Re: how to force a hard reboot remotely

2011-07-17 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:40:19 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Is there any way to force a complete power down and then reset of a i386 without physically being present? I'm not fully sure what you mean by reset in terms that it happens _after_ powering down. When a machine is powered down (i. e.

Re: options used to compile packages

2011-07-17 Thread David Arendt
Hi, When I did the test, I used FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 using the ports collection delivered with this distribution. Yesterday I did a checkout of the latest ports tree. I compiled bash, xorg, xfce and gdm using the default options. When trying to login using gdm, it still complains about a missing

Re: options used to compile packages

2011-07-17 Thread Michael Powell
David Arendt wrote: Hi, well I don't actually now which package it was, but I compiled gdm (so it should be one of it's dependencies). A compilation resulted in a non working gdm (something with pam support not found on execution). Upon installing gdm and is dependencies from packages,

Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Jerry
While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Re: how to force a hard reboot remotely

2011-07-17 Thread Daniel Feenberg
In the last episode (Jul 16), Aryeh Friedman said: Is there any way to force a complete power down and then reset of a i386 without physically being present? You haven't said what about an ordinary shutdown -r isn't satisfactory, but we have an iboot gizmo

Re: options used to compile packages

2011-07-17 Thread b. f.
On 7/17/11, David Arendt ad...@prnet.org wrote: When I did the test, I used FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 using the ports collection delivered with this distribution. I see. Since that time, there have been very few changes to the version of the base system used to build the packages for 8, but more to

boot/loader splash image

2011-07-17 Thread wayne mitchell
hey got question/problem for /boot/loader system: freeBSD 8.1-RELEASE GENERIC trying to get a bitmap on screen for bootup - have read man page for all boot associated stuff (loader.conf...) and followed instructions using following

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Jens Jahnke
Hi, On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 07:10:59 -0400 Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: J Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore J J http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/11/07/16/0020243/Lennart-Poettering-BSD-Isnt-Relevant-Anymore J J Interestingly enough, a great deal of it is true. It might be J

Help needed : My FreeBSD8.2-amd64 installation keeps crashing

2011-07-17 Thread Manish Jain
Hi all, My FreeBSD8.2-amd64 installation keeps crashing - power off in a flash with no warning. I can't imagine what might be the problem. I ran memtest86+ and it cleared Pass 1 with no errors. Win XP runs without any problems. I have pasted below XP Device Manager's system summary

loader.conf options

2011-07-17 Thread wayne mitchell
hey am trying to configure my new system (FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE GENERIC amd64 - on an intel core 2 duo) and find all possible settings to tweak i can tell from documentation that there are many options possible with /boot/loader.conf as well as others though i cannot find any definitive list i am

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 17.07.2011 13:10, Jerry wrote: While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Subbsd
Hi All of us know that in many cases BSD do not concede technically Linux. However is the fact. The quantity of the companies using FreeBSD catastrophically decreases! In what a problem? As I see one of popularization's problems - there is no information on innovations (DTRACE, ccTCP, VIMAGE,

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd: community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but as a whole it already absolutely small small groups of people. And do you feel this will be the end of FreeBSD?

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

boot/loader splash image

2011-07-17 Thread wayne mitchell
hey got question/problem for /boot/loader system: freeBSD 8.1-RELEASE GENERIC trying to get a bitmap onscreen for bootup have read man page for all boot associated stuff (loader.conf...) and followed instructions using following

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread C. Bergström
On 07/17/11 07:43 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd: community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but as a whole it already absolutely small small groups of people. And do

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread C. Bergström
On 07/17/11 07:24 PM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: However, what worries me is how influential he is in some open source projects. He suggested that Gnome should be Linux specific because trying to keep compatibility with other UNIX systems (BSD for example) holds them from going further in the

Re: loader.conf options

2011-07-17 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, wayne mitchell wrote: am trying to configure my new system (FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE GENERIC amd64 - on an intel core 2 duo) I'd suggest upgrading to 8.2-RELEASE or 8-STABLE. and find all possible settings to tweak i can tell from documentation that there are many options

Re: how to force a hard reboot remotely

2011-07-17 Thread Ryan Coleman
I'd feel better about the company if they used English correctly and didn't have a bunch of HTML bombs. On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: In the last episode (Jul 16), Aryeh Friedman said: Is there any way to force a complete power down and then reset of a i386

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of July 17, 2011 8:13:13 PM +0700, C. Bergström is alleged to have said: 1) Why care about *BSD as a desktop? 2) Why care about *BSD as a workstation? (Which I see as a next level in stability/usability beyond a toy desktop) --As for the rest, it is mine. Because it is easier to get

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Jerry wrote: While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
2011/7/17 C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com:  On 07/17/11 07:24 PM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: However, what worries me is how influential he is in some open source projects. He suggested that Gnome should be Linux specific because trying to keep compatibility with other UNIX systems (BSD

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Outback Dingo
The FreeBSD pieces work better. Does Linux have some advantages? Yes. Does FreeBSD have some deficiencies? Yes. There, I said it. I'm over it now. ++1 I completely agree, as a server OS FreeBSD hands down rocks The only reason i can see netcraft making suh states is because of

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergström wrote: In the specific case about Gnome - really if you care so much then you can submit patches and contribute. If nobody is willing to do the work (scratch the itch) then ultimately it really doesn't matter. I hope gnome does do this.. Maybe

Re: boot/loader splash image

2011-07-17 Thread Fbsd8
wayne mitchell wrote: hey got question/problem for /boot/loader system: freeBSD 8.1-RELEASE GENERIC trying to get a bitmap onscreen for bootup have read man page for all boot associated stuff (loader.conf...) and followed

Re: boot/loader splash image

2011-07-17 Thread Duane Hill
Sunday, July 17, 2011, 6:07:57 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: wayne mitchell wrote: hey got question/problem for /boot/loader system: freeBSD 8.1-RELEASE GENERIC trying to get a bitmap onscreen for bootup have read man page for all boot

Re: boot/loader splash image

2011-07-17 Thread Pan Tsu
Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com writes: wayne mitchell wrote: hey got question/problem for /boot/loader system: freeBSD 8.1-RELEASE GENERIC trying to get a bitmap onscreen for bootup have read man page for all boot associated

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Joshua Isom
On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergström wrote: In the specific case about Gnome - really if you care so much then you can submit patches and contribute. If nobody is willing to do the work (scratch the itch) then ultimately it really doesn't matter.

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.comwrote: and cloud computing instances anyway, Name one cloud provider providing FreeBSD 8x or 9X to run as instances. I know of one coming... question is are there others There are plenty already. Rootbsd for one,

Re: What is xz ?

2011-07-17 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 12 July 2011 10:02, Christian Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de wrote: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Correct. I'm currently on 7-STABLE where it's not yet part of the base system, but my new 8.2-STABLE also has it in /usr/bin. I believe it has been introduced with version

Re: ghghg

2011-07-17 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 14 July 2011 00:48, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: testing Error reading intarnet (A)bort (R)etry (F)ail? -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Outback Dingo
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.comwrote: and cloud computing instances anyway, Name one cloud provider providing FreeBSD 8x or 9X to run as instances. I know of one coming...

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I am working on making a general purpose image for XEN (specifically for rack space but since it is a common framework attempting to make it vendor neutral) On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More