Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder?

2012-06-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/06/2012 08:40, Matthew Seaman wrote: Really? If I said the bandwidth usage was 10Mb/s would you immediately understand that was 10,000,000,000 bits per second? Err... of course you wouldn't. 10,000,000 bits per second. That's what I meant to type. Matthew -- Dr Matthew J

Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?

2012-06-14 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. Kurt I'm not sure I

Re: link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined

2012-06-14 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Subhro Sankha Kar sub...@80386.org wrote: Hello, Looks like you have missed out something related to ATA in the kernel configuration file. Can you post your complete kernel config? Hi, I'm just using the GENERIC config on amd64, as of r235604. Nothing

Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder?

2012-06-14 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:40:27 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 14/06/2012 07:11, Polytropon wrote: Even school taught that in the 80's: When dealing with computers, 1 kB != 1000 B, but 1 kB = 1024 B. That is considered basic knowledge. Schools teach a lot of things that are so glossed over

Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95

2012-06-14 Thread Paul Macdonald
On 13/06/2012 19:34, Simon wrote: Hi, I upgrade to FreeBSD 8.3-p3 and installed MySQL 5.0.95 from ports. It runs fine until it dies silently. Does anyone run a heavy loaded MySQL under such setup? how can I troubleshoot this? I could never compile a stable MySQL server from the ports and

Re: Possible to run freebsd mips under QEMU???

2012-06-14 Thread Nomen Nescio
Hi is there any update on this? I would like to be able to run FreeBSD MIPS and I don't have a MIPS box! You wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: The short answer is yes - I've seen this. I've not done it myself though, I've just acquired cheap

freebsd-update procedure, question

2012-06-14 Thread Leslie Jensen
When one recives the FreeBSD Errata Notice or FreeBSD Security Advisory The instruction is to do: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install From earlier discussions on this list about the -px number not changing, I usually rebuild and install the kernel. My question is: Do I

freebsd-update install question

2012-06-14 Thread Leslie Jensen
When I do freebsd-update install I get this error: Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c: No such file or directory I think it's because I do not have all sources installed. So I just want to confirm that it's the case. Also, should I care and install the

Re: freebsd-update procedure, question

2012-06-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/06/2012 10:41, Leslie Jensen wrote: When one recives the FreeBSD Errata Notice or FreeBSD Security Advisory The instruction is to do: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install From earlier discussions on this list about the -px number not changing, I usually

Re: freebsd-update install question

2012-06-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/06/2012 10:45, Leslie Jensen wrote: When I do freebsd-update install I get this error: Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c: No such file or directory I think it's because I do not have all sources installed. So I just want to confirm that it's

Re: freebsd-update install question

2012-06-14 Thread Leslie Jensen
2012-06-14 12:18, Matthew Seaman skrev: On 14/06/2012 10:45, Leslie Jensen wrote: When I do freebsd-update install I get this error: Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c: No such file or directory I think it's because I do not have all sources installed. So

FreeBSD compatibility with HP ProLiant DL360p Generation 8 (Gen8) ?

2012-06-14 Thread Olivier Mueller
Hello, I need to order a few more servers for an internal project, and instead of the usual DL360G7 we now use without any problem with FreeBSD, there would now be the next generation, called Gen8. Intel® C600 Series Chipset Intel® E5-2600 Processor Family Storage Controller : HP Smart Array

Re: USB device activity when not mounted

2012-06-14 Thread Michael Powell
Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:26:16 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: I can understand why I would see activity on a USB device when it's first plugged in. But why do I see continued activity (i.e. the light blinks on a usb disk or memory stick)? When I umount one of these, they keep

Re: FreeBSD compatibility with HP ProLiant DL360p Generation 8 (Gen8) ?

2012-06-14 Thread Rick Miller
Reply inline... On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Olivier Mueller om-lists-...@omx.ch wrote: Hello, I need to order a few more servers for an internal project, and instead of the usual DL360G7 we now use without any problem with FreeBSD, there would now be the next generation, called Gen8.

RE: freebsd-update install question

2012-06-14 Thread Dale Scott
Should I install the libc souces? I had this error when upgrading 8.x (8.1 to 8.2?), and solved it by creating the directory only (actual sources not required). I recall someone had posted this solution to the list at the time. Regards, Dale ___

Re: USB device activity when not mounted

2012-06-14 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 14 June 2012 07:05:11 Polytropon wrote: I don't think that's a problem. I've got a USB stick here that has a blinkenlight as soon as it's powered on (plugged in), even if there is no reading / writing / mounting activity. After you've successfully performed umount, the USB stick

Re: slowoffice doesn't work

2012-06-14 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 06/13/2012 11:49 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: trying to start openoffice shows: [wojtek@wojtek ~]$ openoffice-3.4.0-swriter XDM authorization key matches an existing client!/usr/local/openoffice-3.4.0/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin X11 error: Can't open display: Set DISPLAY

Re: USB device activity when not mounted

2012-06-14 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Mike Clarke wrote: On Thursday 14 June 2012 07:05:11 Polytropon wrote: I don't think that's a problem. I've got a USB stick here that has a blinkenlight as soon as it's powered on (plugged in), even if there is no reading / writing / mounting activity. After you've

Re: FreeBSD 8.3 + MySQL 5.0.95

2012-06-14 Thread Simon
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:04:26 +0100, Paul Macdonald wrote: On 13/06/2012 19:34, Simon wrote: Hi, I upgrade to FreeBSD 8.3-p3 and installed MySQL 5.0.95 from ports. It runs fine until it dies silently. Does anyone run a heavy loaded MySQL under such setup? how can I troubleshoot this? I

Re: USB device activity when not mounted

2012-06-14 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:49:00 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Feenberg wrote: Is it possible that there is volitile memory buffering in the stick that may not have been written to flash when umount thinks it is complete, and the flashing light is an indication that power is still required to complete

Re: Lost /var/db/pkg

2012-06-14 Thread William Orr
Thanks, it looks like I had a copy from May in there that was fairly accurate! On Jun 13, 2012 5:03 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Eitan Adler wrote: On 12 June 2012 18:03, William Orr w...@worrbase.com wrote: Hello, I had a hard disk failure some time

Re: USB device activity when not mounted

2012-06-14 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 14 June 2012 15:45:46 Polytropon wrote: However, as you said it might be possible that _inside_ the USB stick there is still an action that needs to be performed and therefore requires power. That's a possibility. But I doubt this takes several seconds to complete... I've

Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?

2012-06-14 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:51:46 +0200 Message-id: CADGWnjW2LnrtOiXFzWFk9btMaeJhmOTxdZ7ScymY=qgme_c...@mail.gmail.com C. P. Ghost wrote: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: UEFI

No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card

2012-06-14 Thread David Demelier
Hello, I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1 Adding -channels 6 to the mplayer args

Re: hwpstate0 set frequency err 6

2012-06-14 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 419, Issue 9, Message: 2 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:33:49 -0400 Lynn Steven Killingsworth blue.seahorse.syndic...@gmail.com wrote: This is the fourth time I have installed FreeBSD while learning the in's and out's. I have a new mainboard this time (ASUS M5A97 EVO

Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-14 Thread Dieter BSD
grarpamp writes: Plenty of millionaires out there now who are in tune with opensource who could startup, buy the same ARM/ATOM/etc chips, the same support chips, load Android and sell it to the masses. Would you please post a list of these millionaire FLOSS entrepreneurs? Thank you.

Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?

2012-06-14 Thread Dave U . Random
If you read Fedora's page they were planning to tighten their boot sequence to then only boot their approved binary kernels. Save your old copies of lilo and grub. You're gonna need them if you want to stay on Intel Mafioso hardware. Risk of key revocation later If hardware

Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder?

2012-06-14 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hello. 2012/06/14 00:23:25 +0400 Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org: PV ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both ~150M PV actulally, with a system command? also, 'du' works that way for regular files. But implicitly I

Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card

2012-06-14 Thread Chris Hill
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, David Demelier wrote: I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1

Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder?

2012-06-14 Thread David Brodbeck
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org wrote: Hello. 2012/06/14 00:23:25 +0400 Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org: PV ot the least how could I see the 'real' size of each of those files, both  ~150M PV actulally, with

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Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity

2012-06-14 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:17 AM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: I did say effectively. If people would actually read that chapter in the spec (minimally 27.5) they would find that they can: - Load a new PK without asking if in default SetupMode - If not in SetupMode, chainload a new PK

Uptime [OT]

2012-06-14 Thread Steve Bertrand
I still have non-root access to a box from my old job... it is non-available and doing nothing, so updates are irrelevant: %uptime 9:01PM up 1142 days, 5:29, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Uptime [OT]

2012-06-14 Thread Mark Felder
In production and survived many area-wide power outages: % uptime 10:34PM up 2021 days, 18:02, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: Uptime [OT]

2012-06-14 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 14/06/2012 9:20 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: I still have non-root access to a box from my old job... it is non-available and doing nothing, so updates are irrelevant: %uptime 9:01PM up 1142 days, 5:29, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 fwiw: %uname -a FreeBSD ..xxx

Re: Uptime [OT]

2012-06-14 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 14/06/2012 9:35 PM, Mark Felder wrote: In production and survived many area-wide power outages: % uptime 10:34PM up 2021 days, 18:02, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 That's hardcore homie... wow! What does this box survive to do? Steve

Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card

2012-06-14 Thread Edward M
On 06/14/2012 09:03 AM, David Demelier wrote: I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1

Re: Uptime [OT]

2012-06-14 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:37:59 -0500, Steve Bertrand steve.bertr...@gmail.com wrote: That's hardcore homie... wow! What does this box survive to do? Transparent traffic shaping/firewalling via IPFW; it's not actually visible to the internet. There isn't much load at all, but the hardware

Re: Uptime [OT]

2012-06-14 Thread Mark Felder
FreeBSD REDACTED 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 15 16:29:10 CST 2006 root@REDACTED:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/IPFW-POLING-ALTQ i386 Theres no way I'm giving out the organization name or hostname haha. We're slowly moving customers away from this device, but not forcing anyone.

Re: Uptime [OT]

2012-06-14 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 14/06/2012 9:43 PM, Mark Felder wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:37:59 -0500, Steve Bertrand steve.bertr...@gmail.com wrote: That's hardcore homie... wow! What does this box survive to do? Transparent traffic shaping/firewalling via IPFW; it's not actually visible to the internet. There

Re: `ls -l` shows size of file other than of the folder?

2012-06-14 Thread grarpamp
The following creates a file with a size of 102402 (a gig) fseek(stdout, 100*1024, SEEK_END); Nope :) What you have there is not actually called (anything). It would maybe be called a MKiB. :-) I'll buy that, if someone chips in the deuce :) In SI units it is called a gigabyte.