Custom kernel & atheros

2010-04-09 Thread harvey dent
hi everybody
I try to make a custom kernel (for a "emachines" notebook), but i always get
this same error or a similar (dependent of choosing ath_hal or for example
ath_rf2425):

*ar2425.o(.text+0x582): In function
`ar2425RfAttach':

/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:691: undefined reference to
`ath_hal_malloc'

ar2425.o(.text+0x5d4):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:705:
undefined reference to
`ar5212GetNfAdjust'
ar2425.o(.text+0x614): In function
`ar2425RfDetach':

/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:674: undefined reference to
`ath_hal_free'

ar2425.o(.text+0x6fd): In function `ar2425SetRfRegs':
/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:193: undefined reference to
`ar5212ModifyRfBuffer'
ar2425.o(.text+0x725):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:194:
undefined reference to `ar5212ModifyRfBuffer'
ar2425.o(.text+0xa84): In function `ar2425SetChannel':
/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:99: undefined reference to
`ath_hal_reverseBits'
ar2425.o(.text+0xb4c):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:113:
undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits'
ar2425.o(.text+0xb62):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:115:
undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits'
ar2425.o(.text+0xbba):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:117:
undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits'
ar2425.o(.text+0xbd0):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:119:
undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits'
ar2425.o(.text+0xc21):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:121: more
undefined references to `ath_hal_reverseBits' follow
sample.o(.text+0x404): In function `ath_rate_sysctl_stats':
/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:916: undefined reference to
`ieee80211_iterate_nodes'
sample.o(.text+0x539): In function `calc_usecs_unicast_packet':
/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.h:236: undefined reference to
`ath_hal_computetxtime'
sample.o(.text+0x5b5):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.h:246:
undefined reference to `ath_hal_computetxtime'
sample.o(.text+0x745): In function `ath_rate_newassoc':
/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:771: undefined reference to
`ieee80211_note_mac'
sample.o(.text+0x7ea):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:801:
undefined reference to `ieee80211_note'
sample.o(.text+0xcec): In function `update_stats':
/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:530: undefined reference to
`ieee80211_note_mac'
sample.o(.text+0x1040): In function `ath_rate_findrate':
/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:273: undefined reference to
`ieee80211_note_mac'
sample.o(.text+0x1216):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:316:
undefined reference to `ieee80211_note_mac'
sample.o(.text+0x160c): In function `ath_rate_tx_complete':
/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:572: undefined reference to
`ieee80211_note_mac'
sample.o(.text+0x16e3):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:590:
undefined reference to `ieee80211_note_mac'
sample.o(.text+0x18bc):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:636:
more undefined references to `ieee80211_note_mac' follow
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSD1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.*

I ran "config", and no problem were find.
When I build a GENERIC kernel, there's no any problem.

Here the uname -a:
*FreeBSD pcbsd-8040 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Tue Jan  5
16:02:27 UTC 2010
r...@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
i386
*
Here the kernel config file:

*#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the config(5) manual page,
# and/or the handbook section on Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#
http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files.
# If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
# in NOTES.
#
# $FreeBSD$

cpuI686_CPU
identPCBSD1

# To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints
#hints"GENERIC.hints"# Default places to look for devices.

# Use the following to compile in values accessible to the kernel
# through getenv() (or kenv(1) in userland). The format of the file
# is 'variable=value', see kenv(1)
#
# env"GENERIC.env"

makeoptionsDEBUG=-g# Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

options SCHED_ULE# ULE scheduler
options PREEMPTION# Enable kernel thread preemption
options INET# InterNETworking
options INET6# IPv6 communications proto

Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 21:04, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> Programmer In Training  wrote:
> 
>> I'm thinking I'm just going to wait until Tuesday and get a brand
>> new pair of wall-powered speakers. This hassle is NOT worth it ...
> 
> If "speakers on USB 2.0 card, all else on 1.x builtins" doesn't

What I don't get is that the speakers work no matter what I hook it up
to. 1.x builtins (they were recognized as 1.x by Windows, I assume they
still are seeing as how they cannot be upgraded) or 2.0 card. And no
matter what I hook up the speakers too, it messes with the keyboard,
though I had not tried to put the keyboard and mouse back on the 1.x
builtins (don't really need 2.0 speed for such devices) as they were
starting to act up on them.

> work, you might want to try a power adapter that has a USB host
> connector.  (I've seen such at Fry's, intended for devices like
> iPods that were designed to recharge their internal batteries
> from a USB port.)  This would effectively convert your current
> set to wall-powered, which might be less costly than a new set.

Perhaps, but I've been wanting a new set for a while now. The set I had
before this one was old when I got them. Last new set I had was from
Creative. Two full range satellites with a 6 1/2" omni-directional
sub-woofer for about $80; unfortunately that was ages ago. I miss them
(the satellite's died before the sub).

> WRT the suggestion to hack something together, I wouldn't suggest
> attempting it unless you're quite sure of what would be involved.

I'm fairly certain solder (rosin-core as acid-core would corrode the
contacts), electrical tape and a few prayers that I avoid the below
stated consequences (seriously, there is a +5 and +12 on my motherboard?
man I am seriously under-utilizing this thing).

> It wouldn't be exactly difficult, but getting something backwards
> -- or connecting to the +12 instead of the +5 supply -- would at
> least let all the magic blue smoke out of the speakers :)

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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread perryh
Programmer In Training  wrote:

> I'm thinking I'm just going to wait until Tuesday and get a brand
> new pair of wall-powered speakers. This hassle is NOT worth it ...

If "speakers on USB 2.0 card, all else on 1.x builtins" doesn't
work, you might want to try a power adapter that has a USB host
connector.  (I've seen such at Fry's, intended for devices like
iPods that were designed to recharge their internal batteries
from a USB port.)  This would effectively convert your current
set to wall-powered, which might be less costly than a new set.

WRT the suggestion to hack something together, I wouldn't suggest
attempting it unless you're quite sure of what would be involved.
It wouldn't be exactly difficult, but getting something backwards
-- or connecting to the +12 instead of the +5 supply -- would at
least let all the magic blue smoke out of the speakers :)
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Re: Kernel Config for NAT

2010-04-09 Thread perryh
Ian Smith  wrote:
>  > >  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html
> 
> This is absolutely the worst section of an otherwise great
> handbook ...  Nothing short of a rewrite from scratch could
> fix it ...

As always, I'm sure a patch -- to provide that rewrite --
would be welcome.
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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 19:58, mikel king wrote:

> Out of curiosity, have you tried an active USB 2.0 HUB to buffer the
> speakers from the computer's USB ports? Or even a AC to USB adapter?


I don't have one of either of those items. I only have a passive 2.0 HUB
(at least I think it's 2.0). Either way, looks as if there is a trip to
the store and/or the website for my mobo manufacturer and a trip into
the shed to find my EET books.

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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread mikel king


On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Programmer In Training wrote:


On 04/09/10 18:31, Chris Whitehouse wrote:


Unless you insist on an operating system solution what you are really
after is a 5 volt supply. What about buying a mains USB charger of  
the

right capacity, or if you are handy with bits of wire have a look


I wouldn't know where to look for one.

through all those old power supplies for a 5 volt one? Or even use  
the 5

volt supply from inside your computer (if it is a desktop not laptop)

Chris


It is a desktop. There is a 5V supply in there?!

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Out of curiosity, have you tried an active USB 2.0 HUB to buffer the  
speakers from the computer's USB ports? Or even a AC to USB adapter?



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LSI MegaRAID SAS 9211-8i on FreeBSD 8/9?

2010-04-09 Thread O. Hartmann
I'd like to build a new Workstation based on Intels 'Gulftown' for some 
numerical modelling purposes. Since I realised that on our Dell 
Poweredge Server with built-in Fusion MPT RAID/JBOD controller even 
attached SATA 3 GB hard disks seem to be 'faster' than on most Intel 
ICH9/ICH10 machines we also utilise with FreeBSD 8/amd64, I'd like to 
have a replacement SAS 2.0 controller like the LSI MegaRAID SAS 9211-8. 
I do not know much about this controller. I don't want to wait for 
native SATA 6Gb on Intel chipsets since this is announce for next year 
and I feel better being 'back to the roots' with SCSI/SAS 2 on FreeBSD.


Are there any contraints on this above mentioned LSI SAS 2.0 controller 
execpt lacking RAID 5/6 level (it should be an replacement for the ICH10 
so far for 7 or 8 hard disks/SSDs)?


Any comment would be appreciated (please set CC to my email since I do 
not subscribe the questions-list).


Thanks in advance,

O. Hartmann
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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 18:31, Chris Whitehouse wrote:

> Unless you insist on an operating system solution what you are really
> after is a 5 volt supply. What about buying a mains USB charger of the
> right capacity, or if you are handy with bits of wire have a look

I wouldn't know where to look for one.

> through all those old power supplies for a 5 volt one? Or even use the 5
> volt supply from inside your computer (if it is a desktop not laptop)
> 
> Chris

It is a desktop. There is a 5V supply in there?!

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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Programmer In Training wrote:


I really don't know where to look for this. I've never even heard of USB
powered speakers until I got these (no, I don't pay much attention to
what's available unless I have a great need for it). I'm thinking I'm
just going to wait until Tuesday and get a brand new pair of
wall-powered speakers. This hassle is NOT worth it (they put out decent
sound).



Unless you insist on an operating system solution what you are really 
after is a 5 volt supply. What about buying a mains USB charger of the 
right capacity, or if you are handy with bits of wire have a look 
through all those old power supplies for a 5 volt one? Or even use the 5 
volt supply from inside your computer (if it is a desktop not laptop)


Chris
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Re: perl links

2010-04-09 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:14:48AM +0800, Aiza wrote:
> When installing perl i see 2 links between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin. 
> Is this still required or is it something left over from when perl was 
> part of the base system?
> 
> symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl
> symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl5

It is still required (at least the first one.)  It is there to be
compatible with a very large number of existing Perl scripts which
assume that the Perl interpreter can be found as /usr/bin/perl 

This has nothing do to with when Perl was part of the base system - it
is a Perl convention which was established before FreeBSD (or Linux for
that matter) even existed.




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Re: perl links

2010-04-09 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Aiza wrote:
> When installing perl i see 2 links between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin. Is 
> this still required or is it something left over from when perl was part of 
> the base system?
> 
> symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl
> symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl5

This is to compensate for Perl scripts which assume they know where the path to 
the interpreter is, rather than using env

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perl links

2010-04-09 Thread Aiza
When installing perl i see 2 links between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin. 
Is this still required or is it something left over from when perl was 
part of the base system?


symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl
symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl5
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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 15:24, Warren Block wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Programmer In Training wrote:
> 
>> On 04/09/10 10:15, Brodey Dover wrote:
>>> "Apr  8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1624: getting device
>>> descriptor at addr 3 failed, USB_ERR_IOERROR!"
>>>
>>> exactly! That is what is causing the issues. From what I can see, it
>>> is like it was explained before. The OS has chosen to play nice and
>>> request that the speakers are disabled.
>>>
>>> The power requirements will not affect the system until the speakers
>>> are producing sound. In other words, the system will only draw UP to
>>> the power input rating while in operation. At idle, I'd wager they may
>>> only use 1/10 of its power rating for the idle ICs and a power LED.
> 
> Just to add:
> 
> When you plug in a USB device, it is a "low power" device (single unit
> load, 100 mA) by default.
> 
> If that device wants to draw more power, it has to request high power (5
> unit loads) from the hub.  The hub can provide that power, or shut down
> the port.

I never knew that about USB ports.

>> Only it's not the speakers that have their operation interrupted, JUST
>> the keyboard (not even the mouse is affected).
> 
> Guesses:
> 
> Total power budget (but FIFO?).

I don't get that. Do you mean total power allocated to USB?

> Speaker/keyboard USB ports are on the same internal hub.

I'm not sure what you mean here. I've put the speakers on the internal,
builtin USB ports (1.x) and they work fine except keyboard starts
flaking out. I put them on the USB expansion card (which mouse and
keyboard are on because they were starting to flake out on the builtins)
with the same exact behavior.

> High-power OLED keyboard (my eyes!).

Keyboard label (if it is to be believed) is +5V 100mA. It's just a
standard keyboard with some extra multimedia keys that aren't active (a
pity, too).

> Speakers labelled 500 mA but really only a low-power USB device.

Than they shouldn't be messing with the keyboard, right?

It usually takes about an hour or so for the keyboard to settle down to
a usable state (until then, I'm doing a lot of mousing as the keyboard
is near useless).

I really don't know where to look for this. I've never even heard of USB
powered speakers until I got these (no, I don't pay much attention to
what's available unless I have a great need for it). I'm thinking I'm
just going to wait until Tuesday and get a brand new pair of
wall-powered speakers. This hassle is NOT worth it (they put out decent
sound).

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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Programmer In Training wrote:


On 04/09/10 10:15, Brodey Dover wrote:

"Apr  8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1624: getting device
descriptor at addr 3 failed, USB_ERR_IOERROR!"

exactly! That is what is causing the issues. From what I can see, it
is like it was explained before. The OS has chosen to play nice and
request that the speakers are disabled.

The power requirements will not affect the system until the speakers
are producing sound. In other words, the system will only draw UP to
the power input rating while in operation. At idle, I'd wager they may
only use 1/10 of its power rating for the idle ICs and a power LED.


Just to add:

When you plug in a USB device, it is a "low power" device (single unit 
load, 100 mA) by default.


If that device wants to draw more power, it has to request high power (5 
unit loads) from the hub.  The hub can provide that power, or shut down 
the port.



Only it's not the speakers that have their operation interrupted, JUST
the keyboard (not even the mouse is affected).


Guesses:

Total power budget (but FIFO?).
Speaker/keyboard USB ports are on the same internal hub.
High-power OLED keyboard (my eyes!).
Speakers labelled 500 mA but really only a low-power USB device.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: wdm doesn't start windowing manager.

2010-04-09 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Neil Short  wrote:

> Has anybody had this problem and fixed it?
> wdm runs my ~/.xsession file; but no X-applications run. It just runs past
> them and returns to the  wdm login screen.
>
> Currently I am running xdm; but it's kind of bland and spicing it up
> requires a very steep learning curve.
>

I've had issue with desktop environment in the past with similar behavior.
Usually for me is was a permissions problem, but you should be able to turn
up logging verbosity to figure out where your specific issue is.



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Re: RootBSD?

2010-04-09 Thread Garance A Drosehn

At 9:04 AM -0400 4/6/10, Tom Ierna wrote:

Hi,

Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net?

I'm looking to move an office-hosted machine's services to the 
cloud, and they seem to be one of the only VPS companies centered 
around BSD support instead of Linux.


I've been using them for a few years now.  What I have with them is a 
system which is meant to be used as a "hot backup" for a system which 
is here in my office.  So, the main things I wanted was (1) real 
freebsd systems, (2) which were someplace far away from Troy NY.  I 
wanted to be pretty sure that any problem which took out my main 
system would NOT take out my "hot backup" system!


I've had absolutely no trouble with them.  The few times that I've 
had to contact them, they've been happy to provide whatever help I 
needed.  On the other hand, my main system has been working fine for 
almost three years now, so this backup system that I have at 
rootbsd.net has not seen much activity.  I just rsync the main system 
to the backup system once a day, and then every few months I upgrade 
the FreeBSD that I'm running on the system at rootbsd.net.


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wdm doesn't start windowing manager.

2010-04-09 Thread Neil Short
Has anybody had this problem and fixed it?
wdm runs my ~/.xsession file; but no X-applications run. It just runs past them 
and returns to the  wdm login screen.

Currently I am running xdm; but it's kind of bland and spicing it up requires a 
very steep learning curve.
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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 10:15, Brodey Dover wrote:
> "Apr  8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1624: getting device
> descriptor at addr 3 failed, USB_ERR_IOERROR!"
> 
> exactly! That is what is causing the issues. From what I can see, it
> is like it was explained before. The OS has chosen to play nice and
> request that the speakers are disabled.
> 
> The power requirements will not affect the system until the speakers
> are producing sound. In other words, the system will only draw UP to
> the power input rating while in operation. At idle, I'd wager they may
> only use 1/10 of its power rating for the idle ICs and a power LED.


Only it's not the speakers that have their operation interrupted, JUST
the keyboard (not even the mouse is affected).

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Re: Kernel Config for NAT

2010-04-09 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Robert Huff wrote:
 > Ian Smith writes:
 > 
 > >   >So ... double-checking I'm doing this right:
 > >   > 
 > >   > 1) in /boot/loader.conf:
 > >   > 
 > >   > ipfw_load="YES"
 > >   > ipdivert_load="YES"
 > >  
 > >  I thought from your earlier mail that you wanted to use in-kernel
 > >  NAT?
 > 
 >  I want whatever works.  :-)

natd works, as ever.  ipfw nat is reputed to work faster.

 >  Beyond that ... all other things being more-or-less equal I'll
 > do this with modules.
 >  Let's build that.  So in /etc/sysctl.conf:
 > 
 > net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1"
 > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose="1"
 > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit="100"
 > 
 >  check.
 > 
 > >  I believe all these can be accomplished with modules on GENERIC
 > >  kernel, at least on 8.x, with the exception of FIREWALL_FORWARD
 > >  functionality which does require a custom kernel as it messes
 > >  with lots of ip paths.
 > 
 >  This machine has a custom kernel, so that's not a an issue.
 >  And in /boot/loader.conf:
 > 
 > ipfw_load="YES"
 > ipfw_nat="YES"   # in-kernel ipfw nat
 > libalias="YES"   # for in-kernel ipfw nat

ipfw_nat_load="YES"
libalias_load="YES"

 >  check.
 >  and in the kernel config:
 > 
 > #options  IPFIREWALL  #firewall
 > #options  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE  #enable logging to syslogd(8)
 > 
 > options  IPFIREWALL_FORWARD

Planning on using any 'fwd' rules?

 > #options  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100#limit verbosity
 > #options  IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT#allow everything by default
 > #options  IPDIVERT
 > #options  IPFIREWALL_NAT  #ipfw kernel nat support
 > #options  LIBALIAS   # required for NAT
 > 
 >  check.
 >  This combination will get me a) ipfw, using the standard
 > rc.conf "firewall_" variables, and b) NAT ... do I still need to
 > have a "nat" setting in the firewall rules?

The 'client' ruleset now has rules for either natd or ipfw nat.  The 
'simple' ruleset works with natd (from natd_enable and natd_interface in 
rc.conf), but still lacks the patch for ipfw nat - my remiss for seeking 
comment in ipfw@ rather than sending it with a PR, as one should.

Time I redid it, you can be guinea pig :)  What freebsd version?

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Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-09 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
 wrote:
>> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Imass  writes:
>
> Alejandro> did you mean unless? ;-)
>
> Did you read this:
>
>>> Augh.  I hit send just as I realized that's backwards.  Need
>>> more caffiene.  Swap the true and false blocks there. :)
>

Yeah, but _after_ I had pressed send .
That sparked the comment that unless was a bad idea in C and then all
helll broke loose 

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sendmail && /etc/resolv.conf modified by DHCP

2010-04-09 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

At home I have my WLAN as 192.168.2.0/24. After moving to my office and
rebooting there, I encounter that sendmail receives messages (via
fetchmail) terrible slow. I digged into this and see that the sendmail
issues wrong DNS requests as (for example):

08:51:18.753491 IP xx.xx.xx.xx.49812 > 192.168.2.1.53: 12793+ MX?  
ubuntu.com.Sisis.de. (37)
08:51:18.867365 IP xx.xx.xx.xx.42619 > 192.168.2.1.53: 12793+ MX?  
physik.uni-wuerzburg.de.Sisis.de. (50)
08:51:18.982491 IP xx.xx.xx.xx.52554 > 192.168.2.1.53: 12794+ ?  
lexasoft.ru. (29)
08:51:19.095490 IP xx.xx.xx.xx.10093 > 192.168.2.1.53: 12794+ ?  des.no. 
(24)

The reason is obvious: 
- the /etc/resolv.conf on shutdown at home has this DNS resolver;
- in my office the system comes up and when at some point the WLAN
  interface associates, it gets an IP and a new /etc/resolv.conf file;

Why sendmail does not honour the new /etc/resolv.conf and stays with the
old DNS server IP? How this is supposed to fix? An idea would be to
restart sendmail via a devd hook, but maybe there is some config values
for sendmail that it always check /etc/resolv.conf for fresh?

Thx

matthias

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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 06:25, Warren Block wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> 
>> Programmer In Training  wrote:
>>
>>> ... they are only attached for power purposes ...
>>
>>> Input power: DC 5V 500mA
>>
>> Any chance these speakers need a USB 2.0 port, and all the ports
>> on your FreeBSD box are 1.x?  I don't remember the USB power spec
>> offhand, but 2.5W may exceed what a USB 1.x port can supply --
>> a limit that applies regardless of the system's overall power
>> provisioning.
> 
> 500 mA is 5 unit loads for USB 2.0, or powered hub territory.  The
> device has to request that high power mode, and the system can say no
> and disable the port.  That should show in /var/log/messages.


The following messages so far haven't shown up today.

Apr  8 22:30:01 heaven root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x046e product
0x5542 bus uhub4
Apr  8 22:30:01 heaven kernel: uhid0:  on usbus4
Apr  8 22:30:01 heaven kernel: uhub_explore:611: illegal enable change,
port 3
Apr  8 22:30:15 heaven kernel: ugen4.3:  at usbus4
(disconnected)
Apr  8 22:30:15 heaven kernel: ukbd0: at uhub4, port 3, addr 3
(disconnected)
Apr  8 22:30:15 heaven kernel: uhid0: at uhub4, port 3, addr 3
(disconnected)
Apr  8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1586: set address 3
failed (USB_ERR_IOERROR, ignored)
Apr  8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1624: getting device
descriptor at addr 3 failed, USB_ERR_IOERROR!


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Re: Adding a Disk and Changing Mountpoints

2010-04-09 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:44:34 -0500, Programmer In Training 
 wrote:
> Thank you for the detailed response. Without knowing any of that, I
> would have totally messed up. I'll be printing out the email so I have
> it handy on Saturday.

I made a mistake. Please check and correct this in your
hardcopy. In the example for copying the home directories,
I wrote:

# mount -o ro /dev/ad0s1f /usr
# mount -o ro /dev/ad2s1e /home

The second -o ro is wrong, has to be -o rw, because
you're writing to this partition in the next step:

# mount -o ro /dev/ad0s1f /usr
# mount -o rw /dev/ad2s1e /home

The basic idea is to work with least dangerous
permissions, so if you're going to read files from
a partition, -o ro is sufficient. But of course it's
not sufficient for writing. :-)

And for the final /etc/fstab, this is wrong:

/dev/ad0s1d  /tmpufs rw   2  2
/dev/ad0s1e  /scratchufs rw   2  2

It would have to be:

/dev/ad0s1d  /scratchufs rw   2  2
/dev/ad0s1e  /tmpufs rw   2  2

becausse /dev/ad0s1d previously was /var.

In any case, as you're working with maximum privileges
on file systems, pay attention to device names and
directories. Triple-check them. Always.



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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 02:51, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> Programmer In Training  wrote:
> 
>> ... they are only attached for power purposes ...
> 
>> Input power: DC 5V 500mA
> 
> Any chance these speakers need a USB 2.0 port, and all the ports

The expansion card is 2.0

> on your FreeBSD box are 1.x?  I don't remember the USB power spec
> offhand, but 2.5W may exceed what a USB 1.x port can supply --
> a limit that applies regardless of the system's overall power
> provisioning.

That would explain why the sound was so small on my parents computer.
All they have is 1.x
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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 02:17, Fbsd1 wrote:
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> On 4/8/10, Programmer In Training  wrote:
>>> I have acquired a pair of Compaq USB /powered/ speakers. On my parents
>>> XP machine they don't seem to cause any problems, but when I hook it up
>>> to listen on my FreeBSD box I have absolutely nothing but problems with
>>> the speakers (even when turned off but still plugged in) interrupting
>>> the normal operation of my keyboard (basically it seems that power is
>>> cut to my keyboard at random). I have a beefy power supply (650W) so I
>>> really shouldn't be having any power distribution issues.
>>>
>>> I've tried the speakers in both the on-board USB ports and the USB
>>> expansion card (PCI) with the same results.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
> 
> You really need to explain in detail the problem.

That's as much detail, except for the question below, that I have.

> Without these new speakers plugged in does wall powered speakers work?

Yeah, normal wall speakers work, but I gave those to my mom since these
speakers, even at full blast, only put out a tiny sound on her computer
(normal volume on mine).

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Re: Adding a Disk and Changing Mountpoints

2010-04-09 Thread Programmer In Training
On 04/09/10 00:48, Polytropon wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:38:03 -0500, Programmer In Training 
>  wrote:
>> Saturday I'll be adding a second 40GB and a tertiary 6GB disk to the
>> system (in favor of adding a CD-RW to a system that already has a DVD
>> super multi-format drive). I'd like to rearrange my mount points a bit.
>
> Here we go. :-)


Thank you for the detailed response. Without knowing any of that, I
would have totally messed up. I'll be printing out the email so I have
it handy on Saturday.

Again, thank you!
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Re: Kernel Config for NAT

2010-04-09 Thread Robert Huff

Ian Smith writes:

>   >   So ... double-checking I'm doing this right:
>   > 
>   > 1) in /boot/loader.conf:
>   > 
>   > ipfw_load="YES"
>   > ipdivert_load="YES"
>  
>  I thought from your earlier mail that you wanted to use in-kernel
>  NAT?

I want whatever works.  :-)
Beyond that ... all other things being more-or-less equal I'll
do this with modules.
Let's build that.  So in /etc/sysctl.conf:

net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1"
net.inet.ip.fw.verbose="1"
net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit="100"

check.

>  I believe all these can be accomplished with modules on GENERIC
>  kernel, at least on 8.x, with the exception of FIREWALL_FORWARD
>  functionality which does require a custom kernel as it messes
>  with lots of ip paths.

This machine has a custom kernel, so that's not a an issue.
And in /boot/loader.conf:

ipfw_load="YES"
ipfw_nat="YES"  # in-kernel ipfw nat
libalias="YES"  # for in-kernel ipfw nat

check.
and in the kernel config:

#options  IPFIREWALL  #firewall
#options  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE  #enable logging to syslogd(8)

options  IPFIREWALL_FORWARD

#options  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100#limit verbosity
#options  IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT#allow everything by default
#options  IPDIVERT
#options  IPFIREWALL_NAT  #ipfw kernel nat support
#options  LIBALIAS  # required for NAT

check.
This combination will get me a) ipfw, using the standard
rc.conf "firewall_" variables, and b) NAT ... do I still need to
have a "nat" setting in the firewall rules?

Less confused than last time,


Robert Huff

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Re: gdm background picture missing

2010-04-09 Thread Jian Jun Wang
this solution worked, although it took me a lot of time to download
packages,  thank you so much.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Adam Vande More wrote:

>   On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jian Jun Wang wrote:
>
>> Any suggestion on stepsto solve the problem?
>>
>
> Follow the steps in /usr/ports/UPDATING when you are updating ports.
>
> Another option would be to pkg_delete * and install everything again from
> ports.  There are good instructions for this in the portmaster man page.
>
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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:


Programmer In Training  wrote:


... they are only attached for power purposes ...



Input power: DC 5V 500mA


Any chance these speakers need a USB 2.0 port, and all the ports
on your FreeBSD box are 1.x?  I don't remember the USB power spec
offhand, but 2.5W may exceed what a USB 1.x port can supply --
a limit that applies regardless of the system's overall power
provisioning.


500 mA is 5 unit loads for USB 2.0, or powered hub territory.  The 
device has to request that high power mode, and the system can say no 
and disable the port.  That should show in /var/log/messages.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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SSL / SSH choosing hardware accelerator first

2010-04-09 Thread Pegasus Mc Cleaft
Hello group, 

 

I am currently running FreeBSD 9-Current AMD64. I have a
Hifn crypto accelerator installed in the machine. I have noticed that when I
connect to the machine using SSH, it does not use the crypto hardware. There
was a patch that someone made that forced SSL to use the hardware by
default, but I was wondering if there was a way to do this in
userland/configuration?  It would be nice to have the hardware accelerated
cryptography used as first priority before deciding to use the software
emulated modes. Does anyone know how this can be done?

 

Peg

 

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Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-09 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Imass  writes:

Alejandro> did you mean unless? ;-)

Did you read this:

>> Augh.  I hit send just as I realized that's backwards.  Need
>> more caffiene.  Swap the true and false blocks there. :)

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Re: Kernel Config for NAT

2010-04-09 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 305, Issue 9, Message: 1
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:10:34 -0400 Robert Huff  wrote:
 > Adam Vande More writes:
 > 
 > >  >If compiled into the kernel, there's a set of optional settings
 > >  > (VERBOSE, LOG_LINIT, DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, etc) that can be set there.
 > >  >If using the module, how does one set these?
 > >  >
 > >  Logging is compiled into the modules and there are a few sysctl's.  AFAIK,
 > >  everything else is the same.

There are _lots_ of sysctls, even more recently with SCTP support.

 > >  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html



This is absolutely the worst section of an otherwise great handbook.  
Apart from being way out of date it contains gratuitous deprecation, 
inaccuracies and a large number of plain untruths, was largely written 
by someone who doesn't use (or like) ipfw, and has examples styled to 
duplicate an IPFILTER setup.

Nothing short of a rewrite from scratch could fix it, despite efforts by 
several people to clarify aspects; only quite recently the invalid 'ipfw 
block' command was removed from it.  ipfw(8) is a complete (albeit very
terse) ipfw reference and I thoroughly recommend studying that instead.

Despite what the handbook section says, the sample rules eg the 'simple' 
ruleset in rc.firewall ARE these days suitable for immediate use using 
rc.conf variables, DO include NAT functionality (either with natd or 
ipfw nat) in the _correct_ place in the ruleset, and DO include some 
stateful rules; that and ipfw(8) are certainly a better place to start 
than the dreadful examples afflicting the handbook since some years.


 >  So ... double-checking I'm doing this right:
 > 
 > 1) in /boot/loader.conf:
 > 
 > ipfw_load="YES"
 > ipdivert_load="YES"

I thought from your earlier mail that you wanted to use in-kernel NAT?

If so, rather than divert sockets (using ipfw's divert action) you want:
ipfw_nat_load=YES
libalias_load=YES

 > 2) in the kernel config:
 > 
 > #options  IPFIREWALL  #firewall
 > #options  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE  #enable logging to syslogd(8)
 > #options  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100#limit verbosity
 > #options  IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT#allow everything by default
 > #options  IPDIVERT
 > #options  IPFIREWALL_NAT  #ipfw kernel nat support
 > options  LIBALIAS# required for NAT

I believe all these can be accomplished with modules on GENERIC kernel, 
at least on 8.x, with the exception of FIREWALL_FORWARD functionality
which does require a custom kernel as it messes with lots of ip paths.

If you want to use natd(8) then you'll need ipdivert.ko (as you have 
above), but if you want to use in-kernel NAT (not yet mentioned in the 
handbook sections for ipfw or natd, though there since 7.0) then you'll 
want IPFIREWALL_NAT and LIBALIAS in kernel, or loaded as modules:

ipfw.ko
ipfw_nat.ko # in-kernel ipfw nat
libalias.ko # for in-kernel ipfw nat
dummynet.ko # if wanted
ipdivert.ko # (or) for natd

Basically, natd uses userland libaliasand ipdivert but in-kernel NAT 
needs in-kernel libalias.  The syntax of nat commands is virtually 
identical for natd.conf and ipfw nat commands, see ipfw(8) & natd(8)

 > 3) in /etc/sysctl.conf:
 > 
 > net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1"

Interestingly, that one hasn't yet made it into ipfw(8) .. your choice, 
or you can use firewall_type="open" for rc.firewall without that, until 
you've got your ruleset in action (when default to deny is advisable)

 > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose="1"
 > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit="100"
 > 
 > 
 >  That cover it?

Should do .. with the abovementioned exception, take ipfw(8) as being 
definitive, ignore the misleading and often just plain wrong handbook 
section, and prosper ..

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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread perryh
Programmer In Training  wrote:

> ... they are only attached for power purposes ...

> Input power: DC 5V 500mA

Any chance these speakers need a USB 2.0 port, and all the ports
on your FreeBSD box are 1.x?  I don't remember the USB power spec
offhand, but 2.5W may exceed what a USB 1.x port can supply --
a limit that applies regardless of the system's overall power
provisioning.
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Re: USB Powered Speakers

2010-04-09 Thread Fbsd1

Antonio Olivares wrote:

On 4/8/10, Programmer In Training  wrote:

I have acquired a pair of Compaq USB /powered/ speakers. On my parents
XP machine they don't seem to cause any problems, but when I hook it up
to listen on my FreeBSD box I have absolutely nothing but problems with
the speakers (even when turned off but still plugged in) interrupting
the normal operation of my keyboard (basically it seems that power is
cut to my keyboard at random). I have a beefy power supply (650W) so I
really shouldn't be having any power distribution issues.

I've tried the speakers in both the on-board USB ports and the USB
expansion card (PCI) with the same results.

Any ideas?


You really need to explain in detail the problem.
Without these new speakers plugged in does wall powered speakers work?
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