Re: perl pause or wait
JJB wrote: I have perl script that issues the newsyslog command followed by 3 perl scripts that process the new .0 rotated file. Problem is the newsyslog rotate has not completed creating the new .0 and rolling through the other .x files before the first perl script in trying to open the .0 file for processing. Is there in perl pause or wait command I can use to allow some time to elapse before continuing with the launch of the next script? Using a statement that delays for a specified period of time is a generally bad idea because you can't guarantee that the operation will complete in that time. Hence, you should look into filesystem locking functions: 'perldoc -f fcntl', 'perldoc -f flock', and 'perldoc -f lock'. Alternatively, you could use the four-argument form of select to receive information about when the files are available, but that's probably too complicated for what you want to do. Reading through 'perldoc perlipc' is advised for what you want to do. Granted, it's not traditional IPC, but architecting some IPC would help to guarantee that you're not processing the files before they're ready. Yet _another_ possible solution: why do you have four scripts? Can you not do what you want with one well-structured script? Perl has virtually all of the branching constructs of C, and some of its very own. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Printing to a network printer?
Gerard Samuel wrote: Specifically to a Brother MFC3820cn - http://solutions.brother.com/mfc3820cn_us/en_us/ Im currently trying to print to it via CUPS, but Im getting nowhere fast. Every so often I see someone or more than one someone struggling with CUPS and I have to ask myself Why?. Why can't you use LPD? It's pathetically simple: so simple that even I have a networked printer working nicely. I remember going through months of pain with CUPS. And that was with a local printer! Maybe thirty minutes with LPD (ten if you don't count my initial, uninformed choice of an any-to-PS filter which gave unexpected output) and I have a perfectly functional networked printer. The LPD documentation in /usr/share/doc/smm/07.lpd/ is extremely helpful, as is the Handbook, http://www.linuxprinting.org , and of course the manpages. I actually printed 4.3BSD Line Printer Spooler Manual (the doc in smm/07.lpd/) when I setup my printer, and I'm very glad that I did. If it's a licensing issue, then you're using the wrong OS. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: the most light weight X web browser?
On Sat, 8 May 2004 02:28:32 -0700, Roop Nanuwa scribbled these curious markings: Take a look at Opera. It is extremely lightweight in both size, memory footprint and CPU usage. It also has a built-in kiosk mode which would probably be perfectly suited for use in the tea house. ... right. Opera is a kitchen sink suite just like Mozilla. That, and it's the ugliest thing on the planet -- even worse than anything Apple's ever released, IMO. If you want lightweight and fast, use links -g or Dillo. Maybe w3m. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgpxMA3c7znqn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: possible virus
On Sat, 15 May 2004 20:01:33 +0100, arden wrote: Ive just received an e-mail claiming to be from Microsoft telling me torun the attached patch It's a known worm. Look at the headers and you can clearly see that it's not from Microsoft. This is why I have mutt and Evolution configured to always show all headers. If you're bored, try running it under wine, though I wouldn't do that on a production system. =) -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgpwvwwzIMoFw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: digital video cameras?
On Sat, 15 May 2004 20:13:15 +0100, Ben Paley wrote: Anyone know anything about digital video cameras and freebsd? I've got usb but no firewire. What might be a good choice? And what editing software should I be looking at? Is there something in the ports that people like? I've had great luck with a serial camera, actually. It's a Kodak DC3200. I access it via the gtkam plugin for the GIMP, which is by far (one of) the best image editing program(s) for Unix (and Windows). If you don't want to go serial or Kodak, you'll still want to look at the list of cameras that libgphoto2 supports. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgp9IzF3xn0Cq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HP Printer not working?
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:48:22 +0200, David Telyas wrote: I have an i386 running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and KDE, but I can't get my printer working. It's a HP Deskjet 5550 connected via USB. I've heard about lpd and cups, but don't know which one to use or what the difference is. So can anyone guide a Windows user to an easy howto? Go http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_5550 there and http://www.linuxprinting.org in general. Look at the LPD instructions. Fortunately, your printer is supported perfectly. :D Oh, and for your own sake, forget about the Common Unix PITA System. It's far too complicated. I'll be glad to help you set up LPD. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgpfqaSf0FZkp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cannot Login After Using Kuser to setup Accounts
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:23:24 EDT, Mark Teel scribbled these curious markings: On a fresh install of FreeBSD 5.2, after I add a user via kuser, when I logout I cannot log back in! I get a message stating that the accound has expired, even for the root user. Looks like you got bitten by a bug in KUser that was shipped with FreeBSD 5.2. This has been fixed in the latest version. As a fix, try booting into single user mode, mounting your filesystems (it's important to mount them rw), and then fixing your passwd database with vipw. Regardless of whether that fixes things or not, it's a very good idea to update KDE to the latest version (or just use the robust user and group administration tools that have shipped with FreeBSD and that have worked for years). -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgpITL9raEAbo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Learning perl
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 13:10:05 EDT, Matthew Seaman scribbled these curious markings: On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 11:48:42AM -0400, JJB wrote: Looking for recommendations of best web sites for tutorials on learning perl, asking questions of peer group, lookup syntax, paper books, ETC. Three things: The Camel: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pperl3/ The Llama: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lperl3/ and the Monks: http://www.perlmonks.org/ Cheers, Matthew I can only mirror Matthew's advice with wholehearted enthusiasm. Start with the Llama, work your way to the Camel, and be sure to learn about the great services offered by the Monks. I have a couple of titles to add: Mastering Regular Expressions[1]: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2 Mastering Algorithms with Perl[2]: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/maperl [1]: Not specifically Perl-oriented, but a must-read regardless. [2]: Decent algorithms can speed up 90% of the code that you write. And when they can't, it's often beyond the capability of the software to help you. If you're really serious about learning and using Perl, you'll also want to look into many of the application-specific books written with Perl as the target language. There's database handling, XML processing, even bioinformatics. Most of these are O'Reilly titles, with at least a couple of major exceptions: Damian Conway's book on objects, and Lincoln Stein's (of CGI.pm fame) book on networking. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgpCHQXdONzdL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Proper way to start a program at log-on
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 21:42:04 EDT, Kirk Strauser scribbled these curious markings: Nope, that's fine. Of course, you *could* just leave it running forever, if you really wanted to. No, it is anything _but_ fine. If Gerard makes a mistake with mergemaster, his shutdown changes are lost. The proper way to do so is, as others have suggested, to place a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. If you want to do it completely properly, using rcNG (with rc.subr and rc.conf) is the way to go. Generally speaking, any well-behaved port leaves /etc alone completely. The only change that you should ever have to make to anything in /etc is a ${portname}_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf, if the port uses rcNG. Having third-party software muck around in /etc (especially things like a shutdown script) is a Linux prob ... er ... methodology. I'd hate to think of what would happen if an entry in /etc/rc.shutdown was incorrect, and caused the script to fail, thus not returning 0... -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgp5hBJkoW4Qi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mystery Ports
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 11:44:40 EDT, Jason Dusek scribbled these curious markings: Hey, So I have some ports open (111 and 1023) and I don't know why. How do I find out what is keeping them open? I'm told that 111 is related to nfs, so I knocked off nfsiod but that didn't solve the problem... Check the output of sockstat(1). 111 is rpcbind, needed for NFS, FAM, and some other things. 1023 is also NFS-related, IIRC. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgpo0ht4CKCae.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mystery Ports
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 11:58:43 EDT, JJB scribbled these curious markings: If you are running 5.x releases they have bug where NFS is run all the time even if you don't want them. You have to recompile your kernel without NFS support before they go away. You should submit an bug report about this. ... what? That's literally preposterous and ridiculous. My 5.2.1 system doesn't demonstrate this behavior. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgpH2GsCxpn7D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange pkg_info output
On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 14:01:11 EDT, Chuck Swiger scribbled these curious markings: pkg_info: package bsdpan-DBD-mysql-2.9003 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-DBI-1.42 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-GD-1.19 has no origin recorded Should I be worried about this? Or, how do I fix this? The messages are telling you that when you installed the package, BSDPAN did register it into the package database, but it (obviously) has no information about where from the ports tree you installed it; e.g., if you installed DBI from the ports tree, its origin would be databases/p5-DBI. Why you're installing packages that are in the ports tree without using the ports tree is beyond me. If you want it to be updated, send-pr with a patch. I would be interested in a fix for this as well, however. The simplest solution would be to create a port out of the module in question. It's extremely simple; a typical Perl module's port makefile fits on one 80x25 console screen, and its pkg-plist would fit on an 80x10 screen :). I've done this myself a number of times. Just remember that if you put the port in the category Makefile (e.g. databases/Makefile), any subsequent cvsup / cvs update will remove your changes. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgp9SHi8jGc7e.pgp Description: PGP signature
fetchmail chopping off messages 77 kB
I'm currently using fetchmail to retrieve my email from my ISP. It works wonderfully, especially in combination with procmail and SpamAssassin -- except for one little problem that I'd like to verify is a bug here before sending a possibly spurious bug report. It seems that fetchmail truncates all messages to around 77 kB or so. It sees the message as more than 77 kB (for example, one such message comes up as 975525 octets.). It just can't deal with it. Here's what my .fetchmailrc looks like: == cut here == set daemon 600 set syslog poll my.mail.server proto pop3 pass 'pass' ssl limit 0 fetchsizelimit 0 == cut here= I've tried cutting procmail + SpamAssassin out of the process, and it still truncates the message, this time sending to /var/mail/apeiron rather than where I've told procmail to send it. I've tried manually retrieving the email with mutt, saving it on disk, and viewing it with Evolution versus having procmail fetch it, then viewing it with Evolution. The former works, the latter doesn't. I'm running fetchmail as /usr/local/bin/fetchmail -v -v from cron with the @reboot qualifier. I've RTFM'd and looked around for anything that would cause such an arbitrary limit, and can't find anything. It seems rather odd that such a limit would be arbitrarily imposed on messages, and I'm hesitant to label it as a bug being that fetchmail is so widely used. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 3Com USRobotics 5699B 56k fax modem install
If you can, take your 5699B back and get a 5610B. It's a great non-winmodem made by USR, and it gave me many successful and uninterrupted dial-up hours. As an aside, someone should make a database of working modems, like with working printers. Someone might have done so already, /me shrugs. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
hotsmtpd dumping core on authentication
I just recently installed hotsmtpd from the ports tree on my -STABLE box. It runs just fine, but whenever I try to send an email, the process core dumps at the authentication step. I'm fairly certain that it's a configuration issue, but I'm not sure what. My guess is that it's something to do with SASL. Any help appreciated. Best regards, Christopher Nehren -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. - Please CC me in all replies, even if I'm on the relevant list(s). pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
multiuser screen sessions
I've looked through the screen manual, and did :multiuser on, :acladd $user, :aclchg $user +rwx ?#, and still can't connect to another user's attached or detached screen using -r $otheruser/ or -x $otheruser/. My screen is setuid root as the manual states is required, but I keep getting a message stating that there's been an attach attempt from an invalid pid, which it then specifies in parentheses. I've searched the screen manual for pid, and only found info in the synopsis and for the -r switch. I'm not really sure what else to try; I've even done :aclchg * +rwx ?# to no avail. I believe that I'm probably missing something obvious, but I'm not really sure what. Thanks in advance to any help. Best regards, Christopher Nehren signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
pom(6) doesn't accept date arguments whereas NetBSD's does
I've compared the versions of pom(6) on FreeBSD and NetBSD (which is also the one installed on Debian GNU/Linux), and the NetBSD one accepts a date argument. Why hasn't this version been imported into FreeBSD? I can see nothing in terms of licensing (or anything else for that matter, including a mailing list archive search for relevant issues) which would prevent it from being directly imported, without any changes to anything else in the build system. I've used it as a drop-in replacement on my system without difficulty. I've also thought of making a separate port of it, but it'd be much easier to just have it as part of the base system (no, it's not installed by the freebsd-games port). For those who are curious, the NetBSD version may be obtained at ftp://{MIRROR_SITE_URL}/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/games/pom/pom.c . To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
send-pr(1) requires local mail daemon,breach of contract for Comcast users
I'm running FreeBSD as the only operating system on my home machine, using Comcast non-professional as my ISP. My problem is that send-pr is written to use a local mail daemon to send mail to the GNATS submission site. Running a mail daemon, however, is strictly and expressly prohibited by Comcast's Terms of Service. Is there another way of submitting bug reports that doesn't require me to either breach my contract with my ISP, or manually copy and paste text for each report (yes, I've checked the web interface, which is 'currently disabled')? ... No, the answer isn't get a better ISP. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: send-pr(1) requires local mail daemon,breach of contract for Comcast users
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 13:09, Dan Nelson wrote: I'm sure runing an incoming mail daemon is the prohibited part. Just using it to send messages can't be prohibited imho. From the Comcast Acceptable Use Policy: You may not resell, share, or otherwise distribute the Service or any portion thereof to any third party without the written consent of Comcast. For example, you cannot provide Internet access to others through a dial up or wireless connection (unless you are subject to a Service plan that permits otherwise), host shell accounts over the Internet, provide email or news service, or send a news feed. You may not use the Service for commercial purposes. The Service offering is a residential consumer product designed for your personal, non-commercial use of the Internet. For example, the Service does not provide the type of security, upstream performance and total downstream throughput capability typically associated with commercial use. You may not run a server in connection with the Service, nor may you provide network services to others via the Service unless you are subject to a Service plan that permits otherwise. Examples of prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, running servers for mail, http, ftp, irc, wifi, and dhcp, and multi-user interactive forums. Apparently they think otherwise. In running the mail server, I provide mail service to myself. They provide me with POP3 and SMTP mail -- they want me to use them. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: send-pr(1) requires local mail daemon,breach of contract for Comcast users
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 13:29, Dan Nelson wrote: I'm almost positive that when they mean server they mean an incoming server. A sendmail that simply queues outgoing email for sending should not be prohibited. If you're worried, just send an email to their support group. I've sent them an email asking about the smarthost setup -- the ball's in their court now. Thanks for the help, it's most appreciated. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: send-pr(1) requires local mail daemon,breach of contract for Comcast users
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 14:51, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: You can always configure Sendmail to listen on localhost:25 only. This is what the relevant part of my rc.conf looks like: I'm sure that your ISP can't object to *this* sort of setup. Based upon a point raised by Bill Moran, I see how that works now. Thanks again to those who have helped me with this. Best regards, Christopher signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
PDL 2.3.4 marked as broken but builds without problem
I went to build p5-Gimp on my system and it pulled in PDL as a dependency. It failed, saying that the port was broken and didn't compile. Curious, I downloaded the distfile from ftp2.freebsd.org and extracted it to my ~ and built it on my own, without any patches (or errors). I'm not exactly sure of any relevant information which enabled my build to succeed, but I'll provide anything that I can. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: PDL 2.3.4 marked as broken but builds without problem
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 16:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anything you cd provide would be great - I tried to build PDL via the port today and it plotzed almost immediately. Was going to try to build it via CPAN but haven't gotten around to that yet :) Okay, first off my uname -a is: FreeBSD prophecy.dyndns.org 5.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Mar 11 15:31:41 EST 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PROPHECY i386 Some information on the dates of my ports tree: % ll /usr/ports/math/PDL /usr/ports/INDEX* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3194316 Feb 8 08:18 /usr/ports/INDEX -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3326343 Feb 9 01:31 /usr/ports/INDEX-5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7236608 Mar 16 13:10 /usr/ports/INDEX.db /usr/ports/math/PDL: total 12 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2453 Feb 20 13:42 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel58 Sep 25 00:03 distinfo drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 15 15:18 files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 786 Aug 22 2000 pkg-descr -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel11 Sep 25 00:03 pkg-plist I'm not really sure what else to provide. I'd attach `pkg_info`, but I'd rather not attach 26 kilobytes of text without permission first. One thing, though: did you attempt to build yours out of the ports tree? I built mine by getting the distfile from a FreeBSD FTP site, untarring it, and doing the standard make and such. If you showed me the errors which you've received, I could look at the relevant information on my system and perhaps devise a fix (or at least discern what allowed my build to succeed). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ./sshd start then nothing
On 2005-03-09, Tsu-Fan Cheng scribbled these curious markings: I am trying to enable sshd on my freebsd5.4 prerelease (I didn't realize this when I cvsup the stable source). Anyway. I read something in the mailing list which said that I should go to /etc/rc.d, then execute ./sshd start from there, this will make ssh-keygen to generate host key and stuff. I did this and there is nothing, the ssh_host_dsa_key is not generated. I have another box which runs 5.3, and it generates key when I did the same thing. I wonder where can it go wrong? Do you have the following line in /etc/rc.conf? sshd_enable=YES You need this line, or otherwise sshd start won't start sshd. You can use forcestart, but that will only start it once, and won't have it restart at each reboot. I recommend reading rc(8) and rc.conf(5) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache upgrade 1.3 - 2
On 2005-03-09, Perttu Laine scribbled these curious markings: Is it easy (or possible even) to upgrade apache 1.3 to 2 with ports. I'm running apache-1.3.33_1 with php5 and mysql 4 on FreeBSD 5.3 machine and now I'd like to go to apache2. Of course it's possible. It's even easy if you read the documentation and understand what's changed between 1.x and 2.x. I remember reading something about PHP not being thread-safe, however, and since that may be one of the reasons for your wanting to upgrade (worker saves one of my machines about 25 MB of core for equivalent functionality), you may want to rethink it. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix on FreeBSD
On 2005-03-09, Paul Schmehl scribbled these curious markings: Should be: postmap hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/access Really? I've updated hash files (not access, but canonical and transport) without the hash: prefix and they've worked fine. Taking a look at the top of those files even shows the usage without the hash: prefix (access included). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Who is using ACLs in production?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-13, Anthony Atkielski scribbled these curious markings: Anyone using ACLs in production on FreeBSD 5.x? If so, how do you use them, and what are your impressions? How do they affect performance, how reliable is the code, does it really help security, etc.? While not a traditional production environment, my 5.x webserver uses ACLs to keep user home directories relatively private but accessible at the same time. I didn't want to open up my home directory to every user on the system. But at the same time I didn't want to set my files to group www. ACLs provide a nice middle ground in that sort of situation. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCNIgUk/lo7zvzJioRAjh1AJ9z1tn23YSbKNmFlF8ef8f/ERReaACgmZGH x0X6e2WdHTXORTDlSPUtwXw= =Re5U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade a couple of nearly identical machines
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-13, Dick Hoogendijk scribbled these curious markings: I run three machines with FreeBSD-4.11 and lots of the same ports installed. Upgrading these three must be more easy then running portupgrade on every machine again and again, upgrading the same ports multiple times. This is waste of cpu power ;-) Make packages of the ports, and then install them on each machine? Use devel/distcc to split up the load for each? Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCNJGhk/lo7zvzJioRAqpoAJ9/XfkAxOYBqe/hu+jN3J0nIk4jAgCfSNQh WFbdBVpIKQDcrpJs+zh27y8= =SHZn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP server on 5.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-17, Aperez scribbled these curious markings: try to look into pure-ftpd. You might find your solutions with it As much as I've been tempted to recommend pure-ftpd in the course of reading this thread, I've restrained from doing so for one reason: despite the fact that it does support TLS-encrypted connections, very few *clients* support that. You can have the most encrypted FTP server on the planet, but it won't do you one mite of good if your clients can't talk to the server. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCONnQk/lo7zvzJioRAqtxAJ41nd73jgVw5ZSFgwn2aYheLrxqAwCdHzji UWtX3Py5xDH0mBdrI6Y3lZw= =iuys -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ebay Phishing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-20, Warren Block scribbled these curious markings: If you have your own mailserver, most of this can be rejected by using greylisting or by rejecting mail from dynamic Comcast IP addresses, while still allowing mail coming from Comcast's mail servers. Which is completely and totally unfair to those of us who *can* control our networks and who are more than likely being blamed for things that we aren't even doing (i.e. machines not on Comcast's network forging headers). DNS blacklisting is one of the most unfair methods of stopping spam. It's a real pain in the neck for me to edit my Postfix configuration every time some pissy netadmin decides to blacklist a whole netblock because of one or two (ignorant) miscreants. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPa89k/lo7zvzJioRAtqnAJ9EDa1GEhNIyphls0xSuPwvDq+48ACgh7qQ ctRpzUxRNGO9q8FCIdkyBYM= =XKVA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why acroread 5 -- 7 -- 5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-21, Albert Shih scribbled these curious markings: Hi all Why the acroread change version ? Last Monday : acroread -- acroread 5_10 Midle of last week : acroread -- acroread 7 end of last week : acroread -- acroread 5 There's a longish thread on the relevant cvs mailing lists which details the discussion that resulted in this series of events. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPu7fk/lo7zvzJioRAp8sAJ4uoFAILhCDmJ4OrNxL0d9nzaxzhwCfaR3F CEHo/o/nhMbxiKmJVVsFLbw= =A4s7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpan and POE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-21, Random scribbled these curious markings: First off stats FreeBSD 4.10 Release Now to buissness, Im trying to install POE and so I go installing perl -MCPAN -eshell cpan install POE Why not use the Ports Collection? ${PORTSDIR}/devel/p5-POE Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPu4Bk/lo7zvzJioRAtPmAJ9MjSNYe9alpftKiOUBvblnjDDQXgCbBdeQ mP+NxQXOlBtmvD+oE56bfFA= =HliJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: c++filt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-21, Andrea Venturoli scribbled these curious markings: The above program (from gcc) doesn't exist in base system, and AFAIK no ports installs it. Why? And where/how can I find it? [(12:15:27) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] uname -rs FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE [(12:15:45) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] which c++filt /usr/bin/c++filt [(12:15:47) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] [(12:16:00) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] uname -rs FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE [(12:16:05) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] which c++filt /usr/bin/c++filt [(12:16:07) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] Which version are you running? Did you install all of the distributions? (Yes, I know that my systems are out of date. But with GNOME 2.10, Xorg 6.8.2, *AND* KDE 3.4 all hitting the ports tree in very short order, system upgrades have fallen behind.) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPwIpk/lo7zvzJioRAsA4AKCrXgrqieC5X8hdUXIHbUP1IPJJwwCghisW NyruN5cNIsCozPonQpvr3K8= =CIHP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-21, Kevin G. Eliuk scribbled these curious markings: It's not recognizing it at all. If (as I assume you do) have X installed could you supply the output of 'scanpci'. It will provide more information. Perhaps a better idea, which doesn't depend upon X, would be to use pciconf, which is in the base system. pciconf -lv (run as root) should give the details about the card. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPx0Zk/lo7zvzJioRAvatAJ9QGm6Hm3TAbOGb3pA11b1ujrbPLwCgoFNI krajXADlcfMUT2oFp37AqqQ= =6tuC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [This is not quite on-topic for gnome@ since gnome@ isn't marked as maintainer, and it's not quite on-topic for questions@ since it's a port.] On 2005-03-22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled these curious markings: When I try to run adobe acroread7, and realplayer I get the following error: #/usr/local/bin/acroread /compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory #/usr/local/bin/realplay /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ls -ld shows: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -ld /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 523044 Mar 21 00:41 /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.a lrwx-- 1 root wheel 21 Mar 21 00:41 /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so@ - libgobject-2.0.so.600 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 243631 Mar 21 00:41 /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.600* Those are the *FreeBSD* versions of those libraries. You're missing the *Linux* versions. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCP6Mok/lo7zvzJioRAh80AJ4gfhHcWbNtaJ3+kVcdgxf7OH/mKwCfRYHo V6roB+QRbuoeS0hvhJdHtz0= =KkId -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dsc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Dikshie scribbled these curious markings: can somone porting dsc: http://dns.measurement-factory.com/tools/dsc and then port commiters commit it to /usr/ports/dns Yes, and that someone can be you. Porting things is rarely difficult (and when it is, you have the collected experience of the members of the ports@ mailing list to assist you), and quite addictive. Before you know it, you maintain a port, then two, then more. The Porter's Handbook is a good place to start. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCP7Pck/lo7zvzJioRAmbPAJ0W+HCstrnHxXYpj/N5dP5QaL2PmwCbBNHU fDbWePOcUSY+t2K1UkbXK9o= =39rF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard Repeat Rate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Tom Vilot scribbled these curious markings: After I start X, I need to switch to a virtual console and log in as root so that I can issue kbdcontrol -r fast. Do you mean that you have your system set to load X immediately upon booting, and that you do not set the keyboard repeat rate before then? If so, put the following in /etc/rc.conf: keyrate=fast And all should be well. Also note that you do not need to be root to issue that command. I need to do this command a lot when I reboot a machine on my KVM, because it registers as a keyboard disconnect which fouls up the keyboard settings, and having to su root each time would be rather annoying. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH3ek/lo7zvzJioRArSiAKCQkEj56qt9AeX5G+6Gp5TNSeOspACeLy05 t0ydLhuXH4uR9hZcfxOEJQs= =mJ0k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation with single / partition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Andrew Lewis scribbled these curious markings: [Please properly wrap your posts. 72 characters is the accepted maximum. I'm surprised that your Linux mailer doesn't do this for you.] Is this a serious no-no? In my opinion, and that of the author of tuning(7), yes. I highly recommend that you read tuning(7), and carefully consider the points made therein as to whether your single slice setup is wise. Just because Gentoo or $OTHER_POPULAR_LINUX_DISTRIBUTION does something a certain way doesn't mean that it's right (of course, the same applies to the FreeBSD way of doing things, but often it is right :) ). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH1Ak/lo7zvzJioRAqBYAJ4wkr0as3JvreUeOWM4Bz48YQAsHwCgsYl4 mAcNN5MRslGSYdTd31pnDdE= =nEoh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using portupgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Pat Maddox scribbled these curious markings: What are some considerations to make before upgrading the ports? Does upgrading them overwrite the existing config files? I've got a number of ports that aren't up-to-date, but this is running on a server, so I don't want to muck up the software and configs that are currently running. You have good dumps, yes? And you've read /usr/ports/UPDATING, yes? And you've reviewed any changes to the Makefiles of the ports in question, yes? Then you shouldn't have any issues. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH9Ek/lo7zvzJioRAo0eAKC7l+QyDgzY4J7bx7Yx/izqDHjHLgCgglXT 5X1U54MJxqxscr7Zl+fAcfc= =m7EO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems building jails under RELENG_5_3 (5.3-RELEASE-p5)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Robert Gogolok scribbled these curious markings: I think I did only make world without DESTDIR and specified it of course afterwards when doing make installworld. make world builds and installs the world onto your current system, leaving a /usr/obj intact. Unless you specified a DESTDIR for the installworld, it was spurious, replacing files already installed. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH7+k/lo7zvzJioRAvcbAJ9uk5UEfmqB/vB6kcstNTA4bx0tdwCdGDQj Zw8pvTooa9Ui2LTmU6NNDG8= =8psv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these curious markings: security note: vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even better, try a knocking daemon. This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH5yk/lo7zvzJioRArUSAKCZ1bG0K0cEQURwPfGOBmuqbzJjXwCeNw+8 ju5tvFvFnYTykLnP/5j9pzk= =PM2b -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: audio player (was: ayuda)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-23, Roland Smith scribbled these curious markings: If you are using the X Window System, I would recommend installing xmms from /usr/ports/multimedia/xmms. It can play a lot of audio file formats, like wav, MP3, ogg and flac, and you can compile playlists etc. Although you'll need a plugin to play FLAC files. Regardless of X usage, I would personally recommend mplayer. Sure, it's intended as a movie player, but I've yet to encounter a media file that it can't play. :) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQacnk/lo7zvzJioRAk7lAJ9Qg5gfxYHYSfQCiNvw1M692OeEkQCfetex mCXW8eHWNOMUdP2P9P+GxFI= =Z75C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache compile prob in portupgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-23, Ben Munat scribbled these curious markings: Just wanted to throw a me too in here... only with portmanager. Same error message. Luckily this is on my home machine, so I'm not too concerned about apache. Still rather annoying however... That's odd. I've been showing FreeBSD to a friend over the past few days, and he just installed Apache 2.x without any issues earlier this morning (EST timezone). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQafXk/lo7zvzJioRAnheAJ0QHieDlx7lcSBDKj/t+hHj48DmKQCgjgfN lho0ns3kqv2rw0G6ZxDMiuE= =qGih -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to find which port has a given executable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-23, Alex Zbyslaw scribbled these curious markings: % find /usr/ports -type f -name pkg-plist -exec egrep -H epstopdf {} \; Just a bit of nitpickery: I've found that piping the output to xargs rather than using find's exec produces faster results. Plus, you (most of the time) don't need to use constructs like {} \;. :) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQbSzk/lo7zvzJioRAirsAJ9oq+xJr6AHgscuUXBIzWvvsa33mgCeOnz5 8JesEMbAHU9K0SAgpb8B7eo= =nKZB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.X + More then one kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-24, Kimi Ostro scribbled these curious markings: How do I install more then one kernel? Installing a kernel is simply a matter of copying it to a place that the bootloader can access it. There's nothing special about the procedure. You probably even have more than one kernel already installed. Do you have a /boot/kernel.old directory? If so, then you (probably) have two kernels installed, and you can access the other one from the boot menu, which you can in turn access by selecting the appropriate item on the boot-up menu that displays the pretty and optionally coloured rendition of Beastie. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQitpk/lo7zvzJioRAvnBAKCuMmn6i/KUQf8ba52l4+NRIrsBEwCgoLHB JqrA838596At812lWmy8SeY= =nxDF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MAC module problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-24, Andreas Davour scribbled these curious markings: I'v tried to load a few MAC modules and try that security system. This oddity appeared in dmesg: mac_policy_modevent: can't load mac_lomac policy after booting module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (mac_lomac, 0xc056f4dc, 0xc1c285c0) error 16 It means exactly what it says. You can't load mac_lomac after having booted the system. You can see from mac_lomac(4) that you can put it in your kernel configuration, and that you load it from loader.conf. If you don't want to rebuild your kernel, you can use the module, if you have it. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQxeyk/lo7zvzJioRAsp4AJ45JnkDBFBam4gVDG2k9hLH4liikQCcDxBc e+k/HT8gj6Reblo7591oCE4= =FFOc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Autostart files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-24, Roeland Hemsteede scribbled these curious markings: I recently installed the ftp port wu-ftpd from /usr/ports/ftp/wu-ftpd. However I cant find out how to start this, I want to add this to the autostart by adding a line to my rc.conf but am unsure what line to add. I tried wu-ftpd_enable=yes but this didnt work, can someone help me out and tell me what line to add? You need to create your own startup script in order to make wu-ftpd work. I suggest following an example from another port. And, although normally I wouldn't do this, I can't send this reply in good conscience without warning you about wu-ftpd's horrid security record. People have even coined a phrase about Wu-FTPd's security record: Providing remote root since at least 1994. ProFTPD isn't much better, either. I strongly recommend you either use the FTP daemon that ships with FreeBSD or install something with a better record, like PureFTPD. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQxpmk/lo7zvzJioRAoyoAJ0Q2+GzTQ9u0JsXxzdP6fxk7GXCTQCfW7zi L51drHIqCIitRqJmajvZpU4= =npUj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing 4.x inside a 5.x jail / chroot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been submitting a number of ports recently, mostly Perl-based ones. Sometimes they don't work on old Perls (and Kris Kennaway has always been there to inform me; shame that I couldn't respond before Simon Barner did this morning). At the moment I don't have a 4.x machine configured to run the six or seven year old 5.005_03 release that's in the 4.x base system. This means that I can't (easily; switching the 4.x box to use 5.005_03 is a mess and I've broken my installation that way) test my ports before submitting them for systems running this ancient (but still supported) version of Perl. I've been considering installing RELENG_4 inside of a jail on my 5.x machine (the 4.x machine is too starved for resources now as it is, I don't want to make its life any harder), but I'm not sure how well that would work. Has anyone had any experiences with this? Any caveats? Can I simply replicate the instructions in jail(8) but with RELENG_4 bits? Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQ298k/lo7zvzJioRAioQAJ9GUOK8GUMToYmy3vCTIAJeo99fRACfTg6Q XXWwdphsI8PJNcfGaOBOYbs= =/5nI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-25, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: This is the shell config file right ? I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? FX-53# pw user show gert gert:*:1001:0::0:0:gert:/usr/home/gert:/bin/sh ^^^ The user isn't using csh, so thus their shell won't read (and probably isn't able to read) the .cshrc file which you've specified. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRKHuk/lo7zvzJioRArGAAJkBFLEM2T2UiAQx6edfuXqJZbvg6gCgqczc s0TKZAKc5WfuTfd6TyIgOVM= =9A5o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: Is .profile read by every shell ? No. If it was, users who disdain Bourne shells (like sh, ksh, zsh, and the ever-popular bash) for whatever reason (and the reasons are myriad, IMO) wouldn't be able to log in. This was alluded to in my post wherein I mentioned that sh probably wouldn't be able to read the .cshrc file (depending upon what you've placed in it). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRLM/k/lo7zvzJioRAk+cAKCUNn8Qj4vRQO5v7FD1LRm2gc1tswCfWHRG qfTAothpPrSG3q+69KQDG9M= =C3AA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: I would like one with allot of colors and a double tab completion that shows every command or file :) Uhm, colours where? And why follow Bash's silly example of requiring two tabs when you can use one? And why use tab completion which requires two tabs and which beeps at you for no reason instead of using ^D completion which only requires one instance of ^D and which doesn't beep at you? Is bash the only one that does that or can csh do that too ? No, csh can do this too, despite what seem to be misconceptions about csh still being in the dark ages. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRMXHk/lo7zvzJioRAl5OAJ423MK2MbD4qD1pDjsIEYVm+yhowgCgqRVM OteBGH37ETBUybOSsIZmR0M= =Xn6w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Kevin Kinsey scribbled these curious markings: --- and I suppose that's why there's no .tcshrc AFAIK on FBSD. There's no .tcshrc file, but if you read the manual for csh you'll see that there are semantics for processing both files, and that they are not equivalent. Users who have used Net|OpenBSD will know that having separate files is useful, because those systems ship with 4.4BSD csh and have TENEX csh (the one that's in FreeBSD) in the ports tree. 4.4BSD csh doesn't read the .tcshrc file, which is good if you want to put TENEX csh commands in a file without either using ugly if() statements or breaking csh. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRMaHk/lo7zvzJioRAqM5AJ4gprZe9EtPZsszSalpkuDCNEF26QCePS8t d6/s4xWcfJssagbTKuu8MZc= =Fyd1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Possible to trigger system events based on ip conflicts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Lefteris Tsintjelis scribbled these curious markings: Is it possible to trigger scripts/events based on IP address conflicts? Something that can be used as a backup solution, like a simple cluster failover, when one IP fails, the other takes over and when the first comes back on line the second one goes down (standby) and the fist one takes over again. What is the simplest solution to that? You mean like CARP? Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCROtCk/lo7zvzJioRAuBbAJ4jSYR2FKGe/5H2oT7Y7B988CZcegCcDRlI DzjMt/eF7CXmrPn1c810A4E= =dtB/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AWK in 4.X different from 5.X?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Francisco Reyes scribbled these curious markings: Are the AWK in the 4.X branch and 5.X branch different? Looking at http://www.shelldorado.com/articles/awkcompat.html#os11 it seems the AWK in the 4.X branch has strftime. I have 5.3 in my machine and AWK doesn't have that function. Probably because the awk on a 4.x machine is GNU awk, whereas the 5.x awk is the awk that comes straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, and so thus hasn't been extended with GNUisms. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRaMVk/lo7zvzJioRAnIaAJ9PoqgjruOl1n4xaWupkR8It5yEcQCggK5H Kt/c44EQ2hKao69bzpjfqa0= =E616 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dmesg -a lines' explanation? NEWBIE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-27, David Armour scribbled these curious markings: snippage Ditto. chmod: #permissions: No such file or directory chmod: are: No such file or directory chmod: set: No such file or directory chmod: properly: No such file or directory chmod: at: No such file or directory chmod: boot: No such file or directory Looks like you've got a runaway quote somewhere in your startup scripts. The #permissions part makes me think that you have a line that you thought would read something like this: chmod $filename #permissions are set properly at boot but, for whatever reason, the shell didn't see the # indicating the comment -- perhaps because it's inside a quote that isn't closed properly. I'm not familiar with your setup, but in either case I'd grep through /etc and /usr/local/etc (maybe even /usr/X11R6/etc) for that string, and see what I found. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRlAqk/lo7zvzJioRAiBHAKCrLVQbgP6TOdY6SkRpJk1eWLmQZwCgnhby cTdP7K+wIWt8BAtVzqi6JMU= =XP45 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which shell irc client do you like ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-27, Paul Waring scribbled these curious markings: I run it from a screen session all the time and it works well once you get the hang of it. I think you can make it beep when new messages come in but because I run it on a remote server I've never bothered to look into/activate this feature. Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you *somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol' terminal bell. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRt/kk/lo7zvzJioRAh86AJ9Ji+xagBoQX7cbKgnG4hpymXVHgwCgiNb2 JDfaZeTykxcz28TMckiLpx4= =IbOa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which shell irc client do you like ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you *somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol' terminal bell. so how do you do the beep thingie ? Becuase i did not find it ? By default, screen translates terminal bells into messages which are displayed at the bottom of the screen. The bad thing about this is that it dismisses such messages as soon as you hit a key. What this means is that if you're typing away at a document of some sort and someone mentions your nick on IRC, you may not notice. Using ^A-G (default keybindings) will make the bell audible, so that you'll be able to hear it. Whether your terminal emulation program that you use to log into the system translates it into something visual is another matter. If you want to always use this setting but you don't want to have to hit ^A-G every time you start screen, put this in a file named ~/.screenrc: vbell off And you'll never see that annoying visual bell ever again. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRvDnk/lo7zvzJioRAvQqAKCwMobp9DMHT/yNlEgeehsU97SS1wCdH6gp ZzWiNWqBEjNfFnvNcBLzaCA= =R0Kg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which shell irc client do you like ?
On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: And how do you turn on beeps in irssi ? /set beep_msg_level hilight I recommend perusing through irssi's online help. You'd be surprised at what's available (even *I'm* surprised, and I've been using it for a while; even tinkered with the Perl API). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: inetd vs standalone daemon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: Is inetd a daemon that start other daemons ? Kind of. Its manual page is very descriptive. Is sql and apache a standalone daemon ? SQL is (or is not, depending upon whom you believe) the Structured Query Language. It's a standard, a concept, an idea. It has no representation as software. Certain implementations of SQL, however, in server-based environments manifest themselves as daemons, yes. Certain other implementations in server-like environments don't manifest themselves as daemons (e.g. SQLite). Apache can be run either way, but I've never found a need to run it under inetd. It's always served me well in standalone mode. Can i delete inetd ? I wouldn't. Why do you want to do so? Besides, unless you add the appropriate flag somewhere in your buildworld infrastructure, it'll be built and reinstalled when you update your base system anyway. I vote we get rid of inetd :) And I vote that you research your votes before making them. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRxSuk/lo7zvzJioRAkQyAKCFyKQqlkY45qBHNgiEno1mfGD7rwCfc9ZD vFw39yYDXVwRd+wGEvNSOEI= =1oct -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: inetd vs standalone daemon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: So how do we remove it from freebsd ? Please let it be a pkg_delete :) If not witch freebsd source developer do i need to pull his leg to remove it from source into a pkg ? Here's a bit of basic information about FreeBSD. Despite what you may have learned about Linux, having every single file in the system managed by a package is *NOT* a good idea[1]. You end up with systems lacking compilers[2] that way, which confuse new users who try to build software. inetd is not part of any package, and I hope that it never will be. inetd is part of FreeBSD's base system -- the collection of software, documentation, c. that the FreeBSD group maintains on their own, separate from the Ports Collection which is (for the most part) composed entirely of third-party software. I will admit that this doesn't permit for the granularity available in Linux distributions. But personally, I don't want that sort of granularity. I don't want to have to *worry* about installing a compiler, OpenSSL, and the like. I just want to tell it to install everything and have it *actually* install everything. If you want to make a fully package-based version of FreeBSD, where everything from /bin/ls to /usr/sbin/inetd is a package, then by all means do so. You won't even be alone in your desire. I seem to remember a group of people vocalising a request for this a while ago. You'll never be able to count me as a user, though. :) [1]: I'm not exactly pleased with the distributions concept when you install, but since I always select All anyway, it's a moot point I suppose. [2]: And other crucial things like OpenSSL, which even crops up on FreeBSD from time to time. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRxbyk/lo7zvzJioRAuY6AJ97blX5BpXNuvL96dK2yHdKeS8NKACgqd/r P8L8J/sI8CveGycvd0yv/cg= =ytvh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which shell irc client do you like ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: Thx ps how do you do /set | more in irc language ? Have you tried using the backscroll, accessible (in irssi at least) with Page Up / Page Down? Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRxu9k/lo7zvzJioRAkSDAJ9haweGhIh26RzklyJhilgupulATQCeJVi4 zI7WihLvMPa9ieub338Ss6Q= =Rn6H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which shell irc client do you like ?
On 2005-03-27, Chuck Robey scribbled these curious markings: Just curious if you folks have tried the mozilla application, available only from mozilla (not firefox) called chatzilla? I have tried nearly all of the other IRC clients, it's not a minimal one, but it's very very nice. I personally try to keep things as console-based as possible. screen, irssi, elinks, mutt, slrn and vim are my best friends. I'd be in serious trouble if ncurses broke. :) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Userland dig/host for lookups against /etc/hosts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-28, Emanuel Strobl scribbled these curious markings: Is there one? Unfortunately I can't write one myself, at least not in a reasonable amount of time - --cut-- #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Socket; my $host = shift or die usage: hostshost hostname\n; my $addr = gethostbyname($host); die Cannot resolve host '$host'.\n unless defined $addr; my $ip = inet_ntoa($addr); print $host has address $ip\n; - --cut-- Needs some 5.x version of Perl. Works with 5.005_03 as shipped in FreeBSD 4.x. Also works with more recent perls. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCR6Rpk/lo7zvzJioRAg8pAJ4s69gjARzlc/ZL5sNKT2vSYa9XFwCbBILr ehnDiO3MuDC3b3nryMUx+Ws= =Z9c9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-28, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: 01:39 @root Trying to get all accounts connected... 01:39 @root Support for protocol MSN is not included in this BitlBee Did you read the Makefile? Did you follow the instructions contained therein? Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCSJvSk/lo7zvzJioRAk5OAJ9cmDJrCE9A9YxVsAg/L8kuCpp92QCgslvi FWq7dtVJf4HyjIBCK/Z4m0c= =QBSq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-29, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: but those instruction supposed to be written in a nice blue make config screen where you can select them. That's your opinion. So who can make a config screen for that port ? You can. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCSMkZk/lo7zvzJioRAoNaAJ0UmBqvGqPD0DFxDypfnOW4G99/IwCfVVpJ iSIO/uXJHJBq/a8dzd4xjDo= =a6u0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dmesg -a lines' explanation? NEWBIE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-29, David Armour scribbled these curious markings: [partially snipped for clarity] #permissions: No such file or directory are: No such file or directory set: No such file or directory properly: No such file or directory at: No such file or directory boot: No such file or directory permissions are set properly at boot grep permissions are properly set at boot Also, did you tell it to search files, rather than the default of standard input? :) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCSge0k/lo7zvzJioRAq/tAJ4naSRsukSmxx849sT3HGjz4Ov/swCfYKns fix6qNbDWACMsyMGkH7+Fvk= =ZO5p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: md5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-30, Lowell Gilbert scribbled these curious markings: Matt Kosht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a simple way to compare the md5 checksum of a file, to a file that contains possibly more than one md5 checksum entry in it? Kind of like mdsum -c does? I've never heard of mdsum, but try mtree(8). Matt is (modulo a typo) referring to the GNU tool md5sum, which is oh-so-conveniently named differently than the FreeBSD utility (which causes programs that call it, like mplayer modulo the patch that I sent in, to fail with md5sum: not found errors). To answer Matt's original question, I've found that something like this works well. This assumes that CHECKSUM contains the actual checksum of the file, and only the checksum of that file. md5 FILE mine cmp mine CHECKSUM Not as short as the GNU version, but still mostly functional. Though, now that I write this, I remember having written a Perl program that checks SFV sums against a given .sfv file. The principle is more or less the same for checking MD5 sums, or $FOO sums, plus a bit of processing. I'll see if I can't modify that program to do the sort of thing that matt wants. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCSjllk/lo7zvzJioRAjwYAJ99c7VbvBefbqW2XUHeoD759YxiGQCgs3Z/ +pzROFVhJ3r0dRiwM3sFrpo= =R79C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ntpd and ntp.conf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-02, Chris scribbled these curious markings: How do I manage to get a properly configured ntpd without giving the whole world access to it? Thanks beforhand! Regards //Niclas man ntpd Better yet, check out the Handbook section. Much easier to understand than the manual. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCTtiyk/lo7zvzJioRAgjgAKCCkxa0d2mvEFs5+fBBtLpt9zuFJQCgk1j/ ahE3ffgtKE5lgXnqLwybSDc= =A0bp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *attaching* a file to /usr/bin/mail message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-02, Colin J. Raven scribbled these curious markings: I'm not stuck with mail, I use it with some shell scriptsbut yeah, I guess I could use muttthere's an idea I hadn't previously considered. If you're doing scripting, why not use an actual scripting language, and some tools actually designed to do what you're trying to do? For example, Perl has MIME::Lite, which does exactly what you want -- and not much else. I've used it to automate sending email based on the output of make test. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCTtoGk/lo7zvzJioRArQJAJ9JC2uM3P7+vHtChU3qhV/c0GBbIACgnObf JXdlF8zucP10wfTfZGl5kDE= =sflC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound problem ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-03, Aaron Siegel scribbled these curious markings: My whining attached bellow [snipped] Then fix it. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUCABk/lo7zvzJioRAv3cAKCNMRWeU/ifdMwA8awajy912RhSqQCfaZIr J4MVUqriW+ze0XGdDEVJbUo= =bf3y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-03, Teilhard Knight scribbled these curious markings: Could you recommend a good boot manager, please? I mean, to boot several OSs, but not relying on Lilo. Not Xosl, because it doesn't work together with a Drive Overlay. What's wrong with FreeBSD's boot manager? Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUCllk/lo7zvzJioRArE5AKCjYRUK5mSjbRYp0Bh5wH+GrjLAFgCdHCac 1fL0g361cyYbHJWcBka2HFA= =2Hd+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Freebsd Install Guide Available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled these curious markings: YES there is something major wrong with the official handbook. The majority of the content is written like the reader already has good understanding of how FreeBSD works. It is not detailed enough for someone who has no previous experience with Unix like operating systems. As others have pointed out to you, why not contribute to the official documentation, rather than making FreeBSD more like Linux with dozens of different (conflicting, and most often *all* wrong) sources of documentation? Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUD+ck/lo7zvzJioRAotJAJ4jHOTgdMgCXjeLUJADRnfiC2Nu2ACgpTm+ YF548plsIx4TjkmJg75Rtz0= =Ztuv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-03, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: It doesnt have colors So? It's a boot manager, not a piece of artwork. It doesnt look pretty Ditto. It writes ?? instead of windows It prints ?? because it can't possibly imagine why you'd want to make that choice. :) Nobody knows how it works for example how to install it witout sysinstall :P Someone else responded to this. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUD9Mk/lo7zvzJioRAkDqAKCz+O+4FK3Arec7rUrgBuVkoZirOQCcCAwm NW8nY8mxtK7utOeUeqET7mU= =C8/6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: just got DSL, can't surf or get mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-03, Brian John scribbled these curious markings: Hello, I just got an xDSL system. In Windows I can browse the internet and do whatever I want just fine. However, in FreeBSD the only things that work are my p2p programs. Azureus and amule work fine, they both connect and download. However, when I try to use dillo, Firefox or Thunderbird they always timeout when trying to access the net. Does anyone have any idea what I can do to fix this? I had cable internet before and it worked fine. The DSL modem is hooked up to the computer through Ethernet. Sounds like a DNS issue, considering that most P2P programs are IP-based and thus don't need to perform DNS lookups. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUFjKk/lo7zvzJioRAnrNAJ0X+zBILiTL1qVJeGeYuuvXHk/2GACghku7 bltB+Pyu2SbzyCtYxYSvI6I= =gG5y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade failing on firefox and thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-04, Richard Danter scribbled these curious markings: Hi all, I am trying to update my installations of firefox and thunderbird. I have done this several times in the past with no problems but lately I get the following errors (see below). Anyone else seeing this? I can update other ports just fine... Remove the firefox tarball from /usr/ports/distfiles and try again. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUWRSk/lo7zvzJioRAlwxAKCeeQZ59kj/bLWL1NMz5v5nRqrKxQCdEW9h U+5cMkz0/eWKrxbaBj4VMS4= =UdPL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Sound after upgrading KDE
On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 21:37 +0100, R. W. wrote: I recently upgraded to KDE 3.3 (under FreeBSD 5.2.1) and the sound stopped working properly. I hear the tune as KDE starts up, but then there is no sound after that. Multimedia applications still work properly under XFce, it's just KDE. I suspect that you may be seeing the same issue that I do when I start KDE. Next time you start KDE (after freshly rebooting the system or proceeding from a setup where you know sound works properly), open a console login somewhere and run the mixer command. Note its output: what are the values for the various devices? I've seen that, after starting KDE 3.3, all of my mixer devices are set to 0 -- thus muted. They're not broken; you just need to manually reset them. The two important ones (at least with the sound cards that I've used on FreeBSD) are mixer and pcm, though cd may be important if you have your CD-ROM drive hooked up to your sound card, but I don't know for sure as I've never used that configuration. On my machine, with my Creative SBLive! PCI sound card (as supported by snd_emu10k1), here are the default, working settings: Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Mixer ogainis currently set to 75:75 Mixer line1is currently set to 0:0 Mixer phin is currently set to 0:0 Mixer phoutis currently set to 0:0 Mixer videois currently set to 75:75 Note that, as the manual for mixer states, not all devices may be present in your configuration, and you may have more devices than I list here. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Where'd it go?
On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 15:55 -0500, Gene Bomgardner wrote: I remember in 4.6, there was a file where one could determine where individual user accounts could log in from. I found it useful in that I could allow only certain accounts to log in via telnet via a particular interface. Since I upgraded to 5.2, I can't find that file anywhere, and I can't recall what it's called. I don't see it in the handbook either. Does anyone know if it still exixts and where it is? The file about which you're enquiring is called login.access(5). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Backup/Restore
On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:59 -0700, Richard Lynch wrote: If it's the latter, you could maybe get best performance from something like Subversion (a CVS derivative). Just a minor correction: Subversion is *not* a derivative of CVS. It does not share code with CVS, it is not based on the same code, and it is not related to CVS other than that it covers the same problem domain. If it were a derivative of CVS, then it'd have to be licensed under the GPL. Thankfully, it's not a derivative, and thus it's released under a much more palatable (Apache, which is a modified BSD) license. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: imapd problem.
On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 08:59 +0300, Perttu Laine wrote: I have problem with imapd. I can't start dovecot 'cause it says this: -- koaze# /usr/local/sbin/dovecot Fatal: listen(143) failed: Address already in use koaze# I appreciate your choice in IMAP servers. :) But I don't know what could be using that address. I had cyrus for a while, but I removed it and ps aux show nothing that could use imapd port. Only other email app running is postfix as smtp. `ps aux' doesn't show which ports are in use. For that, you should use the most wonderful sockstat(1). Running something like this should show you the Address already in use culprit: 'sockstat -4 | egrep :143\W' So. What could be wrong here? Exactly what the error message says: the address is already in use. Trust error messages: they're almost never wrong, especially when they're straight from libc. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: imapd problem.
On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 17:40 +0300, Perttu Laine wrote: 'sockstat -4 | egrep :143\W' -cut- root inetd 531 8 tcp4 *:143 *:* -cut- So. it's inetd. Now the question is why 'cause only ssh is not commented in inetd.conf (or then I should re-check it few times). And how I can stop that one? Something running under the name of 'inetd' is binding to port 143 on all inet4 addresses. Either that, or there's a bug in sockstat or the kernel structures that it manipulates, though I've not seen mention of that anywhere. Maybe it's an old instance of inetd from a changed configuration? Perhaps you changed its configuration but forgot to restart it? Trust your tools, for you are lost without them. By the way, please remember to CC the list when responding to people. That way, your responses get archived for all to see years from now when they have the same or similar problems. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: How to update perl on FreeBSD 4.9R
On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 14:40 -0400, Danny wrote: I am trying to install a perl CPAN module: mx1# perl Makefile.PL Perl 5.006 required--this is only version 5.00503, stopped at Makefile.PL line 3. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 3. mx1# All I know is that I need to update to a newer version. Ahh, you're trying to install a Perl module -- which, as luck would have it, has a FreeBSD port available. cd to ${PORTSDIR}/devel/p5-Date- Calc/ , type make install, and watch it do its magic. This is the recommended approach when a Perl module already has a port ready (and, fortunately, Perl modules are among the simplest things for which one can make a port -- you can often have a fully working port in 5 minutes, if you're even slightly experienced with the porting process). It seems that you're unfamiliar with the FreeBSD Ports Tree; I highly recommend that you read the Handbook about it, lest you spend 24 hours straight trying to make a large amount of software work on FreeBSD out of ignorance ... (/me blushes a shade of red of which red delicious apples would be envious). Note, if it out and out refuses to install with the system's perl, you should file a PR about it mentioning such -- I don't see anything in the port's Makefile which mentions that it absolutely requires a version of Perl newer than the one that ships in the 4.X releases. And with Kris' recent port breaking spree in preparation for 5.3, I'm sure that it'd be marked as such (unless pointyhat has 'use.perl port', which would severely hamper Perl module testing). Further, if it doesn't work with the 5.005 version in the base system, you'll need to install a version from the ports. I highly recommend 5.8 for various reasons recently discussed in a thread on [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: gtk-sharp build hangs
On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 18:52 +0200, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: BTW, has anyone managed to get DotGnu or Rotor to work? I haven't found them in the ports tree (I looked under ports/devel and ports/lang). Yes for DotGNU, haven't tried Rotor recently. DotGNU masquerades in the ports tree under the names pnet*, found under lang/. Rotor masquerades under the name cli, and is also under lang/. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Good newsreaders for FreeBSD?
On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 15:32 -0700, Joshua Tinnin wrote: Well, I'm not sure about pulling articles from multiple servers, but my GUI newsreader of choice is Pan. However, it never reached a stable or gold version, and it has been stagnant for some time, as the author doesn't seem to have time to deal with it these days. Many patches have been posted in various places online, but the version in the ports tree crashes frequently, at least on my 5.3-BETA7/STABLE (previously 5.2.1) box. I'd love if someone good at programming made it into a decent newsreader ... am learning what I can Hmph. Just a few days ago I was thinking about how Pan deserves a 1.0 version number because of its full feature set, stability, and so forth. It's never crashed here, and I've been using it since before 5.0 existed. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Good newsreaders for FreeBSD?
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 00:59 -0700, Joshua Tinnin wrote: Really? What version of FreeBSD are you using, and what's your window manager/desktop? Currently, I'm using FreeBSD 5.3B7 with GNOME + XFce's window manager (I happen to like window docking and some other features that Metacity will apparently never have), though I've also been known to use Enlightenment and KDE as well. I've been using Pan since before 5.x existed, and I've crashed it at most once. -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: starting apache2 just hangs
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:12:14 EDT, asolomon15 scribbled these curious markings: I am having a problem starting my apache webserver. I had it running just fine but a few days ago I had a power outage. When trying to start the apache it will just hang there and not start at all. Anyone have any ideas? What do your logs say? -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. pgpYOA5LKdTNv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Multiple handle_workitem_freeblocks calls, then a panic
I've seen the string handle_workitem_freeblocks coming up in the bright white of kernel syslog messages on my desktop's console for a while in periods of large disk IO. Now, while I was doing a -j4 buildworld on my system and trying to access a different disk, the system started printing a lot of these messages. The kernel then panic'd and rebooted. This transpired before I even realised what was happening, so I couldn't get the exact panic string. The only thing on my mind right now, which has me quite worried, is whether my disks are dying. Can anyone please shed some light on this? I'll try to provide any other information requested, but the system is turned off for now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple handle_workitem_freeblocks calls, then a panic
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 23:50:47 EDT, Kris Kennaway scribbled these curious markings: Could be..do a backup just in case. Also try the smartmontools port to see if the HD has recorded any defects. I've retrieved all important data from the disk, and running smartctl's extended test on both disks reports no errors. Nor do the disks have any errors logged, and the boot-up SMART check also states both disks as okay. In order to begin to diagnose the panic you need to obtain the information described in the developers handbook chapter on kernel debugging. I've got a debug kernel running now, and will attempt a buildworld again. Thanks for the response; I'll be sure to report everything I find with any (hopefully nonexistent :) future panics. Best regards, Christopher Nehren -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong people questions, you get Joel on Software. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. pgpMT9rb8hJCs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem with 'pkgdb -F'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-04-05, Sergei Gnezdov scribbled these curious markings: Here is the interaction with pkgdb. If I start 'pkgdb -F' after running it once, the process will repeat itself. owl2-root % pkgdb -F --- Checking the package registry database Stale origin: 'multimedia/nautilus-media': perhaps moved or obsoleted. - The port 'multimedia/nautilus-media' was removed on 2005-03-12 because: The first thing that you need to do is read UPDATING. The second thing that you need to do is read UPDATING. The third thing that you need to do you should know, because you've read UPDATING (but here's a hint, it has something to do with nautilus-media). Not reading UPDATING is a very good way of breaking your ports tree. I'm fairly certain that this is (part of) the reason for why you've had so many problems. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCUq8kk/lo7zvzJioRAsIQAJ9psqLYOseMfNkpGDMfE94e/RsROACfeoJI cglMQ6uFBTSKmD177Voh124= =yOAK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C++ Compiler On FreeBSD
On 2007-10-06, James Jeffery top-posted. [ please don't do that, it makes it very difficult to format responses correctly and makes it just about as hard to read and understand them ] Hi all, thanks for the fast replys, much appreciated. Manolis: Yep, its the book by Jesse, i never believe them when they say in 24 hours, its a snag for them to sell the book, they just split it up into 24 sections to make it look like its possible. I'd personally consider getting a better book. Generally, as has been said, the learn X in Y units_of_time books are titled that way for marketability. You can't *possibly* learn C++ in 10 minutes, 24 hours, 21 days, or even a year. See also http://norvig.com/21-days.html and http://accu.org/index.php/book_reviews for book reviews. Roland: Ive been working with PHP over the past 2 years, i understand the basics such as data types, functions, arrays, variables, objects ect, but i want to challenge myself and learn something that will benifit me when looking for work after uni, i've got another 4 years of learning before i complete my software engineering degree. PHP isn't really a programming language. It's more a fancy templating system that happens to be able to use extensions that can provide C style linkage. That said, I laude you for your desire to learn a real programming language, and agree with the recommendation that you start with something a bit higher level. Perl, for example, ships with absolutely top-notch documentation, and generally speaking, its third-party extensions have similar documentation quality. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -- apeiron Yaakov, And it seems to me that the only people going on about freedom these days are RMS and Bush. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]