Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-17 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100
Chabane HEMDANI hemdani2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the
 web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups without
 any success. I've  an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by package
 print/hplip don't work correctly.
 
 I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE
 I've rebuild a kernel without  ulpt.
 I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and  hpssd.
 I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D
 cups-base-1.4.4 ).
 I've made many other configurations like that suggested at
 http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip
 http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip%20

 and finally, I've given to my students the wrong  answer that no one can
 print under FreeBSD !

Which is wrong, all you need is a printer, that is _supported_.

 Please where is the problem?

The LaserJet 1018 uses another protocol, so you need aditional software.
Take a look at these sites:
 http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018
 http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/

Before buying the next printer, see whether or not it is supported by
Cups http://www.cups.org/ppd.php . Same goes for your students.

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Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long

2010-09-17 Thread David DEMELIER
2010/9/17 Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org:
 On Thu Sep 16 10, David DEMELIER wrote:
 Hi there,

 I can't understand why this part of make buildkernel is so long on my
 amd64 machine (8.1-R)

 make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES |  MKDEP_CPP=cc -E
 CC=cc xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O2 -frename-registers -pipe
 -fno-strict-aliasing  -std=c99  -Wall -Wredundant-decls
 -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes
 -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign
 -fformat-extensions -nostdinc  -I. -I/usr/src/sys
 -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter
 -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath
 -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm
 -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD
 -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD/support -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs
 -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/opensolaris/compat -I/usr/src/sys/dev/cxgb
 -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h
 -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param
 large-function-growth=1000  -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel
 -mno-red-zone  -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-mmx
 -mno-3dnow  -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables
 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector

 This command takes around 5-6 minutes before continuing, on my i386
 machine (which is really old) it only takes about 20 seconds. The
 kernel configs are almost the same for both machines.

 are there any differences in /etc/make.conf?

 cheers.
 alex


 Do you have any idea?

 Kind regards,

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No, except the KERNCONF entry it's exactly the same :

# General settings.
KERNCONF=Melon
MASTER_SORT?= .fr .uk

# Portconf.
.if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports*)  exists(/usr/local/libexec/portconf)
_PORTCONF!=/usr/local/libexec/portconf
.for i in ${_PORTCONF:S/|/ /g}
${i:S/%/ /g}
.endfor
.endif

# Perl.
PERL_VERSION=5.10.1

# No need modules.
NO_MODULES=yes

# Specify other directories.
WRKDIRPREFIX=   /usr/obj
DISTDIR=/usr/distfiles

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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-17 Thread Peter
 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100
 Chabane HEMDANI hemdani2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the
 web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups
 without
 any success. I've  an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by
 package
 print/hplip don't work correctly.

 I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE
 I've rebuild a kernel without  ulpt.
 I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and  hpssd.
 I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D
 cups-base-1.4.4 ).
 I've made many other configurations like that suggested at
 http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip
 http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip%20

 and finally, I've given to my students the wrong  answer that no one
 can
 print under FreeBSD !

 Which is wrong, all you need is a printer, that is _supported_.

 Please where is the problem?

 The LaserJet 1018 uses another protocol, so you need aditional software.
 Take a look at these sites:
  http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018
  http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/

 Before buying the next printer, see whether or not it is supported by
 Cups http://www.cups.org/ppd.php . Same goes for your students.

 Andreas
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I got an HP Laser 1018 - works perfectly fine using the foo2zjs drivers,
and I do believe ultp0.  I can send you my configs once I get home if you
want.  The real pain which I keep forgetting after a reload or on new pc,
was having to initialize [cat firmware  /dev/ulpt0] each time the
computer is rebooted [ie @reboot in cron].

]Peter[

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Re: gateway_enable

2010-09-17 Thread Wolfgang Riegler
Thank you for your support. You're right, our administrator has to add a route 
back to the new gateway.



Am Mittwoch, 15. September 2010, 21:30:08 schrieb Beat Siegenthaler:
 
  On 15.09.10 21:10, Wolfgang Riegler wrote:
 
I thought gateway_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf should be sufficient. But 
   it doesn't work. Do I need something else?
  
  
 Looks all ok.
 But does 192.168.40.1 have a route to 192.168.50.0/24 via GW
 192.168.40.122?
 
   Internet:
   DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
   default192.168.40.1   UGS 00rl0
   127.0.0.1  link#6 UH  00lo0
   192.168.40.0/24link#2 U   1  274rl0
   192.168.40.122 link#2 UHS 00lo0
   192.168.50.0/24link#1 U   0   15re0
   192.168.50.1   link#1 UHS 00lo0
  
 Gruss Beat
 
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Problem with lagg driver at 8.1 ?

2010-09-17 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

I am unable to make the lagg driver to work at 8.1 , it works well
on another machine that runs 7.2

is there a problem with LAGG driver and Cisco switches at 8.1 ?

Thanks

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Re: Need bsd make for AIX

2010-09-17 Thread Ivan Voras

On 09/17/10 05:14, Chuck Robey wrote:

On 09/16/10 20:34, Ivan Voras wrote:

On 09/16/10 08:58, srividy...@tcs.com wrote:

Hi
Is there any BSD make versions available for AIX platform?
We require the make utility of BSD to compile few source programs.

Is there any make utility compatible with AIX? Could you please give us
the URL where we can get the same?


FreeBSD's make is an integral part of the FreeBSD file system. It is not
created to be compatible across systems, but it is also not created to
prevent this kind of porting.


Wow. I disagree. It's been modified over the years to depend heavily on
a set of libraries that are available nowhere else but FreeBSD. This was


The fact that it can be compiled with gcc '-DDEFSHELLNAME=sh' -o make 
*.c indicates that it in fact doesn't use any libraries except for libc...



done (from what I can see) in the name of elegance ... because the
actual functions ARE available elsewhere, but a bunch of modifications
need to be added, no possible way is it going to compile anywhere else.


Oh you're exaggerating, it's not that hard. I've made the attached patch 
in about 20 minutes, and most of it is including the small lc.h ad-hoc 
Linux compatibility header.


I don't claim the patched make will work perfectly but it works for 
simple cases :)


diff -u ../make/arch.c ./arch.c
--- ../make/arch.c  2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./arch.c2010-09-17 12:28:59.0 +0200
@@ -38,6 +38,7 @@
  * @(#)arch.c  8.2 (Berkeley) 1/2/94
  */
 
+#include lc.h
 #include sys/cdefs.h
 __FBSDID($FreeBSD$);
 
diff -u ../make/buf.c ./buf.c
--- ../make/buf.c   2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./buf.c 2010-09-17 12:30:01.0 +0200
@@ -40,6 +40,7 @@
  * @(#)buf.c   8.1 (Berkeley) 6/6/93
  */
 
+#include lc.h
 #include sys/cdefs.h
 __FBSDID($FreeBSD$);
 
diff -u ../make/cond.c ./cond.c
--- ../make/cond.c  2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./cond.c2010-09-17 12:30:25.0 +0200
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@
  * @(#)cond.c  8.2 (Berkeley) 1/2/94
  */
 
+#include lc.h
 #include sys/cdefs.h
 __FBSDID($FreeBSD$);
 
diff -u ../make/dir.c ./dir.c
--- ../make/dir.c   2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./dir.c 2010-09-17 12:30:56.0 +0200
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@
  * @(#)dir.c   8.2 (Berkeley) 1/2/94
  */
 
+#include lc.h
 #include sys/cdefs.h
 __FBSDID($FreeBSD$);
 
diff -u ../make/for.c ./for.c
--- ../make/for.c   2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./for.c 2010-09-17 12:31:32.0 +0200
@@ -32,6 +32,7 @@
  * @(#)for.c   8.1 (Berkeley) 6/6/93
  */
 
+#include lc.h
 #include sys/cdefs.h
 __FBSDID($FreeBSD$);
 
diff -u ../make/hash.c ./hash.c
--- ../make/hash.c  2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./hash.c2010-09-17 12:37:44.0 +0200
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@
  * @(#)hash.c  8.1 (Berkeley) 6/6/93
  */
 
+#include lc.h
 #include sys/cdefs.h
 __FBSDID($FreeBSD$);
 
diff -u ../make/hash_tables.c ./hash_tables.c
--- ../make/hash_tables.c   2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./hash_tables.c 2010-09-17 12:37:58.0 +0200
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@
  * auto-generated from FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/make/parse.c,v 1.114 2008/03/12 
14:50:58 obrien Exp 
  * DO NOT EDIT
  */
+#include lc.h
 #include sys/types.h
 
 #include hash_tables.h
diff -u ../make/job.c ./job.c
--- ../make/job.c   2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./job.c 2010-09-17 12:38:12.0 +0200
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@
  * @(#)job.c   8.2 (Berkeley) 3/19/94
  */
 
+#include lc.h
 #include sys/cdefs.h
 __FBSDID($FreeBSD$);
 
Only in .: lc.h
Only in .: .lc.h.swp
diff -u ../make/lst.c ./lst.c
--- ../make/lst.c   2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./lst.c 2010-09-17 12:38:23.0 +0200
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
  * lst.c --
  * Routines to maintain a linked list of objects.
  */
-
+#include lc.h
 #include stdio.h
 #include stdlib.h
 
diff -u ../make/main.c ./main.c
--- ../make/main.c  2010-09-17 12:56:04.0 +0200
+++ ./main.c2010-09-17 12:55:03.0 +0200
@@ -37,6 +37,8 @@
  *
  * @(#)main.c  8.3 (Berkeley) 3/19/94
  */
+#include lc.h
+#undef __unused
 
 #ifndef lint
 #if 0
@@ -372,7 +374,7 @@
 
 rearg:
optind = 1; /* since we're called more than once */
-   optreset = 1;
+/* optreset = 1;*/
 #define OPTFLAGS ABC:D:d:E:ef:I:ij:km:nPpQqrSstV:vXx:
for (;;) {
if ((optind  argc)  strcmp(argv[optind], --) == 0) {
@@ -529,7 +531,7 @@
MFLAGS_append(-q, NULL);
break;
case 'r':
-   noBuiltins = TRUE;
+   noBuiltins = !noBuiltins;
MFLAGS_append(-r, NULL);
break;
case 'S':
@@ -892,7 +894,7 @@
 * Initialize file global variables.
 */
expandVars = TRUE;
-   noBuiltins = FALSE; /* Read the built-in rules */
+   noBuiltins = TRUE;  /* Read the built-in rules */

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start

2010-09-17 Thread n dhert
There seems to be a problem with starting up the IMAP proxy server
imapproxyd:
# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start
says
Starting imapproxyd.
but doesn't return the # prompt ...
# ps -jawx | grep imap
root  21490 21426 21490 64248 1 S+  3 0:00.01 /bin/sh
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start
root 21496 21490 21490 64218  1 S+  3 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/in.imapproxyd

I would expect the /bin/sh line to disappear and the # prompt to come back.

If (from another terminal window) I do
# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd stop
is says
Stopping imapproxyd.
#  (returns the prompt)

If the first window, it says:
Terminated
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd: WARNING: failed to start imapproxyd
??

1. what is wrong here and how to correct it ?

2. also, although I do have a user nobody and a group nobody in FreeBSD 8
and the config file /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf specifies (default
setting)
proc_username nobody
proc_groupname nobody
I wonder why the processes (ps -jawx) show root as the process owner ?
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Re: Need bsd make for AIX

2010-09-17 Thread Ivan Voras

On 09/17/10 12:58, Ivan Voras wrote:


I don't claim the patched make will work perfectly but it works for
simple cases :)



Also archived here (with the lc.h missed in previous version):
http://people.freebsd.org/~ivoras/diffs/make-lc.patch


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Re: Need bsd make for AIX

2010-09-17 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:40 PM,  srividy...@tcs.com wrote:
 We have some open source code for RPC calls - DCE that has c programs and
 corresponding makefiles.
 When we tried gmake or make ( AIX make) , we were getting syntax errors.
 We found that all the makefiles had syntax that corresponds to makeutility
 of BSD?

 Do you have any alternative?
 Is there any BSD make utility that can be installed in AIX machine?

 Srividya K
 Tata Consultancy Services
 Mailto: srividy...@tcs.com
 Website: http://www.tcs.com
 

Perhaps you could contact the authors of the code you are trying to
compile and ask them how they did it. They might have a
straightforward solution and maybe a reason as to why they chose BSD
make

Also, have you tried bmake?

Regards
Gautham Ganapathy
http://lisphacker.org
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Re: Plextor PX-870A drives

2010-09-17 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:40:49 -0400, Robert Ames roberta...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a couple of Plextor PX-870A drives in different machines
 (see below) that I'm trying to use with atapicam.  The drives mostly
 work (booting, reading data, etc.) but for whatever reason neither
 of them will play audio CDs using the cdcontrol play command.
 They just sit there.  The drives never spin up. 

Have you made sure that this drive can actually play audio CDs?
I assume that drive exist that can't. It's easy to check:

# cdrecord -prcap -dev 0,0,0

Watch for the line Does play audio CDs. This assumes you have
ATAPICAM facility loaded.


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Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Bye
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 01:02:03PM +0200, n dhert wrote:
 There seems to be a problem with starting up the IMAP proxy server
 imapproxyd:
 # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start
 says
 Starting imapproxyd.
 but doesn't return the # prompt ...
 # ps -jawx | grep imap
 root  21490 21426 21490 64248 1 S+  3 0:00.01 /bin/sh
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd start
 root 21496 21490 21490 64218  1 S+  3 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/in.imapproxyd
 
 I would expect the /bin/sh line to disappear and the # prompt to come back.

And so it should. I have just installed and tested it, and it works fine.
The only way I can replicate the behaviour you report is if I misspell the
name of the backend IMAP server - so start checking there. If it's not a
typo, it is likely some other variety of DNS error.

 
 If (from another terminal window) I do
 # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd stop
 is says
 Stopping imapproxyd.
 #  (returns the prompt)
 
 If the first window, it says:
 Terminated
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapproxyd: WARNING: failed to start imapproxyd
 ??
 
 1. what is wrong here and how to correct it ?
 
 2. also, although I do have a user nobody and a group nobody in FreeBSD 8
 and the config file /usr/local/etc/imapproxyd.conf specifies (default
 setting)
 proc_username nobody
 proc_groupname nobody
 I wonder why the processes (ps -jawx) show root as the process owner ?

It will need to start as root in order to bind all the resources it needs,
before dropping privileges. Remember that only root can bind ports below
1024. It works fine here.

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RE: Plextor PX-870A drives

2010-09-17 Thread Robert Ames

It claims to be able to play audio CDs.

$ cdrecord -prcap -dev 2,0,0
scsidev: '2,0,0'
scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd8.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J\xf6rg 
Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 3
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR '
Identifikation : 'DVDR   PX-870A  '
Revision   : '1.06'   
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
  
Drive capabilities, per MMC-3 page 2A:
  
  Does read CD-R media
  Does write CD-R media
  Does read CD-RW media
  Does write CD-RW media
  Does read DVD-ROM media
  Does read DVD-R media
  Does write DVD-R media
  Does read DVD-RAM media
  Does write DVD-RAM media
  Does support test writing

  Does read Mode 2 Form 1 blocks
  Does read Mode 2 Form 2 blocks
  Does read digital audio blocks
  Does restart non-streamed digital audio reads accurately
  Does support Buffer-Underrun-Free recording
  Does read multi-session CDs
  Does read fixed-packet CD media using Method 2
  Does not read CD bar code
  Does read R-W subcode information
  Does return R-W subcode de-interleaved and error-corrected
  Does read raw P-W subcode data from lead in
  Does return CD media catalog number
  Does return CD ISRC information
  Does support C2 error pointers
  Does not deliver composite A/V data

  Does play audio CDs
  Number of volume control levels: 256
  Does support individual volume control setting for each channel
  Does support independent mute setting for each channel
  Does not support digital output on port 1
  Does not support digital output on port 2

  Loading mechanism type: tray
  Does support ejection of CD via START/STOP command
  Does not lock media on power up via prevent jumper
  Does allow media to be locked in the drive via PREVENT/ALLOW command
  Is not currently in a media-locked state
  Does not support changing side of disk
  Does not have load-empty-slot-in-changer feature
  Does not support Individual Disk Present feature

  Maximum read  speed:  8468 kB/s (CD  48x, DVD  6x)
  Current read  speed:  8468 kB/s (CD  48x, DVD  6x)
  Maximum write speed:  8468 kB/s (CD  48x, DVD  6x)
  Current write speed:  8468 kB/s (CD  48x, DVD  6x)
  Rotational control selected: CLV/PCAV
  Buffer size in KB: 2048
  Copy management revision supported: 1
  Number of supported write speeds: 10
  Write speed # 0:  8467 kB/s CAV (CD  48x, DVD  6x)
  Write speed # 1:  7056 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  40x, DVD  5x)
  Write speed # 2:  5645 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  32x, DVD  4x)
  Write speed # 3:  4234 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  24x, DVD  3x)
  Write speed # 4:  2822 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  16x, DVD  2x)
  Write speed # 5:  1411 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD   8x, DVD  1x)
  Write speed # 6: 0 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD   0x, DVD  0x)
  Write speed # 7: 0 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD   0x, DVD  0x)
  Write speed # 8: 0 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD   0x, DVD  0x)
  Write speed # 9: 0 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD   0x, DVD  0x)

 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:07:23 +0200
 From: free...@edvax.de
 To: roberta...@hotmail.com
 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Plextor PX-870A drives
 
 On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:40:49 -0400, Robert Ames roberta...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
  
  I have a couple of Plextor PX-870A drives in different machines
  (see below) that I'm trying to use with atapicam.  The drives mostly
  work (booting, reading data, etc.) but for whatever reason neither
  of them will play audio CDs using the cdcontrol play command.
  They just sit there.  The drives never spin up. 
 
 Have you made sure that this drive can actually play audio CDs?
 I assume that drive exist that can't. It's easy to check:
 
   # cdrecord -prcap -dev 0,0,0
 
 Watch for the line Does play audio CDs. This assumes you have
 ATAPICAM facility loaded.
 
 
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Re: Windows AD and ntpd sync problem

2010-09-17 Thread David Rawling

 On 13/09/2010 4:45 PM, Omer Faruk SEN wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to sync my time against a ntp server on Active Directory
but no matter what i do ntpd did not sync against AD's NTP server.
ntpdate works perfectly against AD but not ntpd.
I think you will have trouble doing this. AD's time service is not a true NTP 
service - it's SNTP with a dash of smarts around increasing frequency and 
backing off, plus automatic selection of masters / distribution hierarchy.


I'd suggest setting up the NTP server to use the NTP Pool project 
(pool.ntp.org, or the appropriate country subdomain) and configuring AD to 
synchronise to the NTP server (that should work fine).


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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-17 Thread Derek Funk

On 9/17/2010 2:14 AM, Peter wrote:

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 01:45:54 +0100
Chabane HEMDANIhemdani2...@gmail.com  wrote:



I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the
web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups
without
any success. I've  an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by
package
print/hplip don't work correctly.

I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE
I've rebuild a kernel without  ulpt.
I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and  hpssd.
I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D
cups-base-1.4.4 ).
I've made many other configurations like that suggested at
http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip
http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip%20




and finally, I've given to my students the wrong  answer that no one
can
print under FreeBSD !


Which is wrong, all you need is a printer, that is _supported_.



Please where is the problem?


The LaserJet 1018 uses another protocol, so you need aditional software.
Take a look at these sites:
  http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018
  http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/

Before buying the next printer, see whether or not it is supported by
Cups http://www.cups.org/ppd.php . Same goes for your students.

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I got an HP Laser 1018 - works perfectly fine using the foo2zjs drivers,
and I do believe ultp0.  I can send you my configs once I get home if you
want.  The real pain which I keep forgetting after a reload or on new pc,
was having to initialize [cat firmware  /dev/ulpt0] each time the
computer is rebooted [ie @reboot in cron].

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The issue I tend to get is cups doesnt have permission to access the 
/dev/ulpt...

i have to add an entry in devfs.conf to all it to print
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Re: apropos returning same item twice

2010-09-17 Thread Steven Friedrich
On Thursday 16 September 2010 4:12:44 am Wayne Sierke wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:27 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 September 2010 12:39:15 pm Wayne Sierke wrote:
   On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:37 +, Alexander Best wrote:
On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote:
 Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice?
 
 It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde...

maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ?

see PR #4419.

cheers.
alex
   
   Are you certain that /etc/manpath.config doesn't just still
   have /usr/X11R6/man configured (as well as /usr/local/man)? Admittedly
   the kde issue is a mystery, assuming its manpages are installed
   in /usr/local/man. This system has the following:
   
   OPTIONAL_MANPATH  /usr/local/man
   # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) OPTIONAL_MANPATH  /usr/X11R6/man
   
   MANPATH_MAP   /usr/local/bin  /usr/local/man
   # (disabled by xorg-libraries port)
   MANPATH_MAP   /usr/X11R6/bin  /usr/X11R6/man
   
   
   Is the whatis file being updated? Check the timestamp:
   
   # ls -l /usr/local/man/whatis
   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  273178 Sep 11 04:22 /usr/local/man/whatis
   
   
   Wayne
   
 ad...@laptop2(/dev/pts/1)/usr/home/admin 106% apropos mysql
  
  snip
  
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  I still have X11R6 in usr symlinked to /usr/local. This was done per
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  Do we still need this symlink?
 
 Yes, anything that references /usr/X11R6 gets directed to /usr/local.

Well I temporarily removed it and this anomaly disappeared. Perhaps we just 
have to suffer until we know the symlink can be removed. I thought it was 
going to eventually be removed...

 
 Did you check /etc/manpath.config and the timestamp
 on /usr/local/man/whatis?
 
grep -v '^#' manpath.config 
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/share/man  
   
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/share/openssl/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/man
MANPATH_MAP /bin/usr/share/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/usr/share/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin  /usr/local/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/perl/man


 Another check is that the output of manpath(1) doesn't
 include /usr/X11R6/man.
 

manpath
/usr/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/local/kde4/man:/usr/share/openssl/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/perl/man

 
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Latest KDE 4.5.1

2010-09-17 Thread Steven Friedrich
Can anyone install the Fortune plasma widget?

It doen't show up in my widget box, and I even tried to install the downloaded 
plasmoid I found in /tmp/kde-admin. No joy.

I'm trying to discover if this anomaly is everywhere, or I just need to 
rebuild something..

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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-17 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 01:45:54AM +0100, Chabane HEMDANI wrote:

  I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm
 using FreeBSD since 2007 when I discover it by chance when searching in
 the Web something about Linux.
  Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to install
 and use this magical and my favorite system.
 
 However, all my students retort me that they have a problem of installing
 their printers. I have so this problem, so I can't tell good-bye
 definitively to winosor and Linux. I always need them for printing.
 
 I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the
 web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups without
 any success. I've  an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by package
 print/hplip don't work correctly.
 
 I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE
 I've rebuild a kernel without  ulpt.
 I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and  hpssd.
 I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D
 cups-base-1.4.4 ).
 I've made many other configurations like that suggested at
 http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip
 http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip%20
 and finally, I've given to my students the wrong  answer that no one can
 print under FreeBSD !
 
 
 
 Please where is the problem?
 Please help me to help others.
 Please help me to enlarge the FreeBSD users community.

Many congratulations on your efforts to promote FreeBSD!

I'm not going to tell you how to print with CUPS as it's too
complicated and fragile for my liking.

Have you thought about using lpd(8)? If your printer can understand
Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly
simple process as you just send the raw PS to the printer with lpr(1)
via a spool and filter.

My filter:

#!/bin/sh

cat - 
echo \f

#

and my printcap(5) isn't overly complicated either and the format is
well documented in it's manpage.

Most Unix applications can produce Postscript or PDF (which can be
converted to PS with ps2pdf which comes with Ghostscript) and LaTeX
can produce PS with dvips.

I recommend LaTeX for all users, especially university based users who
are going to produce thesis/technical docs.

Anyway, just a thought. Setting up lpd is documented in the Handbook
of course.

If your printer can't speak Postscript then you have to use
Ghostscript and something like apsfilter with lpd.


Regards,

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Re: Plextor PX-870A drives

2010-09-17 Thread Joshua Isom

On 9/17/2010 7:24 AM, Robert Ames wrote:


It claims to be able to play audio CDs.



There's two things I can think of.  With cdcontrol on a cd-rw drive I 
have, it needs the cd audio cable hooked up from the drive to the 
motherboard or else it's silent.  My dvd-rw drive doesn't have that port 
but I haven't tested audio cd's in it.  It's possible the does play 
audio cd's is about reading the format rather than playing, and I 
believe cdcontrol tells the drive to play instead of the OS playing it. 
 You could try another media player to see if it'll play the disc or if 
you can rip the tracks off.

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Re: Plextor PX-870A drives

2010-09-17 Thread Ryan Coleman

On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Joshua Isom wrote:

 On 9/17/2010 7:24 AM, Robert Ames wrote:
 
 It claims to be able to play audio CDs.
 
 
 There's two things I can think of.  With cdcontrol on a cd-rw drive I have, 
 it needs the cd audio cable hooked up from the drive to the motherboard or 
 else it's silent.  My dvd-rw drive doesn't have that port but I haven't 
 tested audio cd's in it.  It's possible the does play audio cd's is about 
 reading the format rather than playing, and I believe cdcontrol tells the 
 drive to play instead of the OS playing it.  You could try another media 
 player to see if it'll play the disc or if you can rip the tracks off.

So you should plug headphones into the front?


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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-17 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Frank Shute wrote:

I'm not going to tell you how to print with CUPS as it's too
complicated and fragile for my liking.


Agreed.


Have you thought about using lpd(8)? If your printer can understand
Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly
simple process as you just send the raw PS to the printer with lpr(1)
via a spool and filter.

My filter:

#!/bin/sh

cat -
echo \f

#


That might not even be necessary; it just adds a formfeed to the job, 
which PostScript doesn't need.  Helps with some PCL jobs, and PS 
printers usually do PCL also.



and my printcap(5) isn't overly complicated either and the format is
well documented in it's manpage.


My lpd doc is an attempt to put everything about lpd in one place, with 
simple but complete examples:


http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html
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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-17 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:10:56 +0100, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
 I'm not going to tell you how to print with CUPS as it's too
 complicated and fragile for my liking.

If you have a printer that understands at least SOME standards,
maybe you want to look at apsfilter instead of CUPS; apsfilter
is a lightweight, but still powerful collection of printer filters
that supports many standards.



 Have you thought about using lpd(8)? If your printer can understand
 Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly
 simple process as you just send the raw PS to the printer with lpr(1)
 via a spool and filter.

If the printer can understand PCL, as many HP Laserjet products do
(at least the professional ones from office class product lines),
you can also use apsfilter for that. In this case, it's even to be
considered an overhead as apsfilter uses gs (ghostscript) to turn
the PS input into PCL. A short read of man gs should give you all
you need to know about how to use PCL for your printer.

Oh, and professional office-class printers usually are networked
printers, so no need to mess with silly USB. :-)



 Most Unix applications can produce Postscript or PDF (which can be
 converted to PS with ps2pdf which comes with Ghostscript) and LaTeX
 can produce PS with dvips.

Postscript is *the* default output format for printing in UNIX in
general, as well as in X.

For LaTeX, there's pdflatex to produce PDF output directly, a very
useful tool for automated document production and printing. (Yes,
you don't need Acrobat Reader to print PDF files, you can just
use lpr *.pdf to get a stack of PDF files printed without any
further interaction.)



 I recommend LaTeX for all users, especially university based users who
 are going to produce thesis/technical docs.

Absolutely.



 If your printer can't speak Postscript then you have to use
 Ghostscript and something like apsfilter with lpd.

As I mentioned. Sadly, there nowadays is a whole bunch of printing
stuff, obsoleting one unified system that is to be used for printing.
What comes to my mind? Of course CUPS, hpijs, Gutenprint, Foomatic,
Gimp-print, several deamons and datafiles... what a mess - it's almost
like WIndows. Sorry.

I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that
does support ALL printers, and that does not force the user to
search the web (bah!) for some arbitrary binary files. Of course,
that's what printer manufacturers seem to want: Incompatible,
non-standard and complicated crap, requiring bloated software to
run. That's not how UNIX experience should be.

My take: Whenever possible, get a professional printer. Think BEFORE
you buy it. Even used (!) office-class hardware is acceptable.



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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-17 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 06:10:56PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 01:45:54AM +0100, Chabane HEMDANI wrote:
 
   I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I'm
  using FreeBSD since 2007 when I discover it by chance when searching in
  the Web something about Linux.
   Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to install
  and use this magical and my favorite system.
  
  However, all my students retort me that they have a problem of installing
  their printers. I have so this problem, so I can't tell good-bye
  definitively to winosor and Linux. I always need them for printing.
  
  I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the
  web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups without
  any success. I've  an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by package
  print/hplip don't work correctly.

According to http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1018 it is
best to use the foo2zjs driver: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ But it only works in
black and white.

  Please where is the problem?

Printers these days are by-and-large built for MS windoze, without much
thought for other operating systems. So they tend to use unpublished
communications protocols or only work with the driver that works on windoze.

When shopping for a printer, preferably look for one that understands the
PostScript page description language. Those will work in FreeBSD and Linux
without problems. These tend to be more high-end models, and may be more
expensive when new. Secondhand they are probably more affordable, especially
for students!

If that is not an option, try for a printer that is supported by ghostscript
(the print/ghostscript8 port) You can see the printers it supports by running
'make config' in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8. Printers that use the PCL (HP)
or ESC/P (epson) printing protocols should work without problems.

Alternatively look for a printer that is supported by the gutenprint driver;
http://www.openprinting.org/driver/gutenprint/

When you are thinking about buying a certain model of printer, _always_ check
the openprinting database to see if it will work _before_ buying it:
http://www.openprinting.org/printers

 Postscript (and I believe HP Laserjets can) then this can be a fairly

Some do, particularly high-end models. Most consumer-oriented stuff does not.

Hope this helps!

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Re: (no subject)

2010-09-17 Thread Modulok
 I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine.
 Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three
 PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that
 will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just
 something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then
 I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using
 something worth a recommendation?

There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE connector
and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug.

This is news to me.  I now have two on the way :)

Thank you!
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Re: Plextor PX-870A drives

2010-09-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz writes:

 On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Joshua Isom wrote:

 On 9/17/2010 7:24 AM, Robert Ames wrote:
 
 It claims to be able to play audio CDs.
 
 
 There's two things I can think of.  With cdcontrol on a cd-rw drive I have, 
 it needs the cd audio cable hooked up from the drive to the motherboard or 
 else it's silent.  My dvd-rw drive doesn't have that port but I haven't 
 tested audio cd's in it.  It's possible the does play audio cd's is about 
 reading the format rather than playing, and I believe cdcontrol tells the 
 drive to play instead of the OS playing it.  You could try another media 
 player to see if it'll play the disc or if you can rip the tracks off.

 So you should plug headphones into the front?

If there's a headphone jack on the front of the *drive*, then yes, that
will probably work.

What was intended, though, was probably to suggest that instead of
cdcontrol(1), you install and try a cd playing program that supports
digital extraction.  Most programs in ports/audio that can play CDs 
at all will be able to handle this.
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Can I compile sendmail simply through the ports collection?

2010-09-17 Thread Aflatoon Aflatooni
Hi,
I was wondering if I can simply recompile sendmail from the ports collection 
for 
FreeBSD 7.1 server.
I need to recompile the sendmail on the server to add Cyrus SASL2 support. The 
instructions on FreeBSD point to src /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail which doesn't 
exist and I was wondering if I could simply recompile using the ports 
collection.

Here is the instructions about compiling the Cyrus sasl2 support:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/smtp-auth.html

Thanks


  
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Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer

2010-09-17 Thread perryh
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 I would like to have ONE thing that is used for printing, and that
 does support ALL printers ...

Isn't that exactly what CUPS is supposed to be?
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Re: Can I compile sendmail simply through the ports collection?

2010-09-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 17/09/2010 22:36:07, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote:
 Hi,
 I was wondering if I can simply recompile sendmail from the ports collection 
 for 
 FreeBSD 7.1 server.
 I need to recompile the sendmail on the server to add Cyrus SASL2 support. 
 The 
 instructions on FreeBSD point to src /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail which doesn't 
 exist and I was wondering if I could simply recompile using the ports 
 collection.

Yes.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: (no subject)

2010-09-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 17 September 2010 17:45:40 Modulok wrote:
  I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine.
  Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three
  PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that
  will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just
  something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then
  I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using
  something worth a recommendation?
 
 There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE
 connector
 
 and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug.
 
 This is news to me.  I now have two on the way :)
 
 Thank you!
 -Modulok-

You're welcome ! 

Let me know if you need any info on the one I have.

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Re: why is the PHP stuff line off by default in ports/lang/php5?

2010-09-17 Thread patrick
I don't for sure, but I'd say it's off by default because not everyone
runs PHP with Apache, and mod_php5/libphp5.so is strictly for Apache.
Lots of people use PHP with FastCGI or other purposes.

If you always want it to be on, add the option to /etc/make.conf. Or,
if you're using portupgrade or some other port management utility for
upgrades, there are ways to set the default options for the ports you
use.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I'll go out on a limb here and say that it's
generally considered good practice to test software after upgrading --
particularly if it's a web server running websites. Another thing to
consider would be running something like Nagios to monitor your
systems/sites to make sure things are working properly.

Patrick


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 Guys,

 Tell me if I'm wrong to be ticked off.  I just learned that my website
 has been down for weeks.  My KVM switch doesn't work to let me have
 control of the console of my server [ns1|ethic].thought.org.  Whether
 it was a cheap KVM switch or whether the '09 Dell 550 is defective is
 unknown.  I have a new KVM switch.  I do need direct control of the
 console for many reasons, but mostly to portupgrad ports.

 In the months since I first got ethic working, everything _but_ X11
 worked.  In late August I upgraded apache and php5, rebooted, and
 just-assumed {TM} that apache22 was working.  Weeks ago I did read and
 edit my non-blog blog; further reason to assume that everything worked.

 A couple hours ago my web server was not running.  I traced it to a
 missing libphp5.so.  I checked the makefile and found the php stuff
 defaults to off. ...I am thinking this is a security risk, but most
 of us are reasonably sophisticated about such things 

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Anyone familiar with authsmtp service and Sendmail.

2010-09-17 Thread Aflatoon Aflatooni
I am trying to configure my sendmail to send out the emails generated locally 
on 
the server using the authsmtp service. 

But all their documentations and all my tweaking has been completely useless.

I get the following errors in the log:

Sep 18 00:03:25 zara sm-mta[58380]: STARTTLS=client, relay=mail.authsmtp.com., 
version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256
Sep 18 00:03:35 zara sm-mta[58380]: o8I43OdE058378: to=aaflat...@yahoo.com, 
delay=00:00:11, xdelay=00:00:11, mailer=relay, pri=30260, 
relay=mail.authsmtp.com. [62.13.128.188], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable


Here is the content of my freebsd.mc

divert(0)
VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc,v 1.34.2.3.4.1 2009/04/15 
03:14:26 kensmith Exp $')
OSTYPE(freebsd6)
DOMAIN(generic)

FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -TTMPF /etc/mail/access')
FEATURE(blacklist_recipients)
FEATURE(local_lmtp)
FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable')
FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')

define(`SMART_HOST', `[mail.authsmtp.com]')dnl
dnl FEATURE(`authinfo')dnl
define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 25')dnl

define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/local-host-names')

dnl Enable for both IPv4 and IPv6 (optional)
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet')
dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O')

define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBroken')
define(`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `add-to-undisclosed')
define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy')
MAILER(local)
MAILER(smtp)
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl


Please help as I am going crazy I just can't get it to work!

Thanks



  
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Re: sysinstall vs gmirror

2010-09-17 Thread perryh
Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:14 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
  The part I don't know how to do is partitioning gm0 by hand.
  (I suppose it would require some sort of arcane incantations
  involving bsdlabel.)  For all its limitations, sysinstall
  seems at least to know how to translate a reasonably human-
  readable representation of the desired slice and partition
  layout into the necessary fdisk and bsdlabel commands.

 I don't know of any exact howto, but the general principles are
 laid out here:

 http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror

I finally had time to (try to) read through that, and I'm having
trouble locating a description of how to partition a gmirror.
(The page seems oriented almost entirely to ZFS and gpart, the
only mention of gmirror being in connection with swap.)  I'm quite
sure I don't want to attempt ZFS on a machine with only 512MB, and
I'm not at all sure that a BIOS of this age would understand gpart.

 It shows how to load geom modules from usb stick

I had already figured out that part :)

  Fixit# ln -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot
  Fixit# gmirror load

which is all I think I need until I get the mirror partitioned.

 Next fdisk/gpart accordingly (don't forget to make it bootable).

This is where I get stuck.  I've partitioned the physical drives
using sysinstall, but how do I go about partitioning gm0?

 If your setup if GPT compatible, I recommend using it.

How do I find out whether this setup is GPT compatible?

 IMO, it's significantly more straightforward than the old
 mbr style.

I sure did not get that impression from reading gpart(8) :(

For starters there seem to be at least 6 kernel options, of
which I guess I may need 3: GEOM_PART_BSD, GEOM_PART_GPT, and
GEOM_PART_MBR; there's apparently no edit function; and one
has to puzzle out what is meant by a protective MBR as part
of understanding how to make a GPT partition bootable.
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Re: sysinstall vs gmirror

2010-09-17 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:09 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

  Next fdisk/gpart accordingly (don't forget to make it bootable).

 This is where I get stuck.  I've partitioned the physical drives
 using sysinstall, but how do I go about partitioning gm0?


Your problem is that you are still using sysinstall.  You can't for your
purposes(this was pointed out earlier).  Fixit only!  Notice in the example
it creates some basic filesystems/diretories and then chroot's and extracts
the dist's manually.  You must do the same after you do the gmirror/gjournal
setup to your liking and have created the appropriate fs's and mounted them.



  If your setup if GPT compatible, I recommend using it.

 How do I find out whether this setup is GPT compatible?


Hardware(BIOS) dependent.


 For starters there seem to be at least 6 kernel options, of
 which I guess I may need 3: GEOM_PART_BSD, GEOM_PART_GPT, and
 GEOM_PART_MBR; there's apparently no edit function; and one
 has to puzzle out what is meant by a protective MBR as part
 of understanding how to make a GPT partition bootable.


Yeah, there is no label editor or resize functionality, yet anyway.  You
don't need to worry about any of those kernel options yet, just get it
working by loading from loader.conf.  You can customize your kernel later.
I think the protective MBR part relates to GPT/MBR hybrid style which is
not what I think you should do, but maybe it works haven't tried it.

You'll use gpart to create(and label) at least 3 parttitions, the boot,
swap, and freebsd-ufs filesystem.  You'll have to create more if you want
seperate /usr /var /tmp etc.  Once the fs's are created and mounted,
extract, edit the /boot/loader.conf in the chroot to load gmirror, gjournal,
and anything else you need,
Note about the bootloader part, use gpart to install the boot code to the
boot partition you create, I don't think you'll need to do anything special
other than that.

This example may also be helpful because it deals with GPT/UFS manual
install, but doesn't use any other geom classes.

http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/UFSBoot


-- 
Adam Vande More
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