Re: cc1: error: unrecognized command line option -mfdpic

2009-06-25 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 18:09:36 Jin Guojun wrote: This option -mfdpic is shown in manual page for gcc 4.1 or later -mfdpic Select the FDPIC ABI, that uses function descriptors to represent pointers to functions. Without any PIC/PIE-related options, it implies -fPIE.

Re: Isolating high cpu load at function level

2009-06-25 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:42:06 Gary Gatten wrote: I have a process with several threads - the main worker threads typically use 20% CPU - but after upgrading to a new version they're now using 90% cpu. I'm trying to determine what function these threads are performing that's requiring

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 25 June 2009 pm 13:03:01 Manish Jain wrote: If you want to make a case for replacing ed(1), you're going to have to come up with some concrete reasons for doing so, not just make a (long and hyperbolic) statement that you don't like it. requirements of being interactive. That's

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread perryh
ed is an interactive program, and it has always been considered as such, at least since BSD 4.2. Way back then there were three main editors, ex, vi, and ed. ed goes back at least as far as the Bell Labs 6th Edition (PDP-11), where it was the only editor in the distribution. ex and vi (and

PPPoE trouble handshaking

2009-06-25 Thread budsz
Hi, I got problem with FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE as router. I use TPLINK modem as bridging to my box. here is my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: default: #set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command #set log all set log Phase tun command speedy: set device PPPoE:rl1 set authname xx...@isp.net

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Manish Jain
John L. Templer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manish Jain wrote: If you want to make a case for replacing ed(1), you're going to have to come up with some concrete reasons for doing so, not just make a (long and hyperbolic) statement that you don't like it. Any Unix

Re: PPPoE trouble handshaking

2009-06-25 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
budsz wrote: I got problem with FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE as router. I use TPLINK modem as bridging to my box. Could you run tcpdump -ni rl1 while trying and post it to the list? Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt

2009-06-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT-200906 ia64, fresh installation Following the handbook, section 19.1 RAID1 - mirroring, I'm trying to use gmirror with 2 identical scsi disks: da0 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: SEAGATE ST318452LC 2213 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 160.000MB/s transfers

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:36:31AM -0400, John L. Templer typed: ed is an interactive program, and it has always been considered as such, at least since BSD 4.2. Way back then there were three main editors, ex, vi, and ed. If you had a nice video terminal then you used vi. But if you were

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Konrad Heuer
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Manish Jain wrote: If you want to make a case for replacing ed(1), you're going to have to come up with some concrete reasons for doing so, not just make a (long and hyperbolic) statement that you don't like it. Any Unix tool has to clearly fall either under the

Re: 7.2 system stuck trying at boot, trying to mount root device

2009-06-25 Thread usleepless
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:13:41 -0400, Forrest Aldrich for...@gmail.com wrote: I also did a proper mount, fsck, and umount under the LiveFS shell, which made no difference. I hope I'm just reading it in the wrong order. The

Re: PPPoE trouble handshaking

2009-06-25 Thread budsz
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nikos Vassiliadisnvass9...@gmx.com wrote: budsz wrote: I got problem with FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE as router. I use TPLINK modem as bridging to my box. Could you run tcpdump -ni rl1 while trying and post it to the list? If problem appear, I will do it. This

Re: Versioning File System for FreeBSD?

2009-06-25 Thread cpghost
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:33:23AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:57:34 +0200, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: Yep, you're right. I thought about a way to extend the API in a backwards compatible way, but that's not as easy or straight forward as it seems. In fact, it

Re: Versioning File System for FreeBSD?

2009-06-25 Thread cpghost
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:59:45AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:57:34PM +0200, cpghost wrote: Quite true! I see even more ambiguity here: What about a versioned file pointed to by hard links from two versioned directories? The more I think about it, the more

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Manish Jain
Ruben de Groot wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:36:31AM -0400, John L. Templer typed: ed is an interactive program, and it has always been considered as such, at least since BSD 4.2. Way back then there were three main editors, ex, vi, and ed. If you had a nice video terminal then you used

FreeBSD wireless connection problems

2009-06-25 Thread Jay Hall
Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a development box which is connected to the wireless network via an Intellinet wireless bridge. Periodically, the development box will no longer pass data on the network. However, checking the access point, I can see the bridge is still associated with the

Re: PPPoE trouble handshaking

2009-06-25 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
budsz wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nikos Vassiliadisnvass9...@gmx.com wrote: budsz wrote: I got problem with FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE as router. I use TPLINK modem as bridging to my box. Could you run tcpdump -ni rl1 while trying and post it to the list? If problem appear, I will do

Re: PPPoE trouble handshaking

2009-06-25 Thread budsz
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Nikos Vassiliadisnvass9...@gmx.com wrote: budsz wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nikos Vassiliadisnvass9...@gmx.com wrote: budsz wrote: I got problem with FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE as router. I use TPLINK modem as bridging to my box. Could you run

freeBSD logo

2009-06-25 Thread Dimitar Keranov
Hello, I want to make a t-shirt with the caption The Power to Serve but I can't find it in a good resolution. Can you send it to me? Thanks! D. Keranov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: freeBSD logo

2009-06-25 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:45:33PM +0300, Dimitar Keranov wrote: Hello, I want to make a t-shirt with the caption The Power to Serve but I can't find it in a good resolution. Can you send it to me? Last I knew you could get such T-shirts at the FreeBSD mall or one of the other sites listed on

Re: freeBSD logo

2009-06-25 Thread Peter Giessel
I want to make a t-shirt with the caption The Power to Serve but I can't find it in a good resolution. Can you send it to me? Vector formats (which would allow you to produce any resolution you want) are available here: http://www.freebsd.org/logo.html

error www/w3m

2009-06-25 Thread Zbigniew Komarnicki
Hello, I got next error on amd64 7.2-RELEASE-p2 # portmaster /usr/ports/www/w3m ... cc -I. -I. -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=athlon64 -I/usr/include/openssl -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DAUXBIN_DIR=\/usr/local/libexec/w3m\

Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt

2009-06-25 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: dev_taste(DEV,mirror/gm0) g_part_taste(PART,mirror/gm0) GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only -- recovery suggested.

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/6/24 Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com: everyone has hundreds of GB's on the disk No. No they don't. Please hang up and try again. If you need to make a collect call, please dial zero to speak with an oper- ator. -- -- ___

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:20:42 -0400, ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/24 Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com: everyone has hundreds of GB's on the disk No. No they don't. Please hang up and try again. If you need to make a collect call, please dial zero to speak with an

mounting network NTFS drive on FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, I am trying to figure out how to mount a network NTFS drive (192.168.16.3\backups) on a FreeBSD system. Can you point me to the appropriate documentation? The Handbook mentions the mount command but I am not sure I can do it using mount? Or can I?

Re: mounting network NTFS drive on FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, I am trying to figure out how to mount a network NTFS drive (192.168.16.3\backups) on a FreeBSD system. Can you point me to the appropriate documentation? The Handbook mentions the mount command but I am not sure I can do it using mount? Or can I?

Re: mounting network NTFS drive on FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:33:12 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to figure out how to mount a network NTFS drive (192.168.16.3\backups) on a FreeBSD system. Can you point me to the appropriate documentation? The Handbook mentions the mount command

Re: mounting network NTFS drive on FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Polytropon pisze: Because Windows does not conform to standards, you have to use mount_smbfs. As far as I understood, it doesn't even matter which file system is on the Windows disk. I will give an example. Just want to thank you and Manolis for such immediate help! I really appreciate it!

Re: upgrading installed ports: time to do it ?

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Whitehouse
dan wrote: On Tuesday 23 June 2009 23:21:21 Chris Whitehouse wrote: RW wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:58:41 +0100 Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: I'll probably get flamed for this but since I've been using ports-mgmt/portmanager I've almost forgotten about /usr/ports/UPDATING and

Re: upgrading installed ports: time to do it ?

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Whitehouse
RW wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:21:21 +0100 Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: RW wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:58:41 +0100 Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: I'll probably get flamed for this but since I've been using ports-mgmt/portmanager I've almost forgotten about

vde2 tap brings down external networking

2009-06-25 Thread Adam Vande More
I'm trying to network a couple of qemu vm together and to the outside world. After much pain and gnashing of teeth I found a setup that works temporarily. I start both vm's with a command similar to this: vde_switch -hub -tap /dev/tap0 chmod -R 666 /var/run/vde.ctl vdeqemu -vga cirrus -localtime

Re: The Gimp

2009-06-25 Thread Tim Judd
On 6/23/09, Rob Hurle rob1...@gmail.com wrote: Due to some meteorological disasters I've had to replace my 6.1 FreeBSD system and I've installed 7.2 on the refurbished i386 computer: freebsd [22:03] ~uname -a FreeBSD freebsd.connect-a.com.au 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:28:54PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On 25 June 2009 pm 13:03:01 Manish Jain wrote: If you want to make a case for replacing ed(1), you're going to have to come up with some concrete reasons for doing so, not just make a (long and hyperbolic) statement

Re: The Gimp

2009-06-25 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/6/23 Rob Hurle rob1...@gmail.com: freebsd [22:07] ~gimp [1] 3696 freebsd [22:09] ~ [1]    Segmentation fault            gimp freebsd [22:09] ~ If I run as root, there is no problem: freebsd [22:09] ~sudo gimp [1] 3700 freebsd [22:10] ~ [1]  + Suspended (tty output)        sudo

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Tim Judd
snip 20 years ago, I've written and edited voluminous fortran code on a silly rs232 terminal using ed. So, it is possible, and one can learn basics of ed in less than a hour. Don't you think so? Not when editors like ee and vi are available and more spoken of in today's topics. And I know

Re: freeBSD logo

2009-06-25 Thread Randall Wood
On Thursday 25 June 2009 05:16:12 pm Peter Giessel wrote: I want to make a t-shirt with the caption The Power to Serve but I can't find it in a good resolution. Can you send it to me? Vector formats (which would allow you to produce any resolution you want) are available here:

Re: freeBSD logo

2009-06-25 Thread Gary Gatten
Dude, you used the word cutie That's just messed up... - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu Jun 25 16:01:25 2009 Subject: Re: freeBSD logo On

Re: freeBSD logo

2009-06-25 Thread Randall Wood
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:16:12AM -0800, Peter Giessel wrote: I want to make a t-shirt with the caption The Power to Serve but I can't find it in a good resolution. Can you send it to me? Vector formats (which would allow you to produce any resolution you want) are available here:

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Gary Gatten
I like M$ Notepad - is there a version of that for FBSD? Actually the old edit from dos is sweet too - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Konrad Heuer kheu...@gwdg.de Cc: Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com;

Re: freeBSD logo

2009-06-25 Thread Randy Belk
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Randy Belkrandy.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Randall Woodrs...@cornell.edu wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:16:12AM -0800, Peter Giessel wrote: I want to make a t-shirt with the caption The Power to Serve but I can't find it in a good

Re: freeBSD logo

2009-06-25 Thread Randy Belk
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Randall Woodrs...@cornell.edu wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:16:12AM -0800, Peter Giessel wrote: I want to make a t-shirt with the caption The Power to Serve but I can't find it in a good resolution. Can you send it to me? Vector formats (which would allow

mkisofs in FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel Underwood
Looked for mkisofs in the online FreeBSD man pages, but couldn't find it. What is modern equivalent? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: mkisofs in FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:34:22 -0400 Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Looked for mkisofs in the online FreeBSD man pages, but couldn't find it. What is modern equivalent? It's in the sysutils/cdrtools port. -- Bruce Cran ___

Re: mkisofs in FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:34:22 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Looked for mkisofs in the online FreeBSD man pages, but couldn't find it. What is modern equivalent? Ther is no modern equivalent - mkisofs is the tool of choice, and it's very modern because it does the job well

Re: mkisofs in FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel Underwood
Ahh, so searching the manpages at FreeBSD.org (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi) will provide only those entries pertaining to the base OS? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: mkisofs in FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Daniel Underwood wrote: Ahh, so searching the manpages at FreeBSD.org (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi) will provide only those entries pertaining to the base OS? Not if you select FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE and Ports Here is the man page you were looking for:

xfburn fails with 'Undefined symbol __malloc_lock'

2009-06-25 Thread Markus Hoenicka
Hi, I've upgraded my laptop from 6.4 to 7.2-RELEASE. Essentially everything went fine, except that for some reason xfburn no longer works. If I install a package using portupgrade -f -PP, I see the following at runtime: mar...@yeti:/usr/home/markus# xfburn [1] 47214

Re: mkisofs in FreeBSD

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel Underwood
Got it. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: upgrading installed ports: time to do it ?

2009-06-25 Thread RW
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:20:12 +0100 Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: RW wrote: Portmanger does cope with most of the portupgrade -o and portupgrade -r entries, although sometime it will need to be run (or rerun) in pristine-mode. just curious, do you know this because you

Re: xfburn fails with 'Undefined symbol __malloc_lock'

2009-06-25 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Markus Hoenicka wrote: Hi, I've upgraded my laptop from 6.4 to 7.2-RELEASE. Essentially everything went fine, except that for some reason xfburn no longer works. If I install a package using portupgrade -f -PP, I see the following at runtime: mar...@yeti:/usr/home/markus# xfburn [1]

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 25 June 2009 pm 19:13:14 Konrad Heuer wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Manish Jain wrote: Maybe you're right, maybe not. 20 years ago, I've written and edited voluminous fortran code on a silly rs232 terminal using ed. So, it is possible, and one I do not believe you. This must have been

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
Ho, On 26 June 2009 am 04:32:31 Erik Osterholm wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:28:54PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: On 25 June 2009 pm 13:03:01 Manish Jain wrote: If you want to make a case for replacing ed(1), you're isn't there ee in the base system? ee is in /usr/bin, just like

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread John L. Templer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ruben de Groot wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:36:31AM -0400, John L. Templer typed: ed is an interactive program, and it has always been considered as such, at least since BSD 4.2. Way back then there were three main editors, ex, vi, and ed.

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:20:19 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 25 June 2009 pm 19:13:14 Konrad Heuer wrote: Maybe you're right, maybe not. 20 years ago, I've written and edited voluminous fortran code on a silly rs232 terminal using ed. So, it is possible, and one I do not

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:24:13 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: To be honest, I never have had a problem with /usr since disks are large enough to have all on only one. Mostly, partitioning according to directory structures has nothing to do with disk space, but with intention.

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread John L. Templer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: ed is an interactive program, and it has always been considered as such, at least since BSD 4.2. Way back then there were three main editors, ex, vi, and ed. ed goes back at least as far as the Bell Labs 6th Edition

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 26 June 2009 am 09:06:49 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:20:19 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 25 June 2009 pm 19:13:14 Konrad Heuer wrote: Maybe you're right, maybe not. 20 years ago, I've written and edited voluminous fortran code on a

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 26 June 2009 am 09:07:00 Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:24:13 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: To be honest, I never have had a problem with /usr since disks are large enough to have all on only one. Mostly, partitioning according to directory structures

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:50:31 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 26 June 2009 am 09:06:49 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: As far as 16 years back, VT220/VT320 terminals were in wide use in universities. Some of us learned our first regexp stuff by not only there, but ed was not the

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:55:48 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: this is not what I mean. I wanted to say, as long as the boot disk come up, I also have /usr available when I have the space to have it all on the same disk. I see. The fact that /usr isn't available after booting

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 26 June 2009 am 10:02:30 Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:55:48 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: this is not what I mean. I wanted to say, as long as the boot disk come up, I also have /usr available when I have the space to have it all on the same disk.

Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi,

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
On 26 June 2009 am 10:02:30 Polytropon wrote: Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany big brother is watching me. An xterm just came up with this message: The default editor in FreeBSD is vi, which is efficient to use when you have learned it, but somewhat user-unfriendly. To use ee (an easier

Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi,

2009-06-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:33:56 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 26 June 2009 am 10:02:30 Polytropon wrote: Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany big brother is watching me. Yes, Dr. Schäuble does so. :-) An xterm just came up with this message: The default editor

Re: xfburn fails with 'Undefined symbol __malloc_lock'

2009-06-25 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 25 June 2009 14:55:37 Markus Hoenicka wrote: I've upgraded my laptop from 6.4 to 7.2-RELEASE. Essentially everything went fine, except that for some reason xfburn no longer works. If I install a package using portupgrade -f -PP -PP will fail if for some reason the package is not

Which latex should I install

2009-06-25 Thread af300wsm
Hi, Just today I found the marvel of LaTeX while looking over a quick how-to for LaTeX. I was using a Linux system at work and would like to install it on my FreeBSD system at home since I've been looking for something like this for exchanging math questions I have with a friend who's

Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi,

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 26 June 2009 am 10:58:08 Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:33:56 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 26 June 2009 am 10:02:30 Polytropon wrote: Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany big brother is watching me. Yes, Dr. Schäuble does so. :-) yeah, he

Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:38:00 +, af300...@gmail.com wrote: for LaTeX. I was using a Linux system at work and would like to install it on my FreeBSD system at home since I've been looking for something like this for exchanging math questions I have with a friend who's helping me

Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi,

2009-06-25 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:03:21 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: What kind of editor do you need for rescue? Just edit one or two lines in some config file to allow the full system to start again. Rescue does not need an editor programmers are used to edit their source

Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi,

2009-06-25 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Polytroponfree...@edvax.de wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:03:21 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: What kind of editor do you need for rescue? Just edit one or two lines in some config file to allow the full system to start again. Rescue does

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:50:31AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On 26 June 2009 am 09:06:49 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:20:19 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 25 June 2009 pm 19:13:14 Konrad Heuer wrote: Maybe you're right, maybe not.

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 26 June 2009 pm 12:19:32 Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:50:31AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: On 26 June 2009 am 09:06:49 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:20:19 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 25 June 2009 pm 19:13:14 Konrad

Re: Which latex should I install

2009-06-25 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, Just today I found the marvel of LaTeX while looking over a quick how-to for LaTeX. Congratulation brother, you've seen the light :)) Now for you technical questions, Polytropon has replied. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:09:56PM -0400, John L. Templer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: ed is an interactive program, and it has always been considered as such, at least since BSD 4.2. Way back then there were three main editors, ex,

Re: The question of moving vi to /bin

2009-06-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:31:37PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On 26 June 2009 pm 12:19:32 Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 09:50:31AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: On 26 June 2009 am 09:06:49 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:20:19 +0800, Erich