Re: why so many errors with ports??
On 6 jun 2010, at 00:39, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world i was a gentoo user and i have install on my second machine FBSD,i have made many formats but every time i try to install a graphical enviroment (such as xfce,kde) many many errors come up. i have heard that the ports are more stable than portage but with portage i didn't have so many errors (actually i can't recall a time when portage died) am i doing sth wrong or ports comes up with many errors?? P.S.: 1 week not i haven't manage to install a graphical enviroment thanks in advance __ I had lots of problems updating my ports due to the change in libgmp. According to the UPDATE file in /urs/ports portupgrade would automatically take care of it, however it didn't. Not sure if related to the OP's question, but maybe worth mentioning. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .sh getopts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 02:47:38, Dan Nelson wrote: flag_count=`expr $flag_count + 1` /bin/sh can do math on its own: flag_count=$((flag_count+1)) flag_count=$(( $flag_count + 1 )) surely? Needs to dereference the variable inside the arithmetic expansion. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLSaIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzQvQCfUnjDCkQ1Xk18MiENPTBhEKlA PIgAnivZn/n+vJVXYFZnpOcrJ0/6voQV =kZtj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .sh getopts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 05:57:37, Aiza wrote: i) action=installworld; flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; Try it like this instead: i) action=installworld; flag_count=$(( $flag_count + 1 ));; (Obviously, apply the equivalent change to the other lines) Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLSlEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzKtwCfSif5jfx11N4lij1vi2Bc9pC1 4yUAn3F9wdz6diW3iFkMPHQ1OZXNWXoc =3EdD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .sh getopts
Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 05:57:37, Aiza wrote: i) action=installworld; flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; Try it like this instead: i) action=installworld; flag_count=$(( $flag_count + 1 ));; (Obviously, apply the equivalent change to the other lines) Cheers, Matthew Thank you that worked. I have been looking for documentation on freebsd's sh shell programming. Want to understand what is happening in that getopts I posted. Where can I find real explanations? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
What happens with x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2 ?
Hi all, First of all my apologies if this is not an appropriate list. I'm a newbie in FreeBSD and I'm a bit overwhelmed about mailing lists and asking for help. If this list is not appropriate for this question I'd appreciate if anyone could suggest an appropriate one. The fact is that I've just installed FreeBSD 8.0 on my laptop and I'm starting to configure it. I'm trying to install the x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2 port by running cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2; make install clean This in turn tries to download some stuff, and it keeps on seeking for gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm on many different servers, all of them respond with File unavailable, like this: = gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/rpm/i386/fedora/10. = Attempting to fetch from http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/. fetch: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm: Not Found = Attempting to fetch from http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/../updates/10/i386/. fetch: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/../updates/10/i386/gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm: Not Found = Attempting to fetch from http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/. fetch: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm: Not Found Error messages like these keep on appearing on the console, and the port is never installed. I was wondering if someone more experienced than me could shed some light on how to get this port installed. Thanks in advance, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: long day, {04jun10}
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 02:08:34PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
The TeX in ports is outdated and abandoned upstream. Install TeXLive
instead.
yup, there is a tkxmlive port in ports/textproc. more to the
point, i found a slew of texlive stuff hosts on google.
The textproc/tkxmlive port has nothing to do with TeXLive.
Currently, the TeXLive distribution of TeX is not in ports. Probably because
it uses its own configuration script and package manager.
But TeXLive is not difficult to install. I've documented my installation on my
UNIX miscellanea page:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/misc.xhtml#updatingtexlivetoversion2009
If you want to use ports that depend on TeX but are not in TeXLive (like
e.g. auctex) you have to patch those ports' Makefiles before installing or
upgrading them. My diff file for print/auctex is shown below.
- mak.diff for print/auctex -
--- Makefile.orig 2009-07-31 15:55:10.0 +0200
+++ Makefile2009-12-21 16:06:05.0 +0100
@@ -16,8 +16,8 @@
MAINTAINER=h...@freebsd.org
COMMENT= Integrated environment for writing LaTeX using GNU Emacs
-BUILD_DEPENDS= ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base
-RUN_DEPENDS= ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base
+#BUILD_DEPENDS=${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base
+#RUN_DEPENDS= ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base
USE_GHOSTSCRIPT=yes
GNU_CONFIGURE= yes
@@ -38,8 +38,8 @@
MKTEXLSR=${MKTEXLSR}
INFO= auctex preview-latex
-TEXMFDIR= share/texmf
-MKTEXLSR= ${LOCALBASE}/bin/mktexlsr
+TEXMFDIR= texlive/2009/texmf
+MKTEXLSR= ${LOCALBASE}/texlive/2009/bin/amd64-freebsd/mktexlsr
NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64
- mak.diff for print/auctex -
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Re: .sh getopts
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On 06/06/2010 08:40:56, Aiza wrote:
I have been looking for documentation on freebsd's sh shell programming.
Want to understand what is happening in that getopts I posted. Where can
I find real explanations?
Well, the essential reference is the sh(1) man page. Just about
everything you could need to know is in there, but possibly not in a way
that you would find particularly accessible for deconstructing a piece
of arbitrary code.
In this sort of case, probably your best bet is to ask for advice.
While such questions are verging on off-topic for this list they do seem
to come up with reasonable frequency and usually receive pretty good
answers.
Let's see... You mean this, I take it:
shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in
u) action=freebsd-update;;
g) action=freebsd-upgrade;;
r) action=freebsd-rollback;;
?) exerr ${cmd_usage};;
esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 ))
Let me reformat that a bit so it's clearer, and add some line numbers:
01: shift
02: while getopts :ugr: arg
03: do
04: case ${arg} in
05: u)
06: action=freebsd-update
07: ;;
08: g)
09: action=freebsd-upgrade
10: ;;
11; r)
12: action=freebsd-rollback
13: ;;
14: ?)
15: exerr ${cmd_usage}
16: ;;
17: esac
18: done
19: shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 ))
So, line 01 discards the first item from the argument list -- that's
just the program name. (The argument list is available as $@ -- which
is somewhat special cased, in that it acts as an array, which is
otherwise not a type provided by posix sh(1)) Actually, I don't think
you need to do this -- getopts is clever enough to deal with that itself.
The while loop from lines 02 to 18 invokes getopts to process the
argument list. getopts is a sh(1) built-in, but it behaves as if it is
an external program. It takes two arguments: the list of option
specifiers, and the variable name to set to the current arg being
processed. Your option string indicates that you expect to deal with
-u
-g
-r foo
bar(ie. a bare argument with no option letter)
(Not actually sure if the bare argument thing actually works. Usually,
you use getopts to process all of the option flags, then a separate bit
of code to deal with anything else left in $@)
Now, inside the while loop, you just have a case statement so you can
jump to the appropriate code for handling each different option.
Hmmm... except you don't handle the bare argument case, nor do you do
anything with the argument to the '-r' option -- you should copy the
value of $OPTARG somewhere to save for later processing within that part
of the case statement.
Now, the enclosing while loop will process all of the command line
options and as you (re)set the 'action' variable each time, only the
last named of and -u, -g or -r options will be effective. That's
reasonable given that the available options seem to be mutually
exclusive. Maybe emitting a warning if you reset the action variable
would be a good idea. One way of doing that is this construct:
[ -z ${action} ] || echo Warning -- action multiply specified
You can add that between lines 03 and 04.
Finally, at line 19, you attempt to discard presumably all of the
options from $@ that getopts has already processed. Unfortunately,
$OPTION is (I think) a bash-ism, and not available with the getopts in
FreeBSD sh(1). Instead, you should be looking at $OPTIND. Like so:
shift $(($OPTIND - 1))
All in all, this is pretty much the normal shell code idiom for handling
command line options. After running this, you should be left
with $@ containing just those arguments /not/ preceded by option flags.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Re: why so many errors with ports??
On 06/06/2010 1:39 π.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world i was a gentoo user and i have install on my second machine FBSD,i have made many formats but every time i try to install a graphical enviroment (such as xfce,kde) many many errors come up. i have heard that the ports are more stable than portage but with portage i didn't have so many errors (actually i can't recall a time when portage died) am i doing sth wrong or ports comes up with many errors?? P.S.: 1 week not i haven't manage to install a graphical enviroment thanks in advance I suggest you perform just the base system install from CD, and compile everything else from an updated ports tree. If you happen to install any packages from the DVD (and esp. since i.e. FreeBSD 8.0 has been out for some time now) you will experience problems - unless you run a portupgrade first (so that all shared libraries etc. get updated to the latest versions). This is not worthy it for a new install - just proceed with the base system install, do not install any packages (doc packages are ok though) and do not even install the ports collection. After the base system is installed, run portsnap fetch extract to get an up-to date ports tree (from then on, you can update this tree with portsnap fetch update) And then go on with installing everything you wish. I usually start with the smallest console based stuff (bash, zip, unzip, rar, unrar, sudo, screen, etc) and continue with x11/xorg and WM or DE of choice. I never had this fail. Have a look at the FreeBSD Handbook's chapter 4,5,6 as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused)
hello, i was using gentoo linux and i have install FBSD 8.0 in my second machine.. i have read the handbooks but i cannot understand which version of FBSD i have. i mean i know that i have 8.0 but i have the stable or the unstable version??? and what is going on with the mirrors? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: why so many errors with ports??
On 06/06/2010 1:11 ?.?., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: i have FBSD 8.0 i have install the base system plus the bash shell from the CD.after the installiation of the system i install ports with portsnap and i update them with portmaster,no error came up,but now i receive errors from xfce4. @*Alejandro Imass* * * what do u mean when u say? Tip: in FBSD the word stable has a completely different meaning than in the LInux world ;-) (adding the list to the recipients) Don't install bash from CD. Bash will also install gettext, and this was recently updated. Almost every single port has a dependency on gettext and you happen to have the old version installed with bash, while the ports you are trying to install will need the new version. Start with just the base system and install bash from ports as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused)
On 06/06/2010 1:27 μ.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: hello, i was using gentoo linux and i have install FBSD 8.0 in my second machine.. i have read the handbooks but i cannot understand which version of FBSD i have. i mean i know that i have 8.0 but i have the stable or the unstable version??? and what is going on with the mirrors? Try uname -a You probably have 8.0-RELEASE, this is an officially released version suitable for servers and desktops alike. There is also 8-STABLE, this is a version in progress which is actually very stable and usable and may provide features missing from RELEASE (which you may need for some reason or other). Since you are a beginner, I suggest you stay with RELEASE for the time being. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
NVIDIA driver fails with Xorg after 'gettext' update.
FreeBSD-8.0-STABLE / amd64 I just finished updating which included the 'gettext' bump. Now, I am experiencing a problem with the nvidia-driver-195.36.15. None of the 'opengl' screen savers worked. Examining the Xorg log showed an error message that the nvidia opengl module was not loading. I therefore did an RR on the port. I rebooted the system and then attempted to start KDE. I was greeted with this error message: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (No such file or directory ). (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): system's kernel log for additional error messages and (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): consult the NVIDIA README for details. (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional information This is a snipped from the Xorg log: (==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration (II) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is (II) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): enabled. (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. P lease see the (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): system's kernel log for additional error mes sages and (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): consult the NVIDIA README for details. (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: nvidia (II) UnloadModule: wfb (II) UnloadModule: fb (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. . From the /boot/loader.conf file: nvidia_load=YES # nVidia video driver I was wondering if anyone else had experienced a similar phenomena or had a suggestion on how to rectify this problem? -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: sysbench / fileio - Linux vs. FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/5/10 2:43 AM, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: On 5 June 2010 00:58, Adam PAPAI w...@wooh.hu wrote: How can I tune my disk to make it faster? Is it possible? What is the reason of the really slow I/O with more than 4 threads? What do you recommend me to do? Why is it damn slow with 8K blocksize? Does linux still have async disk writes by default? Anyway, I looked after the default ext3 values: Debian mounts the ext3 with defaults option. This means: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async. Well it means I have to test it with UFS (async) and Debian (sync). These test will take some time but I hope it worth the effort. Hm... - -- Adam PAPAI -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMC31LAAoJEGq0EWvh5uiIu3MH/i7KWfcYj2zXSsqbUK2W4dKi B0+pD861FBtxmS+O4c4jzR5vJYeVVyVfZ4DLpHs0tqr6u2QZWgTD5c9GXxRNn9Hg pVIL8/iL9BGtjNZdbjKU2RlE+QOb4LUuxqTWtz3poH4e6CQlAMOzvBcmbK41eWVn nr2/jlS8n7TFk74ewAH9NXABrhIaOtCjBf5YWWA9AnKhqjdlAM7gxC6QcbsGTLlR 5zvq6UfGuAMECOV98FDlm3k20LydLT0/Mdw9jth9+50v1NMnAddYjfZ/7Ci2KzZo uUN1VRcOhxmw6oliMPu/+Z324d6Xrp1vXpDQN8tSzME1d3O3CswPDfs3ocpjmkU= =VEsH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
installworld and sources
Compiling a new kernel from source requires /usr/src to be populated, I understand that. The buildworld process for sure needs /usr/src. My question is , is /usr/src also used in the installworld process? Now I have never had to do this type of system RELEASE upgrade before, so I just don't know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap refuse
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:55:22 +0800 Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: The postsnap says adding refuse statements to select the parts of the port tree you have use for will shorten the download process and conserve disk space on your host. That only the port categories not REFUSED will be selected and compressed for download. Well for a test I ran portsnap with out any portsnap.conf file. The download process took 16 minuets. The I mv portsnap.conf.sample to portsnap.conf and added REFUSE for all the categories except sysutils. Reran the portsnap and still it took 16 minuets. I'm not sure what you are saying here, if you ran portsnap twice in succession then the second run shouldn't need any downloads. If you deleted portsnap's data in between then that's what I'd expect. portsnap can request updates to ports or files, but the initial download is a single large file which it can't customize. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: why so many errors with ports??
On Sunday 06 of June 2010 13:32:56 Manolis Kiagias wrote: On 06/06/2010 1:11 ?.?., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: i have FBSD 8.0 i have install the base system plus the bash shell from the CD.after the installiation of the system i install ports with portsnap and i update them with portmaster,no error came up,but now i receive errors from xfce4. @*Alejandro Imass* * * what do u mean when u say? Tip: in FBSD the word stable has a completely different meaning than in the LInux world ;-) (adding the list to the recipients) Don't install bash from CD. Bash will also install gettext, and this was recently updated. Almost every single port has a dependency on gettext and you happen to have the old version installed with bash, while the ports you are trying to install will need the new version. Start with just the base system and install bash from ports as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I believe that you should follow the quick guide that Manolis Kiagias wrote. That is the guide I followed and everything went fine and smooth. Try it: ftp://ftp.freebsdgr.org/pub/freebsd/freebsd.zip This is an unofficial guide, but it works and gives you a step-by-step understanding of your new operating system and it is written in Greek. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 11:27:19, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: hello, i was using gentoo linux and i have install FBSD 8.0 in my second machine.. i have read the handbooks but i cannot understand which version of FBSD i have. i mean i know that i have 8.0 but i have the stable or the unstable version??? and what is going on with the mirrors? Well, look at the output of 'uname -r' If it says '8.0-RELEASE' then you're running 8.0 release, straight from the install media. If it says '8.0-RELEASE-p3' then you're still running 8.0 release, but you've applied all of the currently available security patches. (Which you should do -- see freebsd-update(8) for one way of doing that, or use csup(1) to grab the latest RELENG_8_0 branch sources.) If it says '8.0-STABLE' or '8.1-PRERELEASE' then you're running 8.0 STABLE: in order to have this you would either have had to install a snapshot, or you would have had to use eg. csup(1) to grab sources from the RELENG_8 branch, and recompile the system. Note that the choices in FreeBSD are RELEASE, STABLE or CURRENT. There is no 'UNSTABLE' in the sense that many Linux distributions use it, nor does 'STABLE' mean the same thing. RELEASE are the release branches: these are suitable for production use, having been through various QA procedures and plenty of testing. RELEASE branches only get updates for *) Security patches *) Significant Bugs that would affect normal operation. STABLE is a development branch: it's called 'STABLE' because it is expected to run stably. STABLE generally receives continual fixes and updates, but these will previously have been tested in the bleeding edge CURRENT development branch. The exception to this is during the release process (as we are in at the moment), when this code branch is prepared for branching off the next RELEASE version, which will be 8.1-RELEASE. CURRENT is the bleeding edge of development. It usually works and can be compiled smoothly, but not always. People running this are expected to be capable of dealing with debugging, patching and rebuilding the system and to contribute to the FreeBSD development process. CURRENT's major version is always one more than the latest major release branch. Periodically, there will be a new .0 release version and everything bumps up one. The next update like that is 9.0-RELEASE scheduled for some time late this year. Note: the terms 'RELENG_8' or 'RELENG_8_0' relate to the branch names from CVS. They still apply, but CVS is nowadays automatically populated from Subversion, which is the project's principle version control system nowadays and where the equivalent terms are 'stable/8', 'releng/8.0' or 'release/8.0.0' You may see these mentioned on various mailing lists. Just some more confusing terminology. What problems are you seeing with the mirrors? Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLgHQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwSiACdEV7V0Rm0lXKo30IzcAX5VQHu vTIAn145J4FlNRgWGOBlzOWotN45/ML/ =ZbVV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installworld and sources
Hi! It's good practice to keep /usr/src (your source) intact and the same version as your worldkernel is and vica versa. For the particular installworld step AFAIK /usr/obj is used, where the system has the compiled world made in the build process. steps here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/makeworld.html however you should always read the actual UPDATING file if something changes between versions! Regards, M.Balázs. On 6 June 2010 12:55, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Compiling a new kernel from source requires /usr/src to be populated, I understand that. The buildworld process for sure needs /usr/src. My question is , is /usr/src also used in the installworld process? Now I have never had to do this type of system RELEASE upgrade before, so I just don't know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Booting Xserve on 8.0
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Chris eaglet...@hughes.net wrote: Thanks for the response. That would be a great solution, I read that Apple doesn't permit it to be installed on the XServe. That comes from an Apple article in their support pages dated November 19, 2008. Firmware update is required and none exists according to the note. I am researching if that is still true but haven't turned anything up yet. EFI is the issue. I was hoping there is new information such as an installation with EFI configuration files to permit the boot. There are instructions available on creating such an installation for linux variants. They don't seem to apply to FreeBSD or I haven't the knowledge to create such an installation. Well if you want to run BSD on it, I suggest NetBSD. They use rEFIt for it. http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_an_Apple_Macbook_w/core2duo I would say there is even some reasonable hope it that it would work well. I'm no expert thought so you could try asking over there. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installworld and sources
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 11:55:51, Fbsd1 wrote: Compiling a new kernel from source requires /usr/src to be populated, I understand that. Uh -- compiling a kernel requires /usr/src/sys. I think you can do without the rest of the system sources if all you want to do is build a kernel. OTOH, as you say: you do need all of /usr/src if you want to do a buildworld. The buildworld process for sure needs /usr/src. My question is , is /usr/src also used in the installworld process? Now I have never had to do this type of system RELEASE upgrade before, so I just don't know. Yes -- all of the Makefiles used to run your 'make installworld' are held under /usr/src. Amongst other things -- for instance, you'll need the contents of /usr/src/etc/ in order to run mergemaster(1). Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLgfgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzaHwCcCB4Uri2gKKODCT2xH4nYg8RV uZAAnjt/TAbHC0c18TT+RsmRU/iPVfua =exb6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Booting Xserve on 8.0
On 6 June 2010 12:09, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Chris eaglet...@hughes.net wrote: Thanks for the response. That would be a great solution, I read that Apple doesn't permit it to be installed on the XServe. That comes from an Apple article in their support pages dated November 19, 2008. Firmware update is required and none exists according to the note. I am researching if that is still true but haven't turned anything up yet. EFI is the issue. I was hoping there is new information such as an installation with EFI configuration files to permit the boot. There are instructions available on creating such an installation for linux variants. They don't seem to apply to FreeBSD or I haven't the knowledge to create such an installation. Well if you want to run BSD on it, I suggest NetBSD. They use rEFIt for it. http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_an_Apple_Macbook_w/core2duo I would say there is even some reasonable hope it that it would work well. I'm no expert thought so you could try asking over there. -- Adam Vande More Pretty good idea actually, I tried it on my Macbook once and it worked pretty well. I suggest you try the CD version http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c1s1_install.html before committing to anything though! Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:35:09 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but i found out that there are also much more. can u tell me the basic differences between them?(pros and cons) It isn't humanly possible to write *all* the differences of *all* the shells in a single email reply. But you can find a good table that compares various shells in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_command_shells In a FreeBSD context there are also a few more things to consider when comparing shells: * Is the shell part of the base system or a port/package? * Is the shell well maintained? * Does the shell depend on many other ports or none at all? * Does the shell support building static-only copies? This is useful if you want to upgrade the base system without breaking the login shell you are using every day. Having said that, here are a few personal notes from my own experience with shells on FreeBSD... The /bin/sh and /bin/csh shells are part of the base system, so they are rebuilt as part of the normal buildworld process. The big advantage of using a shell that is part of the base system is that it's always there. Any shell scripts or code you write that uses these shells will have a great chance of running on ANY FreeBSD system out there. That's where traditionalism stops and personal preference jumps in though... I don't like using csh(1) for a lot of things. It syntax makes me cringe, even though it's a mostly ok interactive shell. So I always install at least bash and mksh on my systems. There is no bash shell in the *base* system of FreeBSD. But there are many ports for command shells, and bash is part of these: # cd /usr/ports/shells 44bsd-csh dashjailkit pdksh tcshrc Makefilees ksh93 pear-PHP_Shell v7sh bashesh lshell psh viewglob bash-completion fd mkshrc vshnu bash-static fishnologinmsg rsshwapsh bash3 flash osh sashzoidberg bash3-staticgscommander p5-Shell-Perl scponly zsh bashc heirloom-sh p5-Term-ShellUI shell-include ch ibshpashtcsh_nls # You can always install bash with pkg_add. The default package is not built as a static binary, but you can compile a static bash binary from its port: # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash # make WITH_STATIC_BASH=1 install clean The bash shell depends on two other ports: gettext and libiconv. These are not large ports, but it is often a good idea to have a shell around that only depends on libc. This is why I also install 'shells/mksh' on my systems. It's the ksh compatible shell of the MirOS BSD folks. It has a small foot-print, a ksh-compatible syntax, and it depends only on libc.so: keram...@kobe:/home/keramida$ ldd `which mksh` /usr/local/bin/mksh: libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280c9000) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused)
-- From: Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:03 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused) STABLE is a development branch: it's called 'STABLE' because it is expected to run stably. STABLE generally receives continual fixes and updates, but these will previously have been tested in the bleeding edge Isn't STABLE called stable, because the featureset and kernel interface is set, the term has nothing to do with stableness of the OS itself. Running STABLE is equal to running beta, use at your own risk. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 12:30:53, Reko Turja wrote: From: Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk STABLE is a development branch: it's called 'STABLE' because it is expected to run stably. STABLE generally receives continual fixes and updates, but these will previously have been tested in the bleeding edge Isn't STABLE called stable, because the featureset and kernel interface is set, the term has nothing to do with stableness of the OS itself. Running STABLE is equal to running beta, use at your own risk. While that is true, the concept of ABI and kernel interface stability as currently implemented postdates the concept of the -STABLE branches. For instance, the ABI on the 4.x major branch didn't really stabilize until 4.3-RELEASE. There is certainly an expectation that -STABLE will run correctly even though it is a development branch. The project's record on maintaining that over the years is amazingly good considering. Still, that is as good an explanation as any I've seen for the name 'STABLE'. Cheers Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLigwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwohQCgiiVig1Ig4U2AElabvxCqBapO kREAnR1cljT2CURA1uo890ml7Jsg2PYR =+KzO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:19:08 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr articulated: You can always install bash with pkg_add. The default package is not built as a static binary, but you can compile a static bash binary from its port: # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash # make WITH_STATIC_BASH=1 install clean I thought that was what this port was for: Port: bash-static-4.1.5_2 Path: /usr/ports/shells/bash-static Info: The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installworld and sources
Compiling a new kernel from source requires /usr/src to be populated, I understand that. The buildworld process for sure needs /usr/src. My question is , is /usr/src also used in the installworld process? Now I have never had to do this type of system RELEASE upgrade before, so I just don't know. If you don't mean installworld literally, but instead you mean installing pre-compiled binaries like those distributed on the FreeBSD installation disk images, or those intended for use with freebsd-update(8), then the answer is no. But if you mean it literally -- you intend to run the installworld target -- then the answer is yes, of course. It is the makefiles in /usr/src, from /usr/src/Makefile on down, that are responsible for telling make(1) what to do during installworld. Even after you are done installing, you may still wish to keep part or all of the system sources around, in case of emergencies (you need to rebuild/re-install part of the base system), or for reference, or for subsequent base system updates, or because /sys may be sym-linked to the headers in /usr/src/sys. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8
hello, i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from 8.0-release to stable-8. can you tell me a way to do this? thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused)
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:27:19AM +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: hello, i was using gentoo linux and i have install FBSD 8.0 in my second machine.. i have read the handbooks but i cannot understand which version of FBSD i have. i mean i know that i have 8.0 but i have the stable or the unstable version??? FreeBSD uses the terms a little differently than Linux world. The most supported/stable/etc version for the public is 'RELEASE' That is generally what you want. STABLE is close to a RELEASE in that it is a snapshot of the most recent work, but not necessarily all prettied up with everything tested against it. It is the best (eg most stable) of the development tree Then there is CURRENT. IT is the 'bleeding edge' and not expected to be stable at all. It is essentially a snapshot of head. So, unless you are doing development of stuff to be committed to the tree or for some reason you need something that has been added to the tree, but not yet released, then use RELEASE. Otherwise take a chance with STABLE. STABLE is sort of a middle ground - not quite ready for release, but mostly reliably usable. The ports have generally not been proved against STABLE yet either, but have against RELEASE - though the ports move on at their own pace. jerry and what is going on with the mirrors? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8
On 06/06/2010 4:37 μ.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: hello, i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from 8.0-release to stable-8. can you tell me a way to do this? thanks in advance Since you are just starting with this, I would advise against it. Unless you know STABLE contains something you really need (i.e. a must have driver or fix for your particular hardware), I would say stay on RELEASE until you are more comfortable with your system. Going from RELEASE to STABLE involves recompiling the system from source. It is not really difficult, but it will save you a lot of trouble if you first get better acquainted with your system. If you would like to try it anyway, here are the instructions: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/el/books/handbook/current-stable.html (starting from 24.5.2) Since you are experimenting and don't have any data on the system, you may also wish to directly install one of the snapshots that will get you directly to a STABLE system. You can find snapshot ISOs here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201005/ or you may even wish to try 8.1-BETA1 which is also available in local mirrors (like otenet): ftp://ftp.otenet.gr/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/8.1/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8
On Sun 2010-06-06 13:37:58 UTC+, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas (terie...@gmail.com) wrote: i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from 8.0-release to stable-8. can you tell me a way to do this? My immediate thought was that if you can't work out how to update your system to FreeBSD-STABLE then you probably shouldn't be doing that. You should read the FreeBSD handbook then decide whether running STABLE is actually what you want to do. Particularly this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html Most FreeBSD users install FreeBSD-RELEASE then use the freebsd-update command to either patch it with security updates or upgrade to a newer version of RELEASE. As far as I know you can't use freebsd-update to upgrade to/from STABLE, only RELEASE. Regards Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Continuing problem with NVIDIA Driver
FreeBSD-8.0 STABLE / amd64 After updating (gettext) the NVIDIA driver no longer worked in Xorg, nor was it being loaded at boot-up even thought it was in the /boot/loader.conf file and had worked correctly priviously. I am also unable to load it manually. kldload nvidia KLD nvidia.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch linker_load_file: Unsupported file type kldload: can't load nvidia: Exec format error kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 12 0x8010 ddd800 kernel 21 0x81022000 399f linprocfs.ko 31 0x81026000 1c4e8linux.ko kldstat -v doesn't reveal anything interesting either. I have removed and reinstalled the NVIDIA driver (nvidia-driver-195.36.15) twice without any success. This only started after updating 'gettext'. Everything else appears to be working correctly. -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ If any man wishes to be humbled and mortified, let him become president of Harvard. Edward Holyoke signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Continuing problem with NVIDIA Driver
On 6 June 2010 16:12, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: FreeBSD-8.0 STABLE / amd64 After updating (gettext) the NVIDIA driver no longer worked in Xorg, nor was it being loaded at boot-up even thought it was in the /boot/loader.conf file and had worked correctly priviously. I am also unable to load it manually. kldload nvidia KLD nvidia.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch linker_load_file: Unsupported file type kldload: can't load nvidia: Exec format error kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 12 0x8010 ddd800 kernel 2 1 0x81022000 399f linprocfs.ko 3 1 0x81026000 1c4e8 linux.ko kldstat -v doesn't reveal anything interesting either. I have removed and reinstalled the NVIDIA driver (nvidia-driver-195.36.15) twice without any success. This only started after updating 'gettext'. Everything else appears to be working correctly. -- Have you *recompiled* nvidia-driver, or just reinstalled the package? Is it linking against the *current* kernel in /boot/kernel? Reboot, and portupgrade -f nvidia-driver Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:37:58 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from 8.0-release to stable-8. can you tell me a way to do this? Basically, this process contains two main steps: fetching the sources, and compiling and installing the system. Step 1 can easily be done by using csup (it's in the base) with the following configuration: This into /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP=/usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPHOST=cvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE=/etc/sup/stable.sup This into /etc/sup/stable.sup: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all You can of course select a mirror near your location. The tag= parameter selects what you will get, e. g. a certain specifig RELEASE, patches for a RELEASE, STABLE, or even CURRENT. The keyword RELENG_8 will give you 8-STABLE. If you've updated your sorces, read /usr/src/UPDATING, and for the steps how to start, refer to /usr/src/Makefile. You can also add compiling options to /etc/make.conf to be involved here; a typical setting could be setting CPUTYPE. Then you start. # cd /usr/src # make buildworld buildkernel # make installkernel Then reboot into single user mode: # reboot ... Ok boot -s ... When arrived in single user mode, check your partitions via fsck, and then mount them (mount -a). # cd /usr/src # mergemaster -p # make installworld # make delete-old # mergemaster # reboot When you now have reached multi user mode again, finally do # cd /usr/src # make delete-old-libs Check the result via # uname -a If you do have a custom kernel, add KERNCONF=name to the make calls, e. g. # make buildkernel KERNCONF=FOOBAR or # make installkernel KERNCONF=FOOBAR respectively. Finally, see the excellent documentation in the FreeBSD Handbook. It should cover everything that hasn't been mentioned yet. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? man zsh to see that there are so many features they had to break up the man pages. That's kind of scary. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpiMshgJD1LJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
errors with kde4 and xorg
hello, i am trying to compile xorg and kde 4 but i receive these 2 errors. i have updated the ports. the kde error === kde4-4.4.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssh.so - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on executable: gmake - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtTest.so - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtXml.so - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automoc4 - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on shared library: pulse.0 - not found ===Verifying install for pulse.0 in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: gmake - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/sm.pc - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc in /usr/ports/x11/libXtst === Returning to build of pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on package: libtool=2.2 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: samplerate.1 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: speexdsp.1 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: gdbm.3 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: execinfo - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: ck-connector.0 - not found ===Verifying install for ck-connector.0 in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit === consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on executable: gmake - found === consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found === consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: dbus-glib-1.2 - found === consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: polkit-gobject-1.0 - not found ===Verifying install for polkit-gobject-1.0 in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit === polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir - found === polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410 === Installing for docbook-4.1_4 === docbook-4.1_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 === Installing for iso8879-1986_2 === iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip *** Error code 11 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. === kde4-4.4.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog -
Re: Booting Xserve on 8.0
On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:09 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Chris eaglet...@hughes.net wrote: EFI is the issue. I was hoping there is new information such as an installation with EFI configuration files to permit the boot. There are instructions available on creating such an installation for linux variants. They don't seem to apply to FreeBSD or I haven't the knowledge to create such an installation. Well if you want to run BSD on it, I suggest NetBSD. They use rEFIt for it. http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_an_Apple_Macbook_w/core2duo I would say there is even some reasonable hope it that it would work well. I'm no expert thought so you could try asking over there. Adam and Chris, Thank you, you both are on the solution if it works. rEFIt at refit.sourceforge.net was one of the solutions that looked promising, only with FreeBSD. I will try this. Anyone interested, feel free to contact me off-list on progress or especially if interested in cooperative discovery on whether this will work or not. Thanks again for the responses. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: errors with kde4 and xorg
On Sunday 06 of June 2010 19:38:29 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: hello, i am trying to compile xorg and kde 4 but i receive these 2 errors. i have updated the ports. the kde error === kde4-4.4.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssh.so - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on executable: gmake - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so - found === kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtTest.so - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtXml.so - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automoc4 - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found === phonon-4.4.1 depends on shared library: pulse.0 - not found ===Verifying install for pulse.0 in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: gmake - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/sm.pc - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc in /usr/ports/x11/libXtst === Returning to build of pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on package: libtool=2.2 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: samplerate.1 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: speexdsp.1 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: gdbm.3 - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: execinfo - found === pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: ck-connector.0 - not found ===Verifying install for ck-connector.0 in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit === consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on executable: gmake - found === consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found === consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: dbus-glib-1.2 - found === consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: polkit-gobject-1.0 - not found ===Verifying install for polkit-gobject-1.0 in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit === polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir - found === polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410 === Installing for docbook-4.1_4 === docbook-4.1_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 === Installing for iso8879-1986_2 === iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip *** Error code 11 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. *** Error code 1 Stop in
Re: errors with kde4 and xorg
hello, i am trying to compile xorg and kde 4 but i receive these 2 errors. i have updated the ports. The errors are all coming from a failure to install the dependency textproc/iso8879. What is the output of 'make -C /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 checksum' ? If it fails, try deleting the distfiles that are incomplete/corrupted, and fetching them again. If it works, but the installation still fails, try installing a package, rather than a port, for textproc/iso8879, and then continuing with your other port builds. textproc/iso8879 may be modified soon, because unqualified use of 'unzip' in the install target seems to be causing confusion between the new base system unzip and archivers/unzip, which may have consequences for the extraction of files, and is triggering warnings on tinderboxes. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: errors with kde4 and xorg
On 6/6/10, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: ... your other port builds. textproc/iso8879 may be modified soon, because unqualified use of 'unzip' in the install target seems to be causing confusion between the new base system unzip and archivers/unzip, which may have consequences for the extraction of files, and is triggering warnings on tinderboxes. In fact, it has been updated three times in succession in the past three days (including once in the past half-hour) to correct this and related problems. You can wait a little bit, and then update your ports tree, and this port should work. Or you can use a package, or grab the latest version of this port from http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/textproc/iso8879/iso8879.tar.gz?tarball=1 . b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Continuing problem with NVIDIA Driver
On Sunday 06 June 2010 17:12:46 Jerry wrote: FreeBSD-8.0 STABLE / amd64 After updating (gettext) the NVIDIA driver no longer worked in Xorg, nor was it being loaded at boot-up even thought it was in the /boot/loader.conf file and had worked correctly priviously. I am also unable to load it manually. kldload nvidia KLD nvidia.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch linker_load_file: Unsupported file type kldload: can't load nvidia: Exec format error kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 12 0x8010 ddd800 kernel 21 0x81022000 399f linprocfs.ko 31 0x81026000 1c4e8linux.ko kldstat -v doesn't reveal anything interesting either. I have removed and reinstalled the NVIDIA driver (nvidia-driver-195.36.15) twice without any success. This only started after updating 'gettext'. Everything else appears to be working correctly. Are your kernel sources in sync with the kernel you're running? Did you rebuild the driver? (i.e. make deinstall clean make reinstall clean) You need to have the exact version of the sources you used to build the kernel. -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Booting Xserve on 8.0
On 6 June 2010 17:50, Chris eaglet...@hughes.net wrote: On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:09 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Chris eaglet...@hughes.net wrote: EFI is the issue. I was hoping there is new information such as an installation with EFI configuration files to permit the boot. There are instructions available on creating such an installation for linux variants. They don't seem to apply to FreeBSD or I haven't the knowledge to create such an installation. Well if you want to run BSD on it, I suggest NetBSD. They use rEFIt for it. http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_an_Apple_Macbook_w/core2duo I would say there is even some reasonable hope it that it would work well. I'm no expert thought so you could try asking over there. Adam and Chris, Thank you, you both are on the solution if it works. rEFIt at refit.sourceforge.net was one of the solutions that looked promising, only with FreeBSD. I will try this. Anyone interested, feel free to contact me off-list on progress or especially if interested in cooperative discovery on whether this will work or not. Thanks again for the responses. I would recommend keeping discussion on-list, if you don't mind, because the Archives are incredibly useful to people trying to solve similar problems. We all learn from watching discussions on these lists, that's why we're subscribed! Of course, if you consider it confidential feel free to go off-list, it's your call. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 8.0 linux emulator kernel panic
I'm having issues with the Fedora Core6 linux emulator on FreeBSD 8.0 it panics when i run HLDS, the same issue was addressed by Daniel Ballenger in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-February/054646.htmlbut i did not get the fix. Giovanni Trematerra gave a response that it was fix in a r200768 now it is clear that i do not know that that code means (in my eyes it's a bsd build or smth) but i'm currently running the latest 8.0-RELEASE-p3 available. Please advise on how to patch the kernel panic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? Interactive only. For scripting, I stick to sh unless it gets too complex -- then I jump to Ruby. man zsh to see that there are so many features they had to break up the man pages. That's kind of scary. True, and it shows in its initial virtual size: sterling 62630 0.0 0.0 8264 1804 0 I10:42AM 0:00.00 sh sterling 62733 0.0 0.1 10284 2932 0 I10:42AM 0:00.01 csh sterling 62791 0.0 0.1 10284 2848 0 I10:43AM 0:00.01 tcsh sterling 70731 0.0 0.1 14580 4324 0 I10:46AM 0:00.05 zsh sterling 71773 0.0 0.1 10220 2908 0 I+ 10:46AM 0:00.01 bash But on a laptop with 4GB, I don't miss it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Small webserver recommendations
Hello all, I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. Anyone willing to make a recommendation? Thanks in advance, Peter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:50:43AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? Interactive only. For scripting, I stick to sh unless it gets too complex -- then I jump to Ruby. I'm curious about why you prefer zsh for an interactive shell. What zsh features would you miss if you used tcsh instead (what I've been using)? I'm always willing to be convinced to try something better. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpLYtrLWr9SZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Jun 06 2010 12:21, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:50:43AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? Interactive only. For scripting, I stick to sh unless it gets too complex -- then I jump to Ruby. I'm curious about why you prefer zsh for an interactive shell. What zsh features would you miss if you used tcsh instead (what I've been using)? I'm always willing to be convinced to try something better. I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're arguably more sane -- just because the sh versions flow off the fingertips. So sh-compatibility was my main reason, but I like the features of csh that zsh cherry-picked. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small webserver recommendations
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. If you are using Perl, might as well use any of the http servers already implemented in Perl, for example: HTTP::Server::Simple, and of course it's integrated with Perl CGI Best, Alejandro Imass Anyone willing to make a recommendation? Thanks in advance, Peter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
in message 20100606182148.gb28...@guilt.hydra,
wrote Chad Perrin thusly...
...
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of
the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be
copyfree rather than copyleft.
...
I'm curious about why you prefer zsh for an interactive shell.
What zsh features would you miss if you used tcsh instead (what
I've been using)?
I'm always willing to be convinced to try something better.
I cannot say about the tcsh features.
I switched from bash to zsh mainly for excellent vi-mode editing
support, more so over multiple lines. ksh bash were horrible in
that respect.
Recently I have found that regular expression like [a-d] (instead of
{a,b,c,d}) in file name generation work as expected. zsh has more
ways to help file name generation which I have not looked into yet.
And of course, as stated earlier, compatibility between a bourne
shell script an interactive shell helps immensely while
developing|debugging a script.
- parv
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office apps
This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. There are office conglomerates both for KDE and Gnome, KOffice and GOffice. If you already have either of them installed, you may try this. An acceptable stand-alone word processor is Abiword. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? Gnumeric. If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. CVS for data, C or awk for processing, gnuplot for plotting. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small webserver recommendations
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:44 PM, peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. Anyone willing to make a recommendation? lighttpd is a decent lightweight web server % pwd /usr/ports/www/lighttpd % make all-depends-list /usr/ports/devel/libtool22 /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config /usr/ports/devel/pcre /usr/ports/www/spawn-fcgi /usr/ports/devel/gmake -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
personally i use editors/ted for word processing. it's simple and efficient. if you decide to try it out be sure to comment out the openmotif stuff in the makefile so it gets linked to gtk2. cheers. alex -- Alexander Best ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Small webserver recommendations
Sorry for top posting (damn windows phone). I never thought of using Perl directly, I'll look at that, thanks for the suggestion. Peter. -Original Message- From: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org Sent: 06 June 2010 19:58 To: peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com Cc: questi...@freebsd.org questi...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. If you are using Perl, might as well use any of the http servers already implemented in Perl, for example: HTTP::Server::Simple, and of course it's integrated with Perl CGI Best, Alejandro Imass Anyone willing to make a recommendation? Thanks in advance, Peter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:38:26PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Indeed. There are office conglomerates both for KDE and Gnome, KOffice and GOffice. If you already have either of them installed, you may try this. An acceptable stand-alone word processor is Abiword. Don't forget LaTeX! Especially since it is quite easy for scripting languages to generate LaTeX code (automation). Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? Gnumeric. Second that. Especially for quick dirty jobs. If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. CVS for data, C or awk for processing, gnuplot for plotting. :-) For real data munching, programming languages do a much better job indeed. May I also suggest Perl, Lua and Python al alternatives to C and awk? And 'make' to tie everything together. Unless your machine is severely underpowered or your datasets are _huge_, scripting languages tend to be fast enough for data processing, IMHO. The general weakness of office suites is _automation_, something that programs following the UNIX philosophy excel at. (pardon the pun). Quoting Doug McIlroy: This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpha4vcXIfxx.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Small webserver recommendations
Sorry for top posting (cheapo windows phone). Will it run cgi? Thanks for the suggestion. Peter. -Original Message- From: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com Sent: 06 June 2010 21:42 To: peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com Cc: questi...@freebsd.org questi...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:44 PM, peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. Anyone willing to make a recommendation? lighttpd is a decent lightweight web server % pwd /usr/ports/www/lighttpd % make all-depends-list /usr/ports/devel/libtool22 /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config /usr/ports/devel/pcre /usr/ports/www/spawn-fcgi /usr/ports/devel/gmake -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrading squeezeboxserver
Hi Uwe, thanks for the quick reply. -- Vincent On 30 May 2010, at 22:27, Uwe Laverenz wrote: Am 30.05.2010 20:46, schrieb Vincent Zee: I recently upgraded to the newest version of audio/squeezeboxserver. After the update the server is unable to rescan my music collection. Does anyone else encountered this problem? Yes, same problem here. I tried different versions of perl (5.8 and 5.10 both with or without threading) and gave up after several reinstalls due to lack of time. How can I revert to the previous version of squeezeboxserver (I'm using Portmaster to upgrade my ports)? There's a tool for this in ports-mgmt/portdowngrade. cu, Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrading squeezeboxserver
Hi George, thank you for your answer, will try out your solution. -- Vincent On 31 May 2010, at 0:07, George Hartzell wrote: Vincent Zee writes: Hi, I recently upgraded to the newest version of audio/squeezeboxserver. After the update the server is unable to rescan my music collection. Does anyone else encountered this problem? How can I revert to the previous version of squeezeboxserver (I'm using Portmaster to upgrade my ports)? I had this problem and managed to work around it. I haven't had time to track it down enough to file a bug though. My fix was to downgrade p5-DBIx-Class to version 08120. There's probably a proper way to do this thing, but what I ended up doing was downgrading the port's distinfo file, replacing its contents with the following three lines: MD5 (DBIx-Class-0.08120.tar.gz) = ebed5ed315618e783ac048767aed90a5 SHA256 (DBIx-Class-0.08120.tar.gz) = c97af692cbbf9779457e669b52d117b3b174aac3826d4af20da7f26e5aabe479 SIZE (DBIx-Class-0.08120.tar.gz) = 513806 grabbed from r47 found here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/databases/p5-DBIx-Class/distinfo?sortby=rev and changing the PORTVERSION in the Makefile to 0.08120. Then did a make, a make deinstall and a make install. There was probably a make makesum in there too. Let me know if you need more details suggestions. g. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:03:11 +0200, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Don't forget LaTeX! Especially since it is quite easy for scripting languages to generate LaTeX code (automation). Oh, but *I* didn't forget LaTeX. The OP requested a word processor, not a typesetting system (which is the next evolutionary step). :-) But you are right: LaTeX is excellent because it does all the things right that word processors do get right after you invested several hours configuring them, or don't get it right at all. In this relation, LyX should also be mentioned, a kind of WYSIWYG interface to LaTeX (inaccurately spoken). If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. CVS for data, C or awk for processing, gnuplot for plotting. :-) For real data munching, programming languages do a much better job indeed. Especially if efficiency is a topic (number crunching), nothing beats native binary code. May I also suggest Perl, Lua and Python al alternatives to C and awk? Especially Perl is worth mentioning. And 'make' to tie everything together. Totally agreed; I also (ab)use it for controlling tasks (like making web pages out of statistical data). Unless your machine is severely underpowered or your datasets are _huge_, scripting languages tend to be fast enough for data processing, IMHO. And of course a bit more comfortable to use. The general weakness of office suites is _automation_, something that programs following the UNIX philosophy excel at. (pardon the pun). Quoting Doug McIlroy: This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface. A nice summary. And true. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.0 linux emulator kernel panic
On Sunday 06 June 2010 19:31:00 Bogdan Webb wrote: I'm having issues with the Fedora Core6 linux emulator on FreeBSD 8.0 it panics when i run HLDS, the same issue was addressed by Daniel Ballenger in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-February/054646.html but i did not get the fix. Giovanni Trematerra gave a response that it was fix in a r200768 now it is clear that i do not know that that code means (in my eyes it's a bsd build or smth) but i'm currently running the latest 8.0-RELEASE-p3 available. Please advise on how to patch the kernel panic. r200768 uniquely identifies a single change to the FreeBSD source code. In this case it identifies a bugfix to linux_signal.c. You need to run 8-STABLE (currently it will show up as 8.1-PRERELEASE) to get the fix. I know it works because I also run multiple HLDS processes on FreeBSD. To get 8-STABLE: cvsup/csup the sources to RELENG_8, then follow these instructions to upgrade: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html Good luck! -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On June 6, 2010 04:34:16 pm Chip Camden wrote: This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. Gnumeric provides a good spreadsheet, although it does need X11. It supports charting, with a good variety of options. It installed very quickly on a Linux system, seems much lighter than OpenOffice Calc, and it starts much more quickly than Calc. pkg_add -r gnumeric should install it for you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Java plugin with Firefox 3.6
As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within firefox 3.6? Thanks in advance, Marcio C. Goulart _ QUER FICAR SEMPRE EM CONTATO COM SEUS AMIGOS? ACESSE O MESSENGER PELO SEU CELULAR. http://celular.windowslive.com.br/messenger.asp?produto=Messengerutm_source=Live_Hotmailutm_medium=Taglineutm_content=QUERFICARS82utm_campaign=MobileServices___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small webserver recommendations
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote: Sorry for top posting (damn windows phone). I never thought of using Perl directly, I'll look at that, thanks for the suggestion. Jajajaja. Windows Mobile sucks big time. Switch to an Android device and support Perldroid ;-) !!! Alex Peter. -Original Message- From: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org Sent: 06 June 2010 19:58 To: peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com Cc: questi...@freebsd.org questi...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. If you are using Perl, might as well use any of the http servers already implemented in Perl, for example: HTTP::Server::Simple, and of course it's integrated with Perl CGI Best, Alejandro Imass Anyone willing to make a recommendation? Thanks in advance, Peter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. Use Abiword wor word processing or Emacs + PSGML + ispell for DocBook ;-) Gnumeric for Spreadsheet Latex Beamer for Presentations I wish there would be a ban on integrated stuff ;-) Best, Alejandro Imass -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. It may be a little late to ask -- but I notice nobody else addressed the matter: Does your OO.o replacement have to be somewhat compatible with MS Office? If so . . . does it have to be two-way compatible? There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would work for the purposes you described. Maybe someone else can comment on the suitability of recent versions of Abiword and Gnumeric (for instance). Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java), I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via MS Excel. I loathe applications written in VBA, to put it mildly, and only my loathing for MS Windows and MS Office has kept that ancient OO.o install on one of my computers for so long. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgphl8gVuRlj3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:32:58AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're arguably more sane -- just because the sh versions flow off the fingertips. So sh-compatibility was my main reason, but I like the features of csh that zsh cherry-picked. Given my preference for (t)csh syntax over sh syntax for an interactive shell, I guess that doesn't give me a whole lot of motivation to try it out. Another response to my question discusses some other benefits, though. . . . Thanks for your perspective. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp960sYrvYxt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:06:28AM -1000, p...@pair.com wrote:
I cannot say about the tcsh features.
That's kind of a shame, since tcsh is what I prefer these days, having
long since given up on bash (pretty much immediately after I started
using FreeBSD as my primary OS instead of bash, and realized I preferred
the csh-style syntax).
I switched from bash to zsh mainly for excellent vi-mode editing
support, more so over multiple lines. ksh bash were horrible in
that respect.
I've never really tried using vi-mode editing in any shell, despite the
fact I'm a constant vi user (even a vi gangsta, one might say). Maybe I
should some day. Thus far, though, I don't even know if tcsh supports
vi-mode editing.
Recently I have found that regular expression like [a-d] (instead of
{a,b,c,d}) in file name generation work as expected. zsh has more
ways to help file name generation which I have not looked into yet.
And of course, as stated earlier, compatibility between a bourne
shell script an interactive shell helps immensely while
developing|debugging a script.
This is another area where I just haven't run into the need for that sort
of thing. When I use a regex at the command prompt, it's via grep,
basically -- I don't tend to get more fancy than something like globbing.
For scripting, I stick to sh and real programming languages like Perl
and Ruby. I'm not terribly clear on tcsh's regex support, and I guess if
I needed shell compatibility when writing a shell script (which, for me,
is usually just a batch file, perhaps with a little flow control and a
variable or two) I can always just start sh.
--
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
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Re: office apps
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? For short/unstructure documents, I suggest you to use Ooo (it slows but you can type the document quickly:D) For long/structure documents, LaTeX is a good choice. It is said that ConTeXt is good replacement of LaTeX but I have never tried it. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. Have you ever tried Google Spreadsheet or something like that? -- Anh Ky Huynh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. It may be a little late to ask -- but I notice nobody else addressed the matter: Does your OO.o replacement have to be somewhat compatible with MS Office? If so . . . does it have to be two-way compatible? There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would work for the purposes you described. Maybe someone else can comment on the suitability of recent versions of Abiword and Gnumeric (for instance). Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java), I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via MS Excel. I loathe applications written in VBA, to put it mildly, and only my loathing for MS Windows and MS Office has kept that ancient OO.o install on one of my computers for so long. Tell the jackasses that if they want to send you one of their Word docs, they should save it as PDF, or RTF if they want you to edit it. If it's an Excel doc, CSV. Sure, it means some of the Microsoft bells and whistles will get lost in the translation. Tough. They're like American tourists overseas, expecting everyone to speak their language and to be familiar with their provincial customs. I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: [...] I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? Latex Beamer rules! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 21:44:45 PDT Alejandro Imass wrote: On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: [...] I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? Latex Beamer rules! Maybe so, but can the guy with PowerPoint send you something you work with in Beamer? (I'm not familiar with Beamer myself.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote: As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within firefox 3.6? I just portinstall firefox3, which right now will give you Firefox 3.5.9, and java works ;-) -- Mvh/Brgds Harry FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE #3: Compiled at Mon Jun 7 01:54:25 CEST 2010 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
