Cliff writes:
Ok, 20 flavours of Linux and at least 3 of
*BSD; well...that's the way it goes...
Actually, it's not the number of versions that exist that is important, it's
the degree of similarity among them. Twenty operating systems that are 98%
compatible is much less of a problem than two
Erik writes:
Have you read any of the license agreements normally
accompanying commercial software? The big companies
generally don't guarantee a bloody thing about the
software, least of all that it will work correctly.
Yes, they do, and generally they will support what they sell. If they
Is there any kind of problem with syslogd and the -a option? I've tried
all sorts of variations (-a 10.0.0.x, -a 10.0.0.x/24, -a
myrouter.mydomain, -a myrouter.mydomain/24, etc.) and it just doesn't
seem to let anything through. Starting syslogd without any option works
(my router can write to the
Rob writes:
R On 5.3, I have following in rc.conf:
R syslogd_flags=-a 192.168.123.0/24 -b 192.168.123.254
R
R on the machine that has IP 192.168.123.254.
R It serves a cluster of 192.168.123.X with X = 1 to 7
R
R /etc/syslog.conf on the 192.168.123.X PCs has:
R*.* @192.168.123.254
R
R
Billy Newsom writes:
BN ...and that's all I ever see. But while this is being printed to the
BN screen, I get five beeps. I don't remember that many beeps in FreeBSD 4.x.
BN
BN BEEP, beep beep beep, BEEP
See http://bioscentral.com for a list of beep codes for many different
BIOS. Most BIOS
Robert Watson writes:
RW All I know is that the XP bits don't crash every week, they crash every
RW three weeks. :-) My NT4 box crashed almost continuously.
I have three machines, running FreeBSD, NT, and XP. All of them will
run until I boot them. They don't crash, or at least I can't
Mark writes:
M Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have
M to recompile your kernel? :)
Usually once when I first install the OS, then never again (unless I
change something in the hardware, which I hardly ever do). Windows
often has to be rebooted just to install a new
Robert Watson writes:
RW The problems I have on the Windows XP platform appear to come from a
RW lack of robustness in the face of nasty application failure.
A problem with the Windows environment as a whole is that applications
tend to assume that they have the entire machine to themselves, and
What's the safest and most elegant way to copy an entire directory tree
such that only newer files and directories are actually copied?
Essentially I have one directory that contains my test version of my Web
site, and another directory that contains the production version of the
site. Normally
Giorgos Keramidas writes:
GK cpio(1) does that by default ...
Looks like that's just what I need--thanks.
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J65nko BSD writes:
JB Have a look at rsync http://rsync.samba.org/ It is in ports ;)
I did look at it, but cpio seems to do what's required and it's already
on the system. Thanks anyway.
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Chris writes:
C Long uptimes = unsecured+unpatched boxes.
C Long uptimes? No thanks.
Most vulnerabilities are in daemons or other programs outside the
kernel, so one need not necessarily boot the machine to fix them.
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Frank J. Laszlo writes:
FJL Yahoo most likely runs some home-brewed version of FreeBSD. highly
FJL customized for their needs.
Why do you say that?
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Olivier Nicole writes:
ON Maybe for the same reason you should better not use a non-SMP kernel
ON if you have 2 CPU in your box.
Is a hyperthreading CPU identical to a second CPU from the software's
standpoint? If not, what are the differences?
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Jonathan Chen writes:
JC Not true on 5.3+ GENERIC systems. If you look at dmesg, you'll see the
JC second virtual CPU launched as well as the extra column in top(1) if
JC you enable HTT in the BIOS.
Well, now I'm confusing. I have an Asus P4P800-E Deluxe MB with an
Intel P4 processor mounted on
Giorgos Keramidas writes:
GK You need to enable SMP too, to allow the FreeBSD kernel to use the
GK second (hyper-threaded) CPU.
I found it, in a file called SMP. Why is the SMP option tucked away in
a separate file?
I stuck this into the config and rebuilt the kernel. Seems to run fine.
I see
Scott Bennett writes:
SB Well, no, not exactly. The dual-cored CPUs share certain resources
SB on the chip that are not shared in a multi-CPU situation, and that sharing
SB means certain operations have to be handled differently. An MP setup has
SB separate cache and TLB managment in each
Giorgos Keramidas writes:
GK The 'separate file' is NOTES. This file is actually the complete
GK reference of options that the kernel supports, so it's not like the SMP
GK option is hidden or something.
I must have a magic special version of FreeBSD:
# cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
# grep SMP *
Andrea Venturoli writes:
AV FWIW I tried numerical computations on a P4 with HT enabled: I expected
AV using 2 threads might give *at least slightly* better results, but I
AV could come to the conclusion that with 1, 2 or 4 threads the performance
AV gain (or loss) was exactly zero.
Where these
Scott Bennett writes:
SB I notice that the 5.2.1 boot messages refer to the second core as an
SB AP, which I'm guessing stands for attached processor. If that
SB guess is correct, then it means that only the first core is able to
SB perform certain functions, and the AP core has to get the first
Is there someplace where I can find definitions of the process states
that I see in the STATE column of top? RUN and CPU1 are easy enough
to figure out, but most of the rest are mysterious.
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Olivier Nicole writes:
ON Not always true, I had a P4 1.5 die on me for lack of fan.
I understood that all recent Intel processors will first slow the clock
and then halt completely if the die temperature rises too much, but
there may be exceptions (or perhaps some processors run so hot that
Subhro writes:
S This *used* to be true. I am using a AMD64 3000+ and the idle
S temperature is 28C. The room temp is around 12-14C. After asking this
S kid to crunch FPs for over 16 hrs, the processor temperature rose to
S only 38C. I am not using any special cooling gears, just the stock
S
Andrea Venturoli writes:
AV Not exactly the same algorithm and on different set of data.
But similar machine instructions, perhaps?
AV Yes.
Just the contention for the FPU alone might have had the effect of
single-threading the workload. That plus the SMP overhead might give
you a zero or
Olivier Nicole writes:
ON It was dead for good, well it is still dead as a matter of fact :)
The AMD processor on my XP system overheated and stalled a few times, before
I realized that the (brand-new) fan had failed. It still runs okay now,
though, with a reliable fan.
The other AMD
Colin J. Raven writes:
CJR I always understood in FreeBSD that Free Memory is wasted memory
In any operating system, free memory is wasted memory. But if you
suddenly need more memory and you don't have it, system performance will
slide right down into the abyss, no matter which OS you are
Andrea Venturoli writes:
AV I've come to the same conclusion. Still I can't put this together with
AV 100% load on both processors. If, as someone said, there is only one
AV FPU, *how* are these figures coming out???
The operating system tracks a dispatch of a processor into a process
thread.
Boris Spirialitious writes:
BS Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies
BS that need support for the latest hardware.
It's not a question of latest, it's a question of which hardware.
FreeBSD, like all operating systems, targets a broad but not universal
user base, and
Ramiro Aceves writes:
RA So, why do we start always the war? The real war should be against the
RA Bill Gates OSes, instead of fighting among us.
Professionals and serious amateurs in IT never wage wars at all.
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lg Don't they?? Then what are all the law suits about?
Business.
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Ramiro Aceves writes:
RA I do not like to start wars among free OSes, I enjoy fighting the
RA Bill OSes.
There are plenty of challenging video games on the market if you like to
fight.
RA For me, making the war against Bill OSes means using Free Software
RA OSes (Debian, Gentoo,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fac The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have
Fac paid attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the
Fac fastest version available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs
Fac because it doesnt support the necessary chipsets ...
While
Len Zettel writes:
LZ Better to expend resources on making 5.3 faster than 4.10 on all
LZ chipsets or retrofit 4.10 to the new ones?
New OS versions should always provide either better functionality with
the same performance, or better performance with the same functionality.
Ideally they'd
John writes:
J If you are running FreeBSD 5.x, you get the cool L option on
J dump which will automatically snapshot the mounted filesystems.
What exactly is meant by a snapshot, and how much extra disk space
does it require when dump runs? I've seen the warnings when I run dump
on a running
Paul Schmehl writes:
PS Not to pick a nit...well, ok...to pick a nit...developers do not
PS support systems. Support organizations do. If you're going to be
PS using FreeBSD in a corporate environment then you need to find a
PS good *support* company that can backstop your local admins. *Then*,
Xian writes:
X I installed FreeBSD on a machine with an Athlon 3200 that I accident under
X clocked to 1.4GHz. I didn't notice for quite a while as the performance was
X amazing any way. It didn't half go some when I put the clock speed up to
X 2.2GHz.
I think people nowadays forget how fast
Jorn Argelo writes:
JA Either way, I never want another server OS again. This is great.
If I had to install a dozen more servers today, they would all get
FreeBSD. It makes extremely good use of whatever hardware you care to
give it. Indeed, FreeBSD can turn even junky old PCs into productive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fac I think the junky old PC market is just what the current FreeBSD team
Fac is targeting.
At least someone is thinking of it. There are a lot of PCs out there
that are still in perfect working order, but are too slow to run the
hugely bloated desktop operating
faisal gillani writes:
fg hmmm exactly right .. u know i have a 750MHz At halon
fg with 256MB ram .. still my processor is 80% idle
fg most of the time ..
fg i also have some windows server on my network but
fg thats a compulsory rather then choice .
I'm gradually migrating legacy aps off my
Jay O'Brien writes:
JOB Thanks, but what I want to know is what risk I have with port 80,
JOB and only port 80 open.
The risk depends on Apache, since that's the daemon answering the phone
when someone calls in on port 80.
Just make sure you're using the latest version of Apache (1.3.33, if
Mike Jeays writes:
MJ I presume you have tried changing the boot order in the BIOS settings?
MJ You should be able to make the CD or floppy drive come ahead of the hard
MJ disk in the boot sequence.
Yes, I've tried lots of stuff. It's a HP motherboard and apparently a
HP BIOS. I've tried all
Giorgos Keramidas writes:
GK I've seen Windows machines lose CD-ROM or floppy drives, on perfectly
GK working systems. You may find that booting the installation CD-ROM of
GK some FreeBSD version locates the floppy drive just fine.
The problem is external to Windows. The machine won't even
Matthias Buelow writes:
MB And where do you think would they find this junk PC?
The first world could send it to them, instead of throwing perfectly
good PCs into a landfill.
MB Don't you think that's a bit condescending?
No, I think it's pretty realistic. Right now a lot of completely
usable
Scott Bennett writes:
SB The recent discussion in this thread causes me to wonder whether
SB FreeBSD's performance on older, slower equipment could be a
SB contributing factor to why hardware vendors like Dell and ATI are
SB willing to provide only limited support for LINUX and none at all
SB for
Giorgos Keramidas writes:
GK This is likely too. Floppies have mechanical moving parts that are
GK more prone to failure than other pieces of hardware.
The eerie part is that the diskette drive worked find right up until the
moment where I tried to boot from it. Now it doesn't seem to work at
Colin J. Raven writes:
CJR Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated?
Absolutely. That's the only safe way to protect data. Any disk drive
with platters that are even remotely intact can still be read.
I have yet to throw away any disk drives for this reason (can't find a
Colin J. Raven writes:
CJR I always thought that formatting/fdisk'ing twice completely erased
CJR *permanently* whatever had been on the disc.
Information can be recovered from disks even after a dozen or more
overwrites. The data is never safe with the platters intact.
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Matthias Buelow writes:
MB Wake up from your pipe dreams. Shipping decommissioned computers to the
MB 3rd world is not going to solve any development problem.
It helps solve an environmental problem, though. And they need not be
shipped anywhere. It is sufficient to just continue using them,
Matthew Seaman writes:
MS If your drive contains or once contained military secrets, then in the
MS USA and probably anywhere in the West, standard disposal procedure is
MS that the drive be completely overwritten with specific patterns of
MS random data several times, and then taken to a secure
Erik Norgaard writes:
EN Many larger companies have a fixed upgrading schedule, a pc lives 3
EN years.
One must wonder why. After all, they don't rebuild their offices every
three years (although some seem to replace company cars fairly
quickly--but mostly due to wear and tear, I presume, which
Speaking of reports, how do the daily, monthly, and weekly reports
output by FreeBSD get generated? I see nothing when I do a crontab -l
from root, but there's stuff under /etc/crontab. Is there a schedule of
cron stuff that gets run independently of any user, or how does it work?
If I wanted to
albi writes:
a check the /etc/periodic/ dir
I've seen it. But where does it run from? Supposedly you're not
supposed to modify crontab files directly, but where do these jobs
belong if crontab -l from root won't list them. Is there some sort of
system crontab in addition to those for root and
Sean Murphy writes:
SM We would like to use first initial last name for usernames on FreeBSD.
SM I am use to Solaris which is normally eight and if you have a long
SM password on Solaris it doesn't care what you type after 6 characters.
Solaris uses only six-character passwords? I guess it
Chuck Swiger writes:
CS If you are using traditional DES encryption, 8 and 8. If you use the
CS fancy new MD5 hash, _PASSWORD_LEN (currently 128 characters).
So which is the default?
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Christian Tischler writes:
CT Hi,
CT as I have an DSL line witch is 24/7 online (coming from an big and
CT popular provider) my servers sshd reports 30 to 50 failed
CT root/operator/etc. logins a day. I would like to block the incoming ip
CT for a few days automaticly after e.g failed login
Gareth Bailey writes:
GB If a cgi script is in my /usr/local/www/cgi-bin directory, what url
GB would i use to access the cgi from the web. Would i need to copy the
GB cgi into my data directory? - i tried this and the browser treated it
GB as a download.
It all depends on how you have Apache
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
vdvi 1) I want to read the mail on the server in /var/mail to root and to the
vdvi users. What console email reader should I compile (to be used under a
PUTTY
vdvi window, I mean)?
The mail command should do this. It lets you read your own mail, plus
the mail of
A few years ago, I'm sure I came across a one-line way of replacing
every occurence of one string with another in an entire directory of
files (potentially including all subdirectories as well). I think it
used sed or awk. Now I can't find it. The examples on the Web are all
multiline scripts
Sean Murphy writes:
SM what would most of you recommend doing?
I've been running at securelevel=3 for years. There are some things
that won't work (such as X servers), but not enough to be a problem for
me.
I've set the system immutable flag on virtually all the binaries as
well (not the
Tom Vilot writes:
TV Speaking of httpd. don't these seem awfully large?
TV
TV PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND
TV 7410 www 2 0 117M 28488K sbwait 33:11 0.00% 0.00% httpd
TV 7411 www18 0 119M 28172K lockf 33:05 0.00%
My thanks to all who replied. I ended up using this form (I don't
recall who suggested it):
find . -type f | xargs sed -i '' -e 's/foo/bar/g'
One problem, though: It appears that sed touches every file, resetting
the last modification time, even if it didn't actually change anything.
This
Hmm ... maybe I found it:
grep -R -l xxx /www/htdocs | xargs sed -i '' -e 's/xxx/yyy/g'
Does that look okay? Seems to work in my test.
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Giorgos Keramidas writes:
GK grep will do. You just have to pass it the right option:
GK
GK find . -type f | xargs grep -l 'foo' | \
GK xargs sed -i '' -e 's/foo/bar/g'
GK
GK When passed the -l option (this is a lowercase 'EL'), it will not print
GK the matched lines. Only
Gustavo Cevallos writes:
GC I downloaded and installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a computer. I go past the login
GC and password stage. Can I go to a full graphics mode? How?
UNIX doesn't have a full-graphics mode, although you can install and
enable software that runs under UNIX and provides a graphic
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM If you post on a public forum, by implication you are giving that
TM forum permission to publish your copyrighted material.
No, you're not. If you post to a public forum, you're giving implicit
permission for your posts to be visible _within that forum_. You are
not
Mike Hauber writes:
MH Not wanting to jump into this, because I think the whole of the
MH argument is ridiculous... But, in a nutshell... Aren't you
MH trying to make the same argument that SCO is trying to make?
I'm not familiar with SCO's argument. The principles of copyright have
existed
Mike Hauber writes:
MH If I were to send you an email and a header (or signature) stated
MH that you were not privy to the contents of the email, then you
MH could be in serious trouble.
No, because you explicitly sent me the e-mail. If the confidential
contents were not your own, however, you
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM Yes you are. What do you think publishing is?
Publishing is the divulgation of the tangible expression of a work to a
party other than the author, as a general rule. Under copyright law in
most jurisdictions, any publication must be explicitly authorized by the
I've set up a user account that has top for its shell (instead of one of
the standard shells). As expected, when I log into this account, I
immediately find myself in top, and if I stop top, I'm instantly logged
out. That's what I want. I use it to have a continuously running
console status
Loren M. Lang writes:
LML Right now I have two login processes running, one for each virtual
LML console I am logged in at the moment, though my ssh login shells don't
LML have any login processes for them. My guess is that there staying
LML around for some cleanup work to do at logout. I think
John writes:
J I am not seeing what you are seeing. I see a login process hanging
J around with the regular shells, just like you are describing for top.
It has occurred to me that all my other logins are ssh, so maybe that's
the difference. I don't have telnetd running at all.
J There's no
Peterhin writes:
P Is it better to leave a computer (a stand alone) running continuously or
P is it OK to shut it down at the end of the day.?
An age-old debate.
Advantages of leaving the computer running:
- Electronic components are not subject to thermal stress of start-up
and shutdown. Not
Chris writes:
C This question is better served on Google. BTW - if you're advanced
C enough to install and live with FreeBSD, you ought to know the answer to
C that one.
There isn't any fixed answer to that question.
Of course, if you are running FreeBSD as a server, then normally it has
to be
John writes:
J No, there are HUGE security concerns. The big problem is that
J many things have shell escapes. Top, as far as I know, does not.
But it's shell escapes that generally create the security concerns, no?
Except for things like buffer overflows, but of course all FreeBSD
software
Sandy Rutherford writes:
SR This is not so clear. In a March 2004 decision regarding P-to-P music
SR sharing, Justice von Finckenstein of the Federal Court of Canada ruled
SR that:
SR
SRThe mere fact of placing a copy on a shared directory in a computer
SRwhere that copy can be accessed
Robert Marella writes:
RM Am I the only one longing for a freebsd-legal mail list that I will not
RM subscribe to?
Unfortunately, ignoring legal issues won't necessarily exempt you from
being affected by them, especially if you operate any kind of public
server (and the definition of that can be
Sandy Rutherford writes:
SR Hold on a second. Shared P-to-P directories certainly are indexed and
SR Finckenstein knew this.
Where are they indexed? I though P-to-P was a proprietary
protocol--which implies that public services like Google can't index it.
An index internal to the P-to-P system
Kenneth Jennings writes:
KJ Ah. I bet there are more than a few people here who can repeat a
KJ horror story about what happened when a long running server was shut
KJ down.
Yes, I'm one of them. Many people believe that if a fan or disk drive
is showing signs of impending failure, it should be
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM This is a bit of twisting of the definition of site that is public
TM in my opinion.
The key distinction is between a venue to which access must be
explicitly requested and one that a person can visit without any
formalities. Asking people to register or subscribe in
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM In a clean room or positive pressure network room, where there is
TM an extremely low level of dust, off-the-shelf computer fans will
TM last many years longer than fans in a typical home PC.
What about filters? On my current FreeBSD server (not in a clean room,
Xian writes:
X I turn my computer off over night so I can sleep.
You're never a true system administrator until you can sleep surrounded
by the sound of fans and disk drives. Extra points if you can sleep
amid racks of datasets (less and less common these days).
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Mark Rowlands writes:
MR I use my gfs tights... christ... I hope she's not subscribed here as
MR well
What type of material and weave? Tights = stockings? Hmm. I never
thought of that--by gosh, it might work!
MR yup.. but only on old scsi drives
Unfortunately, my older machine has
Sandy Rutherford writes:
SR I'm not sure what you mean here. If you are going to call http
SR public, then wouldn't any other open protocol also be public?
It's a network that people explicitly opt into. For example, if you put
something on a P-to-P network, it's reasonable to assume that it
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM Many content creators take the attitude that any republishing
TM isn't covered under Fair Use.
Probably because that attitude is grossly congruent with the law and
jurisprudence.
TM That is understandable because the Fair Use doctorine is
TM deliberately broad ...
Xian writes:
X I have an archaic thing thing running a small web server and it is built a
X damn site better than most other computers I've seen. It has and old SCSI
X drive that's built like a brick.
What brand? My old HP Vectra is beautifully built, but you don't really
notice it until you
Joshua Tinnin writes:
JT What contract is implied here?
When a person subscribes to a list in exchange for receiving mail from
the list.
JT Is this what has happened here? Has the OP's ability to pay rent
JT been damaged by her archived post?
I don't know. It's easy to conceive of plausible
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
[everything snipped]
You've confused so many different and indepdent topics in your
posts--copyright infringement, access control, editorial control,
invasions of privacy, defamation, and the First Amendment, to name a
few--that I cannot respond to it coherently.
markzero writes:
m Actually, I've found that five machines, each with two disks, onboard
m graphics and sound, an average 700mhz P3 with a 250w power supply
m haven't really made a dent on my electricity bill.
My bills have been unusually high lately and it prompted me to do some
calculation to
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM Clearly I think Anthony is saying in his posts to me that the
TM list managers should e-mail legal boilerplate to every subscriber
TM that they would then agree to, which would basically state that
TM the poster waives their copyrights if they post.
Approximately,
Eric Kjeldergaard writes:
EK Let us make an analogue betwixt our Valerie and one who submits to the
EK local newspaper. There is a roughly equal level of consent given in
EK both cases ...
Not so, on two points: (1) the newspaper is obviously available to
anyone (it's on the newsstands), and
David Gerard writes:
DG That would sorta suck. I know I write my questions and answers with
DG a view to them being searchable on the web maybe months or years
DG later, as I know how very grateful I am to those whose archived
DG words have helped me before.
Having to search an archive of e-mail
Eric Kjeldergaard writes:
EK To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the
EK freebsd-questions Archives.
EK
EK Since we are discussing implicit contracts, I would think that the
EK announcement that the collection of prior postings is linked to and
EK mentioned/described to be
Eric Kjeldergaard writes:
EK Not always so, I know of many newspapers that go to subscribers only
EK (which local libraries are often among). This is especially true of
EK places without newstands.
It doesn't matter where they go. It only matters where they may be
expected to go by someone
David Gerard writes:
DG I go to a site called google.com and I enter error messages
DG verbatim, and often what comes back is a pile of mailing list posts.
DG They are far superior to nothing.
No doubt, but they are far inferior to a formal, well-organized support
system.
The lack of support
Eric Kjeldergaard writes:
EK Perhaps they take a greater risk, or perhaps things are simpler than
EK that. Perhaps, upon submitting something according to the simple
EK instructions with intent for it to be published, it gets published
EK as the general populous would expect...Often things are
David Gerard writes:
DG Actually, I most profitably apply it in my day job, which is administering
DG Solaris ;-) The purpose of vendors is to say to your boss that you have an
DG SLA; getting actual *support* out of anyone (with exceptions like NetApp)
DG is something best avoided IME.
Joshua Tinnin writes:
JT If you want real support, that costs money, and it doesn't matter
JT if you're talking about BSD, Linux, Windows, Solaris, etc.
Yes, and that's the paradox of open source. There's really no such
thing as a free lunch.
Even if you know your product inside and out and
Joshua Tinnin writes:
JT Since this is a volunteer organization, and it seems to me that you
JT have the most interest in it, and if you refuse to let this go, then
JT I have a suggestion. Hire a lawyer and write up a legally sound
JT plan, and then submit it. Until then, you're demanding things
Does anyone know why
grep -R \0x93 /www/htdocs
turns up only binary files, even when I know there are text files in the
directory that contain this character? Is there something special about
the way I specify the search string that causes grep to behave
differently? When I specify an 8-bit
Giorgos Keramidas writes:
GK It may not be related to what you are seeing, but grep(1)
GK is locale-aware. What it considers a text character
GK depends on the current locale settings.
I tried setting LC_ALL to en_US.UTF-8, en_US.ISO8859-15, and
en_US.ISO8859-1, with no effect. The character
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