ipfw fwd and ipfw allow
Colleagues, What tricks do you use if you need to allow a packet and then fwd it (or vice versa)? The search terminates and the packet quits ipfw on fwd as well as on allow. How do I allow a packet and then policy route it? An example ruleset will be appreciated. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
in message 4c70a618.d6d35...@blakemfg.com, wrote Fred Boatwright thusly... The .xinitrc file: xrdb xsetroot -solid gray xterm -geometry +0-100 xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm ... I don't understand why xterm and xconsole are to be started before the window manager. Window manager is started at the end so that when it exits, it takes all the open programs with it. If you start the window manager in background too ... xrdb ... exec fvwm ... then all you would see is a flash of window opening (and subsequently closing) as no program would be there to block exiting out of X11. You could start any other program in foreground after starting window manager ... xrdb ... fvwm # Exit this xterm, exit out of X11. exec xterm -T 'Die, Die!' You would need to then exit that program so that open files close, other programs die, X11 shuts down, and so on, so forth. - parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: change the password e-mail account
All senders, with this the contents of letter, an urgent need to change the password e-mail account! I think that broke password mailboxes... From my email too, came a letter to the mailing list, but I did not send it :( Bull$hit, You can knock that crap off right now or your no better than the person that set this garbage up or your the person behind it trying to work some social engineering tactic that is playing out like a script kiddie on k00laid. Regards, -- jhell,v ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [off-topic] Server-side IRC channel logging? (not statistics)
On 08/19/2010 06:05, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/19/10 4:18 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: So you can set up the server but you can't install a client on the server machine? I can - I would prefer not to. Compile a static version of ircII and run it from the object directory without installing it. -- jhell,v ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS jails
On 08/21/2010 23:57, Joe wrote: I am thinking about running zfs on the host for everything except booting the system. I plan to create a 1gb zfs area which I want to use for a jail directory tree. Is this possible? In other words, why would it not be possible ?. Have fun it sounds like you have a system that could have gave you a reply before this question had been answered here. Regards, -- jhell,v ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:12:03 +0200, claudiu vasadi claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: I added the corresponding fstab entries and then I deliberately removed the /mnt/2 folder. Sorry for sounding picky, but FreeBSD does not have folders. Those are called directories. Please try to use the correct terminology. You don't talk about files as sheets of paper either, do you? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Parklogic making a mess
On 22.08.2010 00:48, Bruce Cran wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:35:57 +0200 Svein Skogen sv...@stillbilde.net wrote: Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: I think anyone who posts to freebsd-questions is probably getting them. I contacted parklogic and got a response telling me I could use an anti-spam product to avoid getting it. Not quite the response I had hoped for! I got the exact same response, hence my decision that the entire /18 belonging to this non-serious ISP needs null-routing. They are forging from-adresses, and clearly have no intention of fixing their mess, expecting everyone else to run anti-spam products to sort out THEIR problem. I still think the correct response for this is to make sure the freebsd.org servers won't be reaching their net (that will stop the forged messages being triggered by incoming mail), and it just might be that one or more of their customers will be giving this supplier the message they NEED to hear: Not sorting out your broken configuration costs you money. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Xorg Problems
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 07:41:49PM -0700, Fred Boatwright wrote: Warren Block wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log First notes: You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a huge amount of software that will never get used. I don't want all the stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when everything else is working. I think the Handbook has a section on adding fonts. While looking for the xorg-minimal that I installed I found a bunch of nVidea drivers in the same directory. Do you think I should install them now or wait. For x11/xorg-minimal installation you issued the command: make install or make install VIDEO_DRIVER=your_video_driver ? Without the mention of the driver it installs the vesa driver only. This is sub-optimal, an options screen with all existing drivers should be proposed. -- Marc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Parklogic making a mess
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:48:50PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:35:57 +0200 Svein Skogen sv...@stillbilde.net wrote: Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: I think anyone who posts to freebsd-questions is probably getting them. I contacted parklogic and got a response telling me I could use an anti-spam product to avoid getting it. Not quite the response I had hoped for! So far these messages come from a single machine (look at the Received ... by mx1.freebsd.org line), 64.38.11.26, which is in a netblock owned by Layered Technologies, Inc. The postmaster for freebsd.org has been warned, so he might take action (refusing mail from that IP address). If not, on the 19th, I sent a complaint to ab...@layeredtech.com including one of the spam e-mails with full headers. I propose we wait for a week to see if Layered Tech take action. If not, then I think it is time some more people sent complaints. :-) For those in the US, you can also phone them, see http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/LAT-ARIN. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgps9veFJFHDi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:12:03 +0200, claudiu vasadi claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: What happened when a secondary hdd cannot be mounted at boot ? From experience I know the OS drops to single user mode, which I find incredibly stupid because a non-OS hdd should not stop the OS from booting up (imagine the hdd has a malfunction and then you get lucky enough to get a power surge - the OS won't come up because of a darn non-OS-important hdd). The OS does not know about how you are intending to use a hard disk. It just knows that /etc/fstab retuires (!) the mounting of a certain partition at boot time. If this fails, the boot process will NOT go on. An example: Let's say you have a mountpoint /foo on the / partition. This partition has 200 MB free space. The mountpoint /foo will usually be used for the /dev/da0 disk. After boot, a program will periodically output data to /foo, and will soon produce several GB of data within short time. Now assume the system comes up, /dev/da0 not present, okay, don't mind. Result: Soon / will be full. Problem. A similar situation happens if a mountpoint that /etc/fstab requires (!) to be present is NOT present. To the OS, this is a problematic situation as it requires operator decision. TEST scenario: 2 hdd's. The system is installed on the first one, and the second one has /mnt/2 as mountpoin. The 2nd disk was labeled and a new ufs partition was created. I added the corresponding fstab entries and then I deliberately removed the /mnt/2 folder. Directory. :-) FYI: this secondary hdd has no data on it whatsoever. The OS does not know that. Then I rebooted and of course the system went in single user mode. And now my question: WHY (I know that rc finishes abnormally) A solution would be to code noauto for this mount in /etc/fstab, and then add a custom mount call in /etc/rc.local which can check both the existance of the device and the mountpoint. You could also just ignore the errors, because (as far as I remember) a failing operation in rc.local won't stop the system to fully come up. The hdd has no relevant data on it, the OS has no files on it ... basically it does not get in the way of anything (except the perfect execution of the rc framework). Then mount manually after boot. Anyway, it seems to me that secondary hdd's mount failure should be ignored and an OS should be able to come up if one mountpoint does not exist or if an entry in fstab is wrong (again, I am talking about non-OS related hdd/mountpoints). I'm not sure how the OS should be able to decide about that, what's an OS mount and what's a non-OS mount. To make things worst, I tested a RHEL5 and the system booted without any problems even if the secondary hdd's mp was missing. I won't elaborate on why Linux behaviour is not a reference point for different operating systems. :-) Can someone explain this weird? behavior ? Intended behaviour - PREDICTABLE and SECURE. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Customizable wall clock for several time zones
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:05:12 -0500, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/ports/deskutils/google-gadgets Around the World The dependencies are scaring me off. :-/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Customizable wall clock for several time zones
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:51:52 +0200, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:
Yes, you can do that and it works like a charm:
#!/bin/sh
# display multiple xclock(1)s side by side
for TIMEZONE in ZONE1 ZONE2 ZONE3 ...
do
env TZ=$TIMEZONE xclock
done
(replace ZONE1, ZONE2, ZONE3 with real time zones
from /usr/share/zoneinfo)
I already thought about that solution, and using -title should
be possible (as it is with oclock) to simulate a caption for
that clock.
Basically, intclock is quite fine, but I prefer round clocks,
all controllable as ONE window; I already thought about merging
intclock with xclock (and looking at oclock), but going with
multiple xclocks will be fine, too.
You could even set the xclock(s) nicely side by side by using
the -geometry flag as in:
env TZ=$TIMEZONE xclock -geometry ${WIDTH}x${HEIGHT}+${XOFF}+${YOFF}
I suggest to keep WIDTH, HEIGHT and YOFF constant, and
to increment XOFF by $WIDTH plus some small constant for
every new timezone (use 'expr' to do arithmetic). This way,
you get them all arrayed side by side.
Right, I've been playing with -geometry for many years now in
order to place certain little windows (without titlebar and all
the stuff) into the lower left corner of my display: xbiff,
xclock, xlogo, xload, xmbmon, and finally an xterm, so they are
nicely placed.
--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 04:13:17PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Klinekl...@thought.org wrote: of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can click-over to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server [ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really cannot do much on ethic. i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around under there (c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. /usr/ports/sysutils/synergy this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. . ssh? sure. for simple things. but i need to get X going to get my UPS set up. also, to properly upgrade things. i was upgrading via ssh and something broke. it took an hour of messing around to get ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working. You just said two things that seem to contradict each other. You said you need to get X going to get the UPS set up, but earlier you said you don't have X installed on the server? Why would you need X to properly upgrade things? The upgrading of both the OS and ports works primarily with command-line tools. Do you realize that you can make more than one ssh connection to a server in case you want e.g. one shell to make run programs in and another to keep an eye on things. If you don't have X set up on the server, you should use ssh (or telnet if you have a trusted network). If you do have X set up on the server, you can use the net/vnc port to view the server's X11 screen on another machine. And ssh can also do X forwarding. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp3u7ooGNKHY.pgp Description: PGP signature
perl p5-Gtk2: FileChooser hangs infinitely
Hi, all. Could you please test this script (requires x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2): - #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use Gtk2 -init; my $filechooser = Gtk2::FileChooserButton-new(Choose a file, 'open'); print XXX\n; - It should just print XXX and exit. On my system (8.1-STABLE/amd64) it never prints anything. Just hangs on the first line. I don't know what to do - submit a PR? Reinstall everything? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Linux DRI as software renderer
Hi, I have a trouble running enemy-territory (from port) using Linux emulation. I enabled the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU knob to get a full hardware GLX with my radeon hd4330 mobility and it works well for native games such as teeworlds, UrbanTerror and so on. The problem is enemy-territory and linux games like ut2004-demo too. Enemy territory starts with : [...] - R_Init - ...loading libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 6: 1024 768 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768 X Error of failed request: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error) Major opcode of failed request: 136 Minor opcode of failed request: 1 Serial number of failed request: 30 Using 4/4/4 Color bits, 24 depth, 0 stencil display. GL_RENDERER: Software Rasterizer Initializing OpenGL extensions ...GL_S3_s3tc not found ...ignoring GL_EXT_texture_env_add ...using GL_ARB_multitexture ...using GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array ...GL_NV_fog_distance not found ... GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic not found Initializing GLX extensions ... GLX_SGI_swap_control not found ... GLX_SGI_video_sync not found XF86 Gamma extension initialized GL_VENDOR: Mesa Project -- GL_RENDERER: Software Rasterizer -- This is probably the problem ! GL_VERSION: 2.1 Mesa 7.3-devel GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_convolution GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_histogram GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texture GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_APPLE_packed_pixels GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_separate_stenGLX_EXTENSIONS: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address GLX_ARB_multisample GLX_EXT_import_context GLX_EXT_visual_info GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_OML_swap_method GLX_SGIS_multisample GLX_SGIX_fbconfig GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 2048 GL_MAX_ACTIVE_TEXTURES_ARB: 8 And the game is really slow, you can't do anything, I don't know then how to enable hardware acceleration with the linux enemy-territory port. I have installed graphics/linux-f10-dri by the way dri was missing to games/linux-enemyterritory, I will probably send a PR for this. Kind regards. -- Demelier David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode
ok, so I will make a secondary mount script that would check and mount any non-OS-related mp's. This would include setting all non-OS mp's to noauto in fstab and creating a secondary script to read fstab, check if all is in order and finally mount, or exit in error. This way, the OS sticks to it's ideology and the secondary mp's do not interfere with that ideology in any way. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Realtek 8139/8201L Ethernet PHY driver
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Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:27:02 +0200, claudiu vasadi claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: ok, so I will make a secondary mount script that would check and mount any non-OS-related mp's. This would include setting all non-OS mp's to noauto in fstab and creating a secondary script to read fstab, check if all is in order and finally mount, or exit in error. This way, the OS sticks to it's ideology and the secondary mp's do not interfere with that ideology in any way. You can use lazy man's /etc/rc.local, or write an rc.d style script, or simply mount it manually when needed. For example, I have a second disk for operated backups, with noauto in /etc/fstab, which I mount manually on the occassions I want to use it, so it's kept unmounted when not needed (good for security, good for my mind). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mountpoint not existent, droping to single user mode
I will write a rc.d script. It seems like the correct way to go. Manual mount is out of the question :) I will e-mail my end product ps: I know it's a dir and not a folder ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linux DRI as software renderer
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:24:58 +0200 David DEMELIER wrote: I don't know then how to enable hardware acceleration with the linux enemy-territory port. I have installed graphics/linux-f10-dri Please give a try to graphics/linux-dri74 instead of graphics/linux-f10-dri. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: Eitan Adler wrote: The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely black screen.  Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro  produces the expected grid and mouse pointer.  A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a window manager. Modern X.org installs don't show a default window manager (so a black screen is expected). What is the contents of your .xinitrc file? The .xinitrc file: xrdb xsetroot -solid gray xterm -geometry +0-100 xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm I have also tried twm. This file was generated from an example in the Handbook. Check if you actually have those programs installed. If not, you need to install these ports: x11/xrdb, x11/xsetroot, x11/xterm, x11/xconsole, x11-wm/fvwm. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Linux DRI as software renderer
On 22/08/2010 11:48, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:24:58 +0200 David DEMELIER wrote: I don't know then how to enable hardware acceleration with the linux enemy-territory port. I have installed graphics/linux-f10-dri Please give a try to graphics/linux-dri74 instead of graphics/linux-f10-dri. I'm running on amd64 and I enabled WITHOUT_LIB32 in my /etc/src.conf, does it matters ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: meory file system
gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com writes: I am running 8.1. under /dev, I don't see /dev/md0, /dev/md0 won't show up until you actually run mdconfig. so i am trying to add following lines in kernel file and got error messages: options MFS #Memory Filesystem The correct line is device md, but mdconfig(8) will automatically load the module, so you don't need it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: Hast + ZFS + Postgresql on FreeBSD 8.1
-- Forwarded message -- From: Omer Faruk SEN omerf...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:57 PM Subject: Hast + ZFS + Postgresql on FreeBSD 8.1 To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hi, Is there any one here in this list tried this combo on FreeBSD 8.1 ? I really would like to know your opinions about that. Especially I am concerned on how to keep consistency of database and recovery procedures in the event of failure (I mean pgsql recovery or any) Regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [off-topic] Server-side IRC channel logging? (not statistics)
On 8/22/10 3:19 AM, jhell wrote: On 08/19/2010 06:05, Glen Barber wrote: On 8/19/10 4:18 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: So you can set up the server but you can't install a client on the server machine? I can - I would prefer not to. Compile a static version of ircII and run it from the object directory without installing it. Hi, An off-list reply suggested I look at irc/eggdrop, which is doing what I want. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS jails
On 8/21/10 11:57 PM, Joe wrote: I am thinking about running zfs on the host for everything except booting the system. I plan to create a 1gb zfs area which I want to use for a jail directory tree. Is this possible? Yep. # zfs create -o quota=1G tank/usr/jail Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
New bwn driver
I have an HP pavilion zd825us which has a Broadcom ethernet that appears to be supported by the new bwn driver. I have, for several years now, been using the NDIS driver based on Project Evil. Since bwn came out in 8.1, I tried it and it pretty much works but I get a couple errors sporadically. Here are the dmesgs: Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: siba_bwn0: Broadcom BCM4318 802.11b/g Wireless mem 0xc8206000-0xc8207fff irq 17 at device 3.0 on pci11 Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0 on siba_bwn0 Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: WLAN (chipid 0x4318 rev 9) PHY (analog 3 type 2 rev 7) RADIO (manuf 0x17f ver 0x2050 rev 8) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: DMA (32 bits) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: [FILTER] Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: firmware version (rev 410 patch 2160 date 0x751a time 0x7c0a) Aug 21 11:39:29 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: need multicast update callback Aug 20 17:01:37 laptop2 kernel: bwn0: RX decryption attempted (old 0 keyidx 0x2) Occasionally, a message appears on the console indicating that mDNSResponder had an issue: Aug 20 19:45:42 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNSPlatformSendUDP got error 51 (Network is unreachable) sending packet to 224.0.0.251 on interface 127.0.0.1/lo0/2 Aug 21 11:39:56 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNSResponder (Engineering Build) (Aug 4 2010 09:50:01) starting And when I use the NDIS driver, I see this lock not held... Aug 21 11:39:56 laptop2 mDNSResponder: mDNS_AddDNSServer: Lock not held! mDNS_busy (0) mDNS_reentrancy (0) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com articulated: Those would be the nVidia binary drivers. There's also x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. I avoid nVidia cards, so someone else will have to comment on those. I came to this party late, so please excuse me if this has been discussed. 1) Ha the user installed the latest nVidia driver from ports: Port: nvidia-driver-195.36.15 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering And it accompanying utilities: Port: nvidia-settings-195.36.31 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-settings Info: Display Control Panel for X NVidia driver Port: nvidia-xconfig-195.36.31 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-xconfig Info: Tool to manipulate X configuration files for the NVidia driver And installed a line in the /boot/loader.conf file for this driver: nvidia_load=YES # nVidia video driver 2) After doing the above, if not done previously, reboot the system. 3) Move to the /etc/X11 directory and run as root: nvidia-xconfig The man nvidia-xconfig file will supply all the details. You really should not run it with any command line arguments the first time. 4) Now start 'xorg and run as root: nvidia-settings. That should complete the process. You may have to reload 'xorg' for all settings to take affect. Please see man nvidia-settings for full details. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ 40 isn't old, if you are a tree. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to restore a text file from UFS??
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:17:00 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: For future reference; you should never edit files in /etc/ directly. If you want ot edit files in /etc or /usr/local/etc, first copy them to a directory in your $HOME, put them under revision control and then edit them and copy the edited files to /etc. That way you always have a backup and you can even restore previous versions. I've documented the procedure I use on my webpage; http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/configfiles.html This failure, where files are truncated to 0 bytes after an unclean shutdown isn't the same way ext4 was truncating files when using editors which overwrite files in-place (as opposed to writing to a temporary file then renaming) is it? Does calling fsync on FreeBSD not ensure that even with SoftUpdates the data is on the disk before the editor has exited? -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
Marc Fonvieille wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 07:41:49PM -0700, Fred Boatwright wrote: Warren Block wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Warren Block wrote: Log file is at http://wonkity.com/~wblock/tmp/Xorg.0.log First notes: You're running the old version of X, 1.6.1. Something odd is going on with some of the fonts. I installed ports/x11/xorg-minimal as the full Monty appeared to be a huge amount of software that will never get used. I don't want all the stuff for gnome and kde as I will never use them. It appeared to me that the fonts could be straightened out when everything else is working. I think the Handbook has a section on adding fonts. While looking for the xorg-minimal that I installed I found a bunch of nVidea drivers in the same directory. Do you think I should install them now or wait. For x11/xorg-minimal installation you issued the command: make install or make install VIDEO_DRIVER=your_video_driver ? Without the mention of the driver it installs the vesa driver only. This is sub-optimal, an options screen with all existing drivers should be proposed. -- Marc I used make install as I had no way of knowing that additional drivers could be selected. Perhaps that should be an option to the sysinstall program when FBSD is initially being installed. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
Tijl Coosemans wrote: On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: Eitan Adler wrote: The actual problem I am having is that startx produces only a completely black screen.  Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro  produces the expected grid and mouse pointer.  A .xinitrc file is supposed to start a window manager. Modern X.org installs don't show a default window manager (so a black screen is expected). What is the contents of your .xinitrc file? The .xinitrc file: xrdb xsetroot -solid gray xterm -geometry +0-100 xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm I have also tried twm. This file was generated from an example in the Handbook. Check if you actually have those programs installed. If not, you need to install these ports: x11/xrdb, x11/xsetroot, x11/xterm, x11/xconsole, x11-wm/fvwm. Those programs are actually installed. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
Jerry wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com articulated: Those would be the nVidia binary drivers. There's also x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. I avoid nVidia cards, so someone else will have to comment on those. I came to this party late, so please excuse me if this has been discussed. 1) Ha the user installed the latest nVidia driver from ports: Port: nvidia-driver-195.36.15 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering And it accompanying utilities: Port: nvidia-settings-195.36.31 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-settings Info: Display Control Panel for X NVidia driver Port: nvidia-xconfig-195.36.31 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-xconfig Info: Tool to manipulate X configuration files for the NVidia driver And installed a line in the /boot/loader.conf file for this driver: nvidia_load=YES # nVidia video driver 2) After doing the above, if not done previously, reboot the system. 3) Move to the /etc/X11 directory and run as root: nvidia-xconfig The man nvidia-xconfig file will supply all the details. You really should not run it with any command line arguments the first time. 4) Now start 'xorg and run as root: nvidia-settings. That should complete the process. You may have to reload 'xorg' for all settings to take affect. Please see man nvidia-settings for full details. -- Jerry â?? freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ 40 isn't old, if you are a tree. ___ Hi Jerry, I do not have the driver you suggest on the CD. I have: nividia-driver nividia-driver-173 nividia-driver-71 nividia-driver-96 Which should be used? I was not able to find the version you mentioned with the freebsd website ports search function. Since Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro works then I think the default vesa driver should work until the other problems are sorted out. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to restore a text file from UFS??
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 03:14:58PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:17:00 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: For future reference; you should never edit files in /etc/ directly. If you want ot edit files in /etc or /usr/local/etc, first copy them to a directory in your $HOME, put them under revision control and then edit them and copy the edited files to /etc. That way you always have a backup and you can even restore previous versions. I've documented the procedure I use on my webpage; http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/configfiles.html This failure, where files are truncated to 0 bytes after an unclean shutdown isn't the same way ext4 was truncating files when using editors which overwrite files in-place (as opposed to writing to a temporary file then renaming) is it? It could be a use of ftruncate(2) on FreeBSD as well. As to ext4, I don't know. Does calling fsync on FreeBSD not ensure that even with SoftUpdates the data is on the disk before the editor has exited? I think so, to the extent that FreeBSD is able. Disks usually cache writes internally, so if the system crashes before that cache is flushed, you'll lose data. You can disable the write cache for ad(4) by setting the sysctl hw.ata.wc to 0 at boot time, but this will impact performance. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpPWF3nSVIs8.pgp Description: PGP signature
msmtp/comcast
Anyone using msmtp with Comcast? I have in the past used this in conjunction with Mutt, but can't get it to work now. Here is my .msmtprc: accountdefault host smtp.comcast.net from my email address authon user user name password my passwrd port587 When I try to send from Mutt I get this error message: msmtp: cannot use a secure authentication method msmtp: could not send mail (account default from /home/rem/.msmtprc As I say, I have in the past used this setup with Comcast and it worked fine. ---Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any awk gurus on the list?
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 12:12 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how to use awk to parse values from a string of
unknown length and unknown fields using awk, from within a shell script, and
write those values to a file in a certain order.
Here's a typical string that I want to parse:
alert ip
[50.0.0.0/8,100.0.0.0/6,104.0.0.0/5,112.0.0.0/6,173.0.0.0/8,174.0.0.0/7,176.0.0.0/5,184.0.0.0/6]
any - $HOME_NET any (msg:ET POLICY Reserved IP Space Traffic - Bogon Nets
2;
classtype:bad-unknown; reference:url,www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html;
threshold: type limit, track by_src, count 1, seconds 360; sid:2002750;
rev:10;)
What I want to do is extract the value after sid:, the value after
reference: and the value after msg: and insert them into a file that
would
look like this:
2002750 || ET POLICY Reserved IP Space Traffic - Bogon Nets 2 ||
url,www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html
Probably not a complete solution for your problem domain but you might
glean an idea or two from this:
awk 'BEGIN {FS=\\(|; *} /#/ {next} {for(i=1;i=NF;i++) print
$i}' mtc.rules.test | awk 'BEGIN {FS=: ; OFS= || } $1 ==
sid {sid=$2} $1 == msg {msg=$2} $1 == reference {ref=$2}
$1 == ) {print sid,msg,ref}'
Yes, I know I could do this easily in Perl. I'm doing this to try and
improve
my understanding of awk. I *think* I've figured out that the right approach
is
to use an associative array, and this command:
No need for an array unless you want to retain the records for later
processing. For simple record-by-record processing scalar vars suffice.
# awk '!/#/ { for (i=1; i=NF; i++) { if ( $i ~ /sid/) {mtcmsg[sid]=$i;
print
mtcmsg[sid]}}}' /usr/local/etc/snort/rules/mtc.rules.test
A couple of things to note:
$i ~ /sid/ : will match the string sid anywhere within the
field - either use ~ /^sid$/ or == sid for exact matching
mtcmsg[sid] : references the scalar var named sid (which is
empty = mtcmsg[])
Of course, if you choose to you can also just execute some
run-of-the-mill regex matches and string manipulations in awk:
awk '!/#/ {s1=match($0, sid:[^;]*); if (s1) sid=substr($0,
RSTART+4, RLENGTH-4); s2=match($0, msg:[^;]*); if (s2)
msg=substr($0, RSTART+4, RLENGTH-4); s3=match($0,
reference:[^;]*); if (s3) ref=substr($0, RSTART+10,
RLENGTH-10); if (s1*s2*s3) print sid || msg || ref}'
mtc.rules.test
but that lacks any real awk-ness.
Wayne
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zpool bootfs property
I was just able to change my zfs boot pool to raid0 by resetting the bootfs property, adding the slice, and setting it back. I was able to find a webpage talking about importing FreeBSD zfs pools into opensolaris and having problems with disk management because of the bootfs property. With the property set, `zpool add ...` prints out root pool can not have multiple vdevs or separate logs which confused me because of FreeBSD supporting booting from raidz drives. So now I wonder, is the bootfs property needed in FreeBSD? If it needs set for at least booting, then will having it set cause headaches when working with a raidz pool and a failed drive? And should the wiki be updated? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:42:35 -0700 Fred Boatwright f...@blakemfg.com articulated: Hi Jerry, I do not have the driver you suggest on the CD. I have: nividia-driver nividia-driver-173 nividia-driver-71 nividia-driver-96 Which should be used? I was not able to find the version you mentioned with the freebsd website ports search function First, update your ports tree. This is what you are looking for: Port: nvidia-driver-195.36.15 Path: /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver Info: NVidia graphics card binary drivers for hardware OpenGL rendering Al;l of the relevant paths, etc. were in the first post I sent regarding this matter. The 173 and other drivers are deprecated and should probably be avoided. If you have one of them installed, do a make_deinstall -dfv nvidia* first before attempting to install the new drive and utilities. If you are still experiencing problems, post back. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree on. Napoleon Bonaparte, Maxims ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
HPC under FreeBSD
Hello: Is the freebsd-hpc list the correct one to discuss about hpc? It appears to be disabled. Or are freebsd-cluster, freebsd-performance? Who do i talk to create a directory in ports with all HPC software for FreeBSD? Can it be done using a directory with links to the real category? Who can point me on the HPC status? Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: The .xinitrc file: xrdb xsetroot -solid gray xterm -geometry +0-100 xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm Is this file executable? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: HPC under FreeBSD
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:07:25 +0200 Eduardo emor...@xroff.net wrote: Who can point me on the HPC status? Brooks Davis (brooks at freebsd.org) gave a talk at EuroBSDCon (http://www.ukuug.org/events/eurobsdcon2009/talks/) and AsiaBSDCon recently about porting HPC tools to FreeBSD, so you might want to talk to him to learn more. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS jails
On 22 August 2010 13:49, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/10 11:57 PM, Joe wrote: I am thinking about running zfs on the host for everything except booting the system. I plan to create a 1gb zfs area which I want to use for a jail directory tree. Is this possible? Yep. # zfs create -o quota=1G tank/usr/jail Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org you might want the reserve as well ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 07:19:36PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: The .xinitrc file: xrdb xsetroot -solid gray xterm -geometry +0-100 xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm Is this file executable? It doesn't have to be executable but xrdb needs arguments or it just waits for input. My suggestion to Fred: drop the xrdb line in his ~/.xinitrc Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg Problems
Frank Shute wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 07:19:36PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: On Sunday 22 August 2010 06:22:48 Fred Boatwright wrote: The .xinitrc file: xrdb xsetroot -solid gray xterm -geometry +0-100 xconsole -geometry -0+0 -fn 5x7 #exec olvwm #complained about a missing font exec fvwm Is this file executable? It doesn't have to be executable but xrdb needs arguments or it just waits for input. My suggestion to Fred: drop the xrdb line in his ~/.xinitrc Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html Well, some progress has been made! The .xinitrc file is not executable. I found the file on my Sun running Solaris 2.6. That file also does not have execute permissions but it has #!/bin/sh at the beginning. However, that doesn't appear to be needed under FBSD. I tried an empty .Xresources file but that didn't make any difference. Commenting out the xrdb does allow the window manager to start. The .xinitrc file was generated from an example in the man page for xinit, not the Handbook as I earlier stated. So, I can move forward again. Thank you very much for the help. Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 01:29:42PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: no X11, but i do need it. is there a way of getting, say, [c]twm configured remotely? I don't think you have to. You just have to tell the X programs you want to run on the server to connect to the X server on the machine you're working on. Read the following HOWTO: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Remote-X-Apps.html Suppose you are working on a machine called desktop.thought.org, and the server is server.thought.org. You have to set up the X server on desktop.thought.org to accept remote connections using xhost(1) or xauth(1). You have to configure your firewall on desktop of allow connections on tcp/udp ports 6000-6063 from server.thought.org through. Then you should be able to login to the server via ssh, and start e.g. an X terminal on the display of the desktop by giving the following command in the ssh session: xterm -display desktop.thought.org:0 You could also set the DISPLAY variable on server.thought.org to point to desktop.thought.org:0. That way you don't have to start every X program with the -display argument. i managed to have portupgrade finish succesfuully last night without breaking anything. there were 33 things that failed, 0 skipped, and More than 450 ports successfully upgraded. i checked with pkgdb -Favf; it worked. what failed was related to the x11 drivers. AFAIK, you don't need the drivers to do X forwarding. But you _do_ need the X11 libraries and header files to compile X programs. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp8tFDJgJzD5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:34:46AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 04:13:17PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Klinekl...@thought.org wrote: of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can click-over to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server [ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really cannot do much on ethic. i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around under there (c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. /usr/ports/sysutils/synergy this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. . ssh? sure. for simple things. but i need to get X going to get my UPS set up. also, to properly upgrade things. i was upgrading via ssh and something broke. it took an hour of messing around to get ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working. You just said two things that seem to contradict each other. You said you need to get X going to get the UPS set up, but earlier you said you don't have X installed on the server? Why would you need X to properly upgrade things? The upgrading of both the OS and ports works primarily with command-line tools. Do you realize that you can make more than one ssh connection to a server in case you want e.g. one shell to make run programs in and another to keep an eye on things. If you don't have X set up on the server, you should use ssh (or telnet if you have a trusted network). If you do have X set up on the server, you can use the net/vnc port to view the server's X11 screen on another machine. And ssh can also do X forwarding. no X11, but i do need it. is there a way of getting, say, [c]twm configured remotely? i managed to have portupgrade finish succesfuully last night without breaking anything. there were 33 things that failed, 0 skipped, and More than 450 ports successfully upgraded. i checked with pkgdb -Favf; it worked. what failed was related to the x11 drivers. the machine is a 2009 dell 550 inspiron. i do not want to do too much with X so as to avoid some kind of crash that will break everything. still, it would be nice to have X for /root and for the UPS. the server and telco modem is my connection to the outside world so i don't want to take too many risks. but now that everything is up to date [port-wise], now what? gary Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Thinkpad Wireless
I just acquired an IBM Thinkpad R51 on which I have installed 8.1 Release. I have scoured the handbook and tried a number of different combinations in /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf to get the wireless working, but so far with no luck. Can anyone give me a heads up on getting wireless operating on this laptop? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Is this bunk.
This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, or filing bugs or whatever. (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most significantly Apple. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
OS X is based on Darwin which was, as I understand it, inspired by BSD but not specifically FreeBSD; most like was Net or OpenBSD. But, you can say the same about Windows, Mac OS and X11 because they were all inspired by Xerox PARC... Or a brand of tires because they look a lot like another brand, on the inside of the tire. On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Garry wrote: This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, or filing bugs or whatever. (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most significantly Apple. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
It's a lot like complaining that your bull is counterproductive because it isn't a cow and therefore won't yield milk. If one's definition of productive is expands the amount of software in the universe that is non-proprietary, then perhaps the BSD license is non-productive -- but that was never its goal. The license serves to improve the amount of reusable software in the universe -- and in doing so, the quality of that code -- and in the process, the idea that entities could leverage it to build proprietary extensions is in the mix. Many companies have built products with proprietary components using BSD-licensed baselines. Rather than start from scratch, they ended up with products that were less expensive and higher-quality. For many of these companies, religious compliance to software liberation is not a pill they would consider swallowing. On 8/22/10 5:25 PM, Garry wrote: This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, or filing bugs or whatever. (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most significantly Apple. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 8:12 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: I just acquired an IBM Thinkpad R51 on which I have installed 8.1 Release. I have scoured the handbook and tried a number of different combinations in /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf to get the wireless working, but so far with no luck. Can anyone give me a heads up on getting wireless operating on this laptop? Hi Rem, First off, do you know what wireless chipset you have? You can find out using: pciconf -lv though without knowing what manufacturer, I can't quite say what to look for. As far as the settings, have a look at this section of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html particularly where you configure wlan0 as the interface in rc.conf - pre-8.0-RELEASE, the convention was to use: ifconfig_ath0=DHCP where iwn0 was an Atheros-based chipset. The new way is to set the following in rc.conf: wlans_ath0=wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0=DHCP Maybe you can put the output of the pciconf command I referenced earlier on pastebin - I think that might help us get you in the right direction faster. Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 10:47 PM, Glen Barber wrote: particularly where you configure wlan0 as the interface in rc.conf - pre-8.0-RELEASE, the convention was to use: ifconfig_ath0=DHCP where iwn0 was an Atheros-based chipset. The new way is to set the following in rc.conf: Of course, iwn0 is a typo... :) -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 8:12 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: I just acquired an IBM Thinkpad R51 on which I have installed 8.1 Release. I have scoured the handbook and tried a number of different combinations in /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf to get the wireless working, but so far with no luck. Can anyone give me a heads up on getting wireless operating on this laptop? Hi Rem, First off, do you know what wireless chipset you have? You can find out using: pciconf -lv though without knowing what manufacturer, I can't quite say what to look for. As far as the settings, have a look at this section of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html particularly where you configure wlan0 as the interface in rc.conf - pre-8.0-RELEASE, the convention was to use: ifconfig_ath0=DHCP where iwn0 was an Atheros-based chipset. The new way is to set the following in rc.conf: wlans_ath0=wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0=DHCP Maybe you can put the output of the pciconf command I referenced earlier on pastebin - I think that might help us get you in the right direction faster. Regards, Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned from pciconf -lv shows: device= 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' Cheers... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 11:00 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned from pciconf -lv shows: device= 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' Perfect. Is 220BG a typo? I see that iwi(4) supports 2200BG/2225BG and so on. If it _is_ a typo, try this: echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1' /boot/loader.conf echo 'if_iwi_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_bss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_ibss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_monitor_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf (Note, the differentiation between the single- and double-quotes.) After a reboot, you should see iwi0 in ifconfig(8) output. (I'm not aware of a way to acknowledge the license agreement without a reboot.) Then you should be able to configure your wlan0 device similarly to your Presario. Hope this helps. Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Garry wrote: This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Apple hired a lot of key people from the FreeBSD project. I don't know just what comes back to FreeBSD out of Apple but suspect the reason you and myself don't know is that Apple doesn't care to toot their own horn. Apple made a significant contribution a while back testing and improving NFS. As for how much of MacOS X is BSD, pretty much all of the command line stuff. Apple has gone to great lengths to XML-ize most everything so while MacOS is BSD, its probably the most distant BSD cousin. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. NT 3.51 used to flash a Berkeley Software Distribution copyright message on the text console during boot because some code was used. Doubt MS could leave well enough alone to simply lift the entire stack. The VMS-inspired NT kernel was probably not organized in such a way as to optimally use an unmodified BSD network protocol stack. So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, or filing bugs or whatever. (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. So why are you here? Trolling? It bugs the heck out of some people when others manage to build on their work to make something better, and then not give it away to everyone else. Others realize that if what we do is truly useful then others will want to use it to build bigger and better things. That it doesn't matter if we sell our work or give it away, what others do with it is no skin off our noses. Our original work is still exactly as accessible as it was before others made something more of their own version of it. Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most significantly Apple. Thats one of the big problems of the GPL-mindset. Seems they spend a whole lot more time cloning the work of others than in actually creating anything new. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. There is nothing in the BSD license permitting a hostile takeover. Some would claim FreeBSD has executed a hostile takeover of what it is to be BSD. The pre-FreeBSD code is out there, you are welcome to it. Some would say OpenBSD attempted a hostile takeover of BSD. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 23 August 2010 13:14, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/22/10 11:00 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned from pciconf -lv shows: device = 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' Perfect. Is 220BG a typo? I see that iwi(4) supports 2200BG/2225BG and so on. If it _is_ a typo, try this: echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1' /boot/loader.conf echo 'if_iwi_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_bss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_ibss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_monitor_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf (Note, the differentiation between the single- and double-quotes.) After a reboot, you should see iwi0 in ifconfig(8) output. (I'm not aware of a way to acknowledge the license agreement without a reboot.) Then you should be able to configure your wlan0 device similarly to your Presario. For a fresh install of 8.1 you only need: if_iwi_load=YES legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 cheers, Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 11:21 PM, Rob Byrnes wrote: [snip] echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1' /boot/loader.conf echo 'if_iwi_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_bss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_ibss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_monitor_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf [snip] For a fresh install of 8.1 you only need: if_iwi_load=YES legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 Thanks - I wasn't aware of this. Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. My understanding is that it's a Mach kernel with some FreeBSD userland that has since been worked over with a rake, producing the Darwin OS. Following that, Apple dropped a load of proprietary stuff on top of Darwin to produce MacOS X. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. This is true. So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, or filing bugs or whatever. (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) Good for you. Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. Why not? Tell me what benefit is gained by not using FreeBSD, or what benefit is lost by discouraging others from using your technology. Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most significantly Apple. WebKit is actually not GPLed. It's a combination (at least primarily) of the LGPL and the BSD License. I guess you should stop using any WebKit based browser if you don't like the BSD License. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. In what way is it counterproductive? What goal do you want to serve that the BSD License hinders? Perhaps you should consider some alternative views of the matter. For instance, there's . . . * Copyfree (an alternative to Copyright and Copyleft): http://copyfree.org * Software Liberation Front (counter-copyleft advocacy): http://softwareliberationfront.org * Choose the Right Licensing Model for Security Software: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=610 * Copyfree vs. Copyleft: http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Copyfree_vs_Copyleft * BSD/Copyfree vs. Corporate Copyleft: http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=622 I have found that it's really the GPL, and copyleft licensing in general, that is counterproductive. It has been used to launch attacks on small open source projects, employ anticompetitive and monopolistic business tactics, and keep open source code from being used in other open source projects. In fact, copyleft licenses tend to be mutually incompatible. They prohibit proprietary software projects from using their code, and they also prohibit copyfree software projects (such as the FreeBSD project) from using their code (at least directly) -- but they also prohibit copyleft projects that use a different copyleft license from using their code. I find the hypocrisy rather odious. I suppose your tastes may differ. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpWIl8Gdg3xc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 11:00 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned from pciconf -lv shows: device= 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' Perfect. Is 220BG a typo? I see that iwi(4) supports 2200BG/2225BG and so on. If it _is_ a typo, try this: echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1' /boot/loader.conf echo 'if_iwi_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_bss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_ibss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_monitor_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf (Note, the differentiation between the single- and double-quotes.) After a reboot, you should see iwi0 in ifconfig(8) output. (I'm not aware of a way to acknowledge the license agreement without a reboot.) Then you should be able to configure your wlan0 device similarly to your Presario. Hope this helps. Regards, Yep, it was a typo. OK...iwi0 is now showing up in the ifconfig output. I shall make the (hopefully) appropriate entries in /etc/rc.conf and see what happens. ---Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 11:28 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Yep, it was a typo. OK...iwi0 is now showing up in the ifconfig output. I shall make the (hopefully) appropriate entries in /etc/rc.conf and see what happens. Good to hear. Good luck! Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
good, keep going... youll get there On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.netwrote: On 8/22/10 11:00 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Thanks for your help so far. Yes, I have looked at the handbook section on wireless, and as a matter of fact I installed 8.1 on an ancient Compaq Presario (6GB HD!) and was able to configure the Atheros wireless pci card so that the computer works quite well. OK...the info I gleaned from pciconf -lv shows: device= 'driverIntel PRO/Wirelss 220BG (MPC13B' Perfect. Is 220BG a typo? I see that iwi(4) supports 2200BG/2225BG and so on. If it _is_ a typo, try this: echo 'legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1' /boot/loader.conf echo 'if_iwi_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_bss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_ibss_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf echo 'iwi_monitor_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf (Note, the differentiation between the single- and double-quotes.) After a reboot, you should see iwi0 in ifconfig(8) output. (I'm not aware of a way to acknowledge the license agreement without a reboot.) Then you should be able to configure your wlan0 device similarly to your Presario. Hope this helps. Regards, Yep, it was a typo. OK...iwi0 is now showing up in the ifconfig output. I shall make the (hopefully) appropriate entries in /etc/rc.conf and see what happens. ---Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 11:28 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: Yep, it was a typo. OK...iwi0 is now showing up in the ifconfig output. I shall make the (hopefully) appropriate entries in /etc/rc.conf and see what happens. Good to hear. Good luck! Regards, OK...here's what is happening now. I have put these entries into /etc/rc.conf: wlans_iwi0=wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0=WPA DHCP when I booted up I could see from the wireless beacon indicator that something was happening. But I kept getting this message: iwi0: need multicast update callback And when I tried to do a ping I got the dreaded...ping: cannot resolve yahoo.com: Host name lookup failure...and then all of sudden it started working and I was able to successfully ping, and connect. Is this voodoo :-) ? ---Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/22/10 11:51 PM, Rem P Roberti wrote: OK...here's what is happening now. I have put these entries into /etc/rc.conf: wlans_iwi0=wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0=WPA DHCP when I booted up I could see from the wireless beacon indicator that something was happening. But I kept getting this message: iwi0: need multicast update callback I used to see this on my Toshiba laptop I no longer use (using iwn(4)). It is seemingly harmless. And when I tried to do a ping I got the dreaded...ping: cannot resolve yahoo.com: Host name lookup failure...and then all of sudden it started working and I was able to successfully ping, and connect. In what timeframe from the boot? I suspect WPA was still in the authentication process. My Toshiba's wireless card would take a few seconds (roughly 10) before authenticating. Is this voodoo :-) ? Probably. :) -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
In what timeframe from the boot? I suspect WPA was still in the authentication process. My Toshiba's wireless card would take a few seconds (roughly 10) before authenticating. You are no doubt right...WPA was probably still in the authentication process. Clearly, everything is working now, and I am doing a portupgrade as I write. Now, if I can only get msmtp to work with Comcast I'd be done. For a while. One thing at a time. Thank you for your help. Cheers... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
At 1:25 AM +0100 8/23/10, Garry wrote: Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Mac OS is the Mach kernel, plus a userland and unix libraries which are very much BSD-ish. They pulled in from all three major BSD projects (NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD). On top of that they have their GUI layer, which is Quartz instead of X11, and the development environment which is based on InterfaceBuilder (from NeXTSTEP days) and Objective-C. The Objective-C api's are called Cocoa. Which is to say, if you're counting lines-of-code than most of MacOS is *not* from any BSD. The parts which did come from the BSD's are available as source from Apple (in the project called Darwin). If we don't get much out of Apple, it's because we aren't looking through their source code, and that would not be the fault of Apple. They make sure we can't get much out of their work at the Mach kernel, Quartz, and Cocoa layers, but then they can't get anything out of us for those layers either. So, I don't see what the complaint is. They've also contributed to a number of other open-source projects, projects which have been BSD or GNU licensed. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. This is true. (or at least it definitely used to be true, I have no idea if Vista and Windows7 are still using the BSD networking stack). So you're saying that you would prefer that Microsoft wrote their own networking stack, which everyone else in the world would be *required* to deal with, instead of using a network stack which was already known and tested? Having seen how BSD license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. That is your choice, of course. And, well, I don't care. All I care is how I feel based on my work in the BSD's. I'm happy with how my work has been used. I'm happy to keep contributing, either with code or with donations to help others to produce quality BSD-licensed open-source code. BSD-licensing is probably not appropriate for all projects, but it works well for the kinds of projects that I tend to work on. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = dros...@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or g...@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this bunk.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:25:34AM +0100, Garry wrote: Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. If the kernel is the basis of an OS, then OS X is basically the Mach kernel. The userland part of early versions of OS X borrowed heavily from NetBSD, but much of this has been replaced with FreeBSD in later version. Or so I'm told. As someone else has pointed out, Apple has made some important contributions to NFS, so they are not exactly free riders. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. NT had a notoriously unstable network stack. It suddenly became more stable with Win2k, which turned out to be due to the replacement of much of the code with code taken from FreeBSD, which has a famously stable network stack. People who claim to have seen the MS code say that large parts of it are unchanged from the original FBSD code, and include the original comments. As far as I know, that code is still being used. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive. And the wonderful thing about the proliferation of open source licenses is that you can pick a project with a license that you approve of and never have to have your code encumbered by a license you feel is inferior. The people who use FBSD and the wonderful people who produce it obviously feel that the FBSD license is the sort of license that they want to support. You are free to pity our delusions and choose a project with a more enlightened approach. Best of luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
On 8/23/10 12:11 AM, Rem P Roberti wrote: In what timeframe from the boot? I suspect WPA was still in the authentication process. My Toshiba's wireless card would take a few seconds (roughly 10) before authenticating. You are no doubt right...WPA was probably still in the authentication process. Clearly, everything is working now, and I am doing a portupgrade as I write. Now, if I can only get msmtp to work with Comcast I'd be done. For a while. One thing at a time. Thank you for your help. Glad I could help. Enjoy! -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Thinkpad Wireless
have you considered postfix running in satellite more or smart host ? On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.netwrote: In what timeframe from the boot? I suspect WPA was still in the authentication process. My Toshiba's wireless card would take a few seconds (roughly 10) before authenticating. You are no doubt right...WPA was probably still in the authentication process. Clearly, everything is working now, and I am doing a portupgrade as I write. Now, if I can only get msmtp to work with Comcast I'd be done. For a while. One thing at a time. Thank you for your help. Cheers... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....
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Re: Is this bunk.
On 8/22/2010 7:25 PM, Garry wrote: Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Oh the corny quote, If you love something set it free, if it comes back to you, it was meant to be. GPL is viral, restrictive, forces the code to come back and you can go to court if it doesn't. Code from OpenBSD is used with the Linux kernel, but because of the GPL even Linux kernel modules must be GPLed so the code cannot go back to OpenBSD. It's a theft in the spirit of open source, since it cannot be given back. There are rumors that the CDDL was written to be BSD style and not GPL compatible. Apache and Sendmail are both BSD licensed, but I don't see them getting stolen. As for the GPL itself, I think the biggest problem is who controls it and who enforces it. Companies get sued over busybox frequently, and not by the busybox developers. Stallman's views about how computers should work amounts to near anarchy http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
