Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[Wojciech Puchar]

1) Is ZFS as of 8.1 Release considered to be ready for mission critical?


no. ZFS is not usable and will never be usable for anything more than a 
toy. This is a result of that design.


use UFS if you want something you can trust
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Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work

[Wojciech Puchar]

The thing is - and was then, too - that this list is widely advertised
(in the handbook, even the installed /etc/motd) as the primary contact
point for new people with questions about FreeBSD, and as such can't be
moderated by 'some poor bastard .. 24/7/365' as I put it then, nor can
it require pre-subscription as do some of the better-disciplined lists.



the only way to make ANY discussion forum usable is to have moderation and 
clear rules of posting.


Otherwise it will be destroyed. Buy random people or actually by someone 
spreading nonsense willingfully. Or both



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Re: IPFW at startup.

[Wojciech Puchar]

simply edit /etc/rc.d/ipfw and make it doing only what you want.

On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Grant Peel wrote:


Hi all,

I seem to have one server that does not flush the /etc/rc.firewall rules when 
the script taken from firewall_type  starts up. That is to say when I boot 
the machine, 3 rules seem to be still in the list when I do an ipfw -a list. 
Those three rules appear to be from the /etc.rc.firewall script. The rules 
from my /etc/ipfw.rules file DO get loaded.


Here are the three rules (100, 200, and 300), from /etc/rc.firewall.

setup_loopback () {
  
  # Only in rare cases do you want to change these rules
  #
  ${fwcmd} add 100 pass all from any to any via lo0
  ${fwcmd} add 200 deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8
  ${fwcmd} add 300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any

Here is my /etc/rc,conf setup:

firewall_enable=YES
firewall_logging=YES
firewall_type=/etc/ipfw.rules

Here is my /etc/ipfw.rules:

enterprise# more /etc/ipfw.rules
# Loopback
add 1 allow ip from any to any via lo0
# Office and Home
add 00200 allow ip from xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
add 00201 allow ip from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
add 00202 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
add 00203 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
# Allow fxp0 out
add 00204 allow all from any to any out
# Allow local net
add 02000 allow ip from any to any via fxp1
# email
add 04000 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
add 04010 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
add 04020 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
add 04030 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
add 04040 allow tcp from any to any 25,587
add 04050 allow tcp from any 25,587 to any
# Bruteblock
add 08000 deny ip from table(1) to me
add 08001 deny ip from me to table(1)
add 09050 allow udp from any to any 53 in
# Email Test
add 09100 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 
0,3,4,5,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18

add 65535 deny ip from any to any

Oddly enough, I have several machies that are setup identicly and this is the 
only one that has stikky rules from /etc/rc.firewall.


Any one have any idea what knob might have been turned that causes the sticky 
startup rules?


-Grant 
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Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

[Wojciech Puchar]

implemented at all -- but BCPL developed a following.  Someone
(at Bell Labs?) produced a derivative called B, from which a few
researchers at Murray Hill derived C.  Thus the question:  should
the next language in the series be named D (next alphabetically)
or P (next letter of BCPL)?
there will no no next language. there is no need to have C follower. C is 
perfect

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Re: zfs on 7.3 with 7.2 world

[cronfy]

Hello,


  I want to start using ZFS v13 and I have FreeBSD 7.2 world with 7.3
 kernel.
 
  And if I need to upgrade something in the world - what should it be?

 Why do you not update FreeBSD properly? If you want to use 7.3, install
 kernel _and_ world. (I would suggest using 8.1 though.)


If it would be my own desktop I surely did upgrade it as described and
switched to 8.1 too. But this is a production server, so I am trying to keep
changes as minimal as possible and only if changes are required indeed.


-- 
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Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

[Arthur Chance]

On 11/14/10 20:44, Gary Kline wrote:

TWo questions: didn't IBM create CPL? And doesn't BCPL
Stand for British Computer Programming Language?  (I did have
both editions of the C book by Brian and DEnnis; then loaned the
2nd edition and never got ti back.)  I think Dennis gives credit
to BCPL Somewhere.  Pretty sure those guys are all retired to
somewhere *warm and sunny* by now!


According to Wikipedia:

 The Combined Programming Language (CPL) was a computer programming
 language developed jointly between the Mathematical Laboratory at the
 University of Cambridge and the University of London Computer Unit
 during the 1960s hence CPL gained the nickname Cambridge Plus London

Martin Richards, who invented/first implemented BCPL is technically 
retired but still active here in Cambridge (the UK one):


http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/index.html

[Note the address of Cambridge Computer Lab :-)]

--
Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a
wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like.

-- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_
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Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work

[Jerry]

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:32:37 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl articulated:

 the only way to make ANY discussion forum usable is to have
 moderation and clear rules of posting.
 
 Otherwise it will be destroyed. Buy random people or actually by
  ^^^
Maybe if we didn't buy them they wouldn't be spreading useless chatter.
 someone spreading nonsense willingfully. Or both

Since it has now become apparent that the SUBJECT of the post loses
its relationship to the actual content of the post after X replies on
this forum, I propose that we start a study on how many replies does it
take for that phenomena to occur. Perhaps we could set up some sort
of automation that would cut off all replies to a thread after that
threshold had been reached.

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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[krad]

On 15 November 2010 08:28, Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:


 1) Is ZFS as of 8.1 Release considered to be ready for mission critical?


 no. ZFS is not usable and will never be usable for anything more than a
 toy. This is a result of that design.

 use UFS if you want something you can trust

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Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work

[Charlie Kester]

On Mon 15 Nov 2010 at 00:32:37 PST Wojciech Puchar wrote:


the only way to make ANY discussion forum usable is to have 
moderation and clear rules of posting.


Otherwise it will be destroyed. Buy random people or actually by 
someone spreading nonsense willingfully. Or both




I notice that you never got an answer to your question about that PCIe
controller.  I wish I had an answer for you, and that people finding
your question in the list archives won't have to wade through so many
useless replies only to come up empty.  I think we owe both you and them
an apology.

No one should add anything more to this thread unless it answers
Wojciech's specific technical question.  If you can't resist the urge to
discuss list moderation or anything else that's been spuriously
introduced into this thread, please start another one.

(But I completely agree with Wojciech's comments above, and don't expect
my plea for self-moderation to have any lasting effect.)
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Problem with bwn and firmware (bwn0: the fw file(bwn_v4_lp_ucode15) not found)

[Dmitry Krivenok]

Hello!

I have the following wi-fi card on my Dell Latitude E6400:

siba_b...@pci0:12:0:0:  class=0x028000 card=0x000c1028 chip=0x431514e4
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
   vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
   device = 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'
   class  = network

Grepping for 0x4315 I found that my card is supported by bwn driver:

r...@olimpico-freebsd 22:08:00 ~ # [0] grep -r 4315 /usr/src/sys/dev/
| grep -i bcm
/usr/src/sys/dev/siba/siba_bwn.c:   { PCI_VENDOR_BROADCOM, 0x4315,
Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g Wireless },
r...@olimpico-freebsd 22:08:01 ~ # [0 0]

I have recompiled my kernel (slightly modified 8.1 kernel) with the
following options set:
  device siba_bwn
  device bwn
  device wlan
  device wlan_amrr
  device firmware

Then I installed bwn-firmware-kmod port and now I have the following
modules loaded:

r...@olimpico-freebsd 21:57:25 ~ # [0] kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 19 0xc040 7bde40   kernel
 21 0xc0bbe000 37248if_bwn.ko
 31 0xc0bf6000 2b770bwn_v4_ucode.ko
 41 0xc0c22000 2cb24bwn_v4_lp_ucode.ko
r...@olimpico-freebsd 21:57:27 ~ # [0]

These modules were created during bwn-firmware-kmod build using
firmware extracted
from broadcom-wl-4.178.10.4.tar.bz2 by means of b43-fwcutter tool.

I also noticed that bwn0 interface was created:

r...@olimpico-freebsd 21:57:37 ~ # [0] ifconfig bwn0
bwn0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 2290
   ether 90:4c:e5:21:44:ec
   media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (autoselect)
   status: no carrier
r...@olimpico-freebsd 21:57:44 ~ # [0]

My problem, however, is that when I run

r...@olimpico-freebsd 21:59:45 ~ # [0] ifconfig wlan create wlandev
bwn0 ssid olimpico wepmode on wepkey 0120119850 weptxkey 1 up
wlan0
r...@olimpico-freebsd 21:59:54 ~ # [0]

I see the following in dmesg output:

wlan0: Ethernet address: 90:4c:e5:21:44:ec
bwn_v4_lp_ucode15: firmware image loaded, but did not register
bwn0: the fw file(bwn_v4_lp_ucode15) not found
bwn-open_v4_lp_ucode15: could not load firmware image, error 2
bwn0: the fw file(bwn-open_v4_lp_ucode15) not found

Am I missing something important?

Thanks!

-- 
Sincerely yours, Dmitry V. Krivenok
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skype: krivenok_dmitry
jabber: krivenok_dmi...@jabber.ru
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I need help

[Mohsen Mostafa Jokar]

Hello.
My name is mohsen,I'm a student in software engineering.I'm from Iran.
I see Non-English Mailing lists in FreeBSD web site,and i understand FreeBSD
not have mailing list for my countery.
FrreBSD is popular distro in my country,I want know for create new mailing
list for my country what should i do?
I thankful If you guide me.

Thanks.
Best Regards.
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Re: IPFW at startup.

[Chris Rees]

It's not a great idea to hack the rc.d scripts, they can be clobbered when
updating.

Chris



Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do
threading.

On 15 Nov 2010 08:45, Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

simply edit /etc/rc.d/ipfw and make it doing only what you want.



On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Grant Peel wrote:

 Hi all,

 I seem to have one server that does not flus...
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Re: IPFW at startup.

[Ian Smith]

In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 337, Issue 1, Message: 15
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:50:47 -0500 Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote:
  
  I seem to have one server that does not flush the /etc/rc.firewall rules 
  when the script taken from firewall_type  starts up. That is to say when I 
  boot the machine, 3 rules seem to be still in the list when I do an ipfw -a 
  list. Those three rules appear to be from the /etc.rc.firewall script. The 
  rules from my /etc/ipfw.rules file DO get loaded.
  
  Here are the three rules (100, 200, and 300), from /etc/rc.firewall.
  
  setup_loopback () {
  
  # Only in rare cases do you want to change these rules
  #
  ${fwcmd} add 100 pass all from any to any via lo0
  ${fwcmd} add 200 deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8
  ${fwcmd} add 300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any
  
  Here is my /etc/rc,conf setup:
  
  firewall_enable=YES
  firewall_logging=YES
  firewall_type=/etc/ipfw.rules
  
  Here is my /etc/ipfw.rules:
  
  enterprise# more /etc/ipfw.rules
  # Loopback
  add 1 allow ip from any to any via lo0
  # Office and Home

Ok, looking through your /etc/rc.firewall you should find:

  
  # Flush out the list before we begin.
  #
  ${fwcmd} -f flush

  setup_loopback

which installs those rules straight after the flush.  Browsing bits of 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/rc.firewall shows the last 
version that does NOT run setup_loopback in ALL cases is RELENG_6.

Anyway, apart from the fact that rules 200 and 300 are worth having, all 
you need to do to remove those rules is to make your first rule:

-f flush

I'll refrain from comment on your ruleset, except that:

  add 65535 deny ip from any to any

you can't actually override the default rule, which is either 'deny' or 
'allow' according to the value of net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept which 
depends on a kernel build option, so you might use say 65000 to be sure.

  Oddly enough, I have several machies that are setup identicly and this is 
  the only one that has stikky rules from /etc/rc.firewall.
  
  Any one have any idea what knob might have been turned that causes the 
  sticky startup rules?

If those systems are = 7.0, maybe they have an older /etc/rc.firewall?

cheers, Ian
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openssl version - how to verify

[c0re]

Hey all!

If I look at base openssl in 7.3-RELEASE-p3

sys# openssl version -a
OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
built on: Mon Sep 27 11:54:36 MSD 2010
platform: FreeBSD-i386
options:  bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) blowfish(idx)
compiler: cc
OPENSSLDIR: /etc/ssl


but at www.openssl.org I see that it's not recent version

01-Jun-2010:   OpenSSL 0.9.8o is now available, including important
bug and security fixes

I know that freebsd security team make patches for base openssl, but
how can I know what patchlevel of openssl in base version?

Like -p5 in OpenSSL 0.9.8e-p5 23 Feb 2007.
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Re: openssl version - how to verify

[Jerry]

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:17:10 +0300
c0re nr1c...@gmail.com articulated:

 If I look at base openssl in 7.3-RELEASE-p3
 
 sys# openssl version -a
 OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
 built on: Mon Sep 27 11:54:36 MSD 2010
 platform: FreeBSD-i386
 options:  bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long)
 blowfish(idx) compiler: cc
 OPENSSLDIR: /etc/ssl
 
 but at www.openssl.org I see that it's not recent version
 
 01-Jun-2010: OpenSSL 0.9.8o is now available, including
 important bug and security fixes
 
 I know that freebsd security team make patches for base openssl, but
 how can I know what patchlevel of openssl in base version?
 
 Like -p5 in OpenSSL 0.9.8e-p5 23 Feb 2007.

Why not just install the ports version:

openssl version -a 
OpenSSL 1.0.0a 1 Jun 2010
built on: Sun Jun  6 12:19:12 EDT 2010
platform: BSD-x86_64
options:  bn(64,64) rc4(8x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) idea(int) blowfish(idx) 
compiler: cc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DZLIB_SHARED -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS 
-D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIOS -O3 
-DMD32_REG_T=int -Wall -O2 -pipe -march=athlon64 -fno-strict-aliasing 
-DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM 
-DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM
OPENSSLDIR: /usr/local/openssl

You would need to add this to the /etc/make.conf file first I believe:

WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes

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Re: openssl version - how to verify

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Hash: SHA1


On 16/11/2010, at 00:38, Jerry wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:17:10 +0300
 c0re nr1c...@gmail.com articulated:
 
 If I look at base openssl in 7.3-RELEASE-p3
 
 sys# openssl version -a
 OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
 built on: Mon Sep 27 11:54:36 MSD 2010
 platform: FreeBSD-i386
 options:  bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long)
 blowfish(idx) compiler: cc
 OPENSSLDIR: /etc/ssl
 
 but at www.openssl.org I see that it's not recent version
 
 01-Jun-2010:OpenSSL 0.9.8o is now available, including
 important bug and security fixes
 
 I know that freebsd security team make patches for base openssl, but
 how can I know what patchlevel of openssl in base version?
 
 Like -p5 in OpenSSL 0.9.8e-p5 23 Feb 2007.
 
 Why not just install the ports version:

It breaks alot, and causes you to need to rebuild some parts of the base 
system. The most notable, is SSHD, which whenever I install the openssl from 
ports, will not work unless i rebuild SSHD or, remove the ports version.

 
 openssl version -a 
 OpenSSL 1.0.0a 1 Jun 2010
 built on: Sun Jun  6 12:19:12 EDT 2010
 platform: BSD-x86_64
 options:  bn(64,64) rc4(8x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) idea(int) blowfish(idx) 
 compiler: cc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DZLIB_SHARED -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS 
 -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIOS -O3 
 -DMD32_REG_T=int -Wall -O2 -pipe -march=athlon64 -fno-strict-aliasing 
 -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM 
 -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM
 OPENSSLDIR: /usr/local/openssl
 
 You would need to add this to the /etc/make.conf file first I believe:
 
   WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes
 
 -- 
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/usr/ports/net-im/ejabberd

[t...@diogunix.com]

Hi ALL,

surprisingly, the port for /usr/ports/net-im/ejabberd too tries to build a 
bunch of software usually not associated with ejabberd (such as a lot of 
Java, X11, OpenMotif, GTK and don't know what else).

After hours, the build of ejabberd then failed with:

/local/include  -rpath=/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib \
sha_drv.c \
 \
-L/usr/local/ssl/lib -lssl -lcrypto \
-DHAVE_SSL \
-L/usr/local/lib/erlang/lib/erl_interface-3.7.1/lib -
lerl_interface -lei \
-I/usr/local/lib/erlang/lib/erl_interface-3.7.1/include -
I/usr/local/lib/erlang/usr/include \
-o ../sha_drv.so \
-fpic -shared
In file included from sha_drv.c:23:
/usr/include/openssl/md2.h:64:2: error: #error MD2 is disabled.
gmake[1]: *** [../sha_drv.so] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net-
im/ejabberd/work/ejabberd-2.1.5/src/tls'
gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net-im/ejabberd.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net-im/ejabberd.

I did not include any special compile options.

Any hints out there ?

kind regards
Tom
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Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

[Ian Smith]

In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 337, Issue 1, Message: 19
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:29:10 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
   
  About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine 
  effort.  It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into 
  C++.  Figured since C++ was _the_ new language that it was a 
  good move.  Then I realized how you could spend a lifetime
  learning C++ I backed off and kept it simple.

Deftly avoiding the whirlpool.  Delphi was the similar suck from Pascal.

  Hardly new.  It hasn't been the Next Big Thing since the '80s.  Java was
  the Next Big Thing in the '90s.  We don't exactly have a new Next Big
  Thing for the '00s, from what I can see -- and maybe that's a good thing.
 
  Agile development is the Next Big Thing for development methodologies,
  but that's a somewhat separate issue.

Whatever that means, I'll take your word for it :)

  Yeah, it's on amazon.com, but my bible {seriously!} is good
  enough.  Dog-earned and coffee-stained; but it's the same as the
  2nd Ed.  The 2nd is ANSI-ified, IIRC.
  
  That's correct -- 2nd Ed is the ANSI C version of basically the same
  text.

Hey, didn't know I had a rare '78 first ed; ANSI not even in the index. 
I confess to buying it secondhand in '94 from a likely sorry bloke, and 
wonder if anyone's published a diff (ono) to the 2nd ed?

But my most dog-eared, tabbed and note-stuffed reference is Kernighan  
Plauger's Software Tools in Pascal ('81) - lovely if only for quality of 
the writing and typesetting.  Appropriate thread for a little heresy? :)

cheers, Ian
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Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could

[Tom Worster]

On 11/13/10 6:32 PM, dalesc...@shaw.ca dalesc...@shaw.ca wrote:

 but dedicated/vps does not offer what cloud computing does.

What do feel are the advantages of the cloud?

i haven't used one yet but, as far as i can tell, the interesting
differences derive from how the could platform implements network, storage
and compute elements in a distributed hardware system meshed up with a
mesh interconnect (presumably of the high-performance computing type).

the resulting advantages for me: the storage arrays are raid 10 and all
their responsibility not mine; shared file systems are part of the
platform so i don't need to mess around with nfs; load balancing (which i
currently can't afford) is part of the network platform; so is the address
juggling needed for high availability (failover and restoration); and the
price for each vm seems to allow me maybe 2 or 3x as many hosts as i get
with dedicated servers so i can separate the db servers from the rest of
the app and assign no more memory than i need to each vm.

in summary, it seems i can get the high-availability, load-sharing
architecture i want at a price that's beyond my budget with dedicated
hosts.

and it looks like there's a bunch of other nice aspects that aren't
radical but will be time savers: backups, standby images, simpler sysadmin
(there's a lot less to a cloud server slice than a whole computer),
monitoring, persistence.

does this begin to answer your question?


this weekend i tried out gentoo on a wee celeron box i have. (someone here
said gentoo was the linux most like freebsd and rackspace cloud offers
it). it's the first linux experience i've had in which i didn't feel like
a clumsy incompetent. the similarities and differences relative to freebsd
are interesting. maybe i'll write up my initial impressions.


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Re: openssl version - how to verify

[Jerry]

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Indexer inde...@internode.on.net articulated:

 It breaks alot, and causes you to need to rebuild some parts of the
 base system. The most notable, is SSHD, which whenever I install the
 openssl from ports, will not work unless i rebuild SSHD or, remove
 the ports version.

There were (maybe still are) a few ports that don't work correctly with
openssl via ports; however, I have filed PRs on them and for the most
part they have been fixed. However, I would not let that fact deter
you from using a newer, safer version of the application.

When building a new system, I start with the newer version from the
start. If updating later, I have found that first installing the new
openssl version via ports, and then using portmanager with the -p
option rebuilds virtually any port still dependent on the deprecated
version. In any case, I believe it is a prerequisite to have the
previously noted notation in the /etc/make.conf file prior to building
any port(s) or kernel/world.

In jedem Falle jedoch zu seinem eigenen.

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Fwd: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could

[Aryeh Friedman]

For us it is mostly cost but the other advantage (with RS at least) is
you can size the hardware to fit your needs and not get any more
then you need... for example when we first started our consulting firm
back in July we bought 256MB of RAM (RS sizes the Disk, CPU,
Bandwidth, etc. as a multiple of RAM) and then moved to 512MB in Sept.
and except for the 10 mins it took for RS to transfer our server image
from a 1U VM to a 2U VM (1U = 256MB/RAM) the move was completely
painless and no time and effort was needed to update the OS, 3rd party
apps, our custom made code, etc

Like I said early the only downside of using RS as our primary server
provider (even though we use it for internal development only [but
since each of the 3 partners lives in a different part of the US it is
much cheaper and easier then having it in one of our houses because
none of our ISP's allow static IP's for non-business users which is
twice the cost almost])


-- Forwarded message --
From: Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org
Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could
To: dalesc...@shaw.ca
Cc: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org


On 11/13/10 6:32 PM, dalesc...@shaw.ca dalesc...@shaw.ca wrote:

 but dedicated/vps does not offer what cloud computing does.

What do feel are the advantages of the cloud?

i haven't used one yet but, as far as i can tell, the interesting
differences derive from how the could platform implements network, storage
and compute elements in a distributed hardware system meshed up with a
mesh interconnect (presumably of the high-performance computing type).

the resulting advantages for me: the storage arrays are raid 10 and all
their responsibility not mine; shared file systems are part of the
platform so i don't need to mess around with nfs; load balancing (which i
currently can't afford) is part of the network platform; so is the address
juggling needed for high availability (failover and restoration); and the
price for each vm seems to allow me maybe 2 or 3x as many hosts as i get
with dedicated servers so i can separate the db servers from the rest of
the app and assign no more memory than i need to each vm.

in summary, it seems i can get the high-availability, load-sharing
architecture i want at a price that's beyond my budget with dedicated
hosts.

and it looks like there's a bunch of other nice aspects that aren't
radical but will be time savers: backups, standby images, simpler sysadmin
(there's a lot less to a cloud server slice than a whole computer),
monitoring, persistence.

does this begin to answer your question?


this weekend i tried out gentoo on a wee celeron box i have. (someone here
said gentoo was the linux most like freebsd and rackspace cloud offers
it). it's the first linux experience i've had in which i didn't feel like
a clumsy incompetent. the similarities and differences relative to freebsd
are interesting. maybe i'll write up my initial impressions.


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Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could

[Aryeh Friedman]

oops should of said the main disadvantage is it is not FreeBSD

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Aryeh Friedman
aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote:
 For us it is mostly cost but the other advantage (with RS at least) is
 you can size the hardware to fit your needs and not get any more
 then you need... for example when we first started our consulting firm
 back in July we bought 256MB of RAM (RS sizes the Disk, CPU,
 Bandwidth, etc. as a multiple of RAM) and then moved to 512MB in Sept.
 and except for the 10 mins it took for RS to transfer our server image
 from a 1U VM to a 2U VM (1U = 256MB/RAM) the move was completely
 painless and no time and effort was needed to update the OS, 3rd party
 apps, our custom made code, etc

 Like I said early the only downside of using RS as our primary server
 provider (even though we use it for internal development only [but
 since each of the 3 partners lives in a different part of the US it is
 much cheaper and easier then having it in one of our houses because
 none of our ISP's allow static IP's for non-business users which is
 twice the cost almost])


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org
 Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could
 To: dalesc...@shaw.ca
 Cc: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org


 On 11/13/10 6:32 PM, dalesc...@shaw.ca dalesc...@shaw.ca wrote:

 but dedicated/vps does not offer what cloud computing does.

What do feel are the advantages of the cloud?

 i haven't used one yet but, as far as i can tell, the interesting
 differences derive from how the could platform implements network, storage
 and compute elements in a distributed hardware system meshed up with a
 mesh interconnect (presumably of the high-performance computing type).

 the resulting advantages for me: the storage arrays are raid 10 and all
 their responsibility not mine; shared file systems are part of the
 platform so i don't need to mess around with nfs; load balancing (which i
 currently can't afford) is part of the network platform; so is the address
 juggling needed for high availability (failover and restoration); and the
 price for each vm seems to allow me maybe 2 or 3x as many hosts as i get
 with dedicated servers so i can separate the db servers from the rest of
 the app and assign no more memory than i need to each vm.

 in summary, it seems i can get the high-availability, load-sharing
 architecture i want at a price that's beyond my budget with dedicated
 hosts.

 and it looks like there's a bunch of other nice aspects that aren't
 radical but will be time savers: backups, standby images, simpler sysadmin
 (there's a lot less to a cloud server slice than a whole computer),
 monitoring, persistence.

 does this begin to answer your question?


 this weekend i tried out gentoo on a wee celeron box i have. (someone here
 said gentoo was the linux most like freebsd and rackspace cloud offers
 it). it's the first linux experience i've had in which i didn't feel like
 a clumsy incompetent. the similarities and differences relative to freebsd
 are interesting. maybe i'll write up my initial impressions.


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ZFS and 4k sector drives

[Rob]

I'm trying to figure out how, if it's possible, to make the 4k sector 
drives work with ZFS raidz2 pools.  It seems that most of the 4k sector 
drives are using emulation, and reporting 512 byte sectors to the OS 
instead of their native 4k size.  I know someone who had an issue trying 
to insert one of these drives into a running ZFS pool with other 512 
byte sector drives with bad results.


At one point I was told that it might be possible to use geli to specify 
the sector size (4k) and add those geli devices to a ZFS pool.  I've 
even seen mention of using gnop.  Does anyone know how well either 
solution works?  Is there a known way to get these 4k sector drives to 
work in ZFS raidz2?


In addition to that, how does ZFS handle drives with different sector 
sizes?  Can I have a pool with 512 byte and 4k sector drives, or should 
all drives in a pool have the same sector size?


Rob
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Re: zfs on 7.3 with 7.2 world

[krad]

On 15 November 2010 08:56, cronfy cro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,


   I want to start using ZFS v13 and I have FreeBSD 7.2 world with 7.3
  kernel.
  
   And if I need to upgrade something in the world - what should it be?
 
  Why do you not update FreeBSD properly? If you want to use 7.3, install
  kernel _and_ world. (I would suggest using 8.1 though.)
 
 
 If it would be my own desktop I surely did upgrade it as described and
 switched to 8.1 too. But this is a production server, so I am trying to
 keep
 changes as minimal as possible and only if changes are required indeed.


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but you now have a critical box in an unsupportable inconsistent state. If I
were your boss and knew you were doing that I would be asking serious
questions
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Re: openssl version - how to verify

[c0re]

2010/11/15 Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net:
 On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:17:10 +0300
 c0re nr1c...@gmail.com articulated:

 If I look at base openssl in 7.3-RELEASE-p3

 sys# openssl version -a
 OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
 built on: Mon Sep 27 11:54:36 MSD 2010
 platform: FreeBSD-i386
 options:  bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long)
 blowfish(idx) compiler: cc
 OPENSSLDIR: /etc/ssl

 but at www.openssl.org I see that it's not recent version

 01-Jun-2010:     OpenSSL 0.9.8o is now available, including
 important bug and security fixes

 I know that freebsd security team make patches for base openssl, but
 how can I know what patchlevel of openssl in base version?

 Like -p5 in OpenSSL 0.9.8e-p5 23 Feb 2007.

 Why not just install the ports version:

 openssl version -a
 OpenSSL 1.0.0a 1 Jun 2010
 built on: Sun Jun  6 12:19:12 EDT 2010
 platform: BSD-x86_64
 options:  bn(64,64) rc4(8x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) idea(int) blowfish(idx)
 compiler: cc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DZLIB_SHARED -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS 
 -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIOS -O3 
 -DMD32_REG_T=int -Wall -O2 -pipe -march=athlon64 -fno-strict-aliasing 
 -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM 
 -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM
 OPENSSLDIR: /usr/local/openssl

 You would need to add this to the /etc/make.conf file first I believe:

        WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes


There are still too many broken ports with openssl from ports, I do
not like debug it and really like to use base openssl, almost no
difference.
But I just want to have some proves that base system openssl has
security patches because 7.3-RELEASE base openssl is 0.9.8e, but
0.9.8e has got security vulnerabilities. But how can I be sure that
freebsd base system with 0.9.8e version does not have any
vulnerabilities?
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Re: top different output

[Alexander Best]

On Sat Nov 13 10, Dan Nelson wrote:
 In the last episode (Nov 13):
  Hi, Freebsd-questions.
  *pls. redirect to right developers thread
  
  in 7.2FreeBSD top show as:
   32 root   -68- 0K16K WAIT72:24 10.25% irq16: rl0
  
  in 9.0FreeBSD top show as:
   12 root   28 -28- 0K   224K WAIT3 223:03 42.77% intr
  
  top -SIP
  
  in 7 version top has better output because of I can see which interrupt
  get CPU time, in 9 I can not
 
 Interrupts are now processed as kernel threads.  Press H (or use -H on the
 commandline) in top to show each thread on its own line:

imo the top(1) manual documents the -H switch/option very badly. nobody will
ever discover it unless they know exactly what they're looking for.

i assume this is being done to keep consistency with the vendor version of the
top(1) manual, but there must be a better way doing this.

cheers.
alex

 
 without H:
12 root 18 -60- 0K   144K WAIT   624.2H  2.39% intr
 
 with H:
12 root   -32- 0K   144K WAIT   377.9H  2.78% {swi4: clock}
12 root   -68- 0K   144K WAIT   245.9H  0.39% {irq22: fxp1}
 
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Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work

[Chip Camden]

Quoth Jerry on Monday, 15 November 2010:
 
 Since it has now become apparent that the SUBJECT of the post loses
 its relationship to the actual content of the post after X replies on
 this forum, I propose that we start a study on how many replies does it
 take for that phenomena to occur. Perhaps we could set up some sort
 of automation that would cut off all replies to a thread after that
 threshold had been reached.
 
 -- 
 Jerry ???
 freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
 

I propose that we spend our energies working on something that FreeBSD
users would give a damn about, like enabling GEM support so the latest
Intel drivers can be ported to support Ironlake graphics.

-- 
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http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com


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LSI 9211 driver

[Gergely CZUCZY]

Hello,

I'd like to ask when can we expect a driver for the LSI 9211 hardware?
That is, the following device:
non...@pci0:4:0:0:  class=0x010700 card=0x30501000 chip=0x00721000
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SAS


I've tried to add the cardID to the mfi(4) and mpt(4) drivers, but the
most I could get, is a failed initalization.

If any devs supposed to add properly the device to any of the drivers,
I should be able to arrange access to this device for the time of the
development.

Please be so kind to reply to any known developers of these drivers, if
they might not read these mailing lists, in order to get a working
driver for this card (been seen google hits on many missing the support
for this driver).

Drivers for linux and solars are availabe on LSI.com, but not for fbsd.

Thank you very much in advance.

Best regards,
Gergely

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Re: openssl version - how to verify

[Jerry]

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:40:27 +0300
c0re nr1c...@gmail.com articulated:

 There are still too many broken ports with openssl from ports, I do
 not like debug it and really like to use base openssl, almost no
 difference.

Might I suggest that if you are aware of ports that don't work
correctly with the port's version of openssl that you file a PR against
it. I have done so and succeeded in getting several patches issued to
correct the problem. This problem will not go away by itself.

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Re: I need help

[Alejandro Imass]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Mohsen Mostafa Jokar
mohsenjo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.
 My name is mohsen,I'm a student in software engineering.I'm from Iran.
 I see Non-English Mailing lists in FreeBSD web site,and i understand FreeBSD
 not have mailing list for my countery.
 FrreBSD is popular distro in my country,I want know for create new mailing
 list for my country what should i do?
 I thankful If you guide me.

Hi Mohsen,

Look at the statement at the bottom of the non-English mailing list bullets:

If you create other FreeBSD mailing lists, let us know about them.
The link points to here: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html

You would need to round-up local FBSD user groups to see if they can
contribute to the maintenance of your server and Internet/Hosting
costs. Probably your best bet is a University that is willing to host
the server for you.

Once you have firgured out who and how you are going to cover the
costs of your mailing list and tie a domain to it. A domain like
FreeBSD would almost certainly be taken, in your case, Mr. Mehdi
Halataei has registered FreeBSD.ir but FreeBSD.org.ir is free so the
first thing I would do is go to http://www.nic.ir/ before some else
takes it. I would also contact Mr. Halataei to see what his intentions
are with that domain and maybe work together.

Once you have solved the issues above, get yourself some hardware and
set-up Mailman for your list. Once the list is ___working and
active___, contact the FBSD people to see if they can add it to the
non-English list. There may be some legal issues here because of the
export controls to Iran, in fact, there are probably even legal issues
downloading FBSD to Iran in the first place, although I think that
most components and ports qualify for exception of category 5 part II
of EAR, but I'm not an expert and this issue has come up several times
here so check the archives for more information.

A cheaper and fast alternative is to use Google Groups but I don't
know if it's legal or not, because as you probably know Google has no
direct presence in Iran. Check out with them first before you use that
option so later you won't lose your list archives if they shut down
the list.

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Re: LSI 9211 driver

[John Baldwin]

On Monday, November 15, 2010 12:03:35 pm Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to ask when can we expect a driver for the LSI 9211 hardware?
 That is, the following device:
 non...@pci0:4:0:0:  class=0x010700 card=0x30501000 chip=0x00721000
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = SAS
 
 
 I've tried to add the cardID to the mfi(4) and mpt(4) drivers, but the
 most I could get, is a failed initalization.
 
 If any devs supposed to add properly the device to any of the drivers,
 I should be able to arrange access to this device for the time of the
 development.
 
 Please be so kind to reply to any known developers of these drivers, if
 they might not read these mailing lists, in order to get a working
 driver for this card (been seen google hits on many missing the support
 for this driver).
 
 Drivers for linux and solars are availabe on LSI.com, but not for fbsd.
 
 Thank you very much in advance.

Did you try the mps(4) driver from HEAD?

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Re: IPFW at startup.

[Коньков Евгений]

Здравствуйте, Grant.

Вы писали 15 ноября 2010 г., 0:50:47:

GP Hi all,

GP I seem to have one server that does not flush the /etc/rc.firewall rules
GP when the script taken from firewall_type  starts up. That is to say when I
GP boot the machine, 3 rules seem to be still in the list when I do an ipfw -a
GP list. Those three rules appear to be from the /etc.rc.firewall script. The
GP rules from my /etc/ipfw.rules file DO get loaded.

GP Here are the three rules (100, 200, and 300), from /etc/rc.firewall.

GP setup_loopback () {
GP 
GP # Only in rare cases do you want to change these rules
GP #
GP ${fwcmd} add 100 pass all from any to any via lo0
GP ${fwcmd} add 200 deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8
GP ${fwcmd} add 300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any

GP Here is my /etc/rc,conf setup:

GP firewall_enable=YES
GP firewall_logging=YES
GP firewall_type=/etc/ipfw.rules
you need firewall_script variable

GP Here is my /etc/ipfw.rules:

GP enterprise# more /etc/ipfw.rules
GP # Loopback
GP add 1 allow ip from any to any via lo0
GP # Office and Home
GP add 00200 allow ip from xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
GP add 00201 allow ip from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
GP add 00202 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
GP add 00203 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
GP # Allow fxp0 out
GP add 00204 allow all from any to any out
GP # Allow local net
GP add 02000 allow ip from any to any via fxp1
GP # email
GP add 04000 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
GP add 04010 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
GP add 04020 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
GP add 04030 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
GP add 04040 allow tcp from any to any 25,587
GP add 04050 allow tcp from any 25,587 to any
GP # Bruteblock
GP add 08000 deny ip from table(1) to me
GP add 08001 deny ip from me to table(1)
GP add 09050 allow udp from any to any 53 in
GP # Email Test
GP add 09100 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 
GP 0,3,4,5,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18
GP add 65535 deny ip from any to any

GP Oddly enough, I have several machies that are setup identicly and this is
GP the only one that has stikky rules from /etc/rc.firewall.

GP Any one have any idea what knob might have been turned that causes the
GP sticky startup rules?

GP -Grant 

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Re: LSI 9211 driver

[Gergely CZUCZY]

Hello,

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:06:10 -0500
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Monday, November 15, 2010 12:03:35 pm Gergely CZUCZY wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I'd like to ask when can we expect a driver for the LSI 9211
  hardware? That is, the following device:
  non...@pci0:4:0:0:  class=0x010700 card=0x30501000
  chip=0x00721000 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was:
  Symbios Logic, NCR)' class  = mass storage
  subclass   = SAS
  
  
  I've tried to add the cardID to the mfi(4) and mpt(4) drivers, but
  the most I could get, is a failed initalization.
  
  If any devs supposed to add properly the device to any of the
  drivers, I should be able to arrange access to this device for the
  time of the development.
  
  Please be so kind to reply to any known developers of these
  drivers, if they might not read these mailing lists, in order to
  get a working driver for this card (been seen google hits on many
  missing the support for this driver).
  
  Drivers for linux and solars are availabe on LSI.com, but not for
  fbsd.
  
  Thank you very much in advance.
 
 Did you try the mps(4) driver from HEAD?
Not yet. Can I MFC it without issues (like copying it), or does it need
something special?

 



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Re: About FreeBSD kernel newbies

[Michael Powell]

Fernando Apesteguía wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering if anyone has considered the creation of  a kernel
 newbies mail list for FreeBSD.
 I am aware of two places where someone can ask questions about that:
 either freebsd-hackers@ or the FreeBSD Development forum
 at http://forums.freebsd.org.
 
 I've been following the Linux kernel newbies list for a while and I
 think it is very informative.
 
 Would it be good to have such a list?
 
Can't say for sure myself, but certain points do spring to mind - mainly 
based upon the fact than 'BSD's are not Linux. The main difference that 
would apply is the separation in the Linux world between kernel development 
and userland. Some work on the kernel while others package distros, adding a 
userland to what kernel developers produce.

FreeBSD is not Linux in that it is a complete operating system, kernel and 
userland are developed together and distributed as a complete unit. Since 
there is no separation between kernel and userland development maybe an 
alternate proposal might be for people coming to FreeBSD from the Linux 
world to endeavor to learn and adjust to what has worked for the community 
well for many years now. In other words, leave the Linuxisms in Linux land 
and learn the FreeBSD-isms. 

The FreeBSD community does try and function as a meritocracy for a lofty 
goal. It may not be perfect, but it also does try and be open and look at 
new ideas when they come around. Things not immediately dismissed out of 
hand will be debated from the bottom up, and if by the time it percolates 
upwards to the top it has survived many a thrashing it may just be 
committed.

So, no harm in proposing new ideas. Just keep in mind that many times such 
proposals have a limited lifetime and have actually been proposed before. 
The community may have bandied the idea about and decided not to pursue it. 
Then it is quickly forgotten until the next cycle comes around with some 
newcomer proposing the same thing again. It happens. Witness the Why Do You 
Have a Devil for a Mascot meme that continues to resurface periodically 
year after year. We got tired of that many years ago, but it just will not 
go away...  :-)

So if the larger community and it's reasoned approach decides a proposal has 
merit for whatever number of supporting arguments, and idea might just take 
flight. Whatever I, as one individual, may think about any one idea/proposal 
it is the larger community in general that will decide. 

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Re: IPFW at startup.

[Dave Robison]

I haven't seen someone use firewall_type as a path to the config file. 
If you check the default rc.firewall file, you will see several types of 
default firewall settings, such as open and closed. You want to set 
firewall_type in rc.conf to be open or whatever your firewall type 
is in /etc/rc.firewall.


You can probably get away with editing your existing rc.firewall to 
include a firewall type, such as custom, then defining firewall_type 
as custom in /etc/rc.conf.


Enjoy,


On 11/14/10 14:50, Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

I seem to have one server that does not flush the /etc/rc.firewall 
rules when the script taken from firewall_type  starts up. That is 
to say when I boot the machine, 3 rules seem to be still in the list 
when I do an ipfw -a list. Those three rules appear to be from the 
/etc.rc.firewall script. The rules from my /etc/ipfw.rules file DO get 
loaded.


Here are the three rules (100, 200, and 300), from /etc/rc.firewall.

setup_loopback () {
   
   # Only in rare cases do you want to change these rules
   #
   ${fwcmd} add 100 pass all from any to any via lo0
   ${fwcmd} add 200 deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8
   ${fwcmd} add 300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any

Here is my /etc/rc,conf setup:

firewall_enable=YES
firewall_logging=YES
firewall_type=/etc/ipfw.rules

Here is my /etc/ipfw.rules:

enterprise# more /etc/ipfw.rules
# Loopback
add 1 allow ip from any to any via lo0
# Office and Home
add 00200 allow ip from xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
add 00201 allow ip from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
add 00202 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
add 00203 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
# Allow fxp0 out
add 00204 allow all from any to any out
# Allow local net
add 02000 allow ip from any to any via fxp1
# email
add 04000 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
add 04010 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
add 04020 allow all from xxx xxx xxx xxx to any
add 04030 allow all from any to xxx xxx xxx xxx
add 04040 allow tcp from any to any 25,587
add 04050 allow tcp from any 25,587 to any
# Bruteblock
add 08000 deny ip from table(1) to me
add 08001 deny ip from me to table(1)
add 09050 allow udp from any to any 53 in
# Email Test
add 09100 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 
0,3,4,5,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18

add 65535 deny ip from any to any

Oddly enough, I have several machies that are setup identicly and this 
is the only one that has stikky rules from /etc/rc.firewall.


Any one have any idea what knob might have been turned that causes the 
sticky startup rules?


-Grant
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Re: LSI 9211 driver

[Scott Long]

A driver called mps exists in FreeBSD 9-CURRENT.  We're working to move it to 
FreeBSD 8 in time for the 8.2 release.

Scott

On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Gergely CZUCZY (by way of Gergely CZUCZY 
gergely.czu...@harmless.hu) wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'd like to ask when can we expect a driver for the LSI 9211 hardware?
 That is, the following device:
 non...@pci0:4:0:0:  class=0x010700 card=0x30501000 chip=0x00721000
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SAS
 
 
 I've tried to add the cardID to the mfi(4) and mpt(4) drivers, but the
 most I could get, is a failed initalization.
 
 If any devs supposed to add properly the device to any of the drivers,
 I should be able to arrange access to this device for the time of the
 development.
 
 Please be so kind to reply to any known developers of these drivers, if
 they might not read these mailing lists, in order to get a working
 driver for this card (been seen google hits on many missing the support
 for this driver).
 
 Drivers for linux and solars are availabe on LSI.com, but not for fbsd.
 
 Thank you very much in advance.
 
 Best regards,
 Gergely
 
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Re: IPFW at startup.

[Chuck Swiger]

Hi--

On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Dave Robison wrote:
 I haven't seen someone use firewall_type as a path to the config file. If 
 you check the default rc.firewall file, you will see several types of default 
 firewall settings, such as open and closed. You want to set 
 firewall_type in rc.conf to be open or whatever your firewall type is in 
 /etc/rc.firewall.

If you set both of these in /etc/rc.conf:

firewall_type=/etc/FW1.ipfw
firewall_flags=-p cpp

...then /etc/FW1_firewall will be processed by cpp (ie, so you can use #include 
directives, C-style macros, etc) before going to IPFW.

This is probably more obscure than useful for human-editted rulesets :-), but 
for automated processing and accumulating lists of bad hosts via denyhosts or 
similar, it can be useful

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Re: LSI 9211 driver

[Gergely CZUCZY]

Dear Scott and John,

Thank you very much for your quick and helpful reply.

mps(4) does seem to recognize the card, and the disks showed up
properly, so far. Currently i'm loading it from loader.conf, and
putting it inside the kernel config doesn't work, though i think i
just have to insert that somewhere.

I'll test the drivers a bit more when the remaining 6 disks arrive.

Thank you very much again.

Best regards,
Gergely

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:48:56 -0700
Scott Long sco...@samsco.org wrote:

 A driver called mps exists in FreeBSD 9-CURRENT.  We're working to
 move it to FreeBSD 8 in time for the 8.2 release.
 
 Scott
 
 On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Gergely CZUCZY (by way of Gergely
 CZUCZY gergely.czu...@harmless.hu) wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  I'd like to ask when can we expect a driver for the LSI 9211
  hardware? That is, the following device:
  non...@pci0:4:0:0:  class=0x010700 card=0x30501000
  chip=0x00721000 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was:
  Symbios Logic, NCR)' class  = mass storage
 subclass   = SAS
  
  
  I've tried to add the cardID to the mfi(4) and mpt(4) drivers, but
  the most I could get, is a failed initalization.
  
  If any devs supposed to add properly the device to any of the
  drivers, I should be able to arrange access to this device for the
  time of the development.
  
  Please be so kind to reply to any known developers of these
  drivers, if they might not read these mailing lists, in order to
  get a working driver for this card (been seen google hits on many
  missing the support for this driver).
  
  Drivers for linux and solars are availabe on LSI.com, but not for
  fbsd.
  
  Thank you very much in advance.
  
  Best regards,
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Re: Sorry state of the rsync based CVS,replication

[Ken Smith]

On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 12:13 +0100, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote:
 There is nothing which prevents mirror sites from providing access to
 the CVS repo via rsync, even if they get it via CVSup...

I went ahead with adding this to ftp2.freebsd.org:

% rsync ftp2.freebsd.org::FreeBSD-CVS/
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/02 13:35:40 .
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/02 22:09:36 gnats
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/03 02:34:06 mail
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/02 21:50:04 ncvs
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/03 00:51:26 www
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Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work

[Wojciech Puchar]

I propose that we spend our energies working on something that FreeBSD
users would give a damn about, like enabling GEM support so the latest
Intel drivers can be ported to support Ironlake graphics.

and fixing remaining problems with network after big change of 
routing/ipfw in 8.*


most are fixed but still some happen.
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Re: ZFS and 4k sector drives

[Wojciech Puchar]

work with ZFS raidz2 pools.  It seems that most of the 4k sector drives are 
using emulation, and reporting 512 byte sectors to the OS instead of their 
native 4k size.  I know someone who had an issue trying to insert one of 
these drives into a running ZFS pool with other 512 byte sector drives with 
bad results.


ZFS use 4k blocks. assuming it actually is like that and your zfs devices 
are whole devices or aligned partition, there should be no difference.


use camcontrol identify to check what your drive do

[r...@somewhere ~]# camcontrol identify ada0
pass0: SAMSUNG HD321KJ CP100-10 ATA-8 SATA 2.x device
pass0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes)

protocol  ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x
device model  SAMSUNG HD321KJ
firmware revision CP100-10
serial number S0MQJDQP610759
WWN   5000f00db61759
cylinders 16383
heads 16
sectors/track 63
sector size   logical 512, physical 512, offset 0
^^
LBA supported 268435455 sectors
LBA48 supported   625142448 sectors
PIO supported PIO4
DMA supported WDMA2 UDMA6

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Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work

[Wojciech Puchar]

I notice that you never got an answer to your question about that PCIe
controller.  I wish I had an answer for you, and that people finding


now i don't expect it.

seems the problem is that FreeBSD can't by itself set SATA controller 
mode. i can't find such option.


This crappy controllers have builtin bios that don't allow selecting AHCI 
mode.


and non-AHCI mode seems like not working at all.

AHCI mode works, as i have same chip on motherboard but properly set, and 
works.


the real answer is write such support or buy other controller.
i did second as i needed it quickly, siis driver works fine.


your question in the list archives won't have to wade through so many
useless replies only to come up empty.  I think we owe both you and them
an apology.


i didn't use this forum for a long time after seeing it's filled with 
people that usually have no idea about what unix is, but truly believe 
they have.


but i though something changed. Yes it changed - to even worse.

I really don't understand why FreeBSD owners keep that list active at all.


Wojciech's specific technical question.  If you can't resist the urge to
discuss list moderation or anything else that's been spuriously


i already said about moderation long time ago. Actually i told to do 
it when MY posts was considered wrong.


Of course moderation requires clear rules what is ok and what not.

This way anyone may conform to that rules or go away.

Now we have democracy. Democracy always fail, first on any internet 
discussion forums ;)

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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[Wojciech Puchar]

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please elaborate

look at archives. i really don't want to repeat the same many times.
And anyone that actually have clue about what is computer, disk drive, 
reliability and algorithms and can think - after reading how ZFS is 
designed will understand that.


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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[Chris Rees]

On 15 November 2010 19:33, Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

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 please elaborate

 look at archives. i really don't want to repeat the same many times.
 And anyone that actually have clue about what is computer, disk drive,
 reliability and algorithms and can think - after reading how ZFS is designed
 will understand that.

When did you ever 'repeat' that in the first place? Can you provide a
link, I don't recall seeing anyone say that ZFS is a toy.

Chris
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Re: how to generate pi in c

[Chris Rees]

On 11 November 2010 12:06, Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 Does anyone has a generate-pi.c source code?

 atanl(1)

Er, arc tan of 1 is pi/4.

Try atanl(1)*4, or for a less wasteful instruction try using the constant M_PI

Also, forgive me if I'm wrong, but this looks like a homework question.

Chris
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Re: IPFW at startup.

[David Kelly]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:52:41AM -0800, Dave Robison wrote:
 I haven't seen someone use firewall_type as a path to the config
 file. If you check the default rc.firewall file, you will see several
 types of default firewall settings, such as open and closed. You
 want to set firewall_type in rc.conf to be open or whatever your
 firewall type is in /etc/rc.firewall.

What he needs to do is use firewall_script=/etc/ipfw.rules rather than
firewall_type=

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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[Chris Rees]

On 15 November 2010 19:59, Peter Boosten pe...@boosten.org wrote:

 He's consistent in any case (a quick google search reveals this 2008
 message):
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg192926.html

Consistent, but still just spouting uninformed FUD.

Chris
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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[Devin Teske]

On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 20:33 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
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  please elaborate
 look at archives. i really don't want to repeat the same many times.
 And anyone that actually have clue about what is computer, disk drive, 
 reliability and algorithms and can think - after reading how ZFS is 
 designed will understand that.
 

Sounds like FUD.

Like the OP, I too am interested in the current state of ZFS. We've been
following the threads as far as build 28, and I do indeed see positive
improvement and continued development. However, is anyone that is
actively involved in the project able to provide a snapshot opinion of
the production readiness of ZFS for enterprise deployment?

If the opinion is that ZFS is not ready for production, are there any
technical explanations as to the efficacy or lack thereof rather than
the above philosophical FUD which implores the OP to pour over massive
archives (which can paint an inverse picture because the archives are
usually filled with a higher number of issues than success stories --
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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

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On 15 November 2010 20:10, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 20:33 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
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  please elaborate
 look at archives. i really don't want to repeat the same many times.
 And anyone that actually have clue about what is computer, disk drive,
 reliability and algorithms and can think - after reading how ZFS is
 designed will understand that.


 Sounds like FUD.

 Like the OP, I too am interested in the current state of ZFS. We've been
 following the threads as far as build 28, and I do indeed see positive
 improvement and continued development. However, is anyone that is
 actively involved in the project able to provide a snapshot opinion of
 the production readiness of ZFS for enterprise deployment?

 If the opinion is that ZFS is not ready for production, are there any
 technical explanations as to the efficacy or lack thereof rather than
 the above philosophical FUD which implores the OP to pour over massive
 archives (which can paint an inverse picture because the archives are
 usually filled with a higher number of issues than success stories --
 which is true of nearly ANY mailing-list)?
 --
 Cheers,
 Devin Teske

I'm afraid that we can rely on Wojciech to constantly recommend that
you go back to using technology from 20 years ago, because keeping up
with anything current scares him, and he can't be bothered to research
anything properly, instead making sweeping statements about things he
knows little about.

Chris
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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[krad]

On 15 November 2010 19:59, Peter Boosten pe...@boosten.org wrote:


 On 15 nov 2010, at 20:37, Chris Rees wrote:

 On 15 November 2010 19:33, Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl
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 please elaborate


 look at archives. i really don't want to repeat the same many times.

 And anyone that actually have clue about what is computer, disk drive,

 reliability and algorithms and can think - after reading how ZFS is
 designed

 will understand that.


 When did you ever 'repeat' that in the first place? Can you provide a
 link, I don't recall seeing anyone say that ZFS is a toy.


 He's consistent in any case (a quick google search reveals this 2008
 message):

 http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg192926.html

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there may be some technical merits in his analysis. however  I have been
using zfs in production environments for a few years and know it scales very
well. Admittedly its in a solaris environment not BSD, but then he is on
about the  algorithms not the CPU architecture etc. In my experience the
performance is good on both intel and sparc enviroments. The more memory and
CPU the better as it is resource hungry. But then again it is doing a lot
more sophisticated stuff than plain old UFS. From an administration point of
view its very easy to use (especially compared to solstice and vinum) and
has a lot of cool features, that after a while you find yourself wondering
how you managed without them.

Having said all that, it remains on whether it will stay the course. I doubt
it will be around as long as ufs, as something better will come along in the
future I suspect (not convinced on btrfs yet), but one thing is for sure,
its set a new benchmark for filesystems
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compile error CURRENT-9

[Коньков Евгений]

Hello, Freebsd-questions.
I have commented out 'device bce' but still have error:

ld  -d -warn-common -r -d -o if_ath.kld if_ath.o if_ath_pci.o ah_osdep.o ah.o 
ah_regdomain.o ah_eeprom_v3.o ah_eeprom_v1.o ar5210_attach.o 
ar5210_beacon.o ar5210_interrupts.o ar5210_keycache.o ar5210_misc.o 
ar5210_phy.o ar5210_power.o ar5210_recv.o ar5210_reset.o ar5210_xmit.o 
ar5211_attach.o ar5211_beacon.o ar5211_interrupts.o ar5211_keycache.o 
ar5211_misc.o ar5211_phy.o ar5211_power.o ar5211_recv.o ar5211_reset.o 
ar5211_xmit.o ar5212_ani.o ar5212_attach.o ar5212_beacon.o ar5212_eeprom.o 
ar5212_gpio.o ar5212_interrupts.o ar5212_keycache.o ar5212_misc.o 
ar5212_phy.o ar5212_power.o ar5212_recv.o ar5212_reset.o ar5212_rfgain.o 
ar5212_xmit.o ar5111.o ar5112.o ar2413.o ar2425.o ar5413.o ah_eeprom_v14.o 
ah_eeprom_v4k.o ar5416_ani.o ar5416_attach.o ar5416_beacon.o ar5416_cal.o 
ar5416_cal_iq.o ar5416_cal_adcgain.o ar5416_cal_adcdc.o ar5416_eeprom.o 
ar5416_gpio.o ar5416_interrupts.o ar5416_keycache.o ar5416_misc.o 
ar5416_phy.o ar5416_power.o ar5416_recv.o ar5416_reset.o ar5416_xmit.o 
ar9160_attach.o ar9280.o ar9280_attach.o ar2133.o ar9285.o ar9285_reset.o 
ar9285_attach.o sample.o
: export_syms
awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_ath.kld  export_syms | xargs -J% 
objcopy % if_ath.kld
ld -Bshareable  -d -warn-common -o if_ath.ko.debug if_ath.kld
objcopy --only-keep-debug if_ath.ko.debug if_ath.ko.symbols
objcopy --strip-debug --add-gnu-debuglink=if_ath.ko.symbols if_ath.ko.debug 
if_ath.ko
=== bce (all)
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc   
-DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include 
/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v9/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq 
-finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param 
large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -g -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v
9  -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow 
-mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector 
-std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls 
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith 
-Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c 
/usr/src/sys/modules/bce/../../dev/bce/if_bce.c
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
/usr/src/sys/modules/bce/../../dev/bce/if_bce.c: In function 
'bce_fill_rx_chain':
@/sys/mbuf.h:412: warning: 'zone' may be used uninitialized in this function
@/sys/mbuf.h:412: note: 'zone' was declared here
*** Error code 1
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
3 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error

what I have missed?


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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[Peter Boosten]

On 15 nov 2010, at 20:37, Chris Rees wrote:

 On 15 November 2010 19:33, Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 
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 please elaborate
 
 look at archives. i really don't want to repeat the same many times.
 And anyone that actually have clue about what is computer, disk drive,
 reliability and algorithms and can think - after reading how ZFS is designed
 will understand that.
 
 When did you ever 'repeat' that in the first place? Can you provide a
 link, I don't recall seeing anyone say that ZFS is a toy.

He's consistent in any case (a quick google search reveals this 2008 message): 

http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg192926.html

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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[krad]

On 15 November 2010 20:10, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 20:33 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  
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  look at archives. i really don't want to repeat the same many times.
  And anyone that actually have clue about what is computer, disk drive,
  reliability and algorithms and can think - after reading how ZFS is
  designed will understand that.
 

 Sounds like FUD.

 Like the OP, I too am interested in the current state of ZFS. We've been
 following the threads as far as build 28, and I do indeed see positive
 improvement and continued development. However, is anyone that is
 actively involved in the project able to provide a snapshot opinion of
 the production readiness of ZFS for enterprise deployment?

 If the opinion is that ZFS is not ready for production, are there any
 technical explanations as to the efficacy or lack thereof rather than
 the above philosophical FUD which implores the OP to pour over massive
 archives (which can paint an inverse picture because the archives are
 usually filled with a higher number of issues than success stories --
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My gut feeling is no. I wouldn't put it on mission critical stuff yet. Its
not that I have had any major bad experiences (x fingers) but im not aware
of any major deployments of it in the wild. As a result I wouldnt feel safe
being the 1st 8)

What I would advise is to think carefully about what you actually need. If
you dont really need zfs features, then fine go with ufs, as you can always
migrate in the future. However if the features are useful to you and of
enough of a benefit to justify I would advise going for a Solaris platform
of some kind.

If you are doing it on a budget, go for openindiana, but if you have a some
budget, go for the safe option of solaris 10 u9.

It all really depends on your particular circumstances.

A few tips

put the os on its own zpool and the data on its own. That way its fairly
easy to migrate to another os in the future.

go big on ram, the more the better

go for more cores rather than core speed, as zfs will benefit a lot from
more threads (it was designed to run on coolthread archs which have 128+
virt cpus). Also enable hyperthreading  if on intel

look at using ssd for l2arc if you need performance, or are using dedup
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Re: compile error CURRENT-9

[Коньков Евгений]

Здравствуйте, Коньков.

Вы писали 15 ноября 2010 г., 22:25:49:

КЕ Hello, Freebsd-questions.
КЕ I have commented out 'device bce' but still have error:

КЕ ld  -d -warn-common -r -d -o if_ath.kld if_ath.o if_ath_pci.o
КЕ ah_osdep.o ah.o ah_regdomain.o ah_eeprom_v3.o ah_eeprom_v1.o
КЕ ar5210_attach.o ar5210_beacon.o ar5210_interrupts.o
КЕ ar5210_keycache.o ar5210_misc.o ar5210_phy.o ar5210_power.o ar521 
КЕ 0_recv.o ar5210_reset.o ar5210_xmit.o ar5211_attach.o
КЕ ar5211_beacon.o ar5211_interrupts.o ar5211_keycache.o
КЕ ar5211_misc.o ar5211_phy.o ar5211_power.o ar5211_recv.o
КЕ ar5211_reset.o ar5211_xmit.o ar5212_ani.o ar5212_attach.o
КЕ ar5212_beacon.o ar5212_eeprom.o ar5212_gpio.o
КЕ ar5212_interrupts.o ar5212_keycache.o ar5212_misc.o
КЕ ar5212_phy.o ar5212_power.o ar5212_recv.o ar5212_reset.o
КЕ ar5212_rfgain.o ar5212_xmit.o ar5111.o ar5112.o ar2413.o
КЕ ar2425.o ar5413.o ah_eeprom_v14.o ah_eeprom_v4k.o ar5416_ani.o
КЕ ar5416_attach.o ar5416_beacon.o ar5416_cal.o ar5416_cal_iq.o ar   
КЕ 5416_cal_adcgain.o ar5416_cal_adcdc.o ar5416_eeprom.o
КЕ ar5416_gpio.o ar5416_interrupts.o ar5416_keycache.o
КЕ ar5416_misc.o ar5416_phy.o ar5416_power.o ar5416_recv.o
КЕ ar5416_reset.o ar5416_xmit.o ar9160_attach.o ar9280.o
КЕ ar9280_attach.o ar2133.o ar9285.o ar9285_reset.o ar9285_attach.o 
sample.o
: export_syms
КЕ awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk if_ath.kld  export_syms |
КЕ xargs -J% objcopy % if_ath.kld
КЕ ld -Bshareable  -d -warn-common -o if_ath.ko.debug if_ath.kld
КЕ objcopy --only-keep-debug if_ath.ko.debug if_ath.ko.symbols
КЕ objcopy --strip-debug --add-gnu-debuglink=if_ath.ko.symbols if_ath.ko.debug 
if_ath.ko
=== bce (all)
КЕ cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE
КЕ -nostdinc   -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include
КЕ /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v9/opt_global.h -I. -I@
КЕ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param
КЕ inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000
КЕ -fno-common -g -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v9 
КЕ -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx
КЕ -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding
КЕ -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall
КЕ -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmi   
КЕ ssing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef
КЕ -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c
КЕ /usr/src/sys/modules/bce/../../dev/bce/if_bce.c
КЕ cc1: warnings being treated as errors
КЕ /usr/src/sys/modules/bce/../../dev/bce/if_bce.c: In function 
'bce_fill_rx_chain':
КЕ @/sys/mbuf.h:412: warning: 'zone' may be used uninitialized in this function
КЕ @/sys/mbuf.h:412: note: 'zone' was declared here
КЕ *** Error code 1
КЕ 1 error
КЕ *** Error code 2
КЕ 1 error
КЕ *** Error code 2
КЕ 3 errors
КЕ *** Error code 2
КЕ 1 error
КЕ *** Error code 2
КЕ 1 error

КЕ what I have missed?

with this options I have errors described above:
options RESTARTABLE_PANICS

How to force server to reboot when PAGE FAULT occour?


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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[Adam Vande More]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:

 Sounds like FUD.

 Like the OP, I too am interested in the current state of ZFS. We've been
 following the threads as far as build 28, and I do indeed see positive
 improvement and continued development. However, is anyone that is
 actively involved in the project able to provide a snapshot opinion of
 the production readiness of ZFS for enterprise deployment?

 If the opinion is that ZFS is not ready for production, are there any
 technical explanations as to the efficacy or lack thereof rather than
 the above philosophical FUD which implores the OP to pour over massive
 archives (which can paint an inverse picture because the archives are
 usually filled with a higher number of issues than success stories --
 which is true of nearly ANY mailing-list)?


You'll need to go over to freebsd-fs@ if you want a technical discussion.
All you'll get here is meaningless opinionated philosophical gibber with
little to no basis in reality.



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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[krad]

On 15 November 2010 20:42, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:

 Sounds like FUD.

 Like the OP, I too am interested in the current state of ZFS. We've been
 following the threads as far as build 28, and I do indeed see positive
 improvement and continued development. However, is anyone that is
 actively involved in the project able to provide a snapshot opinion of
 the production readiness of ZFS for enterprise deployment?

 If the opinion is that ZFS is not ready for production, are there any
 technical explanations as to the efficacy or lack thereof rather than
 the above philosophical FUD which implores the OP to pour over massive
 archives (which can paint an inverse picture because the archives are
 usually filled with a higher number of issues than success stories --
 which is true of nearly ANY mailing-list)?


 You'll need to go over to freebsd-fs@ if you want a technical discussion.
 All you'll get here is meaningless opinionated philosophical gibber with
 little to no basis in reality.



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 true, but well all know that politics influence our jobs and lives far more
than the absolute truth, so you cant just ignore it unfortunately. You get a
failure of some kind, then some clueless suit does some googling, puts 1 and
2 together and comes up with 7, and suddenly your in a hard place justifying
your choices.
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capabilities of ibg

[Коньков Евгений]

Hi

Intel(C) driver v1.8.4
igb0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=53bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,TSO4,LRO

capabilities=53bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,TSO4,LRO

standart driver
igb0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=1bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4

capabilities=101bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,VLAN_HWFILTER

Does igb intel driver can not do VLAN_HWCSUM?
What is HWFILTER?
Is this better to isntall Intel(C) driver or keep FBSD native driver?

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Re: About FreeBSD kernel newbies

[Fernando Apesteguía]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Fernando Apesteguía wrote:

 Hi all,

 I was wondering if anyone has considered the creation of  a kernel
 newbies mail list for FreeBSD.
 I am aware of two places where someone can ask questions about that:
 either freebsd-hackers@ or the FreeBSD Development forum
 at http://forums.freebsd.org.

 I've been following the Linux kernel newbies list for a while and I
 think it is very informative.

 Would it be good to have such a list?

 Can't say for sure myself, but certain points do spring to mind - mainly
 based upon the fact than 'BSD's are not Linux. The main difference that
 would apply is the separation in the Linux world between kernel development
 and userland. Some work on the kernel while others package distros, adding a
 userland to what kernel developers produce.

 FreeBSD is not Linux in that it is a complete operating system, kernel and
 userland are developed together and distributed as a complete unit. Since
 there is no separation between kernel and userland development maybe an

Actually, there is separation. Although they are shipped as a one complete
and integrated product, they do differ in the way they are developed.

 alternate proposal might be for people coming to FreeBSD from the Linux
 world to endeavor to learn and adjust to what has worked for the community
 well for many years now. In other words, leave the Linuxisms in Linux land
 and learn the FreeBSD-isms.

Yes, that's one way to do it. In fact, that's probably one of the most
straightforward
ways to jump from Linux to FreeBSD.


 The FreeBSD community does try and function as a meritocracy for a lofty
 goal. It may not be perfect, but it also does try and be open and look at
 new ideas when they come around. Things not immediately dismissed out of
 hand will be debated from the bottom up, and if by the time it percolates
 upwards to the top it has survived many a thrashing it may just be
 committed.

 So, no harm in proposing new ideas. Just keep in mind that many times such
 proposals have a limited lifetime and have actually been proposed before.
 The community may have bandied the idea about and decided not to pursue it.
 Then it is quickly forgotten until the next cycle comes around with some
 newcomer proposing the same thing again. It happens. Witness the Why Do You
 Have a Devil for a Mascot meme that continues to resurface periodically
 year after year. We got tired of that many years ago, but it just will not
 go away...  :-)

 So if the larger community and it's reasoned approach decides a proposal has
 merit for whatever number of supporting arguments, and idea might just take
 flight. Whatever I, as one individual, may think about any one idea/proposal
 it is the larger community in general that will decide.

It was just an idea. I don't really know if there is room for such
list. Maybe it is better
to ask questions (though they could have an 'obvious' answer) at
freebsd-hackers@
or freebsd-current@ as Robert suggested.

Regards.


 -Mike



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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[Matthew Seaman]

On 15/11/2010 20:33, krad wrote:
 My gut feeling is no. I wouldn't put it on mission critical stuff yet. Its
 not that I have had any major bad experiences (x fingers) but im not aware
 of any major deployments of it in the wild. As a result I wouldnt feel safe
 being the 1st 8)
 
 What I would advise is to think carefully about what you actually need. If
 you dont really need zfs features, then fine go with ufs, as you can always
 migrate in the future. However if the features are useful to you and of
 enough of a benefit to justify I would advise going for a Solaris platform
 of some kind.
 
 If you are doing it on a budget, go for openindiana, but if you have a some
 budget, go for the safe option of solaris 10 u9.
 

I don't entirely agree with this.  ZFS on FreeBSD is in good shape and
suitable for /some/ mission critical uses IMHO.   You will gain all the
benefits of reliability, maintainability and flexibility that ZFS provides.

However:

   * The versions of ZFS in RELEASE versions of FreeBSD aren't
 brilliantly performant:  you want recent 8.1-STABLE or above
 if your need is for speed.

   * FreeBSD itself doesn't have good support for being an iSCSI
 provider, consequently the iSCSI related functions in ZFS are
 not enabled.  Similarly SCSI-target mode is in need of a bit of
 love, and trying to use FreeBSD as a homebrew SAN over fibre
 channel doesn't really work.

   * ZFS (on any platform) is intrinsically slow for the sort of small
 random IOs generated by RDBMSes.  On the other hand, the data
 integrity and update consistency guarantees are really good news
 if your Database needs stability and correctness more than speed.

   * The file synch-ing guarantees provided by ZFS are entirely
 dependent on the behaviour of the underlying hardware -- if your
 disk lies to the OS about having committed data to non-volatile
 storage then nothing can really be promised.  Or, looked at from a
 different point of view: ZFS cannot make a silk purse out of a
 sow's ear: it works most effectively with server-grade SATA or SAS
 drives rather than commodity desktop hard drives.

Personally, I've converted to using a ZFS mirror pair of drives for
preference as my standard way to do a FreeBSD OS install for a general
purpose server.  Exceptions are mostly due to speed requirements.  Once
8.2-RELEASE hits the  shelves in January (well, approximately January)
ZFS performance in RELEASE will be seen to have improved markedly, and I
expect to be using ZFS pretty much exclusively for general purpose installs.

On the other hand, if you need to build some sort of network file
server,  then OpenIndiana or Solaris would be better choices with ZFS,
and are likely to remain better for some significant amount of time.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Is ZFS ready for prime time?

[David Brodbeck]

One problem I ran into is that the file sharing technologies in
FreeBSD have not kept up; I consider NFSv4 a requirement for sanely
sharing ZFS over a network, and FreeBSD's NFSv4 server is still under
heavy development and not yet production-ready.  That may not matter
for a backup server, though.
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Re: IPFW at startup.

[Ian Smith]

In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 337, Issue 2, Message: 26
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:52:41 -0800 Dave Robison da...@vicor.com wrote:

  I haven't seen someone use firewall_type as a path to the config file. 

It's not so uncommon.  Anyone who's based their ruleset on the handbook 
section on IPFW will likely be using this method, and Grant has used it 
correctly.  This is only applicable where $firewall_script is set to 
'/etc/rc.firewall', but that is the default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf

  If you check the default rc.firewall file, you will see several types of 
  default firewall settings, such as open and closed. You want to set 
  firewall_type in rc.conf to be open or whatever your firewall type 
  is in /etc/rc.firewall.

Please note the last section in rc.firewall, which specifically tests 
whether $firewall_type is a readable file, and if so, passes that file 
as an argument to ipfw(8) (qv).

*)
if [ -r ${firewall_type} ]; then
${fwcmd} ${firewall_flags} ${firewall_type}
fi
;;
esac

Also note that in this case, the file is not a shell script, but a set 
of arguments to the ipfw command.  Grant's set is in the correct format.

  You can probably get away with editing your existing rc.firewall to 
  include a firewall type, such as custom, then defining firewall_type 
  as custom in /etc/rc.conf.

You could, but it's not necessary.  In the olden days you more or less 
had to do that, but nowadays you can specify parameters for the client, 
simple and workstation types, so you can get a minimal reasonably safe 
and effective firewall going, at least for starters, just using rc.conf 
variables.  This also means you can avoid messing with rc.firewall, so 
that system updates will properly bring in any changes and additions.

The documentation for this is so far really only in /etc/rc.firewall 
itself and in /etc/defaults/rc.conf .. perhaps one day $someone will 
re-write the Handbook IPFW section; meanwhile ipfw(8) is definitive.

You can also start out using one of the builtin types, then save it to a 
file with 'ipfw list file', then modify things it there, add comments 
etc, then specify that file as firewall_type henceforth.  Or, as Chuck 
has shown, you can get really fancy and use some preprocessor :)

cheers, Ian

PS: Please don't top-post on FreeBSD lists, and if at all possible avoid 
posting multiple disclaimers, that are in any case entirely inapplicable 
to public list postings.
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Re: 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'

[b. f.]

Chris Brennan wrote:
...
My Hiccup as the subject suggests is about my Wireless Card.
I have been following the handbook (
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/config-network-setup.html) on how to use
64-bit Windows drivers coupled w/ ndisgen to get my wireless card working. I
got ndisgen to generate a kernel module but it immediately caused my laptop
to reboot when the kernel was loaded. This left me scratching my head. I
think I might need firmware (I remember having to extract firmware from the
driver for linux).

pciconf shows the following:

[root at BlackDragon [~]# pciconf -lv | grep -A3 0x4315
none8 at pci0:8:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x137c103c chip=0x431514e4
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
device = 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'
class  = network
[root at BlackDragon [~]#

The laptop is an HP dv2845SE and it's running FreebSD64-8.1. Let me know if
I missed anything.

I'm assuming that by FreebSD64, you mean the amd64 version of
FreeBSD.  Have you tried using a recent version of the native bwn(4)
driver, together with the net/bwn-firmware-kmod port, rather than
ndis(4)?


b.
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Re: 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'

[Chris Brennan]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:17 PM, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Chris Brennan wrote:
 ...
 My Hiccup as the subject suggests is about my Wireless Card.
 I have been following the handbook (
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/config-network-setup.html) on how to
 use
 64-bit Windows drivers coupled w/ ndisgen to get my wireless card working.
 I
 got ndisgen to generate a kernel module but it immediately caused my
 laptop
 to reboot when the kernel was loaded. This left me scratching my head. I
 think I might need firmware (I remember having to extract firmware from
 the
 driver for linux).
 
 pciconf shows the following:
 
 [root at BlackDragon [~]# pciconf -lv | grep -A3 0x4315
 none8 at pci0:8:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x137c103c chip=0x431514e4
 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'
 class  = network
 [root at BlackDragon [~]#
 
 The laptop is an HP dv2845SE and it's running FreebSD64-8.1. Let me know
 if
 I missed anything.

 I'm assuming that by FreebSD64, you mean the amd64 version of
 FreeBSD.  Have you tried using a recent version of the native bwn(4)
 driver, together with the net/bwn-firmware-kmod port, rather than
 ndis(4)?


 b.


Yes, by FreeBSD64 I am implying amd64, an oversight on my part. I was told
the native bwn/bwn-firmware-kmod non-functional currently. Was I misinformed
about this?
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Re: 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'

[b. f.]

On 11/16/10, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:17 PM, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Chris Brennan wrote:
 ...
 My Hiccup as the subject suggests is about my Wireless Card.
 I have been following the handbook (
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/config-network-setup.html) on how to
 use
 64-bit Windows drivers coupled w/ ndisgen to get my wireless card
  working.
 I
 got ndisgen to generate a kernel module but it immediately caused my
 laptop
 to reboot when the kernel was loaded. This left me scratching my head. I
 think I might need firmware (I remember having to extract firmware from
 the
 driver for linux).
 
 pciconf shows the following:
 
 [root at BlackDragon [~]# pciconf -lv | grep -A3 0x4315
 none8 at pci0:8:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x137c103c chip=0x431514e4
 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'
 class  = network
 [root at BlackDragon [~]#
 
 The laptop is an HP dv2845SE and it's running FreebSD64-8.1. Let me know
 if
 I missed anything.

 I'm assuming that by FreebSD64, you mean the amd64 version of
 FreeBSD.  Have you tried using a recent version of the native bwn(4)
 driver, together with the net/bwn-firmware-kmod port, rather than
 ndis(4)?


 b.


 Yes, by FreeBSD64 I am implying amd64, an oversight on my part. I was told
 the native bwn/bwn-firmware-kmod non-functional currently. Was I misinformed
 about this?


I don't use it myself, but I have seen exchanges on the mailing lists
from time to time that would suggest that it is working, at least for
some hardware.  The only PR that I can see in the database from
someone using a card similar to yours was a report of a problem that
only arose in a specific configuration, and that problem seems to have
been solved:

ttp://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/144724

However, you could ask weongyo@ (the developer who has done most of
the work on it) directly.  If you are feeling bold, you could try
9-CURRENT, where you will be able to use the latest versions of the
driver and associated wireless infrastructure.

b.
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Re: 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'

[b. f.]

On 11/16/10, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote:
...

 ttp://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/144724

The above should be http://...  , of course.

b.
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Re: 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'

[Chris Brennan]

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:02 AM, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 11/16/10, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote:
 ...
 
  ttp://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/144724

 The above should be http://...  , of course.

 b.


I've seen him elsewhere on the list so I will shoot him an e-mail then
(unless he responds to this thread directly, in which case I would interact
with him here :P) Thanks for the heads-up on this, much appreciated. This
will make using my laptop at the library so much easier when I need to work
on a paper now :D (provided it does work)
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Re: USB Hard Drive Dock

[Irene7999]

Bill Tillman wrote:
 
 I just purchased a setup which will allow me to access IDE and/or SATA
 drives through a USB port. Of course I was hoping for it to work with
 FreeBSD and in spite of the reviews which said it needed no Windows
 drivers as soon as I opened it up there was a CD with the drivers for
 Windows on it.
  
 When I hook this thing up to my FreeBSD server it shows up like this:
  
 Jul 31 15:06:29 FreeBSD1 root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x152d product
 0x2338 bus uhub1
 Jul 31 15:06:29 FreeBSD1 kernel: usbd_set_config_index: could not read
 device status: USB_ERR_SHORT_XFER
 Jul 31 15:06:29 FreeBSD1 kernel: ugen1.2: JMicron at usbus1
 Jul 31 15:06:29 FreeBSD1 kernel: umass0: MSC Bulk-Only Transfer on
 usbus1
 Jul 31 15:06:29 FreeBSD1 kernel: umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks =
 0x4000
 Jul 31 15:06:30 FreeBSD1 kernel: umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT
 READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status:
 SCSI Status Error
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status:
 Check Condition
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense:
 NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present)
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0
 lun 0
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: da0:    Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2
 device
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: da0: Attempt to query device size failed:
 NOT READY, Medium not present
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ
 CAPACITY(10). CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI
 Status Error
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status:
 Check Condition
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT
 READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present)
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ
 CAPACITY(10). CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI
 Status Error
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status:
 Check Condition
 Jul 31 15:06:31 FreeBSD1 kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT
 READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present)
  
 So apparently the FreeBSD server senses when this thing is connected but
 it cannot see the drive connected to it. BTW - The FreeBSD server only
 reports anything when I power up the drive on the device. So again I see
 there might be hope to access it.
  
 Of course I cannot mount anything as /dev/da0s1...etc are not there, only
 /dev/da0. The drive I'm attempting to mount was the main drive in another
 FreeBSD server I had working. The drive is ok and I can mount it using
 other methods. But this hot-swap USB method has some advantaged I'd like
 to use.
 
 
 
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Maybe a firewire hdd dock can help you:handshake:
http://www.espow.com/wholesale-sata-hdd-docking-station-for-mac-support-1394b-1394a-firewire-port.html
http://www.espow.com/wholesale-sata-hdd-docking-station-for-mac-support-1394b-1394a-firewire-port.html
 




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Re: openssl version - how to verify

[c0re]

Jerry, I'm not about that :) base openssl are OK. But I need proves
that it has got no security problems - it's external IT auditors
request.
And I'm interested how I can know what patchlevel there on base
openssl version and prove them (auditors) that freebsd base openssl
are not vulnerable.

2010/11/15 Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net:
 On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:40:27 +0300
 c0re nr1c...@gmail.com articulated:

 There are still too many broken ports with openssl from ports, I do
 not like debug it and really like to use base openssl, almost no
 difference.

 Might I suggest that if you are aware of ports that don't work
 correctly with the port's version of openssl that you file a PR against
 it. I have done so and succeeded in getting several patches issued to
 correct the problem. This problem will not go away by itself.

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