FreeBSD beginner (NetBSD advanced)
i want to go to FreeBSD instead of NetBSD on my i386 machines because of all new features :( introduced in NetBSD after 1.5 mostly crashing softdeps, strange memory/unified disk cache management (large writing to file almost freezes everything) etc. etc. i installed FreeBSD once to do quick performance tests, and at least in disk I/O and fair scheduling it's MUCH better (tested 4.10 and 5.1). my questions: 1) what is Buf and Cache in top exactly? why buf on 96MB machine gets to near 20MB and never goes down? it's almost 1/4 of memory size. 2) can i compile kernel with -march=pentium,pentium[234] -O2 optimization? in NetBSD 2.0 doing -march=pentium produces kernel that doesn't boot at all, just resets. 3) how can i disable compiling, using etc.. all that LKM (KLD) stuff? i really prefer one static kernel. 4) is IPv6 working well? (i mean no crashes etc...) i will get real IPv6 zone allocation soon and want to use it. 5) what is used in FreeBSD for traffic management. NetBSD has altq - please just give me a name i will RTFM. 6) how to turn using serial port as console on i386? my home machine is headless, i'm using X terminals to access it. 7) does FreeBSD support 2 CPUs on i386? sorry if too much questions at once, i would like to move my home machine to FreeBSD tomorrow, test it at real for a month and then (if it will be better than NetBSD for my needs) replace other machines. should i go to 4.10 or better 5.2.1? stability is really important to me. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD beginner (NetBSD advanced)
Wojciech Puchar wrote: i installed FreeBSD once to do quick performance tests, and at least in disk I/O and fair scheduling it's MUCH better (tested 4.10 and 5.1). It's nice to be welcomed by higher performance when you switch OSes. :-) while high performance is always cool, stable performance is even more important under load. I mean if i do 5 things it shouldn't slow down 100 times. in NetBSD especially if you start large file copying whole system slows down terribly. not true with FreeBSD. softdeps in NetBSD is very buggy. putting very high load like deleting huge tree or unpacking it easily triggers DDB with ffs_something panic :( my questions: 1) what is Buf and Cache in top exactly? why buf on 96MB machine gets to near 20MB and never goes down? it's almost 1/4 of memory size. Cache: number of pages used for VM-level disk caching Buf: number of pages used for BIO-level disk caching can you explain more? (or redirect me to URL about it) is all things double-buffered?!! it would be lots of memory traffic. BTW is mfs usable and stable in FreeBSD? and does it make real sense? in NetBSD mfs is terribly unstable. especially large mfs disks easily crash things. 2) can i compile kernel with -march=pentium,pentium[234] -O2 optimization? in NetBSD 2.0 doing -march=pentium produces kernel that doesn't boot at all, just resets. If you want to tune your system, tweaking the options from GENERIC by removing at least: cpu I386_CPU cpu I486_CPU did this. ...will probably result in the greatest improvement, along with disabling WITNESS and such if using -CURRENT. See man tuning. oh - i never did it... Using -march=pentium is likely to be worthwhile (assuming you don't have a with heavy CPU-bound userland binaries i measured 10-25% gain. 386 :-), higher than that may run into problems. Higher optimizations than -O are not supported, although work is underway to fix the remaining code issues (mainly in libalias used by NAT), as I understand. If you want to try -O2, give it a shot, but you might consider using either -Os rather than -O2, or try -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing. why -Os? it makes slower but smaller code? will lower memory traffic/better cache hitting give more gain than it's lost because of slower code. 3) how can i disable compiling, using etc.. all that LKM (KLD) stuff? i really prefer one static kernel. Read the handbook on building the kernel. what i missed? i already built a kernel, found how to disable modules but all kld stuff is still compiled in! yes i can just do rm *.ko but removing kld from kernel would be even nicer. 4) is IPv6 working well? (i mean no crashes etc...) i will get real IPv6 zone allocation soon and want to use it. IPv6 seems to work well, yes. 5) what is used in FreeBSD for traffic management. NetBSD has altq - please just give me a name i will RTFM. If you want to use that, ipf/altq should be available in -CURRENT. Otherwise, ipfw dummynet is another choice. 6) how to turn using serial port as console on i386? my home machine is headless, i'm using X terminals to access it. See the handbook. 7) does FreeBSD support 2 CPUs on i386? Sure. See the SMP section of the kernel config file. should i go to 4.10 or better 5.2.1? stability is really important to me. 4.10, unless there's a feature from -CURRENT that you don't want to live without. i don't think it is unless 4.10 has: 1) multiCPU 2) traffic shaping 3) nat 4) firewalling 5) IPv6 6) tun device i don't think i need anything more ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: 100Mbit/s LAN slow, TX only ~3MB/s (esp. file transfer) -- why?
Thank you all who took time to reply! The problem really seems to be one of the (or maybe even both, even the LinkSys!) NICs in the FreeBSD machines. No wonder, the RealTek card is a cheap piece of crap (around EUR 6), I am going to replace it with something more reliable. Any recommendations? Is there a card with Really Good(TM) driver implementation for FreeBSD? Anything one would use in a production server (we use 3com cards almost exclusively at work, although mostly in Linux servers)? once i've got cheap cards (20PLN=about 4 EUR) and bought 20 of them but i used only in NetBSD. but it seems fast (no problem to do 9MB/s on pentium 166 NFS) got detected like that tlp0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0: ADMtek AN985 Ethernet, pass 1.1 tlp0: interrupting at irq 9 tlp0: Ethernet address 00:0a:cd:05:46:e2 ukphy0 at tlp0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface ukphy0: OUI 0x000749, model 0x0001, rev. 1 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto but it regularly gives tlp0: receive error: CRC error tlp0: receive error: CRC error tlp0: receive error: CRC error while except polluting logs it doesn't harm speed. i don't know if it's switch, NetBSD or something else this is good too (even better) but no more is available for now where i buy. sip0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0: NatSemi DP83815 10/100 Ethernet, rev 00 sip0: interrupting at irq 12 sip0: Ethernet address 00:50:fc:62:24:a6 nsphyter0 at sip0 phy 0: DP83815 10/100 media interface, rev. 1 nsphyter0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD beginner (NetBSD advanced)
I have used a single 256MB mfs on FreeBSD for months without any problem. I was not doing heavy IO on it, it was used in a /tmp fashion and most of the time was swapped out, going down to 8MB resident size at times. does FreeBSD deallocate pages that are unused. NetBSD does not. if you create 100MB file on mfs and delete it, VM size of mfs is still over 100MB. while it will get swapped out it's a kind of nonsense IMHO softdeps in NetBSD is very buggy. putting very high load like deleting huge tree or unpacking it easily triggers DDB with ffs_something panic :( I have the feeling that NetBSD without softdeps performs much better than FreeBSD. I can live without them on NetBSD. i have too. anyway softdeps is big speedup. i tried async and doing sync every 5 seconds. looks good. I think you will miss ALTQ. There is a patch for FreeBSD-4.8 at Kenjiro's page. i read manual page about ipfw yesterday. i think i will not miss :) NikV On Friday 16 July 2004 00:50, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: i installed FreeBSD once to do quick performance tests, and at least in disk I/O and fair scheduling it's MUCH better (tested 4.10 and 5.1). It's nice to be welcomed by higher performance when you switch OSes. :-) while high performance is always cool, stable performance is even more important under load. I mean if i do 5 things it shouldn't slow down 100 times. in NetBSD especially if you start large file copying whole system slows down terribly. not true with FreeBSD. softdeps in NetBSD is very buggy. putting very high load like deleting huge tree or unpacking it easily triggers DDB with ffs_something panic :( my questions: 1) what is Buf and Cache in top exactly? why buf on 96MB machine gets to near 20MB and never goes down? it's almost 1/4 of memory size. Cache: number of pages used for VM-level disk caching Buf: number of pages used for BIO-level disk caching can you explain more? (or redirect me to URL about it) is all things double-buffered?!! it would be lots of memory traffic. BTW is mfs usable and stable in FreeBSD? and does it make real sense? in NetBSD mfs is terribly unstable. especially large mfs disks easily crash things. 2) can i compile kernel with -march=pentium,pentium[234] -O2 optimization? in NetBSD 2.0 doing -march=pentium produces kernel that doesn't boot at all, just resets. If you want to tune your system, tweaking the options from GENERIC by removing at least: cpu I386_CPU cpu I486_CPU did this. ...will probably result in the greatest improvement, along with disabling WITNESS and such if using -CURRENT. See man tuning. oh - i never did it... Using -march=pentium is likely to be worthwhile (assuming you don't have a with heavy CPU-bound userland binaries i measured 10-25% gain. 386 :-), higher than that may run into problems. Higher optimizations than -O are not supported, although work is underway to fix the remaining code issues (mainly in libalias used by NAT), as I understand. If you want to try -O2, give it a shot, but you might consider using either -Os rather than -O2, or try -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing. why -Os? it makes slower but smaller code? will lower memory traffic/better cache hitting give more gain than it's lost because of slower code. 3) how can i disable compiling, using etc.. all that LKM (KLD) stuff? i really prefer one static kernel. Read the handbook on building the kernel. what i missed? i already built a kernel, found how to disable modules but all kld stuff is still compiled in! yes i can just do rm *.ko but removing kld from kernel would be even nicer. 4) is IPv6 working well? (i mean no crashes etc...) i will get real IPv6 zone allocation soon and want to use it. IPv6 seems to work well, yes. 5) what is used in FreeBSD for traffic management. NetBSD has altq - please just give me a name i will RTFM. If you want to use that, ipf/altq should be available in -CURRENT. Otherwise, ipfw dummynet is another choice. 6) how to turn using serial port as console on i386? my home machine is headless, i'm using X terminals to access it. See the handbook. 7) does FreeBSD support 2 CPUs on i386? Sure. See the SMP section of the kernel config file. should i go to 4.10 or better 5.2.1? stability is really important to me. 4.10, unless there's a feature from -CURRENT that you don't want to live without. i don't think it is unless 4.10 has: 1) multiCPU 2) traffic shaping 3) nat 4) firewalling 5) IPv6 6) tun device i don't think i need anything more ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD beginner part2 questions
after receiving lots of support from freebsd-question i completely (almost) moved home machine/server to freebsd. and have question: 1) can userland ppp negotiate deflate with NetBSD pppd on other side? my ppp.conf looks like that: stalka: set log Phase Chat tun set device /dev/cuaa2 disable dns #real speed=8x28800=230400 set speed 28800 set crtscts on set deflate 15 add default hisaddr other side (pppd,NetBSD): /dev/tty04 230400 local crtscts nobsdcomp persist proxyarp noauth passive deflate 15 maxfail 0 ipparam wojtek +ipv6 with more verbose logging ppp in FreeBSD produces such output in logs Jul 17 17:01:57 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent -- Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:00 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:00 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:00 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:00 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:00 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:03 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:03 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:03 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:03 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:03 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:06 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:06 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:06 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:06 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:06 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:09 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:09 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:09 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:09 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:09 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:12 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:12 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:12 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:12 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:12 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:15 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:15 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:15 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 Jul 17 17:02:15 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(4) state = Ack-Rcvd Jul 17 17:02:15 chylonia ppp[1222]: tun0: CCP: MAGNALINK/DEFLATE[4] win 15 but deflate isn't enabled. everything else works what i'm doing wrong? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sio errors
are messages like that normal in logs? Jul 17 19:15:31 chylonia kernel: sio2: 681 more interrupt-level buffer overflows (total 101746) with NetBSD i've got similar too but very very rare, now i'm getting every 10-20 seconds. anyway - ftp speeds doesn't look much slower. chip is 16550A on ISA cards with 8x multiply, used at real 230400 baud. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd clone img cd image
hi all dose anyone know of a way to burn an img image that was created in windows at home i don't have any windows machines anymore isn't windows-created images just normal images+few extra info files? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NetBSD-FreeBSD move: samba problem
i had NetBSD with samba: Information for samba-2.2.8anb5: Comment: SMB/CIFS protocol server suite for UNIX and now have FreeBSD with samba: samba-2.2.8aA free SMB and CIFS client and server for UNIX same versions of samba. i moved smb.conf to /usr/local/etc and started samba under FreeBSD. samba starts smbclient started from host shows like everything is ok. but - from windose i see empty network environment when clicked on Whole network i see message that network can't be browsed etc. etc. in log.nmbd i see: [2004/07/18 12:37:15, 0] nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235) find_response_record: response packet id 21742 received with no matching record. [2004/07/18 12:37:15, 0] nmbd/nmbd_responserecordsdb.c:find_response_record(235) find_response_record: response packet id 21743 received with no matching record. [2004/07/18 12:37:19, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:become_domain_master_stage2(114) * Samba server WOJTEK is now a domain master browser for workgroup DOM on subnet 10.255.245.1 * [2004/07/18 12:37:35, 0] nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:become_local_master_stage2(404) * Samba name server WOJTEK is now a local master browser for workgroup DOM on subnet 10.255.245.1 * smbclient shows: Sharename Type Comment - --- domowy Disk Katalog domowy uzytkownika public Disk Publiczny faxy Disk FAXY odebrane IPC$ IPC IPC Service (wojtek) ADMIN$ Disk IPC Service (wojtek) Server Comment ---- WOJTEK wojtek WorkgroupMaster ---- DOM WOJTEK i can log in with smbclient to any exported disk with password and all works right. but not from windoze. i really can't believe that it can be FreeBSD problem, but i have same config file and same samba version. any ideas? heve is my smb.conf [global] workgroup = DOM character set = ISO8859-2 client code page = 852 bind interfaces only = yes socket address = 10.255.245.1 server string = wojtek netbios name = wojtek hosts allow = 127.0.0.1 10. load printers = no log file = /var/log/samba.%m max log size = 500 security = user encrypt passwords = no domain master = yes local master = yes browseable = yes #socket options = TCP_NODELAY # jak sa jaiies NT to mozan zwiekszyc jak nie am to niepotrzebne os level = 65 [domowy] comment = Katalog domowy uzytkownika browseable = yes writable = yes path = %H [public] comment = Publiczny path = /home/pub read only = no public = yes writable = yes guest ok = no browseable = yes [faxy] comment = FAXY odebrane path = /home/faxy read only = no public = yes writable = yes guest ok = no browseable = yes ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading form 4.2 to 5.x
Brent Bailey writes: The customer is running a file server samba also running apache running FBSD 4.2, he wants to upgrade using cvsup the make buildworld procedure to upgrade to 5.x. why they want an upgrade as 4.2 works fine? smells like windows. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Our package system: Fundamentally Flawed - A Linux User.
a different library name) like it should, pkg_add only gives a warning and an assumption that the install went well. Now, the user goes to run the package and gets a big fat error: libintl.so.X not found. package 0.13 should be compatible with 0.12 or should has name 1.* anyway - in 99.99% times ln -s libintl.so.X libintl.so.Y where Y is required number works :) For a user like myself, this is no problem. I can recognize the error and figure out how to fix it manually. For a user considering switching to FreeBSD from Linux, this is considered a fundamental flaw in our package system and may lead to a very annoying flame war. Can this be fixed? Why hasn't it been fixed? war requires 2 sides to fight. simplest way to avoid is ignore them. no one forces linux user to go to FreeBSD or otherBSD. 2 years ago mostly because linux started the only right solution and to be better than windows i switched to NetBSD. and found that this said to be worse *BSD are actually better. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/etc/make.conf info
where can i find info about possible options in make.conf for ports builder ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Our package system: Fundamentally Flawed - A Linux User.
Well, FWIU, building from source is also the preferred method, as it creates a much better system overall, rather than just installing binaries which have been built on someone else's system. This allows every install to be specifically built for the system on which it's installed. Not only that, but the code in STABLE changes regularly, so it's better to build from the version of the kernel you have and with your own make options. Also, FreeBSD isn't really a desktop OS. I'm not sure if you're being precise with that word, but, although it works very well as a workstation, it's not designed for what many home users do with their desktop systems. You can use big window managers like KDE and Gnome, but it's not necessarily designed for desktop OS and windowslike OS is a big difference. so desktop os doesn't have to mean KDE or gnome, which - except some nice graphics - doesn't have any really useful features. i use fvwm2 and icewm as it gives enough needed without taking lots of cpu power and RAM anyway - good use of FreeBSD (or other unix) is to be a server with graphics terminals (X terminals) connected through ethernet. then it could be managed only in one place by qualified admin, while used by many people. definitely more stable, more easy to use and much cheaper (both hardware and TCO) than hundreds of winputers requiring operator intervention every few days at average. and no chance for end user to break whole system with clicking wrong icon. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetBSD-FreeBSD move: samba problem
thank you for all help. the problem was that windoze got configured by DHCP with netmask 255.255.255.224 (right), while i configured FreeBSD with netmask 255.255.255.0 (wrong). so broadcasts didn't work. today morning i changed it and samba started to work. thank you. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Our package system: Fundamentally Flawed - A Linux User.
though some of the rest of the stuff doesn't matter to me that much. I can also use KMail in any other window manager, but it does tend to be a resource exactly. KDE programs can be used without whole KDE. Well, I've broken a couple of things in learning FreeBSD but managed to fix them. It's not a big deal. That's part of the learning experience. but you won't break whole system not logged as root. that's normal that something gets broken while learning. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/make.conf info
builder Look at the ports(7) man page and the default make.conf (which is /etc/defaults/make.conf under 4.x, and /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf in 5.x, or you can look at it in CVS via http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/examples/etc/make.conf ) that's what i needed. thank you. Otherwise, port specific make flags can be found generally by inspecting the Makefiles for each port, or the Makefiles under i found that but i needed global settings ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sio interrupt level overflows
what's the source of this so very often messages? Jul 19 22:44:17 chylonia kernel: sio2: 9 more interrupt-level buffer overflows (total 279433) ^^ after about 1 day uptime and 200MB traffic through sio at 230400bps (set to 28800 for FreeBSD while it's ISA card with 8x multiply and 16550A chips). how to get rid of them? under high load it makes quite high percentage of packet loss. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows X
following sources will probably yield the richest results: o the freebsd handbook (perhaps the best OS handbook out there): - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html - you also have a copy locally installed at /usr/share/doc/handbook. o the freebsd-questions mailing list archive: - http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ o google o any books you may have purchased. at least in Poland, i would recommend agains buying a book. just waste of money, as they won't give any more information that listed URLs, while some of them can give lot of informational noise - mostly books about Linux. and there's very little literature available on other unices than linux. regarding your question, i would recommend starting off with the handbook section on X: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html note that the handbook only touches upon 3 of the better known window managers/desktop environments. if you're looking for something that won't be too disorienting (say you're coming from windows or mac), try KDE or GNOME. these are full blown desktop enviroments (applications, games, etc) and HUGE installations. i think it is very disorienting, as they try to be windows-like, and like windows it take user away from actual knowledge as it can. if you really wan't to learn unix, stay away of KDE and Gnome (while you may like to use some apps from them). there are scads of other window managers out there and these vary greatly in size and functionality. with a little time and experimentation, you'll eventually find the one that best suits your needs. i recommend you icewm windows manager with icepref configurator for it. good for beginner while fast, small, configurable. And it's actually mostly window manager, without lots of gadgets. about format for mailing list questions: o many people reading and replying here use tools that don't react quite the same way as outlook express. your messages with reach the greatest amount of readers while causing these the least amount of grief, if you 'wrap' your messages at around 75 characters. (either through a setting in i fully agree with this. but i think (not sure) that outlook as most of microsoft products can be configured to behave normally, it's just difficult and usually not well documented. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows X
space, it does slow down the system, and more software means potentially more security vulnerabilities. just having X running doesn't seem to slow down system. only using slow and memory hungry software may do it. but i don't see anything wrong in having X on server if it's used as workstation at the same time. if it's started from XDM you may remove suid so no security risk. -nolisten tcp for X server will turn off listening on TCP port - removing rest of possible security problems. If you decide you must run a GUI because you are unfamiliar with CLI or you just like them better pick one of the lighter weight window managers. Yes, they are boring but you do not need a fancy desktop on a Server. anyway why run X server just to run then Xterm and some commands to configure services? understand wanting to have a cool desktop. KDE is very popular as well as GNOME. You can see screenshots on their respective websites. KDE and GNOME is an attempt to replace/look like windows. quite successful - not only in look, but in memory usage, CPU usage, amount of bugs, and level of unneeded complexity, allowing user ONLY use GUI configs to do something. i think that if someone needs something like windows, windows is best choice. KDE has a cool feature that if set up allows you to pick your window manager on login (mind you this causes KDE and X windows to be running at this is not KDE feature as all, just kdm (xdm replacement). you may use gdm and possibly other xdm replacements to do it, without need to install KDE. The community can correct me if I am wrong but applications built for KDE will run fine on GNOME and vice versa. I think they just may not look as this is not true. most GNOME apps just use GTK2 and run without gnome itself fine. they are NOT dependent on any window manager, as GNOME itself. gimp is an example - i use it with fvwm2. works like any other X app. With KDE apps it's not true. while lot of KDE apps does work without KDE, they actually starts up some daemons taking 20MB RAM to function. this daemons doesn't die by itself after exiting from that apps and take quite amount of CPU time even if you don't do anything, just have app running. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to update freebsd? newbie
i am sorry if this is a stupid question i ask but i am willing to see if someone helps me to understand the freebsd update process, i just came from redhat so forgive me why do you need update while you are newbie. first learn what you have. Unix is not windows (and in last years - not Redhat) - you don't need to have new version ust because it was released. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to send attached files on sendmail with mail tool?
cat file | uuencode tgt_filname | mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] uuencode tgt_filname | mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of cat. less one unneeded piping. subject can be derived from shell script variables if necessary. Do you have to do a uudecode on the receiving end to recover the file? I tried this - sending a pdf file from this FreeBSD system to a Windoze user that gets mail via POP - it didn't work. The filename came through, and it was listed as an attachment, but there was nothing useful in the file. i think windoze just can't decode uuencoded attachments right. it only supports base64 right. metamail will be useful, possibly /usr/local/bin/encode-base64 was installed by package p5-MIME-Base64-2.21 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compilation
I'm sorry, but I just can't do anything in this operating i'm sorry too. system. I mean, finally I've found a library that makes it simple to simply plot a pixel in a window without spending hours looking for a GTK tutorial that will tell so why wasting your time and FreeBSD user's time? come back and write new cool windows app. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Removing FreeBSD
How do remove freebsd from my machine? I want to format the drive to install windows xp. 1) don't post without subject 2) boot any usix from floppy or CD, get to shell and use dd to wipe out beginning of disk with FreeBSD dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=64k count=1 with linux replace ad0 with hda, with NetBSD use rwd0d. 3) install windoze or any OS as with empty drive. PS. i assumed your hard drive is on first IDE channel master. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows X
and start browsing. :) I just installed the newest XFce today, and wow, it's nice. Very fast. I don't compared to KDE - for sure fast. want to give up KMail, but like a lot of other KDE apps, it runs other KDE no problem to run KMail without KDE except it will take lot of CPU too. processes that tend to bog it down in any wm. But it's very quick on XFce, faster even than on IceWM, at least on my machine. It wouldn't matter so much to me, but KMail is by far my favorite GUI email client. If I were a better programmer I'd backwards engineer it without all the hooks into KDE stuff, nice idea. hopefully text-mode pine is fine for me, quick and can be configured to run right programs to view attachment (like xv to view .jpg, gif etc.) but maybe later ... Mozilla starts in less than two seconds without being preloaded. Amazing. Who said Mozilla is slow starting? Not me anymore. slow and fast is relative. to machine and to other programs. it takes 10 seconds on my celeron/300 to load mozilla, while links -g starts in 1 second. I'm glad you posted this, because it reminded me to give XFce a test. IceWM doesn't seem to perform nearly as quickly for me (which is odd), but maybe I don't have it configured correctly. I think I like XFce better anyway ;) strange, or XFce is really so fast. must try. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing FreeBSD
with FreeBSD dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=64k count=1 with linux replace ad0 with hda, with NetBSD use rwd0d. 3) install windoze or any OS as with empty drive. PS. i assumed your hard drive is on first IDE channel master. or just start the xp install. The installer has will ask you if you want to wipe the drive. possibly - i never installed XP. i just answered question how to wipe out FreeBSD (or anything) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cam/passthrough device question
i'm now running generic 5.2.1 kernel (to narrow list of possible sources). i have: atapci0: Intel PIIX4 UDMA33 controller port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ata1: [MPSAFE] and GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc273f560 ad0: 12419MB ST313032A [25232/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: CDRW RICOH CD-R/RW MP7083A at ata1-master PIO4 devfs mounted /dev/ contains /dev/xpt0 so it does have xpt interface. camcontrol devlist -v shows: -su-2.05b# camcontrol devlist -v scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) CD-RW drive isn't shown and of cource cdrecord doesn't see anything too. what i'm doing wrong? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vinum.
drive e device /dev/da5s1e drive f device /dev/da6s1e volume raid10 plex org striped 512k sd length 0 drive a sd length 0 drive b sd length 0 drive c plex org striped 512k sd length 0 drive d sd length 0 drive e sd length 0 drive f I havent done any profiling but it feels a little slow to me. Thought i'd talk to others to see what their using and see if i should restructure my volume. with linear read it will get speed of one drive, linear write - a bit slower (2 writes must be done but in parallel). BUT: with 100 processes reading different things from it it could be up to 6 times faster (actually bit less as it will never get spread evenly) than single drive. writes near 3 times faster. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best virtual server solution?
I've been struggling to find the best virtual server solution based on a FreeBSD 5.2.1 system. I was hoping some members of the list could help me take this decision. I have questions/thoughts regarding vmware/bsd jails: - Vmware - Does it run 5.2.1 nicely ? i think yes. it emulates real PC so it should - Does a Guest OS (FreeBSD) support multiple IPs? it's guest os feature not vmware's. yes. - Does vmware support Xeon CPUs? (not listen in their site) - Is a xual xeon 2.8ghz + 4GB ram enough to run, say, 40 virtual machines using vmware? depends what this machines will do. - Vmware *really* needs a X session to be working? AFAIK yes. not sure vnc may be a fix vmware is bad idea. it's slow and memory consuming (much more that virtual machine memory). jails are right solution. or even better - think well if you REALLY need separated servers. in 99% of cases the answer is no. - Jails - Is there any patch working for multiple jail IPs under 5.2.1-p9 ? AFAIK no. but it will change - What jail management tool do you use? I'm are of jailutils and jailadmin. I'm using jailutils now mainly because of jps, altough I could use jailadmin and create a quick jail ... ps link that would do the same.Plus, jailadmin uses a centralized configuration file which is easier to keep track of. - syslogd will die on the jail startup (using jstart), but if i run it manually it will stay running; same for cron. - Outside mounts are visible inside jails, any way to change this behaviour ? Best Regards, Hugo -- www.6s-gaming.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are you truly a M$ desktop alternative?
This email is going to any Linux house whom has pitched themselves via their websites and reviews, from my research as being possible 1) FreeBSD is (fortunately) not Linux. it's different things 2) FreeBSD doesn't try to be (fortunately) windows alternative in strict sense. I mean giving same style of computing, similar functionality but with smaller costs. It's alternative way of computing, like other unices. For me - much better alternative but that's my choice. 3) Your mail looks like hidden commercial advertisement. Bad place for it in that mailing list ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are you truly a M$ desktop alternative?
OpenOffice.org can do the job there, but a file created with OOo will be rather misshapen when opened with Excel and vica versa. So it's not advicable. OpenOffice reads excel and word documents - so vice versa is not true. OpenOffice can export excel documents too ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are you truly a M$ desktop alternative?
Your detailed reply appreciated I've got to tell you, you're looking for a lot of detailed advice for free. I know you _say_ you did a lot of research, but the level of knowledge you display in your questions does not demonstrate that you did _any_ research. If research is defined by reading adverts and publications in popular computer magazines he probably did really a lot of research, and didn't understand this is a bit worthless. out for you, I've been doing it for business for six years now. Feel free to contact me directly and I'll be happy to put a consulting package together. possibly it's what he need i'm sure you will help him. But for sure it's bad mailing list for that topic. if any of FreeBSD mailing lists - maybe freebsd-advocacy, but for sure not freebsd-questions ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VPN with multiple offices
companies who will need temporary access to the network while working on larger projects. In addition to this we would like to give remote access for our road warriors from anonymous networks. For the our offices I believe a tunnel with esp that seems to be the is documented in the handbook and many other sites. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html http://www.daemonnews.org/200101/ipsec-howto.html http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/bsdcon02/full_papers/schadow/schadow_html/ contrary to what you pointed i will recommend you vtun (ports/net/vtun). i use it for really many things, works excellent and will have all needed functionality including compression, encryption and is bandwidth efficient. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD v4.10 - Newbie Needs Help - KDE Really Slow !!
I just installed FreeBSD v4.10. All installed OK I choose KDE as the Desktop Problem: KDE v3 is reallly SLOW!! - Takes 2 minutes to start/load !! - Just opening a simple Console takes almost a minute !! - Resolution looks really grainy - as if its 256 colors - Don't know how to change this ??? My System: Pentium 200Mhz 128MB RAM 16MB PCI Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT yes KDE is really slow, quite like this on P200. the simplest solution is not to use it at all (on faster machines too). Unless all you need is fancy graphics KDE doesn't have anything really useful. Use fvwm2 or icewm as window manager it's fast. you may like to run few of KDE apps, but without KDE as a whole ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are you truly a M$ desktop alternative?
will be rather misshapen when opened with Excel and vica versa. So it's not advicable. What about gnumeric? There are also other assorted programs out there to fill the need desired. works fine - actually i use it and works well ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting or Reading UFS?
I have 4 large (120- 200 Gig) hard drives server. The server died and I'm no longer using I can get the data off these drives? - Convert UFS to any other mountable and OS X? If so, where? I thought maybe Ghost, but sector copies, which are not readable by Ghost isn't OS X capable of reading UFS? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??
I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc... I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI, more like Notepad) to edit configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like File Manager to move files easily around from the CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!) so why you installed FreeBSD while windows 2000 (maybe XP) is what you want? don't expect other software that are not windows to be windows. fortunately they are not. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??
The leanest desktop environment for Linux/Unix/FreeBSD is XFCE4. I don't think so; look here: http://www.xwinman.org/otherdesktops.html XD640 looks really cool, unfortunately it's about 1/3 done. but i still don't understand sense of projects like XPde? what's a sense of making things almost exactly looking like windows?! windows is 100% windows compatible ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo
Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for the AMD64 architecture at this point? what is gentoo? is it some new OS or linux distro? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo
Does Linux or FreeBSD for the AMD64 architecture at this point? It doesn't really matter...yes gentoo is a linux distro. and its the only linux distro I would consider with the AMD64 architecture. I was looking to see if one moment. distribution is distribution, linux is a kernel. CPU support isn't the distribution feature. they just put everything in one CD/DVD with some installer. anyone here has used (or has knowledge of) both AMD64 OSes' support and functionality for x86-64 applications. i only used NetBSD and it has full support of AMD64 - i mean 64-bit mode both for kernel and userspace, no emulation needed. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wrong Xircom card??
I'm trying a net/ftp install of 4.8 on my Thinkpad. The laptop didn't come with a builtin NIC so I bought a Xircom 10/100 card. (I'm using the IBM UBS to CAT5 connector.) The floppy install puts up /stand/sysinstall nicely, but when I goto the network sections I eventually see only SLIP or PPP as options. install kernel just didn't load this driver. i'm not sure now, but when booting in boot menu there is option for booting with PCMCIA support, but it's not default choice ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo
quite sharper then it was with XFree86. Since some days, -current defaults to X.org. Users of other FreeBSD version can update their ports and have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING howto switch from XFree to X.org i'm of of topic in X.org and XFree - what's the difference? any URL? thanks ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question...
do you provide also C-sources of your utilities on your web-page? if yes, where can i find them? in installation. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ???
Hi all, I wish BSD had a BigApache installer package, as it would make my life easier... contribution are welcome! http://www.bigapache.org/ The BigApache Enterprise Ready Server is free software: This Package provides a full implementation of Apache and it`s commonly used extension modules for the Win32 plattform Windows 2000 Windows XP This is the base package for BigApache: It includes Apache 2.x mod_ssl OpenSSL mod_perl mod_python mod_jk Mailserver Mercury Additional modules are available in the module distributions and in the BigApache-modules repository. -- Regards, DK __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
allowing cdrecord non-root
how can i allow given group to be able to write cd's? in NetBSD doing (assuming group name cdrw) chgrp cdrw /dev/rcd0* /dev/cd0* chmod 660 /dev/rcd0* /dev/cd0* in FreeBSD doing this for /dev/cd0 and /dev/acd0 doesn't work. tried to do the same with /dev/xpt0 - doesn't work too. is it possible at all? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
raw devices
where are raw devices in FreeBSD? do they exist at all? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bandwidth question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all Do you know there is bandwidth software to support Giga ethernet? same place where it is to support fast ethernet. Thank you very much ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com.hk address at http://mail.english.yahoo.com.hk ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBDCggVbTJCKecqu0RAngoAJ4hmm+JMoMOjDPrZdBuy9/ItAwFZACaAxbO lg5pnOjnazs1VICoGp/aQgI= =6X6e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bandwidth question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can you tell me in details? I need the bandwidth software to create graph in 1G quite unclear question. you ipfw to create counters for what you need, read it regularly (cron etc.), then process data to greate some graphs etc. (maybe gnuplot). Possibly there are something that will do this for you. if you like just to get how big traffic goes through interface you may use systat to take data. anyway - it doesn't mean if it's 9600bps ppp link of ethernet or gigabit ethernet -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBDWytVbTJCKecqu0RAus2AJ95EnQc695UYVmrEFFCCD7YNMzKnQCfSLri d0Cya4oUFXlp9xrx4tVGTAM= =XCbU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Connecting NT 4.0 to Internet via LAN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box but was unsuccessful. I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service Pack 1. My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm having trouble getting the browser to work. At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using their IP address but not the URL name. The browser will search and find a website but eventually responds with Could not open ... Would appreciate any troubleshooting advice you have time to relay. DNS doesn't work for you -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBDWznVbTJCKecqu0RAlmXAKCEQu1LOvA8iM3S7z2Pi7c7LrlCIwCggveg Qi4gRLa4OQHLJe5H2yI5ExE= =4mKe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Remote backup hosting setup?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 we are currently developing a small program/service for our customers exactly for this purpose. To just backup the data to a remote server is very easy, even on Windows: Use cygwin. It comes together with rsync and ssh. I recommend you use rsync since it is the most effective AFAIK and the transfer is safe (not unimportant to law companies). Then you could run a nightly task to backup the data. what is unsafe of rsh for example if network through which is going the traffic is under your control? ssh is SLOW. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBEJoXVbTJCKecqu0RAgGUAJ9s3MErMYwxXwTxKWGnHdVWoBFTrACcCUgN La1/dqv8okZKCIKIGc7OTbc= =eQKl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The set-user-ID-on-execution
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 did I miss something? Yes. Scripts can't utilize setuid/setgid. You can rewrite the script in perl and use the setuid perl interpreter (which is basically a workaround for this) or install sudo and give the script the ability to call sudo before executing commands that require elevated priviledges. or even better write this in C, or at least do wrapper in C that will make sure no tricks are in environment variables etc. it's quite difficult to write setuid scripts without security holes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBEVKCVbTJCKecqu0RAguzAJ9M+MoEItfK84EpSFi/v+OBWbnQ9wCfQLe1 J87ReX6DCOhasKkqoyRTVCc= =Lj+2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hacker Scans - Advice requested
Is there any way that this can be prevented without impairing the services provided by the operating system. they check passwords from dictionary etc. my advice (i did the same, while i've got scans for guest and test): make such account with very simple one word password home /nonexistent and shell script as shell saying smile, hidden camera is watching you. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swappable Hard drives?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Soon I will have two identical 120GB IDE HDs in my FBSD 4.10 system. One is to be basically a backup drive. Can I write a MBR to the second HD and then swap cables when I want to boot/run the system from the backup HD, assuming I've used pax or dump to make the file systems identical? The normal with identical drive make copy with dd dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=64k -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBFx4nVbTJCKecqu0RAvGJAJ46/hmk4mjLGMIFqY0D5Ipiu48XlACdHFeq 3dXywuA83pDKPZCX6oau7jM= =sHfG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: burning mp3's
ask... Is there a format specific to burn CDs with mp3 that are playable by such devices? or it is a normal and simple ISO with mp3 files together maybe in a single root directory? normal ISO. some players supports only one level of subdirectories, but everything else is standard ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Porting new Software into FreeBSD
have not yet found a way to port it into FreeBSD ports. Can any body tell me how its done. Are there any documentation on how to do this? The new software is called RURS (Remote Unix Recovery Service). Simply said, it is the same as WINDOWS Gost utility. we already have dd and rsh. it's of course not the same as WINDOWS Gost (or maybe ghost). it's much better and fer much easier to use. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding the ip address
I modifies your solution slightly, so I could use it for more interfaces
easily.
ifconfig dc0 | grep inet|awk '{print $2}'
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if your host use DHCP - you may add something to your dhclient.conf and
make some script to record it's IP.
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Re: finding the ip address
Doh! You'd still have to deal with some text output, though. Sorry. KDK host -t A `hostname`|head -1|cut -f 4 -d ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maximum hard drive capacity supported?
Upon trying to buy a new hard drive (80 GB) I was asked about the capabilities of my system, and I just thought that these were needed to tell what kind the IDE (ATA) capabilities. However, the vendor said that depending on the BIOS the system might not be able to recognize a large disk. BIOS is only needed to boot. FreeBSD then drives it without BIOS there are 3 possibilities: 1) BIOS just supports whole drive. nothing special needed 2) BIOS can't support the whole drive, it detects as much smaller one. solution: install system with separate /boot partition that fits in the range that BIOS supports. after booting FreeBSD will get whole disk 3) BIOS hangs completely trying to drive your disk. rare case but i have this with P133 machine with 80GB disk. machine runs NetBSD, and i boot kernel from floppy, then NetBSD supports whole drive. with FreeBSD it could be difficult to fit kernel on floppy but it is possible if you will compile yours with minimal set of drivers (but including disk) and then load modules from disk by startup scripts. my custom kernel compresses to 977000 bytes, loader takes 237568 bytes so it could fit. unfortunately i don't have enough FreeBSD knowledge now to tell you how prepare such floppy. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maximum hard drive capacity supported?
Well if the manufacturer states that the BIOS CAN support 80G drives then there is no reason why you should not believe on that. Go ahead and get one of thoes 80G giants. it's rather standard now :) 250GB are available and works with FreeBSD on 500Mhz class hardware :) just /boot partition had to be separate because BIOS doesn't take it's full capacity ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
moving to larger drive
could You help me in commands used to 1) create disklabel and mbr on blank disk 2) install boot loader manually ? i know how to do it in NetBSD, but here it's a bit different. i need to move everything from one disk to another. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving to larger drive
manually ? There is nothing wrong with running sysinstall(8) on a live system. Can even be run remotely via ssh. Suggest you skip down to the (C)onfigure menu. Use (F)disk and (L)abel. Put your new partitions under /mnt/ or someplace separate from your running system filespace. Use (W)rite once you have things the way you desire. Then exit from sysinstall(8). i prefer to know what i'm doing. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving to larger drive
Use fdisk to slice and do the mbr. In 4.xxx use disklabel to do disk labeling (partitioning) and boot block. In 5.xxx use bsdlabel to do disk labeling and boot block. Then use newfs to create filesystems in the partitions created with disklabel/bsdlabel. manually ? i know how to do it in NetBSD, but here it's a bit different. i need to move everything from one disk to another. Once you create the new drive, then, in single user, dump(8) | restore(8) from the old partitions/file systems to the new ones. that is what i know but fdisk/bsdlabel i do not. is fdisk compulsory? in NetBSD i don't create fdisk partition table at all just bsd label ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
921kbps ppp line - problems
here is my config default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command disable dns stalka: set device /dev/cuad4 set speed 921600 add default HISADDR disable deflate pred1 deflate24 FreeBSD 6.0 on this side, puc/sio compatible interface (TITAN-800H PCI, 8 port interface), NetBSD-current on other side. connection generally works but Nov 19 21:42:31 chylonia ppp[1144]: tun0: Phase: deflink: HDLC errors - FCS: 50, ADDR: 0, COMD: 0, PROTO: 0 and actually there are detectable packet loss and big slowdown on transfers. there is NO silo overflow errors in kernel! what i missed? to be clear - i have NetBSD here before and connection worked fine, so line/modem is OK. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
background fsck
what is the rule to decide if filesystem may be background checked or not? for example my / is checked foreground, while /home checked background. can't root partition be background checked too? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Procedure for upgrading CPU
I'm thinking of upgrading the CPU in my machine running 6.0-RELEASE with an SMP kernel. Is it a matter of powering down the machine, swapping chips and powering up? if anything more - then maybe BIOS upgrade if this won't work with new chips. for FreeBSD - nothing at all. same devices, same king of CPUs, no compiling needed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about ZFS support
Are you planning to include support for ZFS(link below) into FreeBSD in any future releases? http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/ while i'm not FreeBSD coder i would ask question - how does it REALLY work - contrary to information. i mean how it works in practice. IMHO checksumming every data (not just metadata) is nonsense if it cannot be turned off. this makes every transfer not just I/O bound but CPU and memory transfer/cache bound too. while disk and memory bandwidth in todays machines are quite comparable (memory is faster but not THAT faster than linear disk I/O) it isn't just a little thing. built in compression isn't good idea IMHO - of course it doesn't hurt if it's optional. today disk space is rarely a problem, while huge files are often not much compressible. by general description filesystem looks very nice. thats theory - did anyone made a real test on real system? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iSCSI support
and growing. I'm currently looking at a Coraid AoE (ATA-over-Ethernet) solution since it seems to have good support for FreeBSD and Windows drivers in the works. On the other hand, iSCSI has Windows support and FreeBSD in the works. stupid question: can anyone explain me the sense and adventages of iSCSI compared to say NFS? for me it's just some more layer to take lots of $$$ from people. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Status of 6.0 for production systems
I remember back a while when 5.x had been recently released as STABLE and the conventional wisdom said not to use it in production until the 5.3 release. Is there any such conventional wisdom as regards 6.x? my home system is actually production system that can't be stopped for a long time. i moved finally from NetBSD for various reasons including real SMP support (real=not crashing and not all-giant lock). what i can say is 1) performance is excellent. maybe it should be named FastBSD not FreeBSD :) 2) it DO has bugs, but i already filtered those than can make a problems for me. 3) first bug - kldunload means danger. many kernel modules just crash the system when unloaded. solution: just don't do it, not a real problem. 4) using kernel-ppp+pppd=crash after not a long time. that forced my to learn user ppp(8) which is actually MUCH better. same solution as 3. anyway i don't see any reason why kernel ppp is maintained at all. user ppp+tun interface works perfect. 5) sio driver has bugs. no crashes but overruns are reported by thousands unless i patched sio.c to increase buffer eightfold. the real bug is somewhere else, and can always be repeated with just dd if=/dev/ad0 bs=1m of=/dev/null the larger bs - the larger buffer have to be set to fix it until some value than enlarging bs to anything doesn't break things at all. i don't know how this all works in kernel so have no idea about the real fix. but this fix is enough for now. if you don't use high-speed serial it shouldn't be a problem for you anyway. 6) still have to learn ipfw more, an excellent tool! incomparably better than NetBSD's ipf! found no bugs on other things and system works stable. for 4 days now but stable without any problems, having stable 921kbps ppp link (which is my outbound connection) and all userlevel programs working fine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6 DVD
I would like to know when you will release the official FreeBSD 6 DVD so I can purchase it from FreeBSDMall. Also I want to know what is including this DVD. I think must be like other UNIX-like environments that have all the OS files plus some extra software that you can download them from the Internet. If so I will be very happy. I am using FreeBSD for a few months and up to now I am very satisfied with its usage. Also recommend me some good books how to administer or install properly a FreeBSD server. included in /usr/share/doc/ :) just make sure you installed docs with sysinstall. an excellent set of books! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about ROOT LOGIN
I am sitting here beside my FreeBSD machine and suddenly see this: login: Nov 21 11:54:27 freebsd login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 and I don't know why it popped up. Isn't ttyv0 the console? You don't think someone has hacked into my system do you? try w (assuming it's not you just logged as root ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI problem?
How to read this error message? It happens more and more lately :(( This machine is running 5.4 with one hard disk SCSI 72 MB exactly as it seems. disk is failing Olivier Nov 22 17:42:50 ufo kernel: Copied 18 bytes of sense data offset 12: 0xf1 0x0 0x3 0x0 0x51 0x3b 0x9f 0xa 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0xc 0x0 0xd3 0x80 0x0 0x18 Nov 22 17:42:50 ufo kernel: (da0:ahd1:0:0:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 51 ac 7f 0 0 4 0 Nov 22 17:42:50 ufo kernel: (da0:ahd1:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error Nov 22 17:42:50 ufo kernel: (da0:ahd1:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition Nov 22 17:42:50 ufo kernel: (da0:ahd1:0:0:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:513b9f asc:c,0 Nov 22 17:42:50 ufo kernel: (da0:ahd1:0:0:0): Write error field replaceable unit: d3 actual retry count: 24 Nov 22 17:42:50 ufo kernel: (da0:ahd1:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) N ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iSCSI support
from people. ICBW but to me it seems that iSCSI is like a distributed NFS backend. You can store the data on multiple devices, in multiple forms (as long as they all talk iSCSI). You can also have two storage sites (geographically separate) connected by fibre and use those for storage. same as NFS. while with iSCSI you have exported whole devices that can't be really shared with ease. and 100 times more expensive of course that just a cheap PC with cheap IDE drives.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project Management Software
Could you please tell me if there is any Project Management software that i can use with FreeBSD? Something similar to MS Project..? i don't know M$ Project but cvs works fine, and is really good as it's used by FreeBSD developer for many years ! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iSCSI support
just a cheap PC with cheap IDE drives.. Whole devices accessed directly can be a lot faster than NFS, since the client doesn't have to constantly ask the NFS server whether the file it's currently accessing has changed. any problem to add such option to NFS?? with iSCSI you just CAN't do it. anyway this asking isn't bandwidth intensive, while adds delays. and it may affect of transfer speed for ONE process reading one file, but not multiuser system. And when a cheap IDE in one of the 100 servers in your server room goes out, you have to find the server, figure out which drives it has in it and which RAID controller it has, go to your spares cabinet and get the if company having this 100 servers (must be really huge company or really bad software using to need 100 servers) and their IT managers don't know what it where and don't know few basic unix command to localize the problem source - then here is a problem, and any kind of SAN won't fix it. the real fix is to employ someone more competent. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iSCSI support
affect of transfer speed for ONE process reading one file, but not multiuser system. Regardless of whether iSCSI is any good, it's a common access method for SAN devices, and from what I've been told, may be the *only* access method. So AFAIK it's SCSI over FC, SCSI over IP was next probably to eliminate expensive FC, that was invented first to make things more expensive. looks like politicians - first they get 1000$, then give 100$ back and say how much they gave ;) anyway - for already existing iSCSI devices driver won't hurt of course, but i'm sure nobody that understand things won't invest in such technologies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project Management Software
used by FreeBSD developer for many years ! Software project management is only a small subset of the project management universe. of course. in *nix world traditionally there are lots of small programs, each doing well it's small work, instead of one huge program. it's good to concentrate on that solution and then search. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.0 GENERIC Kernel perfomance
It's only your own opinion until you share with us the measurements that led you to conclude this. FreeBSD 6.0 is much faster than FreeBSD 5.4 in my measurements, especially in the area of filesystem performance. exactly same conclusion here! without even any precise benchmarking, just as i see doing same things that i used in both FreeBSD 5.4, and NetBSD 2.0. Not mentioning linux that is sometimes even faster with... one process.. (and only sometimes) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD GENERIC kernelmodules
i have no idea why almost EVERYTHING is kld-modularized, and once again in generic kernel. below is my almost generic kernel taking 4 times less space, the only difference is that some modules have to be loaded at boot (by loader.conf). wouldn't it be better for true generic kernel? just install by default loader.conf that loads almost everything, and then in most cases just deleting some lines will be enough instead of recompiling! my loader.conf and kernel config below: autoboot_delay=2 if_fxp_load=YES geom_gpt=YES atapci_load=YES atadisk_load=YES random_load=YES fdc_load=YES sio_load=YES puc_load=YES atapicd_load=YES cam_load=YES atapicam_load=YES if_tun_load=YES nfsserver_load=YES sysvshm_load=YES sysvsem_load=YES sysvmsg_load=YES usb_load=YES umass_load=YES linux_load=YES and my kernel. ident SMP-686 options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel machine i386 cpu I686_CPU #optionsSCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET# InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options QUOTA options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options SCSI_DELAY=2000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic# I/O APIC device pci device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver device sc # Pseudo devices. device loop# Network loopback device ether # Ethernet support device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
growfs - to fear or not to fear?
did anyone used this little thing? i have system like this: # /dev/ad0: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1843200004.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 (/) b: 2457600 18432000 swap c: 3125818080unused0 0 d: 291692208 208896004.2BSD 2048 16384 43400 (/home) and would like to have one partition+swap, not two. after booting from CD and turning on shell will 1) copy files from partition a to d, and put files from partition d's root to d's home. mount -o async,noatime /dev/ad0d /mnt cd /mnt mkdir home mv * home mount -r /dev/ad0a /mnt2 (cd /mnt2;tar cf - .)|tar xpf - umount /mnt2 cd .. umount /mnt 2) bsdlabel and delete b, set up a partition to end of disk-1GB, and b after a, not deleting d (yes it will overlap temporarily) 3) dd if=/dev/ad0d of=/dev/ad0a bs=1m to move 4) bsdlabel and remove d 5) FINALLY - growfs /dev/ad0a 6) boot0cfg to make it all bootable. can i do 5) without fear? i want to do full dump of my data, but don't like to do it twice (before for sure, and then after repartitioning). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD GENERIC kernelmodules
# Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter Pretty lean kernel configuration. It's impossible for the GENERIC kernel though to satisfy everyone, for various reasons. what i mean is to change generic kernel in FreeBSD releases. my generic kernel will satisfy more users, and in most cases there is only need to rebuild one or a few modules with some added options. i think kernel modules was invented exactly for this. and loader.conf is an excellent thing! if kernels have to keep most things in it, so why having modules at all? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recompiled 6.0 does not boot -- need help !!
boot: Simply copy the default line and append .old, as in: boot: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader.old loader.old??? AFAIK loader is not rebuilt while compiling kernel and there is no such file like loader.old created! Here, you can tell the loader to boot the previous kernel: OK boot /boot/kernel.old looks better :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so much clock interrupts?!
that's what i see in systat with FreeBSD 6.0/i386-SMP 540 534 99 pdwak 2000 cpu0: time 16825 pdpgs 2000 cpu1: time on FreeBSD 5.3 live CD i have 100 not 2000 times per second isn't it too much?! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: command line sound player?
I have searched high and low for a simple command-line sound player that I can call from other apps. I need something that just plays the sound, without any feedback. Like 'cat sound.wav /dev/dsp' but without the almost zero signal-to-noise ratio. Any ideas? thanks, you simply played different type of audio that is set by default in /dev/dsp look at ports/audio/wavplay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: command line sound player?
I have searched high and low for a simple command-line sound player that I can call from other apps. I need something that just plays the sound, without any feedback. Like 'cat sound.wav /dev/dsp' but without the almost zero signal-to-noise ratio. Any ideas? if it's C program much better (and much faster) way is to simply open file in /dev do ioctl to configure and write to it ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How the heck do you burn a VCD?
best way to burn this. with the following: burncd -f /dev/acd1 -d vcd star_wreck_in_the_pirkinning_subtitled_xvid.avi you must first prepare VCD image - use vcdimager from ports ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: so much clock interrupts?!
on FreeBSD 5.3 live CD i have 100 not 2000 times per second isn't it too much?! Yes it is. That's why I have kern.hz=100 in my /boot/loader.conf . -- do you know why they set it too high in 6.0? there must be a reason! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: so much clock interrupts?!
540 534 99 pdwak 2000 cpu0: time 16825 pdpgs 2000 cpu1: time on FreeBSD 5.3 live CD i have 100 not 2000 times per second isn't it too much?! No, it's just a consequence of HZ=1000 instead of HZ=100. I've so why 2000 not 1000? 2000 on each processor! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
growfs(8) - no fear!
i asked the question recently, no answers, but finally did it this way and all worked fine. i shifted my partition left with dd and resized with growfs. but can bsdlabel be forced to write label with overlapping slices? for temporary operations it will be useful if i know what i'm doing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing without sysinstall - question.
if i would like to install FreeBSD without sysinstall, what things should i do after: 1) dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=1m count=1 to clean up the disk (or da0 or else depending what king of disk is used) 2) bsdlabel -w ad0 3) bsdlabel -e ad0 and edit my slices 4) newfs my slices 5) boot0cfgbsdlabel -B. CAN be just bsdlabel -B used with FreeBSD-only partitioning? 6) mount destination structure under /mnt export DESTDIR=/mnt 7) in each distribution directory do ./install.sh 8) create /mnt/etc/fstab, edit rc.conf etc. what else must be done to install system this way? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: defaultroute
Is there a way after changing the value defaultroute in /etc/rc.conf that freebsd accepts the change without restarting? man route ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: so much clock interrupts?!
That's why I have kern.hz=100 in my /boot/loader.conf . Have you been able to measure a performance benefit from reducing it? Have you shown that reducing it does not cause your performance to *drop*? It was increased for a reason..it actually increases performance on some workloads. no i'm just asking. does hz=1000 means that if i run 1 CPU-bound process per processor it's switched 1000 times per second between them? or just 1000 times per second system call is issued that does many system duties, but switches processes with different frequency? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: so much clock interrupts?!
No, it's just a consequence of HZ=1000 instead of HZ=100. I've so why 2000 not 1000? 2000 on each processor! Technical reasons..anyway, 2000 might look like a large number to you, but it's really not unless you're on a very slow machine (like a 486). i'm asking why it's 2000, not 1000. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: so much clock interrupts?!
I'm also wondering wether 1000 Hz on a Soekris net4801 (Geode 266 MHz) won't be overkill. I'm planning to migrate some of them from 5.4 to 6.0, probably not. my 400Mhz PII works almost as fast with HZ=1000 and HZ=100 - tested today and doubting wether to change the new default to its more conservative previous setting of 100 Hz. This may be a religious issue and everyone should use what he or she seems fitting. On slow CPUs, it may not be merely a religious issue. :) Markus -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NCQ SATA drives
will FreeBSD make any use of that feature? it can with command queue with SCSI drives, and this looks similar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
right place to load kld modules
where is right place to do it, other than loader.conf, to load it after kernel is started. i would like to defer usb bus discovery so SCSI bus numbering is independent of USB storage devs connected. i put it for now in usbd but is there any place made for that, like /etc/lkm.conf in NetBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD
Newbie for freeBSD. One question freeBSD vs openBSD...what's the difference...security...supportdevelopment stage...other pros cons for each. People say that OpenBSD is the most secure. I say i would be as secure as it's system administrator. If we talk about performance, i agree with most people's opinion :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNOME+NetBSD based X-terminal
sorry for cross-posting, or exactly reposting after getting no answer, it's not exactly FreeBSD-related but if anyone know, please give me a clue. i'm not GNOME expert, to be exact - i don't use it privately at all, but i have to configure it for others. the problem: first - system(s) configuration: 1) host machine running NetBSD, or FreeBSD or linux (no matter, same effects) with GNOME version 2.=10 (all version give same effects), running gdm for remote displays. no X local display. 2) X-terminals which are super-cut version of NetBSD 1.5.3+statically compiled X server that runs with -query to host machine 1). No fonts, uses font server on 1) too. such configuration works perfect if i use fvwm2 and icewm and twm, using both gdm and xdm for logging in. it works perfect too if after using fvwm2 or icewm i will log out and THEN log on into gnome desktop. BUT - if i log on into gnome desktop at first time (after X server started) it crashes after a short while - before displaying any progress, or quickly after displaying gnome startup window. X crashes without first putting anything to it's log. problem is at first login after X server start, NOT X terminal's NetBSD start. if i would press CTRL-ALT-Backspace so X server will exit and (by script on terminal) restart, it works as first start. could anyone help me how to find a problem at all. i just have no idea where to search! after this: my X terminals have no problem handling any apps, with and without gnome. i'm actually using them in many places for many uses - no problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD
it seems the OpenBSD group doesn't actually like questions. You can get flamed for the best worded question. Under FreeBSD, the community is more open to ideas and people trying things. In addition...some parts of the core of OpenBSD cannot easily be upgraded w/o issues. (Like openSSL for example)...and if you try and fail and ask for helpwell read above again ! but they have nice 2.6MB photo available at the main webpage about how many machines do they have ;) citation: Only one remote hole in the default install, in more than 8 years! well: MS-DOS No security hole in default install from beginning to the end! mostly because no network is supported in DOS. similarly - OpenBSD just don't run any services in default install, like NetBSD, so it's strange it has even one security hole. i'm not sure with NetBSD (which i'm using some time) but AFAIK it's zero security holes in default install because only syslogd is started by default. With FreeBSD there is no default install as there are couple of questions about network, NFS, inetd etc.. assuming one will answer no to all, how many security holes will there be. last thing - lots of things (most) are from ports. and no matter what BSD is it, or linux, there are same programs having same bugs. for all that think about security please don't use popular books, learn by yourself, and don't configure and use things like everyone else do! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail from src on 6.0
i'm in database libraries well, but default sendmail from FreeBSD 6.0 install - which i use - looks that way [EMAIL PROTECTED] file aliases.db aliases.db: Berkeley DB 1.85 (Hash, version 2, native byte-order) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right place to load kld modules
/etc/lkm.conf in NetBSD? How about /etc/rc.local or create a script file to go in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to do what you want? rc.local starts after usbd, and module driver that is attached after inserting the device does not attach! is it bug? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: right place to load kld modules
rc.local starts after usbd, and module driver that is attached after inserting the device does not attach! is it bug? don't we load modules in /boot/loader.conf ? yes i do, but kldload is too here. if i - say - attach USB pendrive with no umass.ko loaded, nothing is of course attached after kldload umass there is STILL nothing attached. after removing the device and plugging again - it's attached. is it OK? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
