Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 19 May 2012, Polytropon wrote:


3.  The Xorg man page notes that  should cause it to
exit.  However, it doesn't, and I had to use kill -TERM.  Any hints on
why  doesn't cause it to exit?


This is also a new default to _not_ work anymore. You have more
than two (if I remember correctly) options in making it work.
You'll find them in the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

One possibility when X has been compiled _without_ HAL support
(and no hald running), placing

Option "DontZap" "false"

into the "ServerLayout" section should work. Additionally, I see
that I have

Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"

in the "InputDevice" section of "Keyboard0". It "just" works. :-)


This should work whether or not HAL is installed or running.
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Re: AFS install

2012-05-19 Thread Benjamin Kaduk

On Wed, 16 May 2012, Jerry McAllister wrote:


On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:51:04AM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

Hello Ben,

Thank you for your response.

I cleaned and then copied the 82 file to 83 and then edited it
to replace all 82-s with 83 or added it where there seemed to be
a list of versions.   It got a lot further, but now dies not finding
another file.

 ../rpc/types.h:77:27: error: rpc/netconfig.h: No such file or directory


Ah, I see what is going on.  This is an artifact of the old build system I 
inherited, which is no longer used for OpenAFS git master; unfortunately, 
the new code (which uses FreeBSD's standard kernel module building 
infrastructure) is not directly mergable to the OpenAFS 1.6.x branch, so 
the release version is still using the old build system.


The "proper" way to fix it is to clean the work tree, redo the copying 
param.amd64_fbsd_82.h file, and then find this part of 
openafs-1.6.0/src/libafs/MakefileProto.FBSD.in:

%-ln -fs ${KSRC}/nfs nfs
%
%-ln -fs /usr/include/rpc rpc
%
%-ln -fs ${KSRC}/rpc rpc
%
which is doing conditionals on the particular FreeBSD version to account 
for moved headers, instead of a more intelligent version number 
comparison.  Add "-fbsd_83" to the first line ("all -fbsd_71 [...]")
and "fbsd_83" to the second one ("fbsd_71 fbsd_72 [...]"), and then a 
build should get past this issue.


However, if you just want it to build now, I think there is an easier fix. 
(I'm not 100% sure, since there are some ... weird ... things going on in 
this build system, and I haven't played with it recently.)

Edit openafs-1.6.0/src/libafs/Makefile and find the line that has
"-ln -fs /usr/include/rpc rpc"
and change that to be
"-ln -fs ${KSRC}/rpc rpc"
instead (preserving the tab character at the beginning of the line).  I 
expect that to let the build continue.


Again, sorry for all these troubles; I'll bump up the priority of getting 
the port updated.


-Ben Kaduk
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Re: problems with networking and route command

2012-05-19 Thread Derek Ragona

At 07:07 AM 5/18/2012, David Banning wrote:
> > It is machines that connect and receive via DHCP 192.168.1.2 and 
above that

> > can't connect to the internet though the server.  I don't know a whole
> > lot about route - I have been attempting a variation of route commands
> > without success.
>
> You need to implement NAT on this box, since 192.168.0.0/16 is an 
RFC-1918 unrouteable private network range.


I previously connected to the internet using ppp with the -nat option
and now my connection has changed - so that makes sense.

So I implemented natd.

Unfortunately natd does not work as yet.  I followed the setup as laid
out in "man natd" and also used the layout in;

http://www.freebsddiary.org/ipfw.php

Here is my natd setup

1. Compiled IPFIREWALL & IPDIVERT into my kernel - went fine.

Here is my rc.conf network related entries;

natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="rl0"
natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
gateway_enable="YES"
ifconfig_rl0="inet 64.40.244.36 netmask 255.255.255.240"
defaultrouter="64.40.244.33"
ifconfig_vr0="DHCP"
ifconfig_vr0=up
ifconfig_vr0="inet 192.168.1.1"
network_interfaces="rl0 vr0 lo0"
ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_script="/etc/firewall.rules"
firewall_type="simple"
firewall_logging="YES"
dhcpd_ifaces="vr0"
dhcpd_enable="YES"

My firewall rules;

ipfw add 64000 allow ip from any to any
ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via rl0
ipfw add allow tcp from any to 192.168.2.1 139
ipfw add allow tcp from any to 192.168.1.1 139
ipfw add 6000 deny tcp from any to 64.40.244.36 139
ipfw add 6010 deny tcp from any to 64.40.244.36 445
ipfw add deny tcp from any to any 139

My /etc/natd.conf;

interface rl0
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes

My /etc/services includes the line;

natd 8668/divert  # Network Address Translation socket

Output of ifconfig;

# ifconfig
fwe0: flags=8802 mtu 1500
ether 02:11:d8:b3:0e:43
ch 1 dma -1
vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
inet6 fe80::16d6:4dff:fe47:88ae%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
ether 14:d6:4d:47:88:ae
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
status: active
rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
inet 64.40.244.36 netmask 0xfff0 broadcast 64.40.244.47
inet6 fe80::211:95ff:fe66:7162%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
ether 00:11:95:66:71:62
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
status: active
lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500
sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552
faith0: flags=8002 mtu 1500

>From my initial communication I have swapped the uses of the two network
cards - which explains the reversal of entries for devices vr0 and rl0.
Still I have server connection to the internet on rl0 and server
connection to the network on vr0 - but the network cannot connect
to the internet via rl0.

If there are any commands that would help collect information leading
to the answer I would appreciate any feedback.




Try using the examples here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html

That freebsddiary article is very old, and many versions ago.  Essentially 
you need to forward the packets from your NAT'd private interface over to 
the interface on the internet.


You can try this using an open firewall, sending all packets to test the 
setup.  Then add rules to lock it down to only the ports you want to allow.


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Re: Wine for Diablo 3 on FreeBSD 9.0R amd64

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M

On 05/19/2012 02:28 PM, lokada...@gmx.de wrote:

On 05/17/12 07:54, Любомир Григоров wrote:

We have to wait, unfortunately. I am using a Linux partition with Wine
meanwhile. As long as it's not mainstream, it will be hard to do. Not to
mention port is at 1.4.

FreeBSD have 2 wine- ports. :)
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=wine-1&stype=all&sektion=all
wine for 1.4 and wine-devel for 1.5

But i can't help with Diablo 3.
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a user is trying  but  at the moment  is plague with wine errors.

   http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15659
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Re: openoffice doesn't work - any ideas?

2012-05-19 Thread User Wojtek

the problem is that what i found is not this.

all description i found is that deleting .openoffice* from $HOME fixes it. 
it doesn't. i even created new user with no leftover any config files and 
still same.


On Sat, 19 May 2012, lokada...@gmx.de wrote:


On 05/19/12 13:24, User Wojtek wrote:

[wojtek@wojtek ~/robod]$ openoffice-3.4.0
[Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument 
(elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
terminate called after throwing an instance of 
'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'



compiled fine, installed without problems jdk 1.6 too.

any ideas? thanks
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Google find many things with "javaldx failed".
Is a problem with java, but different solutions (wrong xml, home permission, 
java- version ...).


Hope you find a solution.
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Re: Wine for Diablo 3 on FreeBSD 9.0R amd64

2012-05-19 Thread lokada...@gmx.de

On 05/17/12 07:54, Любомир Григоров wrote:

We have to wait, unfortunately. I am using a Linux partition with Wine
meanwhile. As long as it's not mainstream, it will be hard to do. Not to
mention port is at 1.4.

FreeBSD have 2 wine- ports. :)
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=wine-1&stype=all&sektion=all
wine for 1.4 and wine-devel for 1.5

But i can't help with Diablo 3.
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Re: openoffice doesn't work - any ideas?

2012-05-19 Thread lokada...@gmx.de

On 05/19/12 13:24, User Wojtek wrote:

[wojtek@wojtek ~/robod]$ openoffice-3.4.0
[Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument 
(elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
terminate called after throwing an instance of 
'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'



compiled fine, installed without problems jdk 1.6 too.

any ideas? thanks
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Google find many things with "javaldx failed".
Is a problem with java, but different solutions (wrong xml, home 
permission, java- version ...).


Hope you find a solution.
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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread doug

On Sat, 19 May 2012, Polytropon wrote:


On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Beastie-Boy wrote:

Ok, many thanks for your replies.
I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE.
That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk.


When you do such an update (major version number), you should
always reinstall (update) your applications. You can avoid it
by installing the compat-Nx-i386 or compat-Nx-amd64 ports (where
N is the previously used major version number).

You've found many advices on how to do that already from the
list.

The problem i had was that gdm, gnome didnt start after the upgrade.


That was to be expected.


So i tried to build the gnome and gdm thing again via pkg_add(didnt work)
and make install clean in ports(either).


You should make sure _all_ dependencies get recompiled. Using
a port management tool for this task often is more comfortable
than dealing with the "bare ports" (but it basically is not
wrong).


There are two great tools for dealing with problems stemming from the update of 
a single port going bad: pkg_cleanup and pkg_tree. I prefer portmaster over 
portupdate because portmaster only uses the data that is there from building or 
adding port/packages. portmaster probably works better for me because I only 
update in response to a need or problem.


I do not have enough time or computing power to build what is required for a 
workstation. I am using FreeBSD 9.0 and xfce 4.8. To get the functionality I had 
with KDE3.5 I ended up with 489 packages. I had hoped for a smaller number but 
that seems to be the norm for KDE or Gome. The only ports I built were a couple 
that insisted on installing an older version of perl and/or python. Everything 
else was via package add. In my experience this model only works near the front 
of a major release. As the lower level ports diverge updates must be built. Here 
pkg_cleanup is a great tool for taking a step back. Perhaps building regularly 
on a weekly basis and updating everying would work. For me after I get a 
functional system I only add new stuff. I do not remember having to reinstalling 
something because it did not work.


Before someone pointed out pkg_cleanup I pretty completely broke my desktop 
(this in the 7.x days) just by upgrading firefox and then chasing the issues 
that came up.

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Re: CURRENT: buildworld fails

2012-05-19 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:55 AM, O. Hartmann
 wrote:
> Since approx. a week for now, I can not build FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64
> anymore! This happens to be on ALL(!) FreeBSD 10 boxes around here I
> maintain.

...

> b) build and install /usr/src/lib via "make clean cleandepend depend obj
> all install" doesn't work anymore, it fails with
> ."/usr/src/lib/Makefile", line 179: Malformed conditional (${MK_NAND} !=
> "no")
> "/usr/src/lib/Makefile", line 181: if-less endif

Your mk files in /usr/share/mk are out of synch with your build tree.
If you opt out of using buildworld, then you need to do 'make -C
share/mk install' beforehand.

Thanks,
-Garrett
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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/05/2012 21:09, Polytropon wrote:
>> Sorry i cant paste logs, bsd is running on another machine.

> You can use SSH to log into the BSD machine and cut text from
> the session. :-)

Or just run:

   % script /tmp/session.log

Do all your updating tasks, then type 'exit' when done, and you'll get a
transcript of everything displayed on your terminal in session.log

Cheers,

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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Beastie-Boy wrote:
> Ok, many thanks for your replies.
> I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE.
> That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk.

When you do such an update (major version number), you should
always reinstall (update) your applications. You can avoid it
by installing the compat-Nx-i386 or compat-Nx-amd64 ports (where
N is the previously used major version number).

You've found many advices on how to do that already from the
list.



> The problem i had was that gdm, gnome didnt start after the upgrade.

That was to be expected.



> So i tried to build the gnome and gdm thing again via pkg_add(didnt work)
> and make install clean in ports(either).

You should make sure _all_ dependencies get recompiled. Using
a port management tool for this task often is more comfortable
than dealing with the "bare ports" (but it basically is not
wrong).



> Right now i deleted all ports in /usr, deleted packages in /var and
> portsnaped me the all stuff again.

Depending on how you deleted, it _might_ be required to reconstruct
the directory subtree /usr/local from the respective mtree file
in /etc/mtree. If you _really_ intend to delete everything, make
sure you have backups of config files, data files or your own
modifications to something located in the local/ subtree (for
example /usr/local/etc).



> After that i pkg_add -r gnome2 again and now it looks better.

Erm... when you're installing binary packages, you don't have to
deal with ports at all.



> Before i had problems that package-1.2.3 is needed to build an only
> package-1.2.2 is installed.

Correct, this happens when packages have lower version numbers
(not totally up to date) than the respective port would have.
That's why it's often a "good idea" to use _either_ ports _or_
packages (even though technically there is no problem mixing
them).

Again, allow me to mention port management tools. Using for
example portmaster, many tasks are easier to perform than
dealing with "bare ports". Even the use of precompiled
packages (if desired) is possible. See "man portmaster"
and its EXAMPLES section for inspiration.



> Sorry i cant paste logs, bsd is running on another machine.

You can use SSH to log into the BSD machine and cut text from
the session. :-)




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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/05/2012 20:08, Beastie-Boy wrote:
> I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE.
> That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk.

Ahah! That is exactly the situation where you do want to remove all your
installed ports and rebuild them.

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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:43:09 +0100, RW wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT)
> Beastie-Boy wrote:
> 
> > Ok, many thanks for your replies.
> > I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE.
> > That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk.
> 
> 
> When you cross a major OS release boundary, you need to force a rebuild
> of all installed package, or reinstall from package files.

It's often easy to do this using a port management tool.
See "man portmaster" containing an example of exactly
this procedure (EXAMPLES section).


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Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:59:03 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
> 1.  Since the driver notes that Acceleration was disabled, but there are 
> no other errors, shouldn't the driver work in dumb frame buffer mode? 
> (Hoping to get something hobbling along...)  Or is this the result of 
> the need for KMS and I'm SOL?

Do you have drm/dri (direct renering) installed, port and
kernel module? I've been using that with a ATI Radeon 9200
(I think, RV250, no HD) with excellent 2D and 3D results
both with XFree86 and X.org - tested with excessive gaming. :-)



> 2.  Since the server didn't exit, is it actually pretending to run? 

Check using ps or top.



> Shouldn't I be seeing the standard X grey hatched background? 

No. The default new background is plain black. Nothing to see.
No grey pattern, no twm, nothing. And in case HAL and DBUS _or_
xorg.conf settings don't really match, you don't even see the
X-shaped mouse cursor.



> 3.  The Xorg man page notes that  should cause it to 
> exit.  However, it doesn't, and I had to use kill -TERM.  Any hints on 
> why  doesn't cause it to exit?

This is also a new default to _not_ work anymore. You have more
than two (if I remember correctly) options in making it work.
You'll find them in the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

One possibility when X has been compiled _without_ HAL support
(and no hald running), placing 

Option "DontZap" "false"

into the "ServerLayout" section should work. Additionally, I see
that I have

Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"

in the "InputDevice" section of "Keyboard0". It "just" works. :-)





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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread RW
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT)
Beastie-Boy wrote:

> Ok, many thanks for your replies.
> I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE.
> That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk.


When you cross a major OS release boundary, you need to force a rebuild
of all installed package, or reinstall from package files.
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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Beastie-Boy
Ok, many thanks for your replies.
I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE.
That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk.
The problem i had was that gdm, gnome didnt start after the upgrade.
So i tried to build the gnome and gdm thing again via pkg_add(didnt work)
and make install clean in ports(either).
Right now i deleted all ports in /usr, deleted packages in /var and
portsnaped me the all stuff again.
After that i pkg_add -r gnome2 again and now it looks better.
Before i had problems that package-1.2.3 is needed to build an only
package-1.2.2 is installed.
Sorry i cant paste logs, bsd is running on another machine.

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Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Gary Aitken

Ok...  I tried the xf86-video-radeonhd driver, to no avail.
Then tried xf86-video-ati-6.14.3 with marginally better results.

Using the ati driver, which reports that it works for the HD5500, Xorg 
hobbles and writes a config file.
When it attempts to start, the log shows a boatload of information 
stuff, a few warnings, and finally


(EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed
(II) Acceleration disabled

After which I'm left with the tail of the log file on the display,
but no prompt, and X is still running.

That is the only EE posted.

Questions:

1.  Since the driver notes that Acceleration was disabled, but there are 
no other errors, shouldn't the driver work in dumb frame buffer mode? 
(Hoping to get something hobbling along...)  Or is this the result of 
the need for KMS and I'm SOL?


2.  Since the server didn't exit, is it actually pretending to run? 
Shouldn't I be seeing the standard X grey hatched background?  Or is the 
server running, but the driver isn't passing bits on appropriately?


3.  The Xorg man page notes that  should cause it to 
exit.  However, it doesn't, and I had to use kill -TERM.  Any hints on 
why  doesn't cause it to exit?



On 5/19/2012 8:00 AM, Warren Block wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012, Gary Aitken wrote:


Trying to set up a new box 9.0-RELEASE w/ X; has ATI Radeon HD5500 card.

X.org -config says:
Missing output drivers. Configuration failed.

From X.org I see one is supposed to get linux drivers from ati/amd,
but this info is over 2 years old and
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
only allows choices of drivers for windoze.

Can anyone point me to a useable driver, or if these cards are
essentially unusable, make a suggestion for a reliable card suitable
for non-gaming (2-D) X work?


The radeon driver wants KMS for cards later than the 4000 series. A few
of the 5000 series may somewhat work with the existing UMS driver, but
most do not.

KMS for Intel video is being worked on and already being used, but AFAIK
work has not even begun for the Radeons.


Should one use an Nvidia card with the Linux 295.53 driver?


A Radeon 4650 works fine with the current radeon driver. The Nvidia
cards are faster with the FreeBSD version of their proprietary driver,
...but it's a proprietary driver.
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Re: buildworld problem

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M

On 05/19/2012 09:18 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:

As it says, you need CPUTYPE?=nocona instead of CPUTYPE=nocona in
/etc/make.conf or /etc/src.conf; otherwise the build process chokes
while building the 32-bit compatibility stuff, since it cannot override
your 64-bit CPU selection with a 32-bit one.



Just learned something new:-)

had a look in share/examples/etc/make.conf  file and i noticed this

# (?= allows to buildworld for a different CPUTYPE.)
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Re: buildworld problem

2012-05-19 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 05/19/2012 03:29 AM, Andriy Babiy wrote:
>>> "Makefile.inc1", line 160: CPUTYPE global should be set with ?=.
...
> In make.conf I have CPUTYPE=nocona

As it says, you need CPUTYPE?=nocona instead of CPUTYPE=nocona in
/etc/make.conf or /etc/src.conf; otherwise the build process chokes
while building the 32-bit compatibility stuff, since it cannot override
your 64-bit CPU selection with a 32-bit one.

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Re: buildworld problem

2012-05-19 Thread tomdean

On 5/19/2012 3:11 AM, Edward M wrote:

Try 'env -i make buildworld' after cleaning obj.
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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/05/2012 16:07, Warren Block wrote:
> The -f is probably not needed.  I've done this rarely enough to not
> recall, but -a should sort everything in the right order so dependencies
> are uninstalled in order.

I find that 'pkg_delete -af' gives more reliable results.  Agreed, it
should not be necessary but sometimes the dependency relationships
between ports aren't generated quite right, and '-f' just lets
pkg_delete do its thing without worrying about that -- not that
dependency ordering matters at all when you're deleting everything in
any case.

Cheers,

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Re: CURRENT: buildworld fails

2012-05-19 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Sat, 19 May 2012 15:55:08 +0200
"O. Hartmann"  wrote:

> Since approx. a week for now, I can not build FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64
> anymore! This happens to be on ALL(!) FreeBSD 10 boxes around here I
> maintain.
> Build is usually performed with CLANG, but also legacy gcc 4.2.1 build
> do fail.
> 
> The error is always the same, as documented below.
> 
> I allow to build with "WITH_BSD_SORT" in /etc/src.conf.
> 
> CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS are set to -pipe -O3 -fno-strict-aliasing
> -march=native when compiling with CLANG, otherwise the standard is used
> as introduced by the vanilla sources.
> 
> What I tried so far:
> 
> a) build and install kernel -> works
> b) build and install /usr/src/lib via "make clean cleandepend depend obj
> all install" doesn't work anymore, it fails with
> ."/usr/src/lib/Makefile", line 179: Malformed conditional (${MK_NAND} !=
> "no")
> "/usr/src/lib/Makefile", line 181: if-less endif
> 
> c) make installincludes from /usr/src works. But it doesn't relief as I
> hoped.
> 
> As the error below may suggest, there seems to be an issue with the
> libstc++ lib.
> Building ports also fails due to errors refering to libstdc++.so.
> 
> I feel helpless at the moment since the problem seems only to be sticky
> with me around here. Do others around here also allow the build of new
> C++ stuff with
> WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS=  YES
> in /etc/src.conf?
> 
[snip error output]

I just successfully did ``make buildworld'' and ``make buildkernel'' on
HEAD updated about 4 hours ago.  This is a 6-core AMD64 system.

I have WITH_BSD_SORT defined but I DO NOT have WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS defined
in /etc/src.conf.  I'm also using the stock gcc in base and not clang.

HTH.

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Re: Optiplex 755 RAID 1 logical drive configuration ignored by FreeBSD 9.0-R installation

2012-05-19 Thread User Wojtek


I used 'hardware RAID' because that is -precisely- how the OP described
their equipment.
unfortunately this is true - it is DESCRIBED as such. lie is standard tool 
in todays IT marketing.


What are facts:

- very few controllers actually have some RAID support. those usually have 
onboard RAM in substantial amount and preferably - battery backed.

- unless you need RAID-5,6 or similar hardware cannot speed it up much.
- gmirror/gstripe in FreeBSD is vastly superior to any RAID including true 
hardware ones - if configured properly. unless you treat single-process 
sequential read as measure of performance.


even graid5 (from ports) is close to, or even outperform true hardware 
RAID, but CPU load is substantial.


- RAID hardware does not allow any flexibility, like partitioning disks 
and using different RAID styles for parts. very useful.


- with FreeBSD software RAID you will be able to access your data in every 
computer with SATA port.


That's simple.


 And Dell does offer at least one such controller.


Yes true. Actually all recently bought servers i have to manage are Dells 
(yes their 24-hour warranty replacement on place actually work!).


And i always make sure no "hardware" RAID is present :), to get best 
performance.


Actually i told Dell marketer i will be recommending hardware RAID 
solution for Dell when he prove it will actually outperform my 
software RAID10 setup with same amount of same disks. Still not proved ;)


Of course you have to properly configure both "hardware" and software 
RAID.







The cases where true hardware RAID may help is it's battery backup 
write-buffer that consume forced syncs (database commits etc) when they 
are common. still if it is an issue it means than database software is 
really badly designed if it have to sync constantly. But if there is no 
choice, today there are simple solutions like small-size SLC flash drive 
or battery backed ramdisk in extreme cases.



Further, I, personally, have a fairly similar Compaq machine, which has
hardware RAID, with it's own BIOS (including configuration/setup screens).


what is the chip that you say it is hardware RAID? 
I dare to not believe you, but possibly you are right.

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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 19 May 2012, Matthew Seaman wrote:


That's a bit drastic and pretty much something you'ld never actually
want to do in normal usage.  However, for completeness' sake:

  # pkg_delete -af

will remove all installed ports.  After doing that there should be
hardly anything left under /usr/local -- most of what's left would be
config files in /usr/local/etc.


The -f is probably not needed.  I've done this rarely enough to not 
recall, but -a should sort everything in the right order so dependencies 
are uninstalled in order.



The advice to use portmaster is good.

A typical session to maintain all your ports goes something like this:

  # portsnap fetch update (Gets the latest contents for
   /usr/ports)
  # less /usr/ports/UPDATING  (Check for any special
   instructions affecting any
   ports you have installed.
   Assuming nothing out of the
   ordinary is required (and it
   usually isn't), then...)
  # pkg_version -vIL= (see what needs updating)
  # portmaster -a (update everything out of date)


portmaster can show ports that can be updated:

  portmaster -L --index-only

Or, more concisely:

  portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install'

There's a short overview of port upgrading procedures and reasoning 
at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html .

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Re: ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 18 May 2012, Gary Aitken wrote:


Trying to set up a new box 9.0-RELEASE w/ X; has ATI Radeon HD5500 card.

X.org -config says:
 Missing output drivers.  Configuration failed.

From X.org I see one is supposed to get linux drivers from ati/amd,
but this info is over 2 years old and
 http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
only allows choices of drivers for windoze.

Can anyone point me to a useable driver, or if these cards are essentially 
unusable, make a suggestion for a reliable card suitable for non-gaming (2-D) 
X work?


The radeon driver wants KMS for cards later than the 4000 series.  A few 
of the 5000 series may somewhat work with the existing UMS driver, but 
most do not.


KMS for Intel video is being worked on and already being used, but AFAIK 
work has not even begun for the Radeons.



Should one use an Nvidia card with the Linux 295.53 driver?


A Radeon 4650 works fine with the current radeon driver.  The Nvidia 
cards are faster with the FreeBSD version of their proprietary driver,

...but it's a proprietary driver.
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Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/05/2012 15:27, Beastie-Boy wrote:
> i ran into problems keeping my ports-collection up to date.
> Although i did a portsnap fet and install i think there are obsolete an old
> ports still on the disk.

portsnap will synchronise your ports tree with what is in the FreeBSD
CVS repo.  The way it works, you shouldn't get any old ports left
cluttering up /usr/ports unless things have gone very wrong.  In which
case portsnap would be emitting all sorts of error messages and the fact
that there was a problem would be obvious.

> I tried to compile a programm and it complained about an older version of a
> depending package.

OK.  This is a conceptual thing.  The ports tree (ie. /usr/ports) is a
set of *instructions* for how to build and install ports.  portsnap will
update all those instructions in the ports tree, but to update the
actual ports you have installed requires use of a different software
package.

> I deleted the whole ports-dir, did the fetch and extract again, problem
> persists still.

Yep.  I hope you can see from what I wrote above how doing that wouldn't
solve the problem you are seeing.

> Yes, i searched all the forums and read a lot about managing ports and
> packages.
> Right now i am stuck.
> So, how do i delete really *all* ports and *all* packages at once?

That's a bit drastic and pretty much something you'ld never actually
want to do in normal usage.  However, for completeness' sake:

   # pkg_delete -af

will remove all installed ports.  After doing that there should be
hardly anything left under /usr/local -- most of what's left would be
config files in /usr/local/etc.

But don't do that.  It is a big waste of time and completely unnecessary.

> Is it possible with doing a fectch and extract having the latest ports?
> I was recommended to use only portmaster and not to use sysinstall after a
> finished installation.
> Well, i dont know.

The advice to use portmaster is good.

A typical session to maintain all your ports goes something like this:

   # portsnap fetch update (Gets the latest contents for
/usr/ports)
   # less /usr/ports/UPDATING  (Check for any special
instructions affecting any
ports you have installed.
Assuming nothing out of the
ordinary is required (and it
usually isn't), then...)
   # pkg_version -vIL= (see what needs updating)
   # portmaster -a (update everything out of date)

and that's it.  It's not particularly hard to do, although it can be
time consuming, and very occasionally something will glitch out.  If you
wait a day or so and then try again the glitch will probably have been
fixed.  You'll find updates are more likely to run smoothly if you do
them like this regularly -- monthly should be adequate -- plus immediate
updates of anything portaudit reports has security problems.)

Your original problem -- a port not installing because of an out of date
dependency -- can be easily cured by:

   # portmaster category/example

where category/example is the port's directory path under /usr/ports.
This will update all dependencies as required before installing
category/example.

If you are still experiencing problems, please save a transcript of your
updating session and put it on a pastebin site, and then ask again here
with a link to the transcript.

Cheers,

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CURRENT: buildworld fails

2012-05-19 Thread O. Hartmann
Since approx. a week for now, I can not build FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64
anymore! This happens to be on ALL(!) FreeBSD 10 boxes around here I
maintain.
Build is usually performed with CLANG, but also legacy gcc 4.2.1 build
do fail.

The error is always the same, as documented below.

I allow to build with "WITH_BSD_SORT" in /etc/src.conf.

CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS are set to -pipe -O3 -fno-strict-aliasing
-march=native when compiling with CLANG, otherwise the standard is used
as introduced by the vanilla sources.

What I tried so far:

a) build and install kernel -> works
b) build and install /usr/src/lib via "make clean cleandepend depend obj
all install" doesn't work anymore, it fails with
."/usr/src/lib/Makefile", line 179: Malformed conditional (${MK_NAND} !=
"no")
"/usr/src/lib/Makefile", line 181: if-less endif

c) make installincludes from /usr/src works. But it doesn't relief as I
hoped.

As the error below may suggest, there seems to be an issue with the
libstc++ lib.
Building ports also fails due to errors refering to libstdc++.so.

I feel helpless at the moment since the problem seems only to be sticky
with me around here. Do others around here also allow the build of new
C++ stuff with
WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS=  YES
in /etc/src.conf?

Regards,

Oliver
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clang++ -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -pipe -O3 -fno-strict-aliasing
-march=native -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers
-Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare
-Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function
-Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-parentheses
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/lib
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keyword-list.o keyword.o main.o options.o output.o positions.o search.o
version.o getline.o hash.o
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std::allocator >::_M_move(wchar_t*, wchar_t const*, unsigned long)'
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`_ZNKSs15_M_check_lengthEmmPKc@GLIBCXX_3.4' changed from 39 in
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libstdc++.so to 36 in
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libstdc++.so
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>::is_open() const'
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std::allocator >::_M_assign(wchar_t*, unsigned long, wchar_t)'
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`_ZNKSbIwSt11char_traitsIwESaIwEE15_M_check_lengthEmmPKc@GLIBCXX_3.4'
changed from 39 in /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libstdc++.so to 36 in
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libstdc++.so
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: Warning: size of symbol
`_ZNSi6ignoreEv@GLIBCXX_3.4' changed from 243 in
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libstdc++.so to 211 in
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libstdc++.so
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libstdc++.so:(*IND*+0x0): multiple
definition of `std::basic_ifstream
>::is_open() const'
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definition of `std::string::_M_copy(char*, c

stay up to date with ports and packages, problem

2012-05-19 Thread Beastie-Boy
Hi folks,

i ran into problems keeping my ports-collection up to date.
Although i did a portsnap fet and install i think there are obsolete an old
ports still on the disk.
I tried to compile a programm and it complained about an older version of a
depending package.
I deleted the whole ports-dir, did the fetch and extract again, problem
persists still.
Yes, i searched all the forums and read a lot about managing ports and
packages.
Right now i am stuck.
So, how do i delete really *all* ports and *all* packages at once?
Is it possible with doing a fectch and extract having the latest ports?
I was recommended to use only portmaster and not to use sysinstall after a
finished installation.
Well, i dont know.

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Re: Optiplex 755 RAID 1 logical drive configuration ignored by FreeBSD 9.0-R installation

2012-05-19 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Sat May 19 06:51:00 2012
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:48:18 +0200 (CEST)
> From: User Wojtek 
> To: Robert Bonomi 
> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, te...@sunset.tx.net
> Subject: Re: Optiplex 755 RAID 1 logical drive configuration ignored by
>  FreeBSD 9.0-R installation
>
> > FreeBSD will use a hardware RAID device -only- if the particular type of
> > RAID chip/chipset/controller is known to the included device drivers.
>
> do not use "hardware RAID" for such things as this is nothing else
> than normal controller and BIOS/driver support.

'Male bovine excrement' applies.

I used 'hardware RAID' because that is -precisely- how the OP described
their equipment.  And Dell does offer at least one such controller.

That aside, my statement is entirely accurate, _as_written_, regardless of 
the hardwaare that the OP has.

Now, I'll grant it is possible that you know more about the OP's equipment
than I do, but _I_ will assume that the OP knows what they are talking
bout, with regard to -their- hardware configuration.

Further, I, personally, have a fairly similar Compaq machine, which has 
hardware RAID, with it's own BIOS (including configuration/setup screens).
Oh, yes, FreeBSD _does_ recognize the raid volumes -- with NO RAID support
whatsoever in the O/S itself.  I run full-custom kernels with no loadable
modules, I _know_ what capbilites are/aren't present.


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ATI Radeon HD5500 driver question

2012-05-19 Thread Robert Huff
Gary Aitken writes:

>  Trying to set up a new box 9.0-RELEASE w/ X; has ATI Radeon HD5500 card.
>  
>  X.org -config says:
> Missing output drivers.  Configuration failed.

I do not have this card/chip; I have a HD3300.
Having installed xf86-video-radeonhd-1.3.0.5, 'device "radeon"'
works for me.
Does this help?


Robert Huff





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Re: Optiplex 755 RAID 1 logical drive configuration ignored by FreeBSD 9.0-R installation

2012-05-19 Thread User Wojtek

FreeBSD will use a hardware RAID device -only- if the particular type of
RAID chip/chipset/controller is known to the included device drivers.


do not use "hardware RAID" for such things as this is nothing else
than normal controller and BIOS/driver support.
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Re: Optiplex 755 RAID 1 logical drive configuration ignored by FreeBSD 9.0-R installation

2012-05-19 Thread User Wojtek
the system setup menu, the boot menu shows that "freebsd90" is the first (and 
only) bootable hard drive.


Yet when I try to install FreeBSD 9.0-R, FreeBSD ignores the hardware RAID 
and sees the two separate drives, instead of seeing a single logical drive.


good lesson to NEVER use this pseudo-RAID interfaces and use gmirror 
instead.


not only you can make more complex RAID setup, get higher performance from 
gmirror and be always able to access data independently of "hardware" RAID 
onboard which is just normal controller.


Just don't use BIOS RAID ever.
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openoffice doesn't work - any ideas?

2012-05-19 Thread User Wojtek

[wojtek@wojtek ~/robod]$ openoffice-3.4.0
[Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument 
(elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
terminate called after throwing an instance of 
'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'



compiled fine, installed without problems jdk 1.6 too.

any ideas? thanks
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Re: buildworld problem

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M

On 05/18/2012 09:17 PM, Andriy Babiy wrote:

Makefile.inc1", line 160: CPUTYPE global should be set with ?=


I think the problem is  the wrong  cpu type define. . I took a 
glance  at the code in the makefile.inc1 to see what would set that 
error off and i found this in the makefile.inc1

if cpu type does not equal target_cputype then throw that error.

  .if ${_CPUTYPE} != ${_TARGET_CPUTYPE}
  .error CPUTYPE global should be set with ?=.
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Re: buildworld problem

2012-05-19 Thread Andriy Babiy
> > FreeBSD myhost 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Mar 23
> > 20:00:59 PDT 2012 root@myhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> > amd64
> >
> > root#cd /usr/obj
> > root#chflags -R noschg *
> > root#rm -rf *
> > root#make buildworld
> > ...
> > cd /usr/src; MACHINE=i386 MACHINE_ARCH=i386  MACHINE_CPU="i686 mmx
> > sse sse2"  LD="ld -m elf_i386_fbsd -Y
> > P,/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32" AS="as --32"
> > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/lib32
> 
>  I may be going over my head on this one:-)
>  However to my understanding it seems,  it is trying to build 32
> bit on a amd 64bit install?
> 

Since 7.0 I upgraded this machine via buildworld. It was always amd64.
As you see in uname output, I upgraded it from 8.X to 9.0 with no
problem. Time/date is in sync. I don't see any problems in the system I
am running, but I got latest code changes for SSL and wanted to do as
usual per instructions. On i386 machine everything worked fine, and I
don't suspect the code changes are causing it; there must be something
simple I miss.
In make.conf I have CPUTYPE=nocona and perl version, and obviously
clang related definitions.
In the error above I see -DCOMPAT_32 string which might be the case for
building 32 compatibility libraries for amd64, but it still doesn't
explain what fails and why.
Any ideas?
Thank you.
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Re: Release notifications

2012-05-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/05/2012 09:48, Crashed zero wrote:
> I'm working on automation of notifications about OS releases through
> talennsy notification service. As I can see you have an rss channel,
> but it's not only about releases. Do you have a channel where you
> announcing ONLY releases of new versions?

Unfortunately no.  The closest things are the security updates channel
at http://www.freebsd.org/security/rss.xml or the E-mail Announcements
list -- see http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce

However the security RSS feed doesn't carry announcements of new major
releases: only of security updates to the supported release branches.
The freebsd-announce mailing list covers more than just new releases,
but it is pretty low traffic and release announcements + securitty
updates make up a good fraction of the traffic.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Release notifications

2012-05-19 Thread Crashed zero
Hello.

I'm working on automation of notifications about OS releases through
talennsy notification service. As I can see you have an rss channel,
but it's not only about releases. Do you have a channel where you
announcing ONLY releases of new versions?

With best regards.

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