Confusion about installing X and release upgrading?

2007-12-03 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi,
I'm currently using FreeBSD 6.2 release with security patches from 
Releng6-2.  This is in a Qemu virtual machine, if only because I don't know 
of any other system which will let me redirect the serial port over a Telnet 
session.
All that being said, I am slightly confused by the stuff I've read on 
the FreeBSD release process.  I know that 7.0 is due to come out soon, if it 
isn't out already.  Am I correct in taking from what I've read that 6.2 will 
continue to be supported for a while yet?
Also, about installing X.  I've had an interest in trying to see how 
well Gnome and Orca perform in FreeBSD.  Is there a cannonical way to 
install X and Gnome?  I've heard from monitoring this mailing list that the 
x11/xorg metaport isn't particularly favored.  Would I need a complete X 
installation for Ghome anyway?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
All the best,
Zack.



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Re: Confusion about installing X and release upgrading?

2007-12-03 Thread Zachary Kline

Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Zachary Kline wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm currently using FreeBSD 6.2 release with security patches from 
 Releng6-2.  This is in a Qemu virtual machine, if only because I don't 
 know of any other system which will let me redirect the serial port over 
 a Telnet session.
 All that being said, I am slightly confused by the stuff I've read on 
 the FreeBSD release process.  I know that 7.0 is due to come out soon, if 
 it isn't out already.  Am I correct in taking from what I've read that 
 6.2 will continue to be supported for a while yet?

 7.0 is at BETA3 right now, and 7.0-RELEASE is expected to be an
 early Christmas present.

 6.2 support is slated to end in late spring, IIRC, but since there will
 be at least one more 6.X release, you should be able to run a 6.X variety
 and expected to be supported through most of next year (see the Release
 Engineering team's page and the Security Team's page for more details;
 SecTeam should have a general EOL policy statement for number of months
 after a RELEASE, etc.)

 Also, about installing X.  I've had an interest in trying to see how 
 well Gnome and Orca perform in FreeBSD.  Is there a cannonical way to 
 install X and Gnome?  I've heard from monitoring this mailing list that 
 the x11/xorg metaport isn't particularly favored.  Would I need a 
 complete X installation for Ghome anyway?
 Thanks in advance for any advice.
 All the best,
 Zack.

 The Right Way (tm):

 1.  Update your ports tree.

 2.  As root, do this:
 # cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2
 # make install clean
Hi,
This will fetch in the Xorg dependencies as well, I presume?
Thanks,
Zack.



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Confusion about Ports and options framework

2007-11-25 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi,
I've read through the sections of the handbook quite carefully, and 
haven't quite found what I'm looking for.
To be specific, I've no plans to install X11 or anything like it on this 
machine yet.  I may do so in the future merely to see how accessible Gnome 
and such are, but not now.
I note that /usr/ports/editors/emacs has several environment variables 
which can be set, such as WITHOUT_X11.  I can set these just fine, and don't 
get any X-related dependencies.
However, if I were to use something like Portmanager, Portupgrade, etc, 
is there any way I can keep it from downloading these as well?  On the 
subject of port managers, is manual port installation the prefered method of 
doing this anyway?
Thanks in advance,
Zack.



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Re: Confusion about Ports and options framework

2007-11-25 Thread Zachary Kline

RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:24:32 -0800
 Zachary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I've read through the sections of the handbook quite carefully,
 and haven't quite found what I'm looking for.
 To be specific, I've no plans to install X11 or anything like it
 on this machine yet.  I may do so in the future merely to see how
 accessible Gnome and such are, but not now.
 I note that /usr/ports/editors/emacs has several environment
 variables which can be set, such as WITHOUT_X11.

Call me dense, if you like.  I'm not quite sure how to do that.  Would a 
simple WITHOUT_X11=YES or similar pull it off?  I got the impression those 
were environment variables, and not something specific to make.  But my 
software development knowledge in this area is next to nothing.
I guess I have to get used to reading manpages.  Looking through the one 
on make.conf left me imperfectly edified.  It's hard to know when I'd 
actually need to change anything in there for practical use.
Any help would be much appreciated,
Zack.



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Help with a new port?

2007-11-24 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi,
My name is Zachary Kline, and I've recently begun experimenting with 
BSD-style operating systems under Qemu.  I happen to be blind, and thus 
Qemu's serial console--more specifically, the ability to redirect this 
console output over a TCP port--is the only way I could get FreeBSD 
installed, since it doesn't come with much in the way of accessibility 
tools.  I can't fault anybody for this last, however.
Anyway, to get to the point: I'm not quite sure where to ask this.  I 
have a new port which I feel should be included in the FreeBSD accessibility 
category, if only because I noticed its absence in searching for it.  I've 
had trouble getting it to port myself, though, and have little real 
programming experience of the kind it would require.
This port is Emacspeak, from http://emacspeak.sf.net.  It's a screen 
reader--though that term isn't really encouraged by the developer--for the 
Emacs work environment.
I'm wondering if anybody on here might be able to help with this 
porting, or be willing to discuss accessibility of FreeBSD in general.
Thanks much for your time,
Zack.



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Re: Help with a new port?

2007-11-24 Thread Zachary Kline

Robert Joosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Hi,

 I have a new port which I feel should be included in the FreeBSD
 accessibility  category, if only because I noticed its absence in
 searching for it.

 Have you read
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html
 yet ?

I must confess I haven't.  I'll look into it and see what comes up. 
Currently trying to figure out how to get ports upgraded in a sane fashion 
as well, as I've noticed some of the packages are quite behind in comparison 
to the ports they're based on.
Thanks,
Zack.



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