Re: Question on packages and ports (and versions)

2010-06-11 Thread Antonio Vieiro
Hi,

Ah, I see.

So if I need a more advanced version of some software, that has been
installed as a package, I can use portupgrade (or other port
management tools) to upgrade the package to a port. Am I right?

Thanks,
Antonio

(As a newbie I'm somewhat concerned about keeping consistency between
package and port versions, but I suppose this is handled by port
management tools automagically)

2010/6/10 Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se:

 A package is best seen as simply a pre-compiled port, i.e. packages are
 built from ports. After it has been installed there is no
 difference between software installed via ports or software installed
 via packages.




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Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-11 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 10 June 2010 18:30:52 Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 10/06/2010 17:12:50, Jerry wrote:
  On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200
 
  Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za articulated:
 
  Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the
  load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase
  care so little about their reputation or the impression this is
  giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their
  competence and diligence.
 
  I have employed VERP with mailing lists that I controlled. I never
  noticed any adverse effects. I know of several technical lists
  like Dovecot that employ it. Obviously, they find it useful.

 VERP itself is reasonably lightweight, as it modifies the envelope
 sender address -- something that can be applied during processing by the
 MTA as part of sending the message.

 As far as mail delivery goes, that's a very different story -- it
 goes from one message with tens of thousands of recipients, to tens
 of thousands of messages each with one recipient.

Exactly - you can't batch up all the messages for users at the same domain 
because they now have different envelope senders. The impact of that on your 
mail delivery system (and the receiver's SMTP receiving system) depends on 
whether you have lots of individual subscribers, or several large groups.

Having said that, I looked up VERP last night to check that I was right about 
the extra load, and came across a reference to VERP being the idea of DJB, 
and being acceptable to qmail users because there's no penalty load - qmail 
never batches up messages for the same domain, always sending each one 
individually. Is that true? It seems an odd design decision to me.

Jonathan
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Re: Question on packages and ports (and versions)

2010-06-11 Thread Eitan Adler
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Antonio Vieiro
anto...@antonioshome.net wrote:
 Hi,

 Ah, I see.

 So if I need a more advanced version of some software, that has been
 installed as a package, I can use portupgrade (or other port
 management tools) to upgrade the package to a port. Am I right?
The packages are built from the ports tree itself. Therefore if your
ports tree matches the one that is used to build the packages exactly
you will have no problems.
If your ports tree is newer you will have no problems attempting to
upgrade using a port.
However if you want to use packages after you upgraded via ports and
the build cluster has yet to catch up to your version the package may
depend on an old version and see to install it.

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Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64?

2010-06-11 Thread Michel Talon
Martin Cracauer wrote:

 Right now I think there's a general lack of people building CMUCL
 binaries, BTW.

There are recent cmucl binaries built here:
http://common-lisp.net/project/cmucl/downloads/snapshots/2009/01/
for freebsd 7 and freebsd 8.
I think this is for x86, not x86-64 but they should work, it is not
clear for me if cmucl makes use of 64 bits anyways (maxima doesn't).

Unfortunately there are not more recent snapshots for freebsd 8 and no
freebsd snapshots at all since 2010.

In january 2010 there is the comment:

The FreeBSD binaries I had uploaded for the snapshot were flawed: I
just discovered that I accidentally built them without Unicode
support.  To avoid confusion, these binaries have been removed.

-- Alex Goncharov, 2010-03-30


Being a maxima user i am very attached to cmucl which works very well
with maxima (faster than sbcl), and i have in the past compiled cmucl
using older cmucl versions, which works quite easily. Here i am afraid
that Alex Goncharov has encountered some problem, and also that Darwin,
Linux and NetBSD support were considered more important ...


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MPCUSTOMER: Possible culprit

2010-06-11 Thread Jerry
Just posted on the GNUPG mail forum:

quote
The culprit was supp...@resell.biz - I unsubscribed this address and
banned it from further subscriptions
/quote

Evidently, they were able to find who how compromised their mail system.


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resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
hello,

in my machine i have gentoo and freebsd installed.

i was using gentoo until i installed successfully FBSD,now i want to make my
FBSD slice bigger..

i have 4 slices:

ad0s1-gentoo
ad0s2-linux swap
ad0s3-free space (no type)
ad0s4-FBSD
ad0s4a-/
ad0s4b-FBSD swap
ad0s4c-/home

how can i make my ad0s4a and ad0s4c slices bigger?
P.S.: i want to take space from ad0s3

thanks in advance
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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, June 11, 2010 a las 11:30:00AM -0200, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas 
escribió:

 hello,
 
 in my machine i have gentoo and freebsd installed.
 
 i was using gentoo until i installed successfully FBSD,now i want to make my
 FBSD slice bigger..
 
 i have 4 slices:
 
 ad0s1-gentoo
 ad0s2-linux swap
 ad0s3-free space (no type)
 ad0s4-FBSD
 ad0s4a-/
 ad0s4b-FBSD swap
 ad0s4c-/home
 
 how can i make my ad0s4a and ad0s4c slices bigger?

The only way is making a DUMP to some other device (like USB) or to some
other machine in the network, boot from DVD an rescue system,
re-slice/re-size ad0s4 and RESTORE the dumps.

 P.S.: i want to take space from ad0s3

You may use the entire ad0s3 or slice it with sysinstall, make file
system(s) and mount them onto your existing system.

HIH

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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Rolf Nielsen

2010-06-11 15:30, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas skrev:

hello,

in my machine i have gentoo and freebsd installed.

i was using gentoo until i installed successfully FBSD,now i want to make my
FBSD slice bigger..

i have 4 slices:

ad0s1-gentoo
ad0s2-linux swap
ad0s3-free space (no type)
ad0s4-FBSD
ad0s4a-/
ad0s4b-FBSD swap
ad0s4c-/home

how can i make my ad0s4a and ad0s4c slices bigger?
P.S.: i want to take space from ad0s3

thanks in advance
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Firstly, ad0s4 is slice. ad0s4a and ad0s4c are not slices, but 
partitions within the ad0s4 slice.
Secondly, the c partition of ANY slice is expected to cover the entire 
slice, i.e. NOT be used for a file system. Perhaps it is possible to do 
so, but it is not recommended. For historical reasons, I've been told, 
and that history goes farther back than my *nix experience, and I never 
researched it further. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us.


With that in mind, if I were you, I'd backup the / and /home partitions, 
delete the s4 slice and make the s3 slice cover the combined space of 
the current s3 and s4 slices (using either fdisk directly or 
sysinstall's interactive frontend to fdisk) without touching s1 and s2, 
and then partition the new s3 like this.


ad0s3a -- /
ad0s3b -- swap
ad0s3d -- /home

To make backups, just boot into single user and do not mount / rw. 
You'll need some extra storage, e.g. a USB disk, to store the backup.
To do the reslicing, repartitioning and restoring the backups, you'll 
need to boot from some other medium, e.g. the LiveFS CD. When making and 
restoring the backups, you may also need to have a writable /tmp 
directory. You can accomplish this by


mdmfs -M -S -s 20m md /tmp

which will give you a 20 MB filesystem stored in RAM with soft-updates 
disabled. That should be sufficient.


This is how I would do it. Perhaps someone else has a better, simpler 
approach.

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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
thanks for the information but
the point is that i don't know how to merge s4 and s3 with sysinstall.
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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 07:17:23PM +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:

 thanks for the information but
 the point is that i don't know how to merge s4 and s3 with sysinstall.

You just delete those two slices and then make a new s3 that contains 
all the space of both.

jerry


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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
ok,but if i delete this 2 slices then i will delete my entire system..

then should i have to install it from the beggining,but i don't want to do
that.
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error with linux-f10-flashplugin10

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
hello,

while i am trying to install the port flashplugin i came up with this error.

fetch:
 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz:
 size mismatch: expected 4050435, actual 4760657
 fetch:
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.0r45/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz:
 File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)


i have tryed to install it as a package but it failed too.


thanks in advance
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Problems with textproc/iso8879 port?

2010-06-11 Thread Antonio Vieiro

Hi all,

I'm trying to install port iso8879 in 8.0-RELEASE (needed by docbook 
and by gnome and wxgtk28) and I'm getting the problem below.


I contacted the maintainer without success. Any ideas, anyone?

Thanks in advance,
Antonio

[r...@casa /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879]# make
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
===  Extracting for iso8879-1986_2
= MD5 Checksum OK for isoENTS.zip.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for isoENTS.zip.
===  Patching for iso8879-1986_2
===   iso8879-1986_2 depends on executable: unzip - found
===  Configuring for iso8879-1986_2
[r...@casa /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879]# make install
===  Installing for iso8879-1986_2
===   iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed
Archive:  /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip
caution: filename not matched:  -d
caution: filename not matched:  /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879
*** Error code 11

If I remove the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip and try again 
the build fails too:


[r...@casa /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879]# make install
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
= isoENTS.zip doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/kuriyama/.

isoENTS.zip   100% of   20 kB   25 kBps
===  Extracting for iso8879-1986_2
= MD5 Checksum OK for isoENTS.zip.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for isoENTS.zip.
===  Patching for iso8879-1986_2
===   iso8879-1986_2 depends on executable: unzip - found
===  Configuring for iso8879-1986_2
===  Installing for iso8879-1986_2
===   iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed
Archive:  /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip
caution: filename not matched:  -d
caution: filename not matched:  /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879
*** Error code 11

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Re: Problems with textproc/iso8879 port?

2010-06-11 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:02:47 +0200
Antonio Vieiro anto...@antonioshome.net wrote:

 I'm trying to install port iso8879 in 8.0-RELEASE (needed by
 docbook and by gnome and wxgtk28) and I'm getting the problem below.
 
 I contacted the maintainer without success. Any ideas, anyone?

 ===  Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed
 Archive:  /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip
 caution: filename not matched:  -d
 caution: filename not matched:  /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879
 *** Error code 11
 
 If I remove the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip and try
 again the build fails too:

It looks like a problem with the zip command in
textproc/iso8879/Makefile:

@${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES} -d ${INSTDIR}

I don't know what the solution is, but
http://installingcats.com/2008/05/23/caution-filename-not-matched-unzipping-multiple-files/
explains what the error means.

-- 
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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

2010-06-11 19:17, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas skrev:

ok,but if i delete this 2 slices then i will delete my entire system..

then should i have to install it from the beggining,but i don't want to do
that.
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Read my previous description of how I would have approached the problem, 
and the answers shall come to you...


In case you don't know how to back up data, read the dump(8) and 
restore(8) man pages.


If you don't have access to any external space, e.g. a USB disk or 
network access to sufficient storage space, you may need to consider 
backing up only the important files from the /home partition and 
personalised config files from /etc and /usr/local/etc to a DVD, 
reinstall the system from scratch (the installation program lets you 
delete the s3 and s4 slices and create a new, bigger s3 slice), and then 
restore the backed up files.


If you don't even have a DVD recorder, try accessing the Linux slice. 
I've never used it myself, but FreeBSD should be able to access ext* 
file systems, and store the backup there. Do this BEFORE reinstalling.

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Re: Problems with textproc/iso8879 port?

2010-06-11 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 11), Bruce Cran said:
 On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:02:47 +0200
 Antonio Vieiro anto...@antonioshome.net wrote:
 
  I'm trying to install port iso8879 in 8.0-RELEASE (needed by
  docbook and by gnome and wxgtk28) and I'm getting the problem below.
  
  I contacted the maintainer without success. Any ideas, anyone?
 
  ===  Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed
  Archive:  /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip
  caution: filename not matched:  -d
  caution: filename not matched:  /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879
  *** Error code 11
  
  If I remove the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip and try
  again the build fails too:
 
 It looks like a problem with the zip command in
 textproc/iso8879/Makefile:
 
 @${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES} -d ${INSTDIR}

The -d option to unzip is dangerous imho, since it's in the wrong location
(at the end of the comamndline, after everything else).  Safer to use

  cd ${INSTDIR}  ${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES}

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Re: Problems with textproc/iso8879 port?

2010-06-11 Thread Antonio Vieiro

On 11/06/10 20:34, Dan Nelson wrote:

If I remove the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip and try
again the build fails too:


It looks like a problem with the zip command in
textproc/iso8879/Makefile:

@${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES} -d ${INSTDIR}


The -d option to unzip is dangerous imho, since it's in the wrong location
(at the end of the comamndline, after everything else).  Safer to use

   cd ${INSTDIR}  ${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES}



Thanks all for this. I got it working (docbook is being installed as I 
write this and yes, I'm using the new parallel make on a QuadCore and 
things fly indeed [1] ).


As I'm still a FreeBSD newbie I don't dare to write a patch for this 
yet. (I still have to learn what ${EXTRACT_BEFORE_ARGS} means in that 
makefile, for instance).


I'm a little bit overwhelmed with FreeBSD documentation. I've just found 
the FreeBSD Porter's Handbook. I think I should read that first.


Thanks again,
Antonio

[1] Excerpt from top -P while running make...

CPU 0: 75.3% user,  0.0% nice, 12.0% system,  0.0% interrupt, 12.7% idle
CPU 1: 77.9% user,  0.0% nice,  9.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 12.7% idle
CPU 2: 85.0% user,  0.0% nice, 10.5% system,  0.0% interrupt,  4.5% idle
CPU 3: 93.6% user,  0.0% nice,  4.9% system,  0.0% interrupt,  1.5% idle

I just love that!
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threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-06-11 Thread Vikash Badal
Greetings.

I have a thread socket application that seems to be behaving strangely

In a worker thread, I have the following.

CODE---
   LogMessage(DEBUG_0, allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst));
   
   free(inst);
   
   LogMessage(DEBUG_0, after free allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst));

   free(inst);
   
return 0;
---/CODE

output allocated 2304
output after free allocated 2304

from playing around, this should have segfaulted but it didn't:


if I try this from a non threaded, non socket code:
CODE--
   char *z;

   z = (char*)malloc(1000);
   printf(malloc is %ld\n, malloc_usable_size(z));
   free(z);
   printf(after malloc is %ld\n, malloc_usable_size(z));
--/CODE

Output malloc is 1024
Output Segmentation fault (core dumped)



Can anyone enlighten me ? why did the 2nd free not cause a segmentation fault ?


If im not clear, please forgive me.


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Re: Midphase Hosting

2010-06-11 Thread Karl Vogel
 On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:04:21 +0200, 
 Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za said:

J I looked up VERP last night to check that I was right about the extra
J load, and came across a reference to VERP being the idea of DJB, and
J being acceptable to qmail users because there's no penalty load - qmail
J never batches up messages for the same domain, always sending each one
J individually.  Is that true?  It seems an odd design decision to me.

   That decision has been the subject of countless arguments.  Here's the
   rationale, according to The Qmail Handbook.  You have these basic
   choices when sending a message to three users on the same host:

   1.  Open an SMTP connection to the server, send a copy to user1, another
   copy to user2, the last to user3, close the connection.

   2.  Start three processes.  Each one opens an SMTP connection, sends a
   copy to one user, and closes.

   3.  Open an SMTP connection to the server, send one copy addressed to
   all three recipients, close the connection.

   (1) is the worst; if the message is small, it takes at least as much
   time as (3).  If the message is huge, it takes a lot longer and wastes
   bandwidth.

   (3) is most efficient in terms of network bandwidth.

   (2) is what qmail uses.  It wastes bandwidth but allows SMTP round-trip
   delays to occur in parallel, so it's usually faster than (3).  It's
   simpler than (3) so the MTA code is easier to write and verify.
   Finally, you can use VERP because each user gets their own copy.  There
   are pathological cases where it's slower than (3), but VERP allows bad
   bounces to be handled automatically, and this plus the code simplicity
   was considered more important.

   The bandwidth difference was often exaggerated because:
   a. most messages have multiple recipients *on separate hosts*, so (3)
  would not be possible in the first place, and
   b. SMTP usually takes up a small fraction of the bandwidth on a given
  host compared to (say) HTTP.  If SMTP takes 10% of your bandwidth and
  you can save 25% of that by using method (3), now it will take 7.5%.

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Re: Anyone aware of dahdi port not working?

2010-06-11 Thread Alejandro Imass
It does not compile in FBSD 7 either. I had to to settle for Asterisk 1.4

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:08 PM, jay west jw...@ezwind.net wrote:
 I emailed the maintainer but got no response.

 Fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0-Release and a port collection from around
 6/5/10. Did a make on the dahdi-2.3.0rc2 port, but it fails.

 I can provide details, but was wondering if it was something on my machine
 or if others have noticed this and are aware of it?
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Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-06-11 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 11), Vikash Badal said:
 I have a thread socket application that seems to be behaving strangely
 
 In a worker thread, I have the following.

 CODE---
LogMessage(DEBUG_0, allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst));
free(inst);
LogMessage(DEBUG_0, after free allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst));
free(inst);
 return 0;
 ---/CODE
 output allocated 2304
 output after free allocated 2304
 
 from playing around, this should have segfaulted but it didn't:
 
 if I try this from a non threaded, non socket code:
 CODE--
char *z;
 
z = (char*)malloc(1000);
printf(malloc is %ld\n, malloc_usable_size(z));
free(z);
printf(after malloc is %ld\n, malloc_usable_size(z));
 --/CODE
 
 Output malloc is 1024
 Output Segmentation fault (core dumped)
 
 Can anyone enlighten me ? why did the 2nd free not cause a segmentation
 fault ?

You asked this same question on May 24:

  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-May/216652.html

The answer is still the same:

 You're invoking undefined behaviour here by calling malloc_usable_size on a
 free'd pointer.  The function is free to crash, return useful data, or
 return useless data, at its discretion :)

The fix is to remove your second call to malloc_usable_size(z)).  Then
neither version will crash.  Also, a useful habit to start is to explicitly
zero the pointer you just free'd, to prevent it from being used accidentally
later.

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RE: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-06-11 Thread Vikash Badal
 -Original Message-
 From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dan Nelson
 Sent: 11 June 2010 09:56 PM
 To: Vikash Badal
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0
 
 
 The fix is to remove your second call to malloc_usable_size(z)).  Then
 neither version will crash.  Also, a useful habit to start is to
 explicitly
 zero the pointer you just free'd, to prevent it from being used
 accidentally
 later.

Made this change:

CODE---
   LogMessage(DEBUG_0, allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst));
   
   free(inst);
   free(inst);
   
return 0;
---/CODE

Still no seg fault.

The reason im am doing this is that from top I can see the memory grow as I 
connect to this app.
When I disconnect, the memory used ( as displayed from top ) does not decrease.


I tried:
CODE-

char *chunk;
chunk = (char*) malloc(120);
sleep(30);
free(chunk)
sleep(30);

free(inst);
free(inst);

--/CODE

Top show the memory for the chunk section increase and then decrease  when freed

However, the when I leave the worker thread ( close the connection ), the 
memory usage does not decrease.

The more connections I open and close, the faster the memory grows.


 
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Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64?

2010-06-11 Thread Martin Cracauer
Michel Talon wrote on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:34:33AM +0200: 
 Martin Cracauer wrote:
 
  Right now I think there's a general lack of people building CMUCL
  binaries, BTW.
 
 There are recent cmucl binaries built here:
 http://common-lisp.net/project/cmucl/downloads/snapshots/2009/01/
 for freebsd 7 and freebsd 8.
 I think this is for x86, not x86-64 but they should work, it is not
 clear for me if cmucl makes use of 64 bits anyways (maxima doesn't).

There has never been a 64 bit port of CMUCL.  There is a partial port
for amd64 by Ed Wang, but it never got finished.

 Unfortunately there are not more recent snapshots for freebsd 8 and no
 freebsd snapshots at all since 2010.
 
 In january 2010 there is the comment:
 
 The FreeBSD binaries I had uploaded for the snapshot were flawed: I
 just discovered that I accidentally built them without Unicode
 support.  To avoid confusion, these binaries have been removed.
 
 -- Alex Goncharov, 2010-03-30
 

Alex has retired from making CMUCL for FreeBSD snapshots.  

I volunteered to take over but real life got in the way.  I don't have
any 32 bit FreeBSD installations left in my home farm.  So to build
the 32 bit binaries for various FreeBSD versions I probably need to
install a bunch of chroots, which then need the usual enter-chroot
customization blues.  I didn't do that yet.

 Being a maxima user i am very attached to cmucl which works very well
 with maxima (faster than sbcl), and i have in the past compiled cmucl
 using older cmucl versions, which works quite easily. Here i am afraid
 that Alex Goncharov has encountered some problem, and also that Darwin,
 Linux and NetBSD support were considered more important ...

I'll see whether I can get my behind in gear and get this going this
weekend.

Interesting you have lower performance in SBCL.  Are you comparing a
64 bit SBCL with a 32 bit CMUCL? Is your SBCL binary (whichever
bitcount) compiled with thread support?

Martin
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Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0

2010-06-11 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 11), Vikash Badal said:
  -Original Message-
  From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
  
  The fix is to remove your second call to malloc_usable_size(z)).  Then
  neither version will crash.  Also, a useful habit to start is to
  explicitly zero the pointer you just free'd, to prevent it from being
  used accidentally later.
 
 Made this change:
 
 CODE---
LogMessage(DEBUG_0, allocated %ld, malloc_usable_size(inst));

free(inst);
free(inst);

 return 0;
 ---/CODE
 
 Still no seg fault.
 
 The reason im am doing this is that from top I can see the memory grow as
 I connect to this app.  When I disconnect, the memory used ( as displayed
 from top ) does not decrease.

For performance reasons, the malloc library may not immediately release free
memory back to the OS.  Also, depending on the position of the memory block
being freed, it may not be releasable back to the OS (if malloc used sbrk
for allocations, it can only free memory at the far end of the address
space, for example).  Setting the environment variable MALLOC_OPTIONS to
dM10f might help (disable use of sbrk(), enable use of mmap(), don't cache
any free pages), but you still may not see any change according to top.

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Re: error with linux-f10-flashplugin10

2010-06-11 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com writes:

 while i am trying to install the port flashplugin i came up with this error.

 fetch:
 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz:
 size mismatch: expected 4050435, actual 4760657
 fetch:
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.0r45/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz:
 File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

Looks like they re-rolled the tarball but kept the same name.  The port
will need to be updated.

In the meantime, you can try downloading the new tarball and using that
with the port.  You will need to update the size and checksums in the
makefile (make makesum will do that, if I recall correctly, but you
can check in man ports to be sure).

 i have tryed to install it as a package but it failed too.

Right.  There are no packages of it; we're not allowed to distribute
it.  Which also explains why the file isn't available from our own
master ftp site, either.
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Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64?

2010-06-11 Thread Michel Talon
Martin Cracauer wrote:

 Interesting you have lower performance in SBCL.  Are you comparing a
 64 bit SBCL with a 32 bit CMUCL? Is your SBCL binary (whichever
 bitcount) compiled with thread support?

I have a 32 bits machine, and i was using the FreeBSD sbcl port without
changing any compiling option. It is sufficient to run a number of
maxima  examples (*) to see that they run frequently faster with cmucl
(gcl was also similarly speedy) than with sbcl (sometimes considerably
faster). I think having seen similar assertions in maxima mailing list.

(*) for example this computation is appropriate
http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs/manual/en/maxima_54.html#SEC233
batch(grobner.demo)

Another thing to consider is that the cmucl compiler is now able to emit
sse2 instructions, and this gives a quite substantial gain in numeric
computations under maxima, an example being eigens_by_jacobi on a large
matrix, which gets a considerable speed boost.

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mpcustomer.com issue

2010-06-11 Thread Marc Bollinger
All,

My name is Marc Bollinger, Director of Development of UK2 Group. I've recently 
got word of an annoying problem where our CRM (mpcustomer.com) is sending out 
auto-responders to this list. 

I subscribed to this list so I can reproduce the problem and help me track it 
down. Terribly sorry for the problems with this, I can appreciate how annoying 
it is.

We'll get this knocked out as soon as possible.

Best,
Marc

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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:17:14PM +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:

 ok,but if i delete this 2 slices then i will delete my entire system..

That is why some of the other respondents said you must first 
create a good dump(8) of those two slices (or at least the one
with stuff in it).You don't have to touch the two other slices.

There is nothing that will expand a live slice that I know of.
I know there is in the MS world, but it is a different situation.


 
 then should i have to install it from the beggining,but i don't want to do
 that.

Although I would advise taking a dump(8) of everything with data before
starting, since those two slices appear to be adjacent, you should be able
to do the operation without affecting the other two slices.

But, the two you work on will definitely be affected.  You will need to
dump and then reload the data..

jerry


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Re: mpcustomer.com issue

2010-06-11 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Marc Bollinger m...@vps.net wrote:
 All,

 My name is Marc Bollinger, Director of Development of UK2 Group. I've 
 recently got word of an annoying problem where our CRM (mpcustomer.com) is 
 sending out auto-responders to this list.

 I subscribed to this list so I can reproduce the problem and help me track it 
 down. Terribly sorry for the problems with this, I can appreciate how 
 annoying it is.

 We'll get this knocked out as soon as possible.

 Best,
 Marc


THANKS! It is really annoying!!!
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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
i read the manuals about dump,but they say that if i take a back up of my
/ then dump will not make a backup for /home and /usr.
my /home directory is empty but i need the /usr directory.

what should i do?

can you help me with the syntax of the dump command?
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RE:error with linux-f10-flashplugin10

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
thanks for helping me..:)
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Re: mpcustomer.com issue

2010-06-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Marc == Marc Bollinger m...@vps.net writes:

Marc We'll get this knocked out as soon as possible.

I suspect you *already* have your evidence, thanks to the fact that
you posted here just now. :)

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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:00:57 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 i read the manuals about dump,but they say that if i take a back up of my
 / then dump will not make a backup for /home and /usr.
 my /home directory is empty but i need the /usr directory.
 
 what should i do?
 
 can you help me with the syntax of the dump command?

The dump command operates partition-wise. The common method
of using it is

# dump -0Lauf dumpfile partition

The dumpfile can be on a removable media or on a network drive,
it can also be a tape.

In order to find out what to dump, see the output of mount.
It shows the partitions you can dump, and in most cases, you
will dump all of them except the swap partition (which doesn't
show up in mount output anyway.

So, for example, you can do:

# dump -0Lauf /mnt/ /dev/ad0s1a
# dump -0Lauf /mnt/ /dev/ad0s1d

where your dump media is mounted in /mnt.


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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 01:00:57AM +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:

 i read the manuals about dump,but they say that if i take a back up of my
 / then dump will not make a backup for /home and /usr.
 my /home directory is empty but i need the /usr directory.
 
 what should i do?

dump works on file systems, not individual files or directories.
if home is something mounted separately, then you run a dump
for that.   Same for /usr.   If /usr is just a directory under
root (/) and not a separate file system, then taking a dump of /
will get /usr.

I don't have a list of your mounted filesystems.

jerry


 
 can you help me with the syntax of the dump command?
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Areca RAID Failure?

2010-06-11 Thread Kelsey Cummings
This isn't specifically freebsd related but I'm fishing to see if
anyone has observered similar behavior from and Areca raid controller
before.  We're already in touch with their support...

Last night a disk failed on a 7 disk raid-6 array on a ARC-1220 with 1TB
WD REmumble disks.  This is certainly normal enough, except that rather
than taking the normal ~30 hours to rebuild array after a failure it
appears to have added the spare disk directly into the array and started
servicing reads from it without rebuilding it from parity!

This obviously seriously scrambled the filesystem on it and sorta
defeats the whole point of H/W raid in the first place.  XFS recovered
well enough, but most files are large enough to span a stripe and are
corrupted for it.

It's currently running a check and is finding lots of errors, I am
optomistic that it's check routine might rebuild the data from parity
but am glad this occured on a log archiving volume so it isn't a great
loss and we don't have to restore from backups anyway.

Anyone else seen such amazing examples of FAIL from Areca's?  We've got
50 or so 3wares in production and in the past 8 years have only seen one
3ware tank - it destroyed the filesystem on it's way but also complained
on the way out and wouldn't initialize since it failed its internal
diags.  Performance issues or not, at least they do their job.

-K

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messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Doug Sampson
Hello,

I have a messed up ports index that I cannot clean. I want to uninstall
lang/php5 but it does not seem to uninstall. The same thing goes for
security/php5-hash. I was uninstalling php5 ports in an effort to return
to the php52 ports. So that is how this happened. I ran the pkgdb -F but
it looks like I chose some unfortunate choices that left me where I am
now.

How can I dig myself out of this?

~Doug


corvus-root@/usr/ports: pkg_version -vo
archivers/9e=   up-to-date with port
..snip..
databases/pgtune=   up-to-date with port
security/php5-hash needs updating (port has
5.3.2_1)   
lang/php5  needs updating (port has
5.3.2_1)   
lang/php52  =   up-to-date with port

math/php52-bcmath   =   up-to-date with port
archivers/php52-bz2 =   up-to-date with port
textproc/php52-ctype=   up-to-date with port
ftp/php52-curl  =   up-to-date with port
databases/php52-dba =   up-to-date with port
textproc/php52-dom  =   up-to-date with port
graphics/php52-exif =   up-to-date with port
security/php52-filter   =   up-to-date with port
ftp/php52-ftp   =   up-to-date with port
graphics/php52-gd   =   up-to-date with port
devel/php52-gettext =   up-to-date with port
security/php52-hash =   up-to-date with port

converters/php52-iconv  =   up-to-date with port
devel/php52-json=   up-to-date with port

..snip..
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Re: mpcustomer.com issue

2010-06-11 Thread Marc Bollinger
I believe I've located the culprit - as long as the mailing list took my 
unsubscribe request. :)

Please feel free to notify me if you still get it..

Sorry again,
Marc

On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Marc Bollinger m...@vps.net wrote:
 All,
 
 My name is Marc Bollinger, Director of Development of UK2 Group. I've 
 recently got word of an annoying problem where our CRM (mpcustomer.com) is 
 sending out auto-responders to this list.
 
 I subscribed to this list so I can reproduce the problem and help me track 
 it down. Terribly sorry for the problems with this, I can appreciate how 
 annoying it is.
 
 We'll get this knocked out as soon as possible.
 
 Best,
 Marc
 
 
 THANKS! It is really annoying!!!

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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
only /home is in a diferent partition,but i don't care because i don't have
any file in it (only .xinitrc,but this is not a prob)

i give as a root the command dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ /dev/ad0s3a

but i receive the following error:

  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 01:39:31 2010
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 6843871 tape blocks.
  DUMP: Cannot open output /mnt/hd/FBSD/.
  DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: (yes or no)

i tried to reopen the output but it had no effect.

P.S.:ad0s3a is my root directory (/)
s3b is /home and
s3d is my swap space
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RE: messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Doug Sampson
 
 Hello,
 
 I have a messed up ports index that I cannot clean. I want to
 uninstall
 lang/php5 but it does not seem to uninstall. The same thing goes for
 security/php5-hash. I was uninstalling php5 ports in an effort to
 return
 to the php52 ports. So that is how this happened. I ran the pkgdb -F
 but
 it looks like I chose some unfortunate choices that left me where I
 am
 now.
 
 How can I dig myself out of this?
 
 ~Doug
 
 
 corvus-root@/usr/ports: pkg_version -vo
 archivers/9e=   up-to-date with port
 ..snip..
 databases/pgtune=   up-to-date with port
 security/php5-hash needs updating (port has
 5.3.2_1)   
 lang/php5  needs updating (port has
 5.3.2_1)   
 lang/php52  =   up-to-date with port
 
 math/php52-bcmath   =   up-to-date with port
 archivers/php52-bz2 =   up-to-date with port
 textproc/php52-ctype=   up-to-date with port
 ftp/php52-curl  =   up-to-date with port
 databases/php52-dba =   up-to-date with port
 textproc/php52-dom  =   up-to-date with port
 graphics/php52-exif =   up-to-date with port
 security/php52-filter   =   up-to-date with port
 ftp/php52-ftp   =   up-to-date with port
 graphics/php52-gd   =   up-to-date with port
 devel/php52-gettext =   up-to-date with port
 security/php52-hash =   up-to-date with port
 
 converters/php52-iconv  =   up-to-date with port
 devel/php52-json=   up-to-date with port
 
 ..snip..

After I googled around some more, I found and ran this:

portmaster -o lang/php52 lang/php5

Now I am left with only one item as follows:

php5-mhash-5.2.12_2   needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1)

There is *no* lang/php5-mhash. Only lang/php52-mhash. Should I deinstall
and install?

~Doug


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Re: messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi--

On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Doug Sampson wrote:
 portmaster -o lang/php52 lang/php5
 
 Now I am left with only one item as follows:
 
 php5-mhash-5.2.12_2   needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1)
 
 There is *no* lang/php5-mhash. Only lang/php52-mhash. Should I deinstall and 
 install?

If I recall right, mhash is now built-in or emulated in php-5.3; I think you 
can simply deinstall it.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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RE: messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Doug Sampson
  I have a messed up ports index that I cannot clean. I want to
  uninstall
  lang/php5 but it does not seem to uninstall. The same thing goes
 for
  security/php5-hash. I was uninstalling php5 ports in an effort to
  return
  to the php52 ports. So that is how this happened. I ran the pkgdb
 -F
  but
  it looks like I chose some unfortunate choices that left me where
 I
  am
  now.
 
  How can I dig myself out of this?
 
  ~Doug
 
 
  corvus-root@/usr/ports: pkg_version -vo
  archivers/9e=   up-to-date with port
  ..snip..
  databases/pgtune=   up-to-date with port
  security/php5-hash needs updating (port has
  5.3.2_1)   
  lang/php5  needs updating (port has
  5.3.2_1)   
  lang/php52  =   up-to-date with port
  
  math/php52-bcmath   =   up-to-date with port
  archivers/php52-bz2 =   up-to-date with port
  textproc/php52-ctype=   up-to-date with port
  ftp/php52-curl  =   up-to-date with port
  databases/php52-dba =   up-to-date with port
  textproc/php52-dom  =   up-to-date with port
  graphics/php52-exif =   up-to-date with port
  security/php52-filter   =   up-to-date with port
  ftp/php52-ftp   =   up-to-date with port
  graphics/php52-gd   =   up-to-date with port
  devel/php52-gettext =   up-to-date with port
  security/php52-hash =   up-to-date with port
  
  converters/php52-iconv  =   up-to-date with port
  devel/php52-json=   up-to-date with port
 
  ..snip..
 
 After I googled around some more, I found and ran this:
 
 portmaster -o lang/php52 lang/php5
 
 Now I am left with only one item as follows:
 
 php5-mhash-5.2.12_2   needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1)
 
 There is *no* lang/php5-mhash. Only lang/php52-mhash. Should I
 deinstall
 and install?
 

Ooops.

I meant to say security/php5-mhash and security/php52-mhash. Again,
there is no security/php5-mhash. How can I remove this safely?

~Doug

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RE: messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Doug Sampson
 On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Doug Sampson wrote:
  portmaster -o lang/php52 lang/php5
 
  Now I am left with only one item as follows:
 
  php5-mhash-5.2.12_2   needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1)
 
  There is *no* lang/php5-mhash. Only lang/php52-mhash. Should I
 deinstall and install?
 
 If I recall right, mhash is now built-in or emulated in php-5.3; I
 think you can simply deinstall it.
 

Right. My issue is, there isn't a path of /usr/ports/security/php5-mhash
-- only /usr/ports/security/php52-mhash. How can I remove the
security/php5-mhash with a missing directory? I am unable to deinstall.
How does one remove?

~Doug
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Re: messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Doug Sampson wrote:
 I meant to say security/php5-mhash and security/php52-mhash. Again,
 there is no security/php5-mhash. How can I remove this safely?

pkg_delete -f php5-mhash-5.2.12_2

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Re: messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Glenn Sieb
On 6/11/10 6:56 PM, Doug Sampson wrote:
 Right. My issue is, there isn't a path of /usr/ports/security/php5-mhash
 -- only /usr/ports/security/php52-mhash. How can I remove the
 security/php5-mhash with a missing directory? I am unable to deinstall.
 How does one remove?

pkg_del php5-mhash-*

Best,
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RE: messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Doug Sampson
  there is no security/php5-mhash. How can I remove this safely?
 
 pkg_delete -f php5-mhash-5.2.12_2
 

corvus-root@/usr/ports/security/php52-mhash: pkg_delete -f
php5-mhash-5.2.12_2
pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mhash.so' doesn't exist
pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/php/ext/mhash/config.h' doesn't
exist
pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/php/ext/mhash/php_mhash.h' doesn't
exist
pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/php/ext/mhash' doesn't exist
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
'/usr/local/include/php/ext/mhash'
pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list
is
incorrectly specified?)
corvus-root@/usr/ports/security/php52-mhash: portversion -v
..snip..
pgtune-0.9.0=  up-to-date with port 
php52-5.2.13_1  =  up-to-date with port 
php52-bcmath-5.2.13_1   =  up-to-date with port
..snip..

Finally, it's gone. Thank you!

~Doug
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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Chris Hill

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:

only /home is in a diferent partition,but i don't care because i don't 
have any file in it (only .xinitrc,but this is not a prob)


i give as a root the command dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ /dev/ad0s3a

but i receive the following error:

 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 01:39:31 2010
 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
 DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/
 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
 DUMP: estimated 6843871 tape blocks.
 DUMP: Cannot open output /mnt/hd/FBSD/.
 DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: (yes or no)

i tried to reopen the output but it had no effect.


Is there a filesystem at /mnt/hd/FBSD/? Please show us the output of the 
df command.


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Re: messed up ports index

2010-06-11 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Doug Sampson wrote:
 Finally, it's gone. Thank you!

You're most welcome

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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas

 Is there a filesystem at /mnt/hd/FBSD/?


what do u mean?

the output of the command df -h

/dev/ad0s3a 19G6.5G 11G37%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s3d2.5G186M2.1G 8%/home
/dev/da0s1 149G 62G 87G42%/mnt/hd
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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 01:46:57AM +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:

 only /home is in a diferent partition,but i don't care because i don't have
 any file in it (only .xinitrc,but this is not a prob)
 
 i give as a root the command dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ /dev/ad0s3a
 
 but i receive the following error:
 
   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 01:39:31 2010
   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
   DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/
   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
   DUMP: estimated 6843871 tape blocks.
   DUMP: Cannot open output /mnt/hd/FBSD/.
   DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: (yes or no)
 
 i tried to reopen the output but it had no effect.
 

Well, it looks like something is wrong with where you are
trying to write the dump.   What is mounted on /mnt/hd/FBSD?
Is anything?   Is there a filesystem built on it or is it
some serial access media such as tape (in naming convention I 
have never seen).   Or is FBSD a directory?   If so, you
have to name a file within it eg:  /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump


I don't specifically see any problem with your dump command.
It is the media where you are writing that is causing your problem.
It hasn't had a filesystem built or mounted on it or something 
like that.

By the way, you don't have to specify the /dev/name in a dump.

   dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD /  
would be sufficient and more clear to human read.

   dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/home.dump /home
would be good for /home 

It is hard to guess beyond this what is happening.

 P.S.:ad0s3a is my root directory (/)
 s3b is /home and
 s3d is my swap space

Don't dump swap.


jerry


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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:46:57 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 only /home is in a diferent partition,but i don't care because i don't have
 any file in it (only .xinitrc,but this is not a prob)
 
 i give as a root the command dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ /dev/ad0s3a
 
 but i receive the following error:
 
   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 01:39:31 2010
   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
   DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/
   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
   DUMP: estimated 6843871 tape blocks.
   DUMP: Cannot open output /mnt/hd/FBSD/.
   DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: (yes or no)
 
 i tried to reopen the output but it had no effect.

The answer is right here: DUMP: Cannot open output /mnt/hd/FBSD/.
You need to specify a file, not a directory. For example, you can
use this command:

# dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ad0s3a.dump /dev/ad0s3a

You just have to make sure that there's enough space for the dump
file on the device mounted as /mnt/hd.



 P.S.:ad0s3a is my root directory (/)

Then you have all subtrees on your / partition (like /var, /usr).
Correctly, this is what you want to dump.



 s3b is /home and

If you don't need it, don't dump it. :-) Anyway, if its nearly
empty, you won't need much space for the dumpfile.


 s3d is my swap space

Partition d is the swap? It's usually b, but... possible.


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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:04:06 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 the output of the command df -h
 
 /dev/ad0s3a 19G6.5G 11G37%/
 devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
 /dev/ad0s3d2.5G186M2.1G 8%/home
 /dev/da0s1 149G 62G 87G42%/mnt/hd

From the device name da0s1, I conclude that /mnt/hd does not
connect to a UFS file system, right? In case it is a FAT file
system, make sure you can actually write a file of 6.5 GB to
it - not that you end up with a truncated dump file.

Check mount -v /dev/da0s1 for the correct mount options.



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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
/mnt/hd/ is the directory of my external hard disk and /mnt/hd/FBSD is the
directory of FBSD folder within the hard disk.

i created the file root.dump in /mnt/hd/FBSD and i gave the command dump
-0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump /

the result is:

DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 02:05:36 2010
   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
   DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump
   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
   DUMP: estimated 6859984 tape blocks.
   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
   DUMP: write error 4194320 blocks into volume 1
   DUMP: Do you want to restart?: (yes or no)


is it ok?



P.S.:my hard disk is a FAT file system not a UFS.
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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:17:17 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 /mnt/hd/ is the directory of my external hard disk and /mnt/hd/FBSD is the
 directory of FBSD folder within the hard disk.

Please try to use the correct terminology (yes, I know, I'm picky
about that): FreeBSD has directories, not folders. I assume you
don't call files sheets of paper. :-)



 i created the file root.dump in /mnt/hd/FBSD and i gave the command dump
 -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump /

You don't need to create a file - dump will do that.



 the result is:
 
 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 02:05:36 2010
DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump
DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
DUMP: estimated 6859984 tape blocks.
DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
DUMP: write error 4194320 blocks into volume 1
DUMP: Do you want to restart?: (yes or no)
 
 
 is it ok?

Doesn't look that way. write error 4194320 blocks into volume 1
seems to indicate that the file counldn't successfully be written.
and the retry request suggests that something went wrong.



 P.S.:my hard disk is a FAT file system not a UFS.

I guessed right. :-) Make sure you can acutally write a 6.5 GB
file on it. FAT usually has problems with big files.




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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
i used the restart option but still i had the same error.

if i make my hard disk a UFS file system then the error it may be fixed.

how can i do it?

P.S.:i have 138 gb free space on my hard disk.:)
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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:30:13 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 i used the restart option but still i had the same error.

Have you previously deleted the created file from the external hard
disk? Can you provide mount -v /dev/da0s1?



 if i make my hard disk a UFS file system then the error it may be fixed.
 
 how can i do it?

Can you use the WHOLE disk for your backup files? In case you've
got nothing to lose on that disk, it's quite easy, but pay
attention: The disk will be EMPTY then.

Make sure it's unmonted before creating a FreeBSD file system
on it.

# newfs -U /dev/da0
# mount /dev/da0 /mnt

This does omit the slice part, it's often called dedicated.
Sometimes it's called dangerously dedicated because Windows
can't read it anymore (as if it could by default...).

Oh, and did I already mention sade? It's a nice tool for
dealing with disks, slices, partitions and filesystems, it
works like sysinstall's corresponding subfunctions. You can
use it to

1. delete the da0s1 slice
2. create a FreeBSD slice, spanning the whole disk
3. create an UFS partition, covering the whole slice
4. format the UFS partition, maybe using soft updates.

This will give you /dev/da0s1c, which you can mount to /mnt.

To keep in mind: The c partition always means the whole disk
or the whole slice, root partitions usually are a, swap
spaces b, and other partitions start at e (they can also
start at d, but I think that d was reserved for something
in the past, not sure if it's still the case).



 P.S.:i have 138 gb free space on my hard disk.:)

In case you have data on that disk that you NEED - get them off
the disk first. :-)



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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
ok,the dump files where created succesfully..

now i will make the formats..

after the formats how i will restore my system?
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Re: resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:12:57 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 after the formats how i will restore my system?

With restore. :-)

First of all, after you've created a new slice, and within the
slice partitions as desired (you can easily do this from the
FreeBSD live system CD or DVD, or any other FreeBSD based live
system, e. g. FreeSBIE), you will need one restore operation
per dumped partition.

In this example, I'll assume that ad0s3 is your new FreeBSD
slice, and within it, the partitions ad0s3a (root file system),
ad0s3b (swap) and ad0s3e (home) have been successfully created
(e. g. via sysinstall's functionality, sade, or fdisk + bsdlabel).
If you are in a multiboot environment, pay attention to the
implications (e. g. FreeBSD boot manager).

Then, when in the live system:

# mkdir /backup
# mount -o ro /dev/da0 /backup

# newfs ad0s3a
# newfs -U ad0s3e

# mount /dev/newfs ad0s3a /mnt
# cd /mnt
# restore -rf /backup/root.dump
# cd /mnt/home
# restore -rf /backup/home.dump
# cd /

# umount /mnt
# umount /backup
# sync
# reboot

See man restore for details. Basically, using restore, you go

# cd target
# restore -rf dumpfile

It's quite easy as soon as you've understood this logic.


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RE:resize freebsd slice

2010-06-11 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
i have a problem while i am trying to restore the dump files..

i followed your instructions but when i give

restore -rf /backup/root.dump i receive the following error:

expected next file 188417,got 4


and the output of ls in the /mnt directory is:
.snap
restoresymtable
terietor


what is going on?
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freebsd - for the win

2010-06-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz

I'm working on a project for my client, and I spent the better part of
two days trying to get my laptop running OSX to have the right
combination of BerkeleyDB and Perl modules to build what I wanted.
Turns out my Perl 5.10.1 install was incompatible with BerkeleyDB on
OSX, but the macports version 5.8.9 was also in the wrong path, ugh.

Finally, I said hey, freebsd would do better here.

Within a half day, I had a freebsd VMWare image up and running,
executing precisely the code I wanted, and I was able to take my
development to the next round.

FreeBSD.  The Ports Just Work.  Nothing else like it.

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