Re: are there any notebooks with mouse-sticks?
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 05:27:12PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Gary Kline wrote: Aloha, I dont use the keypad at all. Keys and Mouse only. The HP Mini touchpad is centered below the keyboard, but the keyboard had regular sized keys which is good. I think if you have a wireless mouse on any of them you could cover the touchpad with something like card stock or plastic so the pressure or proximity of a hand would not set it off. It is really bad that you cant turn off the feature that causes the false clicks etc. well, i'd be willing to cut the wire to the touchpad--or have somebody do it. thing is, getting the schematics might just about be impossible... . Have fun... yup; life is a bowl of yuks, right? :-) ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: VirtualBox not opening... from 7.2 STABLE, (GUI KDE 3.5)
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:10:11 +, Jeronimo Calvo jeronimocal...@googlemail.com wrote: But I am getting following error when launched from the terminal: # VirtualBox No protocol specified Failed to open the X11 display! Of course. You are trying to write to the X display as root, but the display belongs to !root (non-root user, i. e. you). There's a quick, but very unelegant way to solve this problem: # setenv DISPLAY :0.0 # VirtualBox The program should then run. If your root shell is a different one than the standard C shell, have a look at its manpage about how to modify environment variables. You need DISPLAY to point at the local device, which is :0.0 in this case. There are better ways, such as using xauth. When used the Icon created on SystemVirtualBox (Using KDE 3.5) [...] Seems to open for few secs... and suddenly disappears... Maybe it has to be run as root? In general, it's not a good idea to run X applications as root. Any ideas? I can only provide some quite generic advices, because I never used VirtualBox. :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: are there any notebooks with mouse-sticks?
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:08:36 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: I'm looking for a small computer, 7-10 screen that has a ThinkPad-like stick to act as the mouse. This stick is called a TrackPoint, as far as I remember. It has been common in portable computers built by IB and Toshiba. Pref'ly, no touch-pad. Sadly, you will find mostly that (crap) in modern devices... The ASUS and just about every other notebook-size device has this kind of scratch-n-sniff pad; [...] Nice name. Other names: Fingerprint sensor and coffee cup warmer. :-) Any clues? Look for IBM / Lenovo, maybe they still employ this fantastic and easy to use pointing device. Allthough it would completely make sense to use a Trackpoint for netbook class computers (litte real estate consumption, minimal moving from hand in typing position to hand in pointing position), it seems that the worst solution always prevails. I haven't seen Trackpoints on modern stuff yet, and I'm quite about thinking that it doesn't exist anymore. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DVD-R not recording .iso
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 22:33:27 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org wrote: On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, on FreeBSD 8 Current I have installed growisofs. I want to burn a DVD R of /path/7.2-RELEASE-p1-i386-disc1.iso . #growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=/path/7.2-RELEASE-p1-i386-disc1.iso . Got this from FreeBSD handbook. Get no such file or directory error. Whats wrong with the syntax? Nothing is wrong with the syntax, although your command above says the ISO file is in a directory called /path. Does the directory exist? Is the ISO in that directory? Permissions OK on everything? Does /dev/cd0 point to your burner? And as Adam said, make sure you have atapicam loaded. The nampage of growisofs lists /dev/dvd in its EXAMPLES section. That's why I'm using linkcd0 dvd in /etc/devfs.conf, so you can easily use the examples for your own command purposes. Note that for accessing the ATAPICAM facility, it may be neccessary to have at least +w for group (operator) for the /dev/cd and the /dev/pass device the DVD writer is refered by. Use the camcontrol command to check: % camcontrol devlist HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H58N 1.01 at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass1) % ll /dev/cd0 /dev/pass1 crw-rw-r-- 1 root operator0, 116 Sep 10 10:10 /dev/cd0 crw-rw 1 root operator0, 115 Sep 10 10:10 /dev/pass1 % ll /dev/dvd lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel3 Sep 10 10:10 /dev/dvd@ - cd0 Is this the correct way to copy an .iso onto a DVD-R for installs? It burns the ISO to the disk as a premastered disk, which is what you want in this situation. If you wanted to just copy the ISO as a file, you'd replace the = sign with a space. In the last case you mentioned, growisofs would create an ISO-9660 file systen on the DVD which then contains one .iso file. That's possible, but won't create the result the OP wanted, I think. Or can I just use burncd like somebody on the BSD forum said they did? I have no idea what somebody on the BSD forum said :^) The burncd command usually refers to burning CDs, not DVDs, allthough it may be possible that it can be used for DVDs, too. But I'm not familiar with it anymore, because I use growisofs for DVDs and cdrecord / cdrdao for CDs; both of them use the ATAPICAM facility. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
device nodes in usb2 stack
i was wondering why some device nodes appear as regular files under /dev (like
ulpt or da e.g.) and some don't?
if i attach my usb dongle device i get this dmesg output:
ugen1.2: vendor 0x0a12 at usbus1
ubt0: vendor 0x0a12 product 0x0001, class 224/1, rev 2.00/15.93, addr 2 on
usbus1
but no device node gets created under /dev. however the following lines i have
in my /etc/devd.conf work just as expected:
# When a USB Bluetooth dongle appears activate it
attach 100 {
device-name ubt[0-9]+;
action /etc/rc.d/bluetooth quietstart $device-name;
action /usr/local/bin/obexapp -r /var/spool/obex -s -C1;
};
detach 100 {
device-name ubt[0-9]+;
action /etc/rc.d/bluetooth quietstop $device-name;
action /usr/bin/killall obexapp;
};
the device works perfectly, but i'm still wondering why no device node gets
created in /dev. i always thought one of the main unix philosophies was:
everything is a file!.
cheers.
alex
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Re: Correct way to configure an IP range for firewall
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Seamanm.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Maxim Khitrov wrote: Am I correct in assuming that I just need to add four ifconfig_vr0_alias[0-3] lines to rc.conf? What happens if in the future we get a much bigger IP block, is there a more efficient way of accomplishing the same thing? I don't actually want the firewall to consider itself the final destination for any of the additional IPs, it just needs to pass them to pf for nat and filtering. Assuming your assigned network is 192.0.2.24/29: ipv4_addrs_vr0=192.0.2.25-30 See rc.conf(5) for details. Cheers, Matthew Thanks! I looked through /etc/defaults/rc.conf and somehow missed ipv4_addrs. So if I understand the man page correctly, a single ipv4_addrs_vr0=x.x.x.9-13/29 line can replace both the aliases and the one ifconfig_vr0 line. Is that correct? I'm not certain because the man page states that an ifconfig_interface variable is also assumed to exist for each value of interface, but everything seems to be working fine without it. - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
About DHCP
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Re: About DHCP
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Re: VirtualBox not opening... from 7.2 STABLE, (GUI KDE 3.5)
Great!! I will try running the app as a regular user, as I did add myself on the virtualbox group... Should be alright from there... I'll let u know as soon as i finish my portupgrade -a (thats taking year and a half) lol Thanks!!! 2009/9/10 Polytropon free...@edvax.de: On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:10:11 +, Jeronimo Calvo jeronimocal...@googlemail.com wrote: But I am getting following error when launched from the terminal: # VirtualBox No protocol specified Failed to open the X11 display! Of course. You are trying to write to the X display as root, but the display belongs to !root (non-root user, i. e. you). There's a quick, but very unelegant way to solve this problem: # setenv DISPLAY :0.0 # VirtualBox The program should then run. If your root shell is a different one than the standard C shell, have a look at its manpage about how to modify environment variables. You need DISPLAY to point at the local device, which is :0.0 in this case. There are better ways, such as using xauth. When used the Icon created on SystemVirtualBox (Using KDE 3.5) [...] Seems to open for few secs... and suddenly disappears... Maybe it has to be run as root? In general, it's not a good idea to run X applications as root. Any ideas? I can only provide some quite generic advices, because I never used VirtualBox. :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: are there any notebooks with mouse-sticks?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:29:25AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:08:36 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: I'm looking for a small computer, 7-10 screen that has a ThinkPad-like stick to act as the mouse. This stick is called a TrackPoint, as far as I remember. It has been common in portable computers built by IB and Toshiba. I assume that IB was meant to be IBM. Lenovo bought IBM's PC division a few years ago, and now produces ThinkPads -- which come with trackpoints. Pref'ly, no touch-pad. Sadly, you will find mostly that (crap) in modern devices... I just turn off the touchpad in my ThinkPad's BIOS/CMOS settings. That's pretty much the *first* thing I do with a new ThinkPad, before I even install a halfway decent operating system on it. I have a tendency to accidentaly move the mouse around while typing, otherwise. The ASUS and just about every other notebook-size device has this kind of scratch-n-sniff pad; [...] Nice name. Other names: Fingerprint sensor and coffee cup warmer. :-) Yeah . . . how warm the touchpad gets is a pretty good heuristic measure of how hot the laptop is running, at least on my ThinkPad. Any clues? Look for IBM / Lenovo, maybe they still employ this fantastic and easy to use pointing device. Allthough it would completely make sense to use a Trackpoint for netbook class computers (litte real estate consumption, minimal moving from hand in typing position to hand in pointing position), it seems that the worst solution always prevails. I haven't seen Trackpoints on modern stuff yet, and I'm quite about thinking that it doesn't exist anymore. Unfortunately, the OP was asking about netbook-sized computers, and last I checked the only netbooks offered by Lenovo are IdeaPads -- which are exactly like ThinkPads, except the construction is a little cheaper and the pointing device is always a touchpad. Otherwise, however, I second the motion: ThinkPads are generally held to a higher standard of quality than the rest of the laptops in the PC world, tend to be well-supported by open source operating systems, and come with trackpoints. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this, immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after you leave will resign pgp0wXd8Gldnv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Correct way to configure an IP range for firewall
Maxim Khitrov wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Matthew
Seamanm.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:
Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Am I correct in assuming that I just need to add four
ifconfig_vr0_alias[0-3] lines to rc.conf? What happens if in the
future we get a much bigger IP block, is there a more efficient way of
accomplishing the same thing? I don't actually want the firewall to
consider itself the final destination for any of the additional IPs,
it just needs to pass them to pf for nat and filtering.
Assuming your assigned network is 192.0.2.24/29:
ipv4_addrs_vr0=192.0.2.25-30
See rc.conf(5) for details.
Cheers,
Matthew
Thanks! I looked through /etc/defaults/rc.conf and somehow missed
ipv4_addrs. So if I understand the man page correctly, a single
ipv4_addrs_vr0=x.x.x.9-13/29 line can replace both the aliases and
the one ifconfig_vr0 line. Is that correct? I'm not certain because
the man page states that an ifconfig_interface variable is also
assumed to exist for each value of interface, but everything seems to
be working fine without it.
Correct. However, the only things you can set with ipv4_addrs_ifX are
IP numbers and netmasks. If you want to use DHCP or WPA or to fix the
port to a particular duplex setting or to toggle various other controller
specific settings, then the ifconfig_ifX{,_aliasY} variables are your
friends.
You can combine both variable forms for configuring the same interface,
although this works best if you do all alias IP setup using ipv4_addrs_ifX
and just use ifconfig_ifX to set general properties on the interface.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Just in case there are any netbook manufacturers listening in, or employees of such manufacturers: What I'd really like to see is a netbook with a regular size screen. I've been shopping around some, and have so far been unable to find what I desire. What I mean by that is that I want a notebook with a low-power, inexpensive processor and modest memory. That will work fine if one runs an operating system such as FreeBSD. But I want at least a fourteen inch screen, preferably fifteen inch. The best advice anyone has been able to give me is to buy a budget laptop, or an older model, perhaps used. The older Apple PowerPC laptops are the closest to what I want. What I want to do with this big netbook is to troll community websites while hanging out at cafes, as well as working on my own websites, which are predominantly text - lots of essays and articles. I used to have a twelve inch Apple iBook, and it did work for me, but I now vastly prefer my fifteen inch MacBook Pro. The problem with the MacBook Pro is that it is a very expensive unit, it is the main source of my livelihood, and I fear it being damaged or stolen if I use it to troll all those community websites using the WiFi at Starbucks. So what I want is a second notebook just for cafe use, so I can leave my MacBook Pro at home. This big netbook needs to be inexpensive enough that it wouldn't be that big a deal if it were stolen, or seriously damaged. Just viewing web pages or writing in a text editor shouldn't require a lot of CPU power or memory. It wouldn't need CD/DVD or floppy drives. It wouldn't need Bluetooth, just 802.11 networking. It wouldn't need a webcam built into the lid. It wouldn't need a very big hard drive. Because the electronics would be low-power, it wouldn't need a fan. An Atom or ARM processor would be just fine for such a unit. If it were running FreeBSD or Linux, I expect that 512 MB would be *far* more than enough memory. I'm pretty sure that if someone were to actually produce such a big netbook, there would be lots more potential customers than just myself. I have actually considered purchasing one of the netbooks of today, but after looking them over, I have to say that their tiny screens would be very disruptive to my writing Muse. Thank You All For Humouring Me On This. Mike -- Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
DVD drive not detected
Hello, I am currently using 8.0-BETA4 amd64 and I noticed yesterday that my PC's internal DVD reader/writer is not detected at boot time. I'm not sure whether or not this was the case with BETA3 since I don't use the drive all that often. It was certainly working ok with 7.2-STABLE though. I have copied and pasted the messages from dmesg.boot below, in case that is of help in diagnosing the problem. If I remember correctly, it used to appear as /dev/acd0. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Tony dmesg.boot -- Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.0-BETA4 #11: Wed Sep 9 10:55:38 BST 2009 r...@elena.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ELENA Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (3000.00-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x1067a Stepping = 10 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x408e3fdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE AMD Features=0x2800SYSCALL,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 4112650240 (3922 MB) ACPI APIC Table: 071508 APIC1340 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: 071508 RSDT1340 on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of fee0, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 10, cff0 (3) failed Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.0 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.1 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.2 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.3 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.4 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.5 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.6 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 2.0 (no driver attached) isab0: PCI-ISA bridge port 0x4f00-0x4fff at device 3.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 3.1 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 3.2 (no driver attached) pci0: processor at device 3.3 (no driver attached) pci0: memory, RAM at device 3.4 (no driver attached) ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xf9f7f000-0xf9f7 irq 22 at device 4.0 on pci0 ohci0: [ITHREAD] usbus0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci0 ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xf9f7ec00-0xf9f7ecff irq 23 at device 4.1 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus1: EHCI version 1.0 usbus1: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0 atapci0: nVidia nForce MCP73 UDMA133 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 8.0 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] hdac0: NVidia MCP73 High Definition Audio Controller mem 0xf9f78000-0xf9f7bfff irq 20 at device 9.0 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090624_0136 hdac0: [ITHREAD] pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 10.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 11.0 on pci0 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfd00-0xfdff,0xd000-0xdfff,0xfa00-0xfbff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 12.0 on pci0 pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3 pcib4: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 13.0 on pci0 pci4: ACPI PCI bus on pcib4 atapci1: nVidia nForce MCP73 SATA300 controller port 0xd480-0xd487,0xd400-0xd403,0xd080-0xd087,0xd000-0xd003,0xcc00-0xcc0f mem 0xf9f7c000-0xf9f7dfff irq 21 at device 14.0 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: AHCI v1.10 controller with 4 3Gbps ports, PM supported ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: ATA channel 2 on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: ATA channel 3 on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] nfe0: NVIDIA nForce MCP73 Networking Adapter port 0xc880-0xc887 mem 0xf9f77000-0xf9f77fff,0xf9f7e800-0xf9f7e8ff,0xf9f7e400-0xf9f7e40f irq 22 at device 15.0 on pci0 miibus0: MII bus on nfe0 rlphy0: RTL8201L 10/100 media interface PHY 1 on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto nfe0: Ethernet address: 00:24:21:1d:e3:e3 nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER]
Re: What I'd Like To See In A Netbook
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:54:50AM -0700, Michael David Crawford wrote: Just in case there are any netbook manufacturers listening in, or employees of such manufacturers: What I'd really like to see is a netbook with a regular size screen. I've been shopping around some, and have so far been unable to find what I desire. What I mean by that is that I want a notebook with a low-power, inexpensive processor and modest memory. That will work fine if one runs an operating system such as FreeBSD. But I want at least a fourteen inch screen, preferably fifteen inch. That ain't a netbook. That is a fullsize laptop. jerry The best advice anyone has been able to give me is to buy a budget laptop, or an older model, perhaps used. The older Apple PowerPC laptops are the closest to what I want. What I want to do with this big netbook is to troll community websites while hanging out at cafes, as well as working on my own websites, which are predominantly text - lots of essays and articles. I used to have a twelve inch Apple iBook, and it did work for me, but I now vastly prefer my fifteen inch MacBook Pro. The problem with the MacBook Pro is that it is a very expensive unit, it is the main source of my livelihood, and I fear it being damaged or stolen if I use it to troll all those community websites using the WiFi at Starbucks. So what I want is a second notebook just for cafe use, so I can leave my MacBook Pro at home. This big netbook needs to be inexpensive enough that it wouldn't be that big a deal if it were stolen, or seriously damaged. Just viewing web pages or writing in a text editor shouldn't require a lot of CPU power or memory. It wouldn't need CD/DVD or floppy drives. It wouldn't need Bluetooth, just 802.11 networking. It wouldn't need a webcam built into the lid. It wouldn't need a very big hard drive. Because the electronics would be low-power, it wouldn't need a fan. An Atom or ARM processor would be just fine for such a unit. If it were running FreeBSD or Linux, I expect that 512 MB would be *far* more than enough memory. I'm pretty sure that if someone were to actually produce such a big netbook, there would be lots more potential customers than just myself. I have actually considered purchasing one of the netbooks of today, but after looking them over, I have to say that their tiny screens would be very disruptive to my writing Muse. Thank You All For Humouring Me On This. Mike -- Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What I'd Like To See In A Netbook
Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com writes: Just in case there are any netbook manufacturers listening in, or employees of such manufacturers: What I'd really like to see is a netbook with a regular size screen. I've been shopping around some, and have so far been unable to find what I desire. What I mean by that is that I want a notebook with a low-power, inexpensive processor and modest memory. That will work fine if one runs an operating system such as FreeBSD. But I want at least a fourteen inch screen, preferably fifteen inch. You're not likely to see anything like that until something new happens in display technology. The screen, small as it is, is already most of the parts cost of those netbook units, so putting a big screen on one would make it as expensive as a low-end real notebook. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Upgrading 6.0 to 6.x... without /var
I have a 6.0 installation without a /var slice. Instead I have a soft link of /usr/var to a /var@ file. Now I am attempting an upgrade to 6.4 and getting an error condition. I am using Disk 1 of the 6.4 distro Upgrade [Upgrade an existing system] All [All system sources. binaries and X-Windows System] added Ports and mount points. System goes through its fsck-ffs -y routines on /mnt/dev/* devices. = Error Messages [i] Error mounting /mnt/dev ad0as1e on /mnt/usr : Input/output error [ii] Error mounting /mnt/dev ad0as1f on /mnt/usr : Input/output error Then tries to a form a holographic shell asks for directory to save current /etc?, prompts with /var/tmp/etc, I changed it to /usr/tmp2/etc = Unable to backup your /etc int /usr/tmp2/etc. Do you want to continue anyway? Opt'd out w/ a No! selection. Could this problem result from the absence of a /var partition ? Is there an alt. Strategy for a 6.0 =6.4 upgrade, while maintaining all the previous custom and configuration files? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Upgrading-6.0-to-6.x...-without--var-tp25391151p25391151.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: are there any notebooks with mouse-sticks?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:29:25AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:08:36 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: I'm looking for a small computer, 7-10 screen that has a ThinkPad-like stick to act as the mouse. This stick is called a TrackPoint, as far as I remember. It has been common in portable computers built by IB and Toshiba. i think you're right. ibm came up with some advertising name that fit. better than clit , :-), lol, . LOL. yes, i do laugh at my own jokes now and then. Pref'ly, no touch-pad. Sadly, you will find mostly that (crap) in modern devices... it's on my wife's new dell laptop. last time i tried to use it i couldn't get the hang of it. at any rate, it is in the way of where my hand would be. ---this, fwiw, is why i bought the last thinkpad, 3.0GHZ with just the trackpoint and the three horizontal bars. those work. well, for me. ... The ASUS and just about every other notebook-size device has this kind of scratch-n-sniff pad; [...] Nice name. Other names: Fingerprint sensor and coffee cup warmer. :-) :-) damn small coffee cup, eh? Any clues? Look for IBM / Lenovo, maybe they still employ this fantastic and easy to use pointing device. Allthough it would completely make sense to use a Trackpoint for netbook class computers (litte real estate consumption, minimal moving from hand in typing position to hand in pointing position), it seems that the worst solution always prevails. I haven't seen Trackpoints on modern stuff yet, and I'm quite about thinking that it doesn't exist anymore. i thought i saw the red bottom [top] of the trackpoint in the newer thinkpads. the chinese probably went with the deafault [t'pad]. but the pointer dev would take up the least realestate. and especially on the notebook-sized laptops that would seem significant. oh::: how about the $100 laptops for kids? what was it? one-laptop-per-child? did ``the market'' force them to go belly-up? i'll google around and see if they got skrewd. gary -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: are there any notebooks with mouse-sticks?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:51:29AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:29:25AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:08:36 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: I'm looking for a small computer, 7-10 screen that has a ThinkPad-like stick to act as the mouse. This stick is called a TrackPoint, as far as I remember. It has been common in portable computers built by IB and Toshiba. I assume that IB was meant to be IBM. Lenovo bought IBM's PC division a few years ago, and now produces ThinkPads -- which come with trackpoints. super! Pref'ly, no touch-pad. Sadly, you will find mostly that (crap) in modern devices... I just turn off the touchpad in my ThinkPad's BIOS/CMOS settings. That's pretty much the *first* thing I do with a new ThinkPad, before I even install a halfway decent operating system on it. I have a tendency to accidentaly move the mouse around while typing, otherwise. BIOS. That's what i couldn't remember. so you still *can* toggle the laptop pointer on/off. in my long-defunt 600E i could plug in an external mouse and off the t'point. good to know you can turn off the pad and still use the other pointing device. :-D The ASUS and just about every other notebook-size device has this kind of scratch-n-sniff pad; [...] Nice name. Other names: Fingerprint sensor and coffee cup warmer. :-) Yeah . . . how warm the touchpad gets is a pretty good heuristic measure of how hot the laptop is running, at least on my ThinkPad. Any clues? Look for IBM / Lenovo, maybe they still employ this fantastic and easy to use pointing device. Allthough it would completely make sense to use a Trackpoint for netbook class computers (litte real estate consumption, minimal moving from hand in typing position to hand in pointing position), it seems that the worst solution always prevails. I haven't seen Trackpoints on modern stuff yet, and I'm quite about thinking that it doesn't exist anymore. Unfortunately, the OP was asking about netbook-sized computers, and last I checked the only netbooks offered by Lenovo are IdeaPads -- which are exactly like ThinkPads, except the construction is a little cheaper and the pointing device is always a touchpad. hm. if i can go into the bios of this ideapad and disable the t'pad; then use a wireless mouse, that would work. my plans are to build a text-to-speech computer. kde has a bunch of tools that are very useable. vi has -- or used to have -- the ability to store abbrv that would expand as typed. you type tht; vi outputs that gary Otherwise, however, I second the motion: ThinkPads are generally held to a higher standard of quality than the rest of the laptops in the PC world, tend to be well-supported by open source operating systems, and come with trackpoints. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this, immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after you leave will resign -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem installing FreeBSD 7.1 RELEASE.
Hi. I'm having trouble installing 7.1 release. The details of my system : Motherboard : EliteGroup (A740GM-M) RAM : 3G DDR2 800Mhz CPU : AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core processor Disk :WD 500GB SATA DVD : Samsung DVD/Writer Super Write Master Primary OS : Windows XP sp3 I'll list the problems and the attempts I've tried to get around them. Problem #1 The CD/DVD drive can not be mounted by sysinstall. === I have a SAMSUNG DVD writer drive attached to my ATAPI IDE interface. I have a WD 500GB SATA Drive attached to my SATA interface. The system boots off the CD, runs sysintall. I'm able to allocate storage for the FREEBSD partition and then create the individual slices for the default file systems. (/, swap, /var, /tmp, /usr) When choosing the instalation media as CD/DVD, an error message saying that the CD/DVD drive was not found pops up. I've tried every option on the boot program, they all fail to load the CD/DVD drive and can't proceed with the instalation. I've tried changing the DVD drive to a nother CD/RW drive attached to the same ATAPI controller, the problem persist as before, no change. This leads me to my next attempt to install the system from a disk PARTITION. Problem #2 Unable to mount the disk partiton at the time of install. = Ok, I've created a new extended partition with Partition Magic to hold the contents of the install CD. This new partition sits third on the list as follows : a) NTFS partition with my XP installation b) FreeBSD partiton where the system will be installed. c) The new FAT partiton where the contents of the FREEBSD cd is copied into the directory named E:\FREEBSD. I've copied the entire CD to this new partition. Back to sysinstall, when choosing the new instalation media Install from DOS partition I get an error message saying Unable to mount /dev/ad8s3 to /dist, and the problem of not finding the DOS partition where the contents of the FREEBSD cd were copied to continues, keeping me from progressing with the install. The next attempt was trying to install from a filesystem. When selecting this option, a dialog from sysinstall pops up asking to list the complete path name of where the FREEBSD files were copied to this disk partition. I enter /dev/ad8s3:/FREEBSD and an error message saying that it can not find the disk partition comes up keeping me from progressing with the install. I've looked at the FreeBSD handbook online, but could not find further details about installing the system from a disk partition. Any pointers as to what proper measures to take to try to get past this problem. ? Can someone suggest some other way to get the system installed. ? Oh, I've also tried PC-BSD, but that stops right away with an error message of Error loading image since it can not find the CD/DVD drive again. I'll appreciated if you can provide further details of how to proceed, point me to the direction where I can get more details. Your response is greatly appreciated. --Rom a_rom...@hotmail.com _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: are there any notebooks with mouse-sticks?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:07:04PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:51:29AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: I just turn off the touchpad in my ThinkPad's BIOS/CMOS settings. That's pretty much the *first* thing I do with a new ThinkPad, before I even install a halfway decent operating system on it. I have a tendency to accidentaly move the mouse around while typing, otherwise. BIOS. That's what i couldn't remember. so you still *can* toggle the laptop pointer on/off. in my long-defunt 600E i could plug in an external mouse and off the t'point. good to know you can turn off the pad and still use the other pointing device. Yes, you can -- otherwise, I'd be highly irritated with laptops in general. Unfortunately, the OP was asking about netbook-sized computers, and last I checked the only netbooks offered by Lenovo are IdeaPads -- which are exactly like ThinkPads, except the construction is a little cheaper and the pointing device is always a touchpad. hm. if i can go into the bios of this ideapad and disable the t'pad; then use a wireless mouse, that would work. my plans are to build a text-to-speech computer. kde has a bunch of tools that are very useable. vi has -- or used to have -- the ability to store abbrv that would expand as typed. you type tht; vi outputs that I hope that works out for you, then. It wouldn't really work for me, since I want a trackpoint -- which is why I haven't gotten a Lenovo laptop with an NVIDIA adapter (since they tend to only put those in IdeaPads, and not ThinkPads, which are left with ATI graphics adapters instead). . . . and yes, you can still do that with vi (and Vim). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this, immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after you leave will resign pgpj1JOSSNeRh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem installing FreeBSD 7.1 RELEASE.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Rom Albuquerque a_rom...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi. I'm having trouble installing 7.1 release. The details of my system : Motherboard : EliteGroup (A740GM-M) RAM : 3G DDR2 800Mhz CPU : AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core processor Disk :WD 500GB SATA DVD : Samsung DVD/Writer Super Write Master Primary OS : Windows XP sp3 I'll list the problems and the attempts I've tried to get around them. Problem #1 The CD/DVD drive can not be mounted by sysinstall. === I have a SAMSUNG DVD writer drive attached to my ATAPI IDE interface. I have a WD 500GB SATA Drive attached to my SATA interface. The system boots off the CD, runs sysintall. I'm able to allocate storage for the FREEBSD partition and then create the individual slices for the default file systems. (/, swap, /var, /tmp, /usr) When choosing the instalation media as CD/DVD, an error message saying that the CD/DVD drive was not found pops up. I've tried every option on the boot program, they all fail to load the CD/DVD drive and can't proceed with the instalation. I've tried changing the DVD drive to a nother CD/RW drive attached to the same ATAPI controller, the problem persist as before, no change. This leads me to my next attempt to install the system from a disk PARTITION. Problem #2 Unable to mount the disk partiton at the time of install. = Ok, I've created a new extended partition with Partition Magic to hold the contents of the install CD. This new partition sits third on the list as follows : a) NTFS partition with my XP installation b) FreeBSD partiton where the system will be installed. c) The new FAT partiton where the contents of the FREEBSD cd is copied into the directory named E:\FREEBSD. I've copied the entire CD to this new partition. Back to sysinstall, when choosing the new instalation media Install from DOS partition I get an error message saying Unable to mount /dev/ad8s3 to /dist, and the problem of not finding the DOS partition where the contents of the FREEBSD cd were copied to continues, keeping me from progressing with the install. The next attempt was trying to install from a filesystem. When selecting this option, a dialog from sysinstall pops up asking to list the complete path name of where the FREEBSD files were copied to this disk partition. I enter /dev/ad8s3:/FREEBSD and an error message saying that it can not find the disk partition comes up keeping me from progressing with the install. I've looked at the FreeBSD handbook online, but could not find further details about installing the system from a disk partition. Any pointers as to what proper measures to take to try to get past this problem. ? Can someone suggest some other way to get the system installed. ? Oh, I've also tried PC-BSD, but that stops right away with an error message of Error loading image since it can not find the CD/DVD drive again. I'll appreciated if you can provide further details of how to proceed, point me to the direction where I can get more details. Your response is greatly appreciated. --Rom a_rom...@hotmail.com _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.orghttp://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009___%0afreebsd-questi...@freebsd.orgmailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org When the installation CD is booting, can you see if your CDROM drive is being detected as acd0? Another option might be to try installing from USB. Go into the options menu, enable debugging, and try the install again - either from the CDROM drive or the DOS partition. Switch to the next terminal over, and you should see some more verbose output as to what's going wrong. -- randi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
reducing size of apache instances
My Apache 2.2 instances are running about 18 Meg each. I've been thinking about doing something to trim these down, and I think tomorrow is the day to take action. They are getting out of hand. I've done a bit of research on this. I think the way to get started is to eliminate unused modules. Problem is, I know which ones I need, since I purposefully added them. I *don't* know which ones I don't need, if you see what I mean, since I inherited them from the default configuration. I assume that some are critical to the basic operation of Apache. I am hoping I can google a list of these tomorrow. Obviously these I'll have to live with. But what about the set that is left after I remove the ones the system needs, and the ones I need? How do I know which ones I can safely turn off? All I can think of is a trial and error process (i.e., turn them off one by one and see if anything breaks.) Is there a better way? -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
linux-pango won't install
For some reason, the x11-toolkits/linux-pango port won't install on my FreeBSD 7.2 system. When I try, I get the following: [Gathering depends for x11-toolkits/linux-pango .. done] --- Installing 'linux-pango-1.10.2_3' from a port (x11-toolkits/linux-pango) --- Building '/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-pango' === Cleaning for linux-pango-1.10.2_3 ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall20090910-66072-gzj01-0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! x11-toolkits/linux-pango (unknown build error) How can I fix this? My Google and FreeBSD documentation searches have proven fruitless. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: SUVs are gross because they're the solution to a gross problem. (How to make minivans look more masculine.) pgp6h7wtgp2DS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: reducing size of apache instances
On Sep 10, 2009, at 7:58 PM, John Almberg wrote: My Apache 2.2 instances are running about 18 Meg each. I've been thinking about doing something to trim these down, and I think tomorrow is the day to take action. They are getting out of hand. [ ... ] But what about the set that is left after I remove the ones the system needs, and the ones I need? How do I know which ones I can safely turn off? All I can think of is a trial and error process (i.e., turn them off one by one and see if anything breaks.) Is there a better way? Yes. Figure out which modules you actually need, and only enable those. What modules you are using should be reasonably clear from the access and error logs-- you should be able to see which URLs you are serving, and hence which modules were involved. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reducing size of apache instances
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:58 PM, John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: I assume that some are critical to the basic operation of Apache. I am hoping I can google a list of these tomorrow. Obviously these I'll have to live with. This is a pretty short list, and Apache won't start without them. All I can think of is a trial and error process (i.e., turn them off one by one and see if anything breaks.) Is there a better way? Other than those core modules you mentioned above, one of the most distinguishing characteristics of modules is that they define config directives that you then use. I would recommend that you walk through your configs and determine which module each and every directive comes from. To a reasonable degree of accuracy, that will give you the list of modules that are really in use. Naturally you'll find some exception(s), but this will get you very close without a lot of trial-and-error downtime. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 - weird stuff in dmesg
Any ideas??? Anyone?? Alex R wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering whether anyone could shed some light on the following messages I am seeing in dmesg: 33aarrpp:: uunnkknnoowwnn hhaarrddwwaarree aaress format (0x) ress format (0x) arp: unakrnpo:w nu nhkanrodwwna rhea raddwdarrees sa dfdorremsast f(o0rxm0a0t0 0()0 x ) arp:3 uanrkpn:o wunn khnaorwdnw ahraer dawdadrree sasd dfroersmsa tf o(r0mxat0 0(00x000)0 0 ) arp: unknown hardware address format (0xarp:0 7u0n0k)n o wn hardware address format (0x0700) aarrpp:: uunnkknnoowwnn hhaarrddwwaarree aarree ffoorrmmaatt ((00xx0077)) -- Any ideas whats with the jumbled/double letters? Is there something wrong with the machine or is it a bug in the OS? I have seen similar symptoms on SMP enabled boxes when shutting down if 2 processes call kprintf() or printf() at the same time, it results in garbled output. Should i turn a blind eye to this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
