NFS locking and linux NFS server
Hi all! I have a Linux Host (2.6.32 kernel, Debian stable) providong NFS shares. Locking files on that share works fine for linux clients [0] while it fails on a freebsd 9.0-STABLE system. The interwebs indicate there have been problems witha buggy linux implementation back in 2006 but no more hits for that problem in recent times so I assume it's fixed? root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:27 0 # kldstat -v | grep nfs 341 nfscommon 386 nfslockd 344 nfsd 385 nfssvc 342 nfs 343 nfscl 384 nfslock root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:28 0 # flock test -c ls flock: test: Operation not supported root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:31 0 # mount | grep nfs 10.70.255.8:/home/ on /mnt/ (nfs) Regards Christoph [0] flock test -c ls -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Intercepting X11 events
I'm not 100% sure where else to ask this. I have an annoying window that disappears when I click close (ha ha, yes I know it will usually do that, but this one doesn't go away) but it is unable to cooperate with the system tray so it simply becomes invisible, and hangs about in the background. In my investigationings I had a brainwave that since I cannot change the program (not without enormous effort) in the short term, maybe I can find a way to terminate the program and manage it externally with a script. So I'm looking to find a wrapper, or a script that can intercept the close event and kill the process (can't find a better way to handle it). Any ideas? The DE is lightweight (Icewm, LXDE, similar) so the tray is either non existent or incompatible; the app itself is (#%$!) java. Yep, thats right - it only speaks Gnome/KDE... Cheers Afterword: And yes, it took me that long to figure out the Java systray problem and the lack of a solution in my googling. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS locking and linux NFS server
On 03/25/12 23:59, Christoph Egger wrote: Hi all! I have a Linux Host (2.6.32 kernel, Debian stable) providong NFS shares. Locking files on that share works fine for linux clients [0] while it fails on a freebsd 9.0-STABLE system. The interwebs indicate there have been problems witha buggy linux implementation back in 2006 but no more hits for that problem in recent times so I assume it's fixed? root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:27 0 # kldstat -v | grep nfs 341 nfscommon 386 nfslockd 344 nfsd 385 nfssvc 342 nfs 343 nfscl 384 nfslock root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:28 0 # flock test -c ls flock: test: Operation not supported root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:31 0 # mount | grep nfs 10.70.255.8:/home/ on /mnt/ (nfs) This may or may not be helpful, but I can't think of anything else at this time: what version NFS on both sides? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS locking and linux NFS server
Hi! Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au writes: On 03/25/12 23:59, Christoph Egger wrote: Hi all! I have a Linux Host (2.6.32 kernel, Debian stable) providong NFS shares. Locking files on that share works fine for linux clients [0] while it fails on a freebsd 9.0-STABLE system. The interwebs indicate there have been problems witha buggy linux implementation back in 2006 but no more hits for that problem in recent times so I assume it's fixed? root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:27 0 # kldstat -v | grep nfs 341 nfscommon 386 nfslockd 344 nfsd 385 nfssvc 342 nfs 343 nfscl 384 nfslock root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:28 0 # flock test -c ls flock: test: Operation not supported root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:31 0 # mount | grep nfs 10.70.255.8:/home/ on /mnt/ (nfs) This may or may not be helpful, but I can't think of anything else at this time: what version NFS on both sides? NFSv3 on both sides Regards Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem gnome2-2.32.1_4 not work libgcrypt-1.5.0 (freebsd 8.2 release)
Доброго дня. Hi, I use freebsd version 8.2-RELEASE, installed graphical shell gnome2-2.32.1_4, works without problems, I am satisfied, but that the problem appeared when I put the package remmina-0.9.3_1. But is the problem is that the package remmina-0.9.3_1 requires the presence of the package libgcrypt-1.5.0, and not work with the package libgcrypt-1.4.6, but gnome2-2.32.1_4 not work with libgcrypt-1.5.0 requires libgcrypt-1.4 .6. What to do? З повагою Андріан IT-послуги моб.: (067) 713 78 01 моб.: (063) 704 22 44 веб.: http://andrian.no-ip.info e-mail: andr...@andrian.no-ip.info ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem gnome2-2.32.1_4 not work libgcrypt-1.5.0 (freebsd 8.2 release)
On 25/03/2012 15:49, Андріан wrote: Hi, I use freebsd version 8.2-RELEASE, installed graphical shell gnome2-2.32.1_4, works without problems, I am satisfied, but that the problem appeared when I put the package remmina-0.9.3_1. But is the problem is that the package remmina-0.9.3_1 requires the presence of the package libgcrypt-1.5.0, and not work with the package libgcrypt-1.4.6, but gnome2-2.32.1_4 not work with libgcrypt-1.5.0 requires libgcrypt-1.4 .6. What to do? That's because the libgcrypt ABI version was incremented between 1.4.6 and 1.5.0 The standard approach to dealing with this is to recompile every port that contains applications linking against that shared library. The detailed instructions on how best to do that are in the 20110705 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: clang buildworld broken
Fixed now in stable/9. r233468 | marius | 2012-03-25 11:24:42 -0500 (Sun, 25 Mar 2012) | 6 lines MFC: r233105 Declare some variables static in order to reduce the object size and redo r232822 (MFC'ed to stable/9 in r232962) in a less hackish way. The latter now no longer breaks compiling the x86 boot2 with clang. r233467 | marius | 2012-03-25 11:20:01 -0500 (Sun, 25 Mar 2012) | 7 lines MFC: r232754 (remaining part) Make boot2 build with Clang again. Submitted by: dim (bsd.sys.mk) Reviewed by:dim, jhb -- James. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Intercepting X11 events
On Mar 25, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Da Rock wrote: I'm not 100% sure where else to ask this. I have an annoying window that disappears when I click close (ha ha, yes I know it will usually do that, but this one doesn't go away) but it is unable to cooperate with the system tray so it simply becomes invisible, and hangs about in the background. In my investigationings I had a brainwave that since I cannot change the program (not without enormous effort) in the short term, maybe I can find a way to terminate the program and manage it externally with a script. So I'm looking to find a wrapper, or a script that can intercept the close event and kill the process (can't find a better way to handle it). Any ideas? I think you want x11/xnee from the ports tree. http://www.freshports.org/x11/xnee/ (blurb) … Xnee receives X11 protocol data (e.g. XEvents) from an X server and prints them to a file (or stout)… I'd think you'd be able to watch for the particular Event you're interested in. Another think you may want to look into is Full disclosure: Haven't used Xnee yet, but it has been on my radar as something cool to look into for awhile now. -- Devin The DE is lightweight (Icewm, LXDE, similar) so the tray is either non existent or incompatible; the app itself is (#%$!) java. Yep, thats right - it only speaks Gnome/KDE... Cheers Afterword: And yes, it took me that long to figure out the Java systray problem and the lack of a solution in my googling. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Intercepting X11 events
On Mar 25, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On Mar 25, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Da Rock wrote: I'm not 100% sure where else to ask this. I have an annoying window that disappears when I click close (ha ha, yes I know it will usually do that, but this one doesn't go away) but it is unable to cooperate with the system tray so it simply becomes invisible, and hangs about in the background. In my investigationings I had a brainwave that since I cannot change the program (not without enormous effort) in the short term, maybe I can find a way to terminate the program and manage it externally with a script. So I'm looking to find a wrapper, or a script that can intercept the close event and kill the process (can't find a better way to handle it). Any ideas? I think you want x11/xnee from the ports tree. http://www.freshports.org/x11/xnee/ (blurb) … Xnee receives X11 protocol data (e.g. XEvents) from an X server and prints them to a file (or stout)… I'd think you'd be able to watch for the particular Event you're interested in. Another think you may want to look into is Sorry, had a whole list of cool X11 ports (like xpra, xmx, and xwatchwin), but they didn't fit what you're looking for. No, I think x11/xnee is what you're looking for. -- Devin Full disclosure: Haven't used Xnee yet, but it has been on my radar as something cool to look into for awhile now. -- Devin The DE is lightweight (Icewm, LXDE, similar) so the tray is either non existent or incompatible; the app itself is (#%$!) java. Yep, thats right - it only speaks Gnome/KDE... Cheers Afterword: And yes, it took me that long to figure out the Java systray problem and the lack of a solution in my googling. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Libreoffice daemon in rc script does not work (shell expansion problem)
Hi,
I am trying to make an rc script to start libreoffice daemon. The aim is
convert Open Document files to PDF, HTML and TXT.
The script is the following:
#!/bin/sh
#
# PROVIDE: libreoffice
# REQUIRE: LOGIN cleanvar usr
# KEYWORD: shutdown
. /etc/rc.subr
soffice_path=/usr/local/lib/libreoffice/program
name=soffice
#soffice_user=svn
procname=${soffice_path}/oosplash.bin
rcvar=`set_rcvar`
pidfile=/var/run/${name}.pid
command=/usr/sbin/daemon
command_args=-p $pidfile
command_args=$command_args ${soffice_path}/${name}
command_args=$command_args
'--accept=socket,host=golem,port=8100,tcpNoDelay=1;urp'
command_args=$command_args --nologo --headless --nofirststartwizard
--invisible
command_args=$command_args --nolockcheck --norestore
stop_precmd=${name}_prestop
soffice_prestop(){
# kill first child process
pkill -P `cat $pidfile`
}
load_rc_config $name
run_rc_command $1
This script works nicely, and starts libreoffice as a root daemon. But
I need to start it as another user (svn), thus I comment out the line
#soffice_user=svn
After that, something weird happens with then internal expasion in rc
functions, and I get:
# service soffice restart
Starting soffice.
Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
eval: urp --nologo --headless --nofirststartwizard --invisible --nolockcheck
--norestore: not found
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/soffice: WARNING: failed to start soffice
I am unable to fix this... I am trying escaping quotes, using
backslashes, etc.
Any advice will be wellcome.
Best regards
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Performance of Geli compared to Luks
Hello everyone, My HP Proliant Microserver, which I want to use as a NAS, is using an AMD Turion II Neo N40L processor. The plain disks give me about 100 MB/s using filebench with the fivestreamwrite/multistreamwrite workloads (as software RAID-1 under Linux and zpool mirror under FreeBSD). In Linux, using LUKS with cipher aes-xts-plain64 on a software RAID-1 I get the same ~100 MB/s for the same benchmarks. In FreeBSD, using a mirror zfs pool with underlying GELI with AES-XTS I get only ~50 MB/s. As the encryption algorithms should be the same, I'm wondering why FreeBSD is that slow for nearly exactly the same use case. Any ideas how I could tweak my settings in FreeBSD? Regards, -- Moritz Schlarb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
LUKS/ dm-crypt/ ext4 appears to be single threaded
freebsd-questions: Thread moved from debian-user and dm-crypt. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/03/msg01154.html http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.device-mapper.dm-crypt/5724 I seem to recall FreeBSD having encrypted disks/ filesystems/ whatever. Is there one that is multi-threaded? TIA, David I have a 1.5 TB SATA hard drive I use for back-up's. It has a single large partition encrypted with LUKS/ dm-crypt and formatted with ext4. I've noticed what appears to be single-threaded behavior when one process is performing a long-lived write to the disk (notably 'ssh user@host tar ... backupfile.tar.gz') and another process attempts to access the disk (either read or write). This is tolerable for a back-up application, but would not be acceptable for multi-user, multi-process, and/or multi-threaded applications (file server, terminal server, web server, etc.). Is this a fundamental limitation of LUKS, dm-crypt, and/or ext4, or something I've configured/ misconfigured? If a fundamental limitation, is there something I can substitute to eliminate the problem? Some manufacturers make hard drives with built-in encryption. Are these supported by Debian, Linux, or BSD? http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/self-encrypting-drives/ Any other comments or suggestions? TIA, David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Libreoffice daemon in rc script does not work (shell expansion problem)
On 25/03/12 19:22, Jose Garcia Juanino wrote: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string I'm new here, so bear with me, just trying to help. To find an unterminated quoted string, I would suggest loading your script into a programmers editor. Keith -- Sent from Free Open Source Software (FOSS). Debian GNU/Linux ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Performance of Geli compared to Luks
In the last episode (Mar 25), Moritz Schlarb said: My HP Proliant Microserver, which I want to use as a NAS, is using an AMD Turion II Neo N40L processor. The plain disks give me about 100 MB/s using filebench with the fivestreamwrite/multistreamwrite workloads (as software RAID-1 under Linux and zpool mirror under FreeBSD). In Linux, using LUKS with cipher aes-xts-plain64 on a software RAID-1 I get the same ~100 MB/s for the same benchmarks. In FreeBSD, using a mirror zfs pool with underlying GELI with AES-XTS I get only ~50 MB/s. As the encryption algorithms should be the same, I'm wondering why FreeBSD is that slow for nearly exactly the same use case. Any ideas how I could tweak my settings in FreeBSD? As a first step, I'd try reading/writing from the raw GELI and LUKS devices to rule out performance differences due to the filesystems you're using. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS locking and linux NFS server
In the last episode (Mar 25), Christoph Egger said: Hi all! I have a Linux Host (2.6.32 kernel, Debian stable) providong NFS shares. Locking files on that share works fine for linux clients [0] while it fails on a freebsd 9.0-STABLE system. The interwebs indicate there have been problems witha buggy linux implementation back in 2006 but no more hits for that problem in recent times so I assume it's fixed? root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:27 0 # kldstat -v | grep nfs 341 nfscommon 386 nfslockd 344 nfsd 385 nfssvc 342 nfs 343 nfscl 384 nfslock root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:28 0 # flock test -c ls flock: test: Operation not supported root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:31 0 # mount | grep nfs 10.70.255.8:/home/ on /mnt/ (nfs) Are you running statd and lockd (in rc.conf, rpc_statd_enable=YES and rpc_lockd_enable=YES)? Make sure that rpcinfo localhost and rpcinfo otherhost both show nlockmgr and status services. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Vivaldi Tablet
With a large portion of the open source community looking towards the Vivaldi Tablet as the push for mobile linux, I was curious if there was any plans to make an official push to put something together for this tablet. It is alot to ask from FreeBSD, but to put it bluntly, the more this tablet can offer the better it will be. Support from FreeBSD on this tablet would be a wonderful addition to the community being built around this tablet, and I hope to see FreeBSD on board in the near future. -John Kelley (Skippy) @ Opentablets.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS locking and linux NFS server
Hi! Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com writes: Are you running statd and lockd (in rc.conf, rpc_statd_enable=YES and rpc_lockd_enable=YES)? Make sure that rpcinfo localhost and rpcinfo otherhost both show nlockmgr and status services. it was missing nfs_client_enable=YES Thanks everyone for the answers! Regards Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Off-Topic: Computing for the Blind
Apologies for the off topic posting but my stepfather is blind and he wants my advice about how to get online. I have no idea where to start looking for information on hardware and/or software for him. However, I vaguely remember someone on this list saying they were visually impaired. If I'm remembering correctly, I'd really appreciate it if that person would get in touch with me. Thanks Barbara ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 03/26/12 06:49, Skippy 311 wrote: With a large portion of the open source community looking towards the Vivaldi Tablet as the push for mobile linux, The site reminds me of someone organising a large party and no one showing up :) I was curious if there was any plans to make an official push to put something together for this tablet. It is alot to ask from FreeBSD, but to put it bluntly, the more this tablet can offer the better it will be. Support from FreeBSD on this tablet would be a wonderful addition to the community being built around this tablet, and I hope to see FreeBSD on board in the near future. FreeBSD on a tablet would be an interesting idea. Not sure about this one though... Looks like one of those ones going on eBay for $50. You can always grab one of those and hack it to run FBSD. Perhaps this should go to embedded though? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Off-Topic: Computing for the Blind
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:33:05 +1100, Barbara La Scala wrote: Apologies for the off topic posting but my stepfather is blind and he wants my advice about how to get online. I have no idea where to start looking for information on hardware and/or software for him. However, I vaguely remember someone on this list saying they were visually impaired. If I'm remembering correctly, I'd really appreciate it if that person would get in touch with me. The old-fashioned way to enable blind persons to use a computer for getting online involves a way to read text. This can be done basically in two ways: a) The user has a Braille readout right infront of his keyboard. This is usually a one or two line combination of 40 or 80 characters width, with electromagnetic Braille mountain matrices (6 or 8 dot code). This line can display one line of screen text. Which line (out of the 25 on the screen) can be selected by a slider on the side. +--+ | Suche Bilder Videos Maps News| | | | Google | | Deutschland| ---selection---+ | | | | __ | | | Search Good luck! | | | | | | | | | H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o| | +--+ | | __ . ...| .. __ ... | .. __ ... | .. _...__ | .. __.___ . | .. __._.._.__ ... __.. | | | :::###: ---output--+ (Deutschland) b) The user uses a similar selection mechanism as with the Braille readout, but a synthetic voice will read the text. Speed and volume can be controlled. (This is also available as a pure software solution!) Most blind persons (I've met) seem to be fine with variant a) as it fits their reading habits, their speed, their experience. The input method of choice is the keyboard, as it (obviously) does not need any visual confirmation. The travelling distance for the fingers from typing to reading (and back) is acceptable. For purchasing the hardware, I would suggest to consult the web for some search, and then maybe attend a local specialized store to obtain the devices. They tend to be a bit expensive. Make sure to get hardware specs: How is it connected? Does it require proprietary drivers? Does it work with normal text screens? Niche market... :-( Now for the software. In order to get the text to the Braille readout, you need software that runs in text mode. On FreeBSD, this is the default mode (unless you install GUI tools). Getting online is very easy (see The FreeBSD Handbook), and everything you now need is a web browser. Recommendations: links, lynx, w3m. For participating in email, I may recommend alpine (pine), but there are many other powerful text mode mail clients that one could try and find the most comfortable one. Other services, such as IRC, News, or messenger services can also be used. Just to throw some program names into the wild: irc, BitchX, tin, elm, centericq. The ports collection offers a wide choice of programs for FreeBSD. Configure the OS to accomodate to the needs of the Internet connection (DHCP, PPPoE, dial-up, WLAN - whatever is present). A confortable dialog shell is also useful to quickly communicate with the computer and launch the programs that the user wants to use. Maybe a preconfigured environment (with selections such as mail, web, news, chat as command words) is a good idea. One last thing: Regarding the modern web, don't assume you'll find many pages that are accessible by blind persons. Just try some average web pages in one of the text mode web browsers mentioned. They only work well when the person who has made the web page did pay attention to make it accessible by handicapped users. This is something that is mostly forgotten today, and the tendency with rich web applications is that unrestricted access to _content_ will be less and less common. Artificial barriers are raised by teh Interwebs progammerz abusing tools (e. g. Flash as a replacement for few lines of HTML). The tendency is that it's just getting worse and worse, sadly... I hope I could give you some inspiration on where to start
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 26/03/2012 01:29, Da Rock wrote: On 03/26/12 06:49, Skippy 311 wrote: With a large portion of the open source community looking towards the Vivaldi Tablet as the push for mobile linux, The site reminds me of someone organising a large party and no one showing up :) Indeed, I felt very alone going there too. I was curious if there was any plans to make an official push to put something together for this tablet. It is alot to ask from FreeBSD, but to put it bluntly, the more this tablet can offer the better it will be. Support from FreeBSD on this tablet would be a wonderful addition to the community being built around this tablet, and I hope to see FreeBSD on board in the near future. FreeBSD on a tablet would be an interesting idea. Not sure about this one though... Looks like one of those ones going on eBay for $50. You can always grab one of those and hack it to run FBSD. The main problem (though it is actually a FreeBSD strength) is that most FreeBSD dev code to solve their own problems. I don not think I am wrong when I say that a vast majority of FreeBSD contributor are also heavy users of the functionalities they code. So the question is Are there enough FreeBSD dev that see any kind of interest in having a tablet ?. Personally I still don't, even though quite a lot of people tried to explain it to me. Also the site lacks the main thing that could get the FreeBSD community on the spot : specs. I managed to learn it was a 1ghz ARM with 512MB ram and 4GB storage, and that is about it. Arm architecture being what it is (basically whatever the constructor decided to use at that moment with no standard as to how he did it) there is absolutely no way to start any kind of port short of reverse engeniring the linux version. My personal opinion is not worth the trouble. Perhaps this should go to embedded though? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
need help in freebsd
hi there, i need your help in freebsd regards, Stanley papua new guinea ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need help in freebsd
On 03/25/2012 04:36 PM, Stanley Aisi wrote: hi there, i need your help in freebsd regards, Stanley papua new guinea ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org One is seeking the wrong kind of help... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html#AEN114 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need help in freebsd
Hi, On Monday 26 March 2012 06:36:35 Stanley Aisi wrote: hi there, i need your help in freebsd you found the right place to get help but you have to be a bit more specific. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
Jerome Herman wrote: On 26/03/2012 01:29, Da Rock wrote: On 03/26/12 06:49, Skippy 311 wrote: With a large portion of the open source community looking towards the Vivaldi Tablet as the push for mobile linux, The site reminds me of someone organising a large party and no one showing up :) Indeed, I felt very alone going there too. yuppers. I was curious if there was any plans to make an official push to put something together for this tablet. Considering that FreeBS positions itself 'primrily' as a _server_ OS, I would suggest that it is 'unlikely'. *I*, for one, would hope that porting to the 'Rasberry Pi' has higher priority. Now, if somebody in the 'Vivaldi' community wants to gather up _all_ the relevant 'technical data' for configuring/accessing/programming *ALL* the included hardware, and -publish- it in one EASILY ACCESSIBLE place, that would be a good start. If such a somebody were to _also_ provide 'funding' for a porting project, that would undoubtedly move such a project to a high position on the 'to do' list'. Otherwise, Skippy, you, -YOURSELF-. will need to find a 'guru' with the appropriate knowledge/skills *and* enough interest' in the project to tackle it. Good Luck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need help in freebsd
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 09:36:35AM +1000, Stanley Aisi wrote: hi there, i need your help in freebsd regards, Stanley papua new guinea ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Go on... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 03/26/12 09:39, Jerome Herman wrote: On 26/03/2012 01:29, Da Rock wrote: On 03/26/12 06:49, Skippy 311 wrote: With a large portion of the open source community looking towards the Vivaldi Tablet as the push for mobile linux, The site reminds me of someone organising a large party and no one showing up :) Indeed, I felt very alone going there too. I was curious if there was any plans to make an official push to put something together for this tablet. It is alot to ask from FreeBSD, but to put it bluntly, the more this tablet can offer the better it will be. Support from FreeBSD on this tablet would be a wonderful addition to the community being built around this tablet, and I hope to see FreeBSD on board in the near future. FreeBSD on a tablet would be an interesting idea. Not sure about this one though... Looks like one of those ones going on eBay for $50. You can always grab one of those and hack it to run FBSD. The main problem (though it is actually a FreeBSD strength) is that most FreeBSD dev code to solve their own problems. I don not think I am wrong when I say that a vast majority of FreeBSD contributor are also heavy users of the functionalities they code. So the question is Are there enough FreeBSD dev that see any kind of interest in having a tablet ?. Personally I still don't, even though quite a lot of people tried to explain it to me. Also the site lacks the main thing that could get the FreeBSD community on the spot : specs. I managed to learn it was a 1ghz ARM with 512MB ram and 4GB storage, and that is about it. Arm architecture being what it is (basically whatever the constructor decided to use at that moment with no standard as to how he did it) there is absolutely no way to start any kind of port short of reverse engeniring the linux version. My personal opinion is not worth the trouble. I'm still weighing up the options, but I would. A few barriers to surmount though... Perhaps this should go to embedded though? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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