Re: Mac osX drivers

2008-03-24 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi

Mac OS X uses a different driver model, I/O kit. It's based on the XNU
kernel (BSD/Mach).

http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/arch_xnu.html

Cheers, Oliver



Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know I keep asking about drivers, but what about Mac drivers? I
 understand that Mac osX is based fairly well on BSD, so would the
 drivers be portable?
 
 This is all on a current project I'm working on...
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: Very bad performance when using battery on my laptop with FB7

2008-03-23 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi

just a shoot into the dark, but did you set debug.cpufreq.lowest=1000 in
/etc/sysctl.conf? 1000 MHz is the lowest (usable) frequency of my
laptop.

Cheers,

Olier

Kemian Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I have a Compaq laptop running FB7 stable.
 When I use battery, the system becomes very slow, there are even lag
 of the cursor.
 The load average would be 1 - 2, while the idle CPU is 99.0%.
 It would not change even I plug the ac power later.
 
 But if I reboot the machine whit ac power, everything would be OK.
 
 Any idea appreciated for what should I do to solve this ...
 
 Best wishes,
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Re: xpdf segmentation fault on FreeBSD 7.0 Release

2008-03-12 Thread Oliver Herold
No, I'm using it without any problems. Maybe you have some strange
configuration in /etc/make.conf?

Cheers,

Oliver

Kemian Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, all,
 
 I have installed xpdf 3.02 on a FreeBSD 7.0 Release Box without
 problem, I can use xpdf -h to get the help information, But when
 ever I just use xpdf or xpdf some.pdf, it will give a
 segmentation fault and without any other note.
 Is there any one have met such things and please suggest me how can I solve 
 it?
 
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Re: the best network card for freebsd 7.0

2008-03-04 Thread Oliver Herold
Usually Intel nics are a good choice.

Oliver

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 i wanna ask about the good network card for freebsd 7.0
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Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Oliver Herold
Maybe the same hardware performes _sometimes_ better in Linux. It
differs from kernel release to kernel release and of course from distro
to distro. So 'better' is sometimes just _different_.

--Oliver

Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29/02/2008, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sam Leffler
   Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:54 AM
   To: Ted Mittelstaedt
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kris Kennaway; Oliver Herold;
   freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7
  
  
   Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM
To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7
   
   
Oliver Herold wrote:
   
Hi,
   
I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago,
   
http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/OStest.html
   
is this true for FreeBSD 7 (current state: RELENG_7/7.0R) too? Or is
this something verified only for the state of development
   back in August
2007?
   
I have been trying to replicate this.  ISC have kindly given me access
to their test data but I am seeing Linux performing much slower than
FreeBSD with the same ISC workload.
   
   
   
Kris,
   
  Every couple years we go through this with ISC.  They come out with
a new version of BIND then claim that nothing other than Linux can
run it well.  I've seen this nonsense before and it's tiresome.
   
Incidentally, the query tool they used, queryperf, has been changed
to dnsperf.  Someone needs to look at that port -
   /usr/ports/dns/dnsperf -
as it has a build depend of bind9 - well bind 9.3.4 is part of
   6.3-RELEASE
and I was rather irked when I ran the dnsperf port maker and the
maker stupidly began the process of downloading and building the
same version of BIND that I was already running on my server.
   
   
* I am trying to understand what is different about the ISC
configuration but have not yet found the cause.
   
   
It's called Anti-FreeBSD bias.  You won't find anything.
   
   
e.g. NSD
(ports/dns/nsd) is a much faster and more scalable DNS server than BIND
(because it is better optimized for the smaller set of features it
supports).
   
   
   
When you make remarks like that it's no wonder ISC is in the business
of slamming FreeBSD.  People used to make the same claims about djbdns
but I noticed over the last few years they don't seem to be doing
that anymore.
   
If nsd is so much better than yank bind out of the base FreeBSD and
replace it with nsd.  Of course that will make more work for me
when I regen our nameservers here since nsd will be the first thing
on the rm list.
   
  
   Please save your rhetoric for some other forum.  The ISC folks have been
   working with us to understand what's going on.
 
  Did anyone try disabling the onboard NIC and put in an Intel
  Pro/1000 in the PCI express slot in the server and retest with
  both Linux and FreeBSD?  As I run Proliants for a living,
  this stuck out to me like a sore thumb.  The onboard NIC
  in the systems they used for the testbed is just shit.  Hell,
  just about anything Broadcom makes is shit.  They even managed
  to screw up the 3c905 ASIC when 3com switched to using them
  as the supplier (from Lucent)( - I've watched those card versions
  panic Linux systems and drop massive packets in FreeBSD,
  when the Lucent-made chipped cards worked fine.
 
   I'm not aware of any
   anit-FreeBSD slams going on; mostly uninformed comments.
  
 
  It's customary in the industry before publishing rather unflattering
  results to call in the team in charge of the unflattering
  product and give them a chance to verify that the tester
  really knew what they were doing.
 
  FreeBSD has got slammed a number of times in the past by
  testers who didn't do this.  In fact as I recall the impetus
  for fixing the
  extended greater than 16MB memory test was due to a
  slam in a trade rag from a tester who didn't bother
  recompiling the FreeBSD kernel to recognize the complete
  amount of ram in the server, and running it up against Linux.
 
  Maybe I am wrong and the ISC team did in fact call you guys
  in before publishing the results - but the wording of
  the entire site (not just the test results) indicated
  they did their testing and informed FreeBSD after the fact.
  after publishing.  Not nice.
 
  Ted
 
 
 A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular
 network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people to
 go out buying expensive intel pro 1000 cards just so they can use the
 operating system properly when I think its reasonable to expect

FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-25 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi,

I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago,

http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/OStest.html

is this true for FreeBSD 7 (current state: RELENG_7/7.0R) too? Or is
this something verified only for the state of development back in August
2007?

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Re: FreeBSD Linux distro

2008-02-22 Thread Oliver Herold
Yes! This is the best answer to this question so far. Just UNIX nothing more :-)


--Oliver

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 by not being linux at all.
 
 FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is
 FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends 
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Re: How to mount usb flash disk on FreeBSD 7.0

2007-11-08 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi

if this is a card reader then it will be most of the time something like

mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb

Just have a look into /dev


Cheers Oliver

On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:13:15PM +0800, Tsetsbold wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am newbie to UNIX and using FreeBSD 7.0 current ,and I cannot mount my 
 USB flash disk. I searched on google but couldn't find anything helpful.
 
 I did this steps.
 
 #mkdir /mnt/usb
 #mount /dev/da0 /mnt/usb
 mount: /dev/da0 : Invalid argument
 
 # mount -t vfat /dev/da0 /mnt/usb
 mount: /dev/da0 : Operation not supported by device
 
 #dmesg
 umass0: USB2.0 Flash Disk, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 on uhub6
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: USB2.0 Flash Disk 5.00 Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device
 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 2028MB (1038592 2048 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 64C)
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE. CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE. CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 
 Now I really don't know what to do? Can anybody advice me what to do?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2-release and azalia sound chipset

2007-11-05 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi,

http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/BINARY_MODULES/

just follow the README.

Cheers, Oliver


On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:51:37PM +0100, Nicolas Letellier wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I  installed 6.2 -release. I have the sound chipset azalia (Intel 82801H HD 
 Audio).
 However, I don't find a module for this chipset. Where I can found it ? How 
 install it ?
 
 Thanks you,
 
 Nicolas
 
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Re: Flashplayer?

2007-10-07 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi

just install Gnash, it doesn't play all of the Flash content, but it will play
all of the Youtube videos.

Cheers, Oliver


On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:26:17AM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote:
 Anyone give me a heads up on what needs to be done to watch YouTube
 videos using Firefox and FreeBSD 6.2?
 
 Rem
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Re: hard drive testing...

2007-10-07 Thread Oliver Herold
Bonnie++ is a benchmark, to actually 'test' your harddrive you should use some
tool of the manufacturer.

Cheers, Oliver


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   Last question for today.  Well,  hopefullly.  Is bonnie++
   the only meeans of testing a hard drive?  I thought thre was
   something you had to put on a floppy to be able to test more
   thoroughly.
   This had been awhile ago... maybe ~5 years.
 
   thanks, people,
 
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Re: linux-flashplugin9 (usable?)

2007-10-03 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi,

you have to use www/nspluginwrapper together with the Linux Flash-plugins, but
Flash9 isn't stable, most of the time you can just play some seconds and then
it crashes. If Youtube is your intention try Gnash instead.

Cheers, Oliver


On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 08:56:23PM +0200, Peo Nilsson wrote:
 Dear list.
 
 Does anyone know how to get the linux flashlayer9 to work ?
 Right now I run the linux flashplayer7.
 
 Linux flashplayer7 is installed according to the handbook:
 
 1) linuxpluginwrapper
 2) linux_base
 3) linux-flashplugin7
 4) placed libmap.conf in /etc/libmap.conf
 4) ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so \
/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/
ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/flashplayer.xpt \
/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/
 
 I tried to install linux-flashplugin9 through the ports but it
 didn't work at all so I got back to 7 again.
 
 I run FreeBSD 6.2-Release with ports up to date.
 
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Re: USB headset

2007-10-01 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi

for my Logitech USB boxes I have to load snd_uaudio first. You have to attach
your USB device *after* you've loaded the driver.

Cheers, Oliver

On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 02:25:08AM +0200, Andreas Davour wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 Anyone know how to use a USB Logitech headset with FreeBSD? I'd like to use 
 Skype/TeamSpeak and have bought a headset with headphones and a mic. When I 
 plug it in I see:
 
 uhid0: Logitech Logitech USB Headset, rev 1.10/10.13, addr 2, iclass 1/1
 
 on the console.
 
 A /dev/uhid0 device also appears but I have no idea what to do with it.
 
 Neither Skype nor TeamSpeak works out of the box so I guess I have some 
 configuring to do, or have I happened upon an area where FreeBSD just isn't 
 supporting what I'm trying to do? Google didn't help much.
 
 As far I understand I have set the recording volume to high, since 'mixer' 
 returns:
 Mixer vol  is currently set to  60:60
 Mixer pcm  is currently set to 100:100
 Mixer speaker  is currently set to  81:81
 Mixer line is currently set to  75:75
 Mixer mic  is currently set to  80:80
 Mixer cd   is currently set to  96:96
 Mixer rec  is currently set to  50:50
 Mixer igainis currently set to  50:50
 Mixer ogainis currently set to  50:50
 Recording source: line
 
 and kmix indicate a non-zero recording volume as well.
 
 Anyone?
 
 uname:
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Re: 6.2 iso images

2007-10-01 Thread Oliver Herold
As far as I know there are just the releases, but there are of course recent
stable and current isos.

Cheers, Oliver

On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 01:25:29PM -0600, hal wrote:
 On freebsd.org the date of the ISO images is
 1-12-2007.  There have been several updates
 since then.  Is there a repository of ISO images
 that are kept current?
 
 hal
 
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Re: Questions on the scheduler

2007-09-29 Thread Oliver Herold
Are there any numbers or technical papers? Just out of curiosity.

Cheers, Oliver

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 06:10:50PM +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 RW wrote:
 
 The FreeBSD response was to make the kernel more SMP friendly with
 finer-grained locking, and to bring-in the ULE scheduler. Dragonfly BSD
 was a fork off 4.x by people who thought a more radical kernel rewrite
 was needed. Their kernel avoids a lot of the locking problems by using
 message queues.
 
 Just to clarify, that was the theory and intention behind Dragonfly, but in 
 practise they have yet to achieve it after 4 years and any benefits of 
 their ideas remain unproven.  Basically they have achieved no performance 
 gains on SMP and have effectively abandoned working on it.
 
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Re: Questions on the scheduler

2007-09-29 Thread Oliver Herold
Thanks :-)

Cheers, Oliver


On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 06:45:20PM +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 Oliver Herold wrote:
 Are there any numbers or technical papers? Just out of curiosity.
 
 I ran a mysql benchmark against Dragonfly-current and FreeBSD 7 on an 
 8-core machine (one of the workloads that FreeBSD now performs very well 
 at) and found 0 scaling on dragonfly.  Their developers confirmed that the 
 kernel is still entirely giant locked (as in FreeBSD 4) so no SMP 
 performance benefits are possible.
 
 The email thread is here:
 
   http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2007-05/msg00134.html
 
 although the linked graph is offline.  The FreeBSD curve was essentially 
 this one (FreeBSD has improved further since then):
 
   http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/scaling.png
 
 with dragonfly a flat line at ~500 tps independent of load.
 
 Kris
 
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Re: Questions on the scheduler

2007-09-29 Thread Oliver Herold
OpenBSD isn't about performance, so it will be most of the time inferior.

http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-kern/2007/09/28/0014.html

Maybe this is of some help. But if compare it to Jeffs FreeBSD/Linux benches it
looks rather strange to me.

Cheers, Oliver

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:08:53PM +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote:
 On 9/29/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oliver Herold wrote:
   Are there any numbers or technical papers? Just out of curiosity.
 
  I ran a mysql benchmark against Dragonfly-current and FreeBSD 7 on an
  8-core machine (one of the workloads that FreeBSD now performs very well
  at) and found 0 scaling on dragonfly.  Their developers confirmed that
  the kernel is still entirely giant locked (as in FreeBSD 4) so no SMP
  performance benefits are possible.
 
  The email thread is here:
 
 http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2007-05/msg00134.html
 
  although the linked graph is offline.  The FreeBSD curve was essentially
  this one (FreeBSD has improved further since then):
 
 http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/scaling.png
 
  with dragonfly a flat line at ~500 tps independent of load.
 
  Kris
 
 How does NetBSD, and OpenBSD scale when it comes to SMP comparing to
 FreeBSD 7.0?
 
 
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Re: Stress testing/burning in HDDs

2007-09-27 Thread Oliver Herold
Maybe with stress?

http://weather.ou.edu/~apw/projects/stress/

/usr/ports/sysutils/stress

Cheers, Oliver


On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 10:43:24AM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote:
 I have an array that has a drive that keeps timing out/failing... So I need
 to replace it. However, I want to stress test/burn in a replacement disk
 first.
 
 What is the best way to do this?
 
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Re: Why is sendmail in the core of FreeBSD?

2007-09-22 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi,

'most people' is a vague term,

http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.200708/mxsurvey.html

if you have a look at this survey, sendmail rules it. So 'most' depends on the
context and a mailinglist isn't of much significance in my opionion.

Cheers,

Oliver

On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:55:51AM +0100, Gabriel Dragffy wrote:
 Just been wondering about this. If you do a standard install of FreeBSD it 
 includes things such as a basic FTP daemon, all the various utilities such 
 as df, ls, etc. SSHD etc. I assum these are all in FreeBSDs core, as 
 developed in the same CVS repo. Having read the mails on this list for 
 several weeks it seems obvious that most people regard Postfix or EXIM to 
 be the best MTAs, so I'm wondering why is sendmail the MTA that is integral 
 to FreeBSD? Wouldn't it be ace to have the default one be Postfix or 
 something?
 
 Regards
 
 Gabe
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Re: How to downgrade from xorg-7.3 to xorg-7.2 ...

2007-09-22 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi

did you start X with startx -- -ignoreABI ? Usually this works like a charm.

Cheers, Oliver

On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 02:50:25PM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Since I recently upgraded to xorg-7.3, I cannot use my laptop because nvidia
 has not yet provided an upgraded driver. I've tried all the recommended
 workarounds for tweaking the xorg.conf file but to no avail.
 
 My question then is: how can I safely downgrade back to xorg-7.2?
 
 Thanks a lot in advance!
 
 -- 
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 Gouda, The Netherlands
 
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Re: flash player

2007-08-26 Thread Oliver Herold
Yes you can diable it with make DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes in the
linux-flashplugin directory.

Cheers

Oliver

On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:53:33AM -0400, Michael S wrote:
 Good day all,
 
 I am trying to install flash 7 from ports, I keep on
 getting this message linux-flashplugin -- critical
 vulnerabilities.
Reference:
 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/b42e8c32-34f6-11dc-9bc9-001921ab2fa4.html
 
 I know that I uninstalled portaudit. Is there a way to
 still install the plugin?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Michael
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Re: Calendar for 7.0-RELEASE

2007-06-29 Thread Oliver Herold
http://www.freebsd.org/releng/

Cheers,

Oliver

On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 01:30:45PM +0200, Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez wrote:
 Hello Folks.
 
 Please, anyone knows when is planned (aprox.) FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE
 will be available?.
 
 Thanks you very much, in advance.
 
 Regards.
 
 Jose.
 
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Re: gimp error

2007-06-24 Thread Oliver Herold
Didn't experience this kind of problem at all. I'm using Gimp in FreeBSD
stable with lot of pictures in 5-7MP.

Cheers, 

Oliver

On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 07:37:57PM +0200, cpghost wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 02:05:49PM -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
   On 6/23/07, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 10:57:10AM -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
 hi,
   i am using gimp 2.2 on fbsd 6.2, i found that gimp crash when I try
   to
 draw a line using tools like brush or pencil, a dot is fine, does
   anybody
 have this trouble?? thanks!!
  
   This is a bug in libX11. A fix was applied to the port at 22 Jun 2007
   02:55:16. I suggest you update your ports tree and rebuild the libX11
   port.
 
   yep! that works!!
 
 Yes, but not entirely. If you open many images in Gimp; you'll
 probably notice that gimp will crash with a 'BadImage'/wire error
 upon closing; esp. the last window. Maybe it's yet another bug
 in x11/libX11? It's sporadic and difficult to reproduce though...
 
 -cpghost.
 
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Re: gimp error

2007-06-23 Thread Oliver Herold

There is an error in libX11, you have to patch this library.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2007-June/004649.html

Cheers,

Oliver

On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 10:59:13AM -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
  On 6/23/07, Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hi,
 i am using gimp 2.2 on fbsd 6.2, i found that gimp crash when I try to
  draw a line using tools like brush or pencil, a dot is fine, does anybody
  have this trouble?? thanks!!
 
 
 
  not knowing if this would help, here is the message:
 
 
  The program 'gimp' received an X Window System error.
  This probably reflects a bug in the program.
  The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
   (Details: serial 40235 error_code 3 request_code 39 minor_code 0)
   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
 
  (script-fu:60767): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: wire_read(): error
 
  and I have removed .gimp-2.2 and re-initiate gimp, still the same..
 
  TFC
 
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Re: nve driver clarifications with 6.2-RELEASE

2007-06-22 Thread Oliver Herold

hint.nve.0.disabled=1 in /boot/device.hints should do the magic.
If have a motherboard with nforce4 (430) chipset, nve isn't even in action,
to use the onboard nic I have to use nfe but I don't need the phy patch.


Cheers,

Oliver

On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 01:04:55PM +0100, Matthew Bloch wrote:
 Hi there, I'm a Linux expert, FreeBSD novice trying to get a FreeBSD
 bootstrap together for our network and am stuck because nForce network
 chips are a pain in the backside :)
 
 I wonder if anyone can confirm what I've found and suggest an easier way
 forward:
 
 Basically I can install 6.2-RELEASE off a CD-ROM in the office but there
 is no nve0 device on this particular Gigabyte m61pm-S2 board - based on
 similar experience with the Linux forcedeth driver, I assume that we
 just need a newer driver.  However I understand that the nve driver is a
 dead-end and that the nfe driver will replace it from 7.0.
 
 So in order to use this on our bootstrap system, I will need to rebuild
 the kernel, taking nve out and compiling nfe (with the relevant PHY
 patch) in.  Is that about the quickest way to fix this?  I'd be very
 interested to know if anyone could suggest a solution that didn't
 involve rebuilding the kernel.
 
 Thanks for any tips...
 
 -- 
 Matthew
 
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