Re: Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots

2011-04-08 Thread Hiroki Sato
Hello,

dave jones s.dave.jo...@gmail.com wrote
  in BANLkTikR-GL9LFkTL6f=pm5vcazaftk...@mail.gmail.com:

s. It seems that allbsd.org is up, but I can't find the HEAD snapshots,
s. only RELENG.
s. Would you like to build HEAD snapshots? Thank you very much.

 Building snapshots of HEAD and RELENG_[67] are temporarily disabled
 because a maintenance work is now in progress.  They will be back on
 the page in the next week.

-- Hiroki


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vmware-tools-freebsd No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5.

2011-04-08 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and
I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver
for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM
runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine.

Any idea how to solve this? Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in
9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as
/.4 while it is 7.6.5?

Thanks

matthias
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Re: vmware-tools-freebsd No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5.

2011-04-08 Thread Dimitry Andric

On 2011-04-08 10:42, Matthias Apitz wrote:

I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and
I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver
for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM
runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine.

Any idea how to solve this? Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in
9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as
/.4 while it is 7.6.5?


X.org 7.5 already has VMware drivers, so you can just install the
x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse and x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware ports.

Alternatively, run make config in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers, check the
VMMOUSE and VMWARE entries, and rebuild this meta-port.

Btw, I have no idea why these drivers are not enabled by default.  They
would seem very useful in a default X.org installation.
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Re: vmware-tools-freebsd No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5.

2011-04-08 Thread David Demelier

On 08/04/2011 12:17, Dimitry Andric wrote:

On 2011-04-08 10:42, Matthias Apitz wrote:

I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and
I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver
for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM
runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine.

Any idea how to solve this? Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in
9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as
/.4 while it is 7.6.5?


X.org 7.5 already has VMware drivers, so you can just install the
x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse and x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware ports.

Alternatively, run make config in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers, check the
VMMOUSE and VMWARE entries, and rebuild this meta-port.

Btw, I have no idea why these drivers are not enabled by default. They
would seem very useful in a default X.org installation.


Probably because a lot of people do not use VMware products.


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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Carmel
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:56:00 +0300
Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:

 It may void the warranty yes, but dd-wrt has more features than stock
 firmware.

That is like saying A is better than B without divulging any
specific information. It is just a hollow statement. Either point me to
the specific documentation explaining the differences in detail or
explain them to me yourself.

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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 13:55, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:56:00 +0300
 Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:

  It may void the warranty yes, but dd-wrt has more features than stock
  firmware.

 That is like saying A is better than B without divulging any
 specific information. It is just a hollow statement. Either point me to
 the specific documentation explaining the differences in detail or
 explain them to me yourself.


I did not know I needed a spoon to feed someone, but anyway, the main
details are at http://dd-wrt.com/site/content/about
The finer details are only visible once you look at what you can do with
factory firmware, then flash your router with dd-wrt and compare. FYI, you
can always revert to factory firmware if dd-wrt does not please you.

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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Arthur Chance

On 04/07/11 15:32, Carmel wrote:

Odhiambo, please don't CC me. I don't need multiple copies of the same
post.


CCing the original poster is standard etiquette on FreeBSD mailing 
lists. Most lists are open to anybody to mail to without being signed 
up, so when replying there's no way of knowing whether or not the 
questioner will see a reply that only goes to the list. This is 
especially true of freebsd-questions.


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Re: vmware-tools-freebsd No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5.

2011-04-08 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, April 08, 2011 a las 12:17:03PM +0200, Dimitry Andric escribió:

 On 2011-04-08 10:42, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and
 I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver
 for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM
 runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine.
 
 Any idea how to solve this? Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in
 9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as
 /.4 while it is 7.6.5?
 
 X.org 7.5 already has VMware drivers, so you can just install the
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse and x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware ports.
 
 Alternatively, run make config in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers, check the
 VMMOUSE and VMWARE entries, and rebuild this meta-port.

Dimitry, 

Thanks for your kind   fast answer; does this also mean that I could
completely get rid of the VMware' vmware-tools-freebsd? I'm using on the
8-CURRENT system the emulators/open-vom-tools and will install them in
the 9-CURRENT too.

Thanks again

matthias

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gmirror and normal users?

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Hilton
Should a normal user be able to successfully:

 $ gmirror remove /dev/mirror/gm0 /dev/ad6

Or is this something that's just unlocked because I haven't mounted the drive 
yet?

$ uname -a
FreeBSD deathstar.example.com 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #1: Wed Apr  6 
13:09:37 EDT 2011 root@dagobah:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
$ id
uid=1001(chris) gid=1001(chris) 
groups=1001(chris),0(wheel),5(operator),1000(users)


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Surge 2011 CFP Deadline Extended

2011-04-08 Thread Katherine Jeschke
OmniTI is pleased to announce that the CFP deadline for Surge 2011, the
Scalability and Performance Conference, (Baltimore: Sept 28-30, 2011) has
been extended to 23:59:59 EDT, April 17, 2011. The event focuses upon case
studies that demonstrate successes (and failures) in Web applications and
Internet architectures. New this year: Hack Day and Unconference on
September 28th.

For information about topics: http://omniti.com/surge/2011. Get inspired by
the 2010 sessions, now online at (http://omniti.com/surge/2010)

2010 attendees compared Surge to the early days of Velocity, and our
speakers received 3.5-4 out of 4 stars for quality of presentation and
quality of content! Nearly 90% of first-year attendees are planning to come
again in 2011.

For more information about the CFP or sponsorship of the event, please
contact us: surge (AT) omniti (DOT) com.


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Re: gmirror and normal users?

2011-04-08 Thread Ivan Voras

On 08/04/2011 16:43, Christopher Hilton wrote:

Should a normal user be able to successfully:

  $ gmirror remove /dev/mirror/gm0 /dev/ad6

Or is this something that's just unlocked because I haven't mounted the drive 
yet?

$ uname -a
FreeBSD deathstar.example.com 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #1: Wed Apr  6 
13:09:37 EDT 2011 root@dagobah:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
$ id
uid=1001(chris) gid=1001(chris) 
groups=1001(chris),0(wheel),5(operator),1000(users)


It is because of the operator group. Normal users which are not in 
this groups would not be able to do it.


If a user can communicate with the device (i.e. has at least reads 
rights to it), he can send GEOM commands to it. The operator group has 
read permissions by default:


lara:~ ll /dev/mirror/
total 0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 150  8 Apr 16:55 bla

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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Carmel
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:03:57 +0300
Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:

 On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 13:55, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:56:00 +0300
  Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:
 
   It may void the warranty yes, but dd-wrt has more features than
   stock firmware.
 
  That is like saying A is better than B without divulging any
  specific information. It is just a hollow statement. Either point
  me to the specific documentation explaining the differences in
  detail or explain them to me yourself.
 
 
 I did not know I needed a spoon to feed someone, but anyway, the main
 details are at http://dd-wrt.com/site/content/about
 The finer details are only visible once you look at what you can do
 with factory firmware, then flash your router with dd-wrt and
 compare. FYI, you can always revert to factory firmware if dd-wrt
 does not please you.

That seems like a lot of work for a potential zero gain. I really don't
see any purpose is taking the time and a perfectly good router out of
commission to just experiment. Based on the simple concept of, If it
ain't broke, don't fix it, I think I will leave it alone.

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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Carmel
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:51:41 +0100
Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org articulated:

 On 04/07/11 15:32, Carmel wrote:
  Odhiambo, please don't CC me. I don't need multiple copies of the
  same post.
 
 CCing the original poster is standard etiquette on FreeBSD mailing 
 lists. Most lists are open to anybody to mail to without being signed 
 up, so when replying there's no way of knowing whether or not the 
 questioner will see a reply that only goes to the list. This is 
 especially true of freebsd-questions.

1) I have posted several times on this list and only received CC's on
two of them that I can recall. Obviously your standard is not so
standard.

2) I placed a very clear notice at the bottom of my post(s). Many
people would consider that a clue as to my desire to receive multiple
copies of the same document.

3) Perhaps it is only me; however, most of the major lists that I
employ all require a registration by the poster prior to being allowed
to post.

4) I have seen several posts where the OP requested to be CC'd because
they were not registered members of the list. Obviously, they were
aware of the necessity of being CC'd or reading the archives in order
to review any posts to their request. Now, is someone is just so plain
stupid that they are not aware of that simple fact, then they are too
stupid to be posting to begin with.

5) If you noticed, I asked Odhiambo very nicely not to include me in a
CC. I am sure he meant well; however, the inevitable destruction of
electrons in the transmission of the superfluous document could have
been avoided.

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Re: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Maciej Milewski
Friday 08 of April 2011 17:05:51 Carmel napisał(a):
 On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:03:57 +0300
 
 Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:
  On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 13:55, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:56:00 +0300
   
   Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:
It may void the warranty yes, but dd-wrt has more features than
stock firmware.
   
   That is like saying A is better than B without divulging any
   specific information. It is just a hollow statement. Either point
   me to the specific documentation explaining the differences in
   detail or explain them to me yourself.
  
  I did not know I needed a spoon to feed someone, but anyway, the main
  details are at http://dd-wrt.com/site/content/about
  The finer details are only visible once you look at what you can do
  with factory firmware, then flash your router with dd-wrt and
  compare. FYI, you can always revert to factory firmware if dd-wrt
  does not please you.
 
 That seems like a lot of work for a potential zero gain. I really don't
 see any purpose is taking the time and a perfectly good router out of
 commission to just experiment. Based on the simple concept of, If it
 ain't broke, don't fix it, I think I will leave it alone.

In some circumstances it's worth. Not everyone needs anything above stock 
firmware but some funcionalities are really useful. Sometime ago it was that 
stock firmware has issues with their wireless chipsets and waiting for the 
manufacturer update was very long - using alternative firmware helped a lot 
that time.

Does stock firmware support openvpn client?
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/VPN_%28the_easy_way%29_v24%2B
What about hotspot functionality? Does stock firmware support it?
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Chillispot
Monthly/daily usage statistics etc. for people who have some limits on the 
internet access? I think there could be more things that are useful for some 
people.

Maciej
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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Jon Radel

On 4/8/11 11:21 AM, Carmel wrote:


On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:51:41 +0100
Arthur Chancefree...@qeng-ho.org  articulated:


On 04/07/11 15:32, Carmel wrote:

Odhiambo, please don't CC me. I don't need multiple copies of the
same post.


CCing the original poster is standard etiquette on FreeBSD mailing
lists. Most lists are open to anybody to mail to without being signed
up, so when replying there's no way of knowing whether or not the
questioner will see a reply that only goes to the list. This is
especially true of freebsd-questions.


1) I have posted several times on this list and only received CC's on
two of them that I can recall. Obviously your standard is not so
standard.


That's the nice thing about standards, there are so many of them to 
choose from.




2) I placed a very clear notice at the bottom of my post(s). Many
people would consider that a clue as to my desire to receive multiple
copies of the same document.


Expecting people to actually read and react to your disclaimernow 
that's *not* standard, given the wild proliferation of meaningless 
disclaimers necessitated by current thinking on various liability matters.




3) Perhaps it is only me; however, most of the major lists that I
employ all require a registration by the poster prior to being allowed
to post.


Try to be friendly and helpful to non-subscribers...much too old school 
for a modern dude like you, it appears.




4) I have seen several posts where the OP requested to be CC'd because
they were not registered members of the list. Obviously, they were
aware of the necessity of being CC'd or reading the archives in order
to review any posts to their request. Now, is someone is just so plain
stupid that they are not aware of that simple fact, then they are too
stupid to be posting to begin with.


You're conflating ignorance and stupidity.  Not really the same thing. 
Shall we have a rousing discussion as to whether this is ignorant or 
stupid of you?


Feh!



5) If you noticed, I asked Odhiambo very nicely not to include me in a
CC. I am sure he meant well; however, the inevitable destruction of
electrons in the transmission of the superfluous document could have
been avoided.



If you'd just shaken your head and gone away quietly, instead of making 
your numbered list and sharing with us all, a lot more electrons would 
have gone on to have happy, productive lives doing something useful. 
But, no, you had to move up the heat death of the universe by 3 seconds.


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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 18:05, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:03:57 +0300
 Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:

  On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 13:55, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
   On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:56:00 +0300
   Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:
  
It may void the warranty yes, but dd-wrt has more features than
stock firmware.
  
   That is like saying A is better than B without divulging any
   specific information. It is just a hollow statement. Either point
   me to the specific documentation explaining the differences in
   detail or explain them to me yourself.
  
  
  I did not know I needed a spoon to feed someone, but anyway, the main
  details are at http://dd-wrt.com/site/content/about
  The finer details are only visible once you look at what you can do
  with factory firmware, then flash your router with dd-wrt and
  compare. FYI, you can always revert to factory firmware if dd-wrt
  does not please you.

 That seems like a lot of work for a potential zero gain. I really don't
 see any purpose is taking the time and a perfectly good router out of
 commission to just experiment. Based on the simple concept of, If it
 ain't broke, don't fix it, I think I will leave it alone.


One day, when you come to appreciate the power of Unix (open Source), you;ll
wish you tried dd-wrt earlier (now!) :-)


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GoToMeeting like functionality

2011-04-08 Thread Adam Vande More
I have need of hosting a video presentation.  Is there anything compatible
FreeBSD in this area, or am I going to have to find an alternative laptop?
Something like a view-only VNC connection sharing will not work.  I need it
to be easy and fast for these viewers, all of which have likely never heard
of Linux let alone FreeBSD.

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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread kcrhyst
Ok
Ce message a été envoyé depuis un terminal BlackBerry de Bouygues Telecom

-Original Message-
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:55:57 
To: FreeBSDfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:56:00 +0300
Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com articulated:

 It may void the warranty yes, but dd-wrt has more features than stock
 firmware.

That is like saying A is better than B without divulging any
specific information. It is just a hollow statement. Either point me to
the specific documentation explaining the differences in detail or
explain them to me yourself.

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FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-08 Thread Sascha Vieweg
As a curious beginner I am running FreeBSD on VMWare Fusion 3.1.2 
on a MacBook Pro 13'' i5, and I want to do two things on the 
normal (startup) console:


(1) use my apple keyboard, especially, scroll through console 
output


(2) have a screen resolution of at least 800x600.

Both things seem to be no particular problem in X11, however, I 
cannot find advices for the normal console.


And: does anybody know what vertical and horizontal refresh rates 
my VMWare display have? According to the user handbook I need to 
specify this information in the X11 config file -- the current X11 
display does not look very sharp.


Thanks for help
*S*

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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Jon Radel j...@radel.com wrote:


 That's the nice thing about standards, there are so many of them to choose
 from.



 2) I placed a very clear notice at the bottom of my post(s). Many
 people would consider that a clue as to my desire to receive multiple
 copies of the same document.


 Expecting people to actually read and react to your disclaimernow
 that's *not* standard, given the wild proliferation of meaningless
 disclaimers necessitated by current thinking on various liability matters.



 3) Perhaps it is only me; however, most of the major lists that I
 employ all require a registration by the poster prior to being allowed
 to post.


 Try to be friendly and helpful to non-subscribers...much too old school for
 a modern dude like you, it appears.



 4) I have seen several posts where the OP requested to be CC'd because
 they were not registered members of the list. Obviously, they were
 aware of the necessity of being CC'd or reading the archives in order
 to review any posts to their request. Now, is someone is just so plain
 stupid that they are not aware of that simple fact, then they are too
 stupid to be posting to begin with.


 You're conflating ignorance and stupidity.  Not really the same thing.
 Shall we have a rousing discussion as to whether this is ignorant or stupid
 of you?

 Feh!



 5) If you noticed, I asked Odhiambo very nicely not to include me in a
 CC. I am sure he meant well; however, the inevitable destruction of
 electrons in the transmission of the superfluous document could have
 been avoided.


 If you'd just shaken your head and gone away quietly, instead of making
 your numbered list and sharing with us all, a lot more electrons would have
 gone on to have happy, productive lives doing something useful. But, no, you
 had to move up the heat death of the universe by 3 seconds.


In addition to these excellent points, it's much easier for someone wishing
not to receive 2 emails on the same topic(seriously, what's the big deal?
 -- retorical ?) to handle this via procmail/filters/etc rather than placing
the burden on the community at large to accomodate the OP's wishes.

I'll do my best not to reply to the OP in future in this case, as I
personally don't wish to do their work for them and I'd hate to inconvience
them with multiple emails.

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Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Hilton

On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sascha Vieweg wrote:

 As a curious beginner I am running FreeBSD on VMWare Fusion 3.1.2 on a 
 MacBook Pro 13'' i5, and I want to do two things on the normal (startup) 
 console:
 
 (1) use my apple keyboard, especially, scroll through console output
 
 (2) have a screen resolution of at least 800x600.
 
 Both things seem to be no particular problem in X11, however, I cannot find 
 advices for the normal console.
 
 And: does anybody know what vertical and horizontal refresh rates my VMWare 
 display have? According to the user handbook I need to specify this 
 information in the X11 config file -- the current X11 display does not look 
 very sharp.
 
 Thanks for help
 *S*


You should be able find the screen dimensions for that MacBook Pro somewhere on 
the net. If my memory is correct and it's like my 13 acrylic MacBook then it 
will be something either 1280x800 or, less likely, 1280x720. I'm really old so 
I use an config file in the standard location: /etc/X11/xorg.conf configuration 
file to control X. If I understand correctly this is not longer strictly 
necessary. You can generate a base config by running:

 # X -configure

That will write a file: xorg.conf.new into the current directory. For monitor 
setting I've never found anything on VMware Fusion, or the MacBook line that 
gives those numbers. I've been using:

Section Monitor
Identifier  Apple MacBook Pro A1286 Display
VendorName  Apple
HorizSync   27.0-86.0
VertRefresh 50.0-72.0
Modeline 1440x900 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync
Modeline 1280x800 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828
EndSection

I'm using the Vesa Driver rather than the native vmware one so I'm pretty sure 
that the MacBook is actually handling the display settings. Again, there are 
instructions on the net for hacking xorg.conf specifically for VMWare Fusion 
and or Parallels to get a crisp display on a FreeBSD VM on a Mac.

-

I haven't found a way to map a key to Scroll Lock. I would imagine that the 
syscons driver is the place to look.

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Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Arthur Chance

On 04/08/11 16:21, Carmel wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:51:41 +0100
Arthur Chancefree...@qeng-ho.org  articulated:


On 04/07/11 15:32, Carmel wrote:

Odhiambo, please don't CC me. I don't need multiple copies of the
same post.


CCing the original poster is standard etiquette on FreeBSD mailing
lists. Most lists are open to anybody to mail to without being signed
up, so when replying there's no way of knowing whether or not the
questioner will see a reply that only goes to the list. This is
especially true of freebsd-questions.


1) I have posted several times on this list and only received CC's on
two of them that I can recall. Obviously your standard is not so
standard.


Well, it's not an ISO or IETF standard, that I'll admit. However, if you 
take a look at the article on getting the best out of -questions


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html#AEN206

(which is one click away from the Mailing List Etiquette section of the 
Mailing List FAQ)


section 8.6 starts:

 start quote 
Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and 
to FreeBSD-questions.

 end quote 


2) I placed a very clear notice at the bottom of my post(s). Many
people would consider that a clue as to my desire to receive multiple
copies of the same document.


My MUA (Thunderbird) greys out signature blocks, some other mailers also 
de-emphasise them. This and the fact that most sig blocks are just chaff 
means they tend not to get read. That's unfortunate on the odd occasions 
they have significant content.



3) Perhaps it is only me; however, most of the major lists that I
employ all require a registration by the poster prior to being allowed
to post.


Many lists do, the FBSD lists tend not to. From the FAQ, note the final 
paragraph.


 start quote 
1.3. Are the FreeBSD mailing lists open for anyone to participate?

Again, this depends on charter of each individual list. Please read the 
charter of a mailing list before you post to it, and respect it when you 
post. This will help everyone to have a better experience with the lists.


If after reading the above lists, you still do not know which mailing 
list to post a question to, you will probably want to post to 
freebsd-questions (but see below, first).


Also note that the mailing lists have traditionally been open to 
postings from non-subscribers. This has been a deliberate choice, to 
help make joining the FreeBSD community an easier process, and to 
encourage open sharing of ideas. However, due to past abuse by some 
individuals, certain lists now have a policy where postings from 
non-subscribers must be manually screened to ensure that they are 
appropriate.

 end quote 


4) I have seen several posts where the OP requested to be CC'd because
they were not registered members of the list. Obviously, they were
aware of the necessity of being CC'd or reading the archives in order
to review any posts to their request. Now, is someone is just so plain
stupid that they are not aware of that simple fact, then they are too
stupid to be posting to begin with.


Are they stupid? No. Are they unfamiliar with the way things are done 
round here? Quite possibly. I think you'll find that many of the people 
who do that are first time users or possible future users, often coming 
from a Linux background and/or used to closed lists. With luck, as 
people start using FBSD seriously they'll also take some time to read 
the FAQs.


[For lurkers reading this, if you haven't read the Mailing List FAQ 
you'll find it at


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/

]


5) If you noticed, I asked Odhiambo very nicely not to include me in a
CC. I am sure he meant well; however, the inevitable destruction of
electrons in the transmission of the superfluous document could have
been avoided.


If you interpreted my remark as criticising your politeness, I 
apologise. That was not the intention.


Oh, and speaking as an ex-physicist, if electrons are being destroyed in 
transmission I'd *seriously* worry about your ISP. Either they've got a 
source of positrons or they've got radioactives that undergo electron 
capture. Either way I wouldn't want to be anywhere near their kit. Gamma 
rays are not good for you. :-)


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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Bryan H.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
 On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Bryan H. wrote:
 If you're just looking for a new router, I would highly recommend the
 Linksys WRT160NL.  I got mine refurbished from Cisco's store[1], and
 flashed it with dd-wrt[2] (which was incredibly easy, just search for
 the router in dd-wrt's router database, and follow the directions),
 and I'm very satisfied with the performance.

 While you're mentioning a solid wireless router with a good history, it's no 
 longer being manufactured.  The replacement is an Linksys E2100L, which is 
 very nearly the same thing as a WRT160NL, but has twice the RAM:

  http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=73986
  http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/linksys/e2100l

 Perhaps my only complaint is that the wired ports are not gigabit.
 Not a major problem for me at the moment, but it may be a deal-breaker
 for you.

 Agreed, a good point.  To get gigabit, I believe you'd need to hit up either 
 the E3200L or E4200 mentioned in $Subject

 Regards,
 --
 -Chuck



Ah, I was unaware that it had been discontinued, perhaps that's the
reason for the (relatively) low cost.  ;-)

As for dd-wrt, I personally find the extra features (like the built-in
OpenVPN client and the xbox-kaid) to be useful for my own personal
needs.

If the stock firmware fills your needs, then there's no reason you
would *have* to flash with a third-party firmware.  Although, flashing
that particular model was, in my experience, about as obtrusive as it
would have been flashing the router with an updated firmware from the
manufacturer.  Very easy to do.

Thanks,
Bryan
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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi--

On Apr 8, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Bryan H. wrote:
 Ah, I was unaware that it had been discontinued, perhaps that's the
 reason for the (relatively) low cost.  ;-)

Yes, although a new E2100L is much than $20 more than the refurb'ed 160NL.

 As for dd-wrt, I personally find the extra features (like the built-in
 OpenVPN client and the xbox-kaid) to be useful for my own personal
 needs.

Indeed, although having the option to use dd-wrt (or openwrt) is helpful if the 
vendor is slow to update their stock firmware in the case of a significant bug 
or security issue.

 If the stock firmware fills your needs, then there's no reason you
 would *have* to flash with a third-party firmware.  Although, flashing
 that particular model was, in my experience, about as obtrusive as it
 would have been flashing the router with an updated firmware from the
 manufacturer.  Very easy to do.

Agreed.  I flashed mine with both the lasted vendor firmware and dd-wrt version 
to compare and saved a working config from each, but I'm currently running with 
the vendor's version for now.  I have a FreeBSD box configured as the DMZ host 
which does dyndns updates and used to do OpenVPN.  The first I'm still using, 
the second I don't need to, but if I did, I'd probably move to having the 
router do it with the dd-wrt firmware instead.

Regards,
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Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router

2011-04-08 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Apr 8, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Yes, although a new E2100L is much than $20 more than the refurb'ed 160NL.


Hmm, substitute: isn't much than $20 more...

-C

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
 
 section 8.6 starts:
 
  start quote 
 Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and
 to FreeBSD-questions.
  end quote 

I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do *not*
need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have yet to see
anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the
list.

I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the
list a good reason to do otherwise.

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chris Rees
On 8 Apr 2011 20:25, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
 
  section 8.6 starts:
 
   start quote 
  Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and
  to FreeBSD-questions.
   end quote 

 I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do *not*
 need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have yet to see
 anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the
 list.

While you make a valid point, how would one complain about not receiving an
email?

Chris
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SSHD Strangeness

2011-04-08 Thread Scott Ballantyne
I've never seen this before, but when ssh'ing to my server today, I
got:

ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed

I was able to log in using my vendors KVM access, and didn't see
anything particularly odd. I hadn't changed anything. I restarted
sshd, but that didn't help.

The log files show hundreds of 'login failures' from the script
kiddies, but that is typical.

Trying again a couple of hours later, and I can ssh just fine. No
changes, nothing.

Has anyone seen this, or knows what is going on?

Thanks
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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 08 April 2011:
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
  
  section 8.6 starts:
  
   start quote 
  Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and
  to FreeBSD-questions.
   end quote 
 
 I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do *not*
 need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have yet to see
 anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the
 list.
 
 I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the
 list a good reason to do otherwise.
 
 -- 
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+1 (I replied, cluttering up inboxes all over freebsdland)

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:30:25PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
 On 8 Apr 2011 20:25, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 
  I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do
  *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have yet
  to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail
  from the list.
 
 While you make a valid point, how would one complain about not
 receiving an email?

Did you overlook the words in addition to the mail from the list?

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 12:34:24PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 +1 (I replied, cluttering up inboxes all over freebsdland)

You didn't CC me directly, though, for which I'm grateful.

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Re: SSHD Strangeness

2011-04-08 Thread Robison, Dave

is your host ip denied by /etc/hosts.allow?

On 04/08/2011 12:22, Scott Ballantyne wrote:

I've never seen this before, but when ssh'ing to my server today, I
got:

ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed

I was able to log in using my vendors KVM access, and didn't see
anything particularly odd. I hadn't changed anything. I restarted
sshd, but that didn't help.

The log files show hundreds of 'login failures' from the script
kiddies, but that is typical.

Trying again a couple of hours later, and I can ssh just fine. No
changes, nothing.

Has anyone seen this, or knows what is going on?

Thanks
Scott



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Re: SSHD Strangeness

2011-04-08 Thread Matthias Apitz
El dia Friday, April 08, 2011 a las 12:53:05PM -0700, Robison, Dave escribio:

 is your host ip denied by /etc/hosts.allow?

Dave,
Don't top post!

 
 On 04/08/2011 12:22, Scott Ballantyne wrote:
  I've never seen this before, but when ssh'ing to my server today, I
  got:
 
  ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed

To the OP: What ssh -vv ... says about the problem?

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Carmel
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:11:52 -0600
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated:

 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
  
  section 8.6 starts:
  
   start quote 
  Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
  and to FreeBSD-questions.
   end quote 
 
 I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do
 *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have yet
 to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail
 from the list.
 
 I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the
 list a good reason to do otherwise.

Chad, it is common sense thinking like that, that will inevitable get
you chastised.

By the way, did you notice I directed a polite, one sentence directive
towards Odhiambo. Suddenly, every buttinsky crawls out of the woodwork,
sans any factual input on my original post and hijacks this thread
championing their own views on replying to posts. I have no problem
with that as long as they start a new thread, being sure to CC each
other and thereby waste their time discussing it among themselves. To
hijack another thread displays no only their lack of basic posting
etiquette, but their narcissism.

It is a shame when individuals like, but not limited to, Maciej
Milewski, Chuck Swiger, Bryan H. and even Odhiambo contribute useful
information only to be over shadowed by those other morons.

Absolutely pathetic.

I was going to CC all those who argued so feverishly in favor of the
protocol, but then common sense and plain decency got the better of me.

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chris Rees
On 8 April 2011 20:28, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:30:25PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
 On 8 Apr 2011 20:25, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 
  I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do
  *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have yet
  to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail
  from the list.

 While you make a valid point, how would one complain about not
 receiving an email?

 Did you overlook the words in addition to the mail from the list?


My bad...

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 8 April 2011 16:10, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:
 By the way, did you notice I directed a polite, one sentence directive
 towards Odhiambo. Suddenly, every buttinsky crawls out of the woodwork,
 sans any factual input on my original post and hijacks this thread

Maybe you would be better served by not using a _public_
mailing list if you don't want other people to reply to your
_public_ postings.

Just a hint.

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
  
  section 8.6 starts:
  
   start quote 
  Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and
  to FreeBSD-questions.
   end quote 
 
 I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do *not*
 need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have yet to see
 anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the
 list.
 
 I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the
 list a good reason to do otherwise.

You seem to miss one crucial fact:  Not all the people who write to
this list are subscribed to it.  They will not see any replies directed
only to the list.  It is for their benefit that that rule exists.





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Re: SSHD Strangeness

2011-04-08 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 8 April 2011 15:22, Scott Ballantyne s...@ssr.com wrote:
 I've never seen this before, but when ssh'ing to my server today, I
 got:

 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed

Was this multiple log-in failures receiving the same
error message?

 is this log-in happening across the internet or is
this on your local network?

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Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Hilton

On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Sascha Vieweg wrote:

 As a curious beginner I am running FreeBSD on VMWare Fusion 3.1.2 on a 
 MacBook Pro 13'' i5, and I want to do two things on the normal (startup) 
 console:
 
 (1) use my apple keyboard, especially, scroll through console output
 

The Apple Keyboard should just work. The FreeBSD console has a special mode 
where you can scroll back and forth in console output after hitting Scroll 
Lock. I'm just not sure what key on the Apple Keyboard VMware maps to Scroll 
Lock.

 (2) have a screen resolution of at least 800x600.

To start, the X log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log file is a good source of 
information about what X is doing if you are trying to tune things.

Getting a good screen resolution should just be a matter of setting the refresh 
rates to match your monitor. You may be able to put any values you like in 
there since your screen and video adapter are virtual. All of this gets 
configured in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I believe it's considered gauche to hand 
configure this anymore but since many modern displays, the Apple laptops 
included, don't conform to the VESA standard modes it's helpful to be able to 
tune things by hand. The problem is compounded by the fact that again, in 
VMware you probably aren't talking to the real hardware. Any modern hardware 
should just tell the X server what it's Sync and Refresh rates are.

One final tip: Check the amount of VideoRam that VMware assigned to the virtual 
machine. I noticed that it was a little skint at 2Mb or something and I bumped 
it up to something larger than 8Mbso I could have a  1920x1080x24bpp display. 

Here's my xorg.conf file which I started on an Acrylic MacBook running 
Parallels and them moved to and retuned for a unibody 15 MacBook Pro. I'm 
following up my first post since I revisited this file this afternoon to fix a 
couple of issues that I had worked around. My box is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE built 
from sources on 4/6/2011. I'm running xorg-7.5.1 from ports



Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  extmod
Load  record
Load  dbe
Load  glx
Load  dri
Load  dri2
Load  vmmouse
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  vmmouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Apple MacBook Pro A1286 Display
VendorName  Apple
HorizSync   27.0-86.0  ## These shouldn't matter
VertRefresh 50.0-72.0  ## 

## 15 MacBook Pro
Modeline 1440x900 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 -HSync +Vsync

## 13 MacBook and possibly 13 MacBook Pro
Modeline 1280x800 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  VMware Legacy Emulated SVGA II Adapter
Driver  vmwlegacy
VendorName  VMware
BoardName   Legacy Emulated SVGA II Adapter
BusID   PCI:0:15:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device VMware Legacy Emulated SVGA II Adapter
MonitorApple MacBook Pro A1286 Display


## Purge the display modes that I don't need from here.

SubSection Display
Viewport0 0
Depth   24
Modes   1440x900 ## 15 MacBook Pro
Modes   1280x800 ## 13 MacBook/MacBook Pro
EndSubSection
EndSection


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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 11:15:11PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
   
   section 8.6 starts:
   
    start quote 
   Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and
   to FreeBSD-questions.
    end quote 
  
  I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do *not*
  need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have yet to see
  anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to the mail from the
  list.
  
  I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the
  list a good reason to do otherwise.
 
 You seem to miss one crucial fact:  Not all the people who write to
 this list are subscribed to it.  They will not see any replies directed
 only to the list.  It is for their benefit that that rule exists.

You seem to fail to realize that it's possible to CC someone who isn't on
the list, but not CC someone who *is* on the list.  That would be why
people who aren't members of the list say thinks like please CC me,
while people who are members occasionally say please don't send
duplicates to me.

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Re: Difficulty installing 8.2 stable.

2011-04-08 Thread lottamiata
Addendum: During the installation, I did get error messages that indicated
certain files were not being found, however I did use the complete DVD ISO
image, which I believe should have included everything and, to make sure, I
selected every package for installation.  Also, the reference to Windows was
for the other machine (an older Toshiba using Vista, not 7) on which I had
burned the image disk (I completely eliminated the Windows 7 partition on
the newer machine prior to installation).

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:57 PM, lottami...@yahoo.com wrote:

 To All:

 I installed 8.0 last year with no trouble at all.  However, this year, I
 put it on a new machine (Toshiba laptop A505-S6981 running Windows 7) but I
 can't seem to get any of the port packages to install.  This time I used a
 DVD ISO image, rather than a CD-ROM as before.  It seems like sysinstall
 can't find necessary dependencies, although it does appear to have loaded
 the packages (e.g., X11) into the proper directories.  Any idea what is
 going on?

 Thanks.




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Difficulty installing 8.2 stable.

2011-04-08 Thread lottamiata
To All:

I installed 8.0 last year with no trouble at all.  However, this year, I put
it on a new machine (Toshiba laptop A505-S6981 running Windows 7) but I
can't seem to get any of the port packages to install.  This time I used a
DVD ISO image, rather than a CD-ROM as before.  It seems like sysinstall
can't find necessary dependencies, although it does appear to have loaded
the packages (e.g., X11) into the proper directories.  Any idea what is
going on?

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:15:11 +0200
Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se wrote:

 You seem to miss one crucial fact:  Not all the people who write to
 this list are subscribed to it.  They will not see any replies
 directed only to the list.  It is for their benefit that that rule
 exists.

I don't know about anyone else, but personally I like getting replies
CC'd to me because they end up in my INBOX - otherwise I often don't
notice someone's replied since there are so many new messages to the
mailing list each day.

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Carmel
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:50:52 -0600
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated:

 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 11:15:11PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:11:52PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
   On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:42:16PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:

section 8.6 starts:

 start quote 
Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the
sender and to FreeBSD-questions.
 end quote 
   
   I, for one, am glad this does not happen more often.  I really do
   *not* need a bunch of duplicates cluttering up my inbox.  I have
   yet to see anyone complain of not receiving a CC in addition to
   the mail from the list.
   
   I consider not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to
   the list a good reason to do otherwise.
  
  You seem to miss one crucial fact:  Not all the people who write to
  this list are subscribed to it.  They will not see any replies
  directed only to the list.  It is for their benefit that that rule
  exists.
 
 You seem to fail to realize that it's possible to CC someone who
 isn't on the list, but not CC someone who *is* on the list.  That
 would be why people who aren't members of the list say thinks like
 please CC me, while people who are members occasionally say please
 don't send duplicates to me.

The solution to this problem is so obvious that I am amazed that no one
has proposed it. Simply require the poster to be subscribed to the
list. Other high quality lists, such as but not limited to Postfix have
that requirement in place. If a potential poster is either too stupid
or too lazy to subscribe then that is their problem. For the record, I
have subscribed to lists before simple to post one question. Upon
receiving an answer, I terminated my subscription. I did not feel the
least bit inconvenienced.

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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Alexander Lardner
Can we just drop this matter? It's bad enough that iPhone mail makes this whole 
ordeal a pain in the butt to read, but in the grand scheme of things, it _just 
doesn't matter_. I'm subscribed to the list, I expect lots of email from the 
list that I probably won't read anyway, but at least it's helpful to someone, 
somehow. My 2 cents.

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Marble and routing

2011-04-08 Thread Steven Friedrich
I'm in the U.S., so I believe that my only valid choice is OpenRoute service.

Does it require any subscription payment, os is it available free?

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X Window System: xorg-7.5.1X.Org X Server 1.7.7
OS version:  FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 (5.9 MB kernel)
Platform:HP pavilion zd8000 (zd8215us)
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Installed devices:
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Re: vmware-tools-freebsd No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5.

2011-04-08 Thread Devin Teske
On Apr 8, 2011, at 5:03 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:

 El día Friday, April 08, 2011 a las 12:17:03PM +0200, Dimitry Andric escribió:
 
 On 2011-04-08 10:42, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and
 I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver
 for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM
 runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine.
 
 Any idea how to solve this?

A co-worker and I recently went through this. Seems the trick is to install 
xf86-video-vmware-10.16.9 (we are using 8.1-RELEASE), then re-run the 
vmware-config.pl file that you un-packed from the vmware-tools tarball, then 
run X -configure (as root), then copy /root/xorg.conf.new to 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (making appropriate backups first, of course). We were able 
to achieve 1600x1200 resolution.
-- 
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 Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in
 9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as
 /.4 while it is 7.6.5?
 
 X.org 7.5 already has VMware drivers, so you can just install the
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse and x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware ports.
 
 Alternatively, run make config in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers, check the
 VMMOUSE and VMWARE entries, and rebuild this meta-port.
 
 Dimitry, 
 
 Thanks for your kind   fast answer; does this also mean that I could
 completely get rid of the VMware' vmware-tools-freebsd? I'm using on the
 8-CURRENT system the emulators/open-vom-tools and will install them in
 the 9-CURRENT too.
 
 Thanks again
 
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Re: Marble and routing

2011-04-08 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Fri Apr  8 18:19:15 2011
 From: Steven Friedrich free...@insightbb.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 19:18:25 -0400
 Subject: Marble and routing

 I'm in the U.S., so I believe that my only valid choice is OpenRoute service.

 Does it require any subscription payment, os is it available free?

Google is your friend.  search string marble routing (oddly enough )

What I got as the 4th link
   http://nienhueser.de/blog/?p=137http://nienhueser.de/blog/?p=137
seems very relevant to your question.

To quote Sgt. Schultz, I know nothing about KDE, marble, or the openroute 
service.


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Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Saturday 09 April 2011 05:46:43 Carmel wrote:
 On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:50:52 -0600
 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated:
 
 The solution to this problem is so obvious that I am amazed that no one

this is a solution which creates just new problems.

 has proposed it. Simply require the poster to be subscribed to the
 list. Other high quality lists, such as but not limited to Postfix have
 that requirement in place. If a potential poster is either too stupid
 or too lazy to subscribe then that is their problem. For the record, I
 have subscribed to lists before simple to post one question. Upon
 receiving an answer, I terminated my subscription. I did not feel the
 least bit inconvenienced.

You did not, but the rest of us would have.

Erich
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