OpenBSD approach to closed source software in general, I don't think that specifically making it effectively impossible to use without rewriting key parts of the OS yourself is a security-oriented decision. Security involves not using closed source software, not telling everyone else that they can't use it either. I'm not saying that's what the OpenBSD project does. I'm just saying that, for instance, the availability of the ath driver contradicts a claim that security is a top priority of the FreeBSD project. Only if it was installed and operational by default would that really be the case. Obviously, I'm assuming it's not installed by default. From what I've read so far, it's not -- please correct me if I'm wrong. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Amazon.com interview candidate: When C++ is your hammer, everything starts to look like your thumb. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Squid and IPFW
Sorry, forgot to add the list... Hi again, On 01/06/07, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you really sure you want to do that way? I am sure about me wanting to use FreeBSD and i am sure about me liking IPFW. *I am not sure* if it is the best way of doing this, but i believe that if you know how to setup the system and IPFW appropriately, then it can be a very good firewall solution. I am also sure that if you setup sth like this from scratch and you are not an expert, it would need time before it becomes strong enough. I am not an expert and unfortunately my time is being shared between multiple things at the moment, even though I would like to concentrate only on this... Squid wont be able to control access to https or ftp. And what about http on non-standard ports, e.g. http://easynews.com:81 These are consequent questions. What would you recommend on this? As i mentioned I sent this post quite in advance. Before i start setting up. without setting this on each workstation? http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/ConfiguringBrowsers has some options It is not for a home network. I wouldn't want to have to set each workstation' s browser settings. Especially since there is another way of doing this. On 02/06/07, Steve Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The people that are smart enough to get around this kind of a block in an organization are generally not the problem. It is the morons that have no concept of appropriate use of the Internet in the workplace who are the problems, and they will be effectively stopped. :o) I agree with Ted here. It's the innapropriate web surfers who are the main problem, however, traffic filters will catch people using odd ports, and firewall rules are there to fix this. I know from experience and is a fact, that traffic/packet filters can be used effectively to strengthen the firewall rules. I use much the same setup for my 8 year old son. He only gets Internet access to websites that we have approved and added to the squid list. May I make a recommendation for DansGuardian for home users. I have used it for a few years now, and instead of maintaining just a single list of allowed sites, it does a fantastic job of filtering the actual content, images, url's and a bunch of other things. Of course physical observance is the best approach, but the Squid/Dansguardian approach works exceptionally well when you have to walk away. (I have 4 kids ranging from 5 to 13). Kids feel at home when they are at home. They wouldn't hesitate to type i.e sex.com or do anything else on *their* browser! Most employers (especially those morons that don't know what they do) would hesitate, for many obvious reasons that don't need to be mentioned here. ..I am not disregarding or commenting on Dansguardian here, which i haven't personally used. Spiros -- Spiros P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD derivatives
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 10:10:08PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On June 3, 2007 4:33:01 AM +0200 Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. I'd say that OpenBSD and FreeBSD put security in exactly the same place -- at the top of the list. Sorry but I have to disagree here. FreeBSD ships with closed source software including following drivers: ath, nve, oltr, rr232x, hptmv. Closed source software implies potential insecurity. If security is at the top of the list then I see a clear contradiction here. Sorry, but that's an incredibly naive statement. *All* software implies potential insecurity. It's the nature of software. If it were untrue, there would be no security patches for open source software. Discovery of vulnerabilities in need of patching is not the same as an unsecured system. The key to the above statement that closed source software implies a lack of security is that with closed source software there is an unavoidable and necessary assumption that the vendor has your best security interests at heart and will achieve the same security success that you would, in addition to any success it might itself achieve. The facts have shown that not only are proprietary, closed source software vendors prone to ignoring or hiding vulnerabilities dismayingly often rather than fixing them, but they also (even more dismayingly, but hopefully less often) intentionally include functionality that we the end users would consider security vulnerabilities, and pretend such back doors, rootkits, and spyware do not exist. In short -- software is not trustworthy, which is why double-checking it (in the form of peer review and personal source code access) is so important to security. When peer review and personal source code access are not available, your only option is trust, which is a losing proposition by definition when dealing with software. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] print substr(Just another Perl hacker, 0, -2); ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
