Re: breakthru, maybe....

2009-10-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:34:25AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:00:57 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 04:44:42PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/8.0/ Yes! but i bought the

Re: breakthru, maybe....

2009-10-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
Gary Kline wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:02:37PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:48:46 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: so: what is the URL to download the 8.0-PRE freebsd? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/8.0/

Re: [OT] Show nice columns of numers

2009-10-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:32:42 +0100, Bertram Scharpf li...@bertram-scharpf.de wrote: As it will be a movie, not a photograph, I would like to have huge columns of numbers running over the screen or at least one window. Does somebody know a programm that produces such nice

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Erik Norgaard
pete wright wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: FreeBSD: ? I can't think of a good reason why FreeBSD should get rid of it. Saying that, it would be neat if it was taken out of base and replaced with something minimal that could cope with the demands

VirtualBox kernel module messages

2009-10-29 Thread Scott Bennett
For the first time so far, I managed to get emulators/virtualbox to compile and install from ports a few hours ago. Following the pkg-messages, I attempted to kldload vboxdrv or whatever it was called, which resulted in an immediate crash and automatic system reboot. :-( However, I had

math/arpack patch.tar.gz timestamp differs between ports and freebsd.org

2009-10-29 Thread Scott Bennett
The build of math/octave dies when the build for math/arpack dies due to a timestamp mismatch between local ports tree information and ftp.freebsd.org. So I did a portsnap fetch extract math/arpack and tried the build of math/arpack the old-fashioned way. Script started on Thu Oct 29

Re: VirtualBox kernel module messages

2009-10-29 Thread Beat Gaetzi
Scott Bennett wrote: For the first time so far, I managed to get emulators/virtualbox to compile and install from ports a few hours ago. Following the pkg-messages, I attempted to kldload vboxdrv or whatever it was called, which resulted in an immediate crash and automatic system reboot.

Re: breakthru, maybe....

2009-10-29 Thread Ross Cameron
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 04:44:42PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 16:08, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:02:37PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:48:46

Re: breakthru, maybe....

2009-10-29 Thread Robert Huff
Matthew Seaman writes: All Intel processors produced in the last few years have been 64bit capable, including anything labelled 'core2'. You need to install the amd64 architecture binaries to get the system running in 64bit mode though, even though it's an Intel chip. Likewise, all

Re: most bizarre libc.so.7 problem

2009-10-29 Thread B. Cook
So Yes something to do with ZFS was the culprit.. I had done a zfs upgrade -a and zpool upgrade -a in the past, but I guess I missed on the output that the / was not upgraded (of course) So that was a problem; which may not have been the right one, but it gave me something to hunt.. I had

Re: math/arpack patch.tar.gz timestamp differs between ports and freebsd.org

2009-10-29 Thread RW
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:29:12 -0500 (CDT) Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: The build of math/octave dies when the build for math/arpack dies due to a timestamp mismatch between local ports tree information and ftp.freebsd.org. It's a mismatch between the timestamps on the local

Merging Related Information from 2 Tables

2009-10-29 Thread Martin McCormick
This is probably going to be a hashing exercise but I am checking to see if any of the building blocks needed are already out there. The problem is simple to describe in that there are 2 tables. One is a DNS zone transfer table of all the A or Address records in a given zone or from

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:49:40 +0100, Erik Norgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: But, do we actually need an MTA in the base? The only arguments I have seen in this thread are: - because it's been there since the beginning of history - because cron requires it to send the daily reports For

Re: Merging Related Information from 2 Tables

2009-10-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:38:56 -0500, Martin McCormick mar...@dc.cis.okstate.edu wrote: This is probably going to be a hashing exercise but I am checking to see if any of the building blocks needed are already out there. The problem is simple to describe in that there are 2 tables. One is a

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Erik Norgaard
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: So Sendmail is a pretty heavy-weight program, but it also supports a lot of features. Which was the point, if the only process in base that requires some way to dump output other than send to syslog, is cron, then Sendmail is disproportionate solution for the

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:55:20PM +0100, Erik Norgaard typed: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I don't argue for a replacement but for the elimination. Install a port if you need an MTA, you're happy with that way for so many other standard services. Isn't this going a little too far? What other

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread RW
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: What is nice about Sendmail today is that with minimal changes to a base FreeBSD installation (the rc.conf(5) variable called sendmail_enable and a SMART_HOST value in sendmail.mc) one can quickly get up and

Re: Merging Related Information from 2 Tables

2009-10-29 Thread Martin McCormick
Giorgos Keramidas writes: You should use a Perl or Python script, and a hash... If you show us a few sample lines from the input file and how you want the output to look, it shouldn't be too hard to quickly hack one of those together. Perl and python-- I wasn't even thinking of

Re: math/arpack patch.tar.gz timestamp differs between ports and freebsd.org

2009-10-29 Thread b. f.
= patch.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/arpack. = Attempting to fetch from http://www.caam.rice.edu/software/ARPACK/SRC/. fetch: patch.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote rm -v /usr/ports/distfiles/arpack/patch.tar.gz and start again. b.

Re: lang/gcc43 and lang/gcc44 installation procedures broken after updates

2009-10-29 Thread b. f.
On 10/29/09, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:19:08 + b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: On 10/28/09, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:28:51 + b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: Scott Bennet wrote:

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Lars Eighner
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Ruben de Groot wrote: sendmail is NOT a legacy application. It's actively being developed ON FreeBSD. Actually, the maintainer(s) are doing a great job Bullshit. Why does sendmail call up the internet during boot? If it needs to know who it is, why can't it look in

Re: breakthru, maybe....

2009-10-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 02:09:50PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 04:44:42PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 16:08, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:34:35PM +, RW wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: What is nice about Sendmail today is that with minimal changes to a base FreeBSD installation (the rc.conf(5) variable called sendmail_enable and a

Get the cwd of a process?

2009-10-29 Thread patrick
Is there any way to get the cwd of a process? We had the situation recently where a perl script was called from an infiltrated Wordpress installation, but we weren't able to determine which of the hundreds of Wordpress blogs was the source. The ps listing showed: www 63968 2.4 0.2

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ruben de Groot wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:55:20PM +0100, Erik Norgaard typed: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I don't argue for a replacement but for the elimination. Install a port if you need an MTA, you're happy with that way for so many other standard services. Isn't this going a little

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:34:35 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: What is nice about Sendmail today is that with minimal changes to a base FreeBSD installation (the rc.conf(5) variable called

Re: Merging Related Information from 2 Tables

2009-10-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:37:09 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: You should use a Perl or Python script, and a hash... ... Running this script should produce something like: : keram...@kobe:/tmp$ python martin.py input-file : {'kobe': [('A', '127.0.0.1'), ('TXT', 'This

Effing HAL

2009-10-29 Thread Freminlins
For Christ's sake. I have an IBM X41 laptop, which was happily running FreeBSD 7.1. Having a little free time this evening I decided to update it to 7.2. The upgrade failed miserably so I had to install from scratch. But that's OK, because I had backed up the machine beforehand. The install went

Re: Effing HAL

2009-10-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Freminlins freminl...@gmail.com wrote: For Christ's sake. I have an IBM X41 laptop, which was happily running FreeBSD 7.1. Having a little free time this evening I decided to update it to 7.2. The upgrade failed miserably so I had to install from scratch. But

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread RW
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:49 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:34:35 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: What is nice about Sendmail today is that with

Re: math/arpack patch.tar.gz timestamp differs between ports and freebsd.org

2009-10-29 Thread Scott Bennett
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:41:37 + b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: = patch.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/arpack. = Attempting to fetch from http://www.caam.rice.edu/software/ARPACK/SRC/. fetch: patch.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote rm -v

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-29 Thread Rich Kulawiec
Having used sendmail since (quite nearly) the day it was released, and having also spent considerable time with postfix, exim, etc. in a variety of environments both small and quite large, I think I'm in a position to address this. Sendmail remains one of the best choices for an MTA. It's quite

Re: Effing HAL

2009-10-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, October 29, 2009 16:55:58 -0500 Freminlins freminl...@gmail.com wrote: I know this isn't specifically a FreeBSD problem, HAL being needed by X. But the flipping installer should enable it when I selected X flipping User from the install options. My little upgrade has now turned

Re: lang/gcc43 and lang/gcc44 installation procedures broken after updates

2009-10-29 Thread Scott Bennett
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:07:09 + b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: On 10/29/09, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:19:08 + b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: On 10/28/09, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:28:51 +

Re: Effing HAL

2009-10-29 Thread Freminlins
2009/10/29 Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com Far be it from me to pile on when you're already so frustrated, but I run into these sorts of problems myself from time to time. It's usually because I didn't bother to read /usr/ports/UPDATING first, which in this case might have warned you.

Re: lang/gcc43 and lang/gcc44 installation procedures broken after updates

2009-10-29 Thread Henry Olyer
Look, keep claiming that it's working if you like, but I've been backing up another machine and making notes -- so that when I do my reinstall of 7.2, I don't have to come back here again, asking for help that's already been given. My point is: gcc44 doesn't work. It is broken and I suspect

Dejar de pagar impuestos

2009-10-29 Thread Evomex
“NI UN PESO MAS” SE TRATA DE UNIRNOS PARA QUE YA NO SE ROBEN NUESTRO DINERO. ES UNA DECISIÓN INDIVIDUAL, PERO SI LA TOMAMOS TODOS AL MISMO TIEMPO, SEREMOS MAS FUERTES QUE NUNCA... Y NO NOS ROBARÁN. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--5qUiNEHx4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--5qUiNEHx4 ESTIMADOS

Re: Effing HAL

2009-10-29 Thread Reed Loefgren
Freminlins wrote: 2009/10/29 Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com Far be it from me to pile on when you're already so frustrated, but I run into these sorts of problems myself from time to time. It's usually because I didn't bother to read /usr/ports/UPDATING first, which in this case

Re: lang/gcc43 and lang/gcc44 installation procedures broken after updates

2009-10-29 Thread Scott Bennett
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:19:28 -0400 Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: Look, keep claiming that it's working if you like, but I've been backing up another machine and making notes -- so that when I do my reinstall of 7.2, I don't have to come back here again, asking for help that's

Re: Effing HAL

2009-10-29 Thread Matt
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Freminlins freminl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/29 Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com The whole Xorg thing, at least on FreeBSD, is just a minefield. I like to remove unnecessary packages, to save space for when I do backups. I don't have an Nvidia card on

APACHE/PHP/MYSQL Password Hash

2009-10-29 Thread Monty Pyth
I have inherited a website to work on that users authenticate to using a login and password from a login page. The server is FreeBSD 6.2 running APACHE/PHP/MYSQL. There is a MYSQL table that maintains all of the users. The table has a users name and password. The password is hashed and some

Re: APACHE/PHP/MYSQL Password Hash

2009-10-29 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, The password is hashed and some examples are: 02SvtVJnRLzuQ 42jhVP6kxUBX6 Can anyone tell me what file I would look at to see what hash algorithm is being used to store the passwords in the table? Any help would be great. As a hint, to help make it easier to reply, where are the

Re: breakthru, maybe....

2009-10-29 Thread Al Plant
Gary Kline wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 02:09:50PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 04:44:42PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 16:08, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 28,

Re: APACHE/PHP/MYSQL Password Hash

2009-10-29 Thread APseudoUtopia
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Monty Pyth freebsdn...@yahoo.com wrote: I have inherited a website to work on that users authenticate to using a login and password from a login page. The server is FreeBSD 6.2 running APACHE/PHP/MYSQL. There is a MYSQL table that maintains all of the users.

Rebuild instructions for amd64 systems

2009-10-29 Thread Richard Gehlbach
I am installing FreeBSD 7.2 / amd64 on a new server (HP DL370 G6) with 2 quad Xeon processors and 16GB memory. I have worked with the i386 versions since version 3.x, but this is the first server large enough to need amd64. I have been trying to determine the correct procedures for

Re: Get the cwd of a process?

2009-10-29 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 29), patrick said: Is there any way to get the cwd of a process? We had the situation recently where a perl script was called from an infiltrated Wordpress installation, but we weren't able to determine which of the hundreds of Wordpress blogs was the source. The ps

Re: Rebuild instructions for amd64 systems

2009-10-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Richard Gehlbach rdgeh...@gehlbach.comwrote: I am installing FreeBSD 7.2 / amd64 on a new server (HP DL370 G6) with 2 quad Xeon processors and 16GB memory. I have worked with the i386 versions since version 3.x, but this is the first server large enough to

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-29 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 03:32 +, RW wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:04:24 + Freminlins freminl...@gmail.com wrote: I must admit I gave up ever getting Flash to work RELIABLY on FreeBSD a long time ago. It's just too hard, too much work, and not worth the misery of installing heaps

Re: Get the cwd of a process?

2009-10-29 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.comwrote: In the last episode (Oct 29), patrick said: Is there any way to get the cwd of a process? We had the situation recently where a perl script was called from an infiltrated Wordpress installation, but we weren't able