Re: CARP related trivial question
Thanks guys. I think Julian gave me the answer I was looking for. On the other hand I believe that CARP handbook/man pages are inaccurate. I'm not supposed to look for these kind of things on a mailing list. Working instructions are the most important information and have to be there. I also think that the arp load balancing section of CARP is not that complete. But anyway, it's just my point of view on this very specific case as I'm generally very happy about the quality of Free/Open BSD man pages. Thank you all for your time, have a good day. On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:28 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 Message-id: 4eb16572.4080...@my.gd Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote: Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow. P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel. Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list. Snoop wrote : There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel So Snoop must install modules ! # cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf config GENERIC cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install Hi everybody, I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. In the CARP man pages is clearly stated http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: __ To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as described in Chapter 9 with the following option: device carp Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the following line to the /boot/loader.conf: if_carp_load=YES __ I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on loader.conf. I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that working on any node. I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. Am I missing something? Any tip would be appreciated. You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had /boot/kernel/if_carp* files . I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not. Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box: mybsd root /boot/kernel # uname -a FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM amd64 mybsd root /boot/kernel # ls -la /boot/kernel/if_carp* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 197856 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Halloween a Rimini, hotel+parco, con i Torre Pedrera Hotels, Euro 90 a coppia in bed breakfast, con ingresso ai parchi tematici della romagna Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11896d=3-11 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DNS config help
On 02/11/2011 20:52, AN wrote: I have a question about how to configure DNS. My local network is 10.x, and I sometimes need to connect to a remote VPN. My question is how do I configure BIND to forward queries to a different server only for a specific domain. This sounds like a job for a static-stub domain. That's a fairly new feature in BIND, so you may well need to install bind98 from ports. See the documentation here: http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.8/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#zone_statement_grammar When I am connected to the VPN, vpn.example.com, I want queries for anything going to example.com to go a specific DNS, and everything else on 10.x to go to my regular DNS. Please let me know if I need to provide more info. Thanks in advance for any help. Hmmm I don't think you're going to have much fun at all if you try and modify your named configuration depending on whether your VPN is up or not. DNS TTLs are generally of the order of days -- that should be taken as a measure of the minimum time that should go between restarts of a recursive DNS (ideally, and as a long term average). Better to just fail the lookup when the VPN is down. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: DNS config help
On 11/3/11 8:51 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 02/11/2011 20:52, AN wrote: I have a question about how to configure DNS. My local network is 10.x, and I sometimes need to connect to a remote VPN. My question is how do I configure BIND to forward queries to a different server only for a specific domain. This sounds like a job for a static-stub domain. That's a fairly new feature in BIND, so you may well need to install bind98 from ports. See the documentation here: http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.8/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#zone_statement_grammar You can simply create a forward zone. If this should only apply to your VPN clients, then create a view that matches only their IP, for example: acl trusted { 127.0.0.1; ::1; 192.168.0.0/24; }; view internal_in in { match-clients { trusted; }; recursion yes; additional-from-auth yes; additional-from-cache yes; zone . { type hint; file named.root; }; zone avocat-conseil.fr { type forward; forwarders { 192.168.252.252; }; forward only; }; }; I have the exact one setup here, allow me to explain. There's a server at my parents' office (wow this sounds so awkward, when I re-read it) that handles: - dhcp - dns - firewalling - smb shares - routing There's also a small VPN box that's, so to speak, outside our perimeter because it's an appliance and I have 0 level of control over it, it runs at 192.168.252.252 in its own separate VLAN and establishes a VPN with some law organization thingy, using an IP range of 172.30.* From the server, I route 172.30.* to the VPN box, and I also make that box authoritative for a few domains, including the one quoted above. I'm not certain what you're trying to accomplish, but this works like a charm here. When I am connected to the VPN, vpn.example.com, I want queries for anything going to example.com to go a specific DNS, and everything else on 10.x to go to my regular DNS. Please let me know if I need to provide more info. Thanks in advance for any help. Hmmm I don't think you're going to have much fun at all if you try and modify your named configuration depending on whether your VPN is up or not. DNS TTLs are generally of the order of days -- that should be taken as a measure of the minimum time that should go between restarts of a recursive DNS (ideally, and as a long term average). Better to just fail the lookup when the VPN is down. Actually, using a view that matches only the VPN's IP range would do the trick easily and efficiently. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: nfs client speed lower than expected.
iperf [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 3] 0.0-60.2 sec 6.22 GBytes 887 Mbits/sec transfers in via ssh are nice and nifty too. Vince On 02/11/2011 23:55, Gary Gatten wrote: Is the interface really at 1Gb? Have you tested with iperf, ftp, or anything other than nfs? -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:52 PM To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: nfs client speed lower than expected. Hi all, What kind of speed should I be expecting over an NFS mount from a linux box using a gig interface (igb)? I'm seeing linux clients getting approx 2 or 3 times the throughput rsyncing files from a linux nfs server that i get from a 8-stable FreeBSD client. representative results 7.26MB/s - Freebsd client 21.10MB/s liunx client I've tried a variety of files to try and take caching out of the equation, I've tweaked a few sysctls after much googling kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=400 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=16384 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=524288 net.inet.udp.recvspace=65535 net.local.stream.recvspace=65535 net.local.stream.sendspace=65535 with no obvious improvement. freebsd mount options ro,noatime,noexec,nosuid,udp,nfsv3,rsize=1024,wsize=1024,bg,hard,intr,timeout=4,retrans=4 linux mount options _netdev,ro,noatime,nodev,noexec,nosuid,proto=udp,vers=3,rsize=1k,wsize=1k,bg,hard,intr,timeo=4,retrans=4 I have seen that using the linux server as an nfs client to write to the NFS server on the freebsd box gives similar performance to a linux client pulling from the linux server so I'm guessing its something to do with the freebsd nfs client? Any suggestions/clues welcome. Thanks, Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: nfs client speed lower than expected.
I'll give it a try when i get a moment, These servers are all on gigabit LAN (sadly 1500 mtu until I can get the network guy to schedule an outage to reboot the switches and enable jumbo frames,) same subnet so i would expect UDP to have similar or better performance. Vince On 02/11/2011 23:53, Michael Sierchio wrote: Mount via tcp. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Vincent Hoffman vi...@unsane.co.uk wrote: Hi all, What kind of speed should I be expecting over an NFS mount from a linux box using a gig interface (igb)? I'm seeing linux clients getting approx 2 or 3 times the throughput rsyncing files from a linux nfs server that i get from a 8-stable FreeBSD client. representative results 7.26MB/s - Freebsd client 21.10MB/s liunx client I've tried a variety of files to try and take caching out of the equation, I've tweaked a few sysctls after much googling kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=400 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=16384 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=524288 net.inet.udp.recvspace=65535 net.local.stream.recvspace=65535 net.local.stream.sendspace=65535 with no obvious improvement. freebsd mount options ro,noatime,noexec,nosuid,udp,nfsv3,rsize=1024,wsize=1024,bg,hard,intr,timeout=4,retrans=4 linux mount options _netdev,ro,noatime,nodev,noexec,nosuid,proto=udp,vers=3,rsize=1k,wsize=1k,bg,hard,intr,timeo=4,retrans=4 I have seen that using the linux server as an nfs client to write to the NFS server on the freebsd box gives similar performance to a linux client pulling from the linux server so I'm guessing its something to do with the freebsd nfs client? Any suggestions/clues welcome. Thanks, Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive?
What software, base or ports, is used to burn a CD or DVD on a SATA drive, /dev/cd0 ? Would burncd be appropriate, or do I need cdrtools? Or cdrkit? This is on FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 amd64. I built and installed sysutils/cdrtools when there was a thread on burncd and SATA, but cdrecord can't see anything (running cdrecord -scanbus): cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd9.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2010 Jörg Schilling Running cdrecord dev=help or cdrecord dev=HELP: did no better. I had a similar problem on the older computer (i386 with ATA, not SATA) in NetBSD, but cdrecord ran well in Linux. CD-RW drive there is ATAPI. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DNS config help
On 03/11/2011 10:00, Damien Fleuriot wrote: You can simply create a forward zone. Actually, yes, that's a good idea too. Should have much the same effect and it's been available in BIND approximately forever. There's difference in the niggling details of how it all works, so worth experimenting with the different possibilities. When I am connected to the VPN, vpn.example.com, I want queries for anything going to example.com to go a specific DNS, and everything else on 10.x to go to my regular DNS. Please let me know if I need to provide more info. Thanks in advance for any help. Hmmm I don't think you're going to have much fun at all if you try and modify your named configuration depending on whether your VPN is up or not. DNS TTLs are generally of the order of days -- that should be taken as a measure of the minimum time that should go between restarts of a recursive DNS (ideally, and as a long term average). Better to just fail the lookup when the VPN is down. Actually, using a view that matches only the VPN's IP range would do the trick easily and efficiently. Views are a way of giving a different answer depending on who is asking the question -- how does that help the OP when he's always querying from within his 10.0.0.0/8 network? He's the client connecting to the VPN here. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: CARP related trivial question
Hi, Reference: From: Snoop sn...@email.it Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:18:30 +0100 Message-id: 1320304710.17303.11.ca...@blackfriar.inhio.eu Snoop wrote: Thanks guys. I think Julian gave me the answer I was looking for. On the other hand I believe that CARP handbook/man pages are inaccurate. I'm not supposed to look for these kind of things on a mailing list. Working instructions are the most important information and have to be there. I also think that the arp load balancing section of CARP is not that complete. But anyway, it's just my point of view on this very specific case as I'm generally very happy about the quality of Free/Open BSD man pages. Man pages are easy to fix ! Just edit the source send in a diff with send-pr. Handbook pages are harder to edit, cos it uses a tool chain that always breaks for me, so editing source for that is harder, but you can still use send-pr. If necessary let the www@ team reverse your HTML diffs back to their SGML or whatever ;-) Thank you all for your time, have a good day. On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:28 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 Message-id: 4eb16572.4080...@my.gd Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote: Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow. P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel. Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list. Snoop wrote : There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel So Snoop must install modules ! # cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf config GENERIC cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install Hi everybody, I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. In the CARP man pages is clearly stated http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: __ To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as described in Chapter 9 with the following option: device carp Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the following line to the /boot/loader.conf: if_carp_load=YES __ I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on loader.conf. I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that working on any node. I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. Am I missing something? Any tip would be appreciated. You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had /boot/kernel/if_carp* files . I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not. Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box: mybsd root /boot/kernel # uname -a FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM amd64 mybsd root /boot/kernel # ls -la /boot/kernel/if_carp* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 197856 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Vuoi arredare casa con stile? MisterCupido.com realizza perfette Riproduzioni d'Opere d'Arte! Scopri subito le nostre migliori proposte in offerta! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11451d=3-11 Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with ; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive?
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:32:16 + (GMT), Thomas Mueller wrote: What software, base or ports, is used to burn a CD or DVD on a SATA drive, /dev/cd0 ? Would burncd be appropriate, or do I need cdrtools? Or cdrkit? This is on FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 amd64. I can imagine that in 9.0 where acd is obsoleted by cd, burncd will either be rewritten, or be useless. In that case, using tools that work with old-fashioned and now modern cd should work fine. I built and installed sysutils/cdrtools when there was a thread on burncd and SATA, but cdrecord can't see anything (running cdrecord -scanbus): cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd9.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2010 Jörg Schilling Running cdrecord dev=help or cdrecord dev=HELP: did no better. Do you have permissions set properly? Maybe it still tries to access per ATAPICAM, which may be non-working just like acd - just a wild guess, I'm not using 9-RC here so I can't be more specific. I had a similar problem on the older computer (i386 with ATA, not SATA) in NetBSD, but cdrecord ran well in Linux. CD-RW drive there is ATAPI. I've been using cdrecord and cdrdao now since burncd stopped working for me somewhere in v5. For DVDs, growisofs should work. While cdrecord and cdrdao address th SCSI device by n:n:n, growisofs uses /dev/cdN. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DNS config help
On 11/3/11 11:35 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 03/11/2011 10:00, Damien Fleuriot wrote: Actually, using a view that matches only the VPN's IP range would do the trick easily and efficiently. Views are a way of giving a different answer depending on who is asking the question -- how does that help the OP when he's always querying from within his 10.0.0.0/8 network? He's the client connecting to the VPN here. I didn't understand his problem like that, my bad. I remember hearing at work that dnsmasq could do that, perhaps with a little bit of scripting. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? In vain of 'free' in Linux. I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone has a cleaner option. I was always curious. Thanks Jon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual
Original Message Subject:i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual Resent-Date:Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:50:05 GMT Resent-From:freebsd-gnats-sub...@freebsd.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-i...@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:47:53 GMT From: Mahmoud Dadah ad...@asr-it.com To: freebsd-gnats-sub...@freebsd.org Number: 162270 Category: i386 Synopsis: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual Confidential: no Severity: non-critical Priority: high Responsible:freebsd-i386 State: open Quarter: Keywords: Date-Required: Class: sw-bug Submitter-Id: current-users Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 03 12:50:05 UTC 2011 Closed-Date: Last-Modified: Originator: Mahmoud Dadah Release:7.4 Organization: ASR-IT.COM Environment: Description: Hello I need install freebsd 7.2 VIA : SSH or sysinstall and I need you to install it Pls and I have now v7.4 The accsess details of the server IP : 176.9.1.125 User : root Password : asr2011 port : 22 Thank you How-To-Repeat: Fix: Release-Note: Audit-Trail: Unformatted: ___ freebsd-i...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-i386 To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-i386-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Is this the bug report of the day or what? :P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/11 00:22, Rares Aioanei wrote: Original Message Subject: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:50:05 GMT Resent-From: freebsd-gnats-sub...@freebsd.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-i...@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:47:53 GMT From: Mahmoud Dadah ad...@asr-it.com To: freebsd-gnats-sub...@freebsd.org Number: 162270 Category: i386 Synopsis: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual Confidential: no Severity: non-critical Priority: high Responsible:freebsd-i386 State: open Quarter: Keywords: Date-Required: Class: sw-bug Submitter-Id: current-users Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 03 12:50:05 UTC 2011 Closed-Date: Last-Modified: Originator: Mahmoud Dadah Release:7.4 Organization: ASR-IT.COM Environment: Description: Hello I need install freebsd 7.2 VIA : SSH or sysinstall and I need you to install it Pls and I have now v7.4 The accsess details of the server IP : 176.9.1.125 User : root Password : asr2011 port : 22 Thank you How-To-Repeat: Fix: Release-Note: Audit-Trail: Unformatted: ___ freebsd-i...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-i386 To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-i386-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Is this the bug report of the day or what? :P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I thought what was being queried was a manual install but then I read on. Bug report report of the day in deed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOspeAAAoJEHhm85pbqJ26/4EH/2j2I2gcXIKgP7PiVpH4n2/b 71nNfj5nL9kWdFxvVj0IYcOWLTPmOPlXG3EK+6QhlGNx6+3AXOasF9HJAYQoeRuS 0+kxFRYc4fbl//5CPViCh4s+PBKZg/6NofdGrSJhVX64ZqyQQHAYFh68Ci+gWJ/E cFLgyKpbC5ni2jpL47wm5cykbeKrsHDRfJcBVNvCx305shaIT+HtxdmpTds59/mr pp0mT5YQuQPV1jQHP915QcwVUzVhBarba+NwTLAMnMShmVoz2sG7tYe9a9AjSaH7 tZScFq2KcNMmqWHkmgds+vhQvhM+gkdz9bs0Oaf//WcVTMBPQW5apREcAvJRe14= =paOH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
On 11/3/11 9:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? Hi Jon, Check out the port /usr/ports/sysutils/sysinfo . HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual
On 11/3/11 2:22 PM, Rares Aioanei wrote: Original Message Subject: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:50:05 GMT Resent-From: freebsd-gnats-sub...@freebsd.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-i...@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:47:53 GMT From: Mahmoud Dadah ad...@asr-it.com To: freebsd-gnats-sub...@freebsd.org Number: 162270 Category: i386 Synopsis: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual Confidential: no Severity: non-critical Priority: high Responsible:freebsd-i386 State: open Quarter: Keywords: Date-Required: Class: sw-bug Submitter-Id: current-users Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 03 12:50:05 UTC 2011 Closed-Date: Last-Modified: Originator: Mahmoud Dadah Release:7.4 Organization: ASR-IT.COM Environment: Description: Hello I need install freebsd 7.2 VIA : SSH or sysinstall and I need you to install it Pls and I have now v7.4 The accsess details of the server IP : 176.9.1.125 User : root Password : asr2011 port : 22 Thank you How-To-Repeat: Fix: Posting in a legendary thread. Also: freebsd# w 2:43PM up 1:26, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT root p0 82.205.103.21 1:18PM22 sysinstall root p1 83.167.62.196 2:43PM - w sigh... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rares Aioanei bsdlis...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/2011 03:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? In vain of 'free' in Linux. I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone has a cleaner option. I was always curious. Thanks Jon __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org top? Crap, I forgot mention that it needs to be non-interactive, it will be for e-mail alerts. So that rules out top as for as I know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:06:19 -0400 Jon Schipp jonsch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rares Aioanei bsdlis...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/2011 03:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? In vain of 'free' in Linux. I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone has a cleaner option. I was always curious. Thanks Jon __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org top? Crap, I forgot mention that it needs to be non-interactive, it will be for e-mail alerts. So that rules out top as for as I know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org top -n 1 followed by grep or awk might do what you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
postfix INST_BASE option
Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix on a production server? -- Janos Dohanics ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: postfix INST_BASE option
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com wrote: Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix on a production server? Great question! I know there has been some discussion to be able to choose your base MTA upon install but I don't know how far this has gone. I don't use that option but rather install it as a regular port, register it in mailer.conf when it asks you to and then do this in your rc.conf sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO postfix_enable=YES I haven't used the INST_BASE option out of fear that it might give me trouble on building world and upgrading. Also a new approach I'm taking is using EzJail for service jails so use a pure MTA jail and use the base sendmail as a relay to that. For the time being I'm using posfix on the base system to relay but in the future I plan to do it with the native sendmail and only use postfix on the MTA service jail. -- Alejandro Imass -- Janos Dohanics ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
Hello Jon, Perhaps the port sysutils/freecolor. Cheers ... Mark Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? In vain of 'free' in Linux. I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone has a cleaner option. I was always curious. Thanks Jon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Timing of FreeBSD 9.0-RC2?
I've been working with FreeBSD 9.0-RC1, and it's good but still has a few rough edges. I understand that since RC1, llvm and Clang have been updated and can now successfully compile the world (an un-GNUed toolchain at last!) and that some disk bugs have been fixed. Is there an ETA for RC2? Need to build servers, and since freebsd-update can't do binary updates between release candidates I'd like a version that has the latest fixes. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
Jon Schipp jonsch...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rares Aioanei bsdlis...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/2011 03:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? In vain of 'free' in Linux. I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone has a cleaner option. I was always curious. Thanks Jon __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org top? Crap, I forgot mention that it needs to be non-interactive, it will be for e-mail alerts. So that rules out top as for as I know. No, you could script it out of top(1), but I'm going to guess that you're trying to be warned when the system is close to running out of memory. That is silly -- you paid for the memory; why would you *want* it to sit around doing nothing? Also note that the definition of free is somewhat complicated. Maybe if you described the actual problem you want to solve, we could suggest a more appropriate answer. A literal answer to your question might be: top -d 1|grep '^Mem:'|cut -d ',' -f 6 assuming the format of the line of top doesn't change. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
freebsd-update (custom kernel)
I would like to know about freebsd-update command. It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom kernel. First question is the following : su - #freebsd-update fetch #freebsd-update install Does this command work well? The answer is . [A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. Second question is ... For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. Can I upgrade without failure? I would like to know only success rate? The answer is [A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% Thanks in advance. --- Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.comwrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 08:17:46 2011 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0400 From: Jon Schipp jonsch...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? In vain of 'free' in Linux. Having *NO* idea what linux 'free' does, your question is hard to answer. I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone has a cleaner option. I was always curious. If you're just looking for the amount of 'free' memory, the 3rd field of the third line of the output of vmstat(8) has that value. I'm under the impression that virtual memory and physical memory usage are very different. e.g. vmstat and top report very different memory values. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
It will work fine - it won't attempt to update the kernel. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:49 AM, masayoshi rocksta...@y7mail.com wrote: I would like to know about freebsd-update command. It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom kernel. First question is the following : su - #freebsd-update fetch #freebsd-update install Does this command work well? The answer is . [A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. Second question is ... For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. Can I upgrade without failure? I would like to know only success rate? The answer is [A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% Thanks in advance. --- Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com wrote: I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and maintaining the actual update server that distributes. I don't think that's relevant. It works fine with the public servers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Jon Schipp jonsch...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rares Aioanei bsdlis...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/2011 03:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? In vain of 'free' in Linux. I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone has a cleaner option. I was always curious. Thanks Jon __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org top? Crap, I forgot mention that it needs to be non-interactive, it will be for e-mail alerts. So that rules out top as for as I know. No, you could script it out of top(1), but I'm going to guess that you're trying to be warned when the system is close to running out of memory. That is silly -- you paid for the memory; why would you *want* it to sit around doing nothing? While this isn't my intention... I'm curious: You wouldn't want to know when your machine has reached periods of high memory utilization? Occurrence/frequency information seems pretty valuable. More importantly, at specific times, noticing patterns, use during/after business hours If you didn't want to use memory, it wouldn't be purchased. I don't think keeping track of the utility of your purchases is silly. Also note that the definition of free is somewhat complicated. Maybe if you described the actual problem you want to solve, we could suggest a more appropriate answer. A literal answer to your question might be: top -d 1|grep '^Mem:'|cut -d ',' -f 6 assuming the format of the line of top doesn't change. That does the trick. I didn't think it was possible to grab data from interactive programs without throwing in some garbage. Should've tested. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jon Schipp jonsch...@gmail.com wrote: I'm under the impression that virtual memory and physical memory usage are very different. e.g. vmstat and top report very different memory values. If I assume this is an XY problem, and your true goal is find out what memory pressure a system is under then my answer would be to track the percent of swap used. Free memory is a useful utility on Windows XP, not so much on FreeBSD. So to answer your question in another way, there is a reason free doesn't exist on FreeBSD. It's not very meaningful. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:49:16AM -0700, masayoshi thus spake: I would like to know about freebsd-update command. It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom kernel. First question is the following : su - #freebsd-update fetch #freebsd-update install Does this command work well? The answer is . [A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. Second question is ... For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. Can I upgrade without failure? I would like to know only success rate? The answer is [A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% Thanks in advance. I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and maintaining the actual update server that distributes. 1. Always work 2. Can never account for 100 percent... I've not run into a problem, though. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-update-server/ -jgh -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 09:19:29AM -0700, Michael Sierchio thus spake: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com wrote: I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and maintaining the actual update server that distributes. I don't think that's relevant. It works fine with the public servers. I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custom kernel is no longer custom. All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os patches are distributed by the update servers. -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
This is simply not the case. freebsd-update works on the basis of cryptographic hashes on the binaries. It is, after all, a binary update program. If it detects a custom kernel, it will not update the kernel, but updates userland programs. It doesn't *care* what your kernel config name is, it really doesn't matter. Kernel update becomes a manual operation, which requires fetching sources from the SECURITY branch. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com wrote: I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custom kernel is no longer custom. All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os patches are distributed by the update servers. -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custom kernel is no longer custom. All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os patches are distributed by the update servers. Hi, The freebsd-update tool works fine with GENERIC and CUSTOM kernels. In fact, GENERIC kernel is upgraded during the upgrade step. With a custom kernel, you just have to rebuild it. This tool update by default the source code, the entire base system, and the kernel. Please read the handbook : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anything like mkmf for foo linux?
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 04:38:00AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:38:00 +0100 From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de Subject: Re: Anything like mkmf for foo linux? To: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:08:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: fwiw,i HAVE PORTED A FEW THINGS ACROSS. dunno what id do w/out the src!! Keep the mkmf source -- seems that is has been removed from the ports tree. Port: mkmf-4.11 Path: /usr/ports/devel/mkmf Info: Creates program and library makefiles for the make(1) command Maint: po...@freebsd.org Moved: Date: 2011-08-01 Reason: Has expired: Looks like an abandonware, no more public distfile Planned obsolescence in action? :-) Wow! dunno what i would do without a tool like this. it uses three templates for C/C++, fortran, and pascal[?]. builds neat auto makefiles that seem to work anywhere. i.e.: bsd and linux. probly all nixes. well, i'll spend a few hours for the weekends ahead and port to ubuntu. --note that i do not know how to add anything to the linux packages and wont even try. tx, polyt, appreciate it -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux
Jon Schipp jonsch...@gmail.com writes: You wouldn't want to know when your machine has reached periods of high memory utilization? No, I want to know when my machine would perform better if it had more memory. Keeping memory in use when it otherwise would be free means I get *better* performance. Occurrence/frequency information seems pretty valuable. More importantly, at specific times, noticing patterns, use during/after business hours If you didn't want to use memory, it wouldn't be purchased. I don't think keeping track of the utility of your purchases is silly. That makes sense, but the amount of free memory does not tell you any of what you're saying you want to track. Please start by reading the FAQ question titled Why does top show very little free memory even when I have very few programs running?. That does the trick. I didn't think it was possible to grab data from interactive programs without throwing in some garbage. Technically, top(1) isn't an interactive program at all if you send its output to a pipe. It still could use terminal features, but it doesn't. This is described within the first 25 lines of its manual. In fact, I notice that the '-d 1' option (that I put in my suggestion) is redundant. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 09:42:12AM -0700, Michael Sierchio thus spake: This is simply not the case. freebsd-update works on the basis of cryptographic hashes on the binaries. It is, after all, a binary update program. If it detects a custom kernel, it will not update the kernel, but updates userland programs. It doesn't *care* what your kernel config name is, it really doesn't matter. Kernel update becomes a manual operation, which requires fetching sources from the SECURITY branch. I'm not disagreeing with you, and I know what it does. I happen to run a slew of update servers myself, however if you run your own update server based on your own signatures, it will patch your custom kernel and distribute it, as well. I didn't know it would skip it, though, with the main update servers. Interesting. -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: postfix INST_BASE option
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com wrote: Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix on a production server? Great question! I know there has been some discussion to be able to choose your base MTA upon install but I don't know how far this has gone. I don't use that option but rather install it as a regular port, register it in mailer.conf when it asks you to and then do this in your rc.conf sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO postfix_enable=YES You can do this a lot easier with just: sendmail_enable=NONE postfix_enable=YES -- chs, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + C? If it's so, do I need to run make clean before I start make one more time? Thank you! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= rc5h...@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + C? Yes. If it's so, do I need to run make clean before I start make one more time? Authoritative answer: It depends. On what you 'did wrong, and what it takes to fix it. e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
--- Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 --- On Fri, 4/11/11, Alexandre axel...@ymail.com wrote: From: Alexandre axel...@ymail.com Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) To: Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com, masayoshi rocksta...@y7mail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 3:42 AM I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if Hi, The freebsd-update tool works fine with GENERIC and CUSTOM kernels. In fact, GENERIC kernel is upgraded during the upgrade step. With a custom kernel, you just have to rebuild it. This tool update by default the source code, the entire base system, and the kernel. Please read the handbook : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Thank you very much for the understandable explanations. I appreciate it very much. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
On 11/3/11 6:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= rc5h...@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + C? Yes. If it's so, do I need to run make clean before I start make one more time? Authoritative answer: It depends. On what you 'did wrong, and what it takes to fix it. e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. Is it even advisable to build the kernel the old way ? I feel safer with cd /usr/src make buildkernel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: postfix INST_BASE option
Christer Solskogen christer.solsko...@gmail.com writes: Hi, You can do this a lot easier with just: sendmail_enable=NONE From rc.sendmail(8) : RC.CONF VARIABLES The following variables affect the behavior of rc.sendmail. They are defined in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and can be changed in /etc/rc.conf. sendmail_enable (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be used. It will be removed in a future release. Regards Éric Masson -- CS: Oui mais alors moi je me construis une souris avec autant de boutons qu'applis et je fais des racourcis, rena ! :-) LP: Ah oui, mais alors là il va falloir acheter des doigts, rerena! ;-p -+- LP in Guide du Macounet Pervers : Vous m'en mettrez une poignée -+- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel)
Sorry,all. I will email same message. I am not familiar with this webmail. Thank you very much for the understandable explanations. I appreciate it very much. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
freebsd-update: how to understand, what have changed?
I running 8.2-RELEASE-p4. I have just run freebsd-update and it dave done something I dont't understand: # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. Fetching 1 files... done. The following files will be updated as part of updating to 8.2-RELEASE-p4: /boot/GENERIC/kernel # freebsd-update install Installing updates... done. It download something, but doesn't shows any files changes. So, what have changed? Does I need to rebuild my custom kernel or no? Does I need to reboot? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: How to get /dev/smb* ?
02.11.2011, 14:01, Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net: I just noticed, looking back at your previous mail, that you don't seem to have a device smbios line in your kernel config. Try adding that and see if the smbios facility shows up at boot time. You're actually right! Now, with this lines in kernel, SMBIOS looks more alive: # on-die sensor (added) device coretemp # System management bus device smb device smbus device smbios device ichsmb device nfsmb device intpm device alpm device viapm device nfpm device iicbus device iicbb device ic device iic device iicsmb device amdsmb # CPU control pseudo-device. Provides access to MSRs, CPUID info and microcode update feature. device cpuctl # System Management Bus (SMB) options ENABLE_ALART # Control alarm on Intel intpm driver So, system shows it during boot: # dmesg -a |grep smb smbios0: System Management BIOS at iomem 0xf0480-0xf049e on motherboard smbios0: Version: 2.7, BCD Revision: 2.7 Although no smbios0 device actually shows up under /dev. Perhaps some more knowledgeable individual might enlighten us as to what capabilities having this in your kernel config actually enables. The same thing. # ls -la /dev/sm* ls: /dev/sm*: No such file or directory Also, just looking at the (x)mbmon port, the COMMENT line in the Makefile states: A X motherboard monitor for LM78/79, W8378x, AS99127F, VT82C686 and ADM9240 So, this port appears to be useful only on a very specific range of motherboards. I hope that those chipsets are kind of generic things, that are compatible with modern ones like my Z68. It goes without saying that SOME of modern MB, supporting Intel Core(tm) CPUs are still supported by mbmon - it shows state of MB (not CPU) thermal sensor, for example. I can't give you exact models, but I can give it after some days (need to ask). Does it means that it is no way to read temperature sensors on motherboard? Well, it depends. :-) I'm not at all familiar with your particular processor/motherboard, so I can only offer some rather limited advice that may steer you in the right direction for further exploration. There are a number of devices you can enable in your kernel config that may provide some of what you're looking for. Here, on my amd64 box, for instance, device amdtemp, along with device cpuctl and device cpufreq makes the following dev.cpu.* sysctls available, which are one way to (manually) monitor your system. As you can see below, this provides information on CPU temperature and frequency. # sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.0.freq: 2200 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2200/23500 1100/14280 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 1931us dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4658us dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003 dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.2.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 3551us dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004 dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.3.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4943us As I already say, coretemp works fine - I could read CPU thermal sensors with dev.cpu.#CORE_ID.temperature sysctl after I added coretemp device into my kernel. Problem is to read MB sensors, like chasis (system) temperature, fans RPM, voltages and so on. Now, with smbios device enabled, it still doesn't work the perfect way: # mbmon -V No VIA686 HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -S No SMBus HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -I No ISA-IO HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -A InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 This program needs setuid root!! # mbmon -D Probe Request: none Testing Reg's at ISA-IO [ISA Port IO-Base:0x290] Probing Winbond/Asus/LM78/79 chip: CR40:0x44, CR41:0x00, CR42:0x00, CR43:0x00 CR44:0x00, CR45:0x00, CR46:0x00, CR47:0x00 CR48:0x00, CR49:0x00, CR4A:0x00, CR4B:0x00 CR4C:0x00, CR4D:0x00, CR4E:0x80, CR4F:0x00 CR56:0xFF, CR58:0xFF, CR59:0xFF, CR5D:0x19 CR3E:0xFF, CR13:0x00, CR17:0xFF,
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
03.11.2011, 21:20, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com: If it's so, do I need to run make clean before I start make one more time? Authoritative answer: It depends. On what you 'did wrong, and what it takes to fix it. e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. Does it matter, if I always use make buildkernel make installkernel way to rebuild kernels? make buildkernel .. oh! something wrong! Ctrl + C .. mistake fixed! make buildkernel make installkernel - is right? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:29:06 +0100, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd) wrote: On 11/3/11 6:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= rc5h...@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + C? Yes. If it's so, do I need to run make clean before I start make one more time? Authoritative answer: It depends. On what you 'did wrong, and what it takes to fix it. e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. Is it even advisable to build the kernel the old way ? On a slow processor, it makes a *BIG* differnence. Even more so if you build everything you need into the kernel. 'make buildkernel' always recompiles an relinks *everything*. whether or not any dependenies for the module have changed. I've tried 'make buildkernel' on a 'loaded' 486 box, and had it take close to TWENTY FOUR HOURS to complete. With one minor tweak to the config file, e.g. changing one of the 'shared memory' constants, and it is _another_ 24+ hours. *Lots* of it building loadable modules that I have no need for, nor any intention of ever useing. Using the 'old' way, a first-time kernel build was under 40 minutes, and a 'tweak' re-build was under 15. That box is long gone, but on a 733mhz PIII I can go from editing a config file to running on the new kernel in less than 5 minutes (wall clock). The largest part of that time is running 'make depend'. (Second-largest is the rebooting. :) I don't know about anybody else, but _I_ consider that speed differential a *big* advantage to the 'old way'. :) I am likely _not_ the typical user -- I run a monolithic kernel, with everything I need 'compiled in'; *no* loadable modules. Yeah, it can be a nuisance if I need something that isn't compiled in, but I don't get ny unexpected surprises. It also does wonders as far as reducing the required 'root partition' size. I run a 64mb(!!) partition, with less than 1/2 of it occupied by the system install. With the running kernel, a copy of the prior running one as a fall-back, and a GENERIC for worst-case recovery. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to get /dev/smb* ?
02.11.2011, 14:01, Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net: I just noticed, looking back at your previous mail, that you don't seem to have a device smbios line in your kernel config. Try adding that and see if the smbios facility shows up at boot time. You're actually right! Now, with this lines in kernel, SMBIOS looks more alive: # on-die sensor (added) device coretemp # System management bus device smb device smbus device smbios device ichsmb device nfsmb device intpm device alpm device viapm device nfpm device iicbus device iicbb device ic device iic device iicsmb device amdsmb # CPU control pseudo-device. Provides access to MSRs, CPUID info and microcode update feature. device cpuctl # System Management Bus (SMB) options ENABLE_ALART # Control alarm on Intel intpm driver So, system shows it during boot: # dmesg -a |grep smb smbios0: System Management BIOS at iomem 0xf0480-0xf049e on motherboard smbios0: Version: 2.7, BCD Revision: 2.7 Although no smbios0 device actually shows up under /dev. Perhaps some more knowledgeable individual might enlighten us as to what capabilities having this in your kernel config actually enables. The same thing. # ls -la /dev/sm* ls: /dev/sm*: No such file or directory Also, just looking at the (x)mbmon port, the COMMENT line in the Makefile states: A X motherboard monitor for LM78/79, W8378x, AS99127F, VT82C686 and ADM9240 So, this port appears to be useful only on a very specific range of motherboards. I hope that those chipsets are kind of generic things, that are compatible with modern ones like my Z68. It goes without saying that SOME of modern MB, supporting Intel Core(tm) CPUs are still supported by mbmon - it shows state of MB (not CPU) thermal sensor, for example. I can't give you exact models, but I can give it after some days (need to ask). Does it means that it is no way to read temperature sensors on motherboard? Well, it depends. :-) I'm not at all familiar with your particular processor/motherboard, so I can only offer some rather limited advice that may steer you in the right direction for further exploration. There are a number of devices you can enable in your kernel config that may provide some of what you're looking for. Here, on my amd64 box, for instance, device amdtemp, along with device cpuctl and device cpufreq makes the following dev.cpu.* sysctls available, which are one way to (manually) monitor your system. As you can see below, this provides information on CPU temperature and frequency. # sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.0.freq: 2200 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2200/23500 1100/14280 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 1931us dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4658us dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003 dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.2.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 3551us dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004 dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.3.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4943us As I already say, coretemp works fine - I could read CPU thermal sensors with dev.cpu.#CORE_ID.temperature sysctl after I added coretemp device into my kernel. Problem is to read MB sensors, like chasis (system) temperature, fans RPM, voltages and so on. Now, with smbios device enabled, it still doesn't work the perfect way: # mbmon -V No VIA686 HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -S No SMBus HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -I No ISA-IO HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -A InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 This program needs setuid root!! # mbmon -D Probe Request: none Testing Reg's at ISA-IO [ISA Port IO-Base:0x290] Probing Winbond/Asus/LM78/79 chip: CR40:0x44, CR41:0x00, CR42:0x00, CR43:0x00 CR44:0x00, CR45:0x00, CR46:0x00, CR47:0x00 CR48:0x00, CR49:0x00, CR4A:0x00, CR4B:0x00 CR4C:0x00, CR4D:0x00, CR4E:0x80, CR4F:0x00 CR56:0xFF,
ZFS import/export weird behaviour
Hi all, I created a ZFS filesystem on a freebsd-zfs partition. So far so good. Now the problem comes when exporting and importing it. I have two boxes with 9.0-RC1. On one of them zfs import says the filesystem is corrupt, whereas in the other box zfs import works fine. How so? Any ideas appreciated, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011, ? ? wrote: Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + C? If it's so, do I need to run make clean before I start make one more time? With ports, a make clean before rebuilding is a good idea. The build might not be able to continue cleanly, or might have to build differently, depending on what was changed. For /usr/src, I just remove /usr/obj/usr and build again, but also use devel/ccache so there's not much penalty for doing that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 01:48:47PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:29:06 +0100, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd) wrote: On 11/3/11 6:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= rc5h...@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + C? Yes. If it's so, do I need to run make clean before I start make one more time? Authoritative answer: It depends. On what you 'did wrong, and what it takes to fix it. e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. Is it even advisable to build the kernel the old way ? On a slow processor, it makes a *BIG* differnence. Even more so if you build everything you need into the kernel. 'make buildkernel' always recompiles an relinks *everything*. whether or not any dependenies for the module have changed. If that is a problem then just use 'make -DNO_CLEAN buildkernel' and it won't reompile stuff that doesn't need to be recompiled. (Works for buildworld as well.) -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: postfix INST_BASE option
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Eric Masson e...@free.fr wrote: From rc.sendmail(8) : snip See, know I also learned something today :-) -- chs, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:48:26 +0400 Антон Клесс rc5h...@yandex.ru wrote: 03.11.2011, 21:20, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com: If it's so, do I need to run make clean before I start make one more time? Authoritative answer: It depends. On what you 'did wrong, and what it takes to fix it. e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. Does it matter, if I always use make buildkernel make installkernel way to rebuild kernels? make buildkernel .. oh! something wrong! Ctrl + C .. mistake fixed! make buildkernel make installkernel - is right? That's fine, yes. But I wouldn't do an unconditional installkernel after buildkernel (suppose buildkernel failed in some way)? Either include both targets in the same make command: make buildkernel installkernel Or make the second conditional on the outcome of the first: make buildkernel make installkernel You might also save yourself some time by using -DNO_CLEAN after changing your kernel config. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:20:46 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= rc5h...@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + C? Yes. Whilst it's not strictly-speaking building, I would avoid interrupting an install. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64: Weirdness with LOCALE settings: ghostswitching in csh?
Hello. I realised something weird in FreeBSD 10.-CURRENT/amd64 (CLANG compiled), build as from today (buildworld). Working the whole day coding some pyhton scripts and committing the code to my subversion server (most recent subversion from the ports collection, the server is a FreeBSD 9.0-RC1/amd64 box, also system compiled with CLANG, most recent as compiled world of today), suddenly, oy of the blue, trying again to commit I get this error: svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale svn: warning: environment variable LC_CTYPE is de_DE.ISO-8859-1 svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct Checking csh shell setting with 'locale: LANG= LC_CTYPE=C LC_COLLATE=C LC_TIME=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_MONETARY=C LC_MESSAGES=C LC_ALL= Checking my settings from /etc/csh.cshrc and ./.cshrc or .login reveals localised settings for some of the locales as I need those: (set in $HOME/.cshrc) setenv LC_CTYPEde_DE.ISO-8859-1 setenv LC_TIME de_DE.ISO-8859-1 setenv LC_MONETARY de_DE.ISO-8859-1 What is going on? I realised this behaviour now several times, first time I thought I did something and I couldn't remember, but this time, only two terminal windows were opened and the whole day committing data to the repository wasn't an issue. Is there an explanation for this? Regards, Oliver signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel?
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:48:47 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: [snip] I am likely _not_ the typical user -- I run a monolithic kernel, with everything I need 'compiled in'; *no* loadable modules. Yeah, it can be a nuisance if I need something that isn't compiled in, but I don't get ny unexpected surprises. It also does wonders as far as reducing the required 'root partition' size. I run a 64mb(!!) partition, with less than 1/2 of it occupied by the system install. With the running kernel, a copy of the prior running one as a fall-back, and a GENERIC for worst-case recovery. If you don't use modules, why build them at all? Just set NO_MODULES=yes in /etc/make.conf and save yourself that much time. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: postfix INST_BASE option
Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com writes: Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix on a production server? I wouldn't describe either the pros or the cons as particularly strong. If you're not going to use sendmail, you might want to remove it. If you do source upgrades, then setting WITHOUT_SENDMAIL in src.conf will keep it from getting built or installed, and will enable you to remove the existing sendmail files as part of make delete-old. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64: Weirdness with LOCALE settings: ghostswitching in csh?
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 11:17:08PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Hello. I realised something weird in FreeBSD 10.-CURRENT/amd64 (CLANG compiled), build as from today (buildworld). Working the whole day coding some pyhton scripts and committing the code to my subversion server (most recent subversion from the ports collection, the server is a FreeBSD 9.0-RC1/amd64 box, also system compiled with CLANG, most recent as compiled world of today), suddenly, oy of the blue, trying again to commit I get this error: svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale svn: warning: environment variable LC_CTYPE is de_DE.ISO-8859-1 svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct Checking csh shell setting with 'locale: LANG= LC_CTYPE=C LC_COLLATE=C LC_TIME=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_MONETARY=C LC_MESSAGES=C LC_ALL= Checking my settings from /etc/csh.cshrc and ./.cshrc or .login reveals localised settings for some of the locales as I need those: (set in $HOME/.cshrc) setenv LC_CTYPEde_DE.ISO-8859-1 setenv LC_TIME de_DE.ISO-8859-1 setenv LC_MONETARY de_DE.ISO-8859-1 What is going on? I realised this behaviour now several times, first time I thought I did something and I couldn't remember, but this time, only two terminal windows were opened and the whole day committing data to the repository wasn't an issue. Is there an explanation for this? It sounds like a problem specific to the client end, meaning your -CURRENT box. If that's the case: shouldn't this mail have gone to freebsd-current@ instead of freebsd-stable@ ? What am I missing? As for your problem: your locale looks incorrect. It's de_DE.ISO8859-1. Note that yours has an extra hyphen, which probably explains the error (sort of). $ ls -ld /usr/share/locale/de_DE* drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512 Sep 28 14:36 /usr/share/locale/de_DE.ISO8859-1/ drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512 Sep 28 14:36 /usr/share/locale/de_DE.ISO8859-15/ drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512 Sep 28 14:36 /usr/share/locale/de_DE.UTF-8/ As for the fact that it's random: I cannot explain why a sub-shell might get spawned in some cases but not others. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
smartmontools
Hi! Today I installed smartmontools on FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3. In the smartd.conf I changed just DEVICESCAN -a and I have in /var/log/messages: acd0: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED Do I need to setup something else in the smartd.conf or is something wrong with my HD, please? Thanks in advance. Mitja http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: smartmontools
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:39 PM, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Today I installed smartmontools on FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3. In the smartd.conf I changed just DEVICESCAN -a and I have in /var/log/messages: acd0: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED Do I need to setup something else in the smartd.conf or is something wrong with my HD, please? That's not your HD complaining, it's your CD drive. It's probably just complaining about SMART inquiries to it which aren't supported. Some way to exclude scanning that device likely exists in smartd.conf. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
unable to find device node for /dev/asd0s4 in dev!
I have been attempting to install breeBSD 8.2 on my 160GB apple tv 1 hard drive. I made it so there was a blank space to partition 100GB. In the installer I clicked make slice on that empty space, used the auto partition sequence, then clicked all for files to install. After this happened I got the error message Unable to find device node for /dev/.. in dev!. When I got back to my regular startup drive and looked at the apple TV drive(connected by a IDE to USB by the way) all other partitions were gone, and just a 100GB blank looking partition was left. I did the terminal command gpt -r show on the disk, and it still had the framework of all it's original partitions, but nothing in the 100GB left blank. After repeated attempts to install, even with trying the command to erase the entire drive and install freeBSD over it, it always gave me the same response. Then I decided to make a 100GB partition in my intel macbook pro to see if a freeBSD install there would work. It did now work either, which leads me to my current and main problem. Now my laptop does not start, I put in the install disk which shows that there is no macintosh HD like it showed there was no other drives on the apple tv disk. I have read online now that maybe I needed to add 35 blocks on either side to not return with that response, but that doesn't answer where my drive went and I don't quite understand how to do that. When I go back to the installer, it shows that all partitions are there, except the 165(i think) partition for freeBSD that is the only one which shows up on disk utility partitioner.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: postfix INST_BASE option
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:23:46 -0400 Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com wrote: Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix on a production server? Great question! I know there has been some discussion to be able to choose your base MTA upon install but I don't know how far this has gone. I don't use that option but rather install it as a regular port, register it in mailer.conf when it asks you to and then do this in your rc.conf sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO postfix_enable=YES I haven't used the INST_BASE option out of fear that it might give me trouble on building world and upgrading. Also a new approach I'm taking is using EzJail for service jails so use a pure MTA jail and use the base sendmail as a relay to that. For the time being I'm using posfix on the base system to relay but in the future I plan to do it with the native sendmail and only use postfix on the MTA service jail. -- Alejandro Imass That's exactly what I have done when setting up systems, as well as setting WITHOUT_SENDMAIL in src.conf, as Lowell Gilbert mentioned. With the above options, Sendmail is disabled, is not being built with buildworld, and Postfix is installed as regular port in /usr/local. If INST_BASE=off is the default, what's then the usage scenario when I still would want to change it? -- Janos Dohanics ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org