On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:47:44AM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote:
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa
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Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 00:23 -0700 schrieb Gary Kline:
In any case, there are
two questions for this list.
The first
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:48:52AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:36:25 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
tHat said: how can I experiment with translating my html into
slideshow format? If this is a case of RTFM, where is the FM
page website
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 04:38:06AM -0400, John Nielsen wrote:
On Friday 24 April 2009, Gary Kline wrote:
This ought to help if I ever find a free speech synthesizer.
I found one yesterday that must be a real human voice;
unfortunately, commercial.
audio/festival in the ports
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 04:20:45PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote:
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:48:52AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:36:25 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
[[[ ... ]]]
I've
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:08:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:18:43 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
yes, the voices [from audio/festival] are pretty good; i use
them to read boring stuff
to me when i'm about brain-dead! but these voices just
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 07:47:04AM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:18:43 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
yes, the voices [from audio/festival] are pretty good; i use
them to read
into
complexity theory! so maybe in another 50-75 years... .
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Folks,
This is exacrtly a FreeBSD question [for a change]. I read on
another list that the Opera broswer has a builtin speech option
and am wondering in our port/pkg/version has this capability.
Anybody know off hand?
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On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 06:27:46PM -0500, Rod Person wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:16:41 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Folks,
This is exacrtly a FreeBSD question [for a change]. I read on
another list that the Opera broswer has a builtin speech option
, is the
rational to do nothing.
As a first cut, is there somebody on the kernel side I should check
with to see about adding a click driver?
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On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:01:31PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:47:49 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
If someone in the kernel-side would work with me and add the
Audio click, I will look at some of the netbooks to see how
usable they are.
One
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:53:43PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
solution. The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.
I am thinking
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
at first I'm lookings for a cots (commericial, off-the-shelf)
solution. The XO has stereo speakers and so do the notebooks.
I
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 02:43:56AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
Nothing tactile, and because neither Linux nor BSD has an audio
click, not even that. Sun does have a command line
It should. The X window system provides
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 09:36:14AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
The short answer [Guess] is no, I dont think so. If getting the
keys to have an auditory feedback with beeps or shorter clicks were
that easy, it would have been done after 15 years. Even Linux
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:14:46PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
What I've got to do is pick up where I kwit ten years ago with the
kernel driver code and drop the the code to make the speaker-audio
create tiny
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:37:13 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
wrote
ennepe, Mousa, ...
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On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 03:07:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:10:45AM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri
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On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 07:54:02PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:07:34 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 01:19:49AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:23:22 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
[..]
Wow; the stuff I've never
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 03:18:51AM -0500, b. f. wrote:
On 12/27/09, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 02:11:55AM -0500, b. f. wrote:
A BEL-per-key drove me beyond the limits back in '99; that isn't
the answer, but to key a truncated bell, a click
stuff
that I started hacking on in 1996; gave it up after six months.
Bottom line is that my text-to-speech app should be usable from
a cheap notebook without X to a clunky ThinkPad with/without X.
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almost nothing about audio, i figued audacity might serve better than sox.
tia,
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PS: I ran into much the same undefined reference to 'shmctl' on ethic
while doing a portupgrade. Might here on both platforms.
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My new server is back out of harm's way, but now, upon reboot, no mail.
I have
tail -f maillog and get Domain not found
Yes, i did edit my DNS files, but I think i have a backup. Can anybody
clue me
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, 0xff, 0xff, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xf8, 0x1f, 0xf8, 0x1f};
Are there tools to do the same with a .au or .wav file?
tia,
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-question on this coming up ... .
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On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:10:15AM -0800, Jon Radel wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
My new server is back out of harm's way, but now, upon reboot, no
mail. I have tail -f maillog and get Domain not found
Yes, i did edit my DNS files, but I think i have a backup. Can
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 01:52:07PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
In working toward my goal of writing a keyboard driver with builtin
clicks, I'm investigating different angles. One would be to find
existing audio files and catting then thru
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 09:44:33PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:11:17PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
Yeah, I views the file with od -c; but wouldn't it be much faster
to have the data file part of my test program than having to open,
read, cat thru /dev
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:48:07PM -0800, Jon Radel wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
It was a good lesson that I should NOT have ever dared to mess
around with IPv6 ... but I did. And yup, after moving the server
everything restarted. And that v6 stuff busted things.
H
to everybody, happy new years.
hoping that 2010 is [much] better year.
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 23:41:00 -0800
From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
Subject: Re: Openoffice3 and aspell
To: Neil Short nesh...@yahoo.com
Cc: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
The main
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 01:09:31AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
About an hour ago things started working, and this time I made
notes. ((__NOTE__: The thesaurus stuff is 28.0MB and harder to
retrieve; I'll try later.))
Here is a cut and paste of my notes on getting
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of these distros.
Good one!
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... .
I've used acroread for years, especially when they are long and
dreary essays. Does the speech part of this reader work, and if
so, what is the magic? I keep getting lost in click-land!
thanks for any clues, guys,
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this seem plausible:
#
## ipv6 config
#
# ipv6_enable=YES
# ipv6_defaultrouter=2002:d1b4:d5d2::
# ipv6_default_interface=em0
# ipv6_gateway_enable=YES
given that my Adress record is 209.180.213.210 ?
tia, gents,
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On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 10:56:31AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
This caught my interest this morning so I set up a commented-out trial in
/etc/rc.d for my ipv6 entry; the one I had in my database /etc/namedb/*
files
blew my connection sky-high recently.
Does
Dell server. The long and
the short of it is: can I take advantage of having two 'Net
connections, and if so, how?
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The 7.79a
ping me sometime mid-afternoon, 12jan10, you know what's
happened. OTOH, maybe after all these years, somebody fixed things and I'll be
all right -g
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On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:19:19AM -0500, Jon Radel wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
according to him, on each one copper circuit, there were two unused wires
that
could be used for a second phone number. so that afternoon I had a dialup
line
and the house had a voice line.
Or more
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:59:34PM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010, Jon Radel wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
...
Hif you're doing the standard thing, and porting your phone
number to the cable company, they'll have to put some equipment of their
own on or in your
it's the 12th and my link thru qwest is still up. for now. maybe the tech
from comcast saw how things were wired and fixed it. maybe he is a laid ofif
ph.d. philosophy prof never know , given the economy.
anyhow, I hope things still work over the next several days...
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On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 18:11 -0500, Jim wrote:
Yeah, that might work. I had troubles with aliases and the database
and it didn't resolve itself until I ran newaliases. But newaliases
is
just a symlink to /usr/sbin/mailwrapper. It calls
/etc/mail/mail.conf
data before closing the FILE *FP. Not
sure; just guessing.
Anybody??
tia,
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 08:37:46PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
I have a couple short programs where I mess with /dev/dsp. I'll open
check to be sure the speed is right, open in mono or stereo, c. is
there anything is ports that uses this dev by opening
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:57:17AM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jan 13), Gary Kline said:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 08:37:46PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
I have a couple short programs where I mess with /dev/dsp. I'll
open check
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 03:19:47PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jan 14), Gary Kline said:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:57:17AM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jan 13), Gary Kline said:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 08:37:46PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote:
Gary
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 05:08:25PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jan 14), Gary Kline said:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 03:19:47PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
The sox port comes with its own play command that can parse many
containers and encodings, including wav files.
I did
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 04:13:51PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 05:08:25PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jan 14), Gary Kline said:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 03:19:47PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
The sox port comes with its own play command that can parse
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:12:17AM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jan 14), Gary Kline said:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 05:08:25PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
[[ ... ]]
sox myfile.wav -b 16 -e signed -r 22050 -c 2 myfile.raw
will convert the wav file (whatever
]
tia,
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On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:27:59AM +, Mike Clarke wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
this may be offtopic but it does deal with our OO.org port.
a friend sent me a very nice slideshow in powerpoint format. I've
saved it (and the original) somewhere
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:41:16AM +, Mike Clarke wrote:
On Sunday 17 January 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:27:59AM +, Mike Clarke wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
[snip]
Second q is howto use them for my desktop
scrippt or a C
program.
I do not have it anywhere in my C files.
gary
PS: no, I am not sloshed [*hic*]
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 07:34:29PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
I'm going round, round and round. chasing my tail trying to piece to
gether a simple [ha!] test program that uses curses. Anybody out there
who know how to fix an output cursor move()ment? Please write me
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:21:36PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:34:29 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
this is going to sound a bit off the wall, and it may have only worked
in FBSD [if I wasn't imagining it], but is there a way to get
when I do a make install clean in net-im/pidgin I constantly get rejects about
the datestamp being wrong and the file is not retrieved. any help will be
greatly appreciated.
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] Error 2
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox35.
r...@tao:/usr/ports/www/firefox35#
I have looked for this library to rebuild it; can't find. Anybody know
what's going on?
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:19:29PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:07:00 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
I have looked for this library to rebuild it; can't find. Anybody know
what's going on?
Port: nspr-4.6.7
Path: /usr/ports/devel/nspr
Info
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 04:30:36PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
guys,
after days and weeks of portupgrading firefox35 is one of the two that
still fail to build. both get wedged on
/usr/local/lib/libspr4.so; can anybody tell me how
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 02:15:57AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:14:30 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Thanks muchly. I'd like to know which pkg_* utility you used to find
which port builds what. if there is one!
There is, but I did it the old
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On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:05:39AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:33:09 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
surprised how many things depend on that nspr... wow.
It seems to be because many other things depend on Netscape
(or the corresponding HTML renderer
, my house, my family
umpteen times and i'm waaay overdue to return the favors. i have no
idea how much work having a web page will get him, but it's
certainly worth a try.
thanks, guys,
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documentation (mentioned in the above file) is also helpful.
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is there such a converter that sends m$ Works [.wps] to odt?
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On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 09:20:50AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote:
On Tue 2010-02-02 12:44:41 UTC-0800, Gary Kline (kl...@thought.org) wrote:
is there such a converter that sends m$ Works [.wps] to odt?
AbiWord.
And a quick-and-dirty shell script to convert all .wps (Microsoft
Works) word
Is there a way of streaming stuff like old tv shows, the
bbc-player, and pbs steams on the freebsd version of firefox35?
thought i'd give it a last try since everything is upgraded on
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displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols that could be
moused around,
Been looking for hours; can't find. thanks for any clues,
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On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 07:11 -0600, Jason Aubrey wrote:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:23 AM, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote:
Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch
of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking
about a program to solve; just display. And i
done this before!
thanks, gents.
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links i
want to save but i chose those links, rarely, from the Location menu.
i just clicked on the Location - Open with firefox3 dropdown. On FF, I
can click on various links and actually go there. {{ sometimes a reboot
fixes this save-page problem; not this time. }}
anybody?
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10:38AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
Guys,
this has happened once before with kde Konqueror; but i can't remember
where/what i clicked. maybe somebody onlist can help me. When i click on
a link on Konq, a popup / dialog displays asking where i want to save
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 04:38:54AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10:38AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
[... long line snip ...]
I just tried again and now Konq did send me to the hyperlink...
Was i hallucinating? dunno
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:34:45AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 04:38:54AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:10:38AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
[... long line
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:32:29AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
[...]
If you look is /usr/ports/audio you will find the festival
ports.
2 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel512 Jan 25 20:13 festival
2 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel512 Jan
[jpg, mov, avi]?
Or does this depend on the camera or associated hardware?
There isn't much in ports; or it may be that I'm just not
searching on the right keywords.
tia,
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usually], and my editing is extremely slow.
So what renice value should i use [normally]? Another
question is for if i ever decide to cron portupgrade every
week or so. What nice values is best?
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:43:58AM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Feb 21), Gary Kline said:
Excuse me, butthis IS a stupid question. I've tried to figure it out
logically and by experimentation; just want to see if my findings jib with
the unix wizards onlist.
Now
: package 'diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_7' is required by these other
packages
and may not be deinstalled:
apache-ant-1.7.1
freemind-0.8.1_1,1
swt-3.5.1
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:56:18PM +0100, Torgeir Hoffmann wrote:
Hi Gary,
On 23 February 2010 23:28, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Some years ago I thought that future java tools would have
BSD ports that did not demand that we fetch them ourselves?
Now
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 07:29:22PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
Still cannot find the Latest tzupdater; it's like 90 links to
find the bloody thing. Aaarrrgh.
cd /usr/ports/java/jdk16
make config
turn off TZUPDATE
Thanks very much
installed
pkg_add: 1 package addition(s) failed
r...@tao:/usr/local#
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http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org
The 7.79a release
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:47:03PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Feb 25), Gary Kline said:
I d'loaded and built the latest Version of OOo on my new dual core server,
then scp'd it over, stuck it in /usr/local , and tried to install the
3.2.0 version with pkg_add. (I tried
the f10 version of this stuff or other
workarounds?
thanks, gents,
gary
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The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 08:38:12PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
I'm trying to ge t stuff to stream as on my ubuntu laptop.
Following the Handbook, the f10 emulator fails::
r...@tao:/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10# ki
=== linux_base-f10-10_2
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 03:49:27AM +, RW wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:58:49 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
I'm trying to ge t stuff to stream as on my ubuntu laptop.
Following the Handbook, the f10 emulator fails::
r...@tao:/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10# ki
, but is there any way i can import my mail addresses
from evo or kmail or mutt and mail the test or wordprocssor
file that way?
gary
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should I be
looking for to replace the 8200.
thanks for any suggestions.
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On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:11:54PM -1000, Al Plant wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
Well, first time this happened since I got my Dell 8200.
It suddenly died. I just finished sending an email a few
minutes earlier. I'm writing from my only other live
non-server. The KVM switch was mis-installed
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:23:30AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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On 10/03/2010 03:34:52, Gary Kline wrote:
Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a
power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a
long day... . }
Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing
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