Re: ttyu0 link down

2010-04-06 Thread Sabine Baer
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:59:15PM -0500, Jay Hall wrote: [...] Using cu -l /dev/ttyu0 I receive a message stating link down. ^ Shouldn't that be /dev/cua0 instead? $ less /etc/ttys|grep mgetty cuau0 /usr/local/sbin/mgettyunknown on insecure Sabine --

Re: Finding port dependants

2010-04-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2010 02:04:16, Aiza wrote: The ports make file tree is so very large now a days (21491 ports). Doing portsnap to download the complete ports system just to install 3 ports is massive over kill. I have been doing package installs because

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2010 02:55:44, Chad Perrin wrote: 3. lazy evaluation, where the (result) is not evaluated until it is needed, which gives the interpreter plenty of time to notice there's an unless immediately following it Obviously, the

Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset)

2010-04-06 Thread perryh
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: One fairly well-known super computer class architecture from the mid 1960s ran without *any* error checking in the CPU *or* main memory. Dr. Seymour Cray analyzed things and concluded the significant extra component count for just doing 'parity'

Re: Sendmail Five Second Greeting Delay

2010-04-06 Thread Scott Bennett
On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:46:24 -0400 Jon Radel j...@radel.com wrote: On 4/2/10 11:49 AM, David Allen wrote: On 4/2/10, Jon Radelj...@radel.com wrote: On 4/2/10 8:33 AM, David Allen wrote: [much stuff deleted --SB] Interesting reading. Thanks for elaborating. So the IDENT protocol

Re: install.cfg for Documentation Installation Menu on 8.0-RELEASE

2010-04-06 Thread don Juan
thank you, thenk you, thank you :) On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ross we...@connection.ca wrote: dJ What come up with 8.0-RELEASE is the new FreeBSD dJ Documentation Installation Menu in sysinstall. I would like to know dJ what command for install.cfg to configure my installation with, say,

Re: ttyu0 link down

2010-04-06 Thread Jay Hall
On Apr 6, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Sabine Baer wrote: Using cu -l /dev/ttyu0 I receive a message stating link down. ^ Shouldn't that be /dev/cua0 instead? $ less /etc/ttys|grep mgetty cuau0 /usr/local/sbin/mgettyunknown on insecure Sabine -- Good fences make

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread RW
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not to copy - a test shouldn't come after a block of code unless it's evaluated after the block

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
RW == RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes: RW Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by RW action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try to RW subvert that. And yet, there's an equally valid argument that the most important thing should stand out

Re: csup vs cvs

2010-04-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
d...@safeport.com writes: Yesterday I was updating an 8.0 stable system to pick up a change I specifically needed. The change was MFC'd Apr 4th at 11:38. I waited until about 8PM and ran cvs from cvsup2.FreeBSD.org. When the change was not there, I waited until Apr 5th, a bit after midnight.

RootBSD?

2010-04-06 Thread Tom Ierna
Hi, Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? I'm looking to move an office-hosted machine's services to the cloud, and they seem to be one of the only VPS companies centered around BSD support instead of Linux. Thanks, -Tom___

Re: RootBSD?

2010-04-06 Thread Glen Barber
Hi Tom, Tom Ierna wrote: Hi, Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you nothing but positive feedback - however, your question isn't exactly specific. Is there anything in particular you need to know? -- Glen Barber

Re: RootBSD?

2010-04-06 Thread Tom Ierna
On Apr 6, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Glen Barber wrote: Hi Tom, Tom Ierna wrote: Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you nothing but positive feedback - however, your question isn't exactly specific. Is there anything in

Re: RootBSD?

2010-04-06 Thread Craig Butler
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 09:31 -0400, Glen Barber wrote: Hi Tom, Tom Ierna wrote: Hi, Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you nothing but positive feedback - however, your question isn't exactly specific. Is

Re: Finding port dependants

2010-04-06 Thread Craig Whipp
On Mon, April 5, 2010 7:04 pm, Aiza wrote: The ports make file tree is so very large now a days (21491 ports). Doing portsnap to download the complete ports system just to install 3 ports is massive over kill. I have been doing package installs because the resources consumed in disk space

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-06 Thread Peter Steele
If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there. What incidentally does /var get populated with? Our

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:01:53 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: thanks for your url as well and the others to posted. but it seems like overkill since i dont need any explicit option or argument. i just need the script to tell me whether i have an arg or not. following is something

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Giorgos == Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr writes: Giorgos This means you can write your sh version like this in Perl: Giorgos #!/usr/bin/perl Giorgos if (int(@ARGV) == 0) { Giorgos die No args; at least one filename expected; Giorgos } Giorgos printf(%s\n,

Re: RootBSD?

2010-04-06 Thread Outback Dingo
Highly recommended. great systems great service... great prices On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Craig Butler craig...@lerwick.hopto.orgwrote: On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 09:31 -0400, Glen Barber wrote: Hi Tom, Tom Ierna wrote: Hi, Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net?

Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot

2010-04-06 Thread Tim Daneliuk
I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like this: //u...@winserver/SHARE /mountpointsmbfs rw 0 0 The problem is that after an outage, WINSERVER doesn't come up before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD machine tries to boot and then hangs

Re: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot

2010-04-06 Thread Glen Barber
Hi Tim, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like this: //u...@winserver/SHARE /mountpointsmbfs rw 0 0 The problem is that after an outage, WINSERVER doesn't come up before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD

Re: csup vs cvs

2010-04-06 Thread doug
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Lowell Gilbert wrote: d...@safeport.com writes: Yesterday I was updating an 8.0 stable system to pick up a change I specifically needed. The change was MFC'd Apr 4th at 11:38. I waited until about 8PM and ran cvs from cvsup2.FreeBSD.org. When the change was not there, I

Re: example C code for reading db hash files

2010-04-06 Thread Jim Sander
On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:51 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: /usr/src/lib/libc/db/README This is version 1.85 of the Berkeley DB code. I apologize for being imprecise in my original question. What you've provided is enough to give me progress. I think /usr/src/lib/libc/db/ tests/hash.tests will at

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi-- On Apr 6, 2010, at 6:21 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: RW == RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes: RW Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by RW action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try to RW subvert that. And yet, there's an

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Chuck == Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com writes: Chuck Let's suppose you want to display one message if debugging is Chuck enabled, and a shorter message if it is not. Then you wouldn't have used this construct. If you don't like all this freedom, there's always Python. :) Chuck Yes, Perl lets

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Chuck == Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com writes: Chuck Let's suppose you want to display one message if debugging is Chuck enabled, and a shorter message if it is not. Then you wouldn't have used this construct. If the construct isn't a

RE: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot

2010-04-06 Thread Dan Naumov
I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like this: //USER at WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpointsmbfs rw 0 0 The problem is that after an outage, WINSERVER doesn't come up before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD machine tries to boot and then hangs

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Chuck == Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com writes: Then you wouldn't have used this construct. Chuck If the construct isn't a good idea considering the most obvious Chuck change one might make to the code, Objection: presumes facts not in evidence, your honor. Seriously, I've written thousands

Re: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot

2010-04-06 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 4/6/2010 1:36 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like this: //USER at WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpointsmbfs rw 0 0 The problem is that after an outage, WINSERVER doesn't come up before the FBSD machine. So, the

Re: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot

2010-04-06 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 4/6/2010 1:50 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 4/6/2010 1:36 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like this: //USER at WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpointsmbfs rw 0 0 The problem is that after an outage, WINSERVER doesn't

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Chuck == Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com writes: Then you wouldn't have used this construct. Chuck If the construct isn't a good idea considering the most obvious Chuck change one might make to the code, Objection: presumes facts not in

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Chuck == Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com writes: Chuck Very well; I would like to hear you propose another type of Chuck change that might be made to this sort of postfix test syntax Chuck which you consider to be most likely. Maybe the content of the text message. I change that stuff all the

Building for polkit-0.96_1 fails

2010-04-06 Thread Michel Seliverstoff
Hello, I'm having difficulties updating polkit. I read the ports/updating and did portupgrade -f policykit first. unfortunatelly it didn't help. Would anyone have a tip to share. Thanks, Michel gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.96/src/polkit' CC

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-06 Thread Tim Judd
On 4/6/10, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there.

bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail

2010-04-06 Thread Dan Naumov
So, I want the basejail to only contain the world and link the ports tree from the host into each individual jail when it's time to update the ports inside them, but I am running into a bit of a bizarre issue: I can mount_nullfs /usr/ports elsewhere on the host just fine, but it doesn't work if I

Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail

2010-04-06 Thread Glen Barber
Hi Dan, Dan Naumov wrote: So, I want the basejail to only contain the world and link the ports tree from the host into each individual jail when it's time to update the ports inside them, but I am running into a bit of a bizarre issue: I can mount_nullfs /usr/ports elsewhere on the host just

Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail

2010-04-06 Thread Dan Naumov
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, Dan Naumov wrote: So, I want the basejail to only contain the world and link the ports tree from the host into each individual jail when it's time to update the ports inside them, but I am running into a bit

Re: RootBSD?

2010-04-06 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010, Tom Ierna wrote: Hi, Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? I'm looking to move an office-hosted machine's services to the cloud, and they seem to be one of the only VPS companies centered around BSD support instead of Linux. I just setup a small VPS with

Interrupt ptr 12h?

2010-04-06 Thread Axel Schmalowsky
Hello list, sometimes my system freezes, and I cannot figure out why. What I do know is that everytime I try to build openoffice, it freezes during the build process. Last time my system froze, the kernel spat out the following message: kerneltrap with interrupt ptr 12h disabled. What does this

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.04.06 17:10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) ok, ok. I was on the side of Perl, and was content following this thread, but now I don't like you anymore :P heh ;) Steve ___

Re: RootBSD?

2010-04-06 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Tom Ierna t...@shockergroup.com wrote: On Apr 6, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Glen Barber wrote: Hi Tom, Tom Ierna wrote: Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you nothing but positive feedback -

Re: RootBSD?

2010-04-06 Thread RJ
On 4/6/2010 9:04 AM, Tom Ierna wrote: Hi, Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? I'm looking to move an office-hosted machine's services to the cloud, and they seem to be one of the only VPS companies centered around BSD support instead of Linux. Thanks,

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 06:17:41PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.04.06 17:10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) ok, ok. I was on the side of Perl, and was content following this thread, but now I don't like you anymore :P heh ;)

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not to copy - a test shouldn't come after

Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail

2010-04-06 Thread Mars G Miro
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, Dan Naumov wrote: So, I want the basejail to only contain the world and link the ports tree from the host into each individual jail when

Can freebsd be installed on a new mac pro 8 core machine ?

2010-04-06 Thread Wayne Burkart
Hello, I have a new Mac Pro 8 core desktop machine. I want to install an os that will let me install Cpanel and whm so I can use it as a server. Will FreeBsd install on the new intell based pro macs ? Pleasea advise. Thank you for your time, Wayne

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-06 Thread Peter Steele
What incidentally does /var get populated with? Our image has a custom directory under /var but this did not show up in the MFS versions of this directory. I can get around this but I wonder what else might not be included? I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks