Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so

2010-06-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 08/06/2010 03:58:13, Gary Kline wrote:
   question number one, which port builds the apache php5
   library?  number two; is there one that will resolve the
   missing 'ap_user_id'?

Do you now, or did you once have apache13 installed on this machine?  It
sounds as if your lang/php5 port has linked against the wrong apache
version.

There have been some pretty important changes to the apache ports
recently.  Principally nowadays you have to have a separate devel/apr1
port installed, instead of defaulting to the one bundled with apache.
See the 20100518 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING.  If you follow the
instructions there to reinstall www/apache22, then reinstall lang/php5
and all php5- or pecl- modules it should work better.

Optionally, you can add APACHE_PORT= www/apache22 to /etc/make.conf
but it should come right without having to do that.

Cheers,

Matthew

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WFRG Personal Use Policy

2010-06-08 Thread Andy Gallo
Personal Use Program

Here's how it works...

WFRG loves wood flooring. We develop many unique wood flooring products, 
several of which have become our personal favorites. We are so excited about 
these favorites that we would like to share them with you. And what better way 
to do so than to offer them to you for your personal use at discounted prices? 

Here's how our Personal Use program works: 

Note: This program is available only to Registered WFRG Design Professionals. 

Personal use means flooring that is going to be installed into the residence in 
which you live; it is NOT flooring being installed anywhere else or being 
resold. At the time of order we will ask that you attest to this and also 
request that you e-mail us a photo of the installation once completed. 
Itrsquo;s a great way to share our excitement!


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WFRG Personal Use Policy

2010-06-08 Thread Andy Gallo
Personal Use Program

Here's how it works...

WFRG loves wood flooring. We develop many unique wood flooring products, 
several of which have become our personal favorites. We are so excited about 
these favorites that we would like to share them with you. And what better way 
to do so than to offer them to you for your personal use at discounted prices? 

Here's how our Personal Use program works: 

Note: This program is available only to Registered WFRG Design Professionals. 

Personal use means flooring that is going to be installed into the residence in 
which you live; it is NOT flooring being installed anywhere else or being 
resold. At the time of order we will ask that you attest to this and also 
request that you e-mail us a photo of the installation once completed. 
Itrsquo;s a great way to share our excitement!


Click here for FREE Architectural Folder



Dear design professional,
If you are receiving this email, then you are on the Wood Floor Resource 
Group's mailing list.
We know that for some, mailing list is a bad word that implies spam, junk 
mail, and other inconveniences.
We consider having your name on our list a privilege which we will work to 
preserve by not abusing it!
While we seek to educate and inform, lest anyone forget, we are in the business 
of selling wood flooring!  If you have a need for wood flooring for your 
projects, please visit our website at www.woodfloorrg.com or simply pick up the 
phone and call us at 609.589.3100 x149.


Just a few Personal Use Flooring Products discounted below $2.00 Square Foot:

Bubinga 

Afrormosia

Shedua










Click here for complete list





More Flooring Available 
-Handscraped 

-Prefinished Solids

-FSC Exotic engineered

-Recycled Domestic engineered

Click here for complete list


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Re: WFRG Personal Use Policy

2010-06-08 Thread Olivier Nicole
Now FreeBSD with a unique wood floor, that is a very exciting prospect!

Olivier

I know, I know, don't feed them, but I think it is the right time tio
offer beasty a new home! :))
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Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so

2010-06-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 06:59:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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 On 08/06/2010 03:58:13, Gary Kline wrote:
  question number one, which port builds the apache php5
  library?  number two; is there one that will resolve the
  missing 'ap_user_id'?
 
 Do you now, or did you once have apache13 installed on this machine?  It
 sounds as if your lang/php5 port has linked against the wrong apache
 version.


Yes, and it is beyond bizarre since i've been using apache22
since jan, '08.   i've followed the instructions in UPDATING
more than a dzn times since 6p.m. or so  i finally looked
[and Saw]  that libphp5.so was going into apache22 rather
than apache/; i.e.:
/usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so.  i'm almost certain.

it took more than three months late last summer - fall to
move my server off an ancient hp tower and into a duo-core
dell.  in the end i jmay have done a wholesale copy of the
binaries and done many upgrades.  hours ago i did indeed have
to delete apache13.  
 
 There have been some pretty important changes to the apache ports
 recently.  Principally nowadays you have to have a separate devel/apr1
 port installed, instead of defaulting to the one bundled with apache.

Right.  AS of 18may or so i guess the default is to use the
portable runtime libs [pl].  prior to this i was not AFAIK.
I keep the apache22 ports reasonably current by default, and
had not realized that my last portmaster and portupgrades had
gione awry.  By sheer chance late afternoon i saw one of my
tabs was labelled with Error...  


 See the 20100518 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING.  If you follow the
 instructions there to reinstall www/apache22, then reinstall lang/php5
 and all php5- or pecl- modules it should work better.
 
 Optionally, you can add APACHE_PORT= www/apache22 to /etc/make.conf
 but it should come right without having to do that.
 


I hath donne that, Sire.  {it may be a wee bit olde fashioned
to used /etc/make.conf to write such in stone, but by the
time apache22 is at, say, apache3x, i shall be long
departed!}


   Cheers,
 
si, and Proost or na zdravi!

gary

oh, and santay[sp?]



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Boosting up gigabit interface ?

2010-06-08 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello

Does some anyone could give me a path to boost up the flow
between a server and a Cisco 3750 switch if possible  (jumbo frames ? ) ?

The server is an IBM X3650 ( 7.2-RELEASE) with two Broadcom gigabit
interfaces.

ifconfig give that parameters :

bce0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=1bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:14:5e:dc:44:8e
inet 147.215.1.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 147.215.1.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex)
status: active

the server is directly attached to the Cisco switch

Thank you



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Re: minicom freebsd 8.0

2010-06-08 Thread akash kumar
Hi,

Finally worked for me. Thanks all for your help.
Below are the steps.

1. /var/log/messages has below message when ever usb port is inserted. 
 Unknown USB device: vendor 0x4348 product* 0x5523* bus uhub2 

2. grepping for vendor no. 
 grep 0x4348 /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/* 
/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs:vendor WCH0x4348QinHeng Electronics 

 cat /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs | grep WCH 
vendor WCH0x4348QinHeng Electronics 
/* WCH products */ 
product WCH CH341SER*0x5523 *   CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge 
product WCH2 CH341SER0x7523CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge 


3. After bit of googling with 'CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge', found that 
specific module is missing.
  Added uchcom in to the config file and rebuilt the kernel and booted 
with it. 
 kldstat -v | grep uchcom 
   309 uhub/uchcom 

4. After rebooting could see below messages i.e device being recognized 
as the module is already present 
ugen2.3: vendor 0x4348 at usbus2 
ucom0: vendor 0x4348 USB-SER!, rev 1.10/2.50, addr 3 on usbus2 
ucom0: CH340 detected 

The device is created with name  /dev/cuaU0 and it worked finally with minicom. 


Thanks,
Akash.




From: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws
To: akash kumar akashb...@yahoo.co.in
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, 2 June, 2010 3:36:54 PM
Subject: Re: minicom freebsd 8.0

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, akash kumar akashb...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Hi,

 I was referring to minicom command similar to one on linux.
 On linux the config file is /etc/minirc.configfile and the  Serial Device 
 is  /dev/ttyUSB0, which was working for me.
 On freebsd  the config file is /usr/local/etc/minicom/minirc.configfile, 
 but not sure what to update in the field 'pu port'.

 I tried with /dev/ugen2.2 but got below error
 minicom: cannot open /dev/ugen2.2: Permission denied

 Please let me know what needs to be updated in the 'pu port' field.

Ah, okay. ugen is a generic device. I think you can't use that directly
if you have a usb-to-serial converter.

I guess you need to kldload a kernel module specific to your usb-to-serial
converter. For example something like uplcom, umodem etc. This would
create a new entry in /dev that you can use in minicom.

Permissions for those devices can be set in /etc/devfs.rules (and restarting
devfs with /etc/rc.d/devfs restart). You may also want to look at /etc/devd.conf

I'm not familiar with usb-to-serial converters, so I can't help more than that.
Others may have more experience there.

 Thanks,
 Akash.

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kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards

2010-06-08 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello All

since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages

The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu
related but I am a bit confused in it.

Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages
if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill
himself when it trap that kind of error messages.


Thank you


Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721
usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528
usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928
usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241
usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373
usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556
usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152
usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287
usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 usec
to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711
usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 usec
to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 usec
to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325
usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 21246
usec to 20041 usec for pid 2 (g_event)
Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8572
usec to 7530 usec for pid 0 (swapper)
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Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards

2010-06-08 Thread Antonio Vieiro
This may be of help:

http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-2805.html

Cheers,
Antonio

2010/6/8 Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr:
 Hello All

 since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages

 The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu
 related but I am a bit confused in it.

 Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages
 if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill
 himself when it trap that kind of error messages.


 Thank you


 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721
 usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528
 usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928
 usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241
 usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373
 usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556
 usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152
 usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287
 usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 usec
 to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711
 usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 usec
 to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 usec
 to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325
 usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 21246
 usec to 20041 usec for pid 2 (g_event)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8572
 usec to 7530 usec for pid 0 (swapper)
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Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text. 

And five minutes later, they call you by phone and ask how they can
edit the PDF file... :-)


Just a friendly sidenote:

 On
 the other hand, clients who prefer Word DOC(X) but will take plain text
 if they must have a tendency to immediately open it in Word, save as
 DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after
 making some changes.

You are aware that there is not the DOC format? The many
various Word programs use slightly different formats, and
rendering a document heavily depends on the current environment
Word is running in, e. g. which fonts are installed, even
which printer is installed - all this can have influence on
how the document is opened.

Furthermore, the DOCX format isn't really an open format. It
*claims* to be standardized, but it's not; even MICROS~1 didn't
implement it properly, and there are still blobs inside the
XML, which can lead to problems.

There are many problems you can encounter in import/export
settings. So the only way to be sure is to use a standardized
format.

I've worked in a setting where interoperability was the main
goal, because there were BSD, Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X and
even Windows machines, and our choice was OpenOffice, which
worked excellently across the platforms. It wouldn't have been
possible with MICROS~1 binary garbage in between. :-)



 I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the
 rarity, rather than me being the odd man out.

It *will* happen, just consider the costs and the growing
uncomfortability of those programs (not counting those who
regularly use pirated copies to have the same pictures at
home as they know them from work). :-)




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can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
hello,

i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine.
ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about
the flags.

in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine
which flags i wanted to enable and which not.

is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on
ports.

thanks in advance.
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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread Julien Cigar
some ports have OPTIONS, then you can use make config / make 
config-recursive (man ports)


others don't, then you can set them in /etc/make.conf, for example :

jci...@frodon ~ % cat /etc/make.conf
WITHOUT_APACHE=YES
WITHOUT_IPV6=YES
#WITHOUT_NLS=YES
WITHOUT_KDE=YES
WITHOUT_GNOME=YES

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/x11/rxvt-unicode}
WITHOUT_AFTERIMAGE=yes
.endif

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/editors/vim}
WITH_GTK2=yes
.endif

(of course you can always use make -DWITH_FOO -DWITHOUT_BAR clean 
install clean)


regards,
Julien

Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:

hello,

i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine.
ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about
the flags.

in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine
which flags i wanted to enable and which not.

is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on
ports.

thanks in advance.
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Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards

2010-06-08 Thread Frank Bonnet
OK thank you Antonio :-)


On 06/08/2010 03:11 PM, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
 This may be of help:
 
 http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-2805.html
 
 Cheers,
 Antonio
 
 2010/6/8 Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr:
 Hello All

 since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages

 The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu
 related but I am a bit confused in it.

 Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages
 if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill
 himself when it trap that kind of error messages.


 Thank you


 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721
 usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528
 usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928
 usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241
 usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373
 usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556
 usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152
 usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287
 usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 usec
 to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711
 usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 usec
 to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 usec
 to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2)
 Jun  8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325
 usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue)
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Re: which lang Freebsd developers are using.

2010-06-08 Thread Chris Rees
Which part of the system?

Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote. There's a bug report on
it!

On 8 Jun 2010 15:03, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote:

hello,

i was curious about the lang that FreeBSD developers use.

in gentoo linux his developers are using bash coding,in kde they use c++,in
FreeBSD which language do they use?

thanks
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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 hello,
 
 i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine.
 ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about
 the flags.
 
 in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine
 which flags i wanted to enable and which not.
 
 is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on
 ports.

I'm not perfectly clear on what you intend to question, but if
you want to know how to tetermine options for a certain port,
make config is used to set them.

Various port management software is also able to store predefined
options for port compilation in a central control file.

In order to find out more about ports, read man ports as it
explains everything very well.

There are also flags that are defined in /etc/make.conf, like
CFLAGS. Some ports allow setting OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS, e. g. mplayer.

You may be more clear in providing an example (example port and
flags, received message).



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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-08 Thread bdsfbsd

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:24:47 -0400, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:


On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jerry wrote:
[ ... ]
I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a  
serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist  
within the FreeBSD framework.


That's pretty much accurate, if you don't want to consider running  
FF+Java under Linux emulation.

[ ... ]


High-level religious arguments aside, could we get a little advice the for  
newbie who wants to try using FreeBSD, but needs Java to work with  
Firefox? (As this is the 'questions' list, and not the 'debate what fBSD  
devs ought to be working on' list.)


Here's what I know, for posterity sake..

Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1]

For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the  
ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at  
Update 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see  
there is diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8.


That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3]  
There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and  
linux-sun-jdk:


diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9
openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9)
jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is based on  
1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3))

linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20

It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for  
Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6?  
If so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At  
this time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9.



I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an  
older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK  
version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally  
along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know  
around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which  
JDK?', as I find that confusing.


Thanks,
Brian

[1] http://java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml
[2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jre
[3] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jdksektion=java
[4] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linux-firefox
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Re: which lang Freebsd developers are using.

2010-06-08 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:23 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 hello,
 
 i was curious about the lang that FreeBSD developers use.
 
 in gentoo linux his developers are using bash coding,in kde they use c++,in
 FreeBSD which language do they use?

All of them. :-)

The base system, for example, contains large portions of C. It
also has several parts of sh scripts (FreeBSD's default scripting
shell is the bourne shell, /bin/sh), as well as awk and m4 scripts.
Oh, and it uses the english language for text. :-)

There are various projects on FreeBSD, and many programming languages.
And as they exist, they are used. It's not that FreeBSD is based
upon _one_ programming or scripting language.




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Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards

2010-06-08 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr writes:

 OK thank you Antonio :-)

Also, see the FAQ entry if you haven't already.
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Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread parv
in message
aanlktil2gpibf2n2bir_eewmbqxru5l8wln0ebqru...@mail.gmail.com,
wrote Alejandro Imass thusly...

 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chip Camden
 sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
  On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote:
  On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Chip Camden
  sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
...
   Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office
   suite?  OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it
   up and open a spreadsheet.
 
  There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took
  minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware?
 
  I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz)
  with 4GB would be considered lo (sic) hardware. Everything
  else runs very quickly, even Windows 7 in VirtualBox. OOo is the
  only time I find myself waiting impatiently.
...
 Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java implementation,
 and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work with Sun's JRE
 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling your problem
 is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine.

Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package
without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word 
simple Excel files?

It took about 15 seconds of manual count to see an empty window
after typing openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo.  Hardware is ...

  Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100  @ 1.80GHz (1795.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
  ...
  avail memory = 3119153152 (2974 MB)
  ...
  ad4: 305245MB Hitachi HTS545032B9A300 PB3OC60G at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 
1.5Gb/s
  (5400 rpm)


pkg_info -rx openoffice | sort -fu shows ...

  Dependency: atk-1.28.0
  Dependency: bitstream-vera-1.10_4
  Dependency: cairo-1.8.8_1,1
  Dependency: compositeproto-0.4
  Dependency: damageproto-1.1.0_2
  Dependency: desktop-file-utils-0.15_1
  Dependency: encodings-1.0.2,1
  Dependency: expat-2.0.1_1
  Dependency: fixesproto-4.0
  Dependency: font-bh-ttf-1.0.0
  Dependency: font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0
  Dependency: font-misc-meltho-1.0.0_1
  Dependency: font-util-1.0.1
  Dependency: fontconfig-2.8.0,1
  Dependency: freetype2-2.3.11
  Dependency: gamin-0.1.10_3
  Dependency: gdbm-1.8.3_3
  Dependency: gettext-0.17_1
  Dependency: gio-fam-backend-2.22.4
  Dependency: glib-2.22.4
  Dependency: gnome-mime-data-2.18.0_3
  Dependency: gnome_subr-1.0
  Dependency: gtk-2.18.7_1
  Dependency: hicolor-icon-theme-0.12
  Dependency: icu-3.8.1_3
  Dependency: inputproto-1.5.0
  Dependency: jpeg-8_1
  Dependency: kbproto-1.0.3
  Dependency: libart_lgpl-2.3.20,1
  Dependency: libfontenc-1.0.4
  Dependency: libICE-1.0.4_1,1
  Dependency: libiconv-1.13.1_1
  Dependency: libpthread-stubs-0.3_3
  Dependency: libSM-1.1.0_1,1
  Dependency: libX11-1.2.1_1,1
  Dependency: libXau-1.0.4
  Dependency: libXaw-1.0.5_1,1
  Dependency: libxcb-1.5
  Dependency: libXcomposite-0.4.0,1
  Dependency: libXcursor-1.1.9_1
  Dependency: libXdamage-1.1.1
  Dependency: libXdmcp-1.0.2_1
  Dependency: libXext-1.0.5,1
  Dependency: libXfixes-4.0.3_1
  Dependency: libXft-2.1.14
  Dependency: libXi-1.2.1,1
  Dependency: libXinerama-1.0.3,1
  Dependency: libxml2-2.7.6_2
  Dependency: libXmu-1.0.4,1
  Dependency: libXp-1.0.0,1
  Dependency: libXpm-3.5.7
  Dependency: libXrandr-1.3.0
  Dependency: libXrender-0.9.4_1
  Dependency: libXt-1.0.5_1
  Dependency: mkfontdir-1.0.4
  Dependency: mkfontscale-1.0.6
  Dependency: pango-1.26.2_2
  Dependency: pcre-8.00
  Dependency: pixman-0.16.6
  Dependency: pkg-config-0.23_1
  Dependency: png-1.4.1_1
  Dependency: printproto-1.0.4
  Dependency: randrproto-1.3.0
  Dependency: renderproto-0.9.3
  Dependency: shared-mime-info-0.71
  Dependency: tiff-3.9.2_1
  Dependency: xcb-util-0.3.6_1
  Dependency: xextproto-7.0.5
  Dependency: xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.2
  Dependency: xineramaproto-1.1.2
  Dependency: xorg-fonts-truetype-7.4
  Dependency: xproto-7.0.15
  Depends on:
  Information for en-openoffice.org-US-3.0.0:


  - parv


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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
On 8 June 2010 14:47, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote:

 for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands,

 /usr/ports/x11/kde4  make install clean

 after these commands,the kde package asked me which flags i want to use.

 with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and
 when i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some
 flags.

 can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation
 of the packages?


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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 6/8/2010 9:50 AM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:
 On 8 June 2010 14:47, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands,

 /usr/ports/x11/kde4  make install clean

 after these commands,the kde package asked me which flags i want to use.

 with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and
 when i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some
 flags.

 can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation
 of the packages?




http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3718

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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:47:29 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands,
 
 /usr/ports/x11/kde4  make install clean
 
 after these commands,the kde package asked me which flags i want to use.

This is okay. As long as options haven't been defined before, they
are asked for interactively. For subsequent builds, they are stored.



 with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and when
 i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some flags.

A typical problem, the solution is easy: make config-recursive
will ask you PRIOR to any compiling for a specific port and its
dependencies. Before knowing about this fine mechanism, I also was
very annoyed of this forced interaction that stopped the building
process many times. :-)

The packages you can install via pkg_add have been compiled using
default options, which may or may not fit your particular needs.



 can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation
 of the packages?

I mentioned make config-recursive, but there are also tools like
portmaster, portmanager and portupgrade that allow you to remote-
control the ports system in a comfortable way.


There are other make targets that may be interesting, such as the
simple make config, or make rmconfig and its recursive variant.
See man 7 ports for a list of all available targets.



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Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 07 2010 22:12, Chris Hill wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 [...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that 
 I send them specs in Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using 
 some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different 
 format.  I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd 
 like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when 
 I must.
 
 I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and 
 really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo 
 foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, 
 so...
 
That's great -- I'll have to remember that one.

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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 +
Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello,
 
 i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my
 machine. ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive
 messages about the flags.
 
 in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to
 determine which flags i wanted to enable and which not.
 
 is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is
 based on ports.

The only similar mechanism is /etc/make.conf where you can put flags
such as USE_X11=yes or USE_GTK2=yes in order to build ports with X11 or
Gtk2 support.  Unlike Gentoo there's no central repository of valid
flags.

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Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 08/06/2010 15:43:42, p...@pair.com wrote:
 Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package
 without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word 
 simple Excel files?
 
 It took about 15 seconds of manual count to see an empty window
 after typing openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo.  Hardware is ...
 
   Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100  @ 1.80GHz (1795.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
   ...
   avail memory = 3119153152 (2974 MB)
   ...
   ad4: 305245MB Hitachi HTS545032B9A300 PB3OC60G at ata2-master UDMA100 
 SATA 1.5Gb/s
   (5400 rpm)

I wonder about that.  I'm sure there are quite a few pkgs where some of
the registered dependencies are really optional, and the same pkg would
work either with or without them.  I know that databases/phpMyAdmin,
which I maintain is like that.

I did spend some time reading up on 'pkg_add -M' and 'pkg_add -S' -- in
theory it should be possible to use pkg_add -M to extract the pkg
contents, feed that into the stdin of a script, which pops up a dialogue
allowing you to make those choices, edits the pkg on the way past and
then feeds it to 'pkg_add -S' for final installation.  Can't see how to
force something like that to happen from a normal invocation of
pkg_add(1) though.

Would be a nice addition -- you could also emulate NOPORTDOCS and
NOPORTEXAMPLES, except entirely with pkgs that way.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-08 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM,  bdsf...@att.net wrote:
 Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1]

 For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the
 ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at Update
 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see there is
 diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8.

 That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3]
 There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and
 linux-sun-jdk:

 diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9
 openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9)
 jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is based on
 1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3))
 linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20

The problem is that java/jdk16 hasn't been updated for a LONG
time. I gave up hope that it will be updated, and I've had to install
java/openjdk6 instead, just to be able to start Freenet (from
http://freenetproject.org/), because Freenet wouldn't start otherwise
due to some big XML vulnerability in our old not yet updated
java/jdk16.

Maybe the problem is similar with Firefox 3.6?

 It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for
 Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6? If
 so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At this
 time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9.


 I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an
 older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK
 version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally
 along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know
 around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which JDK?',
 as I find that confusing.

 Thanks,
 Brian

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spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... .

2010-06-08 Thread Gary Kline

anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? 

child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling
production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line
2585.


seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but
beyond that, i'm wedged.  i would like to install dspam
*with* this--spamassassin, if that will work.  not entirely
sure how to make that happen.

gary


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Re: Atheros AR8131 Ethernet hangs shutdown

2010-06-08 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 06/07/2010 08:03 AM, Warren Block wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:
 
 I recently had the chance to play with a Foxconn NetBox-nT330i. It's
 based off an Atom 330 CPU and an nForce MCP79 chipset. All aspects of
 this device appear to function quite well with 8.1-BETA1, and it's
 diminutive stature is quite cute.

 The only issue I have encountered with it thus far is a seeming
 propensity for it to lock up on shutdown or reboot if the Atheros AR8131
 ethernet adapter is not connected to anything. It gets as far as
 displaying the 'Uptime' line, then hangs; however, when connected, it
 will display the uptime message, then indicate that the alc0 interface
 is going UP and DOWN, then continue.
 
 If it's like the alc setup on an Acer Aspire One D250, the 10/100 alc
 chip is used with a 10/100/1000 Atheros PHY.  Don't remember the exact
 symptoms, but it only worked right after manually setting the media to
 100baseTX.  That was on a gigabit network, but might also help with no
 cable connected.
 
 Rebuilding the kernel without the alc device ought to also work, but is
 less elegant.

I'm fairly certain it's gigabit the whole way, as I get transfer rates
greater than 12 megabytes per second. Unfortunately, forcing the phy to
100baseTX/full-duplex does not alter the symptoms at all, and just makes
transfers slower.

On one of the tests, issuing a shutdown -p after unplugging the ethernet
cord caused it to panic and reboot at the point it usually freezes, and
thereafter freeze during startup when running netif; I wasn't able to
copy down the panic info, though, as the reboot happened within half a
second. Alas, this box lacks obvious serial ports.

I may investigate building the kernel without the alc device, though,
and see if unloading the kld prior to shutdown allows the system to
continue past that point.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread Greg Larkin
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Bruce Cran wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 +
 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hello,

 i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my
 machine. ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive
 messages about the flags.

 in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to
 determine which flags i wanted to enable and which not.

 is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is
 based on ports.
 
 The only similar mechanism is /etc/make.conf where you can put flags
 such as USE_X11=yes or USE_GTK2=yes in order to build ports with X11 or
 Gtk2 support.  Unlike Gentoo there's no central repository of valid
 flags.
 

Have you looked at /usr/ports/KNOBS?  There a large number of
system-level configuration options in there, and you can set them in
/etc/make.conf or on the make command line.  For instance, I use the
following /etc/make.conf entries when I'm building ports for headless
servers with minimal extra installed files:

WITHOUT_X11=yes
WITHOUT_NLS=yes
NOPORTDOCS=yes
NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes

The entries in KNOBS are enabled/disabled with WITH_KNOB=yes or
WITHOUT_KNOB=yes instead of USE_KNOB.  USE_* directives are
typically included in port Makefiles to indicate a dependency on a
certain package, e.g.:

USE_MYSQL=  yes # This port depends on MySQL client

There's are more details on all of this here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/makefile-options.html

Hope that helps,
Greg
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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread b. f.
Just to clarify some of the earlier comments, the ports knobs that can
be used to define certain build options are automatically persistent
only if the knobs are defined as part of the OPTIONS framework, and if
you don't subsequently delete the /var/db/port/*/options files, either
directly or via the rmconfig target.  You can reset the values of
these knobs by re-running the config target.  If you do that, it is
usually best to run rmconfig first, because obsolete knobs aren't
cleared by config, and can clutter up the options files, and thus your
build environment.  The first time you build a port, and every time
thereafter that the available OPTIONS are changed for a port, you will
be prompted to reconfigure, unless you set BATCH in your build
environment, either directly or via switches in portmaster or
portupgrade -- in which case a prior choice for a knob setting will be
used, if you have made one, or the default value, if you have not.

There are also some knobs that are _not_ OPTIONS, and so must be
defined in the build environment each time the port is
built/installed/packaged.  These knobs are usually either knobs that
were meant to be used for a lot of ports (e.g. WITHOUT_X11), or knobs
from older ports that weren't converted to the OPTIONS framework, or
experimental/maintainer knobs that the maintainer didn't want to
expose for wider use.  You can find these, for example,  by visual
inspection of the port Makefiles, by using sed/grep/awk on the port
Makefiles, or by using something like the ports-mgmt/portsopt port.
You can make these knobs persistent by using the ports-mgmt/portconf
port, or the more complicated sysutils/penv port, or by adding them to
pkgtools.conf(5) from the ports-mgmt/portupgrade* ports, or by adding
them to some included makefile.  /etc/make.conf exists partly for this
purpose.  But it is used for all invocations of make by default, even
for the base system and for other software that is not in ports, so it
is a good idea to limit the scope of your knob settings in this file
by making the definitions conditional, in order to avoid polluting
other builds.  You can do this, for example, by using statements like:

.if${.CURDIR:M*/usr/ports/*}
#insert knobs for all ports here
WITHOUT_FOO=yes
.endif

.if${.CURDIR:M*/usr/ports/devel/bar*}
#insert knobs for the devel/bar port here
WITHOUT_BAR_DEBUG=yes
.endif

or by using other makefile directives.  (This assumes of course, that
you haven't changed PORTSDIR to be something other than /usr/ports.)

It usually takes some time and effort to determine which settings are
best for you, for all of your ports, if you need to customize them --
so be patient.  And if you really liked Portage, there is an
experimental project to use Portage on FreeBSD (although I'm not sure
whether this means stock FreeBSD, or a hybrid system with a FreeBSD
kernel and GNU/LInux userland) that you may want to monitor:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/index.xml


b.
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Re: can i use flags at once?

2010-06-08 Thread b. f.
On 6/8/10, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Just to clarify some of the earlier comments, the ports knobs that can
 be used to define certain build options are automatically persistent
 only if the knobs are defined as part of the OPTIONS framework, and if
 you don't subsequently delete the /var/db/port/*/options files, either

Oops: that should be: /var/db/ports/*/options.

b.
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dbus_enable and hald_enable

2010-06-08 Thread Paweł Grzyb
Hello everybody,

   can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable=YES and
hald_enable=YES in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function?

Regards,
Pawel
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Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable

2010-06-08 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:54:23 +0200, Paweł Grzyb pg.dev...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable=YES and
 hald_enable=YES in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function?

Those enable the startup of the DBUS and HAL services via their
control files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Those services are often
needed for X, and programs related to X (KDE, Gnome, Xfce, and
many programs that have Use DBUS for something compile time
options set).

Sadly, those don't provide man dbus or man hal in a very
impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on
the web, but it may already be outdated.

If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what
to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-)

Removing the entries in /etc/rc.conf may cause problems for some
of your programs, or may even make your X stop working properly.


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Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Huff

Polytropon writes:

  can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable=YES and
   hald_enable=YES in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function?
  
  Sadly, those don't provide man dbus or man hal in a very
  impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on
  the web, but it may already be outdated.

Try man hald.

  If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what
  to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-)

I believe they involved with plug-and-play devices.


Robert Huff

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Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable

2010-06-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:29:38 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:54:23 +0200, Paweł Grzyb pg.dev...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello everybody,
  
 can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable=YES and
  hald_enable=YES in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function?
 
 Those enable the startup of the DBUS and HAL services via their
 control files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Those services are often
 needed for X, and programs related to X (KDE, Gnome, Xfce, and
 many programs that have Use DBUS for something compile time
 options set).
 
 Sadly, those don't provide man dbus or man hal in a very
 impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on
 the web, but it may already be outdated.
 
 If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what
 to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-)

I believe HAL will be going away fairly soon, with its functionality
being merged into udev on Linux.

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Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable

2010-06-08 Thread Paweł Grzyb
Thank you for your help!

Regards,
Pawel

W dniu 8 czerwca 2010 23:57 użytkownik Paul Schmehl 
pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com napisał:

 --On Tuesday, June 08, 2010 23:29:38 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de
 wrote:


 If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what
 to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-)


 hald is an interface between devices and programs.  It listens for
 attachment/detachment of input devices (keyboard, mouse, etc.) and informs
 listening programs of those events.

 dbus is an interprocess communication system that allows programs to
 connect to and exchange messages with other programs.  It allows the kernel,
 for example, to interact with your desktop.  Rather than you interacting
 directly with the kernel, dbus acts as a middle man, controlling the
 communications between the two and only allowing you to perform actions
 which are considered safe or reasonable.

 The two work together, for example, to let your desktop know when you
 connect a new mouse or type on your keyboard.

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Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable

2010-06-08 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On Tuesday, June 08, 2010 23:29:38 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:


If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what
to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-)



hald is an interface between devices and programs.  It listens for 
attachment/detachment of input devices (keyboard, mouse, etc.) and informs 
listening programs of those events.


dbus is an interprocess communication system that allows programs to connect to 
and exchange messages with other programs.  It allows the kernel, for example, 
to interact with your desktop.  Rather than you interacting directly with the 
kernel, dbus acts as a middle man, controlling the communications between the 
two and only allowing you to perform actions which are considered safe or 
reasonable.


The two work together, for example, to let your desktop know when you connect a 
new mouse or type on your keyboard.


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Re: spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... .

2010-06-08 Thread RW
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:28 -0700
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 
   anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? 
 
 child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling
 production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line
 2585.

This was discussed on the ports list some time ago - I don't think they
came to any real conclusion. Someone said that sa-update had solved it,
someone fixed it by deleting and then reinstalling relevant ports.

   seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but
   beyond that, i'm wedged.  i would like to install dspam
   *with* this--spamassassin, if that will work.  not entirely
   sure how to make that happen.

The easiest way to do that is to pipe it though dspam 

  dspam --stdout --deliver=innocent,spam

and then add an SA header test like:

  header   DS_SPAMX-DSPAM-Result =~ /^Spam/
  tflags   DS_SPAMlearn
  scoreDS_SPAM3.5 
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Re: spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... .

2010-06-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 11:46:54PM +0100, RW wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:28 -0700
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  
  anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? 
  
  child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling
  production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line
  2585.
 
 This was discussed on the ports list some time ago - I don't think they
 came to any real conclusion. Someone said that sa-update had solved it,
 someone fixed it by deleting and then reinstalling relevant ports.
 
  seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but
  beyond that, i'm wedged.  i would like to install dspam
  *with* this--spamassassin, if that will work.  not entirely
  sure how to make that happen.
 
 The easiest way to do that is to pipe it though dspam 
 
   dspam --stdout --deliver=innocent,spam
 

rats.  i can't built dspam due to some database troubles.
i'll see if there is a sa-update available.

i sub to ports, but missed this one.  ...appreciate the tips.

-g

 and then add an SA header test like:
 
   header   DS_SPAMX-DSPAM-Result =~ /^Spam/
   tflags   DS_SPAMlearn
   scoreDS_SPAM3.5 
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adding output lines to my .cshrc breaks sftp and scp ...

2010-06-08 Thread Goh Sanda


I added a few lines to the bottom of my standard FreeBSD .cshrc file:

echo 
w
echo 

Just to show me what is going on each time I log in.

The problem is, when I try to scp a file to the system, I get 'w' output echo'd 
to me, and no actual scp.

sftp fails as well - I can no longer log in via sftp, and instead get this 
error:

Received message too long 169882682

I don't understand why .cshrc output is breaking non-interactive SSH file 
transfer.

Is there a way to customize my .cshrc output while still retaining scp/sftp 
functionality ?

Thank you.


  
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Colors, mutt, termcap/terminfo

2010-06-08 Thread Chip Camden
I finally got 256 colors working with mutt and zsh on FreeBSD.  Even though 
both of
these programs apparently use terminfo rather than termcap, a termcap
entry must exist for your TERM setting, or they both complain.

I had tried that before, but I was missing one key ingredient.  The environment
variable TERMCAP needed to be set to the path of the termcap file, even
if it is /etc/termcap.  Apparently, if TERMCAP isn't set, a built-in
termcap table is used instead.

The terminfo setting I wanted was rxvt-256color, which existed in
terminfo but not in termcap.  So, I edited /etc/termcap to include a
setting for rxvt-256color, export TERMCAP=/etc/termcap, export
TERM=rxvt-256color, and all is now right with the world.

Of course, I only want to use 256 colors if I'm running under rxvt.  So I
wrote a shell script to start mutt that tests for that and sets an
environment variable MUTT_COLORS to the name of a file that includes my
mutt color settings (either .mutt-color256 or .mutt-color8).  Then, in
.muttrc:

source ~/$MUTT_COLORS

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Re: adding output lines to my .cshrc breaks sftp and scp ...

2010-06-08 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:41:54 -0700 (PDT), Goh Sanda x4500f...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 I added a few lines to the bottom of my standard FreeBSD .cshrc file:
 
 echo 
 w
 echo 
 
 Just to show me what is going on each time I log in.

Use ~/.login for command that should be executed after you log in.
The corresponding system-wide file is /etc/csh.login.



 I don't understand why .cshrc output is breaking non-interactive
 SSH file transfer.

Because .cshrc is read (and that's why executed) every time a 
shell is requested.



 Is there a way to customize my .cshrc output while still retaining
 scp/sftp functionality ?

Simply use ~/.cshrc for settings, and ~/.login for real commands.



A better explaination can be found in man csh, let me quote:

Startup and shutdown
A  login  shell  begins  by  executing  commands  from the system files
/etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/csh.login.   It  then  executes  commands  from
files  in  the  user's  home  directory:  first  ~/.tcshrc  (+)  or, if
~/.tcshrc is not found, ~/.cshrc, then ~/.history (or the value of  the
histfile shell variable), then ~/.login, and finally ~/.cshdirs (or the
value of  the  dirsfile  shell  variable)  (+).   The  shell  may  read
/etc/csh.login  before  instead  of  after /etc/csh.cshrc, and ~/.login
before instead of after ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc  and  ~/.history,  if  so
compiled; see the version shell variable. (+)

Non-login  shells read only /etc/csh.cshrc and ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc on
startup.

For examples of startup  files,  please  consult  http://tcshrc.source-
forge.net.

Commands  like  stty(1)  and  tset(1),  which need be run only once per
login, usually go in one's ~/.login file.  Users who need  to  use  the
same  set  of  files with both csh(1) and tcsh can have only a ~/.cshrc
which checks for the existence of the tcsh shell variable (q.v.) before
using  tcsh-specific  commands,  or  can  have  both  a  ~/.cshrc and a
~/.tcshrc which sources (see the builtin command) ~/.cshrc.   The  rest
of  this manual uses `~/.tcshrc' to mean `~/.tcshrc or, if ~/.tcshrc is
not found, ~/.cshrc'.






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Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 03:55:40PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
  I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text. 
 
 And five minutes later, they call you by phone and ask how they can
 edit the PDF file... :-)

Hah.  Good point.

. . . though in cases where they'll take PDF, it's usually for something
like an invoice, so this doesn't come up much in practice.


 
 Just a friendly sidenote:
 
  On
  the other hand, clients who prefer Word DOC(X) but will take plain text
  if they must have a tendency to immediately open it in Word, save as
  DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after
  making some changes.
 
 You are aware that there is not the DOC format? The many
 various Word programs use slightly different formats, and
 rendering a document heavily depends on the current environment
 Word is running in, e. g. which fonts are installed, even
 which printer is installed - all this can have influence on
 how the document is opened.

Yeah, I'm fully aware.  That's why I said DOC(X) -- because it's DOC (any
version) or DOCX.  It's easier to say DOC(X) than some variation of DOC
or DOCX.


 
 Furthermore, the DOCX format isn't really an open format. It
 *claims* to be standardized, but it's not; even MICROS~1 didn't
 implement it properly, and there are still blobs inside the
 XML, which can lead to problems.

I think Microsoft's mis-implementation (according to the standard) was
quite intentional.


 
 There are many problems you can encounter in import/export
 settings. So the only way to be sure is to use a standardized
 format.

My preference is plaintext.  It doesn't get much more standard than
that.


 
 I've worked in a setting where interoperability was the main
 goal, because there were BSD, Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X and
 even Windows machines, and our choice was OpenOffice, which
 worked excellently across the platforms. It wouldn't have been
 possible with MICROS~1 binary garbage in between. :-)

OpenOffice.org is a heinous snarl of cat hair and feces, from my
perspective.  It's little better than MS Office, frankly.

Your mileage obviously varies.


 
 
 
  I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the
  rarity, rather than me being the odd man out.
 
 It *will* happen, just consider the costs and the growing
 uncomfortability of those programs (not counting those who
 regularly use pirated copies to have the same pictures at
 home as they know them from work). :-)

Actually, pirating is one of the main reasons MS Office is the dominant
office suite in general use -- just as it is with MS Windows, too.
There's not as much reason to switch to something free when the Microsoft
option is free too.  This might seem like kind of a foreign concept to
many users of open source software, but I've discovered that even when
they don't *respect* copyright law, open source software users and
developers tend to *follow* copyright law a lot more diligently than the
general run of computer-using humanity.

From what I've seen, people who use nothing but Microsoft, Adobe, and
similar relentlessly closed-source consumer software are much more likely
to think *nothing* of downloading cracked versions of commercial software
than open source software users.  That includes people like me, who
simply don't use pirated software and believe that copyright law as a
whole is a suppurating pustule on the face of modern civilization.  Then,
of course, if I get into a discussion of the ethicality of copyright law
with one of those hypocrites, he almost invariably ends up accusing me of
rejecting the ethicality of copyright law for no deeper reason other than
trying to justify stealing.

Ironic -- don't you think?

I'm a bit off-topic.  Here's the on-topic:

I wish I'd find a foolproof, simple, transparent way for me to see and
edit well-formatted plain text no matter what nonsense bloated featuritis
infected office suite anyone else wanted to use.

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nVidia motherboards

2010-06-08 Thread Tim Judd
I thought I saw even some partial support for nVidia motherboards..
but can't find it again.

I can't get even get the kernel to load.  it's an Atom 32-bit board
and would like to find that reference again.


If you can help me look I'd love the help.


--Tim
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Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 08:16:03AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
 On Jun 07 2010 22:12, Chris Hill wrote:
  On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote:
  
  [...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that 
  I send them specs in Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using 
  some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different 
  format.  I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd 
  like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when 
  I must.
  
  I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and 
  really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo 
  foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, 
  so...
  
 That's great -- I'll have to remember that one.

I sorta did that once.  I sent someone a plaintext file.  He double
clicked the file, causing it to automatically open in Notepad, which
puked on my Unix-style linebreaks.  He asked me to give it to him in DOC
format.  I said he should just open it in another application, at which
point he gave me his pathetic sob story about how he always double
clicked a file to open it and if it doesn't work that way he can't open
the file et cetera, et alii, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

To make a long story short (too late), I changed the filename from
filename.txt to filename.doc and sent it to him again.  He
double-clicked, and it automatically opened the file in Word.  I still
find the gall of the man kind of surprising, demanding that I find some
way to save the file in DOC format and re-email it to him when he could
just open MS Word and use File  Open to browse to the file.  I seem to
recall he didn't want to be bothered figuring out how to Save As to
change it into DOC format himself, either, even if he did get it open in
MS Word, which makes the whole situation even more bizarre and
aggravating for me.

It was just the once that I did that, though.  Aside from 1) requests for
resumes and 2) files that I originally got from someone else in MS Office
file formats, I haven't really had any need to deal with the DOC(X) and
other MS Office formats.

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Re: office apps

2010-06-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 04:43:42AM -1000, p...@pair.com wrote:
 in message
 aanlktil2gpibf2n2bir_eewmbqxru5l8wln0ebqru...@mail.gmail.com,
 wrote Alejandro Imass thusly...
 
  Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java implementation,
  and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work with Sun's JRE
  6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling your problem
  is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine.
 
 Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package
 without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word 
 simple Excel files?

With my old OO.o install (from package, not port), I haven't had any
problems.  The thing even exports to PDF without Java.

Since then, however, I haven't been able to find a working OO.o binary
package for FreeBSD, so I haven't upgraded my OO.o version.


 
 It took about 15 seconds of manual count to see an empty window
 after typing openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo.  Hardware is ...

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  Empty window?

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Install path not found

2010-06-08 Thread Super Biscuit
Kdelibs stops with 
Code:
libtool: install: error: cannot install `libkunittest.la' to a 
directory not ending in /usr/local/lib
.

Changing to the directory and grepping for /usr/local/lib returns 
Code:
tima# cat 
/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/kunittest/Makefile|grep 
/usr/local/lib
LIBART_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lart_lgpl_2 -lm
LIBART_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib
LIBPCRE = -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib -lpcreposix -lpcre
LIBXML_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lxml2 -lz -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -lm
LIBXML_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib
LIBXSLT_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lxslt -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm
LIBXSLT_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib
LIB_CUPS = -lcups -L/usr/local/lib -lgnutls -lz -pthread -lm -lcrypt
LIB_EXR = -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -lIlmImf -lz -lImath -lHalf -lIex 
-lIlmThread  
X_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib
all_libraries = -L${exec_prefix}/lib -L/usr/local/lib   
qt_libraries = /usr/local/lib
x_libraries = /usr/local/lib
tima#
Which is the path for the install? To me it looks like 
Code:
all_libraries = -L${exec_prefix}/lib -L/usr/local/lib
, but I am not sure.



  
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Configure PMBR to Find Loader on GPT Disk

2010-06-08 Thread Jason C. Wells

After setting up a GPT disk and installing the boot blocks with:

   # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ad4

The system wants to boot:

   0:ad(0p2)/boot/kernel/kernel

I manually intervene to cause the system to boot:

   1:ad(5p8)/boot/loader

How do I configure the boot blocks to do this without human intervention 
on a GPT system?  boot0cfg doesn't seem to be the correct tool for this job.


Thanks,
Jason
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TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... .

2010-06-08 Thread Gary Kline
hi y'all!

for a cchange i have decided not to bother/continue bothering
roland.  offlist.  he has set me up with enough of a starter that
 90% of my book is typeset.  i have a few other tex/latex
questions for anybody in the extreme east of Zulu time.  or
even points west to the dateline. 

below is where my main protagonist, erik-the-geek, is showing a
friend his unix CRT and a USENET newsgroup.  ---this is circa
1992.

i see that i've used per se.  in my ascii type i cannot type
the e-aigu and i cannot find it in any of the docs.  12-15 years
ago when i was first messing with tex i remember there =was= a
way of telling tex to type the diacritical mark over the e

the  most important part is that i want the demo blurb
[[modified from usenet when i drafted this]] in typewriter
typeface. the docs i googled said that {\tt text blah blah }
would put the text between the braces in typewriter-font.

i would like to make the text smaller that the surrounding text.
so my last question is: how do i tell tex/latex to make the
denoted text in tt font and with 9pt size?  the \\ should give
the ragged edge as it appeared on the tube.  this works in
{verse} anyway.   i'm not sure what to do at the bottom of the
post; i figure trial/error will anser that.

here is the bit of the novel that i need help with.  any/all help
is much appreciated.

+

He added, ``There are some news groups on the Net that have little to do
with computers, per se.  There are groups that argue about politics,
religion, science, art, you name it.  I don't waste my time with those.''

``Can you show me?'' she said.

``Sure,'' Erik said, and drove back to the table where his hardware sat.
He typed a few keystrokes on the keyboard and watched the terminal.

``I'm bringing up the news groups,'' he said.  A moment later when the
terminal
screen displayed a list, Erik typed several more keys.

``Now what am I looking at?''  Bonnie asked some seconds later.

``Okay, this is one of the groups where you'll find endless arguments.
This is the newsgroup called `talk.abortion.'  Now the first article here
is this one--'' Erik typed another key and a brief paragraph displayed:

{\tt chris\_sm...@holyrose.mass.edu Christopher L. Z. Smith

Masturbation is wrong

I think that not only is abortion the taking of an innocent living life,\\
but that for men especially, masturbation is WRONG.  When we males masturbate,\\
we are murdering countless millions of sperm which are, in my view,\\
imbued with that spark of infinity which we call GOD.  Yes, I realize that\\
sperm are genetically haploid but I still think and masturbation is Wrong!\\
Masturbation is a SIN!\\

Yours in Holy Opposition,

--

Chris Smith, Electronically spreading the Holy Truth.}

Bonnie finished the note and looked at Erik. [[[ story continues]]]

+++

that's about it.  if anybody can clue me in here, the answers
will help me with the the few other places that could,
optionally, use different fonts than the default.  

gary



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Re: TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... .

2010-06-08 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

 i see that i've used per se.  in my ascii type i cannot type
 the e-aigu and i cannot find it in any of the docs.  12-15 years
 ago when i was first messing with tex i remember there =was= a
 way of telling tex to type the diacritical mark over the e

First remark, per se being latin takes no accute accent.

But you should be able to use back-slash, single quote, letter e, to
get a e-accute

 i would like to make the text smaller that the surrounding text.
 so my last question is: how do i tell tex/latex to make the

back-slash small?

Olivier
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