Re: No Sound from Firefox
On 06/10/13 at 10:27am, Jerry wrote: Firefox has suddenly went silent. I can view videos on Youtube for instance, but there is no sound. If I save the video to dist and play it with MPlayer, there is sound. I did update several PHP modules the other day, but I don't know it that would have any effect on it. Also, on several sites, a video starts to load then a blank white area takes its place and that ends it. Any suggestions as to what might be the problem. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi, I think OSS support has been dropped from Firefox. -- Dave. GPG/PGP ID: CDB94DA1 pgpMp71G051bd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Errors building mysql55-client
On 06/27/13 03:13, C. L. Martinez wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Trond Endrestøl trond.endres...@fagskolen.gjovik.no wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:55-, C. L. Martinez wrote: Either the file named distinfo is messed up, or the maintainer has access to a different file than the rest of us. Maybe you should wait until the MySQL mirrors catches up. I'm going to confirm that this was a recent patch to the ports tree: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/databases/mysql55-server/distinfo?r1=320671r2=321789 It's pretty clear the versions the port is trying to download -used- to match the distinfo file, but they no longer do. This cryptic comment: Distfile rerolled to make it clearer the license of this community edition (GPLv2). seems to be the source of these errors which are biting me too. It would be nice for some clearer documentation on why distinfo was changed, what the real issue is, and what we can do to build this correctly. Naively speaking, the version available for download off the mysql site matches the old distinfo SHA checksum so I'm not sure why this was changed at all. I've CC'd the ports list and the responsible committer on this. I'll file a PR too if I get no response to this message. :) -- Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - d...@jetcafe.org *The opinions expressed above are entirely my own* Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: List Spam Filtering
On 05/17/2013 05:45, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:19:32 +0100 It seems to me that the level of spam in list is pretty much negligible. That would be a subjective statement. It is like asking how many times you have to slap your wife before you are considered a wife beater. Interestingly enough, the FBI won't classify you as a serial killer until you have killed a minimum of three people. This has gotten to the point of the ridiculous now. Comparing a few spam to wife beating and serial killers? That's just patently offensive, quite frankly. All this bike shedding and crosstalk has produced far more pointless email than all the spam I've gotten from this list in the last month. Capitalism: we brought you the pop-up ad. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD fstab Entry for Windows Share
When you say could not do an fstab entry, can you say what happens? Do you get any messages in logs? regards Dave -- http://www.marlinbrighton.com On 16/04/2013 08:45, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: Dear All , When a Windows XP share is mounted with the following command in FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 , it is working : # mount_smbfs -I 192.168.10.25 //user_name_in_Windows_Administrators@NetBIOS_NAME_in_Windows/Share_Name_in_Windows /mnt I could not be able to write an /etc/fstab entry to mount that share during boot . When examples in many documents from Internet are imitated , no one of them is working , or man pages are not much helpful. If an applicable , working statement is offered , it will be appreciated very much . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Dave Anderson Marlin Brighton Independent IT Consultancy Mob: 07710 537 909 email: d...@marlinbrighton.com mailto:d...@marlinbrighton.com web: www.marlinbrighton.com http://www.marlinbrighton.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD fstab Entry for Windows Share
When you put the entry in fstab and then try to mount it with fstab providing the details, what happens? i.e. without doing a reboot, test fstab by doing the mounts from the command line with the details in fstab regards Dave http://www.marlinbrighton.com On 16/04/2013 10:34, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: Dear Dave , By using information from Polytropon's message , I could be able to define /etc/fstab entry correctly . With respect to your question : When an entry is erroneous in /etc/fstab file , booting is entering into single user mode . After correction of erroneous entry , a fast boot is restarting . The above cycle is continuing up to a completely correct /etc/fstab file is supplied . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sendmail relaying for Intranet?
On 02/12/2013 12:54, Chris Maness wrote: I have a FreeBSD box running sendmail that can see the whole internet. I have another mail server that hosts mail for an intranet. It does not have access to the i-net. I think I remember reading that it is possible for the i-net attached sendmail to relay mail for a domain to another host. Is there an easy answer and configuration for this? If not, no biggy since this exercise is more academic than a necessity. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org in sendmail.cf on the host to be your relay, check for DS and use it like this: DS relayhost.domain.com in sendmail.cf on the hosts which will be relaying, use the DS command but point them to your new relay host. hope this helps. Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: FreeBSD in finance sector
On 09/07/2012 10:55, Kaya Saman wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of any financial firms or banks that run FreeBSD? We use FreeBSD for our lockbox/remittance processing system. We have non-disclosure agreements which prevent me from mentioning bank names, but the most prominent players use our system running FreeBSD. Last year our systems processed well over 1.6 trillion dollars in financial transactions. We do have a few smaller systems running Linux, however all but a fairly negligible amount of that dollar total was processed by systems running FreeBSD. Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem
nice ad hominem screed On 08/20/2012 12:57, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:40:40 + (UTC) jb articulated: This is a bad thing for all UNIX or UNIX-like ecosystems, performed under the noble flag of progress to neutralize and fight opposition. Do you have any idea how idiotic that statement sounds? What are you planning on doing? Are you going to lay siege to their domains and prepare for a full frontal assault? Seriously though, I have spent years attempting to get things to work in FreeBSD with either utter or partial failure. Wireless N NICs were totally orphaned by FreeBSD for years. Now, reluctantly I would assume, there is some partial support. Support for FLASH basically sucks. Hell, there is not even a viable Tex-Live port, an application that I have working perfectly on a Windows machine. The list goes on and on. The only constant I have been able to determine is that the open-source community, and FreeBSD in particular, would rather play the blame game as opposed to correcting the problem. Everyone else is always to blame, when in reality, all that is needed to determine the true source of the problem is to look in the mirror. The answer will stare them right in the face. I no longer spend days trying to debug a problem that I did not create. My time is just way to valuable for that nonsense. I simply find an acceptable alternative and move on. I don't need to be taking more drugs to control my blood pressure. I would strongly suggest that you find alternatives that suit your needs and leave the past behind. You'll feel better and enjoy life more. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
On 07/16/2012 10:10, Mark Felder wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade tools like Spinrite. I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you? ___ Nice ad hominem there. Very impressive. Perhaps we can sink a bit lower by making some random comments about people's mothers while we're at it. I've used Spinrite a few times with good results. It does take forever at times. I've also used the dd trick with good results. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
On 06/21/2012 10:08, Wojciech Puchar wrote: You seem to be unaware of what percentage of the development and maintenance staff and the money to pay for them comes from those commercial users. If FreeBSD cannot maintain the critical mass to continue, it will not continue. but why it isn't clearly stated: We put clang because sponsors wanted it. Because there's no reason to do that. It's an asinine suggestion. Clang is here to stay. Most of us are happy about that decision. GCC will still be in the ports tree for those of you who prefer to run it. Your questions have been answered repeatedly, ad nauseam, but apparently you don't like and won't accept the answers so you ask the questions again and again. You don't like Clang. You prefer GCC. We get it. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
On 06/21/2012 00:33, Hooman Fazaeli wrote: Dear community In the past, I built a 8TB ZFS log server on freebsd 7.4. However, the system experienced instablility after long up times. My main motive to use ZFS was UFS inability to support large file systems. Now, I want to the same thing on 8.3 and wanted to know your opinion on ZFS stability. Is there any success story using ZFS in 24x7, large volume, heavy duty servers? Is there any other option other than ZFS to build larger than 2TB file systems? We use ZFS for critical data and are quite happy with it. I've been using it in production since 8.1-R and have yet to have a problem. Make sure you do your zpool scrubs regularly. I use a cron job. We are currently migrating our customer RAID arrays to ZFS to ameliorate the multi-hour FSCK situations. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
On 06/21/2012 10:30, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Because there's no reason to do that. It's an asinine suggestion. Clang is here to stay. Most of us are happy about that decision. GCC Because most that are not already stopped and ignored thing. and use GCC. Politics won. Excellent. We have a winner. Now you can stop commenting. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
GPL runs contrary to the nature and intent of the BSD style license. Free and open software benefits us all. Getting rid of GPL is a good thing, and well worth any (debatable) performance hits. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Uptime [OT]
On 06/15/2012 08:30, Bernt Hansson wrote: Aha.A pissing contest and it's fridaycount me in... FreeBSD fqdn 4.11-RELEASE-p20 FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p20 #0: Mon Aug 28 07:21:42 CEST 2006 user@fqdn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HPNETSERVERFW i386 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I'll bite. Here's an internal machine. Old timers should appreciate the name ref1. I remember the original ref machine. I got to kick it in the head a few times. firewall0# uname -a FreeBSD firewall0.dev.vicor.com 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #5: Thu Nov 1 14:57:38 PST 2001 jul...@ref1.dev.vicor-nb.com:/usr/home/julian/checkout_test/prod/kernel/external_source/compile/VICOR i386 -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
If you read Fedora's page they were planning to tighten their boot sequence to then only boot their approved binary kernels. Save your old copies of lilo and grub. You're gonna need them if you want to stay on Intel Mafioso hardware. Risk of key revocation later If hardware manufacturer ships new bios or uefi, or user upgrades to new UEFI (eg I as a user must upgrade a uefi soon as a laptop overheats). + if MS get away with this intrusion, next they'll consider requiring a Call Home demon No, this doesn't run on the OS. It runs from UEFI in the BIOS. Internet connectivity is already part of the UEFI spec. Your box doesn't even to have to be running. As long as it's plugged in, you're at their beck and call. Say NO to the WinTel Mafia! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lost /var/db/pkg
On 06/13/2012 16:10, Waitman Gobble wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: On 13 June 2012 12:17, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: William Orr will at worrbase.com writes: Hello, I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add entries I know for sure about? forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6466 The application themselves are still installed and will keep functioning, you just removed the records of their installation. When you later install newer versions, you may have to use a force flag to overwrite files (the port thinks it is uninstalled after all). The new port installations will get recorded in /var/db/pkg again.' jb This will work if you need minimal downtime, but *will* come back to bite you some time down the line. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org you could cross reference the package .tbz files with what's on your system. ie, tar -ztvf apache-2.2.22_5.tbz shows you what's in /usr/local/bin, etc. Might even be able to focus on man pages only to get an xref index. I believe the files for /var/db/pkg are in the tbz files. if you didn't keep your system up to date it might be trouble matching versions, but you could get the list and see what's what, or at least have a good idea of what _was_ installed. I haven't tried but you could stick the 'current' files for /var/db/pkg from tbz, matching what's installed - regardless of the 'new' version and actual version installed, then to a pkg_delete --force then pkg_add .tbz . it might complain about missing files but will 'prolly function. If you have like 700-1000+ packages it might be worth the trouble. A thought :) Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org locate /var/db/pkg Might show you what was there recently... ls /usr/ports/distfiles might also go a long way toward showing you what you once had installed. apologies if these were previously mentioned. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice
On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9 on x86_64. I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in the following modules: vcl framework sfx2 tail_build Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make. This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it completed successfully. When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so forth. Q1) Is this a sensible approach? Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs and boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them. I did this and it worked for me. -- Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's an overgrown ugly mess. We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware and run a free (or in the case of Linux apparently free) OS on free hardware. There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good riddance! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
Wojciech Puchar woj...@tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: anyway NOBODY are forced to buy micro-soft software. That's almost correct but not quite. In 99% of the cases any Intel commodity mafiaware comes with a preinstalled Winblows. You're paying for it whether you want it or not. You can get a refund in many cases but it's more effort than most peoples' time is worth. Nobody is forced to buy a PC. True. I got rid of all my Intel mafiaware a few years ago and I don't miss it. It's nice in the winter as well. Doing this with PC market will result in larger market share for non-Wintel hardware. I hope it does but sheeple are stupid and don't care. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: Yes, let's all run ALPHA and MIPS hardware. I'll just jam my Nvidia card into one of the available slots and everything should work OK, right? Dear Numbskull, It's co-dependent hostages like you who enable Intel Mafiaware. According to your logic we should all be using Windows since everything just works, right? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.
On 13 Apr 2012 at 23:51, Frank Staals wrote: John McDonnell gorgar...@ymail.com writes: All in all, creating an entry in Site Manager makes more sense if it's something you connect to from your own hardware. From someone else's machine, the quick connect is quite handy though. Don't forget to clear out the entry from the dropdown list then. Because I think FileZilla will remember your password as well. Worst ``feature'' ever if you ask me Regards, -- - Frank Indeed it does, and yes I do (clear that list out) but thanks for the reminder, and of course it's useful info for others too. Regards. Dave. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 11:28, Frank Bonnet wrote: Dave B d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk writes: Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it up on the FreeBSD box. As always, the Manuals though no doubt correct and complete as a reference, are no good to people who don't already know How To do it. There is not much to set up. Just make sure you have sshd running. You can then just sftp (or any other client that supports sftp) to connect to port 22, or whatever port sshd is listening on. Regards, -- - Frank why not ftp over TLS ? like proftpd or pure-ftpd can do ? Hi. Because as yet, I have not figured out how to get ProFTP or PureFTP installed and WORKING without bricking the machine. There is no step by step how to (that I've yet found) with also guidance as to how to work arround the inevitable issues that occur. The man pages are just command references, not an instruction book on how to use them. Sorry. Hence, I'm using the native OS's inbuilt FTP facility. Even that took me 3 days to get going in the first instance. (file Access rights issues and poor, even if correct, documentation.) Regards. Dave Baxter. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 9:32, Frank Staals wrote: Dave B d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk writes: Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it up on the FreeBSD box. As always, the Manuals though no doubt correct and complete as a reference, are no good to people who don't already know How To do it. There is not much to set up. Just make sure you have sshd running. You can then just sftp (or any other client that supports sftp) to connect to port 22, or whatever port sshd is listening on. Regards, -- - Frank Hi Frank. Thanks for that suggestion. It works well! Issue resolved for now :-) FYI, you have to create an entry in FileZilla's Site Manager, for it to invoke SFTP, the Quickconnect feature just uses plain vanilla FTP. Best Regards. Dave Baxter. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.
On 12 Apr 2012 at 12:40, Da Rock wrote: On 04/11/12 21:51, Dave B wrote: FreeBSD FBSD.67MK181QZ 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 14 22:55:09 BST 2010 root@FBSD.67MK181QZ:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PPSGENERIC i386 Hi. I have a small FreeBSD 8.0 system (above, yes I know, not current, but it works.) That is mainly used for timekeeping with an attached PPS equipped GPS. No problems with that. It also has a small web server (Hiawatha) FTP server and SSH portal, for my own use. The FTP server is the built-in OS based ftpd implementation, and works well for all that I need. Anyway... I found a while ago, that I can tunnel connections into my home LAN via a SSH session to my FreeBSD box, from outside the LAN using PuTTY (on Windows XP) from wherever I am. It's been a useful dodge for me to do that so as to VNC to other boxes that are there. The needed SSH working port, is not the usual suspect, it's way up high, well away from script kiddies etc. I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when connecting this way using a SSH tunnel. Over the SSH session, (using Passive Mode, with all needed ports forwarded, plus the FTP daemon's data port usage restricted to the same range as those tunneled.) Though the FTP process appears to work OK, with no errors, the file sent to and deposited on the server ends up as name only, and zero bytes in length. Oddly, I can successfully create a new folder on the FTP server over the SSH session using the FTP client, and that works just fine. The FTP client I'm using, is the same FileZilla both times. (V3.1.0.1 I may go look for any updates, just in case.) Downloading works fine regardless of how I connect, it's just uploading that's screwey. I suspect (as usual) it's a rights issue, but even if I su - root after the initial SSH login, it changes nothing. I'd check the ports you are forwarding over ssh. Two ports are required for ftp and it sounds like one is blocking for some reason- the control channel seems to be working fine though :) As I suspect too, but as yet, I've not figured it out. I can as above download files just fine, so the data channel can be established for that, and I am using Passive Mode, so it *Should* be only my end (the client) that initiates a connection for the data channel. Also, two versions of FileZilla *Appear* to succeed uploading a file, no errors regarding being unable to setup a data channel, just that when you look on the FreeBSD box later, the file is zero bytes in size. Regards. Dave Baxter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.
On 13 Apr 2012 at 9:21, John McDonnell wrote: From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dave B FYI, you have to create an entry in FileZilla's Site Manager, for it to invoke SFTP, the Quickconnect feature just uses plain vanilla FTP. Best Regards. Dave Baxter. You can use the Quickconnect feature with SFTP. If you are running on standard port 22, you can simply put 22 in the port box. For non-standard ports, you can prepend sftp:// to the host name and it will connect via SFTP instead of FTP. Cheers, I'll try that next time I'm on the outside of my home LAN, it seems to work from the inside, as it would of course... At present, there a suitably configured link in the site manager. Thanks again. Dave. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.
On 11 Apr 2012 at 14:54, Mike Clarke wrote: On Wednesday 11 April 2012, Dave B wrote: I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when connecting this way using a SSH tunnel. Would it not be simpler just to use sftp directly rather than tunnelling ftp through ssh? -- Mike Clarke Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it up on the FreeBSD box. As always, the Manuals though no doubt correct and complete as a reference, are no good to people who don't already know How To do it. Originally, the FTP was purely for other machines at home to periodicaly dump data for some pages of the small website it also hosts. There was (is) no need for SFTP for that, as all the machines are in the same room at home. Thanks for the reply. Dave B. -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 1 Apr 2012 at 10:21, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Sunday 01 April 2012 08:57:00 Da Rock wrote: Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? My neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our block that was too low and a moving van hit it. Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is ok- just FBSD box is the issue. so, there is some difference. The questions are there to find out what the difference might be. Erich fbsd8 How do you connect to your TW ISP? Just a Cable modem of some sort, or is there a Router involved somewhere? It makes a whole world of difference I.e. How Physically do you hook together, in each instance, for the XP box, and F'BSD box. Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 1 Apr 2012 at 19:05, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:50:42 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Given that the other tech in question asked me to help him, and he is a Winblows nut like yourself, I think this premise can be dismissed out of hand. I won't even bother to qualify the rest, I wouldn't want to ruin your delusion. No delusion here. You have confirmed what I suspected. A classic case of The blind leading the blind. If one idiot can screw something up, just think what two idiots can accomplish? -- Jerry Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ In the world of the blind, the one eyed bloke is promoted to near god like status! Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
floppy boot hangs
Hello, I am a new user trying to install freebsd 7.2 using floppies and ftp. I have reached the part where I should start getting an ftp download but it couldn't find the server I had selected. Now, the Options Editor tells me that Media Type is not yet set and I am not able to set it. It seems that Media Type cannot be set once you have buggered up the ftp download. My question: Is something I can do that will allow me to set the Media Type from the Options Editor or must I go through the whole boot process all over again? Regards, Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]
Can I please request, you all check your mail client reply to settings. Many of the replies to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 (was it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list. Might the list settings need tweaking a bit? Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server somewhere. Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]
On 24 Feb 2012 at 17:28, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Friday 24 February 2012 17:10:21 Dave wrote: Can I please request, you all check your mail client reply to settings. I think, some - like me too - reply here always to all. Many of the replies to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 (was it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list. Wasn't it 389? :-) Might the list settings need tweaking a bit? Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server somewhere. Just collect all addresses from the list ending with freebsd.org? Erich Indeed, so some settings might do with a tweak, to at least obfuscate posters addresses, so that at least script kiddies are flumoxed. I never intentionaly use any Reply to All function. In fact, this mailer doesn't even have a button for that. You have to select where the reply goes, after you hit the reply button, from a list of available addresses in the incoming message header, that the mailer has recognised. Just a thought as this problem is not going to go away. Dave B. PS: How about a regional Beastie wearing a headscarf and carring an assault rifle instead of a trident? That's me targeted then ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]
On 24 Feb 2012 at 12:37, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk writes: Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server somewhere. It is public information: http://www.freebsd. org/doc/en_ US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff -committers.html DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address harvesting bots won't get anything usable. Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info, you have to re-type it manually. Most other similar websites have done that sort of thing with great success. I can't believe in this day and age, info like that is still presented in a way that makes it harvister-bot friendly. Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Email issues, relay failure
On 02/24/2012 13:52, Bender, Chris wrote: Hi, I am responsible for a system I know little about. Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to send to another machine. The senmail locally looks to deliver email to a que and the que looks to forward to another machine. However this looks to break.Can somebody help me diagnose and repair. It may be the remote machine never gets the email and thusly never delivers the email. Here is local machine response to my sending the following command echo test email from ccl `date` | mailx -s test email from ccl `date` c...@cell.com The que message show the following.. Running /var/spool/mqueue/q1OKcmpH017170 (sequence 1 of 20) c...@cell.com... Connecting to tools.wms.cellularatsea.com. via relay... c...@cell.com... Deferred: Connection timed out with tools.wms.cell.com. I can ping this machine via ping tools Is there supposed to be some type of handler on tools to accept messages. How would I know if it were postfix or sendmail? Is this possible to be on remote machine. CB Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org telnet remote_machine 25 does it connect to a mailer daemon? -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.
On 02/23/2012 09:27, Andrey Chernov wrote: Never underestimate the power of the Symbol! Hail Satan! So mote it be! -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: New iso format on 9.0
On 02/21/2012 10:28, Devin Teske wrote: Why can't you mount the disc on /mnt and then use tar after mounting the disk to copy the files from /mnt to /destdir ... tar cpf - -C /mnt . | tar xvpf - -C /destdir That will preserve hard links, symlinks, permissions, and times (and doesn't require rsync). There are other methods involving cpio, but I find tar to be nice. Just FYI, a trick using cpio which Julian once taught me: find . -depth | cpio -pdmluv /destination/dir/here -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: One or Four?
On 02/20/2012 09:44, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Jerry wrote: So, the OP posted a question about normal and/or preferred use of FreeBSD and people responded. Or do you consider this thread to be too technical? Maybe the discussion could fit in Hackers. Yes, hackers@ Would have been a better choice. sysinstall@ Perhaps yet better, arch@ Perhaps might consider it too trivial for them. current@ If poster intended to get new code committed to current. For most topics on questions, that aren't of the Help! I'm a struggling lost newbie class, there's a range of lists tuned to topics. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Cheers, Julian Hiya, We discussed this beforehand and decided questions was the better venue. I wanted to get some good general opinions, and definitely got some. I had hoped to avoid any type of descent into intellectual elitism, and on this point I failed. Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
One or Four?
Hiya, A question has arisen with the implementation of bsdinstall in 9.x as opposed to sysinstall in 8.x and previous versions of FreeBSD. It has always been FreeBSD's default to create four partitions and swap as such: / /tmp /var /usr swap The recent changes in 9.x with bsdinstall use a default behavior which creates only one partition and swap, with everything living under a single / partition as such: / swap We'd like a show of hands to see if folks prefer the old style default with 4 partitions and swap, or the newer iteration with 1 partition and swap. This is not a discussion of MBR vs GPT. The default moving forward from 9.x will be to use GPT. We realize that one can use bsdinstall to create as many partitions as one wants. However, the new default is for one partition and swap. We want to know if people would prefer the older style default with four partitions and swap when selecting Guided Partitioning and Use Entire Disk. Let the majority decide which layout is preferred for the default. Thanks, Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: One or Four?
On 02/17/2012 15:22, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Let the majority decide which layout is preferred for the default. No. Bad idea. Not on questions@, the list of the least clued up, the list raw beginners are referred to subscribe to. At least get a majority on hackers@ or current@ or arch@. Some answers one sees on questions@ are very good, but some are ... the other way. Cheers, Julian Actually, the discussion and ideas so far have been very interesting and helpful. Keep it coming. Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: One or Four?
On 02/17/2012 15:55, Chuck Swiger wrote: Yes. It works as intended even when /tmp is part of a single root partition; although mounting /tmp as a RAM- or swap-based tmpfs filesystem might be better for many situations. Sure it has its uses, but now you're jumping into new territory where the installer has to either ask the user to create tmpfs or make the decision to do it on its own. As has been stated, this is fine if sufficient RAM is available. Personally I don't like using RAM for tmp. Making this world-writable bucket part of / seems silly both for Desktops and Servers alike. You're welcome to your opinion. However, I suspect you're expecting FreeBSD systems to always be partitioned and administered by knowledgeable BSD Unix sysadmins, and those are not always so readily available as one might assume. I'm not sure why someone has to be knowledgeable to select a particular partitioning scheme. Is it better for a novice to have one big / to fill up as opposed to a separate /var or /tmp? b. A nuisance As Da Rock points out, ... recovering your system from a file-system-full-event when using single-/ is just as difficult regardless of Desktop versus Server. Having /tmp alleviates the difficulty. It would if /tmp was mounted on a disk partition, and if it also happened to be where space was being consumed. /var/log and /home tend to be more likely locations in my experience, but YMMV. Actually, in my experience I have huge problems with users misusing /tmp as a holding spot for all manner of files. I like keeping /tmp separate and smallish to discourage its use for everyday transfers. Those things belong in a users home directory, not in /tmp. However, for whatever reasons, the overwhelming majority of folks using MacOS X don't have problems using a single root partition, and while they sometimes do fill up their disks, that's a situation which they should be able to recover from without needing expert assistance. I don't recall having unusual issues in running a partition out of space under FreeBSD, either, or difficulty fixing things afterwards-- but such doesn't happen very often if you monitor your systems properly, and have time to respond to low-space conditions before they turn into out of space conditions. Regards, Previously you said that knowledgeable unix admins aren't as common as might be thought... now you're making the assumption that these same novice users will monitor their systems properly for low-space conditions. In a perfect world we all have snmp running properly or some other way to notify us of impending doom. In the real world these things always seem to sneak up and bite us on the behind. However this is all superfluous conversation if the installer gives each user a variety of options. You can select your one big partition scheme or go with multiple partitions depending on your preference, and from what I've read so far, this seems to be not only a reasonable idea, but also one which many people would prefer. Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: swap space
On 02/17/2012 15:58, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Jim Pazarena wrote: is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? A df seems to avoid the swap area. You're looking for swapinfo Regards, Chuck beat me to it. swapinfo or top are the two ways I normally check. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: laptop freebsd display not filling whole screen
On 15 Feb 2012 at 17:25, Fbsd8 wrote: I installed 9.0 on a Toshiba laptop. The Freebsd console only fills a small box in the center of the screen. I found nothing in the handbook about this so I am asking here. How do I get the console to fill to whole laptop screen? Many Toshiba laptops have a feature in the BIOS (Stretch or Expand) so that a 640x480 text screen (for example) will fill the full disaply, whatever the physical pixel resolution is. Looks weird, but it does what it says. Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fixit disc for 7.3 #1?
On 14 Feb 2012 at 18:01, Gary Kline wrote:
On 02/14/2012 05:40 PM, Da Rock wrote:
On 02/15/12 10:08, Gary Kline wrote:
guys,
is there still a way of fixing something i did to my existing
installation? it does nothing but continually cycle e and try to
reboot into the old release i had from feb 2011. i thought editing
out /etc/fstab would do it. but nope, it throws me into the lowest
level manual config and then hangs. i cannot even install release
9.0 which is the only other path. either some stable distro of
debian, or getting past release8 and going to 9.
first, tho, i need to get rid of this [[messed up]] 7.3.
let me share a story from when i was visiting a favorite cousin who
put up about half of NASA's huge antennas. long retired, he lives
out where not even god could find him. he wanted to see proof of
my beloved freebsd. so, using a new set of discs that i bought, i
started the installation. { FWIW, --this was in july, 2000. } I
happened to mention that freebsd had trouble configuring the
printers. or that that could get hairy. he stopped what he was
doing and asked me to get back to his windows toys and games. i
had a floppy w ith the mystery file MBR that removed that single
file.
my hunch is that since i never mess with anything but freebsd, i
left it configure itself by default and that the same thing that
stalled me for ten minutes back in 2000, might be what's stopping
me from installing anything over my 7.3 in 2012.
any wizards how how to fix this?
Are you sure you can't backup your important files and start again?
You might have a good deal of trouble jumping by 2 major releases at
the best of times.
Also, 9.0 is significantly different in many ways to 7.x in dir
structure _and_ filesystems, to just mention a few. I new (clean)
install would be _highly_ recommended ;)
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i have a working copy on 7.3 #4 on my Server. the server in a 2009
dell; the one that is busted and that i want to upgrade ---to either
debian-6-iso or freebsd9-iso is my old 2003 dell. two different
computers. the thing with the old dell is that nothing can boot off
it. it keep cycling, trying to boot a 7.3 #1.
i just remembered that the floppy disk was a DOS file with a secret
command :A:\MBR that got rid of that boot track.
it's looking more and more hopeless.
wasn't/isn't there some kind of fixit CD?
gary
Sounds like you need to get into the Dell's BIOS, and alter the boot
order, so as it looks first at CD and Floppy drives, before the hard
disk. Dell's can be funny things at times though, especially if it's
been setup for a headless boot (server mode)...
The old tool you're thinking of for DOS/Windows was FixMBR.
I thihk like 'Da Rock' has suggested, you best pull the affected hard
disk, and either put it in a USB caddy, then mount it as an external
drive on a working system, if it's not badly mullered somehow, or install
it as an extra drive in such a similar system, and get stuff off it like
that, is probably the best way.
Then, flatten it and do a clean install of whatever, with it fitted back
into it's original home.
Unless someone else comes up with a better plan.
Regards.
Dave B.
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Re: Printing directly to IP address
You're going to want to use lpr, and you'll have to set up /etc/printcap first. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/printserving-lpr-freebsd.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/printserving-unix.html The command I use to print to a printer set up in /etc/printcap: lpr -Pprintername filename_to_print lpq will show you the queue, lprm removes jobs from the queue. Hope this helps. On 02/14/2012 11:57, Jerry wrote: I was contacted recently by a friend who was studying printing under FreeBSDhttp://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/printing.html. He presently runs a mixture of Windows and Ubuntu PCs. The documentation deals primarily with parallel and serial printers. Personally, I cannot remember the last time I used either; however, that is not pertinent. My friend accesses the printer(s) the same way I do, via a wireless network. The difference is that I am using CUPS to achieve that goal. My friend would like to do it sans CUPS if possible. I know it is possible; however, I cannot find any actual documentation under the printing section in the FreeBSD manual. If anyone could provide a link to such documentation, it would be appreciated. Updating the Printing section in the manual would also seem like a worthwhile endeavor also. I did a quick perusal of the section and even USB is discouraged. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linux compatibility
On 13 Feb 2012 at 21:01, Da Rock wrote: On 02/13/12 20:08, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get Linux running various applications to the. Brandelf was applied to the binaries. But any Linux application crashes at startup. freebsd-desk# kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 21 0xc040 8c6d08 kernel 21 0xc0cc7000 4864 sem.ko 31 0xc41eb000 8000 linprocfs.ko 41 0xc41f3000 28000linux.ko 51 0xc44ae000 9000 i915.ko 61 0xc44b7000 15000drm.ko freebsd-desk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux linux_enable=YES $ /usr/local/bin/linux-firefox /usr/local/lib/linux-firefox/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 $ /usr/local/bin/eagle /usr/local/share/eagle5/bin/eagle: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 $ googleearth ./googleearth-bin: symbol lookup error: ./libge_net.so: undefined symbol: _ZNSbIwSt11char_traitsIwESaIwEE4_Rep20_S_empty_rep_storageE, version GLIBCXX_3.4 Does anyone a idea where is the mistake? I was going to wait and see if anyone else responded, but you are best off trying emulation@. Cheers Don't you have to install/load a module for Linux binary compatability to work in F'BSD? I seem to remember that being mentioned during a recent 8.something install. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Very strange netstat -rna output
Hello, I'm having a problem on a server of mine that is acting as a bridge, that whenever I download from the server itself it's very slow. From machines going through it's bridge there are no problems. When looking for what could be the cause, I had a look at my routing table and saw the following -- 10.10.10.1 0.12.da.44.e4.0UHLW20 bridge 1200 10.10.10.2 0.14.c2.60.85.75 UHLW1 87 bridge 1110 10.10.10.7 0.17.35.13.60.10 UHLW1 373lo0 10.10.10.30 0.25.90.1.60.83UHLW20 bridge 1110 As you can see the second column which usually shows a MCA is showing some rather strange output? What could be the cause of this? Thanks Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem with ntfs and fusesf since upgrade to 9.0
Hi, After upgrading from 8.2 to 9.0 I get the following and I am unable to access my external ntfs usb drive. KLD fuse.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: File exists All ports were rebuilt with portupgrade -af and the sources do match the kernel. Have I done something wrong or is this a known problem or bug? uname -a 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 -- Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Probable Hardware Failure
On 14 Jan 2012 at 16:12, Doug Hardie wrote: I have a pretty old desktop that has been around quite awhile. It has started periodic crashes. No log messages. However, the core status files all show double fault. I am confident this is a hardware issue, but is there any easy way to determine if its power or memory related? Those are the primary candidates although memory is also possible. We really need to replace the entire unit, but that might be a bit more salable if I can present convincing evidence of the cause of the problem. Doug. First check the Power Supply voltages are correct, and not too noisy. You'll need a good DMM, and 'scope for that. Then, Visually examine the motherboard. Are any of the round can electrolytic cap's Bulging at the top, or showing some brown or green gunk leaking out from where they sit on the board. Likewise, it's often worth checking the low voltage caps in the PSU too. CAUTION! Lots of volts exist in places inside them, take care, leave it a few mins after unplugging before taking it apart. If so, it's not uncommon, you'll need to re-cap the Mobo, and or the PSU. Chances are, it's just one particular make/type that has failed, so if the others look OK, just change the failed ones. Get the same value and voltage, but if you can from a reputable manufaturer, Panasonic or some such. NOTE! It's not uncommon either, for some parts to be installed at manufature the wrong way round. It's amazing they last as long as they do before letting go. Also, at least one Mobo maker had the wrong polarity markings on the board. In those cases, you'll need to buzz out the associated power rail, comparing the polarity of the suspect part, with it's copanions on the same power rail. For some common Mobo's, if you google the model number, you'll find websites selling complete re-cap kits, or offering an exchange service. This is A LOT more common, than failing RAM, but can present itself in many and varied ways, from corrupted display's, to systems that wont boot. Laptops are not immune to this either. Also, Hard Drives can go funny with age, not failing as such, but the surface getting corrupted so that the drives own logic cant always unscramble the mess to the OS's satisfaction. Then, there is the situation (I had one recently) where a failing PSU, caused Hard Drive data corruption. Mr Gibson's product Spinrite is the tool to use to fix that (and it did!) Not free, but more than worth the weight of a CD, Floppy or USB stick in Gold! But you'll need to make sure the Mobo and everything else is OK. It also works on Floppy drives, if you Just HAVE to recover that data. If you have a fleet of machines, you should have your own copy. No affiliation, just a more than happy long term owner/user of that tool. (www.grc.com) I've resurected more than one Sick PC by following some or all of the above, there again, I can wield a soldering iron with the best of them, and have the test gear to hand to fault find these things, and a source of parts. But it saves a shed load of money if you can afford the time to do it... Hope something helps. Best Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with ntfs and fusesf since upgrade to 9.0
On 15/01/12 at 01:18pm, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: Le Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:01:04 +, Dave Morgan davemorgan...@btinternet.com a écrit : Hi, Hello, After upgrading from 8.2 to 9.0 I get the following and I am unable to access my external ntfs usb drive. KLD fuse.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: File exists All ports were rebuilt with portupgrade -af and the sources do match the kernel. Have I done something wrong or is this a known problem or bug? It works for me (c). So I guess you have made something wrong. Double check that the source / kernel are uptodate and are the same as the release (ie cvsup RELENG_9_0). here (but with a hand built kernel) $ kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 44 0x8020 11cda30 kernel ... 131 0x8275a000 a96b fuse.ko $ uname -a FreeBSD roxette.lamaiziere.net 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Jan 7 17:18:15 CET 2012 patr...@roxette.lamaiziere.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ROXETTE amd64 Regards. Thanks that fixed it. I had tag=RELENG_9 changing it to tag=RELENG_9_0 is what I needed to do. -- Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing free bsd
Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? Daniel.. The Windows format has nothing to do with the problem. You need to take the .ISO image files, and burn a CD from it, not extract or copy it to a CD.. For Windows, I use this:- http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm It works very well, and the price is right (free.) Very easy to use. If you already have Nero Buring Rom installed, that will also take a .ISO file, and use it to burn a CD. Slightly more complex to use, but does a good job. (You need to select Burn an image to disk option, then go look for the .ISO file to use, it's not the default!) There are many similar tools for the job, but just unzipping the file to a cd will not make a bootable disk. Contrary to what some have said, Windows (certainly XP and earlier) do not recognise the .ISO format natively, so no ammount of clicking or double clicking on it will help. You do of course, also have to configure your PC's bios to boot from a CD, or know the hotkey to interupt it's normal boot sequence, and tell it to boot from an alternative drive. Hope this helps. Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: 9.0 install and journaling
True. But as a new user it was the separate partitions that attracted me, having been burned with linux's megaroot. And a new user would have trouble setting up the partitions. Not to mention the break with tradition (what is happening to this world)! :) I prefer having separate partitions because it's more in line with traditional unix systems, and in particular, I don't like letting users have unlimited access to /tmp. /tmp isn't a place for people to dump their downloads, large file copies, etc. They should do that in their home directories. Having one big partition only allows people to abuse /tmp, among other things. _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Free BSD Website Question
On 12/01/2011 12:17, Frank wrote: Hey Julian, Thanks for the kind response - rough crowd :) Some people on certain lists should just add the phrase Wanna fight!? to their signatures. We're not all like that. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [OT] but concerns all of us
My assessment is still being built so thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, Jerry Not that I paid attention to the proposal, because I decided a few decades ago governments were the root of all evil and nothing they do is for anybody's good. There isn't enough time in the universe to read and object to all the new draconian laws. The business of legislative bodies should be to constantly repeal bad laws instead of making new bad ones. But I digest... By controlling the root servers, they could blacklist anything. They already p0wned the root servers. Look at the Microsoft case. The federales went into private server farms and set up their own boxes. You think anything goes through American backbones and the guys in black suits with no sense of humor don't know about it, and can't reroute it or DOS it or make funny things happen already? Wake up and smell the Constitution burning. The Homeland Insecurity fascists strip search innocent citizens not accused of any crime (to hell with the Bill of Rights) and they (DHS) have already taken over hundreds of domains because they (DHS) accused the domain owner of running a website that sells forgeries of legitimate products like handbags, iphones, etc. No court case, no grand jury, no due process. Just gimme gimme gimme. I'm the government, get out of my way or I'll kill you or I'll confiscate everything you own and then I'll kill you. Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? There are too many laws now to protect anything. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ntpdate on boot problem
On 11/05/2011 14:52, Robert Simmons wrote: Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address? After setting ntpdate_enable=YES in rc.conf, I get the following error on boot: Setting date via ntp. Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: no servers can be used, exiting I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf. However, this box is using a static IP address. But the problem seems to be similar. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I believe the easiest answer to your question is to do the following in /etc/rc.conf: netwait_enable=YES netwait_ip=$defaultrouter This will cause your interface to wait until it can ping the default router. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2010-June/001987.html Enjoy, Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CARP related trivial question
On 10/26/2011 12:20, Snoop wrote: Hi everybody, I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. In the CARP man pages is clearly stated http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: __ To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as described in Chapter 9 with the following option: device carp Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the following line to the /boot/loader.conf: if_carp_load=YES __ I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on loader.conf. I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that working on any node. I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. Am I missing something? Any tip would be appreciated. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Incrementa la visibilita' della tua azienda con le campagne di email marketing di Email.it Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11846d=26-10 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Does if_carp.ko exist under /boot/kernel/ ? If so: [root@lefty] ~# ls -lart /boot/kernel | grep if_carp -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel197392 Feb 16 2011 if_carp.ko.symbols -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44336 Feb 16 2011 if_carp.ko [root@lefty] ~# kldload if_carp.ko [root@lefty] ~# kldstat | grep if_carp.ko 471 0x814fe000 4dd0 if_carp.ko [root@lefty] ~# should work. Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD
On 10/19/11 9:14 AM, Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote: When we buy a MD1200 we need a RAID PERC H800 card on the server No, you need a card that includes 2 external x4 SFF8088 SAS connectors. I'd recommend an LSI SAS 9200-8e HBA flashed with the IT firmware-- then it presents the individual disks and ZFS can handle redundancy and recovery. -- Dave Pooser Manager of Information Services Alford Media http://www.alfordmedia.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS Write Lockup
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: --As of October 4, 2011 2:43:45 AM -0400, Dave Cundiff is alleged to have said: I don't know what triggers the problem but I know how to fix it. If I perform a couple snapshot deletes the IO will come back in line every single time. Fortunately I have LOTS of snapshots to delete. [root@san2 ~]# zfs list -r -t snapshot | wc -l 5236 [root@san2 ~]# zfs list -r -t volume | wc -l 17 --As for the rest, it is mine. I have no good advice, but I have a thought. ;) The thought is: Why so many snapshots? And: How many other people have that many snapshots? I know that ZFS is supposed to be able to handle huge numbers of snapshots (far more than a few thousand, from my understanding), but if it hasn't been used much in that config, there may be bugs lurking. You might try weeding through and figuring out if you can drop a good amount of those snapshots. Also, try the filesystems list. They may have better thoughts. Daniel T. Staal Its for a backup service I've been working on. It takes a snapshot hourly of all 17 zvols. I was planning on keeping them for a month. I had the same thought about the snapshots and deleted them all yesterday. It appears there is some issue with keeping that many. I removed them all and the zvols are now functioning correctly. Its strange that the large number didn't cause incremental slowdown. While the snapshots were still there the IO was normal when it wasn't acting up. Just it would have spurts of almost total lockup until I performed a snapshot removal operation or 2. Thanks, -- Dave Cundiff System Administrator A2Hosting, Inc http://www.a2hosting.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS Write Lockup
Hi, I'm running 8.2-RELEASE and running into an IO lockup on ZFS that is happening pretty regularly. The system is stock except for the following set in loader.conf vm.kmem_size=30G vfs.zfs.arc_max=22G kern.hz=100 I know the kmem settings aren't SUPPOSED to be necessary now, buy my ZFS boxes were crashing until I added them. The machine has 24 gigs of RAM. The kern.hz=100 was to stretch out the l2arc bug that pops up at 28days with it set to 1000. [root@san2 ~]# zpool status pool: san state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM san ONLINE 0 0 0 da1ONLINE 0 0 0 logs mirror ONLINE 0 0 0 ad6s1b ONLINE 0 0 0 ad14s1b ONLINE 0 0 0 cache ad6s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 ad14s1dONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors Here's a zpool iostat from a machine in trouble. san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 7.92K san 9.08T 3.55T 0447 0 5.77M san 9.08T 3.55T 0309 0 2.83M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 62 0 2.22M 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 2 0 23.5K san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0254 0 6.62M san 9.08T 3.55T 0249 0 3.16M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 34 0 491K 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 6 0 62.7K san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 85 0 6.59M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0452 0 4.88M san 9.08T 3.55T109 0 3.12M 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 7.84K san 9.08T 3.55T 0434 0 6.41M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0304 0 2.90M san 9.08T 3.55T 37 0 628K 0 Its supposed to look like san 9.07T 3.56T162167 3.75M 6.09M san 9.07T 3.56T 5 0 47.4K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 19 0 213K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T120 0 3.26M 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 92 0 741K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T114 0 2.86M 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 72 0 579K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 14 0 118K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 24 0 213K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 25 0 324K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 8 0 126K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 28 0 505K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 15 0 126K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 11 0 158K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 19 0 356K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T198 0 3.55M 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 21 0 173K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 18 0 150K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 23 0 260K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 9 0 78.3K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 21 0 173K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 2 4.59K 16.8K 142M san 9.07T 3.56T 12 0 103K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 26454 312K 4.35M san 9.07T 3.56T111 0 3.34M 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 28 0 870K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 75 0 3.88M 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 43 0 1.22M 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 26 0 270K 0 I don't know what triggers the problem but I know how to fix it. If I perform a couple snapshot deletes the IO will come back in line every single time. Fortunately I have LOTS of snapshots to delete. [root@san2 ~]# zfs list -r -t snapshot | wc -l 5236 [root@san2 ~]# zfs list -r -t volume | wc -l 17 Being fairly new to FreeBSD and ZFS I'm pretty clueless on where to begin tracking this down. I've been staring at gstat trying to see if a zvol is getting a big burst of writes that may be flooding the drive controller but I haven't caught anything yet. top -S -H shows zio_write_issue threads consuming massive amounts of CPU during the lockup. Normally they sit around 5-10%. Any suggestions on where I could start to track this down would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- Dave Cundiff System Administrator A2Hosting, Inc http://www.a2hosting.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS Write Lockup
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_max: 23622320128 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.size: 16514197960 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.hdr_size: 698646840 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.data_size: 13480204800 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.other_size: 222586112 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_hits: 236859220 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_misses: 440273314 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_feeds: 998879 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_rw_clash: 41492 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_read_bytes: 1523423294976 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_bytes: 2108729975808 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_writes_sent: 908755 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_writes_done: 908755 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_writes_error: 0 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_writes_hdr_miss: 125029 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_evict_lock_retry: 78155 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_evict_reading: 52 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_free_on_write: 735076 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_abort_lowmem: 2368 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_cksum_bad: 9 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_io_error: 0 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_size: 88680833024 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_hdr_size: 2275280224 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.memory_throttle_count: 0 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_trylock_fail: 160181805 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_passed_headroom: 48073379 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_spa_mismatch: 0 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_in_l2: 101326826532 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_io_in_progress: 3016312 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_not_cacheable: 16631379447 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_full: 158541 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_buffer_iter: 998879 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_pios: 908755 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_buffer_bytes_scanned: 881025143301120 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_buffer_list_iter: 62580701 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_buffer_list_null_iter: 2040782 kstat.zfs.misc.vdev_cache_stats.delegations: 2167916 kstat.zfs.misc.vdev_cache_stats.hits: 2801310 kstat.zfs.misc.vdev_cache_stats.misses: 5448597 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Dave Cundiff syshack...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm running 8.2-RELEASE and running into an IO lockup on ZFS that is happening pretty regularly. The system is stock except for the following set in loader.conf vm.kmem_size=30G vfs.zfs.arc_max=22G kern.hz=100 I know the kmem settings aren't SUPPOSED to be necessary now, buy my ZFS boxes were crashing until I added them. The machine has 24 gigs of RAM. The kern.hz=100 was to stretch out the l2arc bug that pops up at 28days with it set to 1000. [root@san2 ~]# zpool status pool: san state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM san ONLINE 0 0 0 da1 ONLINE 0 0 0 logs mirror ONLINE 0 0 0 ad6s1b ONLINE 0 0 0 ad14s1b ONLINE 0 0 0 cache ad6s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 ad14s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors Here's a zpool iostat from a machine in trouble. san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 7.92K san 9.08T 3.55T 0 447 0 5.77M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 309 0 2.83M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 62 0 2.22M 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 2 0 23.5K san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 254 0 6.62M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 249 0 3.16M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 34 0 491K 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 6 0 62.7K san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 85 0 6.59M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 452 0 4.88M san 9.08T 3.55T 109 0 3.12M 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 7.84K san 9.08T 3.55T 0 434 0 6.41M san 9.08T 3.55T 0 0 0 0 san 9.08T 3.55T 0 304 0 2.90M san 9.08T 3.55T 37 0 628K 0 Its supposed to look like san 9.07T 3.56T 162 167 3.75M 6.09M san 9.07T 3.56T 5 0 47.4K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 19 0 213K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 120 0 3.26M 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 92 0 741K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 114 0 2.86M 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 72 0 579K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 14 0 118K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 24 0 213K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 25 0 324K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 8 0 126K 0 san 9.07T 3.56T 28
Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ]
From: Matt Emmerton m...@gsicomp.on.ca snip but i've been doing this for a while, and until i was away for five days, everything had been going fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a big UPS for your servers, you can afford a little one for your telco/network equipment. I'm using some PoE kit to power the router remotely down it's LAN cable, that in turn run's from the protected supply from the UPS. Said UPS also powers the main network switch, as well as my own LAN server (f'BSD based, to stay vaguely on toppic!) Plus two other PC's and a NAS device. It'll hold that lot up, for over 20 minutes when the lights go out (the longest unscheduled outage so far.) It's also configured to NOT come back, if it runs down and cuts out. I'll do that manually if needed. (Not so far.) I never did get the BSD port of APCUPSD to work correctly. All works well. Also, easy to do a router Hard restart, without going to the router itself. And if it does all die, it fails safe. Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A quality operating system
On 8/20/11 1:49 AM, Test Rat ttse...@gmail.com wrote: There is an ongoing discussion on arch@ about this. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html Thanks for posting that link; it covered some of the reasons I'm retiring my office FreeBSD servers in favor of Solaris and Linux. My own take: 1) I really don't see the Handbook as all that great. It's great that a volunteer team put it together, but when I compare it to https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/ or http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19963-01/index.html, I don't think the FreeBSD handbook compares well. 2) Lack of geek-on-the-street support. If I'm looking for an experienced Linux administrator, I'll get thousands of applications; for a Solaris administrator, I'll get hundreds. For a BSD admin? Maybe half a dozen? 3) Updates are a mess. It's cool that I *can* compile a new kernel, but that I *have* to is ridiculous. Updating a server should not be more difficult than yum update -- full stop. 4) Poor support from running FreeBSD under virtualization. When I start to think about deploying a new server, I'll generally spin up a new VM on my workstation or on an ESXi host. If I have trouble with that VM, my first response is not going to be to try again with the same OS, it's going to be to fall back to a configuration I know works. There are some things I liked a lot about FreeBSD -- its support for DTrace and ZFS was the reason I looked into it in the first place. But from where I sit, technologies like that are just duct-taped on to the base system rather than integrated. (For example, why isn't there something like the [Open]Solaris beadm, where the system creates a ZFS snapshot automatically before any major updates to let you revert to not just an earlier kernel but an earlier world?) Just my $.02. -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com ...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting GERONIMO!!! -- Bill McKenna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A quality operating system
On 8/20/11 1:09 PM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: Are you lazy, or stupid? man freebsd-update You know, someone more clever than you might have read enough of the message to realize that since I specifically referenced DTrace support as a FreeBSD advantage, I would have to be using a custom kernel, which pretty much kills the freebsd-update advantage. Add a modicum of self awareness and you might also realize that you're the poster child for the original poster's point 5, Hostile Community. Frankly, I don't give that argument against the FreeBSD community a ton of weight because *every* technical mailing list has some bitter losers with no social skills, but it might be food for thought, if you ever do that sort of thing. -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com ...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting GERONIMO!!! -- Bill McKenna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A quality operating system
On 8/20/11 4:38 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: freebsd-update works quite well and quickly on systems with a custom kernel with the additional caveat you *should* rebuild and install the kernel afterward, and even this isn't always necessary. This is assuming you're on RELEASE or some BETA. An honest question here-- how many people run production servers on RELEASE, never mind BETA? Mine has been running on STABLE, first 8.1 and then 8.2. I hold no brief for the original poster; I think he probably was trolling. I'm pretty sure Vadim Goncharov was NOT trolling on freebsd-arch when he wrote the message Test Rat referenced http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html. And guess what his post listed as the biggest hinderance to wider adoption? === 1. Social (psychologic) problems of community (marketing, docs, ...). This is the most important one, because all technical problems are just won't get solved because are even not viewed as problems. The FreeBSD Project does not listen to users' needs. The typical response when poor user want something is: we don't need this, we won't change for you, with where are your patches? at best. Then many users go out when see such attitude toward them. The key points are: 1) *The competent user is not zealot*. 2) The system is *for users, not for developers*. === I probably would have been wiser not to respond to this thread at all; once the OP threw the bait out there people were bound to get angry and defensive. But Vadim's post resonated with me, as he covered many of the reasons I'd decided to retire FreeBSD in my company, so I figured I'd add one more perspective. -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com ...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting GERONIMO!!! -- Bill McKenna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to get ip address automatically from different dhcp server
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:46:34 +0800
dave jones s.dave.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
I rearrange your mail and post bottom to enable others to have a look.
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:49:42 +0800
dave jones s.dave.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I cat get an IP address from dhcp server by adding the line
in /etc/rc.conf:
ifconfig_em0=DHCP
If I move my laptop to another place, I have to manually run
dhclient em0 to get an IP. Otherwise, it won't get an IP
automatically.
My question is it's possible to get ip address automatically from
different dhcp server? thanks.
Regards,
Dave.
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Have a look at /etc/devd.conf. Mine include a portion
#
# Try to start dhclient on Ethernet like interfaces when the link comes
# up. Only devices that are configured to support DHCP will actually
# run it. No link down rule exists because dhclient automaticly exits
# when the link goes down.
#
notify 0 {
match system IFNET;
match type LINK_UP;
media-type ethernet;
action /etc/rc.d/dhclient quietstart $subsystem;
};
#
notify 0 {
match system IFNET;
match type LINK_DOWN;
media-type ethernet;
action /etc/rc.d/dhclient quietstop $subsystem ; ifconfig
$subsystem inet 0.0.0.0;
};
I am under the impression that this rule does what you want to do.
Cheers,
--
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TZ GMT + 2
Hi Christopher,
Thanks for your solution. It does help a lot, but there's one problem.
For example, DHCP server is not started for some reason and my computer's
ethernet cable is plugged. Once dhcp server started, I can't get the IP
unless
I unplug and then plug the ethernet cable. Do you know how to solve
this issue? Thank you.
Regards,
Dave.
Ok. To check whether I understand what you are saying: Your computer is
running, but an external DHCP-server is not. Your computer tries to get an IP
from the external DHCP server, which is down, so dhclient is unsuccessful.
You then kick the DHCP-server back to live and then you have to plug in and
out to get an IP?
Right. I'm sorry for the confusion.
Assuming I understand correctly, that is exactly what should happen. You see,
normally DHCP-servers don't flood the network with Hello all dhclients, I am
dhcp-server, please tell me if you need an IP, usually the opposite
direction is in order as in hello dhcp-server, I am dhclient, I need an IP,
please give me one.
You now have two options: 1) You coerce a manual request be running dhclient.
2) You plug in and out, which runs dhclient as you have configured to do so
in your devd.conf.
Of course you can set the retry-time for dhclient (see `man dhclient`) to an
absurldly low threshold, so you are saved doing the dhcp-discover-procedure
manually. It is, however, dubious, whether you want to do so. It might be a
smarter way to fix that DHCP-server of yours.
Thank you for the clear explanation. I will add retry 10 in
dhclient.conf and give it a try.
I'm wondering if net/ifstated will work in this case. I'll give it a
shot as well.
Thanks again!
Hope to have been of some help here,
cheers
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TZ GMT + 2
Regards,
Dave.
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Re: How to get ip address automatically from different dhcp server
Hi Christopher,
Thanks for your solution. It does help a lot, but there's one problem.
For example, DHCP server is not started for some reason and my computer's
ethernet cable is plugged. Once dhcp server started, I can't get the IP unless
I unplug and then plug the ethernet cable. Do you know how to solve
this issue? Thank you.
Regards,
Dave.
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:49:42 +0800
dave jones s.dave.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I cat get an IP address from dhcp server by adding the line
in /etc/rc.conf:
ifconfig_em0=DHCP
If I move my laptop to another place, I have to manually run
dhclient em0 to get an IP. Otherwise, it won't get an IP
automatically.
My question is it's possible to get ip address automatically from
different dhcp server? thanks.
Regards,
Dave.
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Have a look at /etc/devd.conf. Mine include a portion
#
# Try to start dhclient on Ethernet like interfaces when the link comes
# up. Only devices that are configured to support DHCP will actually
# run it. No link down rule exists because dhclient automaticly exits
# when the link goes down.
#
notify 0 {
match system IFNET;
match type LINK_UP;
media-type ethernet;
action /etc/rc.d/dhclient quietstart $subsystem;
};
#
notify 0 {
match system IFNET;
match type LINK_DOWN;
media-type ethernet;
action /etc/rc.d/dhclient quietstop $subsystem ; ifconfig $subsystem
inet 0.0.0.0;
};
I am under the impression that this rule does what you want to do.
Cheers,
--
Christopher J. Ruwe
TZ GMT + 2
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How to get ip address automatically from different dhcp server
Hi, I cat get an IP address from dhcp server by adding the line in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_em0=DHCP If I move my laptop to another place, I have to manually run dhclient em0 to get an IP. Otherwise, it won't get an IP automatically. My question is it's possible to get ip address automatically from different dhcp server? thanks. Regards, Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Question about regular expressions
Hi, I have a config file below: $user= 'root'; // This is the username if $user is found, I want to display root. Anyone knows how to programming in C or some other language? thank you. Regards, Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
Using primarily FreeBSD, and in fact, still FreeBSD 4.11 (we are in the process of upgrading to 8.x now), our systems moved well over 1.6 trillion dollars in business to business financial transactions last year. I'd hardly call that irrelevant. On 07/17/2011 04:10, Jerry wrote: While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/11/07/16/0020243/Lennart-Poettering-BSD-Isnt-Relevant-Anymore Interestingly enough, a great deal of it is true. It might be interesting to know how others feel about it. Obviously, asking that question on this forum is like playing against a stacked deck; however, it still might prove interesting. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com __ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SAS controller for FreeBSD
On 6/25/11 3:47 PM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: All the cards on the LSI website that I can find using the SAS2008 chipset include the sentence Integrated RAID avoids additional host CPU overhead in their brief description, even the ones labeled HBA. There are two different firmware options. The IT firmware disables the integrated RAID and makes them true HBAs; the IR firmware activates the integrated RAID. Buy the cards, flash 'em with the IT firmware and you're good to go. -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com There are two novels that can change a bookish 14-year-old's life: _The Lord of the Rings_ and _Atlas Shrugged_. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. --John Rogers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Point me to resource or user info
and the Freebsd installer guide http://www.a1poweruser.com/ Hmmm... Wish I'd known about that a while back. It's more or less exactly what I've been looking for, a realy good how to guide for F'BSD. The only thing missing (had a quick look!) is details on Jails (they are mentioned, but you are pointed back at the Handbook..) However.. I've learnt something else already (Using mouse copy/paste function) so thanks very much for that site. Very good for us less (in F'BSD at least) experienced types. Cheers.. DaveB ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Auto Reply: Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD?
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Re: Strange memory reading (hardware)
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:09:30 -0500 Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: It's quite simple really, it's another hidden tax - Redistribution of RAM. You see, even with all the entitlement programs poor people can't afford more than 512MB of RAM. As you are certainly aware that's not enough to watch YouTube and Hulu on their government funded (tax payer funded) ultra high speed internet connections. So, the government has taken some of your RAM (as you obviously can afford to buy more if needed) and will give it to those who really NEED it - so while they sit around collecting government aid (tax payer earnings) their streaming video's will play smoothly. What! I didn't even vote for those guys. :-) Woa - I guess I digressed a bit... Ummm, sorry - I don't know why this would be. Is there some memory mapped video (or disk controller?) stealing RAM? I guess I wasn't clear. Only 2752 MB is show during POST instead 0f 4096. It has always shown 4096 on this MB. Thanks for lighting up my day with the above humor. :-) Robert What does Memtest86 show, if you try running that? I've had issues in the past where one stick has a single bad bit (in a 512M stick) that caused all sorts of strange things with the BIOS, but not the OS!.. Memtest86 (eventually) found it, testing 1 stick at a time in each of 4 slots. Took ages... DaveB ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Auto Reply: Re: free sco unix
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Re: ftp installation
On 12 Jun 2011 at 4:32, Bill Tillman wrote: From: Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org Subject: Re: ftp installation On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: I have tried many of the ftp sites enumerated in sysinstall, with both 7.4-RELEASE and 8.2-RELEASE, and in all cases the installation proceeds for a few seconds and then hangs, with the last message on the console always being: DEBUG: Generating /etc/fstab file. ... Is there something off about the sysinstall ftp dialog? I don't see a way to monitor what is happening. Your firewall may be interfering with the connection. You may want to read the handbook section on FTP installs (the grey box at the bottom of the page): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-me dia.html Well, our router has never interfered with ftp transfers done from the command line, but switching to the firewall-friendly mode in sysinstall does fix the problem. Thank you Daniel Feenberg NBER If I recall correctly I had to open up my firewall completely to get the ftp installations to work. I use a FreeBSD diskless router running IPFW+NATD and the log files are set to max out at 5 so I can't see which port is trying to be used which gets blocked. So just for the 10 minutes or so to do an FTP install I just open the firewall wide and allow any to any. Once the install is complete I close the firewall again. That's why Passive (or PASV) mode is included in FTP. It only ever makes outgoing connections from a client. 99.9% of all routers/firewalls will honour that mode with no probems, unless it's been specifically blocked by an admin type somewhere. In the F'BSD install/update settings/dialogs etc, always select the option to use FTP from behind a firewall or router, or Firewall Friendly mode. That will invoke Passive mode transfers. It's the one thing I can do reliably with FreeBSD, no need to mess with router/firewall permissions etc. That only needs doing if you want to run a server that is reachable from outside your LAN. That in turn, opens a whole oil drum load (i.e. a big can of worms!) of potential security issues Take care. DaveB PS: Worth looking at, for a good, if lenghty explanation. http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?
On 7 Jun 2011 at 21:03, Jack Raats wrote: - Original Message - Hi All. Total frustration here. Before I incinerate the luckless box and get my coat. For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how Exactly to create and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD V8.x First compile the complete system. (kernel and world) Then install ezjail form the ports Then edit ezjail.conf in /usr/local/etc enable ezjail in /etc/rc.conf Then creating the base system: ezjail-admin update -i ezjail-admin update -P after this you can create a jail using: ezjail-admin create hostname.domain.net ip_address_of_jail you can logon to your jail using: ezjail-admin console hostname.domain.net It's quite easy Grtz Jack The problem is Jack, that build / make etc don't run. Just saying compile the complete system is not much help, when as others have pointed out, part of the needed source collection is (was) missing. Re: It's quite easy. Only when you know how! Dave B ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?
On 7 Jun 2011 at 12:10, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Dave wrote: For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how Exactly to create and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD V8.x Did you start with the Handbook? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-build.html Yes, I have been there many times. It must be me, because I do not find it much if any help. Cant see the wood for all the trees or something. Like I said, the handbook is a good Reference, but not a How To. Plus, once I've gone and clicked on a few of the refereal links, it's way too easy to loose the plot, or ones place in the overall scheme of things.. You might also consider sysutils/ezjail; see: http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail [ ... ] I have (aledgedly) downloaded the Sys sources, and Ports. At least it sat there for ages after fumbling arround the sysinstall menu system (whoever designed that should be forced to use it! It's behaviour is apalling, flitting from one context to another with no warning, in a way such that you can't see what you've selected, without affecting the selection, or something else..) Anyway, trying to follow various instructions I found, and those pointed out to me by other helpful souls here (thanks Kaya and Peter.) But Whatever I do, I get a Don't know how to build world. Stop error. I am logged in as root, and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and ports sources.. How do I confirm that, are there trace logs kept somewhere? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports-using.html As Andy and Kaya pointed out, I was missing the Base sources. As at some point, while fighting with the sysinstall menu system, the Base selection got un-selected. I think I have them now, but have not yet re-tried a build or make. Regards, -- -Chuck Thanks. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?
On 7 Jun 2011 at 15:23, Jerry wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:53:13 +0100 Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk articulated: There is at the same time, not enough detailed info as to how to, and way too much detail of what there is. The Man pages are good references, but lousy how to's... (Sorry.) Many knowledgeable people consider man to simple be an acronym for, Much About Nothing. In any case, I assume you have read the documentation @: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html Perhaps you could list a few of the steps you have taken to a achieve your goal. -- Jerry jerry+f...@seibercom.net Hi. I was, as I found later, following this... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-build.html But it failed at step 2, with dont know how to make ... Stop etc... Dave B ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?
On 8 Jun 2011 at 0:53, Julian H. Stacey wrote: and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and ports sources.. How do I confirm that, cd /usr/src make clean ; make cleandir ; make clean # gets rid of obj du -s -k 547684 . cant cd to /usr/src/share/info *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /urs/src. You have new mail. (Contents of the mail is the usual sustem/security stuff) I figure something else is missing, so didn't bother with anything else. Dave B find . -type d -print | wc 47344734 119623 cd /usr/ports du -s -k 477244 . find . -type d -print | wc 31883 31883 704477 are there trace logs kept somewhere? Not that I'm aware of, but I dont use sysinstall beyond minimum installs, (I get my src/ ports/ from my cvs tree which is delivered by ctm from mail) cvs -Q -R export -r RELENG_8_2_0_RELEASE src # du=548 M tgz=115 M cvs -Q -R export -r RELEASE_8_2_0 ports # du=475 M tgz= 49 M cvs -Q -R export -r RELEASE_8_2_0 doc # du=100 M tgz= 27 M Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; indent with ; Cumulative like a play script. Send plain text format; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?
Hi All. Total frustration here. Before I incinerate the luckless box and get my coat. For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how Exactly to create and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD V8.x There is at the same time, not enough detailed info as to how to, and way too much detail of what there is. The Man pages are good references, but lousy how to's... (Sorry.) I have (aledgedly) downloaded the Sys sources, and Ports. At least it sat there for ages after fumbling arround the sysinstall menu system (whoever designed that should be forced to use it! It's behaviour is apalling, flitting from one context to another with no warning, in a way such that you can't see what you've selected, without affecting the selection, or something else..) Anyway, trying to follow various instructions I found, and those pointed out to me by other helpful souls here (thanks Kaya and Peter.) But Whatever I do, I get a Don't know how to build world. Stop error. I am logged in as root, and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and ports sources.. How do I confirm that, are there trace logs kept somewhere? Now, I can create EMC test software in high level languages (Pascal/Delphi on Windows.) Assemble install commission and repair when needed, multi kW RF amplifiers, and related support systems. Diagnose faults on the same, modify control software (at the source level) to work arround some undesirable features etc etc. I've also been building computers (and other tech stuff) for decades from components, and programming them to do what I need etc and so forth, but all in either native asembler code, or a higher level language on Dos or Windows. I even found and followed these instructions, and got a GPS Diciplined NTP server running on the FreeBSD box. (After my ISP comprehensivly wrecked their NTP server access.) So a HF Radio propagation monitor can keep time to sub ms accuracy. That was a first time success too, even re-compiling the kernel to enable PPS support! http://blog.doylenet.net/?p=145 So, I can follow instructions.. :-) I have even got the Meinberg port of NTP to work on an aged Win2k box, albeit with some help from others. But for the life of me, I can't figure out this BSD Jail stuff, as there is something missing from my understanding of it all. (Most of it I suspect...) None of the searches so far have thrown up a definative This is how you do it type of procedure, with step by step do this, if this happens, then do that, else go do this... type of structure. And more importantly *Why* it needs to be done in such a way. Kaya's wiki is close, but I must have a different varient of V8.x Is there anyone out there with Skype (for example) who could perhaps talk me through this it in real time I wonder. By arangment of some mutually conveninent time and date (evening or weekend.) I'm, in the UK near Milton Keynes, so that limits things somewhat I suspect. I realy do want to learn how to do all this, but I'm having a real hard time, due to the lack of contiguious time available to me, and with the available documentation, that I accept is correct, but it is all written as a reference document, not an instruction/user manual, only compounded by coming in cold from another background (Hardware/Dos(Assembler Basic)/Windows(Delphi/Pascal) What I have learnt so far, is that (for the most part) all the BSD's behave and work much the same. Unlike the hoards of different Linux's, all with their different ways of doing things. Spleen vented, anyone want a challenge? I promise not to shout at you... Cheers All.. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error
On 5 Jun 2011 at 16:55, Michael Powell wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: [snip] Power supplies do fail occasionally, and not always in obvious ways such as failing to turn on at all. The output voltages may be a little too high or too low, or they may be correct but with excessive ripple or electrical noise; or the supply may be just fine until a disk draws a current spike to move the arm rapidly. I've seen a fair number or power supplies degrade somewhere around the 5 year mark. Simple voltage checks with a VOM and its accuracy will usually still show the voltages as being correct. To see the ripple you'll need an oscilloscope. Excessive ripple can make a PC appear to have all kinds of intermittent hardware failures with little or no rhyme or reason. A degraded power supply will show large variations in ripple based on load. The largest load from hard drives is when they are first spinning up. Servers are commonly configured with the ability to spin up drives one at a time with a short delay in between. You won't usually find this on a desktop. Generally, this situation will develop more often on an old machine that had a 'barely enough' capacity power supply when new. Add 3 more hard drives, bigger video, etc and it was still just inside the envelope until enough time went by and the power supply got old. Since the most amps pulled by the hard drives occurs on power up you will see the ripple on a 'scope look really ugly while this happens. The unseen danger here is that bits on the drive(s) can get scrambled until things settle down. You will know this happens when stuff goes wrong and fsck is needed to get the file system clean, and after cleaning and working again will do the same thing again at some future reboot. Easiest way to look at this without a 'scope is to simply substitute a known good PSU of sufficient rating from a machine with no troubles. If all the random nonsense suddenly stops, you'll know. This is easiest for folks these days as those without an analog electronics background are unlikely to have an oscilloscope laying around. It might be worth checking the fan mounted on the CPU heatsink if there is one, and the fan in the power supply (which ventilates the case as well as the power supply itself). Aside from the fans themselves, dust buildup plugs heat sinks eventually drastically reducing their ability to get rid of heat. When you get to this stage blowing them out with canned air can work wonders. My 2 servers at home sit on the floor and need this about once a year. -Mike Hi.. I've recently replaced all the 3.3V decoupling caps on a 7 year old Compaq mobo, that was showing all sorts of odd behaviour, more (at first glance) related to the video card. It wasn't expensive, but was time consuming even for me as a skilled electronics tech, with more years of soldering iron time than I care to admit, it took me a good couple of hours! These things aren't made to be easily repaired, but it can be done. In fact, for some common mobo's you can buy complete re-cap kits with all the right parts. Same for all sorts of other consumer electronics. (DVD players, Games consoles, DTV and other set-top boxes etc.) As a result, that box now runs sweet as a nut. Passing all diags with flying colours, even when hot. Any caps that have a bulging top, on the mobo or in the PSU, need changing. Idealy for the same value and voltage. But you can go higher (within reason) in value, but don't go too high in voltage rating, as they can deteriorate if they don't have enough volts, and start to fail early again. Re the PSU thing. Don't get fooled into the common lore that bigger is better. You can have too big a PSU that will fail to regulate the auxilary output lines correctly until you add extra load to it's main output. Many PC supplies (sadly not all) do have a note to that effect on the ratings label. For most Switch Mode supplies, they work best loaded to between half and full power on their main output. Much less than 1/4 of their capability, and the auxilary outputs will start to wander about a bit, especially if the incoming line is a bit high in voltage. Common symptoms are strange audiable noises from CD drives, or hard drives that struggle to start up, but are OK once working. Yes, also keeping things clean and cool is a good move too. Hope that helps someone. Cheers. Dave B. PS: I don't suppose anyone knows a real good simple blow by blow total newby dialog, as to how to realiably and correctly create and setup Jails on FreeBSD 8.0? All the man pages I've found so far, are way over my head. Good Reference material admittedly, but no good as an instructional if you dont already know How To... I don't understand ezjail either... Something to do with the faded grey cell and too many years etc... ___ freebsd-questions
[direct] Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error
recovery and self contained AV disks, and also Memtest86, I carry a copy of Spinrite arround with me too. I just wish I could come up with something as successful, and able to continue selling over and over... As for changing mobo caps, it's not dificult, but it sure takes a lot of time and care. Cap's in PSU's too go bad (Usually the Low Voltage ones) again, not dificult to change, but take care. There's often considerable High Voltage stored in some places, that can bite you, and it hurts! Lastly, large slow running fans last the longest, and are nice and quiet too. Just regularly blow the dust bunnies out of the systems (two or three time a year?) and keep things like the CPU cooler and PSU clean, and your hardware will work for many years just fine. Oh.. CPU coolers. If your system has the ability to monitor the CPU temperature, get to know how that behaves depending on the software you use. If it starts to slowly rise, but the room temperature is not correspondinlgy warmer, also cleaning the dust from the cooler doenst seem to help. It may need the cooler removing, the old heat transfer compound removing and cleaning, and fresh compound using when you refit the cooler. This issues seems worse with the earlier single core P4's, that had a very small contact area to the cooler. At least Intel chips just slow down as they get hotter (cycle skipping) so as not to burn out. Some AMD's will destroy themselves if the cooler fails!...There is a YouTube video somewhere, showing a PC with an Intel CPU with no cooler getting slower and slower till it almost stops. I hope you get things sorted out, one way or another. Life is so much nicer if you don't have to keep messing with the blessed things! I have a sick Land Rover to fix too. Gearbox rear oil seal, also rear drive shaft UJ's. At least I can use big hammers on that sometimes... (Therapy!) Oh, the grass needs cutting, and I'm now also under instruction to change the bed, when the cat's finished sleeping on it!!! Best Regards. Dave B. On 4 Jun 2011 at 21:35, Kaya Saman wrote: Subject:Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error [...] Hmmm Hard drives do not like heat! Check the PSU voltages with a meter, for accuracy and ripple. Failing SMPS's can do all sorts of odd things. Capacitor problems. Been there done that. They can be changed for very low cost, other than your time. DaveB You might guess by know, I know far more about hardware than I do about software, but for the latter to run well, the former must be good. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Many thanks Dave for all the suggestions!!! To be honest I think the drives are fine but the system is just s old including the IDE drives. I mean if I get a SATA/IDE USB adapter I should be able to backup the drives to the new DAS system I will have in place shortly since I am much more in favor of running Nexenta Core 3 OS with ZFS spanning the 16x drives meaning a total of 36TB with 2 internal drives used for logging and caching. Then this system will be obsolete. However, I will keep your suggestion of using spinwrite in mind next time I encounter issues! BTW I respect your H/W knowledge that's quite in deep :-) thank you for your insight. just an observation demon.co.uk :-) used to be my old ISP til I went with Pipex which is now bust, then I moved out of the UK and now everything is roasting hot Best regards, Kaya __ NOD32 6175 (20110602) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error
On 3 Jun 2011 at 15:09, Kaya Saman wrote: Hi, I have an ancient pre-HT PIV machine with 500MB RAM. The system has an extra PCI-SATA card installed so I can make use of modern high capacity drives. Everything was running fine until round about 2 days ago when the system started locking up on me? Current drive configuration for the system is: 40GB IDE drive as root (ad2) - UFS2 500GB IDE drive for storage (ad3) - EXT3 1TB SATA drive for storage (ad4) - UFS2 750GB SATA drive for storage (ad8) - EXT3 I had an issue with the 750GB drive which the file system seemed to have got corrupted so I powered down and backed the information up to a 2TB SATA drive using ddrescue and the Gentoo Linux based System Rescue CD. I put the 2TB drive in place of the 1TB ad4 drive physically. Once backed up I powered down again and re-installed the 1TB SATA drive into ad4 position on system and completely removed the 2TB backup. When booted back into FreeBSD upon boot I received this error: WARNING: Kernel Errors Present ad4: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=4ABORTED LBA=1 ...: 1 Time(s) g_vfs_done():ad4e[WRITE(offset=97691456, length=16384)]error = 5 ...: 1 Time(s) The current status of the disks seemed to be ok though: 1 Time(s): ad2: 38166MBSeagate ST340014A 3.06 at ata1-master UDMA33 1 Time(s): ad2: DMA limited to UDMA33, controller found non-ATA66 cable 1 Time(s): ad3: 476940MBSeagate ST3500630A 3.AAF at ata1-slave UDMA33 1 Time(s): ad3: DMA limited to UDMA33, controller found non-ATA66 cable 1 Time(s): ad4: 953869MBSAMSUNG HD103SJ 1AJ10001 at ata2-master SATA150 1 Time(s): ad8: 715404MBSeagate ST3750640AS 3.AAE at ata4-master SATA150 1 Time(s): agp0:SiS 651 host to AGP bridge on hostb0 1 Time(s): ata0:ATA channel 0 on atapci0 1 Time(s): ata0: [ITHREAD] 1 Time(s): ata1:ATA channel 1 on atapci0 1 Time(s): ata1: [ITHREAD] 1 Time(s): ata2:ATA channel 0 on atapci1 1 Time(s): ata2: [ITHREAD] 1 Time(s): ata3:ATA channel 1 on atapci1 1 Time(s): ata3: [ITHREAD] 1 Time(s): ata4:ATA channel 2 on atapci1 1 Time(s): ata4: [ITHREAD] 1 Time(s): ata5:ATA channel 3 on atapci1 In order to test if the error was due to disk failure I powered down and disconnected the ad4 and ad3 disks and powered back up. The system still seems to be locking on me and I can't understand why? Through Google'ing a discovered a post by Jeremy Chadwick about these kinds of errors: http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ATA_issues_and_troubleshooting however since the system board is pre-SATA is doesn't even have S.M.A.R.T. so I'm totally lost on how to fix this. I mean the best remedy would be to get a new computer and migrate the stored information (something like this is on the way) but currently I don't have access to any of the disks at all and to make matters worse no NTP or DNS server as I was running these services on the same machine or TFTP boot server for my IP phones. - I do run multiboot UNIX on my notebook so Bind9 is naturally installed hence me writing this but I only activate in emergencies. I mean one way I thought of for fixing this would be to grab a USB - ATA/SATA adapter: http://www.startech.com/product/USB2SATAIDE-USB-20-to-IDE-or-SATA-Adap ter-Cable and hook the drives up to both Linux and FreeBSD in my notebook and copy the information across to the new system when it arrives in a few months. Aside from that is there anyway to fix the kernel error quickly? Thanks, Kaya Hmmm... No backups then? First, check the drive data cables. Many do fail with age. Some SATA types are made with Aluminium not copper, and are extremley fragile when they age. If that doenst shed some light... Take a look athttp://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm Will often restore a failling drive to full use, if it's not mechanicaly damaged. It can take time though, if any sector corruption is very bad. Days, weeks, even months have been see in some cases, but if the software keeps going, it usualy does the job. It's not a Windows program, if anyting it's a DOS program, but comes with it's own FreeDOS system to boot and run from, so you don't even need an OS on the machine to test! It will work with IDE or SATA types, even over a USB adapter if needed (but then it can't access any SMART data the drive may have) but it'll run a lot slower as it won't be aware of the drive's detailed physical timing etc. I've used it on WIndows and Linux machines in anger, and the FreeBSD box when I got it (an old Gateway E-1400) to make sure the drive was healthy. It's the hard drive equivalent of Memtest86, and you know how good that is. Even if it doesn't report any problems found, often it will cause the drive to maitain things itself, improving performance as a result. Even if the recovered drive is still less than 100% happy, or some of
Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error
On 4 Jun 2011 at 10:52, Kaya Saman wrote: Many thanks for the response! On 06/04/2011 02:00 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Kaya Samankayasa...@gmail.com wrote: I have an ancient pre-HT PIV machine with500MB RAM. ... Everything was running fine until round about 2 days ago when the system started locking up on me? ... is there anyway to fix the kernel error quickly? Did you apply any updates shortly before it started to fail? No updates! I did however, install unrar through ports. If not, this is likely to be a hardware problem. I'd suggest checking the power supply and the fans, running memtest86, and taking a close look at the electrolytic filter capacitors on the system board -- the last because it sounds as if this system may be about the right age to have been built with some bad ones. (If any of the capacitors are bulging, either those caps, or the entire board, need to be replaced.) Power and heat problems can cause all sorts of strange symptoms. I guess, I mean I did mention that the system was old and also I've been running in 24/7 online for the past year and half as this box got passed down to me by a family member. It has a Gigabyte system board. Not sure about the capacitors; I'll check. I remember on other boards that went on me in the past with capacitor issues, a bunch of orange stuff starts leaking out of them when they blow up. Also the chassis doesn't have any cooling fans either since it was bought extremely cheaply by the family member but not sure that's the culprit neither power problems as the system has run in high outside ambient temps in the past with no A/C in the room and also was working fine on the PSU installed with the 4 disks. I guess it's hardware related somehow as something's blown up, either the PSU, system board or so.. As I explained in the beginning if there's no clear way to fix the problem easily then I'll wait a bit. - I have a 16 disk Promise DAS on the way and will build a server using a Chenbro industrial rack chassis and Supermicro AMD based 8-12 core system board. These systems will fit better in the 2 racks I have in my living room. This should be a bit more stable and also give me higher capacity too! Regards, Kaya Hmmm Hard drives do not like heat! Check the PSU voltages with a meter, for accuracy and ripple. Failing SMPS's can do all sorts of odd things. Capacitor problems. Been there done that. They can be changed for very low cost, other than your time. DaveB You might guess by know, I know far more about hardware than I do about software, but for the latter to run well, the former must be good. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS promote failure
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Pawel Jakub Dawidek p...@freebsd.org wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:50:51AM -0400, Dave Cundiff wrote: Hello, I'm seeing a strange problem trying to use zfs promote. [root@san2]# zfs snapshot san/sr@snap [root@san2]# zfs clone san/sr@snap san/sr5 [root@san2]# zfs promote san/sr5 cannot promote 'san/sr5': dataset is busy Being a freshly created dataset I'm not sure how it would be busy. Are there any caveats to using zfs promote on zvols? The snapshots are of ext3 formatted zvols. I don't really need to promote them but wanted to in case I needed to destroy the source for some reason. Which FreeBSD version is this? I just tried it on 9-CURRENT with ZFSv28 and it works just fine, even if I've file systems mounted on top of those ZVOLs. Hi, I was using 8.1-RELEASE and upgraded to 8.2-RELEASE to make see if it improved. [root@san2 ~]# zpool upgrade This system is currently running ZFS pool version 15. All pools are formatted using this version. [root@san2 ~]# zfs upgrade This system is currently running ZFS filesystem version 4. All filesystems are formatted with the current version. [root@san2 ~]# uname -a FreeBSD san2.a2hosting.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Little more detail. The zvol that is the source of the clone is an image I use for all my filesystems. I was able to create one clone and promote it. However, when I tried to do it a second time I received that error. Can you only have 1 promoted clone per source? I don't really need to promote them. I just wanted to be able to delete the source image once the box was full. If it has a ton of associated clones it'll be stuck there forever. Thanks, -- Dave Cundiff System Administrator A2Hosting, Inc http://www.a2hosting.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board
On 19 May 2011 at 11:59, Chuck Swiger wrote: On May 19, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: It indicates that they put faster RAM into the box, but ran it at a speed of 533MHz, which is slower than the memory is capable of running. In some cases, doing this lets you run the RAM at lower voltage or with tighter timing settings of CL/tRCD/tTP/etc. Thanks, currently I have, well ancient RAM on an old VIA board and it's not really any reliable. That with the flacky disk controller on the VIA board is my reason to go Intel. Yeah, I have one of the VIA EPIA M6000 boards, and the IDE controller gets flaky under load if there is more than one device attached. Disabling the secondary channel on IRQ 15 helped some Regards, -- -Chuck With VIA mobo's any older than about 3 years, check the condition of all the 1000uF/6.3V electrolytic caps scattered about the place. Any bulging, or showning brown crusty stuff (leakage) replace them. Bad power rail decpoupling can cripple a system but present itself as one particular subsystem acting up under specific conditions. They don't fix themselves, they only get worse. Regards. DaveB. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS promote failure
Hello, I'm seeing a strange problem trying to use zfs promote. [root@san2]# zfs snapshot san/sr@snap [root@san2]# zfs clone san/sr@snap san/sr5 [root@san2]# zfs promote san/sr5 cannot promote 'san/sr5': dataset is busy Being a freshly created dataset I'm not sure how it would be busy. Are there any caveats to using zfs promote on zvols? The snapshots are of ext3 formatted zvols. I don't really need to promote them but wanted to in case I needed to destroy the source for some reason. Thanks, -- Dave Cundiff System Administrator A2Hosting, Inc http://www.a2hosting.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Best SATA/SAS controller for ZFS on FreeBSD 8.2 RELEASE?
message repeated 15 times May 11 17:59:58 backbone root: ZFS: vdev I/O failure, zpool=Backbone path= offset= size= error= May 11 18:00:05 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 May 11 18:00:05 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x12 May 11 18:00:05 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 May 11 18:00:08 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 May 11 18:00:08 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x12 May 11 18:00:08 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com If you think bringing a wet noodle to an Amish rake fight makes you 'better armed' for it, then you have a funny understanding of how the universe works. -- Al Iverson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Ongoing JRE support in FreeBSD?
I'm planning on setting up a machine to run a Java server app, and the OS candidates are CentOS or FreeBSD. I'd prefer FreeBSD, for reasons mostly involving ZFS and DTrace, but when I go to http://www.freebsd.org/java I notice that the binaries are certified with 6.x/7.x and the last entry in Newsflash is posted July 10 of 2010. This does not, on the surface, appear to be a vibrant and active project. That said, I see there are packages in the 8.2 RELEASE tree, so there's clearly some kind of work going on. I guess my question is, can I expect FreeBSD to be a solid platform for Java deployment going forward, or am I better off taking the road more traveled and deploying on Linux? -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions It's the only way to make progress. -- Terry Pratchett, _The Truth_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Suddenly lots processes exits signal 11 (core dumped)
I second the idea that this is a RAM issue. Power down, ground yourself, remove and re-seat the RAM and see if the problem goes away. On 04/26/2011 07:35, Mikael Bak wrote: C. P. Ghost wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Mikael Bakm...@inbox.lv wrote: Hi list, I have a system running FreeBSD 7.3. Its main function is running Postfix SMTP server and a few perl based content filters. Nothing exotic really. It has been nicely up and running approx 150 days when it suddenly starts behaving very strange. First I noticed a converter script failing. It is basically a small shell script that converts a quite big file replacing a few words using sed. The output is mostly damaged. Another problem is that lots of processes exits signal 11 (core dumped). And I need to restart them by hand. See dmesg output below. I know I don't give you guys much to go on. I just want to know it it's possible to find out somehow if some hardware is failing and must be changed. My first thought was overheating. But my collegue went to the site and he said the hardware is not hot at all. If you didn't update the OS or the apps, it is almost certainly hardware- related. Probably a bad PSU, or bad RAM. The box doesn't have to overheat when one of those are degraded. Hi, Thanks fot the fast answer! The OS is regularly updated with freebsd-update, but only within 7.3 version. The apps are regularly updated with portmaster. So I can't say nothig's ever changed. But I can only say that this is the only machine I've ever seen behave like this. TIA, Mikael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSHD Strangeness
is your host ip denied by /etc/hosts.allow? On 04/08/2011 12:22, Scott Ballantyne wrote: I've never seen this before, but when ssh'ing to my server today, I got: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed I was able to log in using my vendors KVM access, and didn't see anything particularly odd. I hadn't changed anything. I restarted sshd, but that didn't help. The log files show hundreds of 'login failures' from the script kiddies, but that is typical. Trying again a couple of hours later, and I can ssh just fine. No changes, nothing. Has anyone seen this, or knows what is going on? Thanks Scott -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots
Hello, It seems that www.allbsd.org is down and ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201102 is old. Anyone knows where I can get the FreeBSD snapshots? Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Auto Reply: Re: Recommendations for 3D modelling code for 3D printing?
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Re: Simplest way to deny access to a class C
Check out portsentry perhaps? I used to use it quite a bit. Whenever someone would hit one of a number of defined ports, I'd automatically add a rule denying them in IPFW and also drop their route to a non-existent IP on my class C. On 03/04/11 16:14, Patrick Gibson wrote: fail2ban by default only bans an IP for 10 minutes, and that's configurable. It can also email you anytime it imposes a ban, so one can keep an eye on things at least in the beginning to see if it's causing a problem for legitimate users. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Gary Gattenggat...@waddell.com wrote: Be careful of automated responses. What if someone spoofs IP's of legit users / customers / whatever and your automated response blocks them? Not good. I thought about blockingwell, never mind - might pi$$ someone off and attract unwanted attention... -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Gibson Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:58 PM To: Jorge Biquez Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simplest way to deny access to a class C You might consider mod_security (/usr/ports/www/mod_security) which can be set up to ban hosts based on behaviour or characteristics. Or fail2ban (/usr/ports/security/py-fail2ban) is really great, too, in that it scans whatever logs you want, and can trigger a block in your firewall if enough violating log entries are found within a particular period of time. Everything is totally configurable, and there are plenty of examples that come with it. Patrick On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jorge Biquezjbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Hello all. I am sorry in advance if this question sounds too stupid. I have a small server for personal use of webpages running: 7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0 it is working fine , no problem very stable. I just need to block some IP class C address that are always trying to discover directories or applications under the web server. They do not do and can not do anything since this server has nothing installed but i am tired of seeing in the logs all the intents they do every 2-3 seconds. I have not installed any kind of firewall yet. What do you think is the best way to accomplish this task? If possible the easiest one. I do not want to do anything else but just bloc IP's, at this moment at least. Thanks in advance. Jorge Biquez ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?
I like bacula, I've used it for years. I also like this command Julian once taught me: find . -name | cpio -pdmluv /destination/folder/here On 02/17/11 18:25, Xn Nooby wrote: Wow, that article is just what I was looking for! I will check out your other articles too. Thanks! On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Warren Blockwbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Xn Nooby wrote: I downloaded the alternative testing ubuntu-based version of Clonezilla, and it appeared to backup my FreeBSD machine. It identified my filesystem as UFS. I will wipe the drive and try a restore later tonight. It said it was backing up 30GB of files, which seemed odd for a fresh install. The backup was 7.5GB. There is a lot of good info in this thread, so I will be experimenting with the various methods discussed. It sounds like I really need to learn about dump/restore. Pardon if I've mentioned this already, but I have an article called Backup Options For FreeBSD at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html It covers variations of dump/restore, and also mentions Clonezilla and dd and their advantages and disadvantages. Feedback welcome. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD and SSD drives
On 11 Feb 2011 at 13:33, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Ignoring the TRIM issue for a moment . . . You're probably best off saving SSD storage for cases where you have lots of reads and little to no write activity, unless you enjoy buying new SSDs a lot. Actually, let's not ignore TRIM; the work-around for lack of TRIM support on some drives is a garbage collection routine that exacerbates the problem of having to replace your SSDs more often if you do a lot of writes. I guess I would only use SSDs on servers in the same cases where I would let myself be talked into using MySQL -- cases where you just treat it pretty much like a read-only data store, and do not have to (safely) add or change data stored there most of the time. Modern SSD's can do a *lot* of writes, wear-leveling and other tecniques allow SSD's to be implemented for nearly any workload. There's a great deal of literature and facts on this topic if someone was motivated enough to research it. Some legends are better off fading away. http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html Same thing is sort of true with TRIM, on most modern drives lack of OS TRIM support isn't the performance hit it used to be although still desirable. -- Adam Vande More Define a *lot*. If you look up the spec's on the common (currently) available SSD systems, it's only in the 10's of 1000's writes. Pittiful compared to magnetic media. The way they work too, if you write one sector you actualy re-write a much larger block of memory. Wear leveling, not that common with SSD Hard Drives, but very common with USB (Flash) memory sticks, only goes so far. SSD's have a place, but not for things like swapfiles or working data that changes a lot.. Regards. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: shutdown computer after the halt command
Allow me to split hairs here. I was taught sync;sync;sync;halt. One for the father, one for the son, one for the holy spirit. This, of course, in the days when I/O was slow enough that sync didn't have time to finish before the halt, so doing it three times ensured your file system shut down cleanly. Dave On 02/07/11 17:38, Devin Teske wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:26 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Devin Teskedte...@vicor.com wrote: There's no technical reason to avoid using halt directly other than the fact that shutdown sends a message to connected users while halt does not. -- Devin P.S. I welcome the rebuttle as a learning experience if the above is not 100% accurate and true (but be-warned... I went around the office polling _really_ old UNIX hands before making the above statement). I used to believe that until I was shown I was wrong. The easiest way to see you're wrong is to drop to ttyv0 then do one of each like a reboot then a shutdown -r now. In the latter case, you'll notice /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ stop scripts being processed but not so in the former. In both types of shutdowns, everything *should* exit cleanly but processes are terminated with different signals and certain types of applications really need the full rc stop script to end cleanly like HAST and CARP for example. shutdown -r/p is a really good habit to form. FWIW, someone also stated reboot on Linux behaves like shutdown -r now so that I sure contributes to the confusion. Thank you very much for the explanation! Yes, I (we) had completely forgotten about the shutdown scripts. Of course, many of us still remember the days when it standard fare to sync; sync; halt. -- Devin -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Swap Space
On 01/05/11 15:20, Gary Gatten wrote: I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON processors and 6GB RAM. What is the recommended swap space? I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, others say stay with 2 x RAM. Definitely not 0, but 2x would probably be way too much IMO. 4 - 6 GB should be enough for most use cases. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap file if necessary? font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org yep man swapon though this won't be as elegant as having it set up as normal swap -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) da...@vicor.com david.robi...@fisglobal.com _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: disyfiles
On 30 Dec 2010 at 18:17, wayne mitchell wrote: hey i have a freeBSD 8.1 RELEASE system working off-line and a windows b'band connection my b'band connection has downloads limits i would like to get a hold of all 'relevant' distilfes - the current size of the complete distfiles tree is 140GB i have cottoned onto the idea of having somebody copy the entire tree onto HDD and posting it over if there is a department that is able to do this or you have any other ideas for a solution do let me know happy to pay a few bucks - though i am not pro - just for hobbies thanks Hi. You can also order CD's and DVD's for not much $'s. Much less chance of them getting bust in the post. Also, (though expensive) 100G+ USB memory sticks are available, and would cost much less to post than even CD/DVD's I suspect. What's the limit on your web connection, and over what sort of period, and/or, is there a time of day throttling/limiting? You could always schedule downloads to happen duing the quiet time. Lastly, if another ISP service is available in your area, consider a change of ISP to one who doenst apply such restrictive limits. But talk to them first and get an agreement in writing before committing, if that is viable of course. I've done two F'BSD V8.x installs over FTP in the not too distant past. That only downloads what is needed to get things up and running, and can get more stuff as needed, when it's needed. OK, not as painless as having it all on a DVD locally, but it does work. You do need to download the bootable Network install CD first though. Is that how you started? Best Regards. Dave B. (In the UK) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Well, I broke it! FreeBSD V8.1 release
On 22 Dec 2010 at 9:49, Chris Brennan wrote: IIRC ';' isn't a valid bash comment ... (which has been previously discussed elsewhere). It's usually safer to use '#' for comment in /etc/rc.conf and other system config files as they typically use BASH style structs. Accepted and acknowledged as my finger trouble. As earlier, that issue is now fixed. Thanks. Dave B. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Well, I broke it! FreeBSD V8.1 release
Hi... I was trying to disable the console screensaver, and found that in sysinstall, there is no way to select none as an option. So I went and edited /etc/rc.conf to comment out the line:- Saver=fire (or whatever it is) I put a ; at the beginning of the line, and now FreeBSD wont come up, showing an error (unexpected ;) and leaving me with a # prompt. How do I get to re-edit rc.conf, to correct the problem, as all command line commands result in a not found error. Also. What's the Correct way to disable a console screensaver? Sysinstall alows you to select and enable one, but not remove it! Bit of an oversight that I suspect Regards. Dave B. (Chief numpty!) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
