Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:06:55AM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > What would you have me do -- beat a live horse? I'm not inclined to > > subject a living creature to such cruelty. > > Is beating a dead horse no more cruel? Do dead hors

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Liontaur
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat: > > M$ vs Novell > "Unix" vs "Linux" > Mainframe vs "PC" > DAS vs SAN > Top-posting vs Bottom posting > Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada I was just thinking about how much better vi is compa

Re: Error 1: gpart create -s GPT ad0

2010-11-12 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:09:30 -0500 Kris Moore пишет: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 08:47:00PM +0200, Ivan Klymenko wrote: > > Hello! People. > > > > I use the alternate installer pc-sysinstall based on FreeBSD > > 9.0-CURRENT r215176 > > When you load the virtual machine qemu disk ad0 is determined b

Re: Error 1: gpart create -s GPT ad0

2010-11-12 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Sat, 13 Nov 2010 08:45:02 +0300 "Andrey V. Elsukov" пишет: > On 12.11.2010 21:47, Ivan Klymenko wrote: > > I use the alternate installer pc-sysinstall based on FreeBSD > > 9.0-CURRENT r215176 > > Hmm, are you sure that your kernel is based on r215176? > no doubt! :) _

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:08:02 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: > It's part of my signature it's not like I am spamming *just* my > sig to the list. > > Did you know... > If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, > > but what's worse is when you play it forward >

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Ryan Coleman
On Nov 13, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > >> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500 >> Chris Brennan wrote: >> >>> Did you know... >>> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, >>> but what's worse is when yo

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500 > Chris Brennan wrote: > > > Did you know... > > If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, > > but what's worse is when you play it forward > >

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 06:44:01PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: > > > > I think it's safe to say that either a) Mr. Silveira has unsubscribed > from > > the list or b) learned to keep his mouth shut and scampered off into the > > dark to learn

Re: Error 1: gpart create -s GPT ad0

2010-11-12 Thread Andrey V. Elsukov
On 12.11.2010 21:47, Ivan Klymenko wrote: > http://img80.imageshack.us/i/qemu.png/ > Think all options for gpart are correct - what can there be a problem? This was temporary regression and it is fixed now in r215118. In any case it is harmless. -- WBR, Andrey V. Elsukov signature.asc Descrip

Re: Error 1: gpart create -s GPT ad0

2010-11-12 Thread Andrey V. Elsukov
On 12.11.2010 21:47, Ivan Klymenko wrote: > I use the alternate installer pc-sysinstall based on FreeBSD > 9.0-CURRENT r215176 Hmm, are you sure that your kernel is based on r215176? -- WBR, Andrey V. Elsukov signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Error 1: gpart create -s GPT ad0

2010-11-12 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Kris Moore wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 08:47:00PM +0200, Ivan Klymenko wrote: >> Hello! People. >> >> I use the alternate installer pc-sysinstall based on FreeBSD >> 9.0-CURRENT r215176 >> When you load the virtual machine qemu disk ad0 is determined by: >> ht

Re: Error 1: gpart create -s GPT ad0

2010-11-12 Thread Kris Moore
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 08:47:00PM +0200, Ivan Klymenko wrote: > Hello! People. > > I use the alternate installer pc-sysinstall based on FreeBSD > 9.0-CURRENT r215176 > When you load the virtual machine qemu disk ad0 is determined by: > http://img573.imageshack.us/i/qemu1.png/ > but when trying to

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Mubeesh ali
i guess it is high time this list bans the word devil in subject ;-) On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500 > Chris Brennan wrote: > >> Did you know... >> If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, >> but what's worse is

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:08:51 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: > Did you know... > If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, > but what's worse is when you play it forward > ...it installs Windows 2000 Yes, I think we know that by now.

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 06:44:01PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: > > I think it's safe to say that either a) Mr. Silveira has unsubscribed from > the list or b) learned to keep his mouth shut and scampered off into the > dark to learn the proper netiquette of this list. Must we continue to beat > th

Re[2]: How to obtain what swi1:net is doing?

2010-11-12 Thread Коньков Евгений
Здравствуйте, Ivan. Вы писали 12 ноября 2010 г., 1:33:14: IV> On 11/11/10 20:20, Коньков Евгений wrote: >> Hi, all IV> "How to obtain what swi1:net is doing?" IV> The short answer is: depending on what your network card is, it could be IV> everything related to TCP/IP-level processing. IV> In

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:47:40 PST Randal L. Schwartz wrote: "Charlie" == Charlie Kester writes: Charlie> OK, I'll play: Charlie> Gnome vs KDE Charlie> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's) Charlie> GPL vs BSDL Charlie> C vs any other programming language Perl vs Readability Coming from you, Randal

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:47:40 -0800, mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > > "Charlie" == Charlie Kester writes: > > Charlie> OK, I'll play: > > Charlie> Gnome vs KDE > Charlie> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's) > Charlie> GPL vs BSDL > Charlie> C vs any other programming language >

Re: ssh authentication error

2010-11-12 Thread Robert Huff
Chris Brennan writes: > > Check perms on /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys > > chmod 640 or 600, not 644 > > That's the permissions of my authorized_keys, I believe that's 0600, some > systems require a much more restrictive 0400 octal. > > -rwxr--r-- 1 chris chris 622B Jun 28 21:36 a

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Charlie" == Charlie Kester writes: Charlie> OK, I'll play: Charlie> Gnome vs KDE Charlie> Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's) Charlie> GPL vs BSDL Charlie> C vs any other programming language Perl vs Readability :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 00

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Gary Gatten
Dude, MicroFocus COBOL is WAY better than any flavor of "C"! C is an indication of average, 70%! Why didn't they call it "A"? And yes, I'm joking about MicroFC vs C. I'm not a developer so afaik assembly is the best! All I do know is nothing is worse than Java. Not sure where that went wron

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread David Brodbeck
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > On 2010/11/12 at 10:33, rfar...@predatorlabs.net (Rob Farmer) wrote: >> it is better for real/serious work, but the general public doesn't see >> it as new or valuable - its just a stupid change in the way everything >> has always been do

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:05:33 PST Gary Gatten wrote: Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat: M$ vs Novell "Unix" vs "Linux" Mainframe vs "PC" DAS vs SAN Top-posting vs Bottom posting Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada OK, I'll play: Gnome vs KDE Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's) GPL vs BS

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:57:46 -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote: > >Must we continue to beat this already dead horse? > > Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally > dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate. Why "vs"? It's "an

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Gary Gatten
Bottom posting is a HUGE PITA on mobile devices, which I use a LOT. But, if top posting is the rule and the accepted way, then I GUESS I'll make more effort to avoid top posting. Maybe a new years resolution? From: Chris Brennan To: Gary Gatten Cc: corky1...@com

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat: > > M$ vs Novell > "Unix" vs "Linux" > Mainframe vs "PC" > DAS vs SAN > Top-posting vs Bottom posting > Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada > > How ironic, I was just having this debate w/ a frien

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote: > >> Must we continue to beat this already dead horse? >> > > Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally > dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate. > > But that has tu

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Gary Gatten
Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat: M$ vs Novell "Unix" vs "Linux" Mainframe vs "PC" DAS vs SAN Top-posting vs Bottom posting Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Fri Nov 12

Re: glibc-2.4

2010-11-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > Chris Brennan wrote: > > > I've got a freebsd7.3 box running on an old VAIO PIII. For the most part > > Ziggy chugs along quite well as my backup internal webserver and dns > > slave. > > > > uname -a -> FreeBSD ziggy.xaerolimit.net 7.3-RELE

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote: Must we continue to beat this already dead horse? Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Charlie Kester
Since this discussion refuses to die, I hope the participants will heed my suggestion and collect the results on a webpage somewhere so we don't have to go over it all many times again in the future. So far, I haven't seen anything said that wasn't already said five, ten, fifteen or even twenty y

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:38:10PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > You would have starved before now if other people had your attitude. > > Not at all. > > It does indeed involve indulging others to do what you described. There > is no

Re: glibc-2.4

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Powell
Chris Brennan wrote: > I've got a freebsd7.3 box running on an old VAIO PIII. For the most part > Ziggy chugs along quite well as my backup internal webserver and dns > slave. > > uname -a -> FreeBSD ziggy.xaerolimit.net 7.3-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD > 7.3-RELEASE-p3 #8: Sun Oct 24 01:53:03 EDT 2010 > r

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:38:10PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > You would have starved before now if other people had your attitude. Not at all. It does indeed involve indulging others to do what you described. There is nothing necessarily wrong with that, but "indulgent" is exactly what

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
José Silveira writes: > Why do you use a devil as a mascot? > > For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! Well, i don't think devil is bad thing. What do you think of? Sincerely, -- 소여물 황병희(黃炳熙) | .. 출항 15분전.. $GR: projects/mp3/the-godfather,v 1.39 2008/08/1

Re: ssh authentication error

2010-11-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:58 PM, xSAPPYx wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:06, Jerrin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On a mac system i generated the key using ssh-keygen -t dsa and copied > > .ssh/id_dsa.pub to /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys on a Freebsd server, > but > > it prompts for the password

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:43:23 -0500 Alejandro Imass articulated: > And in almost all these places there are links to the netiquette, > recommendations on how to search before you post and tons of > information on how to correctly interact with these mailing lists. Which are virtually never used.

Re: ssh authentication error

2010-11-12 Thread xSAPPYx
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:06, Jerrin wrote: > Hi, > >  On a mac system i generated the key using ssh-keygen -t dsa and copied > .ssh/id_dsa.pub to /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys on a Freebsd server, but > it prompts for the password Check perms on /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys chmod 640 or 60

Fwd: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Neal Hogan
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Tom Worster wrote: >> On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister" wrote: >> >>>Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for >>>the first time probably each day.    Some of them will hav

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:15:37PM -0500, Tom Worster wrote: > >> On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister" wrote: >> [...] > You expect a newbie to know it all. > That is inconsiderate and lazy. > You started somewhere, so does everyone e

glibc-2.4

2010-11-12 Thread Chris Brennan
I've got a freebsd7.3 box running on an old VAIO PIII. For the most part Ziggy chugs along quite well as my backup internal webserver and dns slave. uname -a -> FreeBSD ziggy.xaerolimit.net 7.3-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p3 #8: Sun Oct 24 01:53:03 EDT 2010 r...@ziggy.xaerolimit.net:/usr/obj/us

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister" wrote: > >>Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for >>the first time probably each day.    Some of them will have the same >>mistaken idea since the misunderstanding of it is

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:15:37PM -0500, Tom Worster wrote: > On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister" wrote: > > >Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for > >the first time probably each day.Some of them will have the same > >mistaken idea since the misunderstand

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Tom Worster
On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, "Jerry McAllister" wrote: >Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for >the first time probably each day.Some of them will have the same >mistaken idea since the misunderstanding of it is implanted in people's >heads from an early age.Although

Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-12 Thread doug
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, d...@safeport.com wrote: Thanks. The [latest] BIOS has one VGA option: Video DAC Snoop Controls how VGA and graphics devices on the PCI or AGP bus respond to palette register accesses. * On - forces VGA and graphics device

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:24:09 -0900 Peter A. Giessel articulated: > It depends on what you mean by "real serious work". Try > ordering a > cubic meter of concrete or a #25 rebar in the U.S. and see how > far you > get. Seriously, does everyone in this tread suffer from ADHD (Attention deficit

Re: uzbl

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 12 November 2010: > On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 01:54:32PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > How do you start uzbl? It installed fine for me, but I keep getting core > > dumps when I run it. There is no 'uzbl' anywhere in the path, so I tried > > 'uzbl-browser' and 'uzbl

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 12 November 2010: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:33:38AM -0800, Rob Farmer wrote: > > > > To use a US example, you see the same thing with the SI/metric system. > > Scientists and other technical people use it almost universally > > without issue (except for some odditie

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2010/11/12 at 10:33, rfar...@predatorlabs.net (Rob Farmer) wrote: Scientists and other technical people use it almost universally without issue (except for some oddities, PSI is somewhat popular) Would you consider engineers "technical people"? One example would be the American Association

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:47:32 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > This sounds a bit like a common problem with people thinking that > Unix-like OSes are not "user friendly" because they're "hard" to install, > a frequent protestations of people who like MS Windows because it comes > already installed on th

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:33:38AM -0800, Rob Farmer wrote: > > To use a US example, you see the same thing with the SI/metric system. > Scientists and other technical people use it almost universally > without issue (except for some oddities, PSI is somewhat popular) - it > is better for real/ser

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:33:38 -0800, Rob Farmer wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:06, Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:21:51 -0800, Rob Farmer > > wrote: > >> I'm not saying the CLI is universally bad - if you gain competence > >> with a set of programs that you use frequently, it

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:49:51PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > The primary REFUSE to use the keyboard because the mouse EXISTS > prevents lazy users even from READING that 3x5 card. They are > often not WILLING to follow instructions, no matter how simple > (or even idiotic, sorry) they may be. I

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 07:26:17PM -0600, Neal Hogan wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > > PLEASE let's not rehash this again!!! > > > > I'm only sending the link to the haloed (sp?) daemon now because I > wish I had last time but f'd it up. > I'm done now . . . I just

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Rob Farmer
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:06, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:21:51 -0800, Rob Farmer > wrote: >> I'm not saying the CLI is universally bad - if you gain competence >> with a set of programs that you use frequently, it can be very >> efficient. It does make it hard to enter a new are

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 09:36:29PM -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: José Silveira > > Date: 2010/11/11 > > Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? > > To: Neal Hogan > > > > > > What

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:35:51PM +0100, Michael Grünewald wrote: > > But in my opinion, a complete GUI software should also provide some > command line facilities. I mean, for instance, a word processing > software could be shipped with command line tools that could be used to > * inspect do

Re: Can't Detect REALTEK ethernet card

2010-11-12 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Luki Bangun Subekti wrote: Hi.. I'm just study about networking using freeBSD.. I installed freeBSD in virtual machine, VMware Workstation. When I set network configuration, in interfaces option, I can't see Realtek PCI ethernet card. I just see Intel ethernet card and PPP.

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:23:22 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > The type of program I specifically meant was the sort of thing that > actually tells the user the command that would perform the same task as > the button-click, so that users of the GUI (or captive interface TUI) > would get to see what is

Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-12 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, d...@safeport.com wrote: Thanks. The [latest] BIOS has one VGA option: Video DAC Snoop Controls how VGA and graphics devices on the PCI or AGP bus respond to palette register accesses. * On - forces VGA and graphics devices to snoop VGA palette register

Re: mergemaster comparing everything.

2010-11-12 Thread Rob Farmer
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:04, Leon Meßner wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:40:01AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Leon Me?ner wrote: >> >> > is there a trick besides using the rcs funktion of mergemaster to get >> > around having to look at every file in /etc for comparison

Re: mergemaster comparing everything.

2010-11-12 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Leon Me?ner wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:40:01AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Leon Me?ner wrote: is there a trick besides using the rcs funktion of mergemaster to get around having to look at every file in /etc for comparison? I know there once was

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:21:51 -0800, Rob Farmer wrote: > I'm not saying the CLI is universally bad - if you gain competence > with a set of programs that you use frequently, it can be very > efficient. It does make it hard to enter a new area, though - you've > got to learn some before you can do a

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:25:51 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > It's too bad such APIs require so much more knowledge, and present so > much more of a barrier to entry for automating tasks, than a simpler CLI > filter's interface provides via something like the Unix pipeline. Any GUI is limited to the u

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:19:34 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > In fact, a set of CLI filters linked together by the Unix > pipeline (or even a DOS pipeline, at least in theory) is essentially > infinitely extensible to provide surprising levels of automation > customizability that might astonish the ear

Error 1: gpart create -s GPT ad0

2010-11-12 Thread Ivan Klymenko
Hello! People. I use the alternate installer pc-sysinstall based on FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r215176 When you load the virtual machine qemu disk ad0 is determined by: http://img573.imageshack.us/i/qemu1.png/ but when trying to create a section displays the following error: http://img80.imageshack.us/i/

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Grünewald
Hello Rob, Rob Farmer wrote: Most general computer users will never give up the GUI, because it involves investing in computer skills and they don't see that as terribly worthwhile - they just want to get started on their work. I think some UNIX fans are reluctant to accept this, and in doing so

Can't Detect REALTEK ethernet card

2010-11-12 Thread Luki Bangun Subekti
Hi.. I'm just study about networking using freeBSD.. I installed freeBSD in virtual machine, VMware Workstation. When I set network configuration, in interfaces option, I can't see Realtek PCI ethernet card. I just see Intel ethernet card and PPP. I'm using internet by LAN in my home. DHCP also can

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 07:14:38PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:49:26 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > I agree. That is one type of GUI I would really love to see getting more > > popular. > > You can already find this concept in use: The Midnight Commander, > allthough a

Re: uzbl

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 01:54:32PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > > How do you start uzbl? It installed fine for me, but I keep getting core > dumps when I run it. There is no 'uzbl' anywhere in the path, so I tried > 'uzbl-browser' and 'uzbl-tabbed'. For 'uzbl-browser' it brings up the > initial

Re: How do we like our base kerberos? Will it flee soon?

2010-11-12 Thread Leon Meßner
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 06:03:33PM +0100, Joerg Pulz wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Leon Meßner wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 04:22:57PM +0100, Joerg Pulz wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Leon Meßner wrote: > > Did exactly as told and everything worked fine. Im currently in the > > process o

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:54:57AM -0800, Rob Farmer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 23:16, Chad Perrin wrote: > > It sounds like in some respects we're violently agreeing with each other. > > On one hand, I think that CLI programs can be great for frequent tasks, > > especially if you have somet

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:49:26 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:21:01AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Polytropon wrote: > > > > > The STRENGTH OF GUI (yes, I'm really saying that) is to aid > > > using language elements, CLI. Arranging windows, presenting > > > info

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Rob Farmer
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 23:16, Chad Perrin wrote: > It sounds like in some respects we're violently agreeing with each other. > On one hand, I think that CLI programs can be great for frequent tasks, > especially if you have something like the Unix pipeline at your disposal > to automate complex t

Re: mergemaster comparing everything.

2010-11-12 Thread Leon Meßner
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:40:01AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Leon Me?ner wrote: > > > is there a trick besides using the rcs funktion of mergemaster to get > > around having to look at every file in /etc for comparison? > > I know there once was a bug in mergemaster but it'

Re: How do we like our base kerberos? Will it flee soon?

2010-11-12 Thread Joerg Pulz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Leon Meßner wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 04:22:57PM +0100, Joerg Pulz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Leon Meßner wrote: Hi, What i didn't try: - Use the port. please take a

Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-12 Thread doug
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Fbsd8 wrote: doug wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, doug wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST) d...@safeport.com articulated: When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use t

Re: mergemaster comparing everything.

2010-11-12 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Leon Me?ner wrote: is there a trick besides using the rcs funktion of mergemaster to get around having to look at every file in /etc for comparison? I know there once was a bug in mergemaster but it's closed for a long time now. ... 90% of the differences are just in this

Re: How do we like our base kerberos? Will it flee soon?

2010-11-12 Thread Leon Meßner
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 04:22:57PM +0100, Joerg Pulz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Leon Meßner wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > What i didn't try: > > > > - Use the port. > > > please take a look at ports/152030 and the patches i mentioned in the PR.

Re: Fwd: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 11 November 2010: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: José Silveira > Date: 2010/11/11 > Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? > To: Neal Hogan > > > What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me > this crap! I hope

Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-12 Thread Fbsd8
doug wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, doug wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST) d...@safeport.com articulated: When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to my D

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Dave Robison on Thursday, 11 November 2010: > On 11/11/10 15:39, José Silveira wrote: > >Why do you use a devil as a mascot? > > > >For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! > > > >José Silveira > >___ > >freebsd-qu

mergemaster comparing everything.

2010-11-12 Thread Leon Meßner
Hi, is there a trick besides using the rcs funktion of mergemaster to get around having to look at every file in /etc for comparison? I know there once was a bug in mergemaster but it's closed for a long time now. Example: *** Displaying differences between ./etc/periodic/daily/300.calendar an

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 11 November 2010: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 06:09:15PM +, Bruce Cran wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:57:17 -0800 > > Chip Camden wrote: > > > > > However, for automating repeated tasks (as distinguished from running > > > automated tests of the GUI itself), sc

Re: You complain about my exceeded question but got an outstanding volume of answers!!! Why?

2010-11-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) < svein-listm...@stillbilde.net> wrote: > On 12.11.2010 13:24, José Silveira wrote: > > You guys complain cause I asked why do use a demon as a mascot of > freeeBSD. > > Some says... oh no this crap again, others desrespected me but

Re: You complain about my exceeded question but got an outstanding volume of answers!!! Why?

2010-11-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington
2010/11/12 José Silveira > What...was...that...crap So many words for saying nothing! I will > never use freeBSD, one of the reasons is you. > > FreeBSD is FREE. How much do you suppose we lose if one person with a stupid attitude refuses to use it? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON,

Re: You complain about my exceeded question but got an outstanding volume of answers!!! Why?

2010-11-12 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 12.11.2010 13:24, José Silveira wrote: > You guys complain cause I asked why do use a demon as a mascot of freeeBSD. > Some says... oh no this crap again, others desrespected me but what is > incredible is that even a simple question like I did caused so many rage and > movement of answers!!! I

FreeBSD crashed - trying to find out why

2010-11-12 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Hello, I have a FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE machine running inside a KVM VPS. I installed tmux a few days back, and today I was trying to update all my ports via portupgrade. Everything was going fine, so after a while I detached from the tmux session and disconnected from the machine (was connected via

Re: You complain about my exceeded question but got an outstanding volume of answers!!! Why?

2010-11-12 Thread Antonio Olivares
2010/11/12 Odhiambo Washington : > 2010/11/12 José Silveira > >> You guys complain cause I asked why do use a demon as a mascot of freeeBSD. >> Some says... oh no this crap again, others desrespected me but what is >> incredible is that even a simple question like I did caused so many rage >> and

Re: You complain about my exceeded question but got an outstanding volume of answers!!! Why?

2010-11-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington
2010/11/12 José Silveira > You guys complain cause I asked why do use a demon as a mascot of freeeBSD. > Some says... oh no this crap again, others desrespected me but what is > incredible is that even a simple question like I did caused so many rage > and > movement of answers!!! I think this th

Re: You complain about my exceeded question but got an outstanding volume of answers!!! Why?

2010-11-12 Thread Indexer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/11/2010, at 22:54, José Silveira wrote: > You guys complain cause I asked why do use a demon as a mascot of freeeBSD. > Some says... oh no this crap again, others desrespected me but what is > incredible is that even a simple question like I di

You complain about my exceeded question but got an outstanding volume of answers!!! Why?

2010-11-12 Thread José Silveira
You guys complain cause I asked why do use a demon as a mascot of freeeBSD. Some says... oh no this crap again, others desrespected me but what is incredible is that even a simple question like I did caused so many rage and movement of answers!!! I think this theme still alived... I got thousands o

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > He was forwarding and José top-posted on a private response. > > And I will top-post til the day I die. > > :) > I'm sorry Neal my bad, I wasn't in a joke mood and didn't realize the fwd. It's just that this devil religious crap really got to

Re: FTP like web app

2010-11-12 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 10/18/10 21:45, Andrea Venturoli wrote: Hello. Sorry if this is a bit OT, but I'm looking for an app that should: _ replace an ftp server; _ have a web interface; _ run on FreeBSD; _ let one of my users upload some file and send a link to someone else; _ let that someone else download that fil

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 12/11/2010 09:38, Ross Cameron wrote: > 2010/11/12 José Silveira > >> Why do you use a devil as a mascot? >> >> For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! > > > Because we don't want narrow minded, religious bigots clogging up the > mailing lists like this on

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:38:19AM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: > 2010/11/12 Jos?? Silveira > > > Why do you use a devil as a mascot? > > > > For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! who are the Muslins and Jwishes anyway? Some form of Martin life? I've never he

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Ross Cameron
2010/11/12 José Silveira > Why do you use a devil as a mascot? > > For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! Because we don't want narrow minded, religious bigots clogging up the mailing lists like this one. ___ freeb

Re: Routing issue?

2010-11-12 Thread Ryan Coleman
As mentioned before, this is already solved. On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:08 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 U >> lo0 >> >> ifconfig_em0="inet 70.89.123.5 netmask 255.255.255.248" >> ifconfig_em1="inet 70.89.123.4 netmask 255.25

Re: Routing issue?

2010-11-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 ifconfig_em0="inet 70.89.123.5 netmask 255.255.255.248" ifconfig_em1="inet 70.89.123.4 netmask 255.255.255.248" defaultrouter="70.89.123.6" hostname="se**.somehtingelse.biz" I tried to add the gateway for link2

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Why do you use a devil as a mascot? because i use freebsd. and i am a devil. And every true devil use FreeBSD. For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! José Silveira ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

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