Re: way to check an email without sending it??

2009-10-06 Thread Matthew Seaman

Gary Kline wrote:



write and say HI, Howzit hanging... or whatever.  Anyway, the sendmail 
-bv ploy
indicates that this person is still at the address i have.  no big 
deal; i was just
wondering.


Uh -- sendmail -bv doesn't do what you think it does.  It only shows you what 
your
local sendmail would do with the message as it tries to deliver it.  If it's not
for a local user, then all it says is 'send it to the SMTP server responsible'
and nothing at all about what the other machine would do with it. 


The only way to find that out is by connecting to the remote sendmail, either
by telnet or by actually sending an e-mail.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: sendmail CLIENT_OPTIONS

2009-10-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:48:09 -0500, Don Wilde dwil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, folks -

 I am setting up the sendmail on my 7.2-STABLE system, and I cannot get
 it to listen to my live server address besides the localhost.

 I've added
CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet,
 Addr=64.156.192.103, Name=MTA')dnl

 directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs),
 recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to
 sendmail.cf.

CLIENT_OPTIONS() does not set options for clients connecting *to*
Sendmail, but for Sendmail itself when it acts as a client to an other
MTA.

 Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but
 it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn.

This is often a configuration error that launches only a local Sendmail
listener.  Show us your `/etc/rc.conf' settings:

# grep -i sendmail /etc/rc.conf

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Re: sendmail CLIENT_OPTIONS

2009-10-06 Thread Oliver Fromme
Don Wilde dwil...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am setting up the sendmail on my 7.2-STABLE system, and I cannot get
  it to listen to my live server address besides the localhost.
  
  I've added
 CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet,
  Addr=64.156.192.103, Name=MTA')dnl
  
  directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs),
  recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to
  sendmail.cf.

You do not have to add anything to your .mc/.cf file.
Just be sure to have this line in /etc/rc.conf:

sendmail_enable=YES

then restart sendmail, and it will listen on all interfaces.

  Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but
  it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn.

It's better to use sockstat -l | grep sendmail.
It lists user, command and PID along with the IP address
(* if all addresses) and port number, so you can easily
match it with output from ps or top, using the PID number.

If sendmail is listening only on localhost, it usually
means that you don't have sendmail_enable=YES in rc.conf.
In that case, the default is to run sendmail only on the
localhost interface, so that local mail delivery does work
(e.g. output mailed from cron jobs).

A common error is to put an entry at the top of rc.conf,
not noticing that another entry further down the file
overrides it.  The last entry takes effect.  For example,
if you have sendmail_enable=YES at the top, but there's
sendmail_enable=NO somewhere near the end of the file,
then the latter will take effect.

grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf will tell you the truth.

After any changes, don't forget to restart sendmail:
/etc/rc.d/sendmail restart

If you're extra paranoid, first do only stop instead of
restart, then verify that no sendmail processes are
running, then perform the start.

Best regards
   Oliver

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secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün-
chen, HRB 125758,  Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart

FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr:  http://www.secnetix.de/bsd

In my experience the term transparent proxy is an oxymoron (like jumbo
shrimp).  Transparent proxies seem to vary from the distortions of a
funhouse mirror to barely translucent.  I really, really dislike them
when trying to figure out the corrective lenses needed with each of them.
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BTX Halted

2009-10-06 Thread Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu
Dear all,
I've found something strange I have never seen before. When start booting
FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 from ISO image in ESX 4.0 then error occurs. You can see
it from snapshot.

I have following.

Dell R900 with 4 CPU, 64GB RAM
ESX 4.0 installed on R900
FreeBSD 7.2 amd64

What is this mean?

Best regards,
Tseveen.
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Re: BTX Halted

2009-10-06 Thread Vilem Kebrt
I dont know how anyone else but i don't see snapshot, can u please get 
it somewhere online and provide link ?

With regards
William
Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu napsal(a):

Dear all,
I've found something strange I have never seen before. When start booting
FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 from ISO image in ESX 4.0 then error occurs. You can see
it from snapshot.

I have following.

Dell R900 with 4 CPU, 64GB RAM
ESX 4.0 installed on R900
FreeBSD 7.2 amd64

What is this mean?

Best regards,
Tseveen.




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windoz, how do i install it last

2009-10-06 Thread Henry Olyer
So I have a FreeBSD system.
Is their a way to install windoz?  Say, XP-pro?  Or whatever...
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Re: windoz, how do i install it last

2009-10-06 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi,

Am Dienstag, 06. Okt 2009, 07:05:23 -0400 schrieb Henry Olyer:
 So I have a FreeBSD system.
 Is their a way to install windoz?  Say, XP-pro?  Or whatever...

Replace or dual boot? The standard FreeBSD boot manager offers
a choice which of the slices 1-4 you want to boot from. Just
install #...@% into the first slice and FreeBSD into the second.

Bertram


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Re: sendmail CLIENT_OPTIONS

2009-10-06 Thread Don Wilde
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de wrote:
 Don Wilde dwil...@gmail.com wrote:
   I am setting up the sendmail on my 7.2-STABLE system, and I cannot get
   it to listen to my live server address besides the localhost.
  
   I've added
                              CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet,
   Addr=64.156.192.103, Name=MTA')dnl
  
   directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs),
   recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to
   sendmail.cf.

 You do not have to add anything to your .mc/.cf file.
 Just be sure to have this line in /etc/rc.conf:

 sendmail_enable=YES

 then restart sendmail, and it will listen on all interfaces.

   Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but
   it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn.

 It's better to use sockstat -l | grep sendmail.
 It lists user, command and PID along with the IP address
 (* if all addresses) and port number, so you can easily
 match it with output from ps or top, using the PID number.

 If sendmail is listening only on localhost, it usually
 means that you don't have sendmail_enable=YES in rc.conf.
 In that case, the default is to run sendmail only on the
 localhost interface, so that local mail delivery does work
 (e.g. output mailed from cron jobs).

 A common error is to put an entry at the top of rc.conf,
 not noticing that another entry further down the file
 overrides it.  The last entry takes effect.  For example,
 if you have sendmail_enable=YES at the top, but there's
 sendmail_enable=NO somewhere near the end of the file,
 then the latter will take effect.

 grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf will tell you the truth.

 After any changes, don't forget to restart sendmail:
 /etc/rc.d/sendmail restart

 If you're extra paranoid, first do only stop instead of
 restart, then verify that no sendmail processes are
 running, then perform the start.

 Best regards
   Oliver

Oliver, Gorgios, Bernt -

You all hit the nail right on the head.  I had added the
sendmail_enable line before, but in my pushing and shoving in emacs I
seem to have deleted it again. Many thanks to all of you for your
patience and support! :D
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http://www.EngineeringJobFuture.com
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Re: BTX Halted

2009-10-06 Thread Tim Judd
On 10/6/09, Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu tseveend...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 I've found something strange I have never seen before. When start booting
 FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 from ISO image in ESX 4.0 then error occurs. You can see
 it from snapshot.

 I have following.

 Dell R900 with 4 CPU, 64GB RAM
 ESX 4.0 installed on R900
 FreeBSD 7.2 amd64

 What is this mean?

 Best regards,
 Tseveen.




BTX - BooT eXtender, the process of moving from 16-bit real mode to
32-bit (or 64-bit?) protected mode.  The system was unable to do this
conversion.  Happens on buggy chipsets (in quotes because this is on
ESX).  Go back to VM properties and double, triple check everything,
go into the BIOS and disable any window-isms like PnP OS, power
management, etc.


You might have a corrupt download, check your MD5/SHA1 and redownload
if applicable.


--TJ
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Re: windoz, how do i install it last

2009-10-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I have a FreeBSD system.
 Is their a way to install windoz?  Say, XP-pro?  Or whatever...


Depending on your usage of said OS, virtualbox might be a good alternative.

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Re: windoz, how do i install it last

2009-10-06 Thread James Phillips



 Message: 30
 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:05:23 -0400
 From: Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com
 Subject: windoz, how do i install it last
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID:
     1d7089c40910060405k3ac6f53bx252ade8183f1f...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 So I have a FreeBSD system.
 Is their a way to install windoz?  Say, XP-pro? 
 Or whatever...
 

From the subject I gather you want to shrink the BSD slice, or have room, then 
install Windows.

The fact you are asking the question suggests you don't have your work backed 
up, and won't listen when told to backup your work (takes one to know one). The 
other possibility is that you want to install BSD now, but Windows later.

SNIPPED BACK-UP BOOT SECTOR SUGGESTION (decided it was more trouble than it 
was worth) 

I any case, you need a way to boot FreeBSD without the bootsector, such as the 
installation CD.

As I am not familiar with the gory details, I will refer you to Chapter 2 of 
the Handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

If you can't get the Windows Boot manager to boot FreeBSD, you will want to use 
the FreeBSD boot manager, mentioned in section: 2.6.3 Install a Boot Manager.

Regards,

James Phillips



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Re: BTX Halted

2009-10-06 Thread Benjamin Lee
On 10/06/2009 01:36 AM, Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu wrote:
 Dear all,
 I've found something strange I have never seen before. When start booting
 FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 from ISO image in ESX 4.0 then error occurs. You can see
 it from snapshot.
 
 I have following.
 
 Dell R900 with 4 CPU, 64GB RAM
 ESX 4.0 installed on R900
 FreeBSD 7.2 amd64
 
 What is this mean?

Did you create the guest with a 64-bit CPU?


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FBSD 7.2 - ports blocked but no firewall

2009-10-06 Thread Gene
Hi-
I'm running 7.2 GENERIC and installed the unrealirc port. I've started it up 
and can connect from localhost just fine. But when attempting to connect from 
the outside world (eg. from another box on the lan) I get connection refused.

I've tried both with and without ipfilter running (with appropriate rule).
Other ports are reachable including a non-standard port used for ssh.

The question: Could there be any reason that port 6667 might be blocked? 
(Unrealircd questions can be taken up elsewhere).

IHN,
Gene

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Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-06 Thread Renato Botelho
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Dmitry Marakasov amd...@amdmi3.ru wrote:
 * Mark Linimon (lini...@lonesome.com) wrote:

 The author orginally contacted us with a legal threat because we were
 not in compliance with the 28-day clause.  A long, acrimonious disucssion
 ensued.  In that discussion, the author was asked if we agree to meet
 that condition going forward, would you guarantee that this would remove
 any further legal threat? and he said yes ...

 for now.

 But that he reserved the right to change his mind later.

 *depending* on what we did or did not do in the future -- not just in
 adhering to the *existing clauses* like the significant clause or
 renamed clause -- both of which he mentioned would be part of any
 lawsuit.

 Legally indefensible?  Of course.  Would that prevent a lawsuit being
 filed?  No.  Anyone can sue anyone for anything.

 Well, if you insist I of course won't commit it. But the whole thing
 disappoints me greately, cause I was pretty sure at least FreeBSD
 developers won't be affected by a mere FUD. Do you honestly think
 the probability of Tuomo suing us is higher of, say, me suing, well,
 us?  And that anything will change by us not providing a port we
 have absolutely totally utterly 100% right to provide?  That is
 just silly.

 The port from now on is available here (removed from people.freebsd.org):
 http://mirror.amdmi3.ru/ports/ion3-20090110.port.tar

You can start a fork of it, change its name, its license, and keep it as
a separate project... people will use the same software with another
name.

Everybody will be happy and we won't have a Tuomo's software inside
ports collection again.

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Re: FBSD 7.2 - ports blocked but no firewall

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Cowart
Gene wrote:
 I'm running 7.2 GENERIC and installed the unrealirc port. I've started it up 
 and can connect from localhost just fine. But when attempting to connect from 
 the outside world (eg. from another box on the lan) I get connection refused.
 
 I've tried both with and without ipfilter running (with appropriate rule).
 Other ports are reachable including a non-standard port used for ssh.
 
 The question: Could there be any reason that port 6667 might be blocked? 
 (Unrealircd questions can be taken up elsewhere).

It's possible you've configured Unrealircd to only listen on localhost
and not on *.

Look for something like:

| listen *:6697
| {
| ...
| };

And make sure it's * and not 127.0.0.1.

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FreeBSD Projects

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Stankevitz


Hello,

I recently stumbled across The FreeBSD GNOME Project webpage which is 
filled with detail and great instructions.  It is located at 
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html


Q1: Where can I find the FreeBSD page that links to The FreeBSD GNOME 
project webpage?


Q2: Where can I find a list of other such projects?

Thanks,

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD Projects

2009-10-06 Thread Michael Powell
Chris Stankevitz wrote:

 
 Hello,
 
 I recently stumbled across The FreeBSD GNOME Project webpage which is
 filled with detail and great instructions.  It is located at
 http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html
 
 Q1: Where can I find the FreeBSD page that links to The FreeBSD GNOME
 project webpage?
 
 Q2: Where can I find a list of other such projects?
 

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/projects.html

Some content may be old, outdated, or stale.

-Mike



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Re: FreeBSD Projects

2009-10-06 Thread Maks Verver

Hi Chris,

I recently stumbled across The FreeBSD GNOME Project webpage which is 
filled with detail and great instructions.  It is located at 
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html


Q1: Where can I find the FreeBSD page that links to The FreeBSD GNOME 
project webpage?


Q2: Where can I find a list of other such projects?


For both questions, I think this is the page you're looking for:
 http://www.freebsd.org/projects/


Kind regards,
Maks Verver.

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Re: way to check an email without sending it??

2009-10-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 07:13:30AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 
 
  write and say HI, Howzit hanging... or whatever.  Anyway, the 
  sendmail -bv ploy
  indicates that this person is still at the address i have.  no big 
  deal; i was just
  wondering.
 
 Uh -- sendmail -bv doesn't do what you think it does.  It only shows you 
 what your
 local sendmail would do with the message as it tries to deliver it.  If 
 it's not
 for a local user, then all it says is 'send it to the SMTP server 
 responsible'
 and nothing at all about what the other machine would do with it. 
 
 The only way to find that out is by connecting to the remote sendmail, 
 either
 by telnet or by actually sending an e-mail.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew


Yes, indeed.  The only other thing is to mess with the whitepages, but 
not 
now.  The future is coming too quickly, and I'm pretty sure that we'll
all have some sort of ID tags embedded ... _somewhere_.

thanks for the clue,

gary



 
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zfs on root and zpool.cache importance

2009-10-06 Thread Michal

Hello

I'm a bit confused about zpool.cache file. I've got a configuration with 
/boot sitting on a usb drive (UFS) and everything else on internal ZFS 
hard drive. I'm booting my system off the usb drive so zpool.cache file 
is there (usb drive). Basic zfs root + ufs boot setup. Everything works 
like a charm no problems so far and I would like to keep it that way 
hence my question.


I've noticed that zpool.cache on ZFS drive is being updated from time to 
time and it is different from zpool.cache file on usb drive. Even when I 
remove zpool.cache file on hard disk then it gets recreated 
automatically and system still boots and works fine because it starts 
with zpool.cache on usb drive which is intact.
Now how important it is to keep them in sync and what I'm risking by not 
doing that? Am I stomping on a thin ice? Should I copy zpool.cache from 
hard drive to usb boot disk every day or should I leave it how it is?


I know that zpool.cache is critical to boot and it keeps some 
informations about pool configuration but don't quite understand 
implications of having it outside of the pool itself (without zfs even 
knowing about that).


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FreeBSD 7.2-stable amd64 / Gnome2

2009-10-06 Thread Roy Stuivenberg
Hello,

I have a question about my Gnome2 install.
It stopped when it was installing Alacarte.
Error was : wrong pygobject version.
After that, I restarted, and x11 came up surprisingly. 
My portstree is up to date, and googl'in I found similar problems.
Anyone know if there is a problem with FreeBSD 7.2 (amd64) and gnome2  ?

This problem didn't occur with FreeBSD 7.2 i386 iso.

Regards,

Roy Stuivenberg. 

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follow up

2009-10-06 Thread Roy Stuivenberg
ps

This is the output building gnome2 :
gnomelogalyzer said something like no problem found.


checking for ALACARTE... yes
checking for pygobject 2.15.1 installed for python
required_python_abi... not found
configure: error: required pygobject version not found
===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh;, which will diagnose
the
problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer
cannot
solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at
gn...@freebsd.org, and attach (a)
/usr/ports/deskutils/alacarte/work/alacarte-0.12.1/config.log, (b) the
output of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output.
Also,
it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed
on
your system (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any
website,
copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1)
with
the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list
(gn...@freebsd.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists
are
usually discarded by the mailing list software.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/deskutils/alacarte.
*** Error code 1


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Re: FBSD 7.2 - ports blocked but no firewall

2009-10-06 Thread Gene
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Chris Cowart wrote
 Gene wrote:
  I'm running 7.2 GENERIC and installed the unrealirc port. I've started it 
  up 
  and can connect from localhost just fine. But when attempting to connect 
  from 
  the outside world (eg. from another box on the lan) I get connection 
  refused.
  
  I've tried both with and without ipfilter running (with appropriate rule).
  Other ports are reachable including a non-standard port used for ssh.
  
  The question: Could there be any reason that port 6667 might be blocked? 
  (Unrealircd questions can be taken up elsewhere).
 
 It's possible you've configured Unrealircd to only listen on 
 localhost and not on *.
 
 Look for something like:
 
 | listen *:6697
 | {
 | ...
 | };
 
 And make sure it's * and not 127.0.0.1.
 
Checked and it's correct.

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KDE broke after portupgrade

2009-10-06 Thread Gene
Hi -
I upgraded ports and, as usual, kde4 broke. What I'd like to do is simply
remove the existing remains of kde and reinstall. BUT since kde4 is just a
metaport deinstalling doesn't seem to work. Is there another way to delete and
reinstall kde4?

Thanks,

IHN,
Gene

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Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Stankevitz


The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for 
obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.


Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but 
only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.


Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to 
obtain it?


Q2: Is this explained in the handbook?  If so, where?

Thank you,

Chris

PS: I uses sysinstall to obtain the ports collection from the CD during 
OS install

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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Chris Stankevitz wrote:

 The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for
 obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.

 Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but
 only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.

 Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to
 obtain it?

You can use csup as explained in section 4.5.1.  This will update the
Ports Collection  you installed from CD/DVD
by fetching only the required newer files

Or, you can use portsnap too like this:

First time:
portsnap fetch extract

Subsequent times:
portsnap fetch update


If you are starting with an empty Ports tree (for example you skipped
installing it from CD during sysinstall) portsnap will be faster than
csup. (Note you can start with an empty tree and csup as well)

Anytime you decide to switch from csup to portsnap, always perform an
'extract'

 Q2: Is this explained in the handbook?  If so, where?


In section 4.5 as you noticed already. Portsnap is also revisited in
chapter 24:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-portsnap.html
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Salvage files from harddrive

2009-10-06 Thread jeffry killen

Hello;
I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that
will not boot.
In single user mode I can mount  /var.

I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and
try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place.

The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with
/var.

Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I
best go about this?

system is FreeBSD v6.2

Thank you in advance for guidance, suggestions.
JK 


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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:43:56 -0700
Chris Stankevitz cstankev...@toyon.com wrote:

 
 The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for 
 obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and
 sysinstall.
 
 Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but 
 only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.
 
 Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to 
 obtain it?

I'd suggest that you don't use the tree from sysinstall, unless your
intent is not to update the tree until the next release.

If you use portsnap the tree gets overwritten with the extract, so
you might as well not bother with the on-disk version. 


If you use csup then the steps are 

1. Set the tag to match the port snapshot on the disc and run csup

2. Set the tag to . (the current tree) and run csup again

Step 1 does nothing to the tree, but if you skip it you may end with
some stale files left in your tree, which could cause serious problems.
IMO this is more trouble than it's worth unless you have a dialup
connection. 


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Re: Salvage files from harddrive

2009-10-06 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011, jeffry killen wrote:

 Hello;
 I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that
 will not boot.
 In single user mode I can mount  /var.
 
 I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and
 try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place.
 
 The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with
 /var.
 
 Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I
 best go about this?
 
 system is FreeBSD v6.2
 
 Thank you in advance for guidance, suggestions.

It shouldn't be a problem. If you stick the broken drive in a new
system it will show up as a new device to the 2nd system.

You will then manually mount the 1st system via the device node to
wherever you want. It will not auto-mount that to /var .

So, for example your 2nd system has /dev/ad4s1  as its main disk.
When you plig the 2nd disk (from the old box) it will show up as
/dev/ad5s1 or similar. YOu would then just mount the /var/ slice to
wherever you want. 

For example:
mount /dev/ad5sa6 /mnt/oldvar

or similar. Please note that your device nodes and slice numbers
will most likely be different.

Henrik
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Re: Salvage files from harddrive

2009-10-06 Thread jhell




On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:14 -0800, lists@ wrote:


On Fri, 07 Oct 2011, jeffry killen wrote:


Hello;
I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that
will not boot.
In single user mode I can mount  /var.

I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and
try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place.

The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with
/var.

Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I
best go about this?

system is FreeBSD v6.2

Thank you in advance for guidance, suggestions.


It shouldn't be a problem. If you stick the broken drive in a new
system it will show up as a new device to the 2nd system.

You will then manually mount the 1st system via the device node to
wherever you want. It will not auto-mount that to /var .

So, for example your 2nd system has /dev/ad4s1  as its main disk.
When you plig the 2nd disk (from the old box) it will show up as
/dev/ad5s1 or similar. YOu would then just mount the /var/ slice to
wherever you want.

For example:
mount /dev/ad5sa6 /mnt/oldvar

or similar. Please note that your device nodes and slice numbers
will most likely be different.

Henrik



I think (correct me if I am wrong) he is trying to describe that glabel is 
being used on both systems and that he is worried that a label of var 
that would be in /dev/ufs/var on two separate disks would be conflicting 
and which one would be mounted first as he does not wish for the disk he 
is trying to save the contents of to be mounted and be used as the var of 
the system he is placing the said disk he wants to recover.


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Re: Salvage files from harddrive

2009-10-06 Thread jhell




On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 04:07 -0700, jekillen@ wrote:


Hello;
I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that
will not boot.
In single user mode I can mount  /var.

I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and
try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place.

The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with
/var.

Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I
best go about this?

system is FreeBSD v6.2

Thank you in advance for guidance, suggestions.
JK 
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If you can mount this disk in single user mode your best bet to be safe is 
just glabel it to something else that your second system is not before you 
take the disk out of the machine.


Even though I don't think it should/would be a problem I can not speak of a 
authoritative nature on this subject because I have not had to test such 
cases.


Best regards.

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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi Chris,

 The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for 
 obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.
 
 Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but 
 only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.
 
 Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to 
 obtain it?

I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup:

- you re-run sysinstall and install cvsup from the CD
  (Configure/Packages/Net/CVSup)

- or, since you installed the port tree, you go to
  /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and you make, make install, make
  clean

 Q2: Is this explained in the handbook?  If so, where?

Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains:

*default tag=.
*default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
ports-all

You may change the default host accordingly.

Then I use the command cvsup name_of_that_file

Best,

Olivier
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sound enablement on an HP CQ60-419WM

2009-10-06 Thread Henry Olyer
So I want to show a movie;

How do I make sound work?  I'll be using mplayer.

--jg
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Re: Updating the ports collection

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Hill

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote:


Hi Chris,


The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for
obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall.

Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but
only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods.

Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to
obtain it?


I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup:


csup works (almost?) the same as cvsup, and is in the base system 
nowadays. I used to install cvsup, but now I only install fastest_cvsup; 
it's just a utility to find the fastest server for you at the moment.



Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains:

*default tag=.
*default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
ports-all


I do the same, and run csup as:

csup -g -h `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` /etc/supfile.ports

...where /etc/supfile.ports is pretty much as above. In that case, it 
doesn't matter what default host is set to, since the -h option to csup 
overrides the default. The '-c us' part applies to me, but it might not 
for you; see the man page.


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Re: BTX Halted

2009-10-06 Thread Thomas Wahyudi

I have the same problem but 32bit version is running normaly
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