Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread Stas Verberkt
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:24:20PM +0100, claudiu vasadi wrote: > >From my point of view, I would like to see 2 major things in bsdinstall: > > 1) ZFS support > 2) an option, to use GUI or text mode installer (similar to RHEL, CentOS, > Solaris) 3) GELI disk encryption pgpWKcdL5irSY.pgp Descrip

Re: kqueue and filenames

2012-01-23 Thread Info
Thanks for your reply! Am 23.01.2012 20:12, schrieb Pieter de Goeje: kevent is triggered when a file is renamed. How do I get the new name? Is there an extra function? In the moment, I see only the possibility by searching the filesystem(folder) for a new name. A good question to which I unfort

Re: Using non-gcc linker?

2012-01-23 Thread Joshua Isom
On 1/23/2012 3:47 PM, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Hi, I just "made" world and kernel using clang, but I noticed that ld is still using the GNU ld. The page http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClangmentions using a different linker that supports LTO optimisation. Is that non-GNU linker part o

Re: lang/lua fails to build on 9.0-STABLE amd64 - bug or config issue?

2012-01-23 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Lee Thomas wrote: > Hello fellow FreeBSD users, > I ran across an odd issue compiling lua from ports on amd64 with FreeBSD > 9.0-STABLE, and I'm not sure whether it's a bug or incorrect configuration > on my part. The lang/lua port throws a linker error, claiming

Re: freebsd-update and archs

2012-01-23 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Colin Percival wrote: > >> Hmm, you've got almost everything being different there.  Did you use the >> same >> src tree as the release?  If you checked out the tree via CVS it won't match. >> > > Hang

Re: lang/lua fails to build on 9.0-STABLE amd64 - bug or config issue?

2012-01-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 04:22:30PM -0700, Lee Thomas wrote: > Hello fellow FreeBSD users, > I ran across an odd issue compiling lua from ports on amd64 with > FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE, and I'm not sure whether it's a bug or incorrect > configuration on my part. The lang/lua port throws a linker error,

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread gore
On Monday 23 January 2012 08:45:21 pm Da Rock wrote: *snip* > > Instead of crawling under a Rock, how about everyone here, ALL of > > the people I've seen in this thread trashing each other; ALL of > > you, just take 60 seconds, take a DEEP breath, and realize we ARE a > > Community, which is a lot

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread Da Rock
On 01/24/12 11:33, gore wrote: On Monday 23 January 2012 12:17:33 pm Mark Felder wrote: I've recently been presented with new information: namely that RC3 had sysinstall as an option (I did not know this, and I've been reading the lists) and that it was taken away for -RELEASE even though it was

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread gore
On Monday 23 January 2012 01:29:23 pm Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > because, well, I LOVE FreeBSD. Basically, I've tried out NetBSD > > ONCE, > > actually i used NetBSD BEFORE switching to FreeBSD, short time after > they released 2.0 and following versions. Got slower, unstable and > bloated. Switche

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread gore
On Monday 23 January 2012 12:17:33 pm Mark Felder wrote: > I've recently been presented with new information: namely that RC3 > had sysinstall as an option (I did not know this, and I've been > reading the lists) and that it was taken away for -RELEASE even > though it was agreed upon that would no

Re: MySQL Localhost install - Was: Hello

2012-01-23 Thread Da Rock
On 01/24/12 07:06, Crow wrote: I want to create MySQL localhost. Can you provide some more information? Like which version of FreeBSD you are using (or other OS if you happen to be needing other support), what you have completed so far, other parameters that you are able to tell us which may h

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread gore
On Monday 23 January 2012 05:18:01 pm B. Kyle Adkins wrote: > I'm very new to FreeBSD but it seems to me that the installer is > pretty much ok. My only wish is that there might be a little more > info upfront somewhere, preferably in the installer somewhere, about > setting up for a dual boot.

lang/lua fails to build on 9.0-STABLE amd64 - bug or config issue?

2012-01-23 Thread Lee Thomas
Hello fellow FreeBSD users, I ran across an odd issue compiling lua from ports on amd64 with FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE, and I'm not sure whether it's a bug or incorrect configuration on my part. The lang/lua port throws a linker error, claiming to need -fPIC, which is odd because the port Makefile see

SV: Problems uppgrading x11/sessreg port

2012-01-23 Thread Hasse Hansson
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] På vegne af Yuri Pankov Sendt: den 23 januari 2012 22:25 Til: Hasse Hansson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Emne: Re: Problems uppgrading x11/sessreg port On Mon, Jan 23, 2012

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread B. Kyle Adkins
I'm very new to FreeBSD but it seems to me that the installer is pretty much ok. My only wish is that there might be a little more info upfront somewhere, preferably in the installer somewhere, about setting up for a dual boot. I couldn't find in the handbook, (that may be my fault, don't kn

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 09:52:17AM -0600, Mark Felder wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:40:42 -0600, wrote: > > >On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:27:32 -0600 > >Mark Felder articulated: > > > >>Just as you don't get to express your opinion about the government if > >>you don't vote, > > > >Excuse me, but ar

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread claudiu vasadi
PS: would like to see option "2" in PC-BSD too (maybe I'm just melancholic to have a non-GUI installer :) ) -- Best regards, Claudiu Vasadi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To u

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread claudiu vasadi
>From my point of view, I would like to see 2 major things in bsdinstall: 1) ZFS support 2) an option, to use GUI or text mode installer (similar to RHEL, CentOS, Solaris) Other than that, I can use it just as I was using sysinstall, because we always have ZFS on root (need to drop to shell to ru

Using non-gcc linker?

2012-01-23 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
Hi, I just "made" world and kernel using clang, but I noticed that ld is still using the GNU ld. The page http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClangmentions using a different linker that supports LTO optimisation. Is that non-GNU linker part of FreeBSD 9? Thanks! ___

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread Lyubomir Grigorov
>> I first touched FreeBSD around 2005. The current insteller is much more >> appealing and useful. All the people displaying elitist attitude toward the >> arcaic installer which infact DID push people away from FreeBSD, I don't >> understand you. >so may i explain you: > > Those who cannot instal

Re: Problems uppgrading x11/sessreg port

2012-01-23 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 09:51:51PM +0100, Hasse Hansson wrote: > FreeBSD odin.thorshammare.org 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0 r230424: Sun > Jan 22 00:13:50 CET 2012 > ad...@odin.thorshammare.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > I've got some problem with the port sessreg, part of x11/xorg

Hello

2012-01-23 Thread Crow
I want to create MySQL localhost. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Problems uppgrading x11/sessreg port

2012-01-23 Thread Hasse Hansson
FreeBSD odin.thorshammare.org 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0 r230424: Sun Jan 22 00:13:50 CET 2012 ad...@odin.thorshammare.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I've got some problem with the port sessreg, part of x11/xorg suite, when running portupgrade. ===> Building for sessreg-1.0.

Re: portmaster best practices

2012-01-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 05:32:33PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Hello portmaster users, > > If portaudit shows that some installed packages have vulnerabilities, > what do you usually do? It depends on the vulnerability and what the package does. I will de-install it if I think that the vulnera

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 07:25:03PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > And IMHO sysinstall should not exist, while good documentation about > installing BY HAND should be there. I agree with the part of that sentence following the comma. That is all. > > Someone that cannot install it him/herse

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 07:30:57PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >I first touched FreeBSD around 2005. The current insteller is much more > >appealing and useful. All the people displaying elitist attitude toward the > >arcaic installer which infact DID push people away from FreeBSD, I don't > >u

Re: Clang - what is the story?

2012-01-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 08:53:36AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On 01/23/12 07:26, Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 09:33:02PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > >> PCC is only a C compiler, and there is some C++ code (e.g. groff) in the > >> base > >> system. The FreeBSD port is marked as i386

Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.37 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2012-01-23 Thread David Naylor
Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.37 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users). The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package

Re: Clang - what is the story?

2012-01-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 08:54:32AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/01/2012 22:53, Da Rock wrote: > > What part is that? I thought it had to be all c... > > Not at all. clang and llvm are themselves written in C++. > > However, it's groff that Roland mentioned as the canonical example of > C

Re: freebsd-update and archs

2012-01-23 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Colin Percival wrote: > Hmm, you've got almost everything being different there.  Did you use the same > src tree as the release?  If you checked out the tree via CVS it won't match. > Hang on. I cheated a little. I used the base.txz from the release and compared

Re: kqueue and filenames

2012-01-23 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On 23-1-2012 11:52, Info wrote: I'm using kqueue for detecting file-events; for additional information I add a struct to udata, when registering an event with kevent. When I delete an event, will be udata deleted too, or do I have to manage the memory for the structs with an own implementation?

Re: Applying local patches after updating FreeBSD source

2012-01-23 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 23/01/2012 18:03, Maxim Khitrov wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> When I need to apply a custom patch to a port, I can set EXTRA_PATCHES >> make variable in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf (when using portconf), and >> the patch will be automatically app

Re: Which Common Lisp port for FreeBSD/sparc64?

2012-01-23 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 09:50:54PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: >> You can find various cmucl snapshots here: >> http://common-lisp.net/project/cmucl/downloads/snapshots/2012/01/ i think >> one of the authors has a sparc machine, and also runs

RE: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread Devin Teske
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:25 AM > To: Damien Fleuriot > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: Fre

Re: Calxeda processors

2012-01-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
http://www.calxeda.com Anyone know what the status would be of running our fav OS on these quadcore, blade based server processors? Running a server at 5W would be reeaal nice, you know :) not really 5W. you have to connect some hard drive anyway. _

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I first touched FreeBSD around 2005. The current insteller is much more appealing and useful. All the people displaying elitist attitude toward the arcaic installer which infact DID push people away from FreeBSD, I don't understand you. so may i explain you: Those who cannot install things witho

Re: Horrible installer

2012-01-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
because, well, I LOVE FreeBSD. Basically, I've tried out NetBSD ONCE, actually i used NetBSD BEFORE switching to FreeBSD, short time after they released 2.0 and following versions. Got slower, unstable and bloated. Switched to FreeBSD, which in every version is getting BETTER not worse. I al

Re: Applying local patches after updating FreeBSD source

2012-01-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 23/01/2012 18:03, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > Hi all, > > When I need to apply a custom patch to a port, I can set EXTRA_PATCHES > make variable in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf (when using portconf), and > the patch will be automatically applied whenever that port is built. > Is there equivalent functi

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Allan ___ Erm, you have to realize the new installer was discussed at length here, when 9.0 was still under development/beta/prerelease. Alternatively, you could do like me and install entirely by hand: - boot a

Applying local patches after updating FreeBSD source

2012-01-23 Thread Maxim Khitrov
Hi all, When I need to apply a custom patch to a port, I can set EXTRA_PATCHES make variable in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf (when using portconf), and the patch will be automatically applied whenever that port is built. Is there equivalent functionality for building FreeBSD world and kernel? When I

Re: portmaster best practices

2012-01-23 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 23 January 2012 05:32, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Hello portmaster users, > > If portaudit shows that some installed packages have vulnerabilities, > what do you usually do? > > Do you upgrade only the vulnerable packages, or vulnerable packages > and dependent packages (portmaster -r), or perhaps

Re: kgzip(8) regression in RELENG_9 GENERIC

2012-01-23 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 01/23/2012 11:26 AM, Carl Johnson wrote: > On my system: > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD birch.localnet 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 > 07:46:30 UTC 2012 > r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > $ whereis kgzip > kgzip: /usr/src/usr.sbin/kgzip > $ gre

Re: kgzip(8) regression in RELENG_9 GENERIC

2012-01-23 Thread Carl Johnson
Devin Teske writes: > On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:56 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >> On 01/23/2012 12:30 AM, Devin Teske wrote: >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 1:41 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: >>> On 01/20/2012 09:02 PM, Devin Teske wrote: > Taking a GENERIC 9.0-RELEASE kernel and running kgzi

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread Mark Felder
I've recently been presented with new information: namely that RC3 had sysinstall as an option (I did not know this, and I've been reading the lists) and that it was taken away for -RELEASE even though it was agreed upon that would not happen for 9.x. I'll crawl under this rock now. __

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:40:42 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:27:32 -0600 Mark Felder articulated: Just as you don't get to express your opinion about the government if you don't vote, Excuse me, but are you just trying to look naive? The wording wasn't exactly as clear as it should

Re: TAB not jumping to OK in options screen

2012-01-23 Thread n dhert
Well, I wanted the output to be logged, so in fact I did # make install clean | tee /tmp/xorg-install.txt Now, I tried again without the | tee ... and there wasn't a problem now ... But the | tee shouldn't be a problem, since in my script I run every week for a number of years already to do po

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:27:32 -0600 Mark Felder articulated: > Just as you don't get to express your opinion about the government if > you don't vote, Excuse me, but are you just trying to look naive? -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ig

Re: kgzip(8) regression in RELENG_9 GENERIC

2012-01-23 Thread Devin Teske
On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:56 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > On 01/23/2012 12:30 AM, Devin Teske wrote: >> >> On Jan 21, 2012, at 1:41 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: >> >>> On 01/20/2012 09:02 PM, Devin Teske wrote: Taking a GENERIC 9.0-RELEASE kernel and running kgzip(8) on it produces an un

Re: problem to kill -KILL process

2012-01-23 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
Коньков Евгений wrote: Hi # ps ax|grep rad 45471 ?? T Looks like some bad things happen. Try kill -19 45471 to continue radiusd execution, maybe that helps. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list ht

Re: freebsd-update and archs

2012-01-23 Thread Colin Percival
On 01/23/12 06:59, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Colin Percival wrote: >> On 01/22/12 03:45, Christer Solskogen wrote: >>> I just did, and the file list is the same. Or do you want me to do a >>> md5 of every file? >> >> Yes, I meant to compare the contents of files

Re: portmaster best practices

2012-01-23 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
Victor Sudakov wrote: Hello portmaster users, If portaudit shows that some installed packages have vulnerabilities, what do you usually do? Greatly depend on where am I. All my systems are staying up-to-date whereas when I'm visiting someones system I prefer to update only required pieces of

Makeopts DEBUG=-g kernel option

2012-01-23 Thread Dirk Kotze
Hi there I'm experiencing the following problem: All is we= ll when I boot the standard FreeBSD 8.2 GENERIC kernel. The moment howeve= r when I comment out the line the line below, the kernel hangs upon boot after detecting the em0 device (the motherboard has 2 Intel 8257x dual

Re: freebsd-update and archs

2012-01-23 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Colin Percival wrote: > On 01/22/12 03:45, Christer Solskogen wrote: >> I just did, and the file list is the same. Or do you want me to do a >> md5 of every file? > > Yes, I meant to compare the contents of files (or their hashes of course). Here you go: http://an

Re: Clang - what is the story?

2012-01-23 Thread Matthew Story
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:01 PM, wrote: > kpn...@pobox.com wrote: > > > Lattice C > > Later bought out by Microsoft IIRC > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe,

Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9)

2012-01-23 Thread Mark Felder
All of these complaints can go directly to /dev/null Just as you don't get to express your opinion about the government if you don't vote, you don't get to express your opinion about -RELEASE changes when you didn't run the STABLE/RC/BETAs. You had your chance to help improve FreeBSD for ev

Re: TAB not jumping to OK in options screen

2012-01-23 Thread claudiu vasadi
Hi, I've never experienced anything similar but one workaround is to edit the "Makefile:" and change the "Off" to "On" for the options you need, and the other way around for the options you don;t need. Still, the real problem eludes me and that;s the one that needs fixing. -- Best regards, Cl

Re: freebsd-update and archs

2012-01-23 Thread Colin Percival
On 01/22/12 03:45, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Colin Percival wrote: >> Try doing a release cross-build and compare it against a non-crossed release >> build; extract the built tarballs and send me a list of which ones aren't >> identical. I know which files "norm

TAB not jumping to OK in options screen

2012-01-23 Thread n dhert
I installed a new FreeBSD-8.2 system and installed a few ports, no problem Then I do want to install Xorg # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg # make install clean At the package libxslt 1.1.26_3 it gives me an options screen. I hit TAB to go to the OK button, but it just moves the cursor 8 postions to the rig

SV: php5 port seems broken

2012-01-23 Thread Hasse Hansson
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] På vegne af Tim Kellers Sendt: den 23 januari 2012 02:04 Til: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Emne: Re: php5 port seems broken On 1/22/12 7:50 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote: > Hello again,

kqueue and filenames

2012-01-23 Thread Info
Hi, I'm using kqueue for detecting file-events; for additional information I add a struct to udata, when registering an event with kevent. When I delete an event, will be udata deleted too, or do I have to manage the memory for the structs with an own implementation? kevent is triggered when a

portmaster best practices

2012-01-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Hello portmaster users, If portaudit shows that some installed packages have vulnerabilities, what do you usually do? Do you upgrade only the vulnerable packages, or vulnerable packages and dependent packages (portmaster -r), or perhaps all packages (portmaster -a)? Or do you "pkg_delete -a" all

Re: Clang - what is the story?

2012-01-23 Thread perryh
kpn...@pobox.com wrote: > Lattice C Later bought out by Microsoft IIRC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: php5 port seems broken

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Powell
Tim Kellers wrote: > On 1/22/12 5:35 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> I'm attempting to install php5 from my ports tree. I've attempted the >> latest version ( 5.3.9 located in /usr/ports/lang/php5) and the 'latest >> stable' (5.2.17 located in /usr/ports/lang/php52). The result is

Re: kgzip(8) regression in RELENG_9 GENERIC

2012-01-23 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 01/23/2012 12:30 AM, Devin Teske wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2012, at 1:41 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >> On 01/20/2012 09:02 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >>> Taking a GENERIC 9.0-RELEASE kernel and running kgzip(8) on it produces an >>> unusable kernel which causes immediate BTX halt in loader(8). >>>

Re: Clang - what is the story?

2012-01-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 22/01/2012 22:53, Da Rock wrote: > What part is that? I thought it had to be all c... Not at all. clang and llvm are themselves written in C++. However, it's groff that Roland mentioned as the canonical example of C++ in base. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.P