Re: DHCP server

2008-10-28 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:38:22 -0400, bofh42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you sure you are using the correct command to start the DHCP
 client?
 
 I'm not familiar with Archlinux, but on Debian linux the command
 you 
 need is dhclient.

That's correcto about FreeBSD where dhclient or the respective
RC script in /etc/rc.d/dhclient is responsible for initiating
a DHCP request (by the client).

A long time ago, I had played around with TomsRTBT (a Linux
that fits on a disk - not a disc); there dhcpcd seemed to be
the correct DHCP client site program.



  On the other hand, dhcpd starts the dhcp
 *server*

Correct.



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Seg Fault Action!

2008-10-28 Thread Graham Bentley

Hi All,

I have often wondered what to do if I compile a port and
immediatly after trying to run it I get a seg fault.

In the past I have just tried to find an alternative port
that did the same job, but it has always felt as though I
wasnt trying hard enough.

Yesterday after upgrading all my ports tree I decided to
get printing working and cups / HP stuff all works fine
as does the web gui to cups so I decided to try and
make xpp.

The result is 'Segmentation Fault' - thats it!

How do I go about finding out what caused it and how to
get the program running?

Any tips etc appreciated!
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Zero-Fill format before installation

2008-10-28 Thread Bullet 446
I have a remote machine with KVM access that I'd like to format and
reinstall FreeBSD 7.0. I've succeded in formatting /dev/ad6 but not the main
drive, /dev/ad4.
Is it possbile to zero-fill format during the installation instead of simply
deleting and recreating partitions?

I've tried booting into single user mode without any success:
# umount -a
umount: /cdrom: not a file system root directory
umount: /var: not a file system root directory
umount: /usr: not a file system root directory
umount: /tmp: not a file system root directory
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4
dd: /dev/ad4: Operation not permitted
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Re: reviving games/freebsd-games

2008-10-28 Thread Jurjen Middendorp
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:22:19PM +0100, clemens fischer wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick:

 I think the bottom line here is that until someone steps up and
 actually volunteers to fix the code, it will remain broken.  (I don't
 normally tote this attitude, but in this case it's applicable: this is
 a volunteer project! :-) )

That's why I want to try my skills on it.  I found the emails you cited,
but they didn't help much.

Gdb(1) is no mystery to me, and it told me where larn crashes.  Doing
scrollname[i][0]=' ' with char *scrollname[] = {\0something,...}
shouldn't cause a SIGSEGV as far as I know.

regards, clemens

If you do char *p = something, you can't write to that string (it's a
pointer into some stringtable: easy way to look at it :). You have to use
char p[] = something, then it's an array with enough storage to write to :)
maybe try something like char scrollname[NUMSCROLLS][]; ?

greetings,
Jurjen.
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Re: gmirror slice insertion, FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY, DSC, ERROR

2008-10-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
so good. Began Ralf's procedure for inserting ad4s1 into mirror/gm0. The 
synchronization began and reached 6% when this little horror appeared:


ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE 
LBA=134802751
GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=5). ad6s1[READ(offset=69018976256, 
length=131072)]
GEOM_MIRROR: Synchronization request failed (error=5). 
mirror/gm0[READ(offset=69018976256, length=131072)]




your disk failed. (uncorrectable error)

assuming you eliminated other causes like drives overheating, cabling 
problem (don't think so) etc.:



boot from some kind of live CD, then make another mirror (single disk now) 
on other drive, then do


dd if=/dev/ad6s1 of=/dev/mirror/newmirror bs=2k conv=noerror,sync

i intentionally did bs=2k instead of larger, to minimize amount of lost 
data.


then change your system to boot from newmirror, take out /dev/ad6 and have 
it replaced on warranty (or buy new), put new ad6, insert it to the 
mirror.

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Re: gmirror slice insertion, FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY, DSC, ERROR

2008-10-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=134802751


Are you sure you don't have a bad hard disk?  This looks to be like a
classic block/sector failure.  This does not appear to be the infamous
famous DMA timeout problem, especially if this is the only error
you're getting.


he can temporarity boot with hw.ata.ata_dma=0

but i think his drive failed.




I reinstalled FB7 to ad4, redid the /boot.config modification to make
ad6/gm0 bootable again and retried the insertion of ad4 into gm0. Exact
same error messages at exactly the same point with same consequences.



so IT IS FAILED drive!
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odd problem, system clock stops while power-down

2008-10-28 Thread Richard Smith
Hi! I found that the freebsd system clock just stops when i shutdown or reboot 
the computer. what is odd is that the clock in my BIOS shows the right time, so 
it couldn't be that CMOS battery is dead.
How do i get around this so i wouldn't have to set the clock every time i boot 
into freebsd? and by the way, does freebsd use the CMOS clock?

regards


  

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Re: odd problem, system clock stops while power-down

2008-10-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:17:39 -0700 (PDT), Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 How do i get around this so i wouldn't have to set the clock every
 time i boot into freebsd? and by the way, does freebsd use the
 CMOS clock?

An idea would to use NTP to get the exact time from your
local atomic time dealer at system startup. :-)

See ntpd and ntpdate for further information.




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Re: reviving games/freebsd-games

2008-10-28 Thread clemens fischer
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:57:15 +0100 Jurjen Middendorp wrote:

 If you do char *p = something, you can't write to that string (it's
 a pointer into some stringtable: easy way to look at it :). You have
 to use char p[] = something, then it's an array with enough storage
 to write to :) maybe try something like char scrollname[NUMSCROLLS][]; ?

Thank you and Martin for your very helpful comments!  You have a point
there:  the compiler might put the strings themselves into a read-only
table and keep only the pointers to them, as declared.  I didn't think
of that.  Do you happen to know what linker section gcc-4.x puts strings
into?

I thought I'd clean up that code declaring a real struct like:

  struct scrollname_s {
  int active;
  char name[] = ...;
  };

then name could stay read-only.  OTOH I found numerous larn versions, so
keeping ours compatible might keep maintenance costs down.

-c

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Re: gmirror slice insertion, FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY, DSC, ERROR

2008-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:04:49PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=134802751

 Are you sure you don't have a bad hard disk?  This looks to be like a
 classic block/sector failure.  This does not appear to be the infamous
 famous DMA timeout problem, especially if this is the only error
 you're getting.

 he can temporarity boot with hw.ata.ata_dma=0

They're SATA disks, so this won't do anything sadly.

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Re: Zero-Fill format before installation

2008-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:21:00AM +, Bullet 446 wrote:
 I have a remote machine with KVM access that I'd like to format and
 reinstall FreeBSD 7.0. I've succeded in formatting /dev/ad6 but not the main
 drive, /dev/ad4.
 Is it possbile to zero-fill format during the installation instead of simply
 deleting and recreating partitions?
 
 I've tried booting into single user mode without any success:
 # umount -a
 umount: /cdrom: not a file system root directory
 umount: /var: not a file system root directory
 umount: /usr: not a file system root directory
 umount: /tmp: not a file system root directory
 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4
 dd: /dev/ad4: Operation not permitted

You need to tell GEOM to allow you to overwrite the MBR at the start
of the disk.

sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 then do the dd again.

I STRONGLY recommend you add bs=64k to that dd statement, or else it's
going to take a million years.  :-)

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Re: odd problem, system clock stops while power-down

2008-10-28 Thread Ian Smith
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:46:58 +0100 Polytropon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:17:39 -0700 (PDT), Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   How do i get around this so i wouldn't have to set the clock every
   time i boot into freebsd? and by the way, does freebsd use the
   CMOS clock?
  
  An idea would to use NTP to get the exact time from your
  local atomic time dealer at system startup. :-)
  
  See ntpd and ntpdate for further information.

Definitely the best advice.  However it doesn't explain why his system 
apparently fails to retrieve the current date  time from CMOS on boot.

Mine always have, though CMOS clocks rarely keep good time, so using NTP 
after network connection after boot I see initial corrections of several 
seconds usually .. still it's better than having all your log timestamps 
screwed after reboot until NTP does its thing.

Richard: are you running UTC or local time in CMOS?  If the latter, does 
the file /etc/wall_cmos_clock exist?

cheers, Ian
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flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Hello!

I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my FreeBSD-7/amd64 
system.

If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser crashes 
quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, the 
wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the plugin does 
not work...

It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these problems 
(is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks,

-mi
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Re: Zero-Fill format before installation

2008-10-28 Thread Bullet 446
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 then do the dd again.

Thanks Jeremy, that worked fine.

 I STRONGLY recommend you add bs=64k to that dd statement, or else it's
 going to take a million years.  :-)

That's a good tip, reduced formatting time by 85%! :)
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VLAN filtering on FreeBSD 7.0 / 6.3

2008-10-28 Thread Yony Yossef
Hi,

I have two questions about VLANs on FreeBSD 6.3/7.0.

1.
I'm trying to understand whether HW VLAN filtering can be supported.
Looking at the code I can't find a proper ioctl that will inform the driver
about a vlan creation/destruction.
Is there a way of doing it?

2.
Second issue - is there way of enabling TSO on vlan interfaces?

Thanks
Yony
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Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC

2008-10-28 Thread Francis Dubé

Jeremy Chadwick a écrit :

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56:30PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
  

On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote:

You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your system 
can run under high load; generally the amount of system memory is the 
governing factor. [1]  If you set your MaxClients higher than that, 
your system will start swapping under the load and once you start 
hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput will plummet and clients 
will start getting lots of broken connections, just as you describe.

According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active  
(4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case.
  
With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most  
relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or the 
output of vmstat 1 / vmstat -s.

We're monitoring our swap with cacti, and we've never been swapping even 
during high load because we dont let apache spawn enough process to do so.
It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like in  
terms of size, and what your content is like.  For Apache serving mostly 
static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you tend to have 
5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you might well be able to 
run 400+ httpd children.  On the other hand, as soon as you pull in the 
dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, you end up with much larger 
process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more of their memory usage is 
per-process rather than shared, so even with 4GB you probably won't be 
able to run more than 100-150 children before swapping.


Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process :
54326 apache1  960   156M 13108K select 1   0:00  0.15% httpd
54952 apache1  960   156M 12684K select 1   0:00  0.10% httpd
52343 apache1   40   155M 12280K select 0   0:01  0.10% httpd

Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, very 
light PHP processing.


156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for RES). 
Concretely, how must I interpret these results ?

After checking multiple things (MySQL, networks, CPU, RAM) when a drop 
occurs, we determined that everytimes there is drop, the number is 
Apache's process is MaxClients (ps aux | grep httpd | wc -l) and the 
new http request doesn't get answer from Apache (the TCP hanshakes 
completes but Apache never push the data).
  
Yes, that aspect is going to be the same pretty much no matter what the 
bottleneck is or how large you set MaxClients to.  You will end up with 
significantly better results (fewer drops, higher aggregate throughput) 
if you tune appropriately than if you try to ramp MaxClients up further 
than the available hardware can support.

At the moment, the MaxClients isn't higher than the hardware can 
support, but it will if i raise it again. I've gone through the Apache's 
doc concerning high load tuning and did all that can be done on the fly 
(without downtime). We were already planning to add another webserver 
soon, but maybe not that soon :)
You might find that checking out the URLs being most commonly listed in 
http://yourdomain.com/server-status when you run into high load problems 
will point towards a particular script or dynamic content which is 
causing a bottleneck.


Thanks for the tips, i'll take a look at this.


One of the problems here is that the individual reporting the problem is
basing all of his conclusions on the first couple lines of top(1)
output, and is not bothering to look at per-process RSS or SZ.  I have
lots of Inactive RAM, so what's the problem!??!

We should probably take the time to explain to the user the fact that
shared pages per process != amount of RAM that's been touched/used at
one point but is currently unused.  Without someone explaining how the
VM works in this regard, he's going to continue to be confused and
correlate things which aren't necessarily related.
  
Right ! I would really appreciate few explanation on this. Do the shared 
pages counts as active or inactive RAM ? How can i calculate how much 
physical RAM an apache process is taking ? How the VM works in this 
regard ? ;)


Thanks everyone !

Francis Dube
RD
Optik Securite
www.optiksecurite.com

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Re: Looking for the right FreeBSD.iso

2008-10-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:16:04PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote:
  Jerry McAllister wrote:
   Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste 
  3 CDs
 from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet  
  connection.
  So
  wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do?
 
  Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to
  things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning
  (or almost that far back).I have never done a complete install from
  a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install 
  program and then done the install over the net.   I've been doing that 
  for more than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter.   Others 
  have
  done so much longer.
 
  But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to do  
  installs over the net.   Their service is inadequate or, in some
  cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available
  to them on disk as well.
 
  Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and
  not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed
  out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the 
  net.   But, I haven't checked recent versions.  The other CDs contain 
  the sources for various ports and some special case things.
 
  jerry
 
  This is still the behavior. You can install any of the base
  distributions for that release with only disc 1, as well as some of the
  ports. I have had issues booting the netinstall cds for some reason, and
  installing the distribution from the cd goes faster anyway.
 
 Just make sure that if you choose src or ports, that you properly
 adopt your src and ports trees.  (This is why I often advocate not
 installing src/ports from CD/DVD/FTP/whatever, and instead using
 csup once the box is up and working).

Do you really mean  'update'  instead of adopt

Otherwise, I don't know what you mean by adopt in this context.

jerry
  
 
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Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC

2008-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:44:49AM -0400, Francis Dubé wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick a écrit :
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56:30PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
   
 On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote:
 
 You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your 
 system can run under high load; generally the amount of system 
 memory is the governing factor. [1]  If you set your MaxClients 
 higher than that, your system will start swapping under the load 
 and once you start hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput 
 will plummet and clients will start getting lots of broken 
 connections, just as you describe.
 
 According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active 
  (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case.
   
 With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most  
 relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or 
 the output of vmstat 1 / vmstat -s.
 
 We're monitoring our swap with cacti, and we've never been swapping even  
 during high load because we dont let apache spawn enough process to do 
 so.

I'm not sure you fully understand the concept of swapping (the term can
be used for a multitude of things).  :-)  Some processes which sit
idle/unused will have portions of their memory swapped out (to
swap/disk) to allow for actively running processes to utilise physical
memory.  This is something to keep in mind.

 It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like 
 in  terms of size, and what your content is like.  For Apache serving 
 mostly static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you 
 tend to have 5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you 
 might well be able to run 400+ httpd children.  On the other hand, as 
 soon as you pull in the dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, 
 you end up with much larger process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more 
 of their memory usage is per-process rather than shared, so even with 
 4GB you probably won't be able to run more than 100-150 children 
 before swapping.
 
 Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process :
 54326 apache1  960   156M 13108K select 1   0:00  0.15% httpd
 54952 apache1  960   156M 12684K select 1   0:00  0.10% httpd
 52343 apache1   40   155M 12280K select 0   0:01  0.10% httpd

 Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, very  
 light PHP processing.

 156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for RES).  
 Concretely, how must I interpret these results ?

It's as I expected -- you don't understand the difference between
SIZE (SZ) and RES (RSS).  The simple version:

SIZE == amount of memory that's shared across all processes on the
machine, e.g. shared libraries.  It doesn't mean 156MB is being taken
up per process.

RES == amount of memory that's specifically allocated to that individual
process.  The three httpd processes above are taking up a total of
~38MBytes of memory (13108K + 12684K + 12280K).

 Right ! I would really appreciate few explanation on this. Do the shared  
 pages counts as active or inactive RAM ? How can i calculate how much  
 physical RAM an apache process is taking ? How the VM works in this  
 regard ? ;)

Others will have to explain the shared memory/pages aspect, as it's
beyond my understanding.  But recent versions of 7.0 and 7.1-PRERELEASE
contain a tool called procstat(1) which can help you break down the
memory usage within a process.

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Security | Kernel message

2008-10-28 Thread Jos Chrispijn

A prt of my daily security run:

triton.xxx.xxx.xxx kernel log messages:
+++ /tmp/security.VnqB8ZT6  2008-10-27 23:53:32.0 +0100
+em0: link state changed to DOWN
+em0: link state changed to UP
+em0: link state changed to DOWN
+em0: link state changed to UP
+em0: link state changed to DOWN
+em0: link state changed to UP

Is there a way of adding the time on every DOWN and UP line?

Jos Chrispijn

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Re: Looking for the right FreeBSD.iso

2008-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:01:28PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:16:04PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 
  On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote:
   Jerry McAllister wrote:
Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste 
   3 CDs
  from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet  
   connection.
   So
   wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do?
  
   Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to
   things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning
   (or almost that far back).I have never done a complete install from
   a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install 
   program and then done the install over the net.   I've been doing that 
   for more than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter.   Others 
   have
   done so much longer.
  
   But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to do  
   installs over the net.   Their service is inadequate or, in some
   cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available
   to them on disk as well.
  
   Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and
   not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed
   out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the 
   net.   But, I haven't checked recent versions.  The other CDs contain 
   the sources for various ports and some special case things.
  
   jerry
  
   This is still the behavior. You can install any of the base
   distributions for that release with only disc 1, as well as some of the
   ports. I have had issues booting the netinstall cds for some reason, and
   installing the distribution from the cd goes faster anyway.
  
  Just make sure that if you choose src or ports, that you properly
  adopt your src and ports trees.  (This is why I often advocate not
  installing src/ports from CD/DVD/FTP/whatever, and instead using
  csup once the box is up and working).
 
 Do you really mean  'update'  instead of adopt
 
 Otherwise, I don't know what you mean by adopt in this context.

Nope, I said adopt and I do in fact mean adopt.  The below site is
for cvsup, but what I'm describing affects csup as well -- it's just
the nature of the beast.

http://www.cvsup.org/faq.html#caniadopt

The simple version of why this is necessary: when you install src or
ports from the installation media, there is no associated CVS database
to cross-reference what version of the file correlates with what on the
cvsup server.  The databases are stored in /var/db/sup (or /usr/sup
if you're using a very old version of FreeBSD with very old supfiles).
Thus, adopting means you need to create those databases to make sure
the cvsup/csup tools are truly in sync with what exists on your
filesystem (in /usr/src and /usr/ports).

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Re: Security | Kernel message

2008-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:26:03PM +0100, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
 A prt of my daily security run:

 triton.xxx.xxx.xxx kernel log messages:
 +++ /tmp/security.VnqB8ZT62008-10-27 23:53:32.0 +0100
 +em0: link state changed to DOWN
 +em0: link state changed to UP
 +em0: link state changed to DOWN
 +em0: link state changed to UP
 +em0: link state changed to DOWN
 +em0: link state changed to UP

 Is there a way of adding the time on every DOWN and UP line?

No, because the messages are in the kernel log.  The kernel itself does
not print timestamps, because that's silly.

Try doing this:

1) Edit /etc/syslog.conf and enable /var/log/all.log,
2) touch /var/log/all.log
3) chown root:wheel /var/log/all.log
4) chmod 600 /var/log/all.log
5) killall -HUP syslogd

Then wait until the next event, and examine /var/log/all.log, which will
contain timestamps.

Also, are you seeing any watchdog timeout events on em0 as well?  If
so, please read the Network devices section of my Wiki regarding what
this problem could be (specific to certain models of Intel 82573 NIC):

http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/Commonly_reported_issues

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Re: Security | Kernel message

2008-10-28 Thread Jos Chrispijn

Jeremy,

Uit een eerder bericht (28-10-2008 17:32):

No, because the messages are in the kernel log.  The kernel itself does
not print timestamps, because that's silly.
  

Yes that is .true.

Try doing this:
  

Great, will do that! No 'watchdog timeout' events yet :-)

thanks for sharing,
Jos Chrispijn
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Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC

2008-10-28 Thread Francis Dubé

Jeremy Chadwick a écrit :

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:44:49AM -0400, Francis Dubé wrote:
  

Jeremy Chadwick a écrit :


On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56:30PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
  
  

On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote:


You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your 
system can run under high load; generally the amount of system 
memory is the governing factor. [1]  If you set your MaxClients 
higher than that, your system will start swapping under the load 
and once you start hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput 
will plummet and clients will start getting lots of broken 
connections, just as you describe.


According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active 
 (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case.
  
  
With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most  
relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or 
the output of vmstat 1 / vmstat -s.


We're monitoring our swap with cacti, and we've never been swapping even  
during high load because we dont let apache spawn enough process to do 
so.



I'm not sure you fully understand the concept of swapping (the term can
be used for a multitude of things).  :-)  Some processes which sit
idle/unused will have portions of their memory swapped out (to
swap/disk) to allow for actively running processes to utilise physical
memory.  This is something to keep in mind.

  
It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like 
in  terms of size, and what your content is like.  For Apache serving 
mostly static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you 
tend to have 5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you 
might well be able to run 400+ httpd children.  On the other hand, as 
soon as you pull in the dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, 
you end up with much larger process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more 
of their memory usage is per-process rather than shared, so even with 
4GB you probably won't be able to run more than 100-150 children 
before swapping.



Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process :
54326 apache1  960   156M 13108K select 1   0:00  0.15% httpd
54952 apache1  960   156M 12684K select 1   0:00  0.10% httpd
52343 apache1   40   155M 12280K select 0   0:01  0.10% httpd

Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, very  
light PHP processing.


156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for RES).  
Concretely, how must I interpret these results ?



It's as I expected -- you don't understand the difference between
SIZE (SZ) and RES (RSS).  The simple version:

SIZE == amount of memory that's shared across all processes on the
machine, e.g. shared libraries.  It doesn't mean 156MB is being taken
up per process.

RES == amount of memory that's specifically allocated to that individual
process.  The three httpd processes above are taking up a total of
~38MBytes of memory (13108K + 12684K + 12280K).
  


As I said, even with RES the numbers dont seems to have any sense.

Let's say 12500K x 450 = ~5500MBytes. Considering there's a lot of 
process other than Apache running on the server...there's something 
wrong. Is there something shared in RES too ?


  
Right ! I would really appreciate few explanation on this. Do the shared  
pages counts as active or inactive RAM ? How can i calculate how much  
physical RAM an apache process is taking ? How the VM works in this  
regard ? ;)



Others will have to explain the shared memory/pages aspect, as it's
beyond my understanding.  But recent versions of 7.0 and 7.1-PRERELEASE
contain a tool called procstat(1) which can help you break down the
memory usage within a process.

  

Our next server will be in 7.0 for sure.

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Re: almost OT os x

2008-10-28 Thread Mikel King


On Oct 27, 2008, at 11:06 PM, kalin m wrote:






Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19:56PM -0400, kalin m wrote:

this is a bit OT but since bsd and os x have enough in common in  
the  core some people here might have dealt with an os x server  
before..


ok. here is the problem. i have this os x server put on my lap to   
administer and there are some really weired things happening.


the machine has 2 inet interfaces - 2 cards. one of them - en0  
(network  A) - is wired to 192.168.x.x and the other - en1  
(network B) - has an  external ip which is not on the same subnet  
(network)  the 192.168.x.x  belongs to. so far so good.


theoretically the en1 (network B) card should be accessible  
through the  external ip no matter where you a coming from


what happens is that if somebody on network A (of en0)  tries to  
access  the machine via 192.168.x.x - it works. but if that  
somebody wants  access that machine via the external ip on network  
B (en1), like they  would access any other external IP -  they can  
not. this is weired  because they can access any other machine on  
B . now me being on the  network B i can access the machine via  
the external IP which is also on  B, but, and this is the  
weirdest, i can not access it from outside  either A or B with  
that same IP (?!?).  but i can access any other  machine on B from  
outside either subnet


What you're describing sounds like a network loopback problem (at  
least

this is what the Linux folks refer to it as).

I would recommend you re-post this question to freebsd-net, as  
someone
there can explain to you what's happening in detail, why it  
happens, and

how to solve it effectively.


ok. will try there. thanks


Also, keep in mind that the FreeBSD and OS X have enough in common
concept is a horrible one -- they do have some pieces in common, but
OS X really *is* quite a different beast in numerous respects.   
Apple,
sincerely and honestly, has tinkered with all sorts of pieces.   
Please

keep that in mind.  :-)


ok too.  i kinda used that as an excuse to post here cause nobody  
over there - on some os x lists and forums - was trying to help. and  
having found a lot of solutions on this list as a long time freebsd  
user i though i'd give it a shot


thanks


Kalin,

	Did you add a specific route for the alternative network? I know this  
may sound crazy but for whatever reason Macs don't override the  
default route automatically. You would think that any attached  
ethernet device would be considered a best route to that LAN however I  
have had experience otherwise.


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camcontrol(8) - Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase

2008-10-28 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I cannot get my scsi scanner detected.

I'm using FBSD 8.0-current on i386.
I'm trying to connect a scsi scanner.
I've the following card:

ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xff8ff000-0xff8f
 irq 10 at device 0.0 on pci1
ahc0: [ITHREAD]
aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs

The scanner's SCSI ID is 6 and it is switched on at boot.

I get the following in dmesg:

Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
(probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe1:ahc0:0:1:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe2:ahc0:0:2:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe3:ahc0:0:3:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe5:ahc0:0:5:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe7:ahc0:0:8:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe8:ahc0:0:9:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe9:ahc0:0:10:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe10:ahc0:0:11:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe11:ahc0:0:12:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe12:ahc0:0:13:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe13:ahc0:0:14:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe14:ahc0:0:15:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase
SEQADDR == 0x170

and each time I run
# camcontrol rescan all
Re-scan of bus 0 was successful
#

I get these lines added to dmesg:

(probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase
SEQADDR == 0x170

and nothing is detected:

I'm sure I miss something out, so I don't think this is a `currnet' issue.

Any advice?

many thanks
anton


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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Dánielisz László
Hello!

I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without 
success.
I remaing curios about any solution.

Laci





From: Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:59:23 PM
Subject: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

Hello!

I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my FreeBSD-7/amd64 
system.

If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser crashes 
quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, the 
wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the plugin does 
not work...

It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these problems 
(is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks,

-mi
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A gmirror question.

2008-10-28 Thread Stefan Moro
Hi!

I've got a question regarding the way that gmirror identifies what
components (if that is the right term) are included in a mirror.

I recently created a mirror over two disks, ad2 and ad4. After some
bios changes (activating PATA) these devices were changed to ad6 and
ad10 respectively.
The magic thing (which probably isn't so magic =) ) here is that
after reboot, gmirror still managed to identify the mirror, now using
ad6 and ad10.

If I have understood things correctly, gmirror stores all relevant
information about the mirror in the last sector on the provider.

So I guess one possible solution is that gmirror ,during startup,
scans all disks/slices for this magic sector and then starts the
mirror.
But if this is the case, how does gmirror know that it should use (in
my example above) ad10 and not ad4 as the additional disk in the
mirror.
Or does gmirror use something else than the /dev entries to address disks??

I'm just curious how gmirror does this.


BR Stefan
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Re: VLAN filtering on FreeBSD 7.0 / 6.3

2008-10-28 Thread Jack Vogel
This change requires kernel changes that may not be compatible with 6.X, I
am not sure,
I am not the owner of that code.  Some reason you can't use 7.1 which will
have everything
you need?

TSO is a hardware feature, I have never tested this, but my suspicion is
that if
its enabled on the hardware that it will transparently happen in the
outbound
TX stream, but I am not sure.

Jack


On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Yony Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 I have two questions about VLANs on FreeBSD 6.3/7.0.

 1.
 I'm trying to understand whether HW VLAN filtering can be supported.
 Looking at the code I can't find a proper ioctl that will inform the driver
 about a vlan creation/destruction.
 Is there a way of doing it?

 2.
 Second issue - is there way of enabling TSO on vlan interfaces?

 Thanks
 Yony

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How can I get the screenshots only under the command-line?

2008-10-28 Thread zhenghua wang
I wanna get some screenshots of my command-line-only system(8-current),how
can I perform this?
Thanks a lot,looking forward to your mail.
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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread User Lenzi
Em Ter, 2008-10-28 às 07:41 -0700, Dánielisz László escreveu:

 Hello!
 
 I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without 
 success.
 I remaing curios about any solution.
 
 Laci
 

Me too, I am using a market  aproach, that is:  
I intend to persuade a notebook producer, to sell the
machines with FreeBSD 7.x or FreeBSD 8.x 
about 3000 machines/month... and without the flash10
working. May  be in a month they will start shipping...
core 2, 2Gb memory, 250Gb disk, 12 display 1280x800, wireless,
camera. for about US$800

As I show them the numbers (about 40k machines/year...)
I hope they will make a FreeBSD port...

I count on people from FreeBSD list to show the numbers
to adobe

Sergio

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread matt donovan
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Dánielisz László 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello!

 I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without
 success.
 I remaing curios about any solution.

 Laci




 
 From: Mikhail Teterin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:59:23 PM
 Subject: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

 Hello!

 I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my
 FreeBSD-7/amd64
 system.

 If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser crashes
 quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, the
 wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the plugin
 does
 not work...

 It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these
 problems
 (is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks,

-mi
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FreeBSD 7.1 should work with flash9 myself I had no luck so far but nox-
does say it should work
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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Mikhail Teterin

Sent by Glyn Millington:

My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far
it works flawlessly for me.
  

This has two problems:

  1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy.
  2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is
 what I'm using.

   -mi

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NFS Help

2008-10-28 Thread Victor Farah

Hello
	I have about 10 machines that are NFS clients, 5 are new and 5 are 
older.  Anyway the new machine mount from the NFS server just fine.
The older machines mount; and I can ls /mnt/data/; BUT when I ls 
/mnt/data/sc/ on the older machines this happens:

nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding

But on the new machines they work perfectly fine?
As well the old machines mount it as i stated before I can even ls the 
parent directory /mnt/data/ and it shows me all the directories on the 
mount, but anytime I ls or do anything inside there it does that or freezes.


Any idea's?

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Mikhail Teterin

Sent by matt donovan:
FreeBSD 7.1 should work with flash9 myself I had no luck so far but 
nox- does say it should work
I'm using 7.1-PRERELEASE as of Sep 23 and it does not work (yet?) 
Juergen, please, confirm, that your fixes were committed after Sep 23 -- 
I'll be happy to rebuild/reboot in that case. Thank you very much! Yours,


   -mi


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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Glyn Millington
Dánielisz László [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello!

 I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without 
 success.
 I remaing curios about any solution.


Szia!

To be honest I gave up with Flash for either the FreeBSD or Linux version
of Firefox.  Couldn't get it to work properly.

My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox.  So far
it works flawlessly for me.

Mw notes are here :-
http://www.millingtons.eclipse.co.uk/glyn/freebsd.html

look for the section headed Flash? Windows!

atb

Glyn
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Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC

2008-10-28 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Francis Dubé wrote:

Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process :
54326 apache1  960   156M 13108K select 1   0:00   
0.15% httpd
54952 apache1  960   156M 12684K select 1   0:00   
0.10% httpd
52343 apache1   40   155M 12280K select 0   0:01   
0.10% httpd


Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages,  
very light PHP processing.


156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for  
RES).  Concretely, how must I interpret these results?


First, your Apache children are huge, at least for FreeBSD.  :-)   
Also, they are mostly paged out, which suggests your system is under  
significant VM pressure, but the vmstat output would be helpful to  
confirm.



It's as I expected -- you don't understand the difference between
SIZE (SZ) and RES (RSS).  The simple version:

SIZE == amount of memory that's shared across all processes on the
machine, e.g. shared libraries.  It doesn't mean 156MB is being  
taken

up per process.


SIZE == the amount of VM address space allocated by the process.

It includes things shared (copy-on-write) between many processes like  
the shared libraries; it also includes memory-mapped files  
(including .so's like apache modules being loaded into the process),  
VM allocated but not yet used by malloc()/brk(), the stack, and so  
forth.


RES == amount of memory that's specifically allocated to that  
individual

process.  The three httpd processes above are taking up a total of
~38MBytes of memory (13108K + 12684K + 12280K).


RES == the amount of process VM that is resident in actual physical  
RAM; the rest of the process is paged out to the swapfile or  
filesystem for memory-mapped files.



As I said, even with RES the numbers dont seems to have any sense.

Let's say 12500K x 450 = ~5500MBytes. Considering there's a lot of  
process other than Apache running on the server...there's something  
wrong. Is there something shared in RES too ?


Yep.  Quite probably a lot, but the amount of memory which is specific  
to just that process is not easily found from FreeBSD's top,  
regrettably.


For the sake of example, and because the same explanation applies  
pretty closly to FreeBSD, consider an httpd running on a MacOSX  
system.  Here's top output, which includes columns RPRVT for  
resident memory used by just this process, RSHRD which is  
resident, shared with other processes, RSIZE which is FreeBSD's  
RES, and VSIZE, which is FreeBSD's SIZE:


Processes:  136 total, 4 running, 132 sleeping... 215 threads 
11:06:40
Load Avg:  1.71, 1.66, 1.62 CPU usage:  12.5% user, 59.7% sys,  
27.8% idle
SharedLibs: num =  141, resident = 18.3M code, 2.92M data, 6.40M  
LinkEdit

MemRegions: num = 10360, resident =  101M + 5.91M private,  159M shared
PhysMem:   159M wired,  252M active, 99.0M inactive,  510M used, 1.50G  
free

VM: 7.16G + 88.8M   1378510(0) pageins, 88743(0) pageouts

  PID COMMAND  %CPU   TIME   #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT  RSHRD   
RSIZE  VSIZE
 2868 httpd0.0% 43:21.28   11292  1.82M   144M   
72.9M   169M
 2869 httpd0.0% 46:29.45   11292  1.95M   144M   
73.2M   169M
 2870 httpd0.0% 46:55.84   11292  1.89M   144M   
73.0M   169M


...and the vmmap command, documented here:

  
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/vmmap.1.html

...provides detailed info about a single process' VM usage:

# vmmap 2870
Virtual Memory Map of process 2870 (httpd)
Output report format:  2.0

 Non-writable regions for process 2870
__PAGEZERO -1000 [4K] ---/--- SM=NUL  /usr/ 
sbin/httpd
__TEXT 1000-0005 [  316K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /usr/ 
sbin/httpd
__LINKEDIT 0005a000-00065000 [   44K] r--/rwx SM=COW  /usr/ 
sbin/httpd
__TEXT 00065000-00068000 [   12K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /usr/ 
libexec/httpd/mod_log_config.so
__LINKEDIT 00069000-0006a000 [4K] r--/rwx SM=COW  /usr/ 
libexec/httpd/mod_log_config.so
__TEXT 0006a000-0006c000 [8K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /usr/ 
libexec/httpd/mod_mime.so
__LINKEDIT 0006d000-0006e000 [4K] r--/rwx SM=COW  /usr/ 
libexec/httpd/mod_mime.so

[ ... ]
__DATA a1a0e000-a1a2 [   72K] r--/r-- SM=COW  /usr/ 
lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib
__DATA a1a2-a1a23000 [   12K] r--/r-- SM=COW  /usr/ 
lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib
__DATA a4f2c000-a4f2f000 [   12K] r--/r-- SM=COW  /usr/ 
lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib
__DATA a7233000-a7235000 [8K] r--/r-- SM=NUL  / 
System/Library/Perl/lib/5.8/libperl.dylib
system fffec000-fffef000 [   12K] ---/rwx SM=NUL   
commpage [libobjc.A.dylib]
system fffef000- [4K] r-x/rwx SM=COW   
commpage [libobjc.A.dylib]
system 8000-a000 [8K] r--/r-- SM=SHM   
commpage [libSystem.B.dylib]


 

Re: NFS Help

2008-10-28 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
If your server is nfsv4 (freebsd 7.x)
the nfs protocol used is tcp.

The older machines (freebsd 5 or 6) 
the nfs prococol is udp...

try to use the -T switch (mount_nfs option...) on the older machines

so they will use tcp...

hope this will help


Sergio
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Re: How can I get the screenshots only under the command-line?

2008-10-28 Thread Chuck Swiger

Hi--

On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, zhenghua wang wrote:
I wanna get some screenshots of my command-line-only system(8- 
current),how

can I perform this?
Thanks a lot,looking forward to your mail.


See man vidcontrol, as in:

 The following command will capture the contents of the first  
virtual ter-

 minal, and redirect the output to the shot.scr file:

   vidcontrol -p  /dev/ttyv0  shot.scr

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Re: NFS Help

2008-10-28 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Victor Farah wrote:

Hello
I have about 10 machines that are NFS clients, 5 are new and 5 are 
older.  Anyway the new machine mount from the NFS server just fine.
The older machines mount; and I can ls /mnt/data/; BUT when I ls 
/mnt/data/sc/ on the older machines this happens:

nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding

But on the new machines they work perfectly fine?
As well the old machines mount it as i stated before I can even ls the 
parent directory /mnt/data/ and it shows me all the directories on the 
mount, but anytime I ls or do anything inside there it does that or 
freezes.


Any idea's?


How old are these old systems? Do you have any ISA type ethernet cards?

Read Handbook's section 30.3.6:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html

I actually had this kind of trouble once, and it was due to  an ISA 
network card. I doubt you are really using an ISA card in a production 
system, but some of the remedies described in the section may give you a 
hint of what is going on.

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vlc not decoding certain DVDs

2008-10-28 Thread Joachim Rosenfeld
Why is vlc (the CSS library specifically) unable to decode certain
CDs? Certain foreign film CDs work fine, but others, mostly US-based
Hollywood films don't. I was under the impression that vlc was able to
decode everything? I can hear audio on these DVDs, but the video is
weird blocks of color.

The weird thing is that if I run vlc under WINE, everything works
fine. The movie plays, but fullscreen doesn't work and the interface
is really horrible on vlc/wine.

Any solutions on how to fix this?

I am running 7.0-RELEASE on an x86 box.

All ports are up to date as of 3 days ago.
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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Juergen Lock
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 01:49:34PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
 Sent by matt donovan:
 FreeBSD 7.1 should work with flash9 myself I had no luck so far but nox- 
 does say it should work
 I'm using 7.1-PRERELEASE as of Sep 23 and it does not work (yet?) Juergen, 
 please, confirm, that your fixes

(actually its not _my_ fixes, I only merged one of them for 6...)

  were committed after Sep 23 -- I'll be 
 happy to rebuild/reboot in that case. Thank you very much! Yours,

 Yes, as I said,
http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=184075
was committed Oct 20 11:15:57 2008.

 HTH,
Juergen
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flash9 checklist (was: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD)

2008-10-28 Thread Juergen Lock
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 08:59:23AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my FreeBSD-7/amd64 
 system.
 
 If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser crashes 
 quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, the 
 wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the plugin does 
 not work...
 
 It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these problems 
 (is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks,
 
   -mi

Preliminary checklist for getting flash9 to work in native firefox:
(flash10 needs more ports work, I shall post about that seperately on
-emulation...)  If you have additions to this please post a followup to
this thread, keeping the Cc: (I'm not on -questions...)

1. You need RELENG_7 from at least Mon Oct 20 11:15:57 2008 UTC
(the relevant MFC commits are:
http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=183819
http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=184075
- a recent HEAD should also work of course.)  There are linprocfs patches
for RELENG_6 too (merging the former commit), but the latter commit can't
be merged to 6 (and 7.0) since they lack the cpuset bits, so flash9
probably won't work on SMP there.  (Although if you have SMP you probably
should be running 7 anyway. :)  Oh and if you do have SMP you also need to
use the ULE scheduler, the cpuset syscalls are not supported with 4BSD.
linprocfs patches for 6:
http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.3.patch
http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.4.patch

2. Your portstree needs to be from at least Sun Oct 19 17:37:28 2008 UTC
(the last www/linux-flashplugin9 commit is:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-October/158404.html
)

3. Make sure linprocfs is mounted to /compat/linux/proc .

4. Make sure www/nspluginwrapper, www/linux-flashplugin9 and dependencies
are installed and up to date(!).  (the default emulators/linux_base-fc4
should work, if you want to use a later one don't forget to set
compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 in sysctl.conf and OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT
to whichever version you use in make.conf.  Note however that on 6, only
the default compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 really works.)

5. If the plugin doesnt show up in firefox' about:plugins, run
nspluginwrapper -i 
/usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
and restart firefox.

6. And remember there's a security advisory for the current version of
flash9,

http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/78f456fd-9c87-11dd-a55e-00163e16.html
(if you use portaudit you need to `make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES ...'
to be able to install the port), and fc4 seems to be eol'd too, so you
probably want to install something like the noscript firefox extension,
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722
and only allow plugins (and scripts, tho thats a different problem) on
sites you trust...

 And finally, if you still get crashes after following the above even
on pages that are reported to work now (like youtube) you probably want
to run `ktrace -di firefox...' and look at the output using linux_kdump
(thats the devel/linux_kdump port, you want to use a package), paying
specific attention to the lines above `PSIG SIGSEGV' (or whichever
signal you got), maybe there are still shlibs missing that the plugin
needs (NAMI ...something.so...), and if this is the case tell us about
it so the appropriate dependencies can be added to the relevant ports.
If you can't figure it out I guess it doesn't hurt to post the last
few 100 lines of the dump up to the relevant PSIG on -emulation...

 You may also want to check linked shlibs like this:
/compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd 
/usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
and
/compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd 
/usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin
(if you see `not found' in there you know something is wrong) - although
that doesn't show libs that may be dlopen()d at runtime.

 Good luck,
Juergen
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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Craig Butler



On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:08 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
 Sent by Glyn Millington:
  My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far
  it works flawlessly for me.

 This has two problems:
 
1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy.
2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is
   what I'm using.
 
 -mi
 
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The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon  I
think that project is moving leaps and bounds.  

Why be tied into proprietary closed sourced drivel that the people who
write it aren't prepared to support a decent Operating System ??

gnash all the way for me..

Regards

Craig B

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Re: gnash (Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD)

2008-10-28 Thread Craig Butler
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:34 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
 Sent by Craig Butler:
  gnash all the way for me..

 Does it work with YouTube?
 
 -mi
 

Some of the video's work on youtube with the gnash-devel

I think there is an issue with the videos that use the On2 VP62 codec...
(again another closed sourced codec no suprise there !)

It is a work in progress, but it works good enough for me.  I am sure
the developers will work the little niggles out.

I am not overly concerned about the VP62 tho, we should have a choice !

Go on give it a try see if it works for you... No loss if it doesn't.

Regards

Craig B

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Re: NFS Help

2008-10-28 Thread Victor Farah
AWESOME this worked like a charm, I added -r=1024 to it and BAM works! 
:) Thank you everybody!


Manolis Kiagias wrote:

Victor Farah wrote:

Hello
I have about 10 machines that are NFS clients, 5 are new and 5 are 
older.  Anyway the new machine mount from the NFS server just fine.
The older machines mount; and I can ls /mnt/data/; BUT when I ls 
/mnt/data/sc/ on the older machines this happens:

nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding
nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding

But on the new machines they work perfectly fine?
As well the old machines mount it as i stated before I can even ls the 
parent directory /mnt/data/ and it shows me all the directories on the 
mount, but anytime I ls or do anything inside there it does that or 
freezes.


Any idea's?


How old are these old systems? Do you have any ISA type ethernet cards?

Read Handbook's section 30.3.6:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html

I actually had this kind of trouble once, and it was due to  an ISA 
network card. I doubt you are really using an ISA card in a production 
system, but some of the remedies described in the section may give you a 
hint of what is going on.





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netmediaservices.net
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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Robert Huff

Craig Butler writes:

  The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon
  I think that project is moving leaps and bounds.

The last time I tried it (2-3 months ago) gnash was no
more funnctional than Flash 9.

  Why be tied into proprietary closed sourced drivel that the
  people who write it aren't prepared to support a decent Operating
  System ??

I have read - some place that made me give it credence - that
while Flash 10 /in se/ will not necessarily be more non-(Windows/
OS X) friendly, Actionscript (which as I understand it is the link
between the broswer and Flash) was being developed in
... consultation if not necessaeily cooperation ... with the open
source community and there was reasonable hope a formal spec might
made freely available.
Mind you, this was a year (maybe more) ago.  I have no idea how
that turned out, or even if it was accurate yo begin with.


Robert Huff

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:40:28PM -0200, User Lenzi wrote:

 Em Ter, 2008-10-28 às 07:41 -0700, Dánielisz László escreveu:
 
  Hello!
  
  I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without 
  success.
  I remaing curios about any solution.
  
  Laci
  
 
 Me too, I am using a market  aproach, that is:  
 I intend to persuade a notebook producer, to sell the
 machines with FreeBSD 7.x or FreeBSD 8.x 
 about 3000 machines/month... and without the flash10
 working. May  be in a month they will start shipping...
 core 2, 2Gb memory, 250Gb disk, 12 display 1280x800, wireless,
 camera. for about US$800
 
 As I show them the numbers (about 40k machines/year...)
 I hope they will make a FreeBSD port...

Good.   I hope you can pull it off.

jerry


 
 I count on people from FreeBSD list to show the numbers
 to adobe
 
 Sergio
 
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Re: vlc not decoding certain DVDs

2008-10-28 Thread matt donovan
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Joachim Rosenfeld
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Why is vlc (the CSS library specifically) unable to decode certain
 CDs? Certain foreign film CDs work fine, but others, mostly US-based
 Hollywood films don't. I was under the impression that vlc was able to
 decode everything? I can hear audio on these DVDs, but the video is
 weird blocks of color.

 The weird thing is that if I run vlc under WINE, everything works
 fine. The movie plays, but fullscreen doesn't work and the interface
 is really horrible on vlc/wine.

 Any solutions on how to fix this?

 I am running 7.0-RELEASE on an x86 box.

 All ports are up to date as of 3 days ago.
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umm VLC hasn't been able to decode everything for quite a long time install
libdvdcss
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gnash (Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD)

2008-10-28 Thread Mikhail Teterin

Sent by Craig Butler:

gnash all the way for me..
  

Does it work with YouTube?

   -mi

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RTLD changes for non-native system (was: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit ?binaries?)

2008-10-28 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Tue, 28 Oct 2008  
10:18:10 +1030):



On Tuesday 28 October 2008 01:31:16 M. Warner Losh wrote:

In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Daniel O'Connor wrote:
:   On Friday 24 October 2008 23:20:59 Peter Jeremy wrote:
: this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit
: program. it can't work
:   
:rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs.
:  
:   The same problem happens with the Linux run time linker - it merrily
:   tries to link FreeBSD libraries to Linux binaries with predictable
:   results..
:
: You *can* link Linux libraries with FreeBSD binaries (and
: vice versa), if the library does not perform any syscalls,
: e.g. it is a pure computation library or similar.
:
:   That said it would be really nice if it ignored incompatible libraries
:   :)
:
: No.  Please don't put such pseudo-cleverness into rtld.
: It wouldn't be an improvement, in fact it might break some
: working configurations.

Yes.  I have a bunch of printer drivers that I've used that link in
linux shared libraries...  They are in ports...


Good point..
The problem is really the Linux linker - it will find a FreeBSD library and
try and use it ahead of a Linux one later in the search path - this prevents
stuff working :)

I have this exact problem with libfontconfig and Xilinx ISE.

Perhaps instead of ignore, use last.. But then it doesn't really matter for
the FreeBSD linker - I imagine I would have to convince Linux folks it's a
good idea.


Please ignore for a moment that we are not talking about changing the  
FreeBSD RTLD anymore:
Would it make sense (for us and/or for GNU) to first search for libs  
for the current system and if none are found to try the others?


Bye,
Alexander.

--
There is hardly a thing in the world that some man can
not make a little worse and sell a little cheaper.

http://www.Leidinger.netAlexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7
http://www.FreeBSD.org   netchild @ FreeBSD.org  : PGP ID = 72077137
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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 13:31:13 Craig Butler wrote:

 The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon  I
 think that project is moving leaps and bounds.

Any idea how to get the Firefox plugin working?  I installed it with PLUGIN 
and GTK selected, and /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so is 
there, but about:plugins doesn't reflect it.
-- 
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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread alexus
I'm having issue with flash10 (yet somehow it was working before) and
my co-workers, they are able to run it just fine

I'm running CentOS 5.2, I know it's not FreeBSD, but still maybe
somehow would help...

kernel: npviewer.bin[26449]: segfault at  rip
 rsp ffa21f9c error 14

this is error message I get through messages




On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Craig Butler writes:

  The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon
  I think that project is moving leaps and bounds.

The last time I tried it (2-3 months ago) gnash was no
 more funnctional than Flash 9.

  Why be tied into proprietary closed sourced drivel that the
  people who write it aren't prepared to support a decent Operating
  System ??

I have read - some place that made me give it credence - that
 while Flash 10 /in se/ will not necessarily be more non-(Windows/
 OS X) friendly, Actionscript (which as I understand it is the link
 between the broswer and Flash) was being developed in
 ... consultation if not necessaeily cooperation ... with the open
 source community and there was reasonable hope a formal spec might
 made freely available.
Mind you, this was a year (maybe more) ago.  I have no idea how
 that turned out, or even if it was accurate yo begin with.


Robert Huff

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 02:08:43PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
 Sent by Glyn Millington:
 My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far
 it works flawlessly for me.
   
 This has two problems:
 
   1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy.
   2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is
  what I'm using.
 
-mi
 


Not having the ``*required*'' flash-NN that makes the latest animation 
or
A/V apps is the biggest gripe I have relating to not being able to use
the most stable OS around, FBSD.  Prev'ly when I've asked why sites 
can't
simply use JAVA, I hear that Java is more difficult to use than flash.  
I understand the basic of animation; that about it.  But isn't a better
solution to get gnash up to speed rather than begging Adobe to port
flash-9 or -10 for us?

any thoughts on freeing ourselves from this addiction to flash-* ?

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Kirk Strauser wrote:

On Tuesday 28 October 2008 13:31:13 Craig Butler wrote:

  

The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon  I
think that project is moving leaps and bounds.



Any idea how to get the Firefox plugin working?  I installed it with PLUGIN 
and GTK selected, and /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so is 
there, but about:plugins doesn't reflect it.
  
If it is firefox3 you are talking about, create a symbolic link to the 
actual plugins directory:


ln -s /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so   
/usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins


(repeat for any other plugins you need from browser_plugins that do not 
work. Bear in mind that your browser may crash if they happen to be 
incompatible with firefox3)


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Re: reviving games/freebsd-games

2008-10-28 Thread clemens fischer
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:03:32 +0100 clemens fischer wrote:

 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:57:15 +0100 Jurjen Middendorp wrote:

 If you do char *p = something, you can't write to that string
 (it's a pointer into some stringtable: easy way to look at it
 :). You have to use char p[] = something, then it's an array
 with enough storage to write to :) maybe try something like char
 scrollname[NUMSCROLLS][]; ?

this type of declaration evokes array type has incomplete element
type, which is seen as compliant behaviour by gcc experts.  so this is
a no go.

 I thought I'd clean up that code declaring a real struct like:
 
  struct scrollname_s {
  int active;
  char name[] = ...;
  };

this is what i actually did.  it makes the code way more easier to read
and keep.

 then name could stay read-only.  OTOH I found numerous larn versions,
 so keeping ours compatible might keep maintenance costs down.

I'd still be interested in what others did.

-c

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Re: A gmirror question.

2008-10-28 Thread Chris St Denis

Stefan Moro wrote:

Hi!

I've got a question regarding the way that gmirror identifies what
components (if that is the right term) are included in a mirror.

I recently created a mirror over two disks, ad2 and ad4. After some
bios changes (activating PATA) these devices were changed to ad6 and
ad10 respectively.
The magic thing (which probably isn't so magic =) ) here is that
after reboot, gmirror still managed to identify the mirror, now using
ad6 and ad10.

If I have understood things correctly, gmirror stores all relevant
information about the mirror in the last sector on the provider.

So I guess one possible solution is that gmirror ,during startup,
scans all disks/slices for this magic sector and then starts the
mirror.
But if this is the case, how does gmirror know that it should use (in
my example above) ad10 and not ad4 as the additional disk in the
mirror.
Or does gmirror use something else than the /dev entries to address disks??

I'm just curious how gmirror does this.


BR Stefan
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I don't know the technical details of the internal working of gmirror, 
but it likely uses the volume serial number or other such identifier.

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Kirk Strauser

On Oct 28, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote:

If it is firefox3 you are talking about, create a symbolic link to  
the actual plugins directory:


ln -s /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so   /usr/local/ 
lib/firefox3/plugins



Well, that seems pretty obvious now.  It leads me to wonder, though:  
what browsers *do* look in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins?  Or is that  
just meant to be a convenient place to symlink into?

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Kirk Strauser wrote:

On Oct 28, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote:

If it is firefox3 you are talking about, create a symbolic link to 
the actual plugins directory:


ln -s /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so 
  /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins


Well, that seems pretty obvious now.  It leads me to wonder, though: 
what browsers *do* look in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins?  Or is that 
just meant to be a convenient place to symlink into?

--
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The following excerpt from /usr/ports/UPDATING will completely answer 
your question :)


20080727:
 AFFECTS: users of www/firefox3
 AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Update to 3.0.1_1,1; it no longer seeks for plugins in 
lib/browser_plugins,
 because few plugins that built with Firefox 2 can cause Firefox 3 to 
crash.

 We are working on making some changes with plugins directory by using
 www/linux-mplayer-plugin/Makefile.npapi. If there are some other plugins
 that work with Firefox 3 and you would like to use, you can copy them to
 ~/.mozilla/plugins or /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins manually for now.

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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Kirk Strauser

On Oct 28, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote:

The following excerpt from /usr/ports/UPDATING will completely  
answer your question :)



Sigh.  And I get onto other people for not reading that.  :-D
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Re: vlc not decoding certain DVDs

2008-10-28 Thread Joachim Rosenfeld
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM, matt donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Why is vlc (the CSS library specifically) unable to decode certain
  CDs?

 umm VLC hasn't been able to decode everything for quite a long time install
 libdvdcss

I'll have to go back to that box and check, but I was under the
impression that, under FreeBSD ports at least, vlc installs libdvdcss.
Is this not the case?
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Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD

2008-10-28 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 06:31:13PM +, Craig Butler wrote:
 
 The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon  I
 think that project is moving leaps and bounds.  
 
 Why be tied into proprietary closed sourced drivel that the people who
 write it aren't prepared to support a decent Operating System ??
 
 gnash all the way for me..

I've had better luck with swfdec than gnash.

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Q: What's wrong with top-posting?


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Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC

2008-10-28 Thread Francis Dubé

Chuck Swiger a écrit :

On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Francis Dubé wrote:

Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process :
54326 apache1  960   156M 13108K select 1   0:00  0.15% 
httpd
54952 apache1  960   156M 12684K select 1   0:00  0.10% 
httpd
52343 apache1   40   155M 12280K select 0   0:01  0.10% 
httpd


Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, 
very light PHP processing.


156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for 
RES).  Concretely, how must I interpret these results?


First, your Apache children are huge, at least for FreeBSD.  :-)  
Also, they are mostly paged out, which suggests your system is under 
significant VM pressure, but the vmstat output would be helpful to 
confirm.

I'll try to remove some useless modules.

Here's the output of vmstat, i should've pasted it in the previous 
message, sorry about that.


vmstat -s
3777275311 cpu context switches
2105577673 device interrupts
359873900 software interrupts
2670696893 traps
2635245695 system calls
  43 kernel threads created
4271  fork() calls
  824925 vfork() calls
   0 rfork() calls
5130 swap pager pageins
7513 swap pager pages paged in
5266 swap pager pageouts
   10722 swap pager pages paged out
  518980 vnode pager pageins
 1659001 vnode pager pages paged in
 5717865 vnode pager pageouts
11193440 vnode pager pages paged out
5530 page daemon wakeups
140578661 pages examined by the page daemon
 1701262 pages reactivated
2968698933 copy-on-write faults
 3856240 copy-on-write optimized faults
4090371353 zero fill pages zeroed
3851399420 zero fill pages prezeroed
  457318 intransit blocking page faults
1628587285 total VM faults taken
   0 pages affected by kernel thread creation
3234876655 pages affected by  fork()
88075637 pages affected by vfork()
   0 pages affected by rfork()
1591911567 pages freed
   2 pages freed by daemon
4139768534 pages freed by exiting processes
  331854 pages active
  367993 pages inactive
   41103 pages in VM cache
  118472 pages wired down
   93794 pages free
4096 bytes per page
125580578352 total name lookups
 cache hits (98% pos + 0% neg) system 0% per-directory
 deletions 0%, falsehits 0%, toolong 0%



It's as I expected -- you don't understand the difference between
SIZE (SZ) and RES (RSS).  The simple version:

SIZE == amount of memory that's shared across all processes on the
machine, e.g. shared libraries.  It doesn't mean 156MB is being taken
up per process.


SIZE == the amount of VM address space allocated by the process.

It includes things shared (copy-on-write) between many processes like 
the shared libraries; it also includes memory-mapped files (including 
.so's like apache modules being loaded into the process), VM allocated 
but not yet used by malloc()/brk(), the stack, and so forth.


RES == amount of memory that's specifically allocated to that 
individual

process.  The three httpd processes above are taking up a total of
~38MBytes of memory (13108K + 12684K + 12280K).


RES == the amount of process VM that is resident in actual physical 
RAM; the rest of the process is paged out to the swapfile or 
filesystem for memory-mapped files.



As I said, even with RES the numbers dont seems to have any sense.

Let's say 12500K x 450 = ~5500MBytes. Considering there's a lot of 
process other than Apache running on the server...there's something 
wrong. Is there something shared in RES too ?


Yep.  Quite probably a lot, but the amount of memory which is specific 
to just that process is not easily found from FreeBSD's top, regrettably.


For the sake of example, and because the same explanation applies 
pretty closly to FreeBSD, consider an httpd running on a MacOSX 
system.  Here's top output, which includes columns RPRVT for 
resident memory used by just this process, RSHRD which is 
resident, shared with other processes, RSIZE which is FreeBSD's 
RES, and VSIZE, which is FreeBSD's SIZE:


Processes:  136 total, 4 running, 132 sleeping... 215 threads
11:06:40
Load Avg:  1.71, 1.66, 1.62 CPU usage:  12.5% user, 59.7% sys, 
27.8% idle

SharedLibs: num =  141, resident = 18.3M code, 2.92M data, 6.40M LinkEdit
MemRegions: num = 10360, resident =  101M + 5.91M private,  159M shared
PhysMem:   159M wired,  252M active, 99.0M inactive,  510M used, 1.50G 
free

VM: 7.16G + 88.8M   1378510(0) pageins, 88743(0) pageouts

  PID COMMAND  %CPU   TIME   #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT  RSHRD  RSIZE  
VSIZE
 2868 httpd0.0% 43:21.28   11292  1.82M   144M  
72.9M   169M
 2869 httpd0.0% 46:29.45   11292  1.95M   144M  
73.2M   169M
 2870 httpd0.0% 46:55.84   11292  1.89M   144M  
73.0M   169M


...and the vmmap command, documented here:

  
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/vmmap.1.html 



...provides detailed info about a single process' VM usage:

# vmmap 

Re: NFS Help

2008-10-28 Thread Victor Farah

Sorry I forgot to mention, all machines are FREEBSD6.3

Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:

If your server is nfsv4 (freebsd 7.x)
the nfs protocol used is tcp.

The older machines (freebsd 5 or 6) 
the nfs prococol is udp...


try to use the -T switch (mount_nfs option...) on the older machines

so they will use tcp...

hope this will help


Sergio
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Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin

2008-10-28 Thread Mel
On Thursday 23 October 2008 10:36:15 Matthew Seaman wrote:
 The X dependencies come in via php5-gd and pecl-pdflib. php5-gd depends on
 gd, which depends on libXpm and t1lib which both depend on X libs. 
 pecl-pdflib itself depends on php5-gd.  Turning off those two options will
 keep you X free.

More to the point, set WITHOUT_X11=yes in /etc/make.conf or on the command 
line when building php5-gd and t1lib. On headless servers, putting it 
in /etc/make.conf will save a few headaches.
Sadly, php5-gd hides the WITHOUT_X11 from the OPTIONS dialog, but it's in 
the /usr/ports/lang/php5/Makefile.ext:

.if ${PHP_MODNAME} == gd
LIB_DEPENDS=freetype.9:${PORTSDIR}/print/freetype2 \
png.5:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/png \
jpeg.9:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/jpeg
.   if !defined(WITHOUT_X11)
USE_XORG=   xpm
.   endif

So, if you need more finegrained control, put this in /etc/make.conf:

.if !empty(${.CURDIR:M*/graphics/php5-gd/*}) ||
!empty(${.CURDIR:M*/devel/t1lib/*})
WITHOUT_X11=yes
.endif

 Valentin Bud wrote:
 |
 | I am not that good in FBSD so i'm asking
 |

The good (if not best) thing about the ports system is that Makefiles are 
readable, though the stuff in /usr/ports/Mk can be overwhelming, you can 
figure out what does what from a port's Makefile pretty well, even when you 
don't know much about make(1). And of course there's ports(7) and the 
elaborate comments at the start of /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. 
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Re: flash9 checklist (was: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD)

2008-10-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
macromedia still doesn't support FreeBSD, while it's mostly matter of 
recompiling.


if so - simply don't use it
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Re: A gmirror question.

2008-10-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

If I have understood things correctly, gmirror stores all relevant
information about the mirror in the last sector on the provider.


exactly. it doesn't matter how the disks are connected.

all data is in last sector.

for non-mirrored drives it's useful to use glabel to get the same
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Re: VLAN filtering on FreeBSD 7.0 / 6.3

2008-10-28 Thread Yony Yossef
 This change requires kernel changes that may not be compatible with 6.X, I
 am not sure,
 I am not the owner of that code.  Some reason you can't use 7.1 which will
 have everything
 you need?


I'm bound to 6.3 and 7.0 at the moment. Does the vlan ioctls exist only from
7.1 and fourth?
If so, are there any kernel patches to make 6.3 / 7.0 support it as well?



 TSO is a hardware feature, I have never tested this, but my suspicion is
 that if
 its enabled on the hardware that it will transparently happen in the
 outbound
 TX stream, but I am not sure.


My hardware works fine, I have TSO working on the regular interface. but
it seems like vlan interfaces does not inherit the parent device
capabilities.



 Jack



 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Yony Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Hi,

 I have two questions about VLANs on FreeBSD 6.3/7.0.

 1.
 I'm trying to understand whether HW VLAN filtering can be supported.
 Looking at the code I can't find a proper ioctl that will inform the
 driver about a vlan creation/destruction.
 Is there a way of doing it?

 2.
 Second issue - is there way of enabling TSO on vlan interfaces?

 Thanks
 Yony



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Re: A gmirror question.

2008-10-28 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 17:53:20 Stefan Moro wrote:

 But if this is the case, how does gmirror know that it should use (in
 my example above) ad10 and not ad4 as the additional disk in the
 mirror.
 Or does gmirror use something else than the /dev entries to address disks??

 I'm just curious how gmirror does this.

It doesn't care about the device name. Geom modules that are loaded into the 
kernel, register a 'taste' function, with the geom(4) subsystem, that tastes 
if a provider is something they want to work with. Effectively, this taste 
function reads the last sector and checks if it has gmirror metadata.
The geom system is the 'magician', which basically hands all providers to the 
loaded modules.

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and never get to the software part.
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Re: Security | Kernel message

2008-10-28 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 17:32:36 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:26:03PM +0100, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
  A prt of my daily security run:
 
  triton.xxx.xxx.xxx kernel log messages:
  +++ /tmp/security.VnqB8ZT6  2008-10-27 23:53:32.0 +0100
  +em0: link state changed to DOWN
  +em0: link state changed to UP
  +em0: link state changed to DOWN
  +em0: link state changed to UP
  +em0: link state changed to DOWN
  +em0: link state changed to UP
 
  Is there a way of adding the time on every DOWN and UP line?

 No, because the messages are in the kernel log.  The kernel itself does
 not print timestamps, because that's silly.

 Try doing this:

 1) Edit /etc/syslog.conf and enable /var/log/all.log,

Actually, these end up in /var/log/messages in a vanilla system (*.notice). 
You can modify /etc/periodic/security/700.kernelmsg, by using:
fgrep 'kernel: ' /var/log/messages 2/dev/null |

where it says:
dmesg 2/dev/null

Or more prescise: fgrep 'your.host.name kernel: ' /var/log/messages

This will give you timestamps with the output. I can't really think of 
anything that does end up in dmesg and not in /var/log/messages, but I'm sure 
there are some.
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libexpat is missing

2008-10-28 Thread freebsd777

Hi there,

Under FreeBsd 6.2 version,
while I was trying to install Krang software this is an error message below.

I set up compat5 and expat2 in /usr/ports to get libexpat. But it is still
not working.

Does anyone know how to get libexpat? 

-- Error -
SeaAd# bin/krang_build

ATTEMPTING: Mandrake9_2
ATTEMPTING: Fedora9
ATTEMPTING: Debian
ATTEMPTING: MacOSX
ATTEMPTING: FreeBSD
Building for platform 'FreeBSD'.

libexpat is missing from your system, Krang could not find it or we couldn't
include it.
This library is required by Krang.





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Re: VLAN filtering on FreeBSD 7.0 / 6.3

2008-10-28 Thread Ivan Voras
Yony Yossef wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have two questions about VLANs on FreeBSD 6.3/7.0.
 
 1.
 I'm trying to understand whether HW VLAN filtering can be supported.
 Looking at the code I can't find a proper ioctl that will inform the driver
 about a vlan creation/destruction.
 Is there a way of doing it?

If you're asking how to support vlans in FreeBSD, add lines like these
to rc.conf:

cloned_interfaces=vlan0
ifconfig_bce1=inet 0.0.0.0
ifconfig_vlan0=vlan 250 vlandev bce1
ifconfig_vlan0_alias0=inet 161.53.72.23 netmask 255.255.255.0

This has worked for me in 6.2 and 6.3. Hardware VLAN filtering is
supported in both 6.x and 7.x (at least in bce driver; look for
VLAN_HWTAGGING flag in ifconfig).

 2.
 Second issue - is there way of enabling TSO on vlan interfaces?

I've asked that question about a week ago on network developers mailing
list and the answer was that it could be done but it's not yet
implemented (i.e. using VLANs in any way effectively disables TSO).



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Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-28 Thread Canhua
Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD.
I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that:
Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/
FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz:
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports.
Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install
using ports means.

Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be
install from ports while not able to be added from package system?
Am I right?
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Re: gmirror slice insertion, FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY, DSC, ERROR

2008-10-28 Thread Carl

Jeremy Chadwick said:
ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR  
error=40UNCORRECTABLE LBA=134802751


Are you sure you don't have a bad hard disk?  This looks to be like a
classic block/sector failure.


I hadn't realized that a bad block would manifest itself with a message 
about DMA. Seems like such semantics would be a little obscure to most 
users, apparently including me.



So you're saying that the *exact* same READ_DMA error, at the *exact*
same LBA, is reported on ad4?  If so, that's very bizarre.


No, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Both instances were on ad6, so far.


Can you please provide the output from the following commands?


See end of message. Let me know if you then want more (in- or out-of-band).

Having now installed smartmontools, you can see below that I ran it for 
both ad4 and ad6. Sure enough, ad6 has logged 2 READ DMA errors - does 
that make this a definitive bad disk then?


Should I not be worried about ad4 too? Those Raw_Read_Error_Rate and 
Seek_Error_Rate numbers should be zero or very close to it, shouldn't 
they? I don't know how to interpret what I'm seeing in that output, so 
I'd appreciate any insight. Should I be returning both disks for 
warranty claims (they're both very recently purchased)?


Wojciech Puchar said:
boot from some kind of live CD, then make another mirror (single disk now) 
on other drive, then do


dd if=/dev/ad6s1 of=/dev/mirror/newmirror bs=2k conv=noerror,sync

i intentionally did bs=2k instead of larger, to minimize amount of lost 
data.


then change your system to boot from newmirror, take out /dev/ad6 and have 
it replaced on warranty (or buy new), put new ad6, insert it to the 
mirror.


I think you're describing a method to help me save as much data from ad6 
as possible. Fortunately, this is all about constructing a new system, 
so there's no data yet to lose.


Is there anything I should know about this model of hard disk with 
regards to being known for problems? Also, is there a good test I can 
perform to hopefully flush out any problems before I put this thing into 
service?


Carl / K0802647

 Additional Information 

# vmstat -i
interrupt  total   rate
irq1: atkbd0   4  0
irq4: sio0125724 16
irq19: uhci3   5  0
irq21: uhci1+ 478364 63
irq23: uhci2 ehci1 1  0
cpu0: timer 14517071   1923
irq256: em0   109568 14
cpu1: timer 14514956   1922
Total   29745693   3940

# atacontrol list | grep -v no device present
ATA channel 0:
ATA channel 1:
ATA channel 2:
Master:  ad4 ST31000340AS/SD15 Serial ATA II
ATA channel 3:
Master:  ad6 ST31000340AS/SD15 Serial ATA II
ATA channel 4:
Master: acd0 HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH20NS10/EL00 Serial ATA v1.0
ATA channel 5:
ATA channel 6:
ATA channel 7:

# atacontrol cap ad4

Protocol  Serial ATA II
device model  ST31000340AS
serial number xxxH
firmware revision SD15
cylinders 16383
heads 16
sectors/track 63
lba supported 268435455 sectors
lba48 supported   1953525168 sectors
dma supported
overlap not supported

Feature  Support  EnableValue   Vendor
write cacheyes  yes
read ahead yes  yes
Native Command Queuing (NCQ)   yes   -  31/0x1F
Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ)   no   no  31/0x1F
SMART  yes  yes
microcode download yes  yes
security   yes  no
power management   yes  yes
advanced power management  no   no  65278/0xFEFE
automatic acoustic management  no   no  0/0x00  254/0xFE

# atacontrol cap ad6

Protocol  Serial ATA II
device model  ST31000340AS
serial number xxxA
firmware revision SD15
cylinders 16383
heads 16
sectors/track 63
lba supported 268435455 sectors
lba48 supported   1953525168 sectors
dma supported
overlap not supported

Feature  Support  EnableValue   Vendor
write cacheyes  yes
read ahead yes  yes
Native Command Queuing (NCQ)   yes   -  31/0x1F
Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ)   no   no  31/0x1F
SMART  yes  yes
microcode download yes  yes
security   yes  no
power management   yes  yes
advanced power management  no   no  65278/0xFEFE
automatic acoustic management  no   no  0/0x00  254/0xFE

# smartctl -a /dev/ad4
smartctl version 5.38 [i386-portbld-freebsd7.0] Copyright (C) 2002-8 

RE: vlc not decoding certain DVDs

2008-10-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:39 PM
 To: Joachim Rosenfeld
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: vlc not decoding certain DVDs
 
 
 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Joachim Rosenfeld
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
  Why is vlc (the CSS library specifically) unable to decode certain
  CDs? Certain foreign film CDs work fine, but others, mostly US-based
  Hollywood films don't. I was under the impression that vlc was able to
  decode everything? I can hear audio on these DVDs, but the video is
  weird blocks of color.
 
  The weird thing is that if I run vlc under WINE, everything works
  fine. The movie plays, but fullscreen doesn't work and the interface
  is really horrible on vlc/wine.
 
  Any solutions on how to fix this?
 
  I am running 7.0-RELEASE on an x86 box.
 
  All ports are up to date as of 3 days ago.
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 umm VLC hasn't been able to decode everything for quite a long 
 time install
 libdvdcss

I have found personally that the movie studios have been going
all out recently in various copy protection standards that break
the DVD standard but are still playable on most of the hardware
DVD players out there.  As a result I've had to resort in some cases
to running varous Windows versions of DVD rippers to get the
movies into video files and off the DVD.  Your going to have to
experiment since this is also dependent on the DVD drive itself.

Once you get the DVD ripped to a video file it's generally no problem
to play it.

Ted 
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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14:34AM +0800, Canhua wrote:
 Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD.
 I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that:
 Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/
 FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz:
 File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 
 although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports.
 Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install
 using ports means.
 
 Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be
 install from ports while not able to be added from package system?
 Am I right?

Correct -- not every port has a package.

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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-28 Thread Steven Susbauer

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14:34AM +0800, Canhua wrote:

Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD.
I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that:
Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/
FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz:
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports.
Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install
using ports means.

Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be
install from ports while not able to be added from package system?
Am I right?


Correct -- not every port has a package.


ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and
ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does.
By running portinstall -P pkgname, it will install a port and
dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from
source.

portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help
with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes.

-Steve


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