Re: Q: recommendation for external USB disk

2010-01-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

just buy the hard disk of your choice and put it into the case of 
your choice.

I use only disks which come with five years warrenty.

On 14 January 2010 pm 20:01:08 Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Tuesday, January 12, 2010 a las 08:12:17AM +0100, Bas 
Smeelen escribió:
  I use Freecom hard drive XS 1.5TB USB2.0 on our fallback
  servers as back-up disks.

 Your /dev/da1s1d let me think that you have created more than
 one partition...

After a bad experience, I use as many slices as the machine uses I 
take the data from. I also backup the programs.

Then, I use for the external disk the same interface which I can 
use in the machine. So, if the internal hard disk fails, will be 
able to exchange the disks and boot. Ok, fstab might needs to be 
edited.

Erich
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Re: OOo question.....

2010-01-17 Thread Mike Clarke
On Sunday 17 January 2010, Gary Kline wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:27:59AM +, Mike Clarke wrote:
  On Saturday 16 January 2010, Gary Kline wrote:

[snip]

 Second q is howto use them for my desktop backgrounds in KDE
   since, upon rebuild and relaunch, everything is black.   the
   first question is howto save a separate image?  or are there
   other tools to do this? [neither xv nor gv work]
 
  Right click on a blank piece of the KDE desktop and select
  Configure Desktop. This should open with the Change the
  background settings icon highlighted. In the Background section
  click the Picture radio button and click the folder icon on the
  right to browse to your selected image.

   (Several hours later).

   I found the place and added three 'wallpapers'; they haven't
 appeared. Probably will after I've rebooted.

The new wallpaper should appear immediately after you click on OK 
or Apply.

 ---I see that my newest KDE is 3.5.10.

That's what I'm using.

 Sometime this year I'll try KDE4 again.--   

When I upgraded to FreeBSD 8.0 about a month ago I let sysinstall put 
KDE4 on me. Big mistake [1]. I disliked it intensely and, after a few 
days trying to come to terms with it, I reverted back to 3.5.10. YMMV 
but for me it was just too clumsy and bloated with a lot of new 
superfluous eye candy and lacked some simple and useful features that 
I'd become accustomed to. Given time perhaps I could have configured it 
to my liking but I couldn't see it offering anything useful that I 
didn't already have with 3.5 so it didn't seem worth the effort of 
continuing with it.

[1] I suspect that my badly managed effort of deinstalling all of KDE4 
and installing KDE3 was the main cause of the problems described in my 
recent thread Problems building en-openoffice.org-GB-3.1.1 from ports 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-January/210421.html 
which resulted in me having to remove and reinstall all my ports.

-- 
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Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now

2010-01-17 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Greg Larkin píše v so 16. 01. 2010 v 18:02 -0500:

 Here is the original post:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg227363.html

I will agree that `portupgrade -o` is way too useful feature.
I'd vote for reverting to the old behaviour.

 I thought portmgr might have some insight into additional reasons for
 making the change, such as fixing a problem with pointyhat builds, etc.
  At the moment, I'm neutral on the change, since it hasn't caused me any
 grief, but I did some research for the folks who posted the original
 questions.

It was done because someone thought it is a good idea and submitted a PR
about it.

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Re: changing place of .core files

2010-01-17 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:23:52PM +0100, Marco Beishuizen typed:
 Normally when a program crashes, it places a .core file in the 
 homefilesystem. Is there a way of changing the filesystem where FreeBSD 
 places it's core dumps?

man core

Ruben
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Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now

2010-01-17 Thread Martin Wilke
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:44:05 +0100
Pav Lucistnik p...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Greg Larkin píše v so 16. 01. 2010 v 18:02 -0500:
 
  Here is the original post:
  http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg227363.html
 
 I will agree that `portupgrade -o` is way too useful feature.
 I'd vote for reverting to the old behaviour.
 
  I thought portmgr might have some insight into additional reasons
  for making the change, such as fixing a problem with pointyhat
  builds, etc. At the moment, I'm neutral on the change, since it
  hasn't caused me any grief, but I did some research for the folks
  who posted the original questions.
 
 It was done because someone thought it is a good idea and submitted a
 PR about it.
 

Howdy,

For some ports is the conflict check too late see example here.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gecko/2009-December/000577.html 

I agree that we need a new pre-fetch hook in bsd.port.mk if a conflict
present is. But that need a bit work and it is on my todo list...

- Martin
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Re: To jail, or not to jail?

2010-01-17 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 06:21:59PM -0600, Kirk Strauser typed:
 I've been having fun playing with jails on my home server. There's one 
 for databases, one for a webserver, another for using as a play shell 
 server, etc. We use jails heavily at work for encapsulating services, 
 and I can make a pretty good argument there for doing so. In general, 
 though, do you see jails as particularly important or useful when not in 
 a hosting environment where you're giving root access to an untrusted 
 party? How far do you go toward segregating services? Theoretically, you 
 could have a jail per daemon, but it seems like down that path lies madness.

Not long ago, I've setup some development servers with ezjail where different
developers can each rapidly create standard jailed environments and do their
dev and test work there, and discard them when they're finished.
Next to hosting, I believe this is another environment where jailing is a great
advantage.

Ruben

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Re: (SOLVED) Re: installing FreeBSD 8 on SSDs and UFS2 - partition alignment, block sizes, what does one need to know?

2010-01-17 Thread Ronald Klop
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:57:03 +0100, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com  
wrote:


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Rick Macklem rmack...@uoguelph.ca  
wrote:



On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Dan Naumov wrote:


For my upcoming storage system, the OS install is going to be on a
80gb Intel SSD disk and for various reasons, I am now pretty convinced
to stick with UFS2 for the root partition (the actual data pool will
be ZFS using traditional SATA disks). I am probably going to use GPT
partitioning and have the SSD host the swap, boot, root and a few
other partitions. What do I need to know in regards to partition
alignment and filesystem block sizes to get the best performance out
of the Intel SSDs?


I can't help with your question, but I thought I'd mention that there
was a recent post (on freebsd-current, I think?) w.r.t. using an SSD
for the ZFS log file. It suggested that that helped with ZFS perf., so
you might want to look for the message.

rick


I have managed to figure out the essential things to know by know, I
just wish there was a single, easy to grasp webpage or HOWTO
describing and whys and hows so I wouldn't have had had to spend the
entire day googling things to get a proper grasp on the issue :)


Maybe you can copy-paste your e-mail in a wiki somewhere. And your wish  
has come true for other peoples.


Ronald.




To (perhaps a bit too much) simplify things, if you are using an SSD
with FreeeBSD, you:

1) Should use GPT

2) Should create the freebsd-boot partition as normal (to ensure
compatibility with some funky BIOSes)

3) All additional partitions should be aligned, meaning that their
boundaries should be dividable by 1024kb (that's 2048 logical blocks
in gpart). Ie, having created your freeebsd-boot, your next partition
should start at block 2048 and the partition size should be dividable
by 2048 blocks. This applies to ALL further partitions added to the
disk, so you WILL end up having some empty space between them, but a
few MBs worth of space will be lost at most.

P.S: My oversimplification was in that MOST SSDs will be just fine
with a 512 kb / 1024 block alignment. However, _ALL_ SSDs will be fine
with 1024 kb / 2048 block alignment.


- Sincerely,
Dan Naumov
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Re: Sound (micro-)interrupts with 8.0 stable/snd_hda/mplayer/vlc

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Hummel
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Pieter de Goeje pie...@degoeje.nl wrote:

Thanks for your reply,

Try increasing the hw.snd.latency sysctl:


Going from 5 to 10 doesn't change anything (actually, it seems worse on the
file I tried). So the mystery still stands...

Note that the micro-interrupts don't occur always at the same timestamp in
the file which is playing.
If I play one, let's say 3 times in a row, sound may drop around the same
moment each time but not necessary...

Just thinking out loud here, but maybe you have some non-standard HZ
 configured or powerd configured to clock the CPU back by an extreme amount,
 both could theoretically cause buffer underruns.


I'm not quite sure I understand what you're thinking of. Anyway, I haven't
changed any defaults :

% cat /boot/loader.conf
#zfs
zfs_load=YES
vfs.root.mountfrom=zfs:zroot

# nividia
nvidia_load=YES

# sound
snd_hda_load=YES
hw.snd.default_unit=0

# k3b
atapicam_load=YES
hw.ata.atapi_dma=1

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Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now

2010-01-17 Thread Matthew Seaman

Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:


I'd be very happy if I could:
- fetch the distfiles, even if I have a conflicting port installed
- be able to use portmaster -o to switch from one port to an other one
  that conflicts with it.
- be able to at least compile a port (eg. for testing) without having
  to de-install the current one.

I'm all in favor of restoring the old behavior with a switch available
to turn on the new one.


+1

Although a big fat warning message at fetch or build phase when operating on
a port with conflicts wouldn't go amiss.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now

2010-01-17 Thread b. f.
On 1/17/10, Martin Wilke m...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:44:05 +0100
 Pav Lucistnik p...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Greg Larkin píše v so 16. 01. 2010 v 18:02 -0500:


 I will agree that `portupgrade -o` is way too useful feature.
 I'd vote for reverting to the old behaviour.


portupgrade and other tools can easily be patched to work with  the
new behavior, by defining DISABLE_CONFLICTS for the targets preceding
installation.  Since the new behavior is generally more efficient, and
safer, and since the people who will need to defer the check for some
reason are in the minority, I vote that we keep the new behavior, and
offer a chance to opt out of it with something like the attached
patch. I didn't add any extra warnings, since I assumed that those who
choose to defer the checks already know that this may lead to problems
in some cases.

b.



  I thought portmgr might have some insight into additional reasons
  for making the change, such as fixing a problem with pointyhat
  builds, etc. At the moment, I'm neutral on the change, since it
  hasn't caused me any grief, but I did some research for the folks
  who posted the original questions.

 It was done because someone thought it is a good idea and submitted a
 PR about it.


 Howdy,

 For some ports is the conflict check too late see example here.

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gecko/2009-December/000577.html

 I agree that we need a new pre-fetch hook in bsd.port.mk if a conflict
 present is. But that need a bit work and it is on my todo list...

 - Martin

--- bsd.port.mk.orig2010-01-17 09:46:09.0 -0500
+++ bsd.port.mk 2010-01-17 10:36:02.0 -0500
@@ -541,6 +541,10 @@
 #pattern meta-characters *, ?, [, ], 
and !.
 #Example: apache*-1.2* apache*-1.3.[012345] 
apache-*+ssl_*
 #
+# LATE_CONFLICTS   - If set, this port will defer the check for conflicts 
until immediately
+#  before the install target, to allow conflicting ports 
to be fetched and built.
+#  This may expose build errors due to the presence of 
conflicting ports.
+#
 # Various directory definitions and variables to control them.
 # You rarely need to redefine any of these except WRKSRC and NO_WRKSUBDIR.
 #
@@ -4253,9 +4257,17 @@
 .else
 _CHROOT_SEQ=
 .endif
+.if defined(LATE_CONFLICTS)
+_EARLY_CONFLICT_CHECK=
+_LATE_CONFLICT_CHECK=  check-conflicts
+.else
+_EARLY_CONFLICT_CHECK= check-conflicts
+_LATE_CONFLICT_CHECK=
+.endif
+
 _SANITY_SEQ=   ${_CHROOT_SEQ} pre-everything check-makefile \
check-categories check-makevars 
check-desktop-entries \
-   check-conflicts check-depends check-deprecated \
+   ${_EARLY_CONFLICT_CHECK} check-depends 
check-deprecated \
check-vulnerable buildanyway-message 
options-message
 _FETCH_DEP=check-sanity
 _FETCH_SEQ=fetch-depends pre-fetch pre-fetch-script \
@@ -4275,8 +4287,8 @@
 _BUILD_SEQ=build-message pre-build pre-build-script do-build \
post-build post-build-script
 _INSTALL_DEP=  build
-_INSTALL_SEQ=  install-message run-depends lib-depends apply-slist pre-install 
\
-   pre-install-script generate-plist 
check-already-installed
+_INSTALL_SEQ=  install-message ${_LATE_CONFLICT_CHECK} run-depends lib-depends 
\
+   apply-slist pre-install pre-install-script 
generate-plist check-already-installed
 _INSTALL_SUSEQ= check-umask install-mtree pre-su-install \
pre-su-install-script create-users-groups 
do-install \
install-desktop-entries post-install 
post-install-script \
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Re: Newbie gmirror questions

2010-01-17 Thread Mike Clarke
On Saturday 16 January 2010, Pieter de Goeje wrote:

 On Saturday 16 January 2010 00:34:52 Mike Clarke wrote:
  I'm about to upgrade to more disk space and I'm tempted use this as
  an opportunity to get two disks and implement gmirror. Before I go
  ahead there's a few aspects of mirroring I'm not sure about and
  would appreciate some advice.
 
  I'm using grub for multi booting. Does this introduce any problems
  if I want to boot into Windows or Linux on one of the other
  partitions?

 Gmirror stores the metadata at the last sector of each disk. So this
 shouldn't be a problem. But other operating systems might overwrite
 this data if you're not careful during the paritioning.

I'll make sure that the last stripe on the disk isn't used by 
any alien OS then.

Actually I was more concerned about what happens when I boot into 
another OS like Windows or Linux on one of the spare slices - I'm 
assuming that I have to apply gmirror to the whole disk rather than 
just selected slices?

My main reason for multibooting with grub is to have a spare slice where 
I can install a spare copy of FreeBSD. I find this very useful when I 
do any major upgrade (like trying out your suggestion of going to 
8-STABLE) because I can copy the current system onto the spare slice 
and use that to apply the upgrades, if I hit any major problems I can 
easily revert to booting the original slice until I figure out how to 
fix the problem. I'm assuming that using gmirror won't prevent me from 
doing this.

If I boot into an OS which isn't aware of gmirror, such as Windows, then 
I assume it will just run normally if I point grub to the appropriate 
slice on the primary drive. Next time I boot into FreeBSD then I expect 
gmirror will recognise that the second drive is out of sync with the 
primary and update it in the background. Perhaps this might hit 
performance for a while but on the other hand it provides me with a 
certain amount of backup if the Windows system trashes itself because 
I could try to restore it from the copy on the second drive before 
attempting to reboot FreeBSD. I assume the same logic would also apply 
to running Linux on one of the slices, although Linux has software 
mirror capability it appears to be totally different from gmirror so I 
expect it's a case of running that non-mirrored too. If this approach 
isn't wise then I expect I'll need to keep a spare non-mirrored disk 
for the other systems.

I don't expect to need to boot into Windows or Linux very often. Now 
that I've upgraded from FreeBSD 6.4 to 8.0 I'm able to make use of 
virtualbox for this sort of thing which is generally much more 
convenient but I'd like to keep the ability to run them natively should 
the need arise.

-- 
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Re: Newbie gmirror questions

2010-01-17 Thread Matthew Seaman

Mike Clarke wrote:

Actually I was more concerned about what happens when I boot into 
another OS like Windows or Linux on one of the spare slices - I'm 
assuming that I have to apply gmirror to the whole disk rather than 
just selected slices?


You can't do this.  gmirror is FreeBSD specific, and other OSes can't
deal with it.  You can take your two drives, partition them (fdisk) and
then create a gmirror across the slices you assign to FreeBSD.  Similarly
you could set up md to mirror the slice(s) used for Linux.  As far as I
know, Windows doesn't come with OS level mirroring software -- it can use
hostraid[*], or I believe there are some commercial solutions you can
purchase.  Or just treat your Windows partitions as two separate drives,
and live without resilience for that OS.

As far as booting the system goes, Grub should be able to boot each OS
from either mirror as if it was a plain installation on a single drive.

Wilder suggestions would be to install Linux, Open Solaris or NetBSD as a
Xen dom0, and then install your other OSes as domU guests.  In this case,
you'ld mirror the storage within the dom0 instance and export a device to
each of the client OSes.  [Open Solaris particularly interesting for this
purpose, as you could use ZFS.]  This is substantially more complex to set
up than your current plan, but does have the very handy advantage that you
can run all of your OSes simultaneously.

Cheers,

Matthew


[*] FreeBSD can use this too -- the disks appear as an ar device (see ata(4))
-- and presumably so can Linux, but I can't confirm that.  Hostraid is
generally second best to OS based RAIDs.  Apart from anything else, you tend
to have to bring the system down to the BIOS level to do anything to the
RAIDs.

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gmirror+gjournal: spontaneous reboots on excessive disk access

2010-01-17 Thread Michael Grimm
Hi --

I'm running a gmirror raid1 plus gjournal for a year now. This is a
7.2-RELEASE-p6 right now. Both disks are regular ATA and healthy
according smartctl.

Sometimes, not always though, I do experience spontaneous reboots
without leaving any hints in logfiles whenver I beat my disks
excessively. This might be something like:

dd if=/dev/null of=/some/file bs=1M count=4k
plus
parallel disk accesses by mail and news server.

If I omit all parallel disk access those dd's will run to completion
without reboots, always.

It might well be that there is something wrong with my hardware
(co-located, no access to the console available). Thus, before
addressing support I'd like to know: has anyone else seen reboots 
under those conditions?

Regards,
Michael
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Running PHP File under Crontab...

2010-01-17 Thread Diego Montalvo
I am wanting to execute a PHP file 5 times a day via crontab. Is it
possible?  If so what is the proper crontab command for this?

Thanks,
Diego
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Re: [PHP] RE: Clean PHP 5.2.12 Build Core Dumping / Can't Build Port - FreeBSD 6.1

2010-01-17 Thread hack988 hack988
I think Vasily Pupkin is right.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.diff?r1=1.630;r2=1.631;f=h
Found {portsdir}/Mk/bsd.port.mk and make sure the version is higher
than 1.631(2009/12/18)
In another side,your are use *default tag=. in your supfile or /etc/make.conf?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html
mybe you need to use *default tag=RELEASE_6_1_0

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/lang/php5/?only_with_tag=RELEASE_6_1_0
php5.x for freebsd 6.1

2010/1/16 Vasily Pupkin poopk...@mail.ru:
 add X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} as it is shown below:

 #echo X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}  /etc/make.conf

 The problem is in recent changeset for ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk:
 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.diff?r1=1.630;r2=1.631;f=h)

 ..if ${X11BASE} != ${LOCALBASE}
 ..BEGIN:
 @${ECHO_MSG} X11BASE is now deprecated. Unset X11BASE in make.conf and try 
 again.
 @${FALSE}
 ..endif

 The guy commited the revision couldn't imagine that there is no X11BASE on 
 system defined at all while LOCALBASE is defined.
 This bug should be fixed soon because a lot of people will stuck with it 
 after ports upgrade.

 ===
 I try a 'make all-depend-list'
 the error shows up
 =
 which error show ?

 # make
 X11BASE is now deprecated.  Unset X11BASE in make.conf and try again.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop.

 That's the error... happens every time, no matter what I try to set/unset in
 /etc/make.conf. I looked through the makefiles to see where X11BASE is
 referenced and I can't find any place where it is to just kill it.

  This is _exactly_ what I did, and as soon as I try a 'make all-
 depend-list'
  the error shows up. I don't even have the X11 system installed (it's
 a
  headless server, with no GUI).
 
  This is on a CLEAN 6.1 install, without any upgrades/patches, just
 straight
  off the ISO install and after a portsnap install/extract.
 
  I tried building it _before_ I updated the ports and it would build a
 5.1.2
  php ok, but I need 5.2.12. Something has changed in the port between
 5.1.2
  and 5.2.12
 
  1.add
  WITHOUT_X11=yes
  in /etc/make.conf
  2.remove
  X11BASE=
  from that file and
 
  4.make all-depend-list
  5.make clean all depend soft
  6.make menuconfig set X11 disable
  7.make make install
 
 
  2010/1/12 Don O'Neil li...@lizardhill.com:
   Ok.. just for grins I installed a new instance of 6.1, NO Patches,
  just
   straight off the ISO...
  
   I loaded the ports that came WITH the distro, and was able to make
  php 5.1.2
   ok...
  
   When I did a portsnap fetch, portsnap extract, then went into the
   /usr/ports/lang/php5 and just typed make I get the same error...
  
   SO as it seems, the port is broken, at least for working with
 FreeBSD
  6.1.
  
   Can anyone give me some hints on how to build this sucker by hand?
  Seems as
   though there are a bunch of patches that are referenced in the
  distinfo
   file.
  
   I REALLY need to get this taken care of asap, any help is
  appreciated.
  
   Thanks!
  
 I tried adding WITHOUT_X11=yes to /etc/make.conf as well as
   X11BASE=
and
 X11BASE=, but I still get the same error.
   
Remove them. This makes sure they are not defined, not even
empty (as in #define BLA - symbol 'BLA' is defined).
   
 Where to go from here? Do I have and old version of something
  that
   is
 causing this? I get this error _right away_ before anything
 is
  even
built.
   
It seems to be a check by the Makefile at port's top level.
  
   Ok... I have no definition for X11BASE anywhere, not in my env,
 not
  in
   my
   /etc/make.conf, nowhwere...
  
   However, it's still complaining about X11BASE being deprecated. I
  tried
   just
   adding WITHOUT_X11=yes in /etc/make, and without it. I even
 searched
   all the
   Makefiles in /usr/ports, and in the /usr/ports/lang/php5 dir to
 find
   any
   reference to X11, or X, or X11BASE, but nada... I don't even know
  where
   this
   error message is being generated from.
  
   I can't even do a basic make without it immediately spitting out
 the
   error:
  
   # make
   X11BASE is now deprecated.  Unset X11BASE in make.conf and try
  again.
   *** Error code 1
  
   Stop.


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Re: Running PHP File under Crontab...

2010-01-17 Thread mikel king



On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:


I am wanting to execute a PHP file 5 times a day via crontab. Is it
possible?  If so what is the proper crontab command for this?

Thanks,
Diego


Diego,

	Certainly, but you must ensure that you have the CLI version of PHP  
installed.



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Re: Running PHP File under Crontab...

2010-01-17 Thread Diego Montalvo
CLI meaning, if I can run and excute ?php echo 'hello world';? in
command line,  a php file can run in crontab?  doing the following in
shell: # php helloworld.php - hello world is produced...

Thanks!



2010/1/17 mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com:


 On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:

 I am wanting to execute a PHP file 5 times a day via crontab. Is it
 possible?  If so what is the proper crontab command for this?

 Thanks,
 Diego

 Diego,
 Certainly, but you must ensure that you have the CLI version of PHP
 installed.

 Regards,
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 CEO, Olivent Technologies
 Senior Editor, BSD News Network
 Columnist, BSD Magazine
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 Medford, NY 11763
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Re: Running PHP File under Crontab...

2010-01-17 Thread Diego Montalvo
I am using ?php #!/bin/sh ?

2010/1/17 mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com:

 On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:

 CLI meaning, if I can run and excute ?php echo 'hello world';? in
 command line,  a php file can run in crontab?  doing the following in
 shell: # php helloworld.php - hello world is produced...

 Thanks!




 ok then do you have #!/usr/local/bin/php as your first line of the script?
 Or are you using the bash exec command to run the code in your shell script?

 Also you can try placing the path to the php CLI executable in the crontab.




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Re: Running PHP File under Crontab...

2010-01-17 Thread Nerius Landys
 I am wanting to execute a PHP file 5 times a day via crontab. Is it
 possible?  If so what is the proper crontab command for this?

Hi.  I'm running several PHP programs via cron.


#1 Make sure you have CLI (command line interface) in your PHP port:

As root,

 cd /usr/ports/lang/php5
 make config
Then make sure the CLI is set to on.  If it isn't, change it, and
recompile the port.  For example portupgrade -f php5-5.2.12 will
recompile the port, if you have portupgrade installed.


#2 Write the PHP script you want to run.  There are different syntaxes
for writing a command-line PHP program but here is one of them:


?php
// Your PHP code here
?


Save this to a path /path/to/mycode.php.


#3 Add cron job to execute this program.

Your crontab should look like this:

*/5 * * * * /usr/local/bin/php -f /path/to/mycode.php

(That would execute your PHP script every 5 minutes for example.)



That's it!

There is an alternate way to write PHP scripts for CLI, but I have not
used it extensively, so I don't know all the details or the correctest
way to do it.

You can write a script like this:

#!/usr/local/bin/php
?php
echo Hello!\n;
?

And then save it to a file for example test.php and set the
executable permission on it.  Then you can just:

./test.php

from a terminal.  So you could change the cron to just execute the
script directly in this case instead of explicitly calling
/usr/local/bin/php in the crontab.
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Re: Running PHP File under Crontab...

2010-01-17 Thread mikel king


On Jan 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:


I am using ?php #!/bin/sh ?

2010/1/17 mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com:


On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:


CLI meaning, if I can run and excute ?php echo 'hello world';? in
command line,  a php file can run in crontab?  doing the following  
in

shell: # php helloworld.php - hello world is produced...

Thanks!





ok then do you have #!/usr/local/bin/php as your first line of the  
script?
Or are you using the bash exec command to run the code in your  
shell script?


Also you can try placing the path to the php CLI executable in the  
crontab.



If your php executable is in /usr/local/bin then replace /bin/sh with  
that in your script file.


#!/usr/local/bin/php

?php

echo Hello cruel world!!!\n;

?

Remember to chmod +x the script file.

m!

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Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now

2010-01-17 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote:


Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:


I'd be very happy if I could:
- fetch the distfiles, even if I have a conflicting port installed
- be able to use portmaster -o to switch from one port to an other one
  that conflicts with it.
- be able to at least compile a port (eg. for testing) without having
  to de-install the current one.

I'm all in favor of restoring the old behavior with a switch available
to turn on the new one.


+1

Although a big fat warning message at fetch or build phase when operating on
a port with conflicts wouldn't go amiss.


Agreed.  A warning would give time to interrupt a big distfile fetch or 
build without taking that option away by default, or encouraging 
disabling conflict checks altogether.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now

2010-01-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 17), Martin Wilke said:
 On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:44:05 +0100
 Pav Lucistnik p...@freebsd.org wrote:
  Greg Larkin píse v so 16. 01. 2010 v 18:02 -0500:
   Here is the original post:
   http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg227363.html
  
  I will agree that `portupgrade -o` is way too useful feature.  I'd vote
  for reverting to the old behaviour.
  
   I thought portmgr might have some insight into additional reasons for
   making the change, such as fixing a problem with pointyhat builds,
   etc.  At the moment, I'm neutral on the change, since it hasn't caused
   me any grief, but I did some research for the folks who posted the
   original questions.
  
  It was done because someone thought it is a good idea and submitted a PR
  about it.
 
 For some ports is the conflict check too late see example here.
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gecko/2009-December/000577.html 
 
 I agree that we need a new pre-fetch hook in bsd.port.mk if a conflict
 present is.  But that need a bit work and it is on my todo list...

Maybe CONFLICTS could be treated like DEPENDS, with separate BUILD and RUN
checks.

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Re: Running PHP File under Crontab...

2010-01-17 Thread Diego Montalvo
One other question,  is there a way to copy the ouput of the crontab
php file to another file?

Simply the hello world output and not the ?php? code... ??

2010/1/17 mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com:

 On Jan 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:

 I am using ?php #!/bin/sh ?

 2010/1/17 mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com:

 On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:

 CLI meaning, if I can run and excute ?php echo 'hello world';? in
 command line,  a php file can run in crontab?  doing the following in
 shell: # php helloworld.php - hello world is produced...

 Thanks!




 ok then do you have #!/usr/local/bin/php as your first line of the
 script?
 Or are you using the bash exec command to run the code in your shell
 script?

 Also you can try placing the path to the php CLI executable in the
 crontab.


 If your php executable is in /usr/local/bin then replace /bin/sh with that
 in your script file.

 #!/usr/local/bin/php

 ?php

        echo Hello cruel world!!!\n;

 ?

 Remember to chmod +x the script file.

 m!


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Re: Newbie gmirror questions

2010-01-17 Thread Mike Clarke
On Sunday 17 January 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 Mike Clarke wrote:
  Actually I was more concerned about what happens when I boot into
  another OS like Windows or Linux on one of the spare slices - I'm
  assuming that I have to apply gmirror to the whole disk rather than
  just selected slices?

 You can't do this.  gmirror is FreeBSD specific, and other OSes can't
 deal with it.  You can take your two drives, partition them (fdisk)
 and then create a gmirror across the slices you assign to FreeBSD.

This will make things a lot easier for me. I think all the examples of 
gmirror I've seen used things like /dev/da0 as the provider in label 
commands so I assumed that I had to use the whole physical disk but if 
I can mirror individual slices then I have much more flexibility.

My motherboard has a UDMA133 controller for ata0  ata1 (which I don't 
use) and 2 SATA controllers for ata2 to ata5 so with my 2 SATA drives 
spread between the controllers on channels 2  4 I could have something 
like /dev/mirror/gm1 provided by /dev/ad2s1  /dev/ad4s1 
and /dev/mirror/gm2 provided by /dev/ad2s2  /dev/ad4s2 for a couple of 
FreeBSD systems. That will leave me with 2 spare slices on each drive 
for other purposes. Any Windows or Linux stuff I put on tends to be 
mainly experimental and less long term than my FreeBSD system so don't 
really need the resilience of being mirrored.

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Problem viewing DVDs

2010-01-17 Thread Jens Schweikhardt
hello, world\n

I'm trying to view a Friends DVD (original) on my 8-Current system
but none of the dvd viewer apps (eg. ogle and mplayer) work.
Investigating I found that I can mount the DVD as a cd9660 file
system, but all the *.vob files result in an I/O error when read,
while all the non-vobs can be read just fine:

/cdrom/video_ts # ls -l
total 3841434
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   12288 Dec 21  2004 video_ts.bup
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   12288 Dec 21  2004 video_ts.ifo
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 3016704 Dec 21  2004 video_ts.vob
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   90112 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_0.bup
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   90112 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_0.ifo
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 7192576 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_0.vob
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1073739776 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_1.vob
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1073739776 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_2.vob
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1073739776 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_3.vob
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   701995008 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_4.vob
/cdrom/video_ts # md5 *
MD5 (video_ts.bup) = 7c22ee5d3160bc66158b13033ab3f87b
MD5 (video_ts.ifo) = 7c22ee5d3160bc66158b13033ab3f87b
md5: video_ts.vob: Input/output error
MD5 (vts_01_0.bup) = 21acaafc3988d8a296881c878865a7d1
MD5 (vts_01_0.ifo) = 21acaafc3988d8a296881c878865a7d1
md5: vts_01_0.vob: Input/output error
md5: vts_01_1.vob: Input/output error
md5: vts_01_2.vob: Input/output error
md5: vts_01_3.vob: Input/output error
md5: vts_01_4.vob: Input/output error

and for each file dmesg says
acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x6f ascq=0x03
g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=5834752, length=65536)]error = 5

Is this a case of some kind of DRM protection I'm seeing here?
Am I missing something else? The drive is a
acd0: DVDR HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22LS50/TL00 at ata8-master SATA150
(LG GH22) on a Asus P5Q3 Deluxe with Intel P45/ICH10R chipset.

Regards,

Jens
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Re: Newbie gmirror questions

2010-01-17 Thread Matthew Seaman

Mike Clarke wrote:

On Sunday 17 January 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote:


Mike Clarke wrote:

Actually I was more concerned about what happens when I boot into
another OS like Windows or Linux on one of the spare slices - I'm
assuming that I have to apply gmirror to the whole disk rather than
just selected slices?

You can't do this.  gmirror is FreeBSD specific, and other OSes can't
deal with it.  You can take your two drives, partition them (fdisk)
and then create a gmirror across the slices you assign to FreeBSD.


This will make things a lot easier for me. I think all the examples of 
gmirror I've seen used things like /dev/da0 as the provider in label 
commands so I assumed that I had to use the whole physical disk but if 
I can mirror individual slices then I have much more flexibility.


My motherboard has a UDMA133 controller for ata0  ata1 (which I don't 
use) and 2 SATA controllers for ata2 to ata5 so with my 2 SATA drives 
spread between the controllers on channels 2  4 I could have something 
like /dev/mirror/gm1 provided by /dev/ad2s1  /dev/ad4s1 
and /dev/mirror/gm2 provided by /dev/ad2s2  /dev/ad4s2 for a couple of 
FreeBSD systems. That will leave me with 2 spare slices on each drive 
for other purposes. Any Windows or Linux stuff I put on tends to be 
mainly experimental and less long term than my FreeBSD system so don't 
really need the resilience of being mirrored.




Yes -- there's an On-Lamp article by Dru Lavigne that has been particularly
influential, and gmirror'ing whole disks is the best way forwards for the
vast majority of cases where you've a server dedicated to one OS.

However, one of the really amazingly brilliant things about geom is that
just about any disk / storage related thing can be a geom provider, and 
geom constructs will nest very happily.  Here's a howto for setting up

gmirror across a pair of slices:

http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/

It's fairly old now, but the essentials are still correct.  The one thing
that has changed in the intervening time is what is the best algorithm
to use for the gmirror.  Up until the release of 8.0, 'round-robin' was 
virtually always the right choice, but nowadays 'load' is preferred.

All that means, is change the following line in rse's article from:

gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin ${gm} /dev/${d2}s1

to

gmirror label -v -n -b load ${gm} /dev/${d2}s1


Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Newbie gmirror questions

2010-01-17 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

On 17.01.2010 19:18, Matthew Seaman wrote:

Mike Clarke wrote:


Actually I was more concerned about what happens when I boot into
another OS like Windows or Linux on one of the spare slices - I'm
assuming that I have to apply gmirror to the whole disk rather than
just selected slices?


You can't do this. gmirror is FreeBSD specific, and other OSes can't
deal with it. You can take your two drives, partition them (fdisk) and
then create a gmirror across the slices you assign to FreeBSD. Similarly
you could set up md to mirror the slice(s) used for Linux. As far as I
know, Windows doesn't come with OS level mirroring software -- it can use
hostraid[*], or I believe there are some commercial solutions you can
purchase. Or just treat your Windows partitions as two separate drives,
and live without resilience for that OS.


I can correct you here. XP Pro and later do know about 'dynamic' disks 
and they can make mirrors from them. Booting from such disks is a kind 
pain in the ass but it works for RAID0, RAID1, RAID0+1 and RAID5 setup.


I can be wrong, I'm not a Win-fan, I just do know this exists. You can 
find details here:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/816307

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Re: Running PHP File under Crontab...

2010-01-17 Thread mikel king
There are a couple of ways. My prefrence is to control the output  
directly from the app in PHP. However you should be able to pipe the  
output to a file without issue.


Cheers,
m!

On Jan 17, 2010, at 15:48, Diego Montalvo dmonta...@gmail.com wrote:


One other question,  is there a way to copy the ouput of the crontab
php file to another file?

Simply the hello world output and not the ?php? code... ??

2010/1/17 mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com:


On Jan 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:


I am using ?php #!/bin/sh ?

2010/1/17 mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com:


On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Diego Montalvo wrote:

CLI meaning, if I can run and excute ?php echo 'hello world';?  
in
command line,  a php file can run in crontab?  doing the  
following in

shell: # php helloworld.php - hello world is produced...

Thanks!





ok then do you have #!/usr/local/bin/php as your first line of the
script?
Or are you using the bash exec command to run the code in your  
shell

script?

Also you can try placing the path to the php CLI executable in the
crontab.



If your php executable is in /usr/local/bin then replace /bin/sh  
with that

in your script file.

#!/usr/local/bin/php

?php

   echo Hello cruel world!!!\n;

?

Remember to chmod +x the script file.

m!



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Re: OOo question.....

2010-01-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:41:16AM +, Mike Clarke wrote:
 On Sunday 17 January 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:27:59AM +, Mike Clarke wrote:
   On Saturday 16 January 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
Second q is howto use them for my desktop backgrounds in KDE
since, upon rebuild and relaunch, everything is black.   the
first question is howto save a separate image?  or are there
other tools to do this? [neither xv nor gv work]
  
   Right click on a blank piece of the KDE desktop and select
   Configure Desktop. This should open with the Change the
   background settings icon highlighted. In the Background section
   click the Picture radio button and click the folder icon on the
   right to browse to your selected image.
 
  (Several hours later).
 
  I found the place and added three 'wallpapers'; they haven't
  appeared. Probably will after I've rebooted.
 
 The new wallpaper should appear immediately after you click on OK 
 or Apply.


hmmm. nope, nada. I can work without pretty pix on my workspaces :-)

 
  ---I see that my newest KDE is 3.5.10.
 
 That's what I'm using.
 
  Sometime this year I'll try KDE4 again.--   
 
 When I upgraded to FreeBSD 8.0 about a month ago I let sysinstall put 
 KDE4 on me. Big mistake [1]. I disliked it intensely and, after a few 
 days trying to come to terms with it, I reverted back to 3.5.10. YMMV 
 but for me it was just too clumsy and bloated with a lot of new 
 superfluous eye candy and lacked some simple and useful features that 
 I'd become accustomed to. Given time perhaps I could have configured it 
 to my liking but I couldn't see it offering anything useful that I 
 didn't already have with 3.5 so it didn't seem worth the effort of 
 continuing with it.
 
 [1] I suspect that my badly managed effort of deinstalling all of KDE4 
 and installing KDE3 was the main cause of the problems described in my 
 recent thread Problems building en-openoffice.org-GB-3.1.1 from ports 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-January/210421.html
  
 which resulted in me having to remove and reinstall all my ports.
 

Thanks for your input.  I had similar problems with rel 4; plus some
things simply quit working.  I'll hold off awhile yet.


 -- 
 Mike Clarke

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Re: Problem viewing DVDs

2010-01-17 Thread cpghost
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:13:55PM +0100, Jens Schweikhardt wrote:
 hello, world\n

Hi Jens,

 I'm trying to view a Friends DVD (original) on my 8-Current system
 but none of the dvd viewer apps (eg. ogle and mplayer) work.
 Investigating I found that I can mount the DVD as a cd9660 file
 system, but all the *.vob files result in an I/O error when read,
 while all the non-vobs can be read just fine:
 
 /cdrom/video_ts # ls -l
 total 3841434
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   12288 Dec 21  2004 video_ts.bup
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   12288 Dec 21  2004 video_ts.ifo
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 3016704 Dec 21  2004 video_ts.vob
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   90112 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_0.bup
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   90112 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_0.ifo
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 7192576 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_0.vob
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1073739776 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_1.vob
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1073739776 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_2.vob
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1073739776 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_3.vob
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   701995008 Dec 21  2004 vts_01_4.vob
 /cdrom/video_ts # md5 *
 MD5 (video_ts.bup) = 7c22ee5d3160bc66158b13033ab3f87b
 MD5 (video_ts.ifo) = 7c22ee5d3160bc66158b13033ab3f87b
 md5: video_ts.vob: Input/output error
 MD5 (vts_01_0.bup) = 21acaafc3988d8a296881c878865a7d1
 MD5 (vts_01_0.ifo) = 21acaafc3988d8a296881c878865a7d1
 md5: vts_01_0.vob: Input/output error
 md5: vts_01_1.vob: Input/output error
 md5: vts_01_2.vob: Input/output error
 md5: vts_01_3.vob: Input/output error
 md5: vts_01_4.vob: Input/output error
 
 and for each file dmesg says
 acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x6f ascq=0x03
 g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=5834752, length=65536)]error = 5
 
 Is this a case of some kind of DRM protection I'm seeing here?
 Am I missing something else? The drive is a
 acd0: DVDR HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22LS50/TL00 at ata8-master SATA150
 (LG GH22) on a Asus P5Q3 Deluxe with Intel P45/ICH10R chipset.

this usually happens with CSS scrambled VOBs. Have you tried to
extract the VOBs with sysutils/vobcopy (e.g. using its --mirror option)?
Just make sure that multimedia/libdvdread is actually compiled with
multimedia/libdvdcss as a dependency, before compiling vobcopy.
The ports should take care of that though.

You may still see acd failures in dmesg using vobcopy (no idea why),
but the copied VOBs should still be okay. I have no problems viewing
them with mplayer.

 Regards,
 
 Jens
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Good luck,
-cpghost.

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curses init in one line?

2010-01-17 Thread Gary Kline

this is going to sound a bit off the wall, and it may have only worked
in FBSD [if I wasn't imagining it], but is there a way to get into 
curses/ncurses mode in one short line?  it has been years but I think
somebody sent me the magic code, for either a shell scrippt or a C
program.  

I do not have it anywhere in my C files.  

gary

PS: no, I am not sloshed [*hic*]


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