backspace doesn't work correctly with termios

2013-02-11 Thread saeedeh motlagh
hi all

i have problem with backspace in serial communication.
this is my scenario:
i have three box. box number 1 is windows system, number 2 is freeBSD8.2
and number 3 is cisco router. from box number 1 i connect to the box number
2 by putty and run a serial program on box number 2 that connects to box
number 3 via a serial card. this serial program uses termios structure and
manage opening, reading, writing and closing serial ports.

my problem is: when i connect to box number 2 via putty, everything is
okand backspace works correctly but when i run serial program and
connect to
the box number 3 via it, backspace do not work correctly and print ^? on
screen.

i searched a lot and check stty erase and erase2 options. moreover i set VERASE
in termios too but nothing happened.
what is the correct setting for termios to identify backspace as it should
be?
how can i understand what key mappings is done when i press backspace
in box number 1 to erase character in the terminal of box number 3?

i think some thing is wrong in termios options that causes mismatch in
backspace translation.

this problem has kept me busy for more than a month and i really don't know
what should i do to solve it.
any comments or hints are really appreciated.

motlagh
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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From: paranormal paranor...@isgroup.com.ua
Subject: Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:23:40 +0200

I have t61p with mentioned card.
x11/nvidia-driver works well for me (at least quake, doom, compiz work).

Thanks for all the replies.

I bought a T61p for 220 GBP - what bliss!

BIOS update - no problem
HEAD r246552 - no problem
wireless with iwn0: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 - no problem
sound with hdac0: Intel 82801H HDA Controller - no problem
CD-RW with cd0: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U10N 1.05 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
  and sysutils/cdrtools-devel - no problem
X with nvidia0: Quadro FX 570M and x11/nvidia-driver - no problem
flash as per 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
  (7.2.1.2 Firefox and Adobe Flash Plugin) - no problem

In fact, no problems at all!

I can't recommend it enough.

Anton

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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-11 Thread Ian Smith
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:41:31 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   From: paranormal paranor...@isgroup.com.ua
   Subject: Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:23:40 +0200
  
   I have t61p with mentioned card.
   x11/nvidia-driver works well for me (at least quake, doom, compiz work).
  
  Thanks for all the replies.
  
  I bought a T61p for 220 GBP - what bliss!
  
  BIOS update - no problem
  HEAD r246552 - no problem
  wireless with iwn0: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 - no problem
  sound with hdac0: Intel 82801H HDA Controller - no problem
  CD-RW with cd0: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U10N 1.05 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 
  device
and sysutils/cdrtools-devel - no problem
  X with nvidia0: Quadro FX 570M and x11/nvidia-driver - no problem
  flash as per 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
(7.2.1.2 Firefox and Adobe Flash Plugin) - no problem
  
  In fact, no problems at all!
  
  I can't recommend it enough.
  
  Anton

Suspend and resume?

cheers, Ian
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pkg_add -r broken for 9.1

2013-02-11 Thread elhosots

Because of a missing link at freebsd.org, pkg_add -r pkgname
does not work

I hand modify the source code and put 9-stable above 9.1-RELEASE to get around 
the problem in main.c


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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:30:59 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:41:31 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  From: paranormal paranor...@isgroup.com.ua
  Subject: Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:23:40 +0200
   
  I have t61p with mentioned card.
  x11/nvidia-driver works well for me (at least quake, doom, compiz work).
   
   Thanks for all the replies.
   
   I bought a T61p for 220 GBP - what bliss!
   
   BIOS update - no problem
   HEAD r246552 - no problem
   wireless with iwn0: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 - no problem
   sound with hdac0: Intel 82801H HDA Controller - no problem
   CD-RW with cd0: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U10N 1.05 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 
 device
 and sysutils/cdrtools-devel - no problem
   X with nvidia0: Quadro FX 570M and x11/nvidia-driver - no problem
   flash as per 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
 (7.2.1.2 Firefox and Adobe Flash Plugin) - no problem
   
   In fact, no problems at all!
   
   I can't recommend it enough.
   
   Anton
 
 Suspend and resume?

I'd be interested in that, too (to possibly transform this knowledge
to the T60p I have).

And docking station support (if you have it)?




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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From smi...@nimnet.asn.au Mon Feb 11 13:49:38 2013

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:41:31 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   From: paranormal paranor...@isgroup.com.ua
   Subject: Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:23:40 +0200
  
   I have t61p with mentioned card.
   x11/nvidia-driver works well for me (at least quake, doom, 
compiz work).
  
  Thanks for all the replies.
  
  I bought a T61p for 220 GBP - what bliss!
  
  BIOS update - no problem
  HEAD r246552 - no problem
  wireless with iwn0: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 - no problem
  sound with hdac0: Intel 82801H HDA Controller - no problem
  CD-RW with cd0: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U10N 1.05 Removable CD-ROM 
SCSI-0 device
and sysutils/cdrtools-devel - no problem
  X with nvidia0: Quadro FX 570M and x11/nvidia-driver - no problem
  flash as per 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
(7.2.1.2 Firefox and Adobe Flash Plugin) - no problem
  
  In fact, no problems at all!
  
  I can't recommend it enough.
  
  Anton

Suspend and resume?

I guess no... However, I'm very ignorant of suspend/resume,
so not sure I'm doing the right thing.

- the T61p manual details standby and hibernation modes.
Is this what you refer to by suspend?
I can go into standby with Fn+F4, or with acpiconf -s 3
but can't seem to get back. The disk starts, but the
screen is corrupted, kind of black with very few white dots.
I have to power off/on. 

The Fn+F12, hibernation mode code, does not seem to
do anything.

- I've had a quick look at acpi(4) and apm(8).
I have:

hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S3 S4 S5
hw.acpi.s4bios: 0

-  Anything I should check/test in BIOS?
I see that power management is enabled in BIOS.
Is that enough?

Anton
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Re: pkg_add -r broken for 9.1

2013-02-11 Thread Fbsd8

elhosots wrote:

Because of a missing link at freebsd.org, pkg_add -r pkgname
does not work

I hand modify the source code and put 9-stable above 9.1-RELEASE to 

get around the problem in main.c





Works fine for me.

You did not scan the questions archives. This problem has been covered 
many times and it has nothing to do with modifying main.c source.

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Re: backspace shows ^? in serial communications

2013-02-11 Thread s m
thanks Robert,
i try it before but nothing happened.
do you know how i can set erase and erase2 for stty via termios structure?
and what should be their value to backspace correct well?

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.comwrote:

  From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Wed Feb  6 00:19:04 2013
  Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:44:37 +0330
  Subject: backspace shows ^? in serial communications
  From: s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com
  To: freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
  hi all
 
  i have a problem with backspace in serial communications. i have a
  freebsd8.2 box with a serial card on it. when i connect to other freebsd
  box via serial port backspace does not act as i expected. backspace shows
  ^? on screen. i searched alot and find out that stty has two parameters
  -erase and erase2- to identify erase characters in terminal and they
 should
  be set correctly. i set erase and erase2 to ^? by stty erase \^? and
  stty erase2 \^? commands but nothing happened.
  please let me know how i can fix it. i know it is simple issue but i
 really
  do not know how to do that.

   stty erase {press the backspace key}

 Then hit the enter/return key

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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-11 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:28:30 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 I guess no... However, I'm very ignorant of suspend/resume,
 so not sure I'm doing the right thing.

For those who use the laptop in transportable mode (i. e.
not on the desktop as a desktop-PC substitute), those
features might be interesting in order to save power.



 - the T61p manual details standby and hibernation modes.
 Is this what you refer to by suspend?

Both are _different_ kinds, if I remember correctly.

Standby stores machine states in RAM and buffers it with
the battery power. This mode still requires power. This
is ACPI states S2 and S3.

Hibernate stores machine data somewhere on hard disk or
SSD. This mode does not require power. This is ACPI state
S4.



 I can go into standby with Fn+F4, or with acpiconf -s 3
 but can't seem to get back. The disk starts, but the
 screen is corrupted, kind of black with very few white dots.

That seems to indicate that the GPU memory data is lost.
A typical problem with those sleep states.



 - I've had a quick look at acpi(4) and apm(8).

APM is not in use anymore. ACPI has taken that functionality
at the point in time when APM has been brought to a fully
functional state.



 I have:
 
 hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S3 S4 S5
 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0

From 
http://static.usenix.org/event/usenix02/tech/freenix/full_papers/watanabe/watanabe_html/node6.html
 you can see:

S3: sleep states. In these states, memory contexts are held
but CPU contexts are lost. The differences between S2 and
S3 are in CPU re-initialization done by firmware and device
re-initialization.

S4: a sleep state in which contexts are saved to disk. The
context will be restored upon the return to S0. This is
identical to soft-off for hardware. This state can be
implemented by either OS or firmware.

S5: the soft-off state. All activity will stop and all contexts
are lost.



 -  Anything I should check/test in BIOS?

The obvious things, but I assume the presets are already
fine for a laptop.



 I see that power management is enabled in BIOS.
 Is that enough?

It should be. Note that PM can also include things like
spinning down disks or reducing CPU power.




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dump issue

2013-02-11 Thread Robert Huff

Will someone please confirm or deny that (UFS) journaling and
dump -L continue to be incompatible?

Respectfully,


Robert Huff

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split-logfile

2013-02-11 Thread Mike.
I've made the switch from apache to nginx for all the web servers I
run.  One thing that was missing from the nginx installs was the perl
script that is used in apache-land to split a single server access file
into separate files for each virtual host - split-logfile.  While I
could have continued to use the perl script, I decided to write similar
functionality in c.  The c language version uses less resources to
accomplish the same task more quickly.

A c language program with functionality similar to the split-logfile
perl script, available here: 
http://archive.mgm51.com/sources/split-logfile.html 

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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-11 Thread Ian Smith
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:28:30 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   From smi...@nimnet.asn.au Mon Feb 11 13:49:38 2013
  
   On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:41:31 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  From: paranormal paranor...@isgroup.com.ua
  Subject: Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:23:40 +0200
 
  I have t61p with mentioned card.
  x11/nvidia-driver works well for me (at least quake, doom, 
  compiz work).
 
 Thanks for all the replies.
 
 I bought a T61p for 220 GBP - what bliss!
 
 BIOS update - no problem
 HEAD r246552 - no problem
 wireless with iwn0: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 - no problem
 sound with hdac0: Intel 82801H HDA Controller - no problem
 CD-RW with cd0: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U10N 1.05 Removable CD-ROM 
  SCSI-0 device
   and sysutils/cdrtools-devel - no problem
 X with nvidia0: Quadro FX 570M and x11/nvidia-driver - no problem
 flash as per 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
   (7.2.1.2 Firefox and Adobe Flash Plugin) - no problem
 
 In fact, no problems at all!
 
 I can't recommend it enough.
 
 Anton
  
   Suspend and resume?
  
  I guess no... However, I'm very ignorant of suspend/resume,
  so not sure I'm doing the right thing.
  
  - the T61p manual details standby and hibernation modes.
  Is this what you refer to by suspend?
  I can go into standby with Fn+F4, or with acpiconf -s 3

Ok, state S3 is what we call suspend, more precisely suspend to RAM 
(STR); windows and so most BIOSes call that state standby.

  but can't seem to get back. The disk starts, but the
  screen is corrupted, kind of black with very few white dots.
  I have to power off/on. 

A common enough tale these days.  I try to remain hopeful someone will 
get a more modern Thinkpad than the T43s (reportedly) or my older T23s 
(certainly) resuming in one unbroken piece every time again, one day ..

  The Fn+F12, hibernation mode code, does not seem to
  do anything.
  
  - I've had a quick look at acpi(4) and apm(8).
  I have:
  
  hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S3 S4 S5
  hw.acpi.s4bios: 0

S3 is suspend to RAM; S4 suspend to disk (STD, unsupported by FreeBSD);
S5 is power off, should work but may bypass some shutdown(8) processing.

S4, STD - 'hibernation' - has two varieties; with s4bios the BIOS itself 
writes machine state and all RAM to disk, usually a preallocated file in 
an msdosfs slice.  I haven't heard of any new boxes supporting this in 
BIOS for years; windows (since ~'95) and Linux (I'm told) support STD.

  -  Anything I should check/test in BIOS?
  I see that power management is enabled in BIOS.
  Is that enough?

It should be, but doesn't seem to work on many.  When it resumes with 
messed up screen, can you ping it, or maybe ssh in, or is it dead?

If you boot it but don't start X, can it come back from suspend?

Frankly, unless you're _really_ keen to get STR working, this could turn 
into not just a rabbithole, but the whole warren - you'll have to really 
want to be the bunny!

Sounds like a very nice machine otherwise :)

cheers, Ian
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Re: dump issue

2013-02-11 Thread Michael Sierchio
Snapshots are not yet supported when running with journaled soft
updates: Operation not supported

:-(

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:

 Will someone please confirm or deny that (UFS) journaling and
 dump -L continue to be incompatible?

 Respectfully,


 Robert Huff

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Re: /rescue/init wrong permissions

2013-02-11 Thread David Demelier
On 11/02/2013 11:07, Joshua Isom wrote:
 On 2/10/2013 3:22 PM, David Demelier wrote:
 Hello

 I've just cross compiled FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE i386 for an embedded device.
 After some days and reboot, I just realized that the device does not boot
 anymore, so I've plugged a serial cable and saw a panic with error :

 exec /rescue/init: error 13

 I checked the permissions and noticed that permissions are only set to
 read
 on this file :

 -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  5576 10 Feb 2013 rescue/init

 On my laptop it's -r-xr-xr-x. I have installed it to my embedded device
 with standard targets such as make installworld and make distribution,
 which kind of steps set these permissions ?

 Cheers,

 
 Just a quick guess, the file system is mounted as noexec.
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Okay it seems I've totally mangled the files, my /rescue/* file were
plain C source file. I guess I've probably broke everything when I
misuse the -d and -D options from mergemaster.

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Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?

2013-02-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From smi...@nimnet.asn.au Mon Feb 11 16:59:49 2013

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:28:30 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   From smi...@nimnet.asn.au Mon Feb 11 13:49:38 2013
  
   On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:41:31 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  From: paranormal paranor...@isgroup.com.ua
  Subject: Re: which X driver for NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M?
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:23:40 +0200
 
  I have t61p with mentioned card.
  x11/nvidia-driver works well for me (at least quake, 
doom, compiz work).
 
 Thanks for all the replies.
 
 I bought a T61p for 220 GBP - what bliss!
 
 BIOS update - no problem
 HEAD r246552 - no problem
 wireless with iwn0: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 - no 
problem
 sound with hdac0: Intel 82801H HDA Controller - no problem
 CD-RW with cd0: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U10N 1.05 Removable 
CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
   and sysutils/cdrtools-devel - no problem
 X with nvidia0: Quadro FX 570M and x11/nvidia-driver - no 
problem
 flash as per 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
   (7.2.1.2 Firefox and Adobe Flash Plugin) - no problem
 
 In fact, no problems at all!
 
 I can't recommend it enough.
 
 Anton
  
   Suspend and resume?
  
  I guess no... However, I'm very ignorant of suspend/resume,
  so not sure I'm doing the right thing.
  
  - the T61p manual details standby and hibernation modes.
  Is this what you refer to by suspend?
  I can go into standby with Fn+F4, or with acpiconf -s 3

Ok, state S3 is what we call suspend, more precisely suspend to RAM 
(STR); windows and so most BIOSes call that state standby.

  but can't seem to get back. The disk starts, but the
  screen is corrupted, kind of black with very few white dots.
  I have to power off/on. 

A common enough tale these days.  I try to remain hopeful someone will 
get a more modern Thinkpad than the T43s (reportedly) or my older T23s 
(certainly) resuming in one unbroken piece every time again, one day ..

  The Fn+F12, hibernation mode code, does not seem to
  do anything.
  
  - I've had a quick look at acpi(4) and apm(8).
  I have:
  
  hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S3 S4 S5
  hw.acpi.s4bios: 0

S3 is suspend to RAM; S4 suspend to disk (STD, unsupported by FreeBSD);
S5 is power off, should work but may bypass some shutdown(8) processing.

S4, STD - 'hibernation' - has two varieties; with s4bios the BIOS 
itself 
writes machine state and all RAM to disk, usually a preallocated file 
in 
an msdosfs slice.  I haven't heard of any new boxes supporting this in 
BIOS for years; windows (since ~'95) and Linux (I'm told) support STD.

  -  Anything I should check/test in BIOS?
  I see that power management is enabled in BIOS.
  Is that enough?

It should be, but doesn't seem to work on many.  When it resumes with 
messed up screen, can you ping it, or maybe ssh in, or is it dead?

yes, I thought of this, but haven't checked yet.
I haven't got a static IP allocated yet, and
I somehow can never ssh into a box with DHCP allocated address.

If you boot it but don't start X, can it come back from suspend?

no, with or without X - same result.

Frankly, unless you're _really_ keen to get STR working, this could 
turn 
into not just a rabbithole, but the whole warren - you'll have to 
really 
want to be the bunny!

no, certainly not for me.
I'm all for helping committers with testing
patches and such, but for me suspend/resume
is not really an issue.

Sounds like a very nice machine otherwise :)

yes, it's definitely better than HP Compaq 6715s I used before.

cheers, Ian

Thanks

Anton
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Re: FreeBSD on Acer C7 Chromebook?

2013-02-11 Thread David Brodbeck
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi 
lenzi.ser...@gmail.com wrote:

 A long time ago I swear NEVER ever buy ACER product, the bios is no
 standard, and they do not care about the clients.


It's not meant to be standard.  Despite appearances these are not normal
laptops.  They aren't meant to be PC compatible any more than, say, an iPad
is.  They're meant to run ChromeOS and play in Google's walled garden.  I
don't really blame Acer for this; the design does what it's supposed to do.
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Chmod of /dev/ulptN

2013-02-11 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette


I exactly followed the directions here:

  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-February/238118.html

Nontheless, my /dev/lpt0 node still only has permissions set to 0644.

Why?

What did I do wrong?
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Re: Chmod of /dev/ulptN

2013-02-11 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33-0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:

 I exactly followed the directions here:
 
   
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-February/238118.html
 
 Nontheless, my /dev/lpt0 node still only has permissions set to 0644.
 
 Why?
 
 What did I do wrong?

Is this about /dev/ulpt[0-9]+ or about /dev/lpt[0-2]?

If the latter is the case, then maybe you should edit /etc/devfs.conf 
instead.

Something along these lines would help:

own  lpt0 root:wheel
perm lpt0 0660

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