Screen problem on booting

2009-02-02 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
Hi all,

I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p2

Since a few days I've noticed something weird. On booting, all the
text I see is shifted to the left, so I lose the first ten letters or
so in every line of text.

After login, once I type startx the X Window system seems to be OK
_and_ if I go back to a console with Alt-Ctrl-Fn the console is fine
again.

My graphic card is an ATI Radeon HD2400.

Anybody noticed it?

Thanks in advance.

PS: In console mode, reset command doesn't fix the problem.
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Re: xorg 7.4 keyboard localisation (xorg.conf vs hal)

2009-02-02 Thread Sebastien Chassot

On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 14:10 -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote:
 This seems to have a way to enable HAL to detect a keyboard and export 
 it to X, but what about mice?  My Xorg log tells me that it is ignoring 
 my USB mouse in addition to ignoring my keyboard, so what sort of HAL 
 file do I add to enable it to find my mouse?

You can choose between using HAL config or xorg.conf by doing
what /usr/port/UPDATING suggest:

===
  20090123:
  AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server
  AUTHOR: rnol...@freebsd.org

  If you are using an older xorg.conf several config lines are
  no longer needed and will generate warnings when X is started.
  RgbPath will cause X to fail to start, remove it from your config.

  Server 1.5.3 also really wants to configure its input devices
  via hald.  This is causing some issues with moused and
  /dev/sysmouse.  There are a couple of options for how to deal
  with it.

  1. Add Option AllowEmptyInput off to your ServerLayout section.
 This will cause X to use the configured kbd, mouse, and vmmouse
 sections from your xorg.conf

  2. Don't use moused.  If you want it to work with addon usb mice
 set this in rc.conf:

 moused_enable=NO
 moused_nondefault_enable=NO

  I'm working on fixing hald or the mouse driver or both.
===


But it don't help on HAL support...

 Where in HAL documentation is this information found?  R. Noland seemed 
 to think it was a trivial process to make HAL do keyboards and mice?  In 
 fact it is not trivial but a pain in the ass!  If you intend to inflict 
 broken software on unsuspecting users you had better think through all 
 of the problems and come up with explicit solutions to all of those 
 problems so that everyone has a chance to make their systems work.

You're right. The handbook don't talk about HAL at all and it's quiet
difficult to find doc on web. HAL seems to have huge capability...too
much to begin with...  ;)

 


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no cats at home, but system (7.0-STABLE) reboots

2009-02-02 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

I'm alone in my flat and have no cats :-)
Last night I powered down my laptop (with the power-off button), the
system went down, but later re-booted by its own:

Feb  1 23:04:08 rebelion ipmon[839]: 23:04:08.145552 6x iwi0 @0:26 b 
127.0.0.1,0 - 0.0.0.0,0 PR tcp len 20 40 -AR OUT
Feb  1 23:06:24 rebelion acpi: resumed at 20090201 23:06:24
Feb  1 23:06:31 rebelion ipmon[839]: 23:06:31.680826 iwi0 @0:26 b 
192.168.2.3,138 - 192.168.2.255,138 PR udp len 20 241 OUT broadcast
Feb  1 23:06:33 rebelion root: /etc/rc.shutdown: WARNING: $gnugk_enable is not 
set properly - see rc.conf(5).
Feb  1 23:06:33 rebelion syslogd: exiting on signal 15
Feb  1 23:42:42 rebelion syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Feb  1 23:42:42 rebelion kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Feb  1 23:42:42 rebelion kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 
1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994

Then the kernel was up for two hours until the laptop has run out of
battery:

Feb  1 23:42:42 rebelion kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
Feb  1 23:42:42 rebelion kernel: IP Filter: v4.1.28 initialized.  Default = 
pass all, Logging = enabled
Feb  1 23:42:42 rebelion savecore: no dumps found
Feb  1 23:42:42 rebelion root: /etc/rc: WARNING: $gnugk_enable is not set 
properly - see rc.conf(5).
Feb  2 01:42:52 rebelion kernel: battery0: critically low charge!


Any ideas what could have caused that reboot after 36 minutes? The box
has no Ethernet attached (only wireless).

Thx

matthias

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apt of freebsd

2009-02-02 Thread Alexander Wolf

I'm find into /usr/ports/sysutils/apt porting from Debian APT.

How to using this on FreeBSD?

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:24:35 -0800 (PST)
gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine 
 and would like to install freebsd on it.

You can use 7.1-RELEASE-i386 (32bit) or 7.1-RELEASE-amd64 (64bit)
depending on whether or not you are going to run 64 bit software or
want to use more than 4GB of RAM.

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:57:12 -0500
Aryeh M. Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is a little more complicated... i386 also supports 4GB with the PAE

I know.
 
 kernel option... it is frequently better to use this then to use amd64 
 because (a decreasing I hope) number of ports do not compile and/or work 
 properly on amd64... for example if your using the machine as a GUI 
 desktop *AND* you have a nvidia video card you get almost 10 times 
 better performence with i386 because amd64 has a hard time reconizing 
 PCI cards installed above the 4gb limit (the phsycial addr is above RAM)

AFAIK, the NVidia driver does not work (properly/at all) with PAE, 64
bit FreeBSD or more than 4GB of RAM.

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
 It is a little more complicated... i386 also supports 4GB with the PAE
 kernel option... it is frequently better to use this then to use amd64
 because (a decreasing I hope) number of ports do not compile and/or work
 properly on amd64... for example if your using the machine as a GUI desktop
 *AND* you have a nvidia video card you get almost 10 times better
 performence with i386 because amd64 has a hard time reconizing PCI cards
 installed above the 4gb limit (the phsycial addr is above RAM)


I could be wrong, but I thought that the nvidia binary driver did not
work on a i386 PAE kernel.

Sam Fourman Jr.
Fourman Networks
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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman

Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:

It is a little more complicated... i386 also supports 4GB with the PAE
kernel option... it is frequently better to use this then to use amd64
because (a decreasing I hope) number of ports do not compile and/or work
properly on amd64... for example if your using the machine as a GUI desktop
*AND* you have a nvidia video card you get almost 10 times better
performence with i386 because amd64 has a hard time reconizing PCI cards
installed above the 4gb limit (the phsycial addr is above RAM)




I could be wrong, but I thought that the nvidia binary driver did not
work on a i386 PAE kernel.

Sam Fourman Jr.
Fourman Networks

  
If I implied it I did not mean it I am sorry... (bad example) there are 
other ports that do work with PAE and not with AMD64 (forget what they 
are right now since I switched from amd64 to i386 almost 6 months 
ago)... also I do not know of any ports that do work with amd64 that do 
not work with PAE... I have not checked this but I think the primary 
difference is how large gcc reports void * (and other ptr's) to be as 
well the size of int's

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine and 
would like to install freebsd on it.


it's FreeBSD/amd64, as 64-bit intel is compatible with amd64
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Re: X.org-update - screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf?

2009-02-02 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:30:02AM -0800, Luke Dean wrote:

 Me too.
 I started a thread a few days ago titled Restarting new Xorg freezes
 system.
 My symptoms are the same as yours.
 I'm not running hald at all.
 I'm not using full-blown gnome, just windowmaker.
 I'm using the radeon driver on an ATI HD 4350

 I just tried switching to the vesa driver, and now I can stop and start
 X as much as I want with no problems whatsoever.
 I know that this was not a problem with the radeon driver prior to the
 Xorg update.

Hi,

Did a few tests more:

1) Section ServerLayout
Option AllowEmptyInput false
Section Device
   Driver  radeon
moused running
hald running

Result: X (gnome in my case) starts, mouse moves. Upon leaving X the
console is to something different than 80x25 lines - at least I can't
see about 2-3 lines on the bottom of the screen. However - as soon as
a start X again I get graphical junk on the display, mouse  keyboard
frozen, no switching of consoles nor can I log in via the net (ssh)


2) Same as 1) above however this time with
Driver radeonhd

Result: Almost the same as 1) above - only difference: When I leave X
the console comes back again to 80x25 lines. Hoever - like in 1) above
- the second attempt to start X ends in a machine completely frozen :-(

3) Same as 1) - this time with
Driver vesa

Result: Everything works - i.e. back and forth between X and
console. Sure enough working with Vesa is a workaround only given the
huge difference in speed between the Vesa- and radeon drivers.


4) Option AutoAddDevices Off under 'Section ServerLayout'
with 
Driver  radeonhd

Result: X works only once (as in Tests 12 above). Second attempt to
start X gives a frozen box again.



As you already mentioned

o) no problem with VESA-Driver

o) no problems with radeon-driver prior to the Upgrade to X 7.4


Hope this helps someone out there to track things down.

-ewald
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X, dbus and hal - how to?

2009-02-02 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I'm running X remotely, i.e. xorg-server and clients are on different boxes.

After reading freebsd.org/gnome FAQs and hal FAQs my impression is that
dbus and hal must be run on the clients box, not on the server.

Can somebody confirm this?

many thanks
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Re: ls -lh show file not displaying correct size

2009-02-02 Thread Wayne
Thanks for the answer so now for the next question. How do I sync this
file to other FreeBSD servers. I tried using rsync with the --spares
but the size on the other server was on it's way to being the 256G size
and fill up the other server. How would I go about making an exact
duplicate. 

Wayne

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Subject: Re: ls -lh show file not displaying correct size
To: Wayne testcat2...@yahoo.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 3:33 PM

In the last episode (Jan 31), Wayne said:
 Hello,
 
 I have a db file of FreeBSD 7.1 amd64 that is displaying the wrong size.
This is a db file used by my mail filter software to to Bayes Filtering.
 If I do an ls -l or ls -lh I get
 filter1# ls -l
 total 489024
 -rw---  1 defang  defang  274992627712 Jan 31 08:33 @@RPTN.db
 filter1# ls -lh
 total 489024
 -rw---  1 defang  defang   256G Jan 31 08:33 @@RPTN.db
 If I do a du I gecus18-179# du
 489026  .
 cus18-179# du -h
 478M    .
 My drive is only 250 Gig and I have it mounted as /var/spool here is my df
for the whole file system.
 /dev/ad14s1d    226G    810M    207G 0%    /var/spool
 
 So I know that the 256G is wrong. Can any one tell me what is up with file
size ?

The 256G is correct.  It's a sparse file (i.e. there are holes in it). 
ls -sk will print the actual disk space occupied by a file.

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short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread William Bulley
Recently purchased a brand new 2.0 GB secure digital (SD) card.

When I plugged this into a USB dongle and plugged the USB dongle
into an available USB socket on my FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE system the
output from dmesg(8) reported this:

   da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)

This is much closer to 1.0 GB than 2.0 GB so I at once wondered
if I had been scammed in my purchase of this brand new SD card.

Once I'd mounted /dev/da1s1 on /mnt, the df(1) command also reported
960 MB.  I then copied a 300+ megabyte file onto /mnt and then ran
the df(1) command again.  This time it reported 1.9 GB total and
1.6 GB available.  WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?  Am I going crazy?

Is this normal behaviour for a FAT16 formatted (raw/blank) SD card?

Is there something I can do using the fdisk(8) or similar command
to change the SD card so that it believes (and FreeBSD believes) that
it is truly a 2.0 GB card?

As I continued writing (large, multi-hundred megabyte) files to the
mounted SD card, the system eventually seized up and I had to reboot.
I expect this had something to do with my having crossed the 960 MB
boundary on this SD card.  Help!  Any ideas gratefully accepted.

Regards,

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Re: X, dbus and hal - how to?

2009-02-02 Thread Daniel Lannstrom
 After reading freebsd.org/gnome FAQs and hal FAQs my impression is that
 dbus and hal must be run on the clients box, not on the server.
 
 Can somebody confirm this?

AFAIK that is correct.
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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread Mel
On Monday 02 February 2009 07:52:44 William Bulley wrote:
 Recently purchased a brand new 2.0 GB secure digital (SD) card.

 When I plugged this into a USB dongle and plugged the USB dongle
 into an available USB socket on my FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE system the
 output from dmesg(8) reported this:

da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)

 This is much closer to 1.0 GB than 2.0 GB so I at once wondered
 if I had been scammed in my purchase of this brand new SD card.

 Once I'd mounted /dev/da1s1 on /mnt, the df(1) command also reported
 960 MB.  I then copied a 300+ megabyte file onto /mnt and then ran
 the df(1) command again.  This time it reported 1.9 GB total and
 1.6 GB available.  WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?  Am I going crazy?

On a hunch, it's really 1G FAT, 1G HFS (mac). You could reformat it using 
fdisk/newfs.
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Re: no cats at home, but system (7.0-STABLE) reboots

2009-02-02 Thread Mel
On Sunday 01 February 2009 23:57:40 Matthias Apitz wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm alone in my flat and have no cats :-)
 Last night I powered down my laptop (with the power-off button), the
 system went down, but later re-booted by its own:

 Feb  1 23:04:08 rebelion ipmon[839]: 23:04:08.145552 6x iwi0 @0:26 b
 127.0.0.1,0 - 0.0.0.0,0 PR tcp len 20 40 -AR OUT Feb  1 23:06:24 rebelion
 acpi: resumed at 20090201 23:06:24
^^^

It did not power down, it suspended. Check hw.acpi.power_button_state or maybe 
you pressed too short or too long.

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Re: Error compiling Imagmagick

2009-02-02 Thread Mel
On Sunday 01 February 2009 21:55:53 Warren Liddell wrote:
 Im running AMD64 4gig RAM FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE, ports an src are all up to
 date... Below is the error output trying to compile imagmagick as part
 of the dependency whilst installing DVDrip

run make config in graphics/ImageMagick and uncheck the Run bundled 
self-tests after build option.
This will continue the install. You may want to provide the output of the 
failing test through send-pr, so that it can be investigated.

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Re: X.org-update - screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf?

2009-02-02 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Ewald Jenisch a...@jenisch.at wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:30:02AM -0800, Luke Dean wrote:

 Me too.
 I started a thread a few days ago titled Restarting new Xorg freezes
 system.
 My symptoms are the same as yours.
 I'm not running hald at all.
 I'm not using full-blown gnome, just windowmaker.
 I'm using the radeon driver on an ATI HD 4350

 I just tried switching to the vesa driver, and now I can stop and start
 X as much as I want with no problems whatsoever.
 I know that this was not a problem with the radeon driver prior to the
 Xorg update.

 Hi,

 Did a few tests more:

 1) Section ServerLayout
Option AllowEmptyInput false
 Section Device
   Driver  radeon
 moused running
 hald running

 Result: X (gnome in my case) starts, mouse moves. Upon leaving X the
 console is to something different than 80x25 lines - at least I can't
 see about 2-3 lines on the bottom of the screen. However - as soon as
 a start X again I get graphical junk on the display, mouse  keyboard
 frozen, no switching of consoles nor can I log in via the net (ssh)

Just for the record, this used to happen in Linux (Fedora 9) but it's
working since some time ago (sorry, I don't remember when this was
fixed)
radeon now works and doesn't freeze if you try to bring the X Server up again.

I'm using Xorg 7.4 too

However, I experience the same problems in my system (ATI RadeonHD
2400 with FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p2)




 2) Same as 1) above however this time with
 Driver radeonhd

 Result: Almost the same as 1) above - only difference: When I leave X
 the console comes back again to 80x25 lines. Hoever - like in 1) above
 - the second attempt to start X ends in a machine completely frozen :-(

 3) Same as 1) - this time with
 Driver vesa

 Result: Everything works - i.e. back and forth between X and
 console. Sure enough working with Vesa is a workaround only given the
 huge difference in speed between the Vesa- and radeon drivers.


 4) Option AutoAddDevices Off under 'Section ServerLayout'
 with
 Driver  radeonhd

 Result: X works only once (as in Tests 12 above). Second attempt to
 start X gives a frozen box again.



 As you already mentioned

 o) no problem with VESA-Driver

 o) no problems with radeon-driver prior to the Upgrade to X 7.4


 Hope this helps someone out there to track things down.

 -ewald
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Re: Load balancing multiple virtual hosts on 1 IP

2009-02-02 Thread Mel
On Sunday 01 February 2009 19:33:38 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 Thank you for all the responses ... turns out the solution was simplier ...
 I tried the various solutions presented, and each of them did the same
 thing ...

 The setup I have, I'm using csync2 to maintain the file systems on each
 backend, and in order to simplify that, I'm using:

 VirtualHost *:80

 instead of

 VirtualHost IP:80

 which works fine ... *but*, something gets confused when you mix-n-match
 the above ... its either all of one or the other, but not both ... once I
 fixed my config files, the pages now load consistently ...

I'm assuming you also have:
NameVirtualHost *

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#virtualhost

Addr can be:
- The character *, which is used only in combination with
  NameVirtualHost * to match all IP addresses;

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Re: no cats at home, but system (7.0-STABLE) reboots

2009-02-02 Thread Mel
On Monday 02 February 2009 09:04:59 Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Monday, February 02, 2009 a las 08:56:39AM -0900, Mel escribió:
  On Sunday 01 February 2009 23:57:40 Matthias Apitz wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I'm alone in my flat and have no cats :-)
   Last night I powered down my laptop (with the power-off button), the
   system went down, but later re-booted by its own:
  
   Feb  1 23:04:08 rebelion ipmon[839]: 23:04:08.145552 6x iwi0 @0:26 b
   127.0.0.1,0 - 0.0.0.0,0 PR tcp len 20 40 -AR OUT Feb  1 23:06:24
   rebelion acpi: resumed at 20090201 23:06:24
 
  ^^^
 
  It did not power down, it suspended. Check hw.acpi.power_button_state or
  maybe you pressed too short or too long.

 $ sysctl hw.acpi.power_button_state
 hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5

 but the other messages (you have cut out) says that it run through shutdown
 at 23:06:33 and later at 23:42:42 it did a normal re-boot while I was
 sleeping already; this does not make sense; don't you agree?


Right, I'm not awake yet. 36 minutes is odd. The only scenario I can think of:
- acpi shutdown did not work, it was instead a 'halt' and in your sleep you 
pressed the any key to start the reboot ;)

You can see if shutdown works properly by shutdown -p NOW. Then try the same 
using the power button, just in case there's something different. If that all 
works, search for monkeys.
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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 12:56:19PM -0500, William Bulley wrote:

 According to Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net on Mon, 02/02/09 at 
 12:46:
 
  On Monday 02 February 2009 07:52:44 William Bulley wrote:
   Recently purchased a brand new 2.0 GB secure digital (SD) card.
  
   When I plugged this into a USB dongle and plugged the USB dongle
   into an available USB socket on my FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE system the
   output from dmesg(8) reported this:
  
  da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)
  
   This is much closer to 1.0 GB than 2.0 GB so I at once wondered
   if I had been scammed in my purchase of this brand new SD card.
  
   Once I'd mounted /dev/da1s1 on /mnt, the df(1) command also reported
   960 MB.  I then copied a 300+ megabyte file onto /mnt and then ran
   the df(1) command again.  This time it reported 1.9 GB total and
   1.6 GB available.  WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?  Am I going crazy?
  
  On a hunch, it's really 1G FAT, 1G HFS (mac). You could reformat it using 
  fdisk/newfs.
 
 That might be a good hunch, but the SD card itself just says 2.0 GB on the
 outside - no mention there or when I purchased it to have any Mac-ness.
 
 I don't recall seeing anything Mac-ish when I ran the fdisk(8) command as
 
% fdisk da1
 
 The output then seemed to correctly reflect that partition (slice) one (1)
 was 960 MB in size.  I tried later (once the system had recovered and the
 fsck(8) had finished) to use fdisk(8) to put 1920 MB into slice one.  But
 that didn't seem to work.  I marked all the other three slices as UNUSED.
 Is there any trick to using fdisk(8) that is hidden in the man page which
 I evidently missed?  I used the -i flag and it led me by the had through
 each slice - I thought I did the right thing, but I was never able to
 mount(8) the SD card after that, even though dmesg(8) reported da1 as
 being there.  I kept getting invalid parameter or the like when I tried
 mounting as I am used to:
 
# mount_msdosfs -l /dev/da1s1 /mnt
 
 I also tried:
 
# mount_msdosfs -l /dev/da1 /mnt
 
 But both versions failed.  Finally, in desperation, I formatted the SD card
 on a Windows XP laptop.  Windows put it back into FAT shape (using the low
 level - not the quick - format there) and gave it 960 MB, sigh...   :-(

I am a little lost here and haven't tried a lot on USB devices yet - 
though I haven't had these kind of problems.

But, after doing the fdisk stuff and before trying to mount, did you
do a newfs?

Another thing would be to try the old   
  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1024
and see if it will write to it and wipe enough stuff to free it up.
Up the count if you think it makes any difference.

jerry

 
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Re: apt of freebsd

2009-02-02 Thread prad
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:23:50 +0100
Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org wrote:

 It's probably used for the Linux emulation in FreeBSD, you can't use
 it with FreeBSD native packages.

so what does this mean?
if you have linux emulation, you can install .debs from the debian
repository?

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Re: ls -lh show file not displaying correct size

2009-02-02 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 02), Wayne said:
 Thanks for the answer so now for the next question. How do I sync this
 file to other FreeBSD servers. I tried using rsync with the --spares
 but the size on the other server was on it's way to being the 256G size
 and fill up the other server. How would I go about making an exact
 duplicate. 

rsync --sparse seems to work fine for me:

(d...@dan.13) /usr/tmp truncate -s 512M bigfile1
(d...@dan.13) /usr/tmp ls -lsk bigfile*
1 -rw-r--r--  1 dan  wheel  5368709120 Feb  2 13:09 bigfile1
(d...@dan.13) /usr/tmp rsync --sparse -v bigfile1 dan:/usr/tmp/bigfile2
sent 536936517 bytes  received 31 bytes  2958328.09 bytes/sec
total size is 536870912  speedup is 1.00
rsync: U:98.46s S:16.08s E:181.03s CPU:63% Faults:0/1343 I/O:0/0 Swaps:0
(d...@dan.13) /usr/tmp ls -lsk bigfile*
1 -rw-r--r--  1 dan  wheel  536870912 Feb  2 13:11 bigfile1
1 -rw-r--r--  1 dan  wheel  536870912 Feb  2 13:14 bigfile2
 
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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread William Bulley
According to Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu on Mon, 02/02/09 at 14:12:
 
 I am a little lost here and haven't tried a lot on USB devices yet - 
 though I haven't had these kind of problems.
 
 But, after doing the fdisk stuff and before trying to mount, did you
 do a newfs?
 
 Another thing would be to try the old   
   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1024
 and see if it will write to it and wipe enough stuff to free it up.
 Up the count if you think it makes any difference.

Thanks.  According to the newfs(8) man page it is used only for BSD
style file systems (ufs and ufs2).  I am okay with the FAT16 formatted
SD card, I'm just upset that I paid for a 2.0 GB card and ended up with
what seems to be a 1.0 GB card.  I would be happy if I could make the
SD card look like this:

   slice 1  2.0 GB (well, 1920 MB if you insist)
   slice 2  UNUSED
   slice 3  UNUSED
   slice 4  UNUSED

And I thought I had done just that using fdisk(8).  But I must have gotten
some of the beg and end paramaters set up wrong.

If the card is indeed 2.0 GB in size, and following in the style of the
originally reported parameters of this card:

   da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)

that is, 64 heads, 32 sectors per track, and 960 cylinders,
(this evidently from what the BIOS reports and understands) I had
assumed that I could merely increase the cylinder count up to 1920
and leave the head and sector information as it was.  But as I said
earlier, this didn't seem to work.  I know I have to leave room at
the beginning for the MBR or the like, but the tools are either too
low level, or too high level, or my understanding of all this is not
up to speed.  Why can't an SD card advertised (and sold) as a 2.0 GB
card actually hold (approximately) 2.0 GB?  That is what bugs me...

I believe that FAT16 is capable of addressing a 2.0 GB disk drive, yes?

Regards,

web...

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lpt0 device busy

2009-02-02 Thread Beech Rintoul
Just recently I've started having a problem with my HP 5N it was printing 
fine. Now, whatever I do lpt0 shows device busy. I've googled reinstalled 
apsfilter and put the printer through all the self tests (passed) and verified 
there's nothing in the printer's memory. I've rebuilt userland and kernel. 
Even tried cups and anything sent to /dev/lpt0 returns that error.

dmesg:
ppc1: NetMos NM9805 1284 Printer port port 
0xe800-0xe807,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe007,0xd800-0xd807,0xd400-0xd407,0xd000-0xd00f
 
irq 21 at device 3.0 on pci3
 
ppc1: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode   
 
ppc1: [ITHREAD] 
 
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc1 
 
ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP/ECP_RLE   
 
ppbus0: Probing for PnP devices:
 
ppbus0: Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 5 PJL,MLC,PCL,PCLXL   
 
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0   
 
lpt0: [ITHREAD] 
 
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port 
 
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0 


uname:
FreeBSD pinnacle.akherb.com 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #70: Mon Feb  2 
03:17:26 AKST 2009 r...@pinnacle.akherb.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PINNACLE  
i386

fstat /dev/lpt0 and fstat /pt0.ctl show nothing.

Ant attempt at changing settings with lptcontrol also result in a device 
busy error. 

pinnacle# lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0.ctl
lptcontrol: open: Device busy

I'm totally at a loss to figure out what's changed does anyone have any 
suggestions? I really need to get this working.

Beech

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Re: no cats at home, but system (7.0-STABLE) reboots

2009-02-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, February 02, 2009 a las 08:56:39AM -0900, Mel escribió:

 On Sunday 01 February 2009 23:57:40 Matthias Apitz wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I'm alone in my flat and have no cats :-)
  Last night I powered down my laptop (with the power-off button), the
  system went down, but later re-booted by its own:
 
  Feb  1 23:04:08 rebelion ipmon[839]: 23:04:08.145552 6x iwi0 @0:26 b
  127.0.0.1,0 - 0.0.0.0,0 PR tcp len 20 40 -AR OUT Feb  1 23:06:24 rebelion
  acpi: resumed at 20090201 23:06:24
 ^^^
 
 It did not power down, it suspended. Check hw.acpi.power_button_state or 
 maybe 
 you pressed too short or too long.

$ sysctl hw.acpi.power_button_state
hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5

but the other messages (you have cut out) says that it run through shutdown
at 23:06:33 and later at 23:42:42 it did a normal re-boot while I was
sleeping already; this does not make sense; don't you agree?

matthias

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Re: [6.3] ALT-CTRL-DEL = clean unmount?

2009-02-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I was wondering: When hitting the ALT-CTRL-DEL combination as an easy
way to call reboot, does this unmount disks properly?


it actually calls shutdown -r now



I'm concerned because I did this recently, and here's what dmesg says:

ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, controller found non-ATA66 cable
ad0: 19092MB Seagate ST320413A 3.39 at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: CDROM ASUS CD-S400/A/V2.3H at ata1-master UDMA33
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted


there is another reason for this.
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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar


  da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)


it's something wrong with FreeBSD here, it gets detected as 1GB.
it has nothing to do with filesystem on it.
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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread Brad Mettee
Grrr - I really don't like that this mailing list default Reply-To is the 
original author instead of the mailing list itself


Snip from mis-directed e-mail

Does an XP machine also detect it as 960MB? If not, can you put more than 
960M on it and verify that it's all intact?


Create a 100MB zip file, put 10+ copies on the card. Then test to see if 
the CRC is correct on all of the copies. If they're alls ok, then the card 
is in fact 2GB. If you start getting errors on any of the files (and can 
wipe/repeat the problem), then I'd say you've been ripped off and it's only 
a 1GB card.



At 03:45 PM 2/2/2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote:


  da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)


it's something wrong with FreeBSD here, it gets detected as 1GB.
it has nothing to do with filesystem on it.
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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread William Bulley
According to Mel fbsd.questi...@rachie.is-a-geek.net on Mon, 02/02/09 at 
12:46:

 On Monday 02 February 2009 07:52:44 William Bulley wrote:
  Recently purchased a brand new 2.0 GB secure digital (SD) card.
 
  When I plugged this into a USB dongle and plugged the USB dongle
  into an available USB socket on my FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE system the
  output from dmesg(8) reported this:
 
 da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)
 
  This is much closer to 1.0 GB than 2.0 GB so I at once wondered
  if I had been scammed in my purchase of this brand new SD card.
 
  Once I'd mounted /dev/da1s1 on /mnt, the df(1) command also reported
  960 MB.  I then copied a 300+ megabyte file onto /mnt and then ran
  the df(1) command again.  This time it reported 1.9 GB total and
  1.6 GB available.  WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?  Am I going crazy?
 
 On a hunch, it's really 1G FAT, 1G HFS (mac). You could reformat it using 
 fdisk/newfs.

That might be a good hunch, but the SD card itself just says 2.0 GB on the
outside - no mention there or when I purchased it to have any Mac-ness.

I don't recall seeing anything Mac-ish when I ran the fdisk(8) command as

   % fdisk da1

The output then seemed to correctly reflect that partition (slice) one (1)
was 960 MB in size.  I tried later (once the system had recovered and the
fsck(8) had finished) to use fdisk(8) to put 1920 MB into slice one.  But
that didn't seem to work.  I marked all the other three slices as UNUSED.
Is there any trick to using fdisk(8) that is hidden in the man page which
I evidently missed?  I used the -i flag and it led me by the had through
each slice - I thought I did the right thing, but I was never able to
mount(8) the SD card after that, even though dmesg(8) reported da1 as
being there.  I kept getting invalid parameter or the like when I tried
mounting as I am used to:

   # mount_msdosfs -l /dev/da1s1 /mnt

I also tried:

   # mount_msdosfs -l /dev/da1 /mnt

But both versions failed.  Finally, in desperation, I formatted the SD card
on a Windows XP laptop.  Windows put it back into FAT shape (using the low
level - not the quick - format there) and gave it 960 MB, sigh...   :-(

Regards,

web...

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Homeschool sebagai Gaya Hidup?

2009-02-02 Thread Malaysian Homeschool Family
Assalamualaikum,

Sertai kami dalam playgroup Komuniti Malaysia Homeschool Unite, khas buat 
keluarga homeschool dan terbuka kepada keluarga yang berminat untuk menambah 
ilmu serta kenalan. Anda juga boleh berikan 
cadangan anda.
- Jom klik di sini : http://www.forum.littlekittle.com


Segmen Iklan: Only RM 25 for 3 bulan! Segmen direktori niaga buat warga 
Malaysia! Terbuka kepada WAHM (Work-at-Home-Mum)
- Jom klik di sini : http://littlekittle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6

Malaysian Homeschool Family Blog.
- Jom klik di sini : http://littlekittle.com/blog/

Parents have always been their children's First Teachers.

When children reach the age of 7 in most country we are told we need to send 
them off to Public School for approximately 8 hours a day. Why?

Parents have taught their children from the day they were born. We teach them 
to walk, talk, tie their shoes, and so very much more.

There is no set age at which a child can begin learning reading, math, history, 
science, art.

Every child learns in their own way.


Some children may do just fine learning out of a text book, sitting at a desk 
for 8 hours. There are certainly many more options that help children learn 
that would not be considered a normal education.

Parents have been teaching their children at home since the beginning of time.


Home schooling our children at home is a personal decision for everyone. No one 
can make the choice for you.

What works for one family may not work for another. Children will not all want 
to study bugs at the same time.

They won't all want to know why condensation forms on the windows in the 
winter, at the same time that little kiddy down the street wants to know the 
same thing.

Parents understand their child better then anyone else does.

We understand what makes our child go; hmmm how would this work if I put it on 
like this instead of the way the directions say.

We have always been our children's teachers. Being as a parent and a teacher 
has always been the way the world works.


In todays world it is no different.

We choose now to keep our children learning, learning at home with us.

As our children's teachers we are always on the lookout for things that we can 
use to help in their learning.


That is where our forum Malaysia Homeschool Unite come in.

We offer links to free worksheets on other sites (and more in the near 
future!). As well as have some that were made for the MHU forums use.

We are there when you have questions, and when you want to hit your head on the 
wall.

We offer not just the links but an ear, and a shoulder when they are needed. 
*Insya-Allah, Amin~*


Yours sincerely,
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Patching / Updating / Upgrading

2009-02-02 Thread Akenner

Hello all,

I've been using this list to my advantage for a while to learn things I 
can't seem to grasp, and I've gotten great amounts of help.


I have a question in regards to the process of patching / Updating / 
Upgrading I'd like a hand with. I have two machines running FreeBSD 
7.1-RELEASE and I'd like to make sure I've got security fixes on my test 
machine. I'm saying test amchine because the box I'm typing this from is 
an active needed desktop system I'm using for a lot of things right now, 
and I figured my best bet would be to set up another machine with a 
similar installation set so I could test out new ideas on that instead 
of risking breaking something on this one.


Anyway, I've been reading up on the CVS idea and asking things about 
freebsd-update, and I guess my question is more along these lines:


If I wanted to just make sure I've got bug fixes and security patches, 
would CVS or FreeBSD-Update be best for this? Or are they both good for 
this? I know in the Unix world there are generally a lot of things that 
do one thing very well but can generally do other things too.


I'm reading on CVS right now and it seems I could use this to keep the 
machine updated, but I'm having some issues understanding the idea of 
how it works. Basically, if I'm running 7.1-RELEASE, isn't that already 
the updated version? Or, have I maybe misunderstood something, and the 
tree RELEASE for 7.1 has bug fixes and security patches added to it, and 
I could CVSup to the newest release of 7.1 ?


Also, FreeBSD-update came across my reading, and it seems to be similar 
to swaret in the Slackware world. I know it isn't the same thing as BSD 
seems much more source based than other OSs, but I would like to get at 
least one of the ways to keep updated picked out, and started using on 
the test machine to make sure I fully understand it before using it to 
update my main box.


One of the things I did was make two copies of the example CVS standard 
supfile; one I made in that directory as standard.bak and then I copied 
a copy of it to the /root directory to look at and maybe edit as well, 
but as I said, I could use a hand in deciding which option is going to 
work best.


So if anyone could lend a little but in typing out what they use for 
updates and how they go about it, I'd appreciate it. I've already gotten 
a full CVSup file sent to me by a member on here which was a great help 
in deciding how to set up the file. I'm more or less wondering with 
CVSup if I keep using RELEASE or do I use Stable.


And of course if anyone uses freebsd-update if they have suggestions I'd 
love to hear those as well :)


-Allen
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Re: [6.3] ALT-CTRL-DEL = clean unmount?

2009-02-02 Thread Ivan Voras
Gilles wrote:
 Hello
 
 I was wondering: When hitting the ALT-CTRL-DEL combination as an easy
 way to call reboot, does this unmount disks properly?

Yes.

 I'm concerned because I did this recently, and here's what dmesg says:
 
 ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, controller found non-ATA66 cable
 ad0: 19092MB Seagate ST320413A 3.39 at ata0-master UDMA33
 acd0: CDROM ASUS CD-S400/A/V2.3H at ata1-master UDMA33
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
 WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
 WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted
 WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
 WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted

The OS reboot process might have been interrupted somehow, or your drive
might be caching more than it should be.



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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread matt donovan
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:24 AM, gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all:

 What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine
 and would like to install freebsd on it.

 Thanks



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that would be amd64 since amd64 is what the x86_64 is called
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Second hand video equipment for sale.

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   Sony BVW75P, details on request @ from 2.000 Euros
   Sony BVWD75P, 310 drum hours @ 2.800 Euros

   Sony DSR1P, 59 original drum hours @ 1.900 Euros
   Sony DSR40P, 680 original drum hours @ 1.900 Euros
   Sony DSR45P, 800 original drum hours @ 2.500 Euros
   Sony DSR60P, 900 drum hours @ 600 Euros
   Sony DSR80P, with SDI, 2600 original drum hours @ 2.200 Euros
   Sony DSR85P, with SDI, new drum 0hrs @ 3.500 Euros
   Sony DSR1500AP, with fire wire and YUV, 680 original drum hours @
   3.500 Euros
   Sony DSR1500AP, with SDI fire wire, 400 original drum hours @ 4.000
   Euros
   Sony DSR2000P, 2600 original drum hours @ 5.500 Euros
   Sony DSR2000P, new drum hrs @ 7.000 Euros

   Sony DNWA30P, 2000 original drum hours @ 1.500 Euros
   Sony DNWA65P, 3000 drum hours @ 1.800 Euros
   Sony DNWA75P, 3500 original drum hours @ 4.500 Euros
   Sony DNWA220P, 2500 drum hours @ 4.000 Euros
   Sony DNWA225P, 2200 drum hours @ 7.000 Euros

   Sony J1, betacam SP and SX player, low hours @ 1.200 Euros
   Sony J3A, 1200 original drum hours @ 3.900 Euros
   Sony DVW522P, low original drum hours @ 2.500 Euros
   Sony DVW510P S/N 11198, 3278 drum hours @ 4.500 Euros
   Sony DVWA510P, 2500 drum hours @ 6.000 Euros
   Sony DVW500P S/N 16243, 3587 drum hours @ 15.000 Euros
   Sony DVWA500P S/N 10520, fully serviced, new drum 0hrs @ 19.000
   Euros
   Sony DVWM2000P, 300 original drum hours @ 23.000 Euros

   Sony JH3, 150 original drum hours, with fire wire @ 13.000 Euros
   Sony HDWM2000P S/N 49298, EX-DEMO,  390 original drum hours @ 33.000
   Euros
   Sony HDWM2000P, NEW IN THE BOX @ 36.000 Euros

   CAMERA's  CAMCORDER's :
   Sony HDC1500, complete camera chain, specs on request, 16 units
   available @ 50.000 Euros/ unit
   Thomson LDK8000, complete camera chain, specs on request, 6 units
   available @ make an offer

   Sony DXCD30P, camera head @ 1.600 Euros
   Sony DXCD35P, camera head @ 2.000 Euros

   Thomson TTV1657D (4/3-16:9) complete triax chain @ 16.000 Euros
   Thomson LDK23HS MKII complete chain @ 38.000 Euros

   Panasonic AJD800P, 1400 drum hours @ 1.600 Euros
   Panasonic AJD610WAE, 700 drum hours @ 3.600 Euros
   Panasonic AJ-SDC615E, 1300 original drum hours @ 4.500 Euros
   Panasonic AJD910WAE, low hours @ 5.000 Euros
   Panasonic AGHVX200, ex-demo, 0hrs @ 3.300 Euros
   Panasonic AJSDX900, with AJ-VF20WE, 2550 original drum hours @ 7.000
   Euros
   Panasonic AJHDX900, with AJ-HVF21, 1150 original drum hours @13.000
   Euros
   Panasonic HPX-2100E, ex-demo, 4 years warranty, with view finder and
   microphone @ 18.700 Euros
   Panasonic AJ-HDC27 (varicam), 800 original drum hours @ 15.000 Euros

   Sony BVWD600P S/N 40358, 233 drum hours @ 2.000 Euros

   Sony HVR-Z1E, around 700 original drum hours @ 2.000 Euros
   Sony HVR-Z5E, NEW @ 3.740 Euros
   Sony HVR-Z7E, NEW @ 4.680 Euros

   Sony PMW-EX3, NEW @ 6.870 Euros
   Sony PMW-700, NEW @ 21.840 Euros

   Sony DSRPD150P, battery charger @ 1.200 Euros
   Sony DSRPD170P, battery charger, wide angle converter @ 1.600 Euros
   Sony 

Re: Homeschool sebagai Gaya Hidup?

2009-02-02 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa

Peter Ulrich Kruppa schrieb:
Indeed FreeBSD as an Operating System, coming with a huge software
collection, offers about everything you will need for home 
learning and

teaching - and is completely free.

Since there is a long tradition of Open Source Communities 
supporting
educational purposes, I am convinced everybody on this list is 
willing
to assist you in technical questions about setting up learning 
platforms

like moodle or compiling an office suite like OpenOffice.


Good luck!

Uli.



Malaysian Homeschool Family schrieb:

Assalamualaikum,

Sertai kami dalam playgroup Komuniti Malaysia Homeschool
Unite, khas buat keluarga homeschool dan terbuka kepada
keluarga yang berminat untuk menambah ilmu serta kenalan. Anda
juga boleh berikan cadangan anda. - Jom klik di sini :
http://www.forum.littlekittle.com


Segmen Iklan: Only RM 25 for 3 bulan! Segmen direktori niaga
buat warga Malaysia! Terbuka kepada WAHM (Work-at-Home-Mum) -
Jom klik di sini :
http://littlekittle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6

Malaysian Homeschool Family Blog. - Jom klik di sini :
http://littlekittle.com/blog/

Parents have always been their children's First Teachers.

When children reach the age of 7 in most country we are told
we need to send them off to Public School for approximately 8
hours a day. Why?

Parents have taught their children from the day they were
born. We teach them to walk, talk, tie their shoes, and so
very much more.

There is no set age at which a child can begin learning
reading, math, history, science, art.

Every child learns in their own way.


Some children may do just fine learning out of a text book,
sitting at a desk for 8 hours. There are certainly many more
options that help children learn that would not be considered
a normal education.

Parents have been teaching their children at home since the
beginning of time.


Home schooling our children at home is a personal decision for
everyone. No one can make the choice for you.

What works for one family may not work for another. Children
will not all want to study bugs at the same time.

They won't all want to know why condensation forms on the
windows in the winter, at the same time that little kiddy down
the street wants to know the same thing.

Parents understand their child better then anyone else does.

We understand what makes our child go; hmmm how would this
work if I put it on like this instead of the way the
directions say.

We have always been our children's teachers. Being as a parent
and a teacher has always been the way the world works.


In todays world it is no different.

We choose now to keep our children learning, learning at home
with us.

As our children's teachers we are always on the lookout for
things that we can use to help in their learning.


That is where our forum Malaysia Homeschool Unite come in.

We offer links to free worksheets on other sites (and more in
the near future!). As well as have some that were made for the
MHU forums use.

We are there when you have questions, and when you want to hit
your head on the wall.

We offer not just the links but an ear, and a shoulder when
they are needed. *Insya-Allah, Amin~*


Yours sincerely, Mohd Azhar Zahir Advertising  Marketing 
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Re: Problem gdm 2.24, xdmcp D-BUS?

2009-02-02 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 10:34:46PM +0100, Klaus Friis Østergaard wrote:

 Thanks, but how do I reverse back to gdm 2.20? Is this possible with
 the portupgrade tools?

You could use ports-mgmt/portdowngrade for this or you could download
http://www.laverenz.de/gdm-2.20.tar.gz and extract in in the
/usr/ports/x11 directory.

Uwe

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intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread gahn
Hi all:

What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine and 
would like to install freebsd on it.

Thanks


  
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Re: Error compiling Imagmagick

2009-02-02 Thread Warren Liddell

run make config in graphics/ImageMagick and uncheck the Run bundled

self-tests after build option.
This will continue the install. You may want to provide the output of the 
failing test through send-pr, so that it can be investigated.
  


I went around it by using pkg_add

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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 02:27:20PM -0500, William Bulley wrote:

 According to Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu on Mon, 02/02/09 at 14:12:
  
  I am a little lost here and haven't tried a lot on USB devices yet - 
  though I haven't had these kind of problems.
  
  But, after doing the fdisk stuff and before trying to mount, did you
  do a newfs?
  
  Another thing would be to try the old   
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1024
  and see if it will write to it and wipe enough stuff to free it up.
  Up the count if you think it makes any difference.
 
 Thanks.  According to the newfs(8) man page it is used only for BSD
 style file systems (ufs and ufs2).  I am okay with the FAT16 formatted
 SD card, I'm just upset that I paid for a 2.0 GB card and ended up with
 what seems to be a 1.0 GB card.  I would be happy if I could make the
 SD card look like this:
 
slice 1  2.0 GB (well, 1920 MB if you insist)
slice 2  UNUSED
slice 3  UNUSED
slice 4  UNUSED
 
 And I thought I had done just that using fdisk(8).  But I must have gotten
 some of the beg and end paramaters set up wrong.

OK.I thought you were trying to make a FreeBSD type slice on it, thus
the newfs thought.   It won't mount if it isn't newfsed and is FreeBSD type.

I suppose FreeBSD's fdisk will make MS types, but have never tried it.
But, if it will, then it will also do it after wiping the device with dd.
After doing that, you should be able to just tell it to turn all the space 
on the drive in to one slice of whatever type it will handle.

jerry



 
 If the card is indeed 2.0 GB in size, and following in the style of the
 originally reported parameters of this card:
 
da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)
 
 that is, 64 heads, 32 sectors per track, and 960 cylinders,
 (this evidently from what the BIOS reports and understands) I had
 assumed that I could merely increase the cylinder count up to 1920
 and leave the head and sector information as it was.  But as I said
 earlier, this didn't seem to work.  I know I have to leave room at
 the beginning for the MBR or the like, but the tools are either too
 low level, or too high level, or my understanding of all this is not
 up to speed.  Why can't an SD card advertised (and sold) as a 2.0 GB
 card actually hold (approximately) 2.0 GB?  That is what bugs me...
 
 I believe that FAT16 is capable of addressing a 2.0 GB disk drive, yes?
 
 Regards,
 
 web...
 
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 William Bulley Email: w...@umich.edu
 
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error compiling kdebase 4.2 on AMD64

2009-02-02 Thread Warren Liddell
Im currently running AMD64 4gig FreebSD7.1-STABLE .. below is the error 
msg when trying to compile the new KDE4.2 KDEBASE


--

[  0%] Building CXX object 
apps/lib/konq/CMakeFiles/konq.dir/konq_popupmenuinformation.o
cd /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/build/apps/lib/konq  
/usr/bin/c++   -D_GNU_SOURCE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII 
-D_REENTRANT -DKDE_DEPRECATED_WARNINGS -DMAKE_KONQ_LIB -O2 
-fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Woverloaded-virtual -fvisibility=hidden 
-fvisibility-inlines-hidden -O2 -DNDEBUG -DQT_NO_DEBUG -fPIC 
-I/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/build/apps/lib/konq 
-I/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/apps/lib/konq 
-I/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/build/apps 
-I/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/build 
-I/usr/local/kde4/include -I/usr/local/kde4/include/KDE 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtXmlPatterns -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtWebKit 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtHelp -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtAssistant 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtDBus -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtTest 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtUiTools -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtScript 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtSvg -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtXml 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtSql -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtOpenGL 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtNetwork -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtDesigner 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/Qt3Support -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtGui 
-I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/local/include/qt4/Qt 
-I/usr/local/share/qt4/mkspecs/default -I/usr/local/include/qt4 
-I/usr/local/include -o CMakeFiles/konq.dir/konq_popupmenuinformation.o 
-c 
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/apps/lib/konq/konq_popupmenuinformation.cpp
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/apps/lib/konq/konq_popupmenuinformation.cpp: 
In member function 'void KonqPopupMenuInformation::setItems(const 
KFileItemList)':
/usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/apps/lib/konq/konq_popupmenuinformation.cpp:69: 
error: 'const class KFileItemList' has no member named 'targetUrlList'

*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/build.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/build.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.2.0/build.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4.
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Re: Screen problem on booting

2009-02-02 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Fernando Apesteguía wrote:

Hi all,

I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p2

Since a few days I've noticed something weird. On booting, all the
text I see is shifted to the left, so I lose the first ten letters or
so in every line of text.

After login, once I type startx the X Window system seems to be OK
_and_ if I go back to a console with Alt-Ctrl-Fn the console is fine
again.

My graphic card is an ATI Radeon HD2400.

Anybody noticed it?

Thanks in advance.

PS: In console mode, reset command doesn't fix the problem.
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Adjust the horizontal position with the controls on the monitor while 
booting? My LCD flat panel has an auto adjust button which does the same 
thing.



Chris
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Re: installworld fails - nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: too many levels of symbolic links

2009-02-02 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 08:00:58AM -0900, Mel wrote:
 On Saturday 31 January 2009 07:09:39 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  I'm upgrading from 7.1-prerelease to 7.1-stable. I followed the manual.
  make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, reboot,
  make installworld fails with
 
  install: /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: Too many levels of
  symbolic links
 
 Can you provide output of:
 ls -l /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.IS8859-1/LC_TIME

# ls -l /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  365 31 Jan 16:26 /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC
_TIME
#

HOwever, in the meantime, I just deleted all locale/nb* during installworld
stage to get past that error. I'm not sure that what I got in the end
under locale/nb* is what you'd expect.

thank you
anton

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Mech Eng Dept
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University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 
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Re: Patching / Updating / Upgrading

2009-02-02 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Akenner wrote:
 Hello all,

 I've been using this list to my advantage for a while to learn things
 I can't seem to grasp, and I've gotten great amounts of help.

 I have a question in regards to the process of patching / Updating /
 Upgrading I'd like a hand with. I have two machines running FreeBSD
 7.1-RELEASE and I'd like to make sure I've got security fixes on my
 test machine. I'm saying test amchine because the box I'm typing this
 from is an active needed desktop system I'm using for a lot of things
 right now, and I figured my best bet would be to set up another
 machine with a similar installation set so I could test out new ideas
 on that instead of risking breaking something on this one.

Definitely a good idea, if you have machines to spare.


 Anyway, I've been reading up on the CVS idea and asking things about
 freebsd-update, and I guess my question is more along these lines:

 If I wanted to just make sure I've got bug fixes and security patches,
 would CVS or FreeBSD-Update be best for this? Or are they both good
 for this? I know in the Unix world there are generally a lot of things
 that do one thing very well but can generally do other things too.

For getting just the security fixes for your -RELEASE version,
freebsd-update is by far the easiest way to go. Only thing you need to
do is run:

# freebsd-update fetch
# freebsd-update install

These can even be combined into one:

# freebsd-update fetch install

Depending on whether a new kernel was installed, you may or may not have
to reboot.  (it is easy to see on the messages whether a new
/boot/kernel/kernel file was installed). If you are using a custom
kernel, the process is slightly more involved: Every time the updates
touch the kernel, you will have to rebuild your custom kernel. If you
know nothing on custom kernels (yet) you are running GENERIC and you
just need the above procedure.

For details, please refer to:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

(esp. sect 24.2.2)


 I'm reading on CVS right now and it seems I could use this to keep the
 machine updated, but I'm having some issues understanding the idea of
 how it works. Basically, if I'm running 7.1-RELEASE, isn't that
 already the updated version? Or, have I maybe misunderstood something,
 and the tree RELEASE for 7.1 has bug fixes and security patches added
 to it, and I could CVSup to the newest release of 7.1 ?


7.1 is the latest RELEASE. Although new feature will not be added into
it, you could use csup/cvsup to get the security fixes. These would be
the same as the ones you can get (without recompiling anything) with
freebsd-update as described above. If you really wish to track a
development version of FreeBSD, you can use CVSup to get 7-STABLE (this
is the continuing development branch, based on the work of 7.1. In the
future, developments from this branch will get us to 7.2-RELEASE). Or,
if you are really adventurous, you could try running -CURRENT  (which
will in time become FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE). More info is here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html

If you just need the security updates for 7.1-RELEASE, freebsd-update is
really the painless way to go. But CVSup can also do it, and it will be
a nice exercise ;)

 Also, FreeBSD-update came across my reading, and it seems to be
 similar to swaret in the Slackware world. I know it isn't the same
 thing as BSD seems much more source based than other OSs, but I would
 like to get at least one of the ways to keep updated picked out, and
 started using on the test machine to make sure I fully understand it
 before using it to update my main box.


Go ahead and  use it on your main system. Freebsd-update is safe (you
can even rollback the updates if need be). As I said, unless you are
running a custom kernel (and you are not probably), this is just two
commands. And there no other settings needed beforehand.


 One of the things I did was make two copies of the example CVS
 standard supfile; one I made in that directory as standard.bak and
 then I copied a copy of it to the /root directory to look at and maybe
 edit as well, but as I said, I could use a hand in deciding which
 option is going to work best.


If you decide to go the CVSup way for the security fixes, you would need
to make sure you have this line:

*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_1

(This is already in the standard supfile normally)

To move to 7-STABLE, you would need to change it to:

*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7

(You will find this in the sample stable-supfile)

Then, follow the instructions in chapter 24. If you are getting confused
with the many different possible tags, this will probably make them clear:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html

 So if anyone could lend a little but in typing out what they use for
 updates and how they go about it, I'd appreciate it. I've already
 gotten a full CVSup file 

Re: Error compiling Imagmagick

2009-02-02 Thread matt donovan
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Warren Liddell shin...@maydias.com wrote:

 run make config in graphics/ImageMagick and uncheck the Run bundled

 self-tests after build option.
 This will continue the install. You may want to provide the output of the
 failing test through send-pr, so that it can be investigated.



 I went around it by using pkg_add


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Believe this is a well known problem anyways. Since this is the 10th time or
so that I have seen the errors for PerlMagick tests on this mailing list
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Re: freebsd and multicasting software

2009-02-02 Thread Tim Judd
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM, gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi, all:

 Does anyone know multicasting packages (udp based) that I can test on the
 freebsd? I am using 6.3 and it comes with vlc-0.8.6i and doesn't support udp
 streaming.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated..




udpcast?

http://udpcast.linux.lu/


It's one of my goals to play with this software in greater detail so I can
truly evaluate it and give it my own personal (for my own personal needs)
thumbs up or down.

G'luck
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zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Omer Faruk Sen
Hi,

Can I use zfs on / using FreeBSD 7.1?  I also use
http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ script to create mirror is
there such a a tool for ZFS to use on Fbsd 7.1?

Regards.
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Re: apt of freebsd

2009-02-02 Thread Ivan Voras
Alexander Wolf wrote:
 Ivan Voras пишет:
 It's probably used for the Linux emulation in FreeBSD, you can't use
 it with FreeBSD native packages.
 
 Hmm... I'm maybe can use it for web-applications? Or not?

You cannot use it for FreeBSD packages at all.



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Re: X.org-update - screen garbled / settings for xorg.conf?

2009-02-02 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:31:28PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  I've got hald running as per /etc/rc.conf with hald_enable=YES as
  well as moused (moused_enable=YES in rc.conf).
 
 what??? where's hald_enable=YES documented?
 There's nothing about this in X, dbus, or hald manual pages.
 Perhaps this is why my X servers won't work and dbus keeps complaining
 that it cannot connect..
 

Hi,

Running portupgrade with batch_enable=YES by default I also haven't
noticed anything during the upgrade. 

Then I ran into the same error that your have - dbus complaining about
not being able to connect. After spending quite some time googlin'
around I finally hit this:

http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html
and more specifically
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#full-gnome

I finally enabled everything but gdm since I prefer to start up in
console mode then manually going to X (which is very handy now as
there are serious problems with X)

Hope this helps,
-ewald
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Omer Faruk Sen omerf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Can I use zfs on / using FreeBSD 7.1?  I also use
 http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/http://people.freebsd.org/%7Erse/mirror/script
  to create mirror is
 there such a a tool for ZFS to use on Fbsd 7.1?

 Regards.


Are you sure you want to do this?
ZFS is still marked an experimental feature last time I checked; and if
FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support, you'll be stuck with a unbootable
disk.  I'd stick with the more mature, tested methods like gmirror or
gvinum.  Nothing beats a hardware raid though.
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Re: problems building Parse::RecDescent

2009-02-02 Thread Frank Shute
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 09:20:54PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

 I'm trying to build p5-Apache-MP3-4.00 from ports. I had it installed and
 working, but it recently stopped working so I'm rebuilding it. Unfortunately
 I'm having build problems.
 
 ===  Building for p5-Ogg-Vorbis-Header-0.03_1
 cp Header.pm blib/lib/Ogg/Vorbis/Header.pm
 /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 -Mblib -MInline=NOISY,_INSTALL_ -MOgg::Vorbis::Header
 -e1 0.03 blib/arch
 Starting Build Prepocess Stage
 Finished Build Prepocess Stage
 
 Starting Build Parse Stage
 This innvocation of Inline requires the Parse::RecDescent module.
 Can't locate version.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
 /usr/ports/audio/p5-Ogg-Vorbis-Header/work/Ogg-Vorbis-Header-0.03/blib/arch
 /usr/ports/audio/p5-Ogg-Vorbis-Header/work/Ogg-Vorbis-Header-0.03/blib/arch
 /usr/ports/audio/p5-Ogg-Vorbis-Header/work/Ogg-Vorbis-Header-0.03/blib/lib
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9 .) at
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/Parse/RecDescent.pm line 1722.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/Parse/RecDescent.pm line 1722.
 Compilation failed in require at
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/Inline/C/ParseRecDescent.pm line 14.
 
  at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/Inline/C.pm line 322
 INIT failed--call queue aborted.
 *** Error code 2
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/p5-Ogg-Vorbis-Header/work/Ogg-Vorbis-Header-0.03.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/p5-Ogg-Vorbis-Header.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/www/p5-Apache-MP3.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Mike

In that situation I'd try  build devel/p5-Parse-RecDescent (or
re-install it) and then have another go at building the module you're
trying to build.

If it then works, you might want to file a pr against it.

I'm assuming you did all the perl stuff in UPDATING when going to
5.8.9

Regards,

-- 

 Frank 


 Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html 

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Re: Excessive letter-spacing in firefox3 under wine

2009-02-02 Thread Tore Lund
Tijl Coosemans wrote:
 On Thursday 29 January 2009 22:02:35 Tore Lund wrote:
 Subject line says it all - large gaps between all letters.  Here is a
 screenshot: http://softblur.com/misc/spacing.jpg.

 I suppose there are others who run firefox3 under wine on 7.1-RELEASE
 with no problems, so can anyone think of what's wrong?  I have imported
 fonts from my Windows 2000 installation, and I am using the same profile
 that works well with native FreeBSD firefox and firefox on Windows 2000.
 I believe this did not happen with firefox2.  Grateful for any hint.
 
 What exactly did you do to import those fonts? You should put them in a
 separate directory under /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts, create fonts.scale
 and fonts.dir in that directory using mkfontscale and mkfontdir, then
 run fc-cache -f -v and (for completeness) add a FontPath entry to
 your xorg.conf.
 
 Alternatively, you can install the x11-fonts/webfonts port, which
 contains the most commonly used fonts.

I have webfonts.  In addition, I copied my Windows fonts to
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/Fonts, thinking that might have something to do
with it.

 (Actually, I only use wine in order to get flash9, so if anyone could
 help me solve this problem instead, that's even better.  I have tried
 the available recipes with no success - my firefox3 just freezes.)

This formulation is awkward.  I meant to say that I wanted flash9 to
work with native FreeBSD firefox3.

 Try to get it to work under linux-firefox first.

Thanks for your advice, Tijl.  I had already done these things, but the
problem, I believe, is that linux firefox3 is a beta.  As it happens, I
now find that native firefox2 (2.0.0.20) works with my present setup, so
I will simply use that version for the time being.

I suppose linux firefox2 might also work, but there is no need for me to
try it since I now have native firefox2, with flash9, with sound.
-- 
Tore

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[6.3] ALT-CTRL-DEL = clean unmount?

2009-02-02 Thread Gilles
Hello

I was wondering: When hitting the ALT-CTRL-DEL combination as an easy
way to call reboot, does this unmount disks properly?

I'm concerned because I did this recently, and here's what dmesg says:

ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, controller found non-ATA66 cable
ad0: 19092MB Seagate ST320413A 3.39 at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: CDROM ASUS CD-S400/A/V2.3H at ata1-master UDMA33
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted

Thank you.

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Re: apt of freebsd

2009-02-02 Thread Ivan Voras
Alexander Wolf wrote:
 I'm find into /usr/ports/sysutils/apt porting from Debian APT.
 
 How to using this on FreeBSD?

It's probably used for the Linux emulation in FreeBSD, you can't use
it with FreeBSD native packages.



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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:


  da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)


 it's something wrong with FreeBSD here, it gets detected as 1GB.
 it has nothing to do with filesystem on it.


Nobody's blamed the SD/CF reader.

I call dibs to blame the SD/CF reader.  Isolate the problem to find the
culprit...

Check the USB reader -- I'm curious to see if that fixes the problem.

And FYI -- No matter the Heads/Sectors/Cylinders, there are ~200 512byte
sectors, roughly equal to 1GB.

If it's not the adapter, you got cheated in the purchase.
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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman

Andreas Rudisch wrote:

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:24:35 -0800 (PST)
gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine and 
would like to install freebsd on it.



You can use 7.1-RELEASE-i386 (32bit) or 7.1-RELEASE-amd64 (64bit)
depending on whether or not you are going to run 64 bit software or
want to use more than 4GB of RAM.

Andreas
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It is a little more complicated... i386 also supports 4GB with the PAE 
kernel option... it is frequently better to use this then to use amd64 
because (a decreasing I hope) number of ports do not compile and/or work 
properly on amd64... for example if your using the machine as a GUI 
desktop *AND* you have a nvidia video card you get almost 10 times 
better performence with i386 because amd64 has a hard time reconizing 
PCI cards installed above the 4gb limit (the phsycial addr is above RAM)

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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, William Bulley wrote:


Thanks.  According to the newfs(8) man page it is used only for BSD
style file systems (ufs and ufs2).


newfs_msdos(8)


 I am okay with the FAT16 formatted
SD card, I'm just upset that I paid for a 2.0 GB card and ended up with
what seems to be a 1.0 GB card.  I would be happy if I could make the
SD card look like this:

  slice 1  2.0 GB (well, 1920 MB if you insist)
  slice 2  UNUSED
  slice 3  UNUSED
  slice 4  UNUSED


It's generally not useful to slice/partition a small SD card.  Without a 
slice table, the whole device is just one slice.


Offhand I don't know if you can overwrite an existing slice table (boot 
block) with just a 'newfs_msdos /dev/da1'.  Probably.


If not, you can just 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=512 cnt=1' and then 
do the newfs_msdos.


If you plan to use that card in a camera, you are a little safer doing a 
full or low-level format with the card in the camera.  Some cameras 
create and like not-quite-right filesystems.  Older Canon cameras, for 
instance.


Finally, there are more than a few reports of SD cards with false 
capacities bought on ebay.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: apt of freebsd

2009-02-02 Thread Alexander Wolf

Ivan Voras пишет:

It's probably used for the Linux emulation in FreeBSD, you can't use
it with FreeBSD native packages.


Hmm... I'm maybe can use it for web-applications? Or not?


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Re: Graphics tablet / Xorg / mouse problems

2009-02-02 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Antonio Rieser wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I recently installed FreeBSD 7.1 on an ACER Aspire
 1680 laptop. I'm running KDE 3.5 and the most recent Xorg port with a
 Wacom Bamboo tablet and the wacom driver from the ports collection.  I
 have the following problems with the tablet and mouse: ...

Just to keep you up to date, Bartosz is on it. Of course, I cannot give
you a schedule. With the involvement of hald things seem to get much
more complicated. It might be a temporary solution to deactivate
hald support.

Regards
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Good wireless cards for freebsd

2009-02-02 Thread Warren Liddell
Im looking to go wireless on my network an after some easy but good 
wireless NIC cards that freebsd has good support for.  The network card 
im looking at is *P-Link Wireless N PCI Adapter, Atheros, 2T2R, 2.4GHz, 
802.11n Draft 2.0, 802.11g/b


*Thoughts and experiences welcomed.*
*
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Daniel Lannstrom
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 04:18:28PM +0200, Omer Faruk Sen wrote:
 Can I use zfs on / using FreeBSD 7.1? 
Yes. But you need a /boot partition so the bootloader can find the
kernel. See http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot and
http://www.ish.com.au/solutions/articles/freebsdzfs 
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support, you'll be stuck with a unbootable
disk.  I'd stick with the more mature, tested methods like gmirror or
gvinum.  Nothing beats a hardware raid though.

IMHO hardware RAID beats nothing. it's mostly crap.

gmirror/gstripe/gconcat works well and always
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Homeschool sebagai Gaya Hidup?

2009-02-02 Thread Malaysian Homeschool Family
Assalamualaikum,

Sertai kami dalam playgroup Komuniti Malaysia Homeschool Unite, khas buat 
keluarga homeschool dan terbuka kepada keluarga yang berminat untuk menambah 
ilmu serta kenalan. Anda juga boleh berikan 
cadangan anda.
- Jom klik di sini : http://www.forum.littlekittle.com


Segmen Iklan: Only RM 25 for 3 bulan! Segmen direktori niaga buat warga 
Malaysia! Terbuka kepada WAHM (Work-at-Home-Mum)
- Jom klik di sini : http://littlekittle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6

Malaysian Homeschool Family Blog.
- Jom klik di sini : http://littlekittle.com/blog/

Parents have always been their children's First Teachers.

When children reach the age of 7 in most country we are told we need to send 
them off to Public School for approximately 8 hours a day. Why?

Parents have taught their children from the day they were born. We teach them 
to walk, talk, tie their shoes, and so very much more.

There is no set age at which a child can begin learning reading, math, history, 
science, art.

Every child learns in their own way.


Some children may do just fine learning out of a text book, sitting at a desk 
for 8 hours. There are certainly many more options that help children learn 
that would not be considered a normal education.

Parents have been teaching their children at home since the beginning of time.


Home schooling our children at home is a personal decision for everyone. No one 
can make the choice for you.

What works for one family may not work for another. Children will not all want 
to study bugs at the same time.

They won't all want to know why condensation forms on the windows in the 
winter, at the same time that little kiddy down the street wants to know the 
same thing.

Parents understand their child better then anyone else does.

We understand what makes our child go; hmmm how would this work if I put it on 
like this instead of the way the directions say.

We have always been our children's teachers. Being as a parent and a teacher 
has always been the way the world works.


In todays world it is no different.

We choose now to keep our children learning, learning at home with us.

As our children's teachers we are always on the lookout for things that we can 
use to help in their learning.


That is where our forum Malaysia Homeschool Unite come in.

We offer links to free worksheets on other sites (and more in the near 
future!). As well as have some that were made for the MHU forums use.

We are there when you have questions, and when you want to hit your head on the 
wall.

We offer not just the links but an ear, and a shoulder when they are needed. 
*Insya-Allah, Amin~*


Yours sincerely,
Mohd Azhar Zahir
Advertising  Marketing
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Re: zfs root partition boot?

2009-02-02 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support, you'll be stuck with a unbootable
 disk.  I'd stick with the more mature, tested methods like gmirror or
 gvinum.  Nothing beats a hardware raid though.

 IMHO hardware RAID beats nothing. it's mostly crap.

 gmirror/gstripe/gconcat works well and always


Yes, each person will have their own unique view.  To dismiss or put down
someone else's view seems unrational

There are times I prefer software raid, there are times I prefer hardware
raid, neither of which will solve 100% of the problems 100% of the time.


My point still stands that **IF** FreeBSD decides to kill ZFS support,
you'll be SOL.




And quote the source PROPERLY next time.  The 2 letter word you DID NOT
quote me on makes a difference in the point I was making.

If you want to exchange flames, remove the -questions email list from the
recipients.
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Re: short-changed on SD card?

2009-02-02 Thread Mike Jeays

On February 2, 2009 06:13:16 pm Tim Judd wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Wojciech Puchar 

 woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
   da1: 960MB (1967616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 960C)
 
  it's something wrong with FreeBSD here, it gets detected as 1GB.
  it has nothing to do with filesystem on it.

 Nobody's blamed the SD/CF reader.

 I call dibs to blame the SD/CF reader.  Isolate the problem to find the
 culprit...

 Check the USB reader -- I'm curious to see if that fixes the problem.

 And FYI -- No matter the Heads/Sectors/Cylinders, there are ~200
 512byte sectors, roughly equal to 1GB.

 If it's not the adapter, you got cheated in the purchase.
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I think I would try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=1M
without the count option, and see how many blocks it writes. You at least 
start with a clean slate, and can run fdisk and newfs, if you want a BSD-only 
device. Make sure you write on the right device!


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Re: Xorg upgrade disaster: Xlib: extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.

2009-02-02 Thread Da Rock
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 21:49 +0100, Marcin Cieslak wrote:
 O. Hartmann wrote:
  After upgrading one of my FreeBSD 8.0-CUR/amd64 boxes to new xorg-7.4
  and having done hurting recompiling nearly everything/package twice now
  firefox3 still doesn't work properly and hits me when starting with this
  error message:
  
  Xlib:  extension Generic Event Extension missing on display :0.0.
 
 
 Looks like libraries (Xext among others) already support the XGE extension:
 
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg/36483
 
 but the current the 1.5 Xorg server does not support and the 1.6 release 
 is behind schedule a bit:
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=Njg4OA
 
 I keep getting this error after upgrade of X today but everything works 
 as usual.
 

Except for me: I have mplayer not working as well as other misc X progs.
Same error...

  Then firefox3 freezes forever, showing something like the background or
  pixel remnants of windows/picograms moving over its window.
 
 The firefox problem is unrelated I think to the message above (as 
 demonstrated later in the thred)
 
 --Marcin
 
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Build/install failure in textproc/docbook-sk: catalog parsing error

2009-02-02 Thread Jason Morgan
Greetings,

I am having trouble installing xorg on a fairly clean machine. The
problem stems from a failed build/install of textproc/docbook-sk,
which seems to have been pulled in from HAL.

Does someone know if this is a known issue, or if it's possibly some
problem with my system specifically? Is there a work-around---I've
already tried to deinstall all ports and begin from scratch? Does a
default install of xorg, including HAL, really need docbook? Should I
submit a PR?

Details below:

$ uname -a
FreeBSD crichton.skepsi.net 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #3: 
Sun Feb 1 21:24:47 EST 2009
r...@crichton.skepsi.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CRICHTON i386

$ cd /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-sk 
$ make install clean
===  Installing for docbook-sk-4.1.2_4
===   docbook-sk-4.1.2_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr -
found
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if textproc/docbook-sk already installed
xmlcatmgr: missing XML declaration; invalid document
xmlcatmgr: catalog does not look like an XML file; missing prolog
xmlcatmgr: errors while parsing catalog; aborting
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-sk.


Like I said, this is a fairly clean machine:

$ pkg_info
bash-3.2.48_1   The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell
docbook-1.4 Meta-port for the different versions of the
DocBook DTD
docbook-4.1_3   V4.1 of the DocBook DTD, designed for technical
documentation
docbook-4.2 V4.2 of the DocBook DTD, designed for technical
documentation
docbook-4.3 DocBook/SGML DTD V4.3, designed for technical
documentation
docbook-4.4 DocBook/SGML DTD V4.4, designed for technical
documentation
docbook-4.5 DocBook/SGML DTD V4.5, designed for technical
documentation
docbook-xml-4.2_1   XML version of the DocBook DTD
docbook-xml-4.3 DocBook/XML DTD V4.3, designed for technical
documentation
docbook-xml-4.4 DocBook/XML DTD V4.4, designed for technical
documentation
docbook-xml-4.5 DocBook/XML DTD V4.5, designed for technical
documentation
gettext-0.17_1  GNU gettext package
libiconv-1.11_1 A character set conversion library
libtool-1.5.26  Generic shared library support script
portmaster-2.6  Manage your ports without external databases or
languages
unzip-5.52_5List, test and extract compressed files in a ZIP
archive
xmlcatmgr-2.2   SGML and XML catalog manager


Thanks for your time.

-- 
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How to tell what $var assigned PORTVERSION equals.

2009-02-02 Thread Adam Vande More
How does one find out the PORTVERSION of a port when it's in a format 
like such:


PORTVERSION=${KDE4_VERSION}

All the docs/examples I can find easily show PORTVERSION assigned a 
number, not variable.


Thanks
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Re: How to tell what $var assigned PORTVERSION equals.

2009-02-02 Thread Eitan Adler
Adam Vande More wrote:
 How does one find out the PORTVERSION of a port when it's in a format
 like such:
 
 PORTVERSION=${KDE4_VERSION}
cd /usr/ports
grep -R KDE4_VERSION .
./Mk/bsd.kde4.mk:KDE4_VERSION=  4.1.4

 
 All the docs/examples I can find easily show PORTVERSION assigned a
 number, not variable.
 
 Thanks
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Re: How to tell what $var assigned PORTVERSION equals.

2009-02-02 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 03), Adam Vande More said:
 How does one find out the PORTVERSION of a port when it's in a format 
 like such:
 
 PORTVERSION=${KDE4_VERSION}
 
 All the docs/examples I can find easily show PORTVERSION assigned a 
 number, not variable.

Running make -V PORTVERSION asks make to print what the variable is
without actually building the port itself.

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getting oddball boundary quirk reading Samsung disk

2009-02-02 Thread Dieter
I'm attempting to dig my way out of the Seagate 7200.11 firmware disaster.
Need a non-7200.11 place to store my data before messing with the drives.
Trying a Samsung.

disk: Samsung HD103UJ 1TB SATA
controller: nforce4-ultra
FreeBSD 7.0 amd64

Brand new disk.  Running a few tests before entrusting data to it.
I read the entire disk with dd of=/dev/null, it ran fine.
I wrote the entire disk with 0x55, it ran fine.
I read the entire disk with dd piped to hexdump, I get quirks
at 2 oddball spots.  Reading 1 sector at a time works fine.
Reading 2 sectors gives i/o error.  Repeatable.

If there was a boundary quirk (like the one at the lba48 boundary
on Seagates) I would expect an error the first time I read the
disk (before writing 0x55).

Read ahead is listed as supported and enabled, so the data should
be in the disk's cache when reading with bs=1024.


# dd if=/dev/ad6 bs=512 skip=1936787900 count=1 | hexdump -C
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes transferred in 0.000160 secs (3200423 bytes/sec)
  55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55  55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55  ||
*
0200
# dd if=/dev/ad6 bs=512 skip=1936787901 count=1 | hexdump -C
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes transferred in 0.000155 secs (3303821 bytes/sec)
  55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55  55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55  ||
*
0200
# dd if=/dev/ad6 bs=1024 skip=1936787900 count=1 | hexdump -C
dd: /dev/ad6: Input/output error
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 0.000104 secs (0 bytes/sec)
# 


# dd if=/dev/ad6 bs=512 skip=1939213518 count=1 | hexdump -C
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes transferred in 0.000152 secs (3365962 bytes/sec)
  55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55  55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55  ||
*
0200
# dd if=/dev/ad6 bs=512 skip=1939213519 count=1 | hexdump -C
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes transferred in 0.000260 secs (1970168 bytes/sec)
  55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55  55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55  ||
*
0200
# dd if=/dev/ad6 bs=1024 skip=1939213518 count=1 | hexdump -C
dd: /dev/ad6: Input/output error
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 0.000101 secs (0 bytes/sec)
# 

ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE 
LBA=1936787980
ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE 
LBA=1939213518
ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=40UNCORRECTABLE 
LBA=1939213518

Running the test again isn't generating additional errors to console/dmesg.

I ran the same incoming inspection test on Seagates, including
a couple of 1 TB (exact same number of sectors as the Samsung),
and it ran fine.
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Re: no cats at home, but system (7.0-STABLE) reboots

2009-02-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, February 02, 2009 a las 09:34:38AM -0900, Mel escribió:

  but the other messages (you have cut out) says that it run through shutdown
  at 23:06:33 and later at 23:42:42 it did a normal re-boot while I was
  sleeping already; this does not make sense; don't you agree?
 
 
 Right, I'm not awake yet. 36 minutes is odd. The only scenario I can think of:
 - acpi shutdown did not work, it was instead a 'halt' and in your sleep you 
 pressed the any key to start the reboot ;)
 
 You can see if shutdown works properly by shutdown -p NOW. Then try the same 
 using the power button, just in case there's something different. If that all 
 works, search for monkeys.

Both worked fine in bring the system to halt and power-off state; I'm
always using the power button and never ever saw this problem;

I'm searching for monkeys or intruders ...

matthias

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Re: intel 64-bit version?

2009-02-02 Thread Ivailo Tanusheff
You may use amd64 version for full support of the 64 functionalities.
Do not get the wrong impression, this is not only for AMD processors and 
allow you to use the full strength of the 64 bit architecture.
You may also use i386 branch and use PAE config options if you have more 
than 4 GB RAM.

Still, the best idea is to use amd64 version.

Regards,

Ivailo Tanusheff
Deputy Head of IT Department
ProCredit Bank (Bulgaria) AD




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Hi all:

What is the image for intel 64-bit version of freebsd? i have xeon machine 
and would like to install freebsd on it.

Thanks


 
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Re: Screen problem on booting

2009-02-02 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
On 2/2/09, Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote:
 Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p2
 
  Since a few days I've noticed something weird. On booting, all the
  text I see is shifted to the left, so I lose the first ten letters or
  so in every line of text.
 
  After login, once I type startx the X Window system seems to be OK
  _and_ if I go back to a console with Alt-Ctrl-Fn the console is fine
  again.
 
  My graphic card is an ATI Radeon HD2400.
 
  Anybody noticed it?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  PS: In console mode, reset command doesn't fix the problem.
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 Adjust the horizontal position with the controls on the monitor while
 booting? My LCD flat panel has an auto adjust button which does the same
 thing.

Yep, but the point is that it worked fine some time ago (probably with
-p1, though I'm not sure). And as I said after using X, if I go back
again to console mode, monitor settings are correct. Doesn't this
means there is some kind of problem with video at start up?
None of my other operating systems in that machine suffer this problem.

Thanks



 Chris

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