RE: [SOLVED] FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-16 Thread Dimitris Giakoudis
Hi Giorgos.
I like the changes you made and I think you should include this part to the
article. It will help many Greek users out there :)

Regards,
Dimitris

-Original Message-
From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:27 AM
To: Dimitris Giakoudis
Cc: Nikos Kokkalis; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: [SOLVED] FreeBSD and Greek support

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:59:10 +0300, Dimitris Giakoudis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, x11-fonts/webfonts was the missing part of the puzzle :)
 Now, greek web pages seem pretty nice.

 Nikos, I think you should include this to the article.

Hi Dimitris.  Thanks for taking the time to post a [SOLVED] message.

I've prepared a proposed change/addition to the article, which is now
online in diff/patch format at:

http://hg.hellug.gr/freebsd/doc-el/rev/96b47edf541f

The text is in Greek, so it would be nice if you could review the
section I added (the 'green' lines).  Then if both you and Nikos like
the changes, I can commit it to the main CVS tree too.

Cheers,
Giorgos

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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Unfortunately, I don't think Adobe is likely to give a damn about people
who would switch to FreeBSD (or FreeBSD spin-off like PC-BSD) if there


do we need whole lot FreeBSD users? no. after certain amount of users 
quality starts to go down. the same was with linux



whether there's a current, stable Flash player available.  Adobe wants
market penetration -- which it's just as happy to get by people being
stuck on MS Windows as by any other means.


simply don't use flash if it's author don't want you to do it - as that's 
what exactly is. they want only windoze and linux users to use flash, so 
don't use it.

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internet slowdown

2008-06-16 Thread prad
we have 2 freebsd7 servers using pf with static ip addresses through
our cable company (shaw cable) connecting our internal network to the
outside. the servers do websites, email and nameserve (bind94)

sometimes one or both become sluggish letting us connect to websites.
the ping times become 10+ times as long.
pinging the servers from the outside also slows down.

whenever we reboot the servers, everything is fine again for several
hours and then the speed starts fluctuating and then eventually
everything slows down again. (however the several hours is not certain
either because i just rebooted and everything slowed down after a few
minutes this time).

i tried /etc/netstart and that speeded things up for a few pings only.
doing a systat shows the cpu to be idle more than 90% of the time.
we are presently trying to figure out netstat.

we never experienced this issue with freebsd 6.3 which we ran for
several months. we've run freebsd7 since the beginning of june and this
problem seemed to start showing up within the first week.

i am not sure where to look in order to solve this problem -
specifically which log files might provide some clues regarding the net.

suggestions please?

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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread prad
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:17:12 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 simply don't use flash if it's author don't want you to do it - as
 that's what exactly is. they want only windoze and linux users to use
 flash, so don't use it.

i don't use flash - don't need to see all those advertizements. and
quite frankly, i generally find flash sites irritating anyway.

i occasionally like to see some things on youtube (classical music
videos), but i found i could just download them and use ffmpeg to
convert.

i'd rather wait for gnash to come up to speed - or not bother.

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usb modem on freebsd 7.0

2008-06-16 Thread Abhinav Lele
Hi,

I am trying to use a usb modem (sony ericsson w810i) (gprs).
The dmesg log shows up that the new device has been detected, but I don't
seem to find that in /dev.

I also tried using /dev/cuad0 in ppp configuration file in /etc/ppp but i am
unable to dial


What can be the problem ? ( I already have done kldload ucmodem )

-Abhinav
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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

flash, so don't use it.


i don't use flash - don't need to see all those advertizements. and
quite frankly, i generally find flash sites irritating anyway.


i don't use it because sites that RELY on flash rarely (almost never) have 
any useful contents.




i occasionally like to see some things on youtube (classical music
videos), but i found i could just download them and use ffmpeg to


youtube-dl from ports is nice script that do all that. you just give a 
link to this.


youtube made people so dumb that they can't just put their movies on some 
server making it HTTP/FTP accessible, they have to put it on youtube and 
get converted to crap-quality. the movies are at best - recognizable.

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Re: usb modem on freebsd 7.0

2008-06-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Hi,

I am trying to use a usb modem (sony ericsson w810i) (gprs).
The dmesg log shows up that the new device has been detected, but I don't
seem to find that in /dev.


ttyU*, cuaU*

What can be the problem ? ( I already have done kldload ucmodem )


is it recognized as umodem?
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Re: usb modem on freebsd 7.0

2008-06-16 Thread Yuri Pankov

Abhinav Lele wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to use a usb modem (sony ericsson w810i) (gprs).
The dmesg log shows up that the new device has been detected, but I don't
seem to find that in /dev.

I also tried using /dev/cuad0 in ppp configuration file in /etc/ppp but i am
unable to dial


What can be the problem ? ( I already have done kldload ucmodem )

  ^^^
if that should read `umodem', then device is accessed through `ucom' 
driver, and ucom(4) manpage lists following devices:

FILES
 /dev/cuaU?
 /dev/ttyU?

If none are present, could you paste your dmesg?



-Abhinav



HTH,
Yuri
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Enforce minimal file/ dir permissions

2008-06-16 Thread Mister Olli
Hi...

on my filer I have to enforce minimal file permission of 664 for files
and 755 for directorys.

no user should be able to change them to a value less than that.

any ideas how to do this?

greetz
olli

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problem with dovecot and mysql at boot

2008-06-16 Thread Nicolas Letellier
Hello.

In my rc.conf, I have:
dovecot_enable=YES
mysql_enable=YES

At boot, I have this error:
Jun 16 12:34:16 trinite dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connect failed to 
localhost (panel): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - waiting for 1 seconds before retry

I think it's because mysql is started after dovecot. How resolve this, and 
specify to launch dovecot after mysql is running?

Best regards,

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Re: problem with dovecot and mysql at boot

2008-06-16 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Nicolas Letellier wrote:

Hello.

In my rc.conf, I have:
dovecot_enable=YES
mysql_enable=YES

At boot, I have this error:
Jun 16 12:34:16 trinite dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connect failed to 
localhost (panel): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - waiting for 1 seconds before retry

I think it's because mysql is started after dovecot. How resolve this, and 
specify to launch dovecot after mysql is running?

Best regards,

  


Are you sure this is what's happening? I have mysql and dovecot, and 
dovecot starts after mysql in my system.

Try something like

rcorder /etc/rc.d/*   /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*

or

dmesg -a |more

to see the startup order. Do you actually have to start it by hand after 
boot, or does it really start on the retry?

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Move data from 3ware RAID-1 disk to MB disk

2008-06-16 Thread FreeBSD
Hi,

I have FreeBSD 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller hosted at hetzner.de.

Now I want remove 3ware controller, and to stay with motherboard
controller. Is it possible to do without data loss?
I suggest to move one disk to motherboard controller, than boot via
LAN to Linux rescue, and than do dd from 3ware to MB disk.
Is it possible to do so or I will copy 3ware RAID table, and MB disk
will not be bootable?

Kind Regards
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RE: Move data from 3ware RAID-1 disk to MB disk

2008-06-16 Thread Johan Hendriks

Hi,

I have FreeBSD 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller hosted at
hetzner.de.

Now I want remove 3ware controller, and to stay with motherboard
controller. Is it possible to do without data loss?
I suggest to move one disk to motherboard controller, than boot via
LAN to Linux rescue, and than do dd from 3ware to MB disk.
Is it possible to do so or I will copy 3ware RAID table, and MB disk
will not be bootable?

Kind Regards

I freebsd detect the onboard controller and the drives on it, all you
need to do is to make sure /etc/fstab points to the right disks.

Now it probberly points to /dev/twe0s1* and so on if your onboard
controller uses ad then it needs to be changed to /dev/da0s1*

Make sure you have backups!!


Regards,
Johan


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Re: OpenOffice 2.4.1: still getting compilation error in FBSD 7.0-STABLE

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Whitehouse

O. Hartmann wrote:

Hello,

I still get this error since OO 2.4 was offered via ports (OO 2.3 did 
well). I was wondering if someone has no solution to this sticky error.


Can anyone help?

Regards,
Oliver

In case it's any use to you, openoffice.org-3 (openoffice.org-3.0.0.b_1) 
does build with


make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA -DWITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED

also with just

make

openoffice.org-3.0.0.b failed with

make LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB

I'm just testing openoffice.org-3.0.0.b_1 with

make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA -DWITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB


Chris
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Re: Enforce minimal file/ dir permissions

2008-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Mister Olli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi...
 
 on my filer I have to enforce minimal file permission of 664 for files
 and 755 for directorys.
 
 no user should be able to change them to a value less than that.
 
 any ideas how to do this?

Look at MAC and the bsdextended module (filesystem firewall):
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac-bsdextended.html

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Re: internet slowdown

2008-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
In response to prad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 we have 2 freebsd7 servers using pf with static ip addresses through
 our cable company (shaw cable) connecting our internal network to the
 outside. the servers do websites, email and nameserve (bind94)
 
 sometimes one or both become sluggish letting us connect to websites.
 the ping times become 10+ times as long.
 pinging the servers from the outside also slows down.
 
 whenever we reboot the servers, everything is fine again for several
 hours and then the speed starts fluctuating and then eventually
 everything slows down again. (however the several hours is not certain
 either because i just rebooted and everything slowed down after a few
 minutes this time).
 
 i tried /etc/netstart and that speeded things up for a few pings only.
 doing a systat shows the cpu to be idle more than 90% of the time.
 we are presently trying to figure out netstat.
 
 we never experienced this issue with freebsd 6.3 which we ran for
 several months. we've run freebsd7 since the beginning of june and this
 problem seemed to start showing up within the first week.
 
 i am not sure where to look in order to solve this problem -
 specifically which log files might provide some clues regarding the net.
 
 suggestions please?

Is the console responsive when this happens?  It doesn't sound like a
CPU issue to me -- ICMP messages are low enough CPU overhead that the
system would have to be pretty badly bogged for CPU starvation to cause
problems.

What do your network traffic graphs show during the slowdowns?  Perhaps
some sort of network flood occurring?

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stunnel 4.25 and portdowngrade

2008-06-16 Thread Noah

Hi there,

I am in a bit of a peculiar situation.  So I upgraded to stunnel 4.25
now.  but since I upgraded the binary I find that the CPU is tacked and
also eventually the ports it is supposed to be answering for no longer
get answered.  So I decided since 4.24 was working perfectly to
portdowngrade.  I follow the standard procedure and stunnel 4.25 is
installed again instead of stunnel 4.24

any suggestions here?

machine:   6.2-RELEASE-p11


Cheers,

Noah

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RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,

I'd like to ask your advice. We have RAID 1 / SATA turned on in BIOS.

A couple of days ago smartd let me know about a disk problem.

Jun 14 01:13:38 relay kernel: ad12: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 
status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=374468863
Jun 14 01:13:38 relay kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. 
RAID1 array in DEGRADED mode
Jun 14 01:14:19 relay kernel: ad12: WARNING - WRITE_DMA taskqueue 
timeout - completing request directly
Jun 14 01:14:19 relay kernel: ad12: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 freeing 
taskqueue zombie request
Jun 14 01:37:38 relay smartd[683]: Device: /dev/ad12, 1 Currently 
unreadable (pending) sectors
Jun 14 01:37:38 relay smartd[683]: Device: /dev/ad12, 1 Offline 
uncorrectable sectors


If I do smarctl -a /dev/ad12 I get

197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000Old_age   Always 
  -   1
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000Old_age 
Offline  -   1


My understanding is that RAID 1 no longer works because of this error. 
There is a bad sector on HD (Offline uncorrectable sectors) and the best 
we can do is replace the drive? Does it make sense to try to turn RAID 1 
on ignoring this error (however, this is done in BIOS so the machine 
would have to be taken down in order to do that)? It seems serious 
enough for me not to ignore it but then I know close to nothing about HDs.


Many thanks for your suggestions!


Zbigniew Szalbot
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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 A couple of days ago smartd let me know about a disk problem.
 
 Jun 14 01:13:38 relay kernel: ad12: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 
 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=374468863
 Jun 14 01:13:38 relay kernel: ar0: WARNING - mirror protection lost. 
 RAID1 array in DEGRADED mode
 Jun 14 01:14:19 relay kernel: ad12: WARNING - WRITE_DMA taskqueue 
 timeout - completing request directly
 Jun 14 01:14:19 relay kernel: ad12: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 freeing 
 taskqueue zombie request
 Jun 14 01:37:38 relay smartd[683]: Device: /dev/ad12, 1 Currently 
 unreadable (pending) sectors
 Jun 14 01:37:38 relay smartd[683]: Device: /dev/ad12, 1 Offline 
 uncorrectable sectors
 
 If I do smarctl -a /dev/ad12 I get
 
 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000Old_age   Always 
-   1
 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000Old_age 
 Offline  -   1
 
 My understanding is that RAID 1 no longer works because of this error. 
 There is a bad sector on HD (Offline uncorrectable sectors) and the best 
 we can do is replace the drive? Does it make sense to try to turn RAID 1 
 on ignoring this error (however, this is done in BIOS so the machine 
 would have to be taken down in order to do that)? It seems serious 
 enough for me not to ignore it but then I know close to nothing about HDs.

Replace the hard drive.  Every modern hard drive keeps extra space available
to remap bad sectors.  This happens magically behind the scenes without
you ever knowing about it.  Once you've hit uncorrectable errors, it means
your re-mappable sectors are used up, and that means the drive is on its
last legs.

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Re: Move data from 3ware RAID-1 disk to MB disk

2008-06-16 Thread Stanislav
Dear Johan,

But hetzner support told me that data will be lost if connect disk to
motherboard controller:
If we connect the HDD's on the Mainboard-controller, they were detected as
empty HDD, because the controller write the sectors in a other way, like the
RAID-controler!

But I think that maybe 3ware writes their RAID table somewhere near MBR record.
So maybe I have to rewrite MBR and that disk will work on motherboard
controller?

I have backups, but this is production system, and I want to switch to
MB controller with minimal downtime.

Kind Regards

2008/6/16 Johan Hendriks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi,

I have FreeBSD 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller hosted at
hetzner.de.

Now I want remove 3ware controller, and to stay with motherboard
controller. Is it possible to do without data loss?
I suggest to move one disk to motherboard controller, than boot via
LAN to Linux rescue, and than do dd from 3ware to MB disk.
Is it possible to do so or I will copy 3ware RAID table, and MB disk
will not be bootable?

Kind Regards

 I freebsd detect the onboard controller and the drives on it, all you
 need to do is to make sure /etc/fstab points to the right disks.

 Now it probberly points to /dev/twe0s1* and so on if your onboard
 controller uses ad then it needs to be changed to /dev/da0s1*

 Make sure you have backups!!


 Regards,
 Johan





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Re: Move data from 3ware RAID-1 disk to MB disk

2008-06-16 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 05:19:43PM +0400, Stanislav wrote:
 Dear Johan,
 
 But hetzner support told me that data will be lost if connect disk to
 motherboard controller:
 If we connect the HDD's on the Mainboard-controller, they were detected as
 empty HDD, because the controller write the sectors in a other way, like the
 RAID-controler!

That is probably correct.

 
 But I think that maybe 3ware writes their RAID table somewhere near MBR 
 record.

Maybe.

 So maybe I have to rewrite MBR and that disk will work on motherboard
 controller?

Maybe, but you don't know how you should rewrite the MBR (i.e. what should
be written to it), and neither do I (and probably not the people at hetzner
either.) You could try asking the 3Ware people directly, but I doubt they
support such an operation.

 
 I have backups, but this is production system, and I want to switch to
 MB controller with minimal downtime.

That might not be possible.  One of the drawbacks with real hardware-RAID
is that each controller (or at least each manufacturer) has its own format
and it is usually not possible to move disks between different controllers
without losing the data on them.


 
 Kind Regards
 
 2008/6/16 Johan Hendriks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have FreeBSD 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller hosted at
 hetzner.de.
 
 Now I want remove 3ware controller, and to stay with motherboard
 controller. Is it possible to do without data loss?
 I suggest to move one disk to motherboard controller, than boot via
 LAN to Linux rescue, and than do dd from 3ware to MB disk.
 Is it possible to do so or I will copy 3ware RAID table, and MB disk
 will not be bootable?
 
 Kind Regards
 
  I freebsd detect the onboard controller and the drives on it, all you
  need to do is to make sure /etc/fstab points to the right disks.
 
  Now it probberly points to /dev/twe0s1* and so on if your onboard
  controller uses ad then it needs to be changed to /dev/da0s1*
 
  Make sure you have backups!!
 




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Re: problem with dovecot and mysql at boot

2008-06-16 Thread Nicolas Letellier
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:08:40 +0300
Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nicolas Letellier wrote:
  Hello.
 
  In my rc.conf, I have:
  dovecot_enable=YES
  mysql_enable=YES
 
  At boot, I have this error:
  Jun 16 12:34:16 trinite dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connect 
  failed to localhost (panel): Can't connect to local MySQL server through 
  socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - waiting for 1 seconds before retry
 
  I think it's because mysql is started after dovecot. How resolve this, and 
  specify to launch dovecot after mysql is running?
 
  Best regards,
 

 
 Are you sure this is what's happening? I have mysql and dovecot, and 
 dovecot starts after mysql in my system.
 Try something like
 
 rcorder /etc/rc.d/*   /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*
 
 or
 
 dmesg -a |more
 
 to see the startup order. Do you actually have to start it by hand after 
 boot, or does it really start on the retry?
Ok, the problem is due to my my.cnf. However, I cannot explain which value of 
this file causes this problem. I deleted it, and after reboot, the probleme has 
disapeared. I re-cp it, and reboot, and the problem was not here. I think 
sometimes, and with my.cnf options, mysql is too slow to be launched, and then, 
dovecot and others applications could have a problem.

So, I cannot explain this problem. On the other hand, it was not -big- problem, 
just a warning.
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Re: OpenOffice 2.4.1: still getting compilation error in FBSD 7.0-STABLE

2008-06-16 Thread Mon Si
Chris Whitehouse wrote the following, On 06/16/08 14:20:
 O. Hartmann wrote:
 Hello,

 I still get this error since OO 2.4 was offered via ports (OO 2.3
 did well). I was wondering if someone has no solution to this
 sticky error.

 Can anyone help?

 Regards,
 Oliver

 In case it's any use to you, openoffice.org-3
 (openoffice.org-3.0.0.b_1) does build with
 
 make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA -DWITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED
 
 also with just
 
 make
 
 openoffice.org-3.0.0.b failed with
 
 make LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB
 
 I'm just testing openoffice.org-3.0.0.b_1 with
 
 make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA -DWITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB
 
 
 Chris

for me (fbsd 7.0) ooo2.4.1 (OOo_OOH680_m17_source.tar.bz2) and
ooo-3-devel (OOo_DEV300_m19_source.tar.bz2) both compile and work
well. I did upgrade via:

portugrade -m 'LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB -DWITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED
-DWITHOUT_MOZILLA'

Cheers,
Simon
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Re: Enforce minimal file/ dir permissions

2008-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Bill Moran wrote:


Look at MAC and the bsdextended module (filesystem firewall):
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac-bsdextended.html


I've recently been looking at those myself, and while I think that I  
have developed some limited understanding in principle about how MAC  
works, I need a great deal more practical guidance.  Is there some  
extended tutorial with cookbook or other resource that will actually  
help someone who doesn't fully grok this work out a policy and rules  
that will do more good than harm?


Yes, I've used google, but haven't yet come across what I need.

Cheers,

-j


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Portaudit - auditfile.tbz failure of download.

2008-06-16 Thread Ezat Tizani
Hello all,

anyone having issues with portaudit download of the auditfile.tbz?  mine
seems to just stall.

I'm using portaudit .0.5.2 with -Fda switches.

Thanks

Ezat


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RE: problem with dovecot and mysql at boot

2008-06-16 Thread Johan Hendriks


 Nicolas Letellier wrote:
  Hello.
 
  In my rc.conf, I have:
  dovecot_enable=YES
  mysql_enable=YES
 
  At boot, I have this error:
  Jun 16 12:34:16 trinite dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql:
Connect failed to localhost (panel): Can't connect to local MySQL server
through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - waiting for 1 seconds before
retry
 
  I think it's because mysql is started after dovecot. How resolve
this, and specify to launch dovecot after mysql is running?
 
  Best regards,
 

 
 Are you sure this is what's happening? I have mysql and dovecot, and 
 dovecot starts after mysql in my system.
 Try something like
 
 rcorder /etc/rc.d/*   /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*
 
 or
 
 dmesg -a |more
 
 to see the startup order. Do you actually have to start it by hand
after 
 boot, or does it really start on the retry?
Ok, the problem is due to my my.cnf. However, I cannot explain which
value of this file causes this problem. I deleted it, and after reboot,
the probleme has disapeared. I re-cp it, and reboot, and the problem
was not here. I think sometimes, and with my.cnf options, mysql is too
slow to be launched, and then, dovecot and others applications could
have a problem.

So, I cannot explain this problem. On the other hand, it was not -big-
problem, just a warning.

Does you're my.cnf file contains an entry that needs to be resolved by
dns and if so can it be resolved!
Maybe named is not started before mysql.
Try setting that entry in /etc/hosts.

Regards,
Johan
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FreeBSD+mpd freeze after connection establishing

2008-06-16 Thread Alexey A. Ukhov

Hello, dear guru.

I have problem with subj.
After start mpd as client and connecting to other mpd-server FreeBSD freeze.
No any log messages, kernel panics, etc.

Here is part of mpd.conf:
pptp_client:
   create bundle static B1
   set iface route default
   set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0

   create link static L1 pptp
   set link action bundle B1
   set auth authname auk
   set auth password answerss
   set link max-redial 0
   set link mtu 1460
   set link keep-alive 20 75
   set pptp peer startext.tomsk.ru
   set pptp disable windowing
   open

Some ideas what could it be?

Thanks in advance,
Alexey A. Ukhov
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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Dear all,

Bill Moran:


My understanding is that RAID 1 no longer works because of this
error. There is a bad sector on HD (Offline uncorrectable sectors)
and the best we can do is replace the drive? Does it make sense to
try to turn RAID 1 on ignoring this error (however, this is done in
BIOS so the machine would have to be taken down in order to do
that)? It seems serious enough for me not to ignore it but then I
know close to nothing about HDs.


Replace the hard drive.  Every modern hard drive keeps extra space
available to remap bad sectors.  This happens magically behind the
scenes without you ever knowing about it.  Once you've hit
uncorrectable errors, it means your re-mappable sectors are used
up, and that means the drive is on its last legs.



Thank you Bill. One last question. RAID 1 is off now (degraded) and the 
hosting company is asking if I can try to bring it up (to check if it 
will work). They have given me this link 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/raid.html. The problem is 
that as far as I understand we are not using gmirror but RAID 1 turned 
on in BIOS (although it is also software-based).


Thank you very much in advance!

Zbigniew Szalbot
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Re: problem with dovecot and mysql at boot

2008-06-16 Thread Nicolas Letellier
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:59:21 +0200
Johan Hendriks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does you're my.cnf file contains an entry that needs to be resolved by
 dns and if so can it be resolved!
 Maybe named is not started before mysql.
 Try setting that entry in /etc/hosts.
No, it does not contains any domains. It's just the my-medium.cnf.

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Re: [SOLVED] FreeBSD and Greek support

2008-06-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:37:38 +0300, Dimitris Giakoudis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 Hi Dimitris.  Thanks for taking the time to post a [SOLVED] message.

 I've prepared a proposed change/addition to the article, which is now
 online in diff/patch format at:

 http://hg.hellug.gr/freebsd/doc-el/rev/96b47edf541f

 The text is in Greek, so it would be nice if you could review the
 section I added (the 'green' lines).  Then if both you and Nikos like
 the changes, I can commit it to the main CVS tree too.

 Hi Giorgos.
 I like the changes you made and I think you should include this
 part to the article. It will help many Greek users out there :)

Committed, thanks!  The changes should appear online after the
next automated rebuild of our docs :)

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Re: FreeBSD+mpd freeze after connection establishing

2008-06-16 Thread Alexey A. Ukhov

also want to add:

it looks that system itself works if gateway was not changed.
Example - after connecting I have new interface ng0, but old gateway

# ifconfig ng0
ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 
mtu 1460

   inet 10.10.1.201 -- 10.10.1.100 netmask 0x

As only I assign 10.10.1.100 as defaul gateway system freeze after first 
packet.


Alexey
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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Dear all,

Bill Moran:


My understanding is that RAID 1 no longer works because of this
error. There is a bad sector on HD (Offline uncorrectable sectors)
and the best we can do is replace the drive? Does it make sense to
try to turn RAID 1 on ignoring this error (however, this is done in
BIOS so the machine would have to be taken down in order to do
that)? It seems serious enough for me not to ignore it but then I
know close to nothing about HDs.


Replace the hard drive.  Every modern hard drive keeps extra space
available to remap bad sectors.  This happens magically behind the
scenes without you ever knowing about it.  Once you've hit
uncorrectable errors, it means your re-mappable sectors are used
up, and that means the drive is on its last legs.



Thank you Bill. One last question. RAID 1 is off now (degraded) and 
the hosting company is asking if I can try to bring it up (to check if 
it will work). They have given me this link 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/raid.html. The problem is 
that as far as I understand we are not using gmirror but RAID 1 turned 
on in BIOS (although it is also software-based).


Thank you very much in advance!

Zbigniew Szalbot
www.lc-words.com



Hey Zbigniew ;)

I understand you are using the ataraid (ar) driver. I always use 
gmirror, but it seems they pointed you to the right place in the handbook.

Look at section 18.4.3 - you would probably need to do something like:

# atacontrol list

From the list, get the ATA channel for /dev/ad12 which is the faulty 
one, e.g. ata2


Detach and re-attach (maybe this will reset the state of the drive)

atacontrol detach ata2
atacontrol attach ata2

atacontrol addspare ar0 ad12
atacontrol rebuild ar0

I've done more or less the same with gmirror when I had similar messages 
a few months back. It may work for a few hours/days but it will fail 
again. Have it replaced ASAP.


Manolis

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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Replace the hard drive.  Every modern hard drive keeps extra space available
to remap bad sectors.  This happens magically behind the scenes without
you ever knowing about it.  Once you've hit uncorrectable errors, it means


no. usually it means that there was an error when writing that sector, and 
later there is an error on read. madia may be good (quite often is).


if you would be right i wouldn't have my disk running one year after 
having whole block of uncorrectable errors


i just rewrote that blocks and they are readable.

drive HAS TO know about bad media to remap, and no HDDs today perform 
verification

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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello Manolis,

I understand you are using the ataraid (ar) driver. I always use 
gmirror, but it seems they pointed you to the right place in the handbook.

Look at section 18.4.3 - you would probably need to do something like:

# atacontrol list


ATA channel 6:
Master: ad12 ST3250310NS/SN04 Serial ATA v1.0
Slave:   no device present

ATA channel 0:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 1:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 2:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 3:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 4:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 5:
Master: ad10 ST3250310NS/SN04 Serial ATA v1.0
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 6:
Master: ad12 ST3250310NS/SN04 Serial ATA v1.0
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 7:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 8:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 9:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 10:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present

So in this case it would be ata6? Sorry for asking confirmation for 
every step but it is just so new to me!


And thanks for the list of steps to perform!

Zbigniew Szalbot
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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 04:41:15PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
  Replace the hard drive.  Every modern hard drive keeps extra space available
  to remap bad sectors.  This happens magically behind the scenes without
  you ever knowing about it.  Once you've hit uncorrectable errors, it means
 
 no. usually it means that there was an error when writing that sector, and 
 later there is an error on read. madia may be good (quite often is).
 
 if you would be right i wouldn't have my disk running one year after 
 having whole block of uncorrectable errors
 
 i just rewrote that blocks and they are readable.
 
 drive HAS TO know about bad media to remap, and no HDDs today perform 
 verification


Also, remapping can only happen if the error is encountered on a write
operation.  If there is an error on read the drive cannot remap, since
it does not know what data should be there.
(A good RAID implementation could however handle a read error by reading
the corresponding sector from the other disks(s) in the array and write it
back to the failing disk, probably causing it to remap the block.)

(Write errors is however usually a strong indication that the drive should
be replaced ASAP.)



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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Hello Manolis,

I understand you are using the ataraid (ar) driver. I always use 
gmirror, but it seems they pointed you to the right place in the 
handbook.

Look at section 18.4.3 - you would probably need to do something like:

# atacontrol list


ATA channel 6:
Master: ad12 ST3250310NS/SN04 Serial ATA v1.0
Slave:   no device present

ATA channel 0:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 1:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 2:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 3:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 4:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 5:
Master: ad10 ST3250310NS/SN04 Serial ATA v1.0
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 6:
Master: ad12 ST3250310NS/SN04 Serial ATA v1.0
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 7:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 8:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 9:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 10:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present

So in this case it would be ata6? Sorry for asking confirmation for 
every step but it is just so new to me!


And thanks for the list of steps to perform!

Zbigniew Szalbot



Yes, it is ata6
Give it a try, if the problem is serious enough, it will probably not 
even finish rebuild :(

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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar


(Write errors is however usually a strong indication that the drive should
be replaced ASAP.)


he got read error... but your sentence alone is true of course.
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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hi Manolis,



Yes, it is ata6
Give it a try, if the problem is serious enough, it will probably not 
even finish rebuild :(


Detaching and ataching went well but when I issued
atacontrol addspare ar0 ad12
it said
atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATARAIDADDSPARE): Device busy

I am not sure if that means I should wait or rather that it is mission 
impossible?


Thanks!

Zbigniew Szalbot


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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Hi Manolis,



Yes, it is ata6
Give it a try, if the problem is serious enough, it will probably not 
even finish rebuild :(


Detaching and ataching went well but when I issued
atacontrol addspare ar0 ad12
it said
atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATARAIDADDSPARE): Device busy

I am not sure if that means I should wait or rather that it is mission 
impossible?


Thanks!

Zbigniew Szalbot


Try

atacontrol status ar0

Since you haven't actually removed/replaced ad12 you may simply have to 
continue with:


atacontrol rebuild ar0

but see what status says first.
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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,

Manolis Kiagias:


Try

atacontrol status ar0


ar0: ATA RAID1 status: DEGRADED
 subdisks:
   0 ad10 ONLINE
   1  MISSING

Since you haven't actually removed/replaced ad12 you may simply have to 
continue with:


atacontrol rebuild ar0


I'll try it now. Thanks!

Zbigniew Szalbot


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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,

Manolis Kiagias:


Try

atacontrol status ar0

Since you haven't actually removed/replaced ad12 you may simply have to 
continue with:


atacontrol rebuild ar0


atacontrol rebuild ar0
atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATARAIDREBUILD): Input/output error

So it looks like it cannot be done?

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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Hello,

Manolis Kiagias:


Try

atacontrol status ar0


ar0: ATA RAID1 status: DEGRADED
 subdisks:
   0 ad10 ONLINE
   1  MISSING

Since you haven't actually removed/replaced ad12 you may simply have 
to continue with:


atacontrol rebuild ar0


I'll try it now. Thanks!

Zbigniew Szalbot


Ok, ad12 is missing, so it seems it was detached but not reattached.

try again:

atacontrol attach ata6

If this succeeds,

atacontrol addspare ar0 ad12
atacontrol rebuild ar0

If attach fails, then someone at the remote site may have to  physically 
detach / reattach the disk in question.

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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello one last time,

Manolis Kiagias:


Ok, ad12 is missing, so it seems it was detached but not reattached.

try again:

atacontrol attach ata6


$ sudo atacontrol attach ata6
atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATAATTACH): File exists

Thank you all for a lot of suggestions!


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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Hello one last time,

Manolis Kiagias:


Ok, ad12 is missing, so it seems it was detached but not reattached.

try again:

atacontrol attach ata6


$ sudo atacontrol attach ata6
atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATAATTACH): File exists

Thank you all for a lot of suggestions!


Zbigniew Szalbot

As a last resort, you could also try:

atacontrol reinit ata6

and try reattaching again
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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,



As a last resort, you could also try:

atacontrol reinit ata6

and try reattaching again


Thank you Manolis - you have been more than patient with me! 
Unfortunately, the result is still the same. OK. I am going to ask our 
hosting company to replace the drive. Again, many thanks for your help!


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Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server?

2008-06-16 Thread Oliver Fromme
Just a small hint:  You should configure your MUA to
produce proper attribution lines.

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  Oliver Fromme wrote:
   A broken processor usually results in random crashes, not
   silent data corruption.
  
  result in both in my practice. with broken companion chips (chipset) it's 
  silent data corruption is common, while crashes can be under specific 
  cases. that's from what i've got.

I've never had a broken processor that did not result in
crashes, but maybe I've been just lucky.  :-)

or even calculate checksum right of wrong data generated by badly
operating programs.
   
   What do you mean, wrong data generated by programs?  If
  
  wrong data generated by program because of hardware problem.

In that case the input to the program would have to be bad
already.  A broken disk (or controller) doesn't cause a
program to produce wrong output, unless it feeds bad input
to the program.  And ZFS would catch that.

   You usually notice it when it's too late and the last
   good backup media was already recycled.
  
  not that bad, but of course - i make backups.

But you don't keep every backup forever, do you?  (I.e.
it would rather be an archive instead of a backup.  That
would cost a lot of space.)

   In my case it was a disk with media surface errors, and
   the disk failed to report the error properly to the OS.
   Instead it just returned bad data.
  
  so i am just happy to never having it, while normal disk failures are 
  quite common..

Yes, fortunately normal disk failures (i.e. reported to
the OS so they are clearly noticed) are more common than
silent corruption.

ZFS may help detect it, or it may not. if it helped for you.
   
   Please stop spreading FUD.  There is no may or may not.
   If a disk returns bad data, ZFS _will_ detect it.
  
  please read more carefully. i didn't say it.

You did.  I quoted it.

  i just say that disk returning bad data is very rare case,

Yes, fortunately it is rare.  But it does happen.  And when
it happens, ou are in very serious trouble.

For example, on the -stable list Goran Lowkrantz reported
on Saturday a corruption on one of his file systems due to
a flipped bit in a directory node.  He didn't use ZFS, but
was lucky to notice the problem because of strange size
entries in that directory.  He had to use fsdb(8) surgery
to fix it.  Personally I would recommend to not use that
disk anymore, because you never know in what other files
bits could be flipped, without you noticing so easily.
Well, or use ZFS on that disk -- then you're guaranteed
to notice.

  lots of 
  other - more frequent - hardware problems will not be detected.

That's speculative.  Personally I don't think so.

  if you like to give lots of CPU power and disk bandwidth for calculation 

You're spreading FUD again.  The cpu time required for
generating and verifying the checksums is very low, and
the disk bandwidth is almost zero.

  i just say it doesn't make lot of protection against bad hardware, not 
  worth the expense.

Well, if the integrity of your files isn't important to
you ...

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located?

2008-06-16 Thread Oliver Fromme
Gilles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
  rune the find command. Is there a database that I could query
  instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?

In addition to the ways that others have suggested, there
is also this one:

http://www.secnetix.de/tools/porgle/

Best regards
   Oliver

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and when it's bad, it's better than nothing.
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Re: High load, lots of free memory and processes in devfs state

2008-06-16 Thread Stut

Does anybody have any ideas about this problem?

So far today I've tried moving memcache off this machine, played with  
a few settings in httpd.conf but nothing seems to make a difference.


Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm rapidly losing what's left  
of my hair!!


-Stut

On 15 Jun 2008, at 18:18, Stut wrote:


Hi,

I'm having a serious problem with one of my FreeBSD servers. It runs  
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, Apache 2.2.8 and PHP 5.2.1. I've checked the  
hardware and it's all OK. There's approximately 400 Apache processes  
running and a 2GB memcached instance.


Up until last weekend this server was working perfectly at a level  
of HTTP traffic higher than it's currently getting. Last week our  
database server (separate server) died and had to be rebuilt. While  
this was being done this server hosted the database. This has now  
been completed and the PHP app is pointing back at the dedicated DB  
server.


Top shows the following...

last pid: 26838;  load averages: 10.22, 14.06, 13.55 up  
2+00:34:47  18:03:43

619 processes: 1 running, 618 sleeping
CPU states:  4.9% user,  0.0% nice, 24.8% system,  0.4% interrupt,  
70.0% idle
Mem: 2241M Active, 2718M Inact, 462M Wired, 394M Cache, 214M Buf,  
1747M Free

Swap: 8192M Total, 124K Used, 8192M Free

 PIDUIDTHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU  
COMMAND
26807 80  1  -40 79892K  9996K devfs  0   0:00  2.81%  
httpd
26797 80  1  -40 82376K 12592K devfs  1   0:00  2.19%  
httpd
26791 80  1  -40 82376K 12636K devfs  0   0:00  1.85%  
httpd
26783 80  1  -40 82392K 12640K devfs  3   0:00  1.84%  
httpd
26780 80  1  -40 79892K 10036K devfs  0   0:00  1.51%  
httpd
26801 80  1  -40 81292K 11104K devfs  3   0:00  1.50%  
httpd
26786 80  1  -40 80456K 10796K devfs  1   0:00  1.41%  
httpd
26784 80  1  -40 79892K 10036K devfs  0   0:00  1.41%  
httpd
26785 80  1  -40 81304K 11228K devfs  0   0:00  1.41%  
httpd
26763 80  1  -40 83220K 13752K devfs  1   0:00  1.24%  
httpd

...etc...

As you can see there's plenty of free memory and the CPU is 70% idle  
yet the load is sky high. When it's like this it's impossible to do  
anything - every command can take anything from a few seconds to a  
few minutes to respond - and the web user experience is shot to  
pieces. I can't find a reference that explains what the devfs state  
indicates.


SA shows the following...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# sa
 150107   242633.24re 1548.32cp   13avio  801k
  31174   192785.02re 1488.13cp   32avio  502k   httpd*
   7047 6286.71re   21.53cp   67avio 2854k   php
   7703  164.83re   14.65cp3avio  743k   convert
  8   19.82re9.47cp 5016avio1k   gzip
   7703  177.66re7.70cp2avio 1352k   composite
  4   18.90re3.69cp1avio3k   mysqldump
  90.80re0.76cp   23avio  144k   bzip2
  64.16re0.53cp22998avio 1731k   find
   2890 1126.31re0.45cp0avio   175988k   perl*
   5415   40.83re0.32cp   11avio   123676k   rateup
   300914948.72re0.32cp3avio 9512k   smtp
247 1812.85re0.27cp  440avio  945k   cleanup
  7  163.69re0.18cp0avio  105k   top
167 1809.71re0.11cp  183avio 1117k   pickup
   2667  797.34re0.07cp0avio29671k   trivial- 
rewrite

   1820   96.40re0.02cp0avio   141901k   ps
 17 1482.98re0.02cp1avio 1083k   sshd*
  35629 6318.10re0.01cp0avio 18016816k   sh
  15232  391.68re0.01cp0avio   935430k   sendmail
599 1223.30re0.01cp   28avio44065k   bounce
  70.95re0.01cp8avio  596k   sa
 35 1952.66re0.01cp   11avio16013k   ***other
 250.07re0.01cp   18avio 1447k   rm
  15232  203.94re0.00cp7avio  2994436k   postdrop
 611.20re0.00cp5avio34481k   git
  3  123.65re0.00cp   12avio  796k   mail
 92  345.77re0.00cp0avio34405k   scache
 312.13re0.00cp   66avio 7115k   newsyslog
  6 2140.32re0.00cp   14avio 6835k   bash
   5463  290.01re0.00cp0avio  2584397k   grep
  5 1479.06re0.00cp   17avio 3878k   sshd
   1830   99.75re0.00cp0avio  1221440k   wc
  42.86re0.00cp2avio13472k   less
  30.46re0.00cp0avio10048k   pgrep
 68   27.44re0.00cp0avio69632k   sh*
  35.06re0.00cp1avio

Re: how to view environment variables

2008-06-16 Thread Oliver Fromme
Chris Whitehouse wrote:
  sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various environment 
  variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find out what they 
  are set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm using standard csh and 
FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and ntfs-3g works except it 
  seems very slow.

The env command prints the environment variables of your
current shell (should work with any shell).

To view the environment variables of another process, use
something like ps -ewwp 1234 (1234 being the PID number).
This requires PROCFS to be mounted on /proc.

Best regards
   Oliver

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The scanf() function is a large and complex beast that often does
something almost but not quite entirely unlike what you desired.
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Re: OpenOffice 2.4.1: still getting compilation error

2008-06-16 Thread Camilo Reyes
I think your best bet (if you want to use OO) is to use PC-BSD. There is
a PBI package already available for it.

Just my two cents,

Bono Vince Malum
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-Camilo

 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:44:55 +
 From: O. Hartmann
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OpenOffice 2.4.1: still getting compilation error
 in FBSD
   7.0-STABLE
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15;
 format=flowed
 
 Hello,
 
 I still get this error since OO 2.4 was offered via ports
 (OO 2.3 did 
 well). I was wondering if someone has no solution to this
 sticky error.
 
 Can anyone help?
 
 Regards,
 Oliver
 
 rm -f ../unxfbsdx.pro/lib/check_libvcl680fx.so
 mv ../unxfbsdx.pro/lib/libvcl680fx.so 
 ../unxfbsdx.pro/lib/check_libvcl680fx.so
 /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2/work/OOH680_m17/solenv/bin/checkdll.sh
 
 -L../unxfbsdx.pro/lib 
 -L/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2/work/OOH680_m17/solver/680/unxfbsdx.pro/lib
 
   ../unxfbsdx.pro/lib/check_libvcl680fx.so
 Checking DLL ../unxfbsdx.pro/lib/check_libvcl680fx.so ...:
 ERROR: 
 ../unxfbsdx.pro/lib/check_libvcl680fx.so: Undefined symbol 
 _ZNK7icu_3_814LEFontInstance17getDynamicClassIDEv
 dmake:  Error code 1, while making
 '../unxfbsdx.pro/lib/libvcl680fx.so'
 ---* tg_merge.mk *---
 
 ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making 
 /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2/work/OOH680_m17/vcl/util
 dmake:  Error code 1, while making
 'build_instsetoo_native'
 ---*  *---
 *** Error code 255
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2.
 


  
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Re: FreeBSD+mpd freeze after connection establishing

2008-06-16 Thread Alexander Motin

Alexey A. Ukhov wrote:

I have problem with subj.
After start mpd as client and connecting to other mpd-server FreeBSD 
freeze.

No any log messages, kernel panics, etc.


One of the most popular PPTP client problems is the routing loop created 
by using same server address inside and outside of tunnel. In such case 
address inside of tunnel with /32 netmask usually more preferred for the 
system and it makes all tunnel traffic wrap inside tunnel itself causing 
unpredictable results.


Addresses inside and outside of tunnel _MUST_BE_DIFFERENT_!

In some cases problem can be workarounded with some firewall forwarding 
or some other alike techniques.


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Re: RAID 1 / disk error / Offline uncorrectable sectors

2008-06-16 Thread Oliver Fromme
Bill Moran wrote:
  Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
   [...]
   Jun 14 01:13:38 relay kernel: ad12: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 
   status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=374468863
  [...]
  
  Replace the hard drive.  Every modern hard drive keeps extra space available
  to remap bad sectors.  This happens magically behind the scenes without
  you ever knowing about it.  Once you've hit uncorrectable errors, it means
  your re-mappable sectors are used up, and that means the drive is on its
  last legs.

That's not completely true.

When a disk drive encounters a bad sector during a read
operation, it will remember the bad sector address, but
it is unable to transparently remap the sector because it
doesn't know that correct contents of the sector.  So it
has to report the unrecoverable error to the OS, even if
there's still plenty of space for remapping sectors.

Upon the next write operation to a sector marked as bad,
the drive will finally remap it and write the data to a
spare location.

Therefore, getting uncorrectable errors does *not* mean
that the drive has used up its spare sectors.  You only
need to overwrite the bad sectors (e.g. with dd(1))so the
drive gets a chance to remap them.

Of course, it might still be a good idea to replace the
drive anyway.  It depends on the cause of the bad sectors
(mechanical or electrical).

If you had a head crash (caused by mechanical impact or
a media manufacturing error or whatever), it is possible
that it caused debris within the drive which will cause
further bad blocks.  This can lead to a snowball effect
that can really exhaust all spare sectors quickly.

On the other hand, if the bad sectors where caused by
a voltage spike, a power failure or similar, chances are
that the drive is fine and you can continue to use it
after making sure that the bad sectors are remapped
(by overwriting them, see above).

Finally, there is also the possibility that the problem
is caused by a bug in the drive's firmware.  If that's
the case, I would be inclined to replace the drive with
a different brand.  However, I guess all drives have
bugs ...  the question is whether they affect you.
Another question is whether it's possible at all to
find out what caused the problem in the first place.

Best regards
   Oliver

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What is this talk of 'release'?  We do not make software 'releases'.
Our software 'escapes', leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality
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Re: Enforce minimal file/ dir permissions

2008-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Jeffrey Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Bill Moran wrote:
 
  Look at MAC and the bsdextended module (filesystem firewall):
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac.html
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac-bsdextended.html
 
 I've recently been looking at those myself, and while I think that I  
 have developed some limited understanding in principle about how MAC  
 works, I need a great deal more practical guidance.  Is there some  
 extended tutorial with cookbook or other resource that will actually  
 help someone who doesn't fully grok this work out a policy and rules  
 that will do more good than harm?

In my experience, there is a tremendous dearth of information on this
topic, and it's not much better on the Linux side where MAC is call
SE Linux.

At this time, I think you're going to have to rely on your own
experimenting to fully understand how everything works.  Hopefully
that will improve with time.

-- 
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http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: High load, lots of free memory and processes in devfs state

2008-06-16 Thread Oliver Fromme
Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm having a serious problem with one of my FreeBSD servers. It runs  
  FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, Apache 2.2.8 and PHP 5.2.1. I've checked the  
  hardware and it's all OK. There's approximately 400 Apache processes  
  running and a 2GB memcached instance.
  
  Up until last weekend this server was working perfectly at a level  
  of HTTP traffic higher than it's currently getting. Last week our  
  database server (separate server) died and had to be rebuilt. While  
  this was being done this server hosted the database. This has now  
  been completed and the PHP app is pointing back at the dedicated DB  
  server.
  
  Top shows the following...
  
  last pid: 26838;  load averages: 10.22, 14.06, 13.55 up  
  2+00:34:47  18:03:43
  619 processes: 1 running, 618 sleeping
  CPU states:  4.9% user,  0.0% nice, 24.8% system,  0.4% interrupt,  
  70.0% idle
  Mem: 2241M Active, 2718M Inact, 462M Wired, 394M Cache, 214M Buf,  
  1747M Free
  Swap: 8192M Total, 124K Used, 8192M Free
  
   PIDUIDTHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU  
  COMMAND
  26807 80  1  -40 79892K  9996K devfs  0   0:00  2.81%  
  httpd
  26797 80  1  -40 82376K 12592K devfs  1   0:00  2.19%  
  httpd
  26791 80  1  -40 82376K 12636K devfs  0   0:00  1.85%  
  httpd
  26783 80  1  -40 82392K 12640K devfs  3   0:00  1.84%  
  httpd
  [...]

Please let vmstat 5 run for a minute ...  Anything
that looks unusual?  Have you checked dmesg?
Is this FreeBSD i386 (32bit) or amd64 (64bit)?

Have you considered updating?  6.2-RELEASE isn't the
freshest anymore.  You might even consider going to
7-stable and using the new ULE scheduler which copes
better with SMP servers.

  As you can see there's plenty of free memory and the CPU is 70% idle  
  yet the load is sky high.

Well, load 10 isn't that much for a 4-way SMP system.

Best regards
   Oliver

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NATD crash in 7.0-stable

2008-06-16 Thread Dave Robison

Hiya,

I'm having problems with NAT crashing my FreeBSD box. This never 
happened in 6.x but in 7.x it's predictable for me. Any time I use 
either of my two NICs for my internal net my FreeBSD box hangs and 
requires power cycling to reboot.


My guess is that some option changed between 6.x and 7.x and I simply 
missed it, or that I have something configured completely improperly, 
but after hours of tinkering I've yet to fix the problem.


Initially I figured it might be NAT in PPP which was causing the 
problem, so I backed it out and used NATD but the same thing happens to me.


uname info: 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jun 15 21:35:13 PDT 2008

my ipfw rules:

00100   0  0 check-state
00200 1678471  126337051 skipto 3000 ip from any to 69.229.113.78 in 
recv tun0

00210   0  0 deny log ip from any to any in recv vr0
03000  61   4548 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
03100   0  0 deny ip from 192.168.32.0/24 to any in recv vr0
*snip*

My FreeBSD box runs PPP on vr0 and my lan runs on fxp0. I've switched 
them and the freeze-up continues. The host on my LAN is 192.168.32.10, 
my internal interface is 192.168.32.1 and my external interface is 
69.229.113.78.


my /usr/local/etc/natd.conf:

#unregistered_only
#log_ipfw_denied
redirect_address192.168.32.10   69.229.113.74
#punch_fw   25:50
interface   fxp0

I commented out a few lines to test it bare-bones. No luck.

I added these to my kernel config, which is otherwise a very standard 
GENERIC kernel config:


options IPFIREWALL
options IPDIVERT

the related entries from /etc/rc.conf:

ppp_enable=YES
ppp_mode=ddial
#ppp_nat=YES
ppp_profile=sbc
gateway_enable=YES

my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:

default:
set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.0/16

sbc:
set device PPPoE:vr0
set authname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
set authkey MYPASSWORD
set dial
set login
set mru 1492
set mtu 1492
accept lqr
set crtscts off
set speed sync
enable dns
add default HISADDR
set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.0/16

# NAT
nat enable yes
nat log no
# nat same_ports yes
# nat unregistered_only yes
nat addr 192.168.32.10 69.229.113.73

Again, NAT is turned off in PPP at the moment and I'm using /sbin/natd

Machine connects to the net and works great until I try to use the LAN. 
the LAN works for a few seconds, maybe serving up a web page or two and 
then...freeze up.


I never saw the machine recover from this situation though there is a 
crash dump in /var/crash from late last night after I wasn't paying 
attention:


# ls -lart /var/crash
total 218618
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  5 Feb 24 09:53 minfree
drwxr-xr-x  25 root  wheel512 Jun 15 23:12 ..
-rw---   1 root  wheel462 Jun 15 23:12 info.0
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  2 Jun 15 23:12 bounds
drwxr-x---   2 root  wheel512 Jun 15 23:12 .
-rw---   1 root  wheel  225533952 Jun 15 23:12 vmcore.0

here is my dmesg:

Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jun 15 21:35:13 PDT 2008
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/bigshed
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Sempron(tm)   3000+ (1999.79-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x6a0  Stepping = 0
 
Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE

 AMD Features=0xc0480800SYSCALL,MP,MMX+,3DNow!+,3DNow!
real memory  = 2080309248 (1983 MB)
avail memory = 2025955328 (1932 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: HP-CPC AWRDACPI
ioapic0 Version 0.3 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
acpi0: HP-CPC AWRDACPI on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, 7bef (3) failed
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: VIA 8235/8237 (Apollo KM400/KM400A) host to PCI bridge on hostb0
agp0: aperture size is 64M
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem 
0xe400-0xe7ff,0xe800-0xe8ff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
fxp0: Intel 82557 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0x9000-0x901f mem 
0xeb10-0xeb100fff,0xeb00-0xeb0f irq 16 at device 8.0 on pci0

miibus0: MII bus on fxp0
nsphy0: DP83840 10/100 media interface PHY 1 on miibus0
nsphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 

Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread Gerard
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:53:05 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  flash, so don't use it.
 
  i don't use flash - don't need to see all those advertizements. and
  quite frankly, i generally find flash sites irritating anyway.
 
 i don't use it because sites that RELY on flash rarely (almost never)
 have any useful contents.

However, there are many banking institutions that use Flash. I also
belong to several 'Officials Associations' that require the use of
Flash. They are using Flash, not just to make my life easier, but to
simplify theirs.

All this nonsense about using third party programs to download content
from sites such as, but not limited to YouTube, is just unacceptable.
If I navigate to a URL, I fully expect to be able to view all of that
site's content as easily using FreeBSD as I can using Window's with IE.
or even Firefox. Anything less is just not acceptable.


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Re: Help Installing Sun JDK on FreeBSD

2008-06-16 Thread triggerme2ice

Ok so it seems i still have some other issues... :(

I have previously successfully installed the diablo JDK on the official
compatible versions (FreeBSD 5.5 and 6.1) But I need to have JDK installed
in numerous versions of FreeBSD. In this case i need it on 5.0 version

The problem I have now is getting it installed in my FreeBSD 5.0 system
So i tried to pkg_add the diablo-jdk-freebsd5.i386.1.5.0.07.01.tbz from this 
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml website   (the package
is meant for FreeBSD5.5, but its the closest thing available for the 5.0) 
Like in all the other times I've installed it (on the compatible
versions)... it asked for the XORG libraries and the javavmwrapper-2.0_6. I
managed to install the XORG Libraries manually and it works... so the only
thing i am not able to install is the javavmwrapper which i need

I've tried numerous methods:

Method 1:
cd /usr/ports/java/javavmwrapper
make install clean
The result make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
And yes my ports tree is updated

Method 2:
pkg_add -r
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages/Latest/javavmwrapper.tbz
In this method not only does it display the ...is in the future messages,
but at the end it says
pkg_add: write_plist: unknown command type -1 (kaffe-1.*)


Can anyone please let me know how i can get javavmwrapper installed so i can
install the JDK on FreeBSD5.0???



Vince Hoffman wrote:
 
 triggerme2ice wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering if anyone would know of a brute force way of installing
 the
 (newest possible) sun JDK on FreeBSD 5.0 (or any other versions for
 further
 info)
 
 Help a freeBSD user in need :teeth:
 
 The latest version in ports is 1.6.0.3p4 if you need more receent than
 that then no idea. If thats ok then
 cd /usr/port/java/jdk16
 make
 Follow the instructions
 
 Also see http://www.freebsd.org/java/
 5.x has just been announce as no longer supported by ports though,
 although support wont be removed, just not updated and checked as
 changes are made.
 
   You will need a current jdk to compile it though and need to get the
 source files manually. To get a jdk to compile it I'd recommend
 installing the package from
 http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml
 Although you could install one of the linux-sun-jdk* ports if you
 prefer. you can pkg_delete the old jdk once you have the new one
 installed.
 
 
 Vince
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Upgrading problem: confused dependencies

2008-06-16 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Im sorry to repeat a thread from last week, but ive been trying ever since to 
upgrade a
port and havent been able to. If someone can make another suggestion, i would be
very very greatful.

As i said in the libcdio upgrade problems thread, i have installed the 
libcdio port, but
when other ports try to build, they fail, telling me that libcdio is already 
installed and i
need to make deinstall and make reinstall of it. I did this, but got the same 
message.
Ive tried every variant, and would be happy to try brute force versions too. I 
deinstalled
it and let the other port try to install it, i deinstalled all related ports so 
things could try 
again from scratch, i set the environment variables about forcing package 
registration,
whatever i could.

The ports tree is up to date. Id install libcdio as a package, but its not new 
enough.

Something must be corrupted somewhere and i want to fix it, manually if 
necessary, but i
just dont know what to do.

Thanks again and sorry for the new thread, but Im running out of options.

Jen



  
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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:05:19 -0400
Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All this nonsense about using third party programs to download content
 from sites such as, but not limited to YouTube, is just unacceptable.
 If I navigate to a URL, I fully expect to be able to view all of that
 site's content as easily using FreeBSD as I can using Window's with
 IE. or even Firefox. Anything less is just not acceptable.

Then you have a few options:
1. use windows
2. use linux
3. use solaris
4. buy Adobe
The latter simply does not support native FreeBSD.

But I agree with you: Flash is not always shit or not needed. Quite a
few times it gives somthing extra that makes the web more attractive.
People stating it's advertizing 99% of the time are simply wrong.

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mapserver

2008-06-16 Thread Aguiar Magalhaes
Hi list,

I was compiling the /usr/ports/graphics/mapserver on free 7 and I've received 
the message:

===   Compressing manual pages for gdal-1.5.0
===   Running ldconfig
/sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib
===   Registering installation for gdal-1.5.0
===   Returning to build of mapserver-5.0.2
Error: shared library gdal.12 does not exist
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/mapserver.
*** Error code 1

How can i fix it ?

Thanks,

Aguiar




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Small/medium business server platform

2008-06-16 Thread Nejc Škoberne

Hello,

I am a final year student of Faculty of computer and information science from 
Slovenia.
I've also been a Linux/BSD system/network administrator for quite some years 
now.

I am starting to write my thesis and I am looking for good ideas. I am mostly
interested in small/medium business system administration. I also would like to 
continue
the work which I would make a plan for, after the thesis.

We all know Windows Small Business Server platform, which provides many 
roles (as
MS calls them) which can satisfy many of the small company's needs (mail, file, 
DNS, AD,
print, web, ... server). But since I don't do Windows, I am interested in an 
equivalent
open solution. So far, I have found ClarkConnect and eBox. Both are based on 
Linux.
ClarkConnect looks promising, but is not completely open/free and I don't like 
that.
eBox, on the other hand, doesn't have such limitations, but seems quite 
unfinished
although it has been in development for 4 years now. Also, it misses a key 
feature I
would like to have.

Also, I know pfSense. I love it - also, because it's FreeBSD based and I really 
like
FreeBSD. But, for now, it is non-modular and doesn't provide other services 
besides
being a firewall/router/network appliance.

So I was thinking to start a new project, which would have these features:

- it is based on FreeBSD;
- it is monolithic (as pfSense - no third party modules, at least in the 
beginning)
  but still modular (so you can turn on or off various modules you (don't) 
need);
- it provides a configuration API - this is the key feature I mentioned 
before:
  pfSense too, only has a web interface, which is OK, because that's normally 
all
  you need. But I think that it would be really nice if anyone could create his 
or
  her own interface for managing configuration - many companies have many custom
  application frameworks (at least the one I work in, has one) and providing 
this API
  could make management of such servers very scalable. For example, it would be 
very
  handy for me, because now I have 50 small servers at various customers and 
their
  administration can be time consuming. Also, I am not the only administrator, 
neither
  I want to do boring routine tasks (that's why I would need a unified GUI, so 
other
  non-console people can do it).
- it is open, under one of the open-source licences, professional support could 
be
  eventually charged to keep the project going
- the services are running in FreeBSD jails for maximum security, 1 service/jail
- it would offer features such: [most of the pfSense features], mail (POP3, 
IMAP,
  SMTP, webmail, ...), DNS, file/printer services, http, ftp, trac/svn, fax, 
DNS,
  ... - the software for these functions is already out there - it's just that
  someone have to put it all together

My questions:

1. Is such a product needed? Would anybody use it? How to find this out?
2. Connected to the previous question: could such a project live if it was good?
   I don't have experience in developing OS software for money, but I also 
need
   to make a living.
3. I would like to make an international team of developers eventually, like 
other
   open-source projects have;
3. Which features do you find attractive/unnecessary/stupid and which do you 
miss?
4. If you were I and could start with something new as I am thinking about to,
   what it would be? :)

Thanks a lot for your thoughts.

Bye,
Nejc
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Re: OpenOffice 2.4.1: still getting compilation error in FBSD 7.0-STABLE

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Chris Whitehouse wrote:

O. Hartmann wrote:

Hello,

I still get this error since OO 2.4 was offered via ports (OO 2.3 did 
well). I was wondering if someone has no solution to this sticky error.


Can anyone help?

Regards,
Oliver

In case it's any use to you, openoffice.org-3 (openoffice.org-3.0.0.b_1) 
does build with


make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA -DWITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED

also with just

make

openoffice.org-3.0.0.b failed with

make LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB

I'm just testing openoffice.org-3.0.0.b_1 with

make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA -DWITH_TTF_BYTECODE_ENABLED LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB


Yep that works too. Distfile is OOo_BEA300_m2_source.tar.bz2

Chris

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Re: High load, lots of free memory and processes in devfs state

2008-06-16 Thread Stut

On 16 Jun 2008, at 18:48, Oliver Fromme wrote:

Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm having a serious problem with one of my FreeBSD servers. It runs
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, Apache 2.2.8 and PHP 5.2.1. I've checked the
hardware and it's all OK. There's approximately 400 Apache processes
running and a 2GB memcached instance.

Up until last weekend this server was working perfectly at a level
of HTTP traffic higher than it's currently getting. Last week our
database server (separate server) died and had to be rebuilt. While
this was being done this server hosted the database. This has now
been completed and the PHP app is pointing back at the dedicated DB
server.

Top shows the following...

last pid: 26838;  load averages: 10.22, 14.06, 13.55 up
2+00:34:47  18:03:43
619 processes: 1 running, 618 sleeping
CPU states:  4.9% user,  0.0% nice, 24.8% system,  0.4% interrupt,
70.0% idle
Mem: 2241M Active, 2718M Inact, 462M Wired, 394M Cache, 214M Buf,
1747M Free
Swap: 8192M Total, 124K Used, 8192M Free

PIDUIDTHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
COMMAND
26807 80  1  -40 79892K  9996K devfs  0   0:00  2.81%
httpd
26797 80  1  -40 82376K 12592K devfs  1   0:00  2.19%
httpd
26791 80  1  -40 82376K 12636K devfs  0   0:00  1.85%
httpd
26783 80  1  -40 82392K 12640K devfs  3   0:00  1.84%
httpd
[...]


Please let vmstat 5 run for a minute ...  Anything
that looks unusual?


 procs  memory   pagedisks  
faults  cpu
 r b   w avm fre flt  re  pi  po  fr   sr da0 pa0   in   sy   
cs  us sy id
 1 412 2 8910132 2743568 2230  3   1   0 2106  93   0   0 1098 4733  
3025  4 17 79
 1 412 0 8841792 2760548 1630  0   0   0 2276   0  21   0  658 3970  
6374  3 26 71
 0 422 0 8804744 2765076 1349  0   0   0 1394   0  12   0  576 3454  
5131  3 26 71
 1 421 0 8756808 2778660 1095  0   0   0 1581   0  48   0  574 3076  
4415  3 25 72
 0 420 0 8684932 2800128 2049  0   0   0 2927   0  45   0  505 2998  
3770  3 24 73
 1 380 0 8603676 2838452 1149  0   0   0 2842   0  22   0  505 3497  
4339  2 26 72
 1 21  0 8280260 3097392 7630  0   0   0 19969  0  29   0 1241 8895  
6950 10 30 60
 1 4   0 8195828 3131992 9113  0   0   0 9742   0  78   0  996 9405  
2830  7 19 74
 0 20  0 8169288 3121688 2899  0   0   0 2098   0  47   0 1193 7740  
2733  4 23 73
11 13  0 8123476 3128688 1947  0   0   0 2160   0  52   0 1161 6231  
2617  4 26 70
 1 14  0 8067304 3143984 2298  0   0   0 2885   0  57   0 1806 5572  
3373  4 25 70
 2 17  1 8015924 3156168 2702  0   0   0 3164   0  23   0 1384 8243  
2770  6 25 69
 1 22  0 7956476 3176376 2013  0   0   0 2879   0  23   0  917 7063  
2484  6 25 69
 0 35  0 7944760 3150452 4274  0   0   0 2806   0  21   0 1591 8281  
3399  7 25 68
 1 67  3 7903160 3158776 2043  0   0   0 2442   0  20   0 1095 6405  
3605  6 25 70
44 69  0 7872504 3147192 2569  0   0   0 1712   0  81   0 1137 5773  
4998  6 26 69
 1 146 0 7849632 3135388 2095  0   0   0 1274   0  19   0  869 5550  
5466  5 26 69
 3 195 2 7825932 3122116 2482  0   0   0 1586   0  15   0  863 5558  
6135  5 26 69
 1 244 3 7798148 3111624 1609  0   0   0 1226   0  10   0  849 4027  
6477  4 27 69
 2 273 3 7776772 3102948 2080  0   0   0 1310   0  14   0  604 4376  
6527  4 26 70
 1 312 2 7768232 3079012 3148  0   0   0 1800   0  12   0 1066 6088  
10242 6 28 66
 1 340 0 7742680 3068244 2020  0   0   0 1421   0  74   0  729 4407  
8204  4 26 70
 2 366 0 7740324 3068068 1612  0   0   0 1553   0  11   0  613 3526  
6728  3 26 70
 1 397 1 7928688 3059900 1886  0   0   0 1344   0  12   0  515 3081  
6864  3 27 70
 1 400 0 8074560 3008988 4771  0   0   0 1457   0  14   0  950 5309  
8996  5 27 68


Lots of processes blocked - which I guess is what the devfs state  
indicates.



 Have you checked dmesg?


Yes. The only odd thing I can see is the following message, but from  
what I've read it's not critical until you get 5 and it's only in  
there once.


collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC|



Is this FreeBSD i386 (32bit) or amd64 (64bit)?


FreeBSD harold.freeads.co.uk 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri  
Jan 12 08:43:30 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/ 
sys/SMP  amd64



Have you considered updating?  6.2-RELEASE isn't the
freshest anymore.  You might even consider going to
7-stable and using the new ULE scheduler which copes
better with SMP servers.


I have, but I'd rather understand what's happening.


As you can see there's plenty of free memory and the CPU is 70% idle
yet the load is sky high.


Well, load 10 isn't that much for a 4-way SMP system.


A couple of weeks ago this server was fairly fast, load never really  
going beyond 3 and everything was reasonably responsive. Now it  
regularly goes up to and beyond a load of 10 (more often than not at  
the moment) and everything is slow. This means our website users are  
getting a very poor experience which is reflected in our traffic  
levels which 

Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:11:50PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:05:19 -0400
 Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  All this nonsense about using third party programs to download content
  from sites such as, but not limited to YouTube, is just unacceptable.
  If I navigate to a URL, I fully expect to be able to view all of that
  site's content as easily using FreeBSD as I can using Window's with
  IE. or even Firefox. Anything less is just not acceptable.
 
 Then you have a few options:
 1. use windows
 2. use linux
 3. use solaris
 4. buy Adobe
 The latter simply does not support native FreeBSD.
 
 But I agree with you: Flash is not always shit or not needed. Quite a
 few times it gives somthing extra that makes the web more attractive.
 People stating it's advertizing 99% of the time are simply wrong.

Flash is useful, even on business pages.   It can be more efficient at
transmitting certain types of information.  But, businesses that allow
their web designer to supplant his|her ego by putting flash or any other
cute trick in the way of getting business done are failing to manage their 
business and are welcome to go ahead and have their business fail.

jerry

 
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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

But I agree with you: Flash is not always shit or not needed. Quite a


yes you are right. not always, just USUALLY.
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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread prad
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:21:45 -0400
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But, businesses that allow
 their web designer to supplant his|her ego by putting flash or any
 other cute trick in the way of getting business done are failing to
 manage their business and are welcome to go ahead and have their
 business fail.

absolutely! they are masochistically engaged in self-flashalation. :D

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Re: Upgrading problem: confused dependencies

2008-06-16 Thread Derek Ragona

At 01:11 PM 6/16/2008, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
Im sorry to repeat a thread from last week, but ive been trying ever since 
to upgrade a
port and havent been able to. If someone can make another suggestion, i 
would be

very very greatful.

As i said in the libcdio upgrade problems thread, i have installed the 
libcdio port, but
when other ports try to build, they fail, telling me that libcdio is 
already installed and i
need to make deinstall and make reinstall of it. I did this, but got the 
same message.
Ive tried every variant, and would be happy to try brute force versions 
too. I deinstalled
it and let the other port try to install it, i deinstalled all related 
ports so things could try
again from scratch, i set the environment variables about forcing package 
registration,

whatever i could.

The ports tree is up to date. Id install libcdio as a package, but its not 
new enough.


Something must be corrupted somewhere and i want to fix it, manually if 
necessary, but i

just dont know what to do.

Thanks again and sorry for the new thread, but Im running out of options.

Jen



Your post doesn't specify what version of FreeBSD you are using.  Nor does 
your post specify what port(s) are the issue, or what utility if any you 
are using to upgrade a port.


In general, you can use either portupgrade or portmanager to keep installed 
ports up to date.


-Derek

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Re: Upgrading problem: confused dependencies

2008-06-16 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Sorry, this was all discussed in the original thread. The port is the 
sysutils/libcdio port. I 
use portupgrade to keep things up to date. This machine is running FreeBSD
nbsp;6.2-RELEASE.

In this case libcdio itself upgrades correctly, but other ports (for example 
devel/gvfs),
when i try to update them, report that libcdio is already installed and i need 
to make
deinstall and then make reinstall of libcdio. I can do this, and it works, 
but then rerunning
portupgrade on gvfs reports the same thing about libcdio. If just do a make 
deinstall of
libcdio and run portupgrade on gvfs, then gvfs will sucessfully install 
libcdio but when
it gets back to gvfs, reports the same make deinstall/make reinstall thing. In 
general
it seems that no matter what i do, other ports wont see libcdio as being 
correctly
installed at the current version, and im looking for a way to solve this.

Thanks.

Jen

--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Derek Ragona lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
From: Derek Ragona lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: Upgrading problem: confused dependencies
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 1:09 PM


 
At 01:11 PM 6/16/2008, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

Im sorry to repeat a thread from
last week, but ive been trying ever since to upgrade a

port and havent been able to. If someone can make another suggestion, i
would be

very very greatful.


As i said in the libcdio upgrade problems thread, i have
installed the libcdio port, but

when other ports try to build, they fail, telling me that libcdio is
already installed and i

need to make deinstall and make reinstall of it. I did this, but got the
same message.

Ive tried every variant, and would be happy to try brute force versions
too. I deinstalled

it and let the other port try to install it, i deinstalled all related
ports so things could try 

again from scratch, i set the environment variables about forcing package
registration,

whatever i could.


The ports tree is up to date. Id install libcdio as a package, but its
not new enough.


Something must be corrupted somewhere and i want to fix it, manually if
necessary, but i

just dont know what to do.


Thanks again and sorry for the new thread, but Im running out of
options.


Jen

Your post doesn't specify what version of FreeBSD you are using.nbsp;
Nor does your post specify what port(s) are the issue, or what utility if
any you are using to upgrade a port.nbsp; 


In general, you can use either portupgrade or portmanager to keep
installed ports up to date.nbsp;nbsp;


  
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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 16 June 2008 16:49:45 prad wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:21:45 -0400

 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But, businesses that allow
  their web designer to supplant his|her ego by putting flash or any
  other cute trick in the way of getting business done are failing to
  manage their business and are welcome to go ahead and have their
  business fail.

 absolutely! they are masochistically engaged in self-flashalation. :D

Kinda makes me amost sorry that when a tool comes out with the intent of 
aiding criativity, ends up hipnotizing people to use every knob and switch 
there is.

Some times I miss the good/old netscape 4.xx fast-loading/simple pages days.

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Re: Installing FreeBSD

2008-06-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Telpiz Sorin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on my
 friend's machine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by
 Samsung. The hard drive (master) appears to have SATA interface,
 nonetheless SYSINSTALL regognizes it as ad04!

That is fine.

 Besides, SYSINSTALL complains about the disk's geometry . 

Also probably not a problem; C/H/S geometries are rarely important
these days.

   The text
 console works very slowly, though the machine (ASUS motherboard) has
 2 Gigs of RAM and a good GeForce video board. For comparison, my old
 IBM machine ( PentiumII , 128Mb RAM , 16Mb video memory ) runs Free
 BSD much more faster. Could you help us fix the trouble? 

Can you quantify the slowness?  This isn't much of an explanation for
us to work with...
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Re: Doubt about hanged ESTABLISHED connections on netstat...

2008-06-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Agus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Today i was on my Freebsd6.1 logged from my notebook through SSH...somehow i
 lost my Internet connection on my laptop; i realized that, cause i couldnt
 type anything on ssh so i checked and i had lost internet connectionI
 reset my router..connect through Internet, now working, to my BSD again and
 i can see the old connections as ESTABLISHED.They are hanged there cause
 of the loss of my connection i guessSo my doubt and question was;
 Is this normal behaviour, who is in charge of managing this? the TCP
 stack, or can i config SSH...If someone who's got the time and willing to
 explain, share thoughts about this, i ll be grateful...

They will time out when the application tries to send some data and
fails for a period of time.  You can configure ssh to use keepalives
if you want to hurry this along.  Or you can kill the process holding
the socket, and the socket will be closed along with the process.  

It isn't something to spend time worrying about unless you really want
to...
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Re: Upgrading problem: confused dependencies

2008-06-16 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:24 PM 6/16/2008, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
Sorry, this was all discussed in the original thread. The port is the 
sysutils/libcdio port. I

use portupgrade to keep things up to date. This machine is running FreeBSD
nbsp;6.2-RELEASE.

In this case libcdio itself upgrades correctly, but other ports (for 
example devel/gvfs),
when i try to update them, report that libcdio is already installed and i 
need to make
deinstall and then make reinstall of libcdio. I can do this, and it 
works, but then rerunning
portupgrade on gvfs reports the same thing about libcdio. If just do a 
make deinstall of
libcdio and run portupgrade on gvfs, then gvfs will sucessfully install 
libcdio but when
it gets back to gvfs, reports the same make deinstall/make reinstall 
thing. In general
it seems that no matter what i do, other ports wont see libcdio as being 
correctly

installed at the current version, and im looking for a way to solve this.

Thanks.

Jen


I think your problem is that you are still on 6.2 which is no longer a 
supported release.  You can easily upgrade to 6.3 which is supported, then 
update your ports.  I know I have upgraded a few servers from 6.2 to 6.3 
and don't recall any major issues.


-Derek



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wrote:

From: Derek Ragona lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: Upgrading problem: confused dependencies
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 1:09 PM



At 01:11 PM 6/16/2008, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

Im sorry to repeat a thread from
last week, but ive been trying ever since to upgrade a

port and havent been able to. If someone can make another suggestion, i
would be

very very greatful.


As i said in the libcdio upgrade problems thread, i have
installed the libcdio port, but

when other ports try to build, they fail, telling me that libcdio is
already installed and i

need to make deinstall and make reinstall of it. I did this, but got the
same message.

Ive tried every variant, and would be happy to try brute force versions
too. I deinstalled

it and let the other port try to install it, i deinstalled all related
ports so things could try

again from scratch, i set the environment variables about forcing package
registration,

whatever i could.


The ports tree is up to date. Id install libcdio as a package, but its
not new enough.


Something must be corrupted somewhere and i want to fix it, manually if
necessary, but i

just dont know what to do.


Thanks again and sorry for the new thread, but Im running out of
options.


Jen

Your post doesn't specify what version of FreeBSD you are using.nbsp;
Nor does your post specify what port(s) are the issue, or what utility if
any you are using to upgrade a port.nbsp;


In general, you can use either portupgrade or portmanager to keep
installed ports up to date.nbsp;nbsp;



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Re: High load, lots of free memory and processes in devfs state

2008-06-16 Thread Patrick C
Is the MySQL daemon still running on that box? I see a mysqldump but
no mysqld. If it is, try doing a shutdown and see if the load
decreases.

Sounds odd, but I have been having similar issues with MySQL.

-Patrick

2008/6/16 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 16 Jun 2008, at 18:48, Oliver Fromme wrote:

 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm having a serious problem with one of my FreeBSD servers. It runs
 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, Apache 2.2.8 and PHP 5.2.1. I've checked the
 hardware and it's all OK. There's approximately 400 Apache processes
 running and a 2GB memcached instance.

 Up until last weekend this server was working perfectly at a level
 of HTTP traffic higher than it's currently getting. Last week our
 database server (separate server) died and had to be rebuilt. While
 this was being done this server hosted the database. This has now
 been completed and the PHP app is pointing back at the dedicated DB
 server.

 Top shows the following...

 last pid: 26838;  load averages: 10.22, 14.06, 13.55 up
 2+00:34:47  18:03:43
 619 processes: 1 running, 618 sleeping
 CPU states:  4.9% user,  0.0% nice, 24.8% system,  0.4% interrupt,
 70.0% idle
 Mem: 2241M Active, 2718M Inact, 462M Wired, 394M Cache, 214M Buf,
 1747M Free
 Swap: 8192M Total, 124K Used, 8192M Free

 PIDUIDTHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
 COMMAND
 26807 80  1  -40 79892K  9996K devfs  0   0:00  2.81%
 httpd
 26797 80  1  -40 82376K 12592K devfs  1   0:00  2.19%
 httpd
 26791 80  1  -40 82376K 12636K devfs  0   0:00  1.85%
 httpd
 26783 80  1  -40 82392K 12640K devfs  3   0:00  1.84%
 httpd
 [...]

 Please let vmstat 5 run for a minute ...  Anything
 that looks unusual?

  procs  memory   pagedisks faults  cpu
  r b   w avm fre flt  re  pi  po  fr   sr da0 pa0   in   sy  cs  us
 sy id
  1 412 2 8910132 2743568 2230  3   1   0 2106  93   0   0 1098 4733 3025  4
 17 79
  1 412 0 8841792 2760548 1630  0   0   0 2276   0  21   0  658 3970 6374  3
 26 71
  0 422 0 8804744 2765076 1349  0   0   0 1394   0  12   0  576 3454 5131  3
 26 71
  1 421 0 8756808 2778660 1095  0   0   0 1581   0  48   0  574 3076 4415  3
 25 72
  0 420 0 8684932 2800128 2049  0   0   0 2927   0  45   0  505 2998 3770  3
 24 73
  1 380 0 8603676 2838452 1149  0   0   0 2842   0  22   0  505 3497 4339  2
 26 72
  1 21  0 8280260 3097392 7630  0   0   0 19969  0  29   0 1241 8895 6950 10
 30 60
  1 4   0 8195828 3131992 9113  0   0   0 9742   0  78   0  996 9405 2830  7
 19 74
  0 20  0 8169288 3121688 2899  0   0   0 2098   0  47   0 1193 7740 2733  4
 23 73
 11 13  0 8123476 3128688 1947  0   0   0 2160   0  52   0 1161 6231 2617  4
 26 70
  1 14  0 8067304 3143984 2298  0   0   0 2885   0  57   0 1806 5572 3373  4
 25 70
  2 17  1 8015924 3156168 2702  0   0   0 3164   0  23   0 1384 8243 2770  6
 25 69
  1 22  0 7956476 3176376 2013  0   0   0 2879   0  23   0  917 7063 2484  6
 25 69
  0 35  0 7944760 3150452 4274  0   0   0 2806   0  21   0 1591 8281 3399  7
 25 68
  1 67  3 7903160 3158776 2043  0   0   0 2442   0  20   0 1095 6405 3605  6
 25 70
 44 69  0 7872504 3147192 2569  0   0   0 1712   0  81   0 1137 5773 4998  6
 26 69
  1 146 0 7849632 3135388 2095  0   0   0 1274   0  19   0  869 5550 5466  5
 26 69
  3 195 2 7825932 3122116 2482  0   0   0 1586   0  15   0  863 5558 6135  5
 26 69
  1 244 3 7798148 3111624 1609  0   0   0 1226   0  10   0  849 4027 6477  4
 27 69
  2 273 3 7776772 3102948 2080  0   0   0 1310   0  14   0  604 4376 6527  4
 26 70
  1 312 2 7768232 3079012 3148  0   0   0 1800   0  12   0 1066 6088 10242 6
 28 66
  1 340 0 7742680 3068244 2020  0   0   0 1421   0  74   0  729 4407 8204  4
 26 70
  2 366 0 7740324 3068068 1612  0   0   0 1553   0  11   0  613 3526 6728  3
 26 70
  1 397 1 7928688 3059900 1886  0   0   0 1344   0  12   0  515 3081 6864  3
 27 70
  1 400 0 8074560 3008988 4771  0   0   0 1457   0  14   0  950 5309 8996  5
 27 68

 Lots of processes blocked - which I guess is what the devfs state indicates.

  Have you checked dmesg?

 Yes. The only odd thing I can see is the following message, but from what
 I've read it's not critical until you get 5 and it's only in there once.

 collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC|


 Is this FreeBSD i386 (32bit) or amd64 (64bit)?

 FreeBSD harold.freeads.co.uk 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12
 08:43:30 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP
  amd64

 Have you considered updating?  6.2-RELEASE isn't the
 freshest anymore.  You might even consider going to
 7-stable and using the new ULE scheduler which copes
 better with SMP servers.

 I have, but I'd rather understand what's happening.

 As you can see there's plenty of free memory and the CPU is 70% idle
 yet the load is sky high.

 Well, load 10 isn't that much for a 4-way SMP system.

 A couple of weeks ago this server was fairly fast, load never really going
 beyond 3 

Re: High load, lots of free memory and processes in devfs state

2008-06-16 Thread Stut

On 16 Jun 2008, at 22:20, Patrick C wrote:

Is the MySQL daemon still running on that box? I see a mysqldump but
no mysqld. If it is, try doing a shutdown and see if the load
decreases.

Sounds odd, but I have been having similar issues with MySQL.


It's not, no. It used to but it doesn't run now. The mysqldump is a  
nightly backup.


-Stut


2008/6/16 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On 16 Jun 2008, at 18:48, Oliver Fromme wrote:


Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm having a serious problem with one of my FreeBSD servers. It  
runs

FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, Apache 2.2.8 and PHP 5.2.1. I've checked the
hardware and it's all OK. There's approximately 400 Apache  
processes

running and a 2GB memcached instance.

Up until last weekend this server was working perfectly at a level
of HTTP traffic higher than it's currently getting. Last week our
database server (separate server) died and had to be rebuilt. While
this was being done this server hosted the database. This has now
been completed and the PHP app is pointing back at the dedicated DB
server.

Top shows the following...

last pid: 26838;  load averages: 10.22, 14.06, 13.55 up
2+00:34:47  18:03:43
619 processes: 1 running, 618 sleeping
CPU states:  4.9% user,  0.0% nice, 24.8% system,  0.4% interrupt,
70.0% idle
Mem: 2241M Active, 2718M Inact, 462M Wired, 394M Cache, 214M Buf,
1747M Free
Swap: 8192M Total, 124K Used, 8192M Free

PIDUIDTHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
COMMAND
26807 80  1  -40 79892K  9996K devfs  0   0:00  2.81%
httpd
26797 80  1  -40 82376K 12592K devfs  1   0:00  2.19%
httpd
26791 80  1  -40 82376K 12636K devfs  0   0:00  1.85%
httpd
26783 80  1  -40 82392K 12640K devfs  3   0:00  1.84%
httpd
[...]


Please let vmstat 5 run for a minute ...  Anything
that looks unusual?


procs  memory   pagedisks  
faults  cpu
r b   w avm fre flt  re  pi  po  fr   sr da0 pa0   in   sy   
cs  us

sy id
1 412 2 8910132 2743568 2230  3   1   0 2106  93   0   0 1098 4733  
3025  4

17 79
1 412 0 8841792 2760548 1630  0   0   0 2276   0  21   0  658 3970  
6374  3

26 71
0 422 0 8804744 2765076 1349  0   0   0 1394   0  12   0  576 3454  
5131  3

26 71
1 421 0 8756808 2778660 1095  0   0   0 1581   0  48   0  574 3076  
4415  3

25 72
0 420 0 8684932 2800128 2049  0   0   0 2927   0  45   0  505 2998  
3770  3

24 73
1 380 0 8603676 2838452 1149  0   0   0 2842   0  22   0  505 3497  
4339  2

26 72
1 21  0 8280260 3097392 7630  0   0   0 19969  0  29   0 1241 8895  
6950 10

30 60
1 4   0 8195828 3131992 9113  0   0   0 9742   0  78   0  996 9405  
2830  7

19 74
0 20  0 8169288 3121688 2899  0   0   0 2098   0  47   0 1193 7740  
2733  4

23 73
11 13  0 8123476 3128688 1947  0   0   0 2160   0  52   0 1161 6231  
2617  4

26 70
1 14  0 8067304 3143984 2298  0   0   0 2885   0  57   0 1806 5572  
3373  4

25 70
2 17  1 8015924 3156168 2702  0   0   0 3164   0  23   0 1384 8243  
2770  6

25 69
1 22  0 7956476 3176376 2013  0   0   0 2879   0  23   0  917 7063  
2484  6

25 69
0 35  0 7944760 3150452 4274  0   0   0 2806   0  21   0 1591 8281  
3399  7

25 68
1 67  3 7903160 3158776 2043  0   0   0 2442   0  20   0 1095 6405  
3605  6

25 70
44 69  0 7872504 3147192 2569  0   0   0 1712   0  81   0 1137 5773  
4998  6

26 69
1 146 0 7849632 3135388 2095  0   0   0 1274   0  19   0  869 5550  
5466  5

26 69
3 195 2 7825932 3122116 2482  0   0   0 1586   0  15   0  863 5558  
6135  5

26 69
1 244 3 7798148 3111624 1609  0   0   0 1226   0  10   0  849 4027  
6477  4

27 69
2 273 3 7776772 3102948 2080  0   0   0 1310   0  14   0  604 4376  
6527  4

26 70
1 312 2 7768232 3079012 3148  0   0   0 1800   0  12   0 1066 6088  
10242 6

28 66
1 340 0 7742680 3068244 2020  0   0   0 1421   0  74   0  729 4407  
8204  4

26 70
2 366 0 7740324 3068068 1612  0   0   0 1553   0  11   0  613 3526  
6728  3

26 70
1 397 1 7928688 3059900 1886  0   0   0 1344   0  12   0  515 3081  
6864  3

27 70
1 400 0 8074560 3008988 4771  0   0   0 1457   0  14   0  950 5309  
8996  5

27 68

Lots of processes blocked - which I guess is what the devfs state  
indicates.



Have you checked dmesg?


Yes. The only odd thing I can see is the following message, but  
from what
I've read it's not critical until you get 5 and it's only in there  
once.


collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC|



Is this FreeBSD i386 (32bit) or amd64 (64bit)?


FreeBSD harold.freeads.co.uk 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0:  
Fri Jan 12
08:43:30 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ 
SMP

amd64


Have you considered updating?  6.2-RELEASE isn't the
freshest anymore.  You might even consider going to
7-stable and using the new ULE scheduler which copes
better with SMP servers.


I have, but I'd rather understand what's happening.

As you can see there's plenty of free memory and the CPU is 70%  
idle

yet the load is sky high.


Well, load 10 isn't that 

Re: mapserver

2008-06-16 Thread Pietro Cerutti

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| I was compiling the /usr/ports/graphics/mapserver on free 7 and I've
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|
| ===   Compressing manual pages for gdal-1.5.0
| ===   Running ldconfig
| /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib
| ===   Registering installation for gdal-1.5.0
| ===   Returning to build of mapserver-5.0.2
| Error: shared library gdal.12 does not exist
| *** Error code 1
|
| Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/mapserver.
| *** Error code 1
|
| How can i fix it ?

The version of GDAL's shared library has bumped.
Modify gdal.12 with gdal.13 in the port's Makefile, at line 70.

You may want to submit a PR with your changes :)

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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread cpghost
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:11:50 +0200
dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:05:19 -0400
 Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  All this nonsense about using third party programs to download
  content from sites such as, but not limited to YouTube, is just
  unacceptable. If I navigate to a URL, I fully expect to be able to
  view all of that site's content as easily using FreeBSD as I can
  using Window's with IE. or even Firefox. Anything less is just not
  acceptable.
 
 Then you have a few options:
 1. use windows
 2. use linux
 3. use solaris
 4. buy Adobe
 The latter simply does not support native FreeBSD.

 But I agree with you: Flash is not always shit or not needed. Quite a
 few times it gives somthing extra that makes the web more attractive.
 People stating it's advertizing 99% of the time are simply wrong.

The problem with Flash is neither

 * Flash ads (blockable with NoScript) NOR

 * Adobe's dismal/no support of FreeBSD (other alternatives exist) NOR

 * the closed-sourceness of Adobe's Flash Player (runs in isolated
   virtualized sandboxes where it won't do much harm, either
   intentionally or unintentionally)

but the fact that Flash *content* itself is being routinely blocked /
filtered at the edge of many corporate networks for security reasons,
and the number of corporate networks that block Flash is increasing
daily... and IMHO rightly so!

If your company decided to block Flash content because they are afraid
of industrial or economic espionage with Flash-based malware -- and
there's an increasing number of companies in Europe, Taiwan, Korea,
Japan and China which do just that for exactly this reason -- your only
recourse is to insist that websites provide alternative non-Flash
paths. It's not a Adobe against FreeBSD thing, it's a very simple
matter of accessibility in general to content and a whole technology
that is deemed untrusted by the security people responsible for
company's valuable data.

Hobbyists usually don't have so many sensitive data on their machines,
or they don't care much about them if they leaked outside, but companies
can't afford being this lax: they've got much more to lose if something
goes wrong.

Nothing against Flash: those who want to provide it or view it, nice!
But any respectable site ought to provide a viable alternative to an
important class of users: it's not just us FreeBSD users, it's far,
FAR more than that!

-cpghost.

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USB support for Galaxy Metal Gear 3538UEP

2008-06-16 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
I'm looking to put together a suitable for home use disk based  
backup to replace a broken Tape Changer. My thought is to buy the  
Galaxy Metal Gear 3538UEP which is a JBOD/RAID 1 USB disk enclosure.  
Does anyone have any experience using this USB Disk enclosure with  
FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE or later?


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Replacing tape changer with USB disk drives.

2008-06-16 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
I run FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE on a file server and until recently used a  
Tape Changer for backups. I'm considering my options for a new backup  
solution. I'm actually thinking of ditching tape and using an  
externally attached USB or Firewire disk drive.


My experimentation isn't giving me good feelings about doing this with  
FreeBSD. To start this off I installed an Adaptec USB 2.0 interface  
into my server. In the time that I've been working with it I notice  
that it periodically bogs down and that it has the potential to panic  
the kernel and cause a reboot. I recognize that this could be:


 The USB card that I'm using.

 The chipset in the USB enclosure that I'm testing with.

Has anyone gone this route? If so what was your experience?

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Release engineering process confusions and make (build)world

2008-06-16 Thread cco1817-0
Hi folks,

Up to now, when I'm installing my FreeBSD boxes I download the latest RELEASE 
iso-image for my platform. These days I used 7.0-RELEASE. For security fixes I 
use the provided patches as mentioned in the security advisories. 

Since a long time I'm asking myself the following questions and I don't find 
answers in the handbook (e.g. 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.html) or 
other ressources:

1. Some SA's say that the a bug is corrected in a particular RELENG or RELEASE 
or a patched RELEASE. For example FreeBSD-SA-08:05.openssh states that 
RELENG_7_0, 7.0-RELEASE-p1. But where can I get a -p1??? I've never seen 
iso-images for a x.y-RELEASE-pnn. Is this the time where I need to build a 
release (as iso-image) by myself? If so, what branch-tag do I need to get 
7.0-RELEASE-p1?

2. I understood that there are two different development branches, HEAD aka 
CURRENT and STABLE. I avoid using these branches because I'm not a 
developer. Thats the reason why I only want to use RELEASES. But what the hell 
is a RELENG??? Why are these things not called 7.0-CURRENT or 7.0-STABLE and 
so on (and 7.0-RELEASE for me)? Maybe I've a problem to understand this because 
I'm not really familar with CVSup.

3. I played around with jails these days and I had my first contact with make 
world. Despite the inconsistencies in the handbook where the jail-chapter 
instructs to use make world and the rebuilding world part warns explicitly 
and proposes make buildworld (but the Makefile tells me that the target 
world stands for buildworld + installworld, no kernel which seems 
okay?!), does it make sense to use make buildworld also when I'm not updating 
to another RELEASE? As it compiles everything on my machine (it autodetects my 
CPU and features?!) I guess the system should perform better?! Is it possible 
or common to update to the latest source tree (where latest means I want to 
stay at the current RELEASE but want to have all patches like 7.0-RELEASE-p1)? 
Or results an updating process of the source tree always in a switch to STABLE 
or CURRENT (depending on the branch tag in CVSup config?)?

Many thanks in advance to everyone who puts me in the right direction. Before 
posting to the list I read some documents (mainly the handbook), but maybe I 
missed some small but important sentences. Thanks!

cheers,
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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-16 Thread RW
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:36:36 +0200
cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem with Flash is neither ...
 

 but the fact that Flash *content* itself is being routinely blocked /
 filtered at the edge of many corporate networks for security reasons,

That's sounds more like the beginning of a solution, than a problem.
No one cares about FreeBSD, but people surfing when they should be
working are a major demographic.
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Re: Replacing tape changer with USB disk drives.

2008-06-16 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:
I run FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE on a file server and until recently used a  
Tape Changer for backups. I'm considering my options for a new  
backup solution. I'm actually thinking of ditching tape and using an  
externally attached USB or Firewire disk drive.


External drives make nice, fast external hot-standby backups.  They  
are lousy for making long-term backups that you can take offsite,  
though.  I can and have restored decade old 20/40GB and 40/80GB  
DLTtape IV cartridges, and have happily moved to a 220GB sDLT drive.


I've got a few 10-year-old SCSI drives that still work, but I've yet  
to find a commodity PATA IDE or SATA IDE brand of drives which make it  
much over 5 years, and a large percentage have issues trying to get  
much past 3 years of heavy usage.


My experimentation isn't giving me good feelings about doing this  
with FreeBSD. To start this off I installed an Adaptec USB 2.0  
interface into my server. In the time that I've been working with it  
I notice that it periodically bogs down and that it has the  
potential to panic the kernel and cause a reboot. I recognize that  
this could be:


While I really liked the AHA 1540/2940 controllers, I'm dubious about  
Adaptec's USB controllers.  I've got a few external drives with both  
USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces, and they are faster and more  
reliable going over Firewire.  YMMV...


Regards,
--
-Chuck

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Re: how to view environment variables

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Oliver Fromme wrote:

Chris Whitehouse wrote:
  sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various environment 
  variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find out what they 
  are set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm using standard csh and 
FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and ntfs-3g works except it 
  seems very slow.


The env command prints the environment variables of your
current shell (should work with any shell).

To view the environment variables of another process, use
something like ps -ewwp 1234 (1234 being the PID number).
This requires PROCFS to be mounted on /proc.

Best regards
   Oliver

This is the last bit of the puzzle. It does indeed print environment 
variables set with 'env VAR=foo prog'  but as I've now understood from 
previous replies the program doesn't set variables, it uses them if they 
are already set, otherwise uses defaults.


Thanks

Chris
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Re: Samba on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-06-16 Thread Ruel Luchavez
I can recommend you reading the lots of FAQ of samba in their site at
samba.org.

Theres plenty of solution out there...


Cheers..



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 Hello ALL,
 I want to install Samba on FreeBSD 7.0 from ports collection.
 when i cd to /usr/ports/net/samba3
 make config
 LDAP
 ADS
 and many more options to enable with samba with ADS server 2008

 What would  like to know which options will best work with ADS Windows
 Server 2008? suggestions are welcome and appreciate.
 Thanks in advance to all,
 - Augustin
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Replacing tape changer with USB disk drives.

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Huff

Christopher Sean Hilton writes:

  I run FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE on a file server and until recently used a  
  Tape Changer for backups. I'm considering my options for a new backup  
  solution. I'm actually thinking of ditching tape and using an  
  externally attached USB or Firewire disk drive.

  Has anyone gone this route? If so what was your experience?

I have been using this for at least a year - USB2 connecting to
a PATA drive.  The protocol dumps a week's worth on one disk: a full
and six incremental backups.
I have had no problems with reliability.
I /do/ have problems with speed.  The fast recorded throughput
was aroud 3.5 bytes/second; faster than the SCSI-1 DLT it replaces,
but nowhere near the 60 mbytes/second of the USB,  (Yes, I know it's
theoretical maximum ... but even if we halve it and then halve is
again, we're still factor-of-4 off the actual performance.)  This
has resisted serious attempts for remedy,
Hardware:
no-name disks
Addonics Saturn drive cartridge system
Acer Labs USB2 add-on controller


Robert Huff

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Re: Release engineering process confusions and make (build)world

2008-06-16 Thread Schiz0
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:41 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Up to now, when I'm installing my FreeBSD boxes I download the latest RELEASE 
 iso-image for my platform. These days I used 7.0-RELEASE. For security fixes 
 I use the provided patches as mentioned in the security advisories.

 Since a long time I'm asking myself the following questions and I don't find 
 answers in the handbook (e.g. 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.html) or 
 other ressources:

 1. Some SA's say that the a bug is corrected in a particular RELENG or 
 RELEASE or a patched RELEASE. For example FreeBSD-SA-08:05.openssh states 
 that RELENG_7_0, 7.0-RELEASE-p1. But where can I get a -p1??? I've never 
 seen iso-images for a x.y-RELEASE-pnn. Is this the time where I need to build 
 a release (as iso-image) by myself? If so, what branch-tag do I need to get 
 7.0-RELEASE-p1?

 2. I understood that there are two different development branches, HEAD aka 
 CURRENT and STABLE. I avoid using these branches because I'm not a 
 developer. Thats the reason why I only want to use RELEASES. But what the 
 hell is a RELENG??? Why are these things not called 7.0-CURRENT or 
 7.0-STABLE and so on (and 7.0-RELEASE for me)? Maybe I've a problem to 
 understand this because I'm not really familar with CVSup.

 3. I played around with jails these days and I had my first contact with 
 make world. Despite the inconsistencies in the handbook where the 
 jail-chapter instructs to use make world and the rebuilding world part 
 warns explicitly and proposes make buildworld (but the Makefile tells me 
 that the target world stands for buildworld + installworld, no kernel 
 which seems okay?!), does it make sense to use make buildworld also when 
 I'm not updating to another RELEASE? As it compiles everything on my machine 
 (it autodetects my CPU and features?!) I guess the system should perform 
 better?! Is it possible or common to update to the latest source tree (where 
 latest means I want to stay at the current RELEASE but want to have all 
 patches like 7.0-RELEASE-p1)? Or results an updating process of the source 
 tree always in a switch to STABLE or CURRENT (depending on the branch tag in 
 CVSup config?)?

 Many thanks in advance to everyone who puts me in the right direction. Before 
 posting to the list I read some documents (mainly the handbook), but maybe I 
 missed some small but important sentences. Thanks!

 cheers,
 Ede


There are two branches of FreeBSD. The STABLE branch, and the CURRENT
branch. The CURRENT branch is like the alpha. It has the most-recent
code changes, and it is not very stable. The STABLE branch is more
stable, but it is still considered a development branch.
Every so often, the STABLE branch is considered stable enough to make
a new release version. All the RELEASE is, is a snapshot of the code
at a specific time.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html
^ That page explains all the RELENG tags, in terms of branches and releases.

For information on how to use CSup/CVSup, read this:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html
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Re: Replacing tape changer with USB disk drives.

2008-06-16 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton


On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:


On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:


External drives make nice, fast external hot-standby backups.  They  
are lousy for making long-term backups that you can take offsite,  
though.  I can and have restored decade old 20/40GB and 40/80GB  
DLTtape IV cartridges, and have happily moved to a 220GB sDLT drive.


I've got a few 10-year-old SCSI drives that still work, but I've yet  
to find a commodity PATA IDE or SATA IDE brand of drives which make  
it much over 5 years, and a large percentage have issues trying to  
get much past 3 years of heavy usage.




I've had pretty much the same result. SCSI Drives seem to have a solid  
lifetime of about 3+ years with some of them lasting better than 6.  
I'm not trying to keep my backups that long though. This is basically  
insurance against a catastrophic machine failure more than anything  
else. The machine in question has a Mylex Acceleraid 250 and RAID 5  
SCSI array with a hot spare. The function of this backup is to protect  
my time if the RAID array fails for some reason that I cannot diagnose  
quickly. To some extent I also need the ability to go back in time if  
delete a file by accident but that's happened once in the past 5 years.




While I really liked the AHA 1540/2940 controllers, I'm dubious  
about Adaptec's USB controllers.  I've got a few external drives  
with both USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces, and they are faster and  
more reliable going over Firewire.  YMMV...




I've had the Adaptec Firewire controller and have the same problem as  
I do with the USB one. I have a hand full of USB drives in external  
enclosures that I used for different things. Mostly to transfer video  
from one place to another. Right now I'm using one of them and getting  
rid of some ancient video that I no longer need. My USB drive has a  
UFS2 filesystem on it and it's mounted with Softupdates turned on.  
When I remove a large file or a large directory. Everything works  
great for a minute and then file access to the drive just stalls. A  
good minute later everything is fine. The interface is either USB or  
Firewire because the enclosure can do either.


-- Chris

Chris Hilton   tildeChris -- http://myblog.vindaloo.com
email -- chris/at/vindaloo/ 
dot/com
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I see?
   Much confusion, disillution, all  
around me.
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Re: Replacing tape changer with USB disk drives.

2008-06-16 Thread Steve Bertrand

Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:
I run FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE on a file server and until recently used a Tape 
Changer for backups. I'm considering my options for a new backup 
solution. I'm actually thinking of ditching tape and using an externally 
attached USB or Firewire disk drive.


Do the tapes get taken off-site, or do they sit in the same location 
that the servers will burn when a fire breaks out?


My experimentation isn't giving me good feelings about doing this with 
FreeBSD. To start this off I installed an Adaptec USB 2.0 interface into 
my server. In the time that I've been working with it I notice that it 
periodically bogs down and that it has the potential to panic the kernel 
and cause a reboot. I recognize that this could be:


 The USB card that I'm using.

 The chipset in the USB enclosure that I'm testing with.

Has anyone gone this route? If so what was your experience?


Yes, I use external USB 2.0 external disks for backup for workstations 
that are encrypted with either GELI or TrueCrypt on the fly.


The problem with USB hard disks is that they A) are prone to failure 
very quickly (as has been pointed out); and B) they never get taken 
off-site on a routine basis as they should.


My recommendation (FWIW) would be to build/buy/acquire a network storage 
device with a 1000Mbps Ethernet interface that you back up your entire 
network to. Depending on the size of your network, it may be advisable 
to pop an extra NIC (gigE) in every box that requires a backup and 
create yourself a private backup subnet, as to not disturb the 
production network.


Once the network backup is complete, cycle this complete backup to tape 
which can be taken off site for longer term storage (after the network 
backup to 'hot' storage is done, the tape backup time becomes irrelevant).


This setup provides an always-on, live-as-of-yesterday recovery 
mechanism without having to load tape.


Also, depending on the amount of data that requires backup, and the 
throughput capacity/cost of your Internet link(s), it is always a 
benefit to do an rsync (or equivalent) copy to a remote location, in 
order to best accommodate a 'hot spare' location (ie, users migrate to 
remote temporary location, and have to change as little as possible).


USB disks are as useful as the people that you put in charge of taking 
them off-site, multiplied by the number of drives you cycle, divided by 
the life expectancy of the disks (and/or the people taking them offsite ;)


One more thing...a good backup is not measured in how far back the 
backup goes...a good backup is measured in the amount of time it takes 
to recover from it


Steve
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Wireless net work set up

2008-06-16 Thread Luis Trimiÿfffff1o
Hello I had been trying to set up a wireless connection for my laptop but 
nothing seems to work
What I am using: FreeBSD 6.2 release p3
Architecture amd 64
hardware: HP pavilion zv6000

so far what I had done:

1. Use the ndisgen to make kernel modules from wireless broadcom windows 
drivers.
2. verify that the drivers actualy work with the kernel by checking dmesg

here is my dmesg:

FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p3 #3: Sat Mar 24 14:24:31 EST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL2
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (2387.79-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0xff0  Stepping = 0
  
Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2
  AMD Features=0xe0500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,LM,3DNow+,3DNow
real memory  = 1072627712 (1022 MB)
avail memory = 1023938560 (976 MB)
kbd0 at kbdmux0
cpu0 on motherboard
pcib0: Host to PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: display, VGA at device 5.0 (no driver attached)
pcib2: PCI-PCI bridge at device 4.0 on pci0
pci2: PCI bus on pcib2
ohci0: ATI SB400 USB Controller mem 0xb000-0xbfff irq 11 at device 
19.0 on pci0
ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0: ATI SB400 USB Controller on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: ATI OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
ohci1: ATI SB400 USB Controller mem 0xb0001000-0xb0001fff irq 11 at device 
19.1 on pci0
ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb1: ATI SB400 USB Controller on ohci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: ATI OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
ehci0: ATI SB400 USB 2.0 controller mem 0xb0002000-0xb0002fff irq 11 at 
device 19.2 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: EHCI version 1.0
usb2: companion controllers, 4 ports each: usb0 usb1
usb2: ATI SB400 USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
usb2: USB revision 2.0
uhub2: ATI EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
ichsmb0: SMBus controller port 0x8400-0x840f mem 0xb0003000-0xb00033ff at 
device 20.0 on pci0
device_attach: ichsmb0 attach returned 6
atapci0: ATI IXP400 UDMA133 controller port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x8410-0x841f at device 20.1 on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 20.3 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
pcib3: PCI-PCI bridge at device 20.4 on pci0
pci3: PCI bus on pcib3
fwohci0: Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A mem 
0xb0208000-0xb02087ff,0xb020-0xb0203fff irq 10 at device 0.0 on pci3
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 57:3f:02:00:7b:6c:40:79
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0
sbp0: SBP-2/SCSI over FireWire on firewire0
fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0
if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 56:3f:02:6c:40:79
fwe0: Ethernet address: 56:3f:02:6c:40:79
fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop = 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
ndis0: Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter mem 0xb0204000-0xb0205fff irq 10 at 
device 2.0 on pci3
ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1
ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:90:4b:f3:6e:44
cbb0: PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0xb0209000-0xb0209fff irq 10 at device 4.0 on 
pci3
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
pci3: mass storage at device 4.3 (no driver attached)
pci3: base peripheral at device 4.4 (no driver attached)
rl0: RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xb020a400-0xb020a4ff 
irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci3
miibus0: MII bus on rl0
rlphy0: RealTek internal media interface on miibus0
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:b0:73:53:f5
pci0: multimedia, audio at device 20.5 (no driver attached)
pci0: simple comms, generic modem at device 20.6 (no driver attached)
orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem 
0xc-0xcefff,0xd-0xd5fff,0xd8000-0xd8fff,0xdf800-0xd on isa0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd1 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed 

Re: Move data from 3ware RAID-1 disk to MB disk

2008-06-16 Thread Stanislav
Hi all,

After moving one disk to motherboard FreeBSD didn't recognize it. So I
booted into rescue linux (via LAN), than mounted disk on motherboard
and FreeBSD-netinst ISO into qemu (installed it on virtual disk)
virtual machine and quickly installed FreeBSD via VNC. After that
moved data from disk on 3ware controller. Quite easy ;)

Best Regards

2008/6/16 Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 05:19:43PM +0400, Stanislav wrote:
 Dear Johan,

 But hetzner support told me that data will be lost if connect disk to
 motherboard controller:
 If we connect the HDD's on the Mainboard-controller, they were detected as
 empty HDD, because the controller write the sectors in a other way, like the
 RAID-controler!

 That is probably correct.


 But I think that maybe 3ware writes their RAID table somewhere near MBR 
 record.

 Maybe.

 So maybe I have to rewrite MBR and that disk will work on motherboard
 controller?

 Maybe, but you don't know how you should rewrite the MBR (i.e. what should
 be written to it), and neither do I (and probably not the people at hetzner
 either.) You could try asking the 3Ware people directly, but I doubt they
 support such an operation.


 I have backups, but this is production system, and I want to switch to
 MB controller with minimal downtime.

 That might not be possible.  One of the drawbacks with real hardware-RAID
 is that each controller (or at least each manufacturer) has its own format
 and it is usually not possible to move disks between different controllers
 without losing the data on them.



 Kind Regards

 2008/6/16 Johan Hendriks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have FreeBSD 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller hosted at
 hetzner.de.
 
 Now I want remove 3ware controller, and to stay with motherboard
 controller. Is it possible to do without data loss?
 I suggest to move one disk to motherboard controller, than boot via
 LAN to Linux rescue, and than do dd from 3ware to MB disk.
 Is it possible to do so or I will copy 3ware RAID table, and MB disk
 will not be bootable?
 
 Kind Regards
 
  I freebsd detect the onboard controller and the drives on it, all you
  need to do is to make sure /etc/fstab points to the right disks.
 
  Now it probberly points to /dev/twe0s1* and so on if your onboard
  controller uses ad then it needs to be changed to /dev/da0s1*
 
  Make sure you have backups!!
 




 --
 Insert your favourite quote here.
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Release engineering process confusions and make (build)world

2008-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


1. Some SA's say that the a bug is corrected in a particular RELENG
or RELEASE or a patched RELEASE. For example FreeBSD-SA-08:05.openssh
states that RELENG_7_0, 7.0-RELEASE-p1. But where can I get a
-p1??? I've never seen iso-images for a x.y-RELEASE-pnn. Is this the
time where I need to build a release (as iso-image) by myself? If so,
what branch-tag do I need to get 7.0-RELEASE-p1? 


If you use c(v)sup or freebsd-update to track one of the security branches
(eg RELENG_7_0) then with each patch release you'll also get updates to
the version number as reported by the system.  (ie. you get a re-compiled
kernel with an updated version compiled into it).

If you track one of the security branches by applying the patches
distributed in the advisories, functionally you'll have the same effect --
the security holes will be patched, etc. -- but unless the flaw is in
the kernel code, you won't get a new kernel, hence no change to the
version number the system reports.

It's a toss-up.  Either you do the minimal amount of work needed to 
secure and maintain your system, or you take a bit more time and

effort and you reboot a bit more frequently and you get a system that
also records what updates have been applied.  Which of those you choose
is entirely a matter of local policy.

There is extensive information in the handbook about all the different
mechanisms that exist for tracking any of the various development or
security branches.  There should also be snapshot iso-images generated
from development branches on a regular schedule, not that that helps
with your specific question:

   http://www.freebsd.org/snapshots/

Cheers,

Matthew

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