Re: How many IP address aliases can practically be used on one physical Ethernet interface?

2006-01-31 Thread Crispy Beef

Chuck Swiger wrote:
  Use BPF or libnet to generate test traffic using spoofed IPs, rather than

actually configuring a machine with thousands of IPs.  There are also companies
which make hardware IP traffic generators, if you want to buy a solution rather
than building one.


Have done a quick search on these and found the docs for libnet, can't seem to 
find much on BPF.


I could really do with a solution for testing a server under heavy load, I'm 
aware of the mod for Apache (flood I think) but I don't have the option of 
using that right now.  Would one of the above allow me to simulate multiple - 
hundreds or thousands - clients accessing a server?


The main reason is that I've recompiled apache to up the hard limit of 
MaxClients, the machine has 2Gb or RAM so should be able to handle plenty of 
connections but I'd like to see at what point it would fall over.


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Re: I have been hacked (WAS: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong?)

2006-01-18 Thread Crispy Beef
Also, I said smtp ports were open on the machines in question, I just verified 
that I can send emails via BOTH these systems even though no 
sendmail/exim/whatever was ever installed by me and sendmail_enable=None on 
both.


For what it's worth, to disable senmail on 5.0 and later, you need:

sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO

All those lines need to go in your /etc/rc.conf file, just the top line on 
it's own will only stop mail coming into your system and I think it has to be 
NO not None, but I'm not 100% on that.


The above is from the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-changingmta.html

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Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0

2006-01-17 Thread Crispy Beef

| hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0.
| DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) message.The iPod nano is detected when 
| plugged in, but a daX device is not created. please help me



I get that too with the 30GB iPod I just bought. I think there's an issue
preventing new iPods from working with FreeBSD. I even formatted mine
for windows since it's easier to read vfat rather than HFS. Still nothing.
If you get your nano workin please let me know :)


I'll ask my friend what he did to get his working, not sure which iPod he has 
exactly either, could well be a difference in the models or something like that.

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Re: Time Zone

2006-01-17 Thread Crispy Beef

Ian Lord wrote:

What is the prefered time zone for a web server

Is it better to keep it GMT or local timezone ?

I am in eastern time zone so I need to deal with standard and daily 
saving time...


We are UK based but our server (and most of our customers) are US based, so we 
keep the US time (EST) as it makes more sense when emails are sent out and 
orders made etc.

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Boot with ACPI

2006-01-17 Thread Crispy Beef

Hi,

When I boot my laptop running 6.0-RELEASE I need to boot with ACPI as 
otherwise it crashes.  Was wondering how to make booting with ACPI the default?


To be honest I'm not bothered about the boot menu at all as I'm quite happy 
with the system booting without any interaction.  Sometimes I need to reboot 
remotely which isn't possible at the moment.  I've read a bit about 
loader.conf and have used it for various things, is it as easy as putting a 
line in there to get this working?


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Re: Boot with ACPI

2006-01-17 Thread Crispy Beef
When I boot my laptop running 6.0-RELEASE I need to boot with ACPI as 
otherwise it crashes.  Was wondering how to make booting with ACPI

the default?

To be honest I'm not bothered about the boot menu at all as I'm quite
happy with the system booting without any interaction.  Sometimes I
need to reboot remotely which isn't possible at the moment.  I've
read a bit about loader.conf and have used it for various things, is
it as easy as putting a line in there to get this working?



If ACPI isn't enabled on your system by default it means your system
is blacklisted.

To overwrite the blacklist you can set hint.acpi.0.disabled to 0
in /boot/loader.conf. See man acpi for more ACPI tunables.

If your system works with ACPI, you probably should file an PR.


This is kind of what I thought after reading the acpi man page.  I entered the 
following into the /boot/loader.conf file:


hint.acpi.0.disabled=0

Still no luck though, the default option on the loader menu boots without 
ACPI.  When hitting the second option you see ACPI being enabled i.e. 
/boot/kernel/acpi.ko being loaded.  This doesn't happen with option 1 even 
with the above in my loader.conf file.  :-/


Somebody else on this list mentioned the i440BX chipset being a bit flakey 
with ACPI which is why it might not be enabled by default, but with ACPI it 
seems to work nice enough for everyday use, fans go on and off, system shuts 
down nicely etc.


The only reference to my chipset I can find on the blacklist is this:

INTEL - 440BX (Seattle 2) - 0x1000 (old) = Field beyond end of region

It's listed as non-critical.
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Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0

2006-01-16 Thread Crispy Beef

david wrote:




how can i compile freebsd GENERIC kernel with HFS+ support?sorry for 
stupid question.i am newbie in freebsd


This site should help you install the utils and module that you need...

http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/

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Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0

2006-01-15 Thread Crispy Beef

david wrote:

hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0.
DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) 
message.The iPod nano is detected when plugged in, but a daX device is 
not created. please help me


A friend of mine was/is having a similar problem, depending on the type of 
iPod you have (Mac or Windows formatted) you'll need to make sure you have the 
correct filesystem support...so if you have a Mac iPod you'll need to compile 
support into the kernel (HFS+) unless there's a module that can be loaded but 
I've always gone the kernel route.


With that you should be able to mount the iPod in the normal way and make use 
of something like gtkPod.



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Re: php5 and apache2?

2006-01-13 Thread Crispy Beef
I had the same problem before. I suppose you used portupgrade to install 
binary packages, right?
The php5 package depends on apache13, this is why portupgrade installed 
apache13.
You should deinstall php5 and apache13. Then refresh your ports tree. 
Finally, reinstall php5 from the ports:


cd /usr/ports/lang/php5
make
make install
cd /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions
make
make install


Might also be a good idea to delete the php5 options file first too.  It's 
located here:


/var/db/ports/php5/options

There's one for php5-extensions too.

Normally the settings in these files are taken from doing a 'make config' so 
if you want to start totally from scratch you probably want to ditch those too.


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Re: 4.6-RELEASE to 6.0-RELEASE...

2006-01-12 Thread Crispy Beef
There have been major changes in processes such as threads. You also 
have to boot the 5.3 update in single user mode to have a kernel that 
accepts the new arrangement and then install the userland. Before 5.1 
or 5.2 it didn't matter much but there was an fs change that you update 
in single user mode or boot the fix disc to finish the botched update.


You also have the problem that probably none of your ports from 4.x will 
work at 6.0. This could take quite a bit of time to upgrade.


One advantage is that I didn't really bother with the ports on that server, I 
rolled my own apps as I wasn't totally up with the ports system at the time, 
just seemed easier until I go the hang of it, so I probably would go for a 
fresh install of ports and get the latest versions of software installed that way.


The server is used for web hosting so I only really need to save out a few 
config files for virtual hosts etc. and the email directories.


It's sounding as though it might be easier just to have an hour or two of 
downtime late one night and do a fresh install...

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Re: 4.6-RELEASE to 6.0-RELEASE...

2006-01-12 Thread Crispy Beef

fbsd_user wrote:

There is a new and faster file system which is introduced in
release-5.4.
I highly recommend that you install 6.0 from scratch and
build your old server services anew to a development box you have
personal access to. Then remove the hard drive and ship it to you
remote site and swap with your production drive.  That way you get
the new file system in production and have quick fall back if things
don't work.

There is a lot of maintenance benefits to be had from a new clean
built from scratch server.


Yeah, from what I've read now and the time involved it seems as though it's 
going to be easier to just get 6.0 installed from scratch, plus I guess 
there's not going to be the possibility of old files from the previous install 
messing up the upgrade.


New install it is.

Might see if the data centre has a spare box I could mirror on for a day or so.

Cheers.
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Re: apache22 port ?

2006-01-11 Thread Crispy Beef

Frank Bonnet wrote:

Hello

Trying to install it on a new machine I noticed this morning that the 
apache22 port is missing , any infos ?


It should be there under '/usr/ports/www/apache22', I installed it a couple of 
days ago...


Might be worth refreshing your ports with cvsup or something.

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4.6-RELEASE to 6.0-RELEASE...

2006-01-11 Thread Crispy Beef

Hi,

I have a production server running 4.6-RELEASE and I would like to bring it 
upto date and get 6.0-RELEASE on there.  I have a rough idea of what needs to 
be done to accomplish this from reading various docs but it would be nice to 
see how smoothly it has gone for any others.


From what I can tell I first need to upgrade to a minimum of 5.3-RELEASE and 
then onto 6.0, so I guess doing a cvsup to the 5.3-RELEASE and then doing 
buildworld et all?  Then from there to same to get to 6.0?


My main concern is the filesystem, it's been updated since 4.x?  Will this 
mess things up?


The machine is remote so I really need to make sure this works without making 
it inaccessible.  I have a box here to trial run the process on so I get the 
steps correct first time, but thought I'd ask here too. :-)

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Re: speccing an NFS server -- smp good or bad?

2006-01-09 Thread Crispy Beef



Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
For a FBSD (or Solaris 10) based server that is only acting as an NFS  
server and nothing else, is there any advantage to using an SMP  
machine?  Any disadvantage?


Does CPU speed play any great factor (ie, use a 1.8ghz opteron  instead 
of a 2.2ghz opteron for example)?


I am planning for a Spring project to make an nfs server that serves  to 
multiple web servers / application servers using an Areca 1130  SATA 
raid card.  I assume lots of RAM for the OS to use to cache  would be 
desirable and GB ethernet.


Have recently built a machine for just this purpose too, although it runs 
Linux, the hardware requirements will be the same.


We needed a huge amount of storage on the network so went for the cheapest 
Opteron available (still overpowered), we put most of the cash into a decent 
motherboard with gigabit ethernet ports and fast PCI-X 3Ware raid cards to run 
the hardrives (the machine has over 3Tb of storage as it's used for video work 
- 16x 300Gb SATA drives).  Also 1Gb of RAM.


The bottlenecks on a server like this are always the network and drives, so 
look at those for performance.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Shuttle AMD64

2006-01-06 Thread Crispy Beef

Jean-Baptiste Potonnier wrote:

Ok,  I think so,
but it seems I can't load anything!





Try typing 'autoload' and then hitting return to see what that does, 
it should start to load a kernel.



Tried this yesterday an get  a message such cannot find kernel
Get the meny by typing beastie-start= each entry fails.

I 'll try with NetBSD this evening... if it fails go back to slack


In that case do an ls and see if you can see a kernel, might be called 
kernel.old or something and type 'boot kernel name', that should boot it up.


You shouldn't really have to do this from the ISO you downloaded, maybe it's 
worth getting it down again and burning out a fresh copy?


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DBus, Hald and Gnome Volume Manager

2006-01-06 Thread Crispy Beef

Hi,

Have recently set-up hald, dbus and gnome-volume-manager on my Linux box so 
that devices are automounted in fstab etc.  Works great!  Have had a look to 
see if I can have this running with Gnome on my 6.0-RELEASE laptop, found dbus 
in ports, but hald and gnome-volume-manager are nowhere to be seen.


Did some more digging and found that hald doesn't seem to have been ported yet 
which is probably why I've hit a dead end.  The site I found the info on was 
from 2004 so it could be out of date, any ideas if there's been any progress 
in this area?


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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef

Still sounds like a hardware problem. Maybe the laptop is overheating,
compiling software is always hard on a system. Also I don't think
Memtest86 will show you anything even if your ram is bad. The best way
to find out is to just change it out if you have extra somewhere or
remove part of it and/or shuffle it around.

Check for thermal issues, maybe build the kernel with the laptop in
the refrigerator or something :-). If you do something like that make
sure you don't get condensation buildup when you take it out of the
cold and into the warm... but the humidity is always low in the winter
so it shouldn't be to much of a problem.




One more thing. You said this was an older laptop (400ish MHz) right?
If so you better double check that ACPI is working and that the
thermal trip points are set correctly. I had a major problem with an
Armada 1750 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] i440BX) in that ACPI was totally broken.
FreeBSD 5.x would never trip the fans on. The system hit would 100C
(212F) and then FreeBSD would auto shutdown the system. I sold the
laptop after I found that out and bought a better one, an Omnibook
6000 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] with 440BX). I still had major problems with ACPI so
I decide to just install SuSE 9.3 Pro on it. SuSE worked perfect.


466MHz P2 Celeron with 128Mb RAM on an i440BX mobo.  The system won't boot 
unless it's with ACPI enabled, just panics during start-up.




FreeBSD's ACPI implementation and laptops with i440BX/MX or earlier
chipsets don't mix well. sysctl will help you with the thermal
settings and http://acpi.sourceforge.net/ will help if you need a new
DSDT. this will help some too:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/acpi-debug.html


Actually thinking about it now I've got this system running you could be 
right, since then I've had to get my PCMCIA network card running properly, 
whenever it gets plugged in the kernel panics, did some research and found 
that by putting debug.acpi.disabled=sysresource into the /boot/loader.conf 
file that it works just fine, so as you say there definitely seems to be some 
issues with ACPI.


You can hear the CPU fan wind up and down while the system is running, that's 
something I don't remember from having Gentoo compiling...that always worked 
just fine, so it could well be a heat issue.  The chipset on the laptop is an 
Intel i440BX jobbie.


Will look into the thermal thing now, cheers.
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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef

Robert Huff wrote:

Nikolas Britton writes:



Still sounds like a hardware problem.



Maybe not.
A couple of years back - in the early days of 4.x - I had a
problem which I /think/ manifested in the manner originally
described.
It turned out to be the script I'd set up to automate this
process - an unnecessary make depends IIRC.  It was the same error
every time, but the exact location changed.  Drove me up the wall.
Unless you (generic) really really really know what you're
doing, follow the steps in the Handbook.  They're tested, and they
work.  Including reading /ysr/src/UPDATING.


I've not really done anything special with scripts, just altered make.conf the 
one time to include a few compiler options (-O2 -march=pentium2 -pipe).


The kernel has now compiled a few times with and without the above options.
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Shuttle AMD64

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef


Jean-Baptiste Potonnier wrote:
I'm a new FreeBSD user, just tested it on an old i386, and want to 
switch from Slackware linux to FreeBSD or NetBSD.
I wanted to install FreeBSD on my new Shuttle SN95G5: the AMD64 cdrom # 
1 boots, but a message tells me that no kernel can be loaded.
I get a command line wit boot, ls, 'load', etc. I tried some command 
to load a kernel but it didn't work.


I don't know if can install FreeBSD on this hardware with this CDROM.


I would think you'll need to download the AMD64 ISO from here:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Shuttle AMD64

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef

Jean-Baptiste Potonnier wrote:



Jean-Baptiste Potonnier wrote:

/ I'm a new FreeBSD user, just tested it on an old i386, and want to 


// switch from Slackware linux to FreeBSD or NetBSD.
// I wanted to install FreeBSD on my new Shuttle SN95G5: the AMD64 
cdrom # // 1 boots, but a message tells me that no kernel can be loaded.
// I get a command line wit boot, ls, 'load', etc. I tried some 
command // to load a kernel but it didn't work.
// // I don't know if can install FreeBSD on this hardware with this 
CDROM.

/
I would think you'll need to download the AMD64 ISO from here:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/

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I Tried with these iso.



I have the SN85G4 Shuttle as my main system here, it's currently running Linux 
, but I have the AMD64 CD here sonmewhere, will see if it can boot at all.


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Shuttle AMD64

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef

Jean-Baptiste Potonnier wrote:



Jean-Baptiste Potonnier wrote:

/ I'm a new FreeBSD user, just tested it on an old i386, and want to 


// switch from Slackware linux to FreeBSD or NetBSD.
// I wanted to install FreeBSD on my new Shuttle SN95G5: the AMD64 
cdrom # // 1 boots, but a message tells me that no kernel can be loaded.
// I get a command line wit boot, ls, 'load', etc. I tried some 
command // to load a kernel but it didn't work.
// // I don't know if can install FreeBSD on this hardware with this 
CDROM.

/
I would think you'll need to download the AMD64 ISO from here:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/

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I Tried with these iso.


Just booted my AMD64 system with the install CD from the link above and got 
into sysinstall no problem, booted the kernel (with ACPI) and could see all 
hardware being detected nicely.


I remember when I first had the system that I had to flash the BIOS as the USB 
2.0 stuff was causing issues with both Windows and Linux, maybe it's worth 
updating the BIOS, outside of that I don't really know what to suggest and 
will have to leave it for somebody with more FreeBSD experience to answer.


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[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Shuttle AMD64]

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef
Just booted my AMD64 system with the install CD from the link above 
and got into sysinstall no problem, booted the kernel (with ACPI) and 
could see all hardware being detected nicely.


I remember when I first had the system that I had to flash the BIOS as 
the USB 2.0 stuff was causing issues with both Windows and Linux, 
maybe it's worth updating the BIOS, outside of that I don't really 
know what to suggest and will have to leave it for somebody with more 
FreeBSD experience to answer.


Have you tried it with ACPI enabled?  I think it's option 2 on the menu.
You'll be needing that enabled for the system anyway.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Shuttle AMD64

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef
Just booted my AMD64 system with the install CD from the link above 
and got into sysinstall no problem, booted the kernel (with ACPI) and 
could see all hardware being detected nicely.


I remember when I first had the system that I had to flash the BIOS as 
the USB 2.0 stuff was causing issues with both Windows and Linux, 
maybe it's worth updating the BIOS, outside of that I don't really 
know what to suggest and will have to leave it for somebody with more 
FreeBSD experience to answer.


Have you tried it with ACPI enabled?  I think it's option 2 on the menu.
You'll be needing that enabled for the system anyway.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Shuttle AMD64

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef

Jean-Baptiste Potonnier wrote:

Crispy Beef wrote:

Just booted my AMD64 system with the install CD from the link above 
and got into sysinstall no problem, booted the kernel (with ACPI) 
and could see all hardware being detected nicely.


I remember when I first had the system that I had to flash the BIOS 
as the USB 2.0 stuff was causing issues with both Windows and Linux, 
maybe it's worth updating the BIOS, outside of that I don't really 
know what to suggest and will have to leave it for somebody with 
more FreeBSD experience to answer.





Have you tried it with ACPI enabled?  I think it's option 2 on the 
menu. You'll be needing that enabled for the system anyway.


Do you talk about the BIOS menu? because I have no menu in the installer 
(if fact I think I'm not in the installer but in a mini-shell for 
loading a kernel)




When the install CD boots, you normally get presented with a menu (same on an 
installed FreeBSD system) which allows you to choose to boot the system with; 
1) ACPI Disabled 2) ACPI Enabled...a safe mode etc. etc.  If you are not 
getting to that then it sound like you might be at the loader console.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Shuttle AMD64

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef


When the install CD boots, you normally get presented with a menu 
(same on an installed FreeBSD system) which allows you to choose to 
boot the system with; 1) ACPI Disabled 2) ACPI Enabled...a safe mode 
etc. etc.  If you are not getting to that then it sound like you might 
be at the loader console




.



Ok,  I think so,
but it seems I can't load anything!



Try typing 'autoload' and then hitting return to see what that does, it should 
start to load a kernel.

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Compiling Ports...

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef
Am trying to get my head around the ports system, specifically custom options 
when compiling.  For example I would like to install apache 2.2 under it's own 
dir in /usr/local, say /usr/local/apache22.  If I was rolling my own version 
using the configure script I would do:


./configure prefix=/usr/local/apache22

With that everything would go into that dir, bin files, confs etc. etc.

I understand how to make use of the options stuff WITH_ WITHOUT etc. it's just 
the installation prefix that's bugging me.


Have I messed something simple here?

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Re: Compiling Ports...

2006-01-05 Thread Crispy Beef

Michael P. Soulier wrote:

On 1/5/06, Crispy Beef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Am trying to get my head around the ports system, specifically custom options
when compiling.  For example I would like to install apache 2.2 under it's own
dir in /usr/local, say /usr/local/apache22.  If I was rolling my own version
using the configure script I would do:

./configure prefix=/usr/local/apache22



I believe the default prefix can be changed, but I'm unclear as to why
you would want to change it. The port installs a package that you can
then remove easily with the pkg tools. Why would you want to do this?


Mainly as having Apache in it's own directory with all of it's files together 
makes it nice and easy to administer, when I compile stuff from scratch I 
always like to keep things clean, for example:


/usr/local/php-5.1.1
/usr/local/mysql-5
/usr/local/apache13
/usr/local/apache22

I'm not too bothered having it all put in the default locations specified by 
the port, my Gentoo system does this in the same way, just wondered if there 
was a clean way to do it. :-)

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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-04 Thread Crispy Beef

Nikolas Britton wrote:

On 1/3/06, Crispy Beef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Jonathan Chen wrote:


On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 04:15:48PM +, Crispy Beef wrote:



Hi All,

Just joined this list.  The last time I used FreeBSD was with 4.6-RELEASE,
so a while ago now.  I have just installed 6.0-RELEASE on my old laptop and
have been configuring the system, am onto the kernel at the moment, have
followed the traditional method in the FreeBSD handbook.  All works fine
(make depends) until I do 'make' then I get a compilation error as follows:


/usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atapci/../../../dev/ata/ata-chipset.c:617:
internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.



Internal compiler errors usually indicate faulty memory. If you rerun
your compilation and it fails in the same spot, then it could be
software. If the compilations fails in a different area, you've
probably got faulty hardward.


It's looking very much like faulty hardware at the moment...bit of a shame
really.  Have used Gentoo Linux on this machine before (compiling from source)
and that's always worked just fine, I only ditched it a couple of weeks ago to
have a play with FreeBSD again.

Also tried the memtest86 util from a floppy, that doesn't even boot properly
so looks like it might be a no go.  :-/




To rule out hardware problems rebuild the generic kernel using the
virgin GENERIC kernel config file:

0. If you've messed with /etc/make.conf change it back to the defaults!
1. su
2. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
3. rm -r ../compile/GENERIC
4. config GENERIC
5. cd ../compile/GENERIC
6. make depend
7. make
8. make install
9. reboot

If you can't get to step 8 you have a hardware problem (or FreeBSD
wasn't installed correctly, see step 5 below):

(Very Basic/Limited Flow chart)

1. Go into the BIOS and reset everything to their safety defaults
etc., repeat generic kernel build and if it's successful...

2. Pull the Mem, Hard drive, etc. clean/dust/etc. Reinsert etc.,
repeat generic kernel build and if it's successful...

3. Sub Out/Replace Memory, repeat generic kernel build...

4. Wipe (zero out) Hard Drive and Reinstall a virgin copy of FreeBSD 6 from CD:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/6.0/6.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
MD5 (6.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso) = cfe3c1a2b4991edd6a294ca9b422b9d5
Check the MD5 hash before you burn the disc and verify the disc after
it's burned. Hit A then Q for FDISK and Disklabel and Install only
the Kern-Developer Distribution set, don't install the ports system.
repeat generic kernel build...  Oh... and run a defective sector scan
of the hard drive using the diag disk that came with it, you can find
the zero out and diag software on the UBCD CD link below.

5. If you've done steps 1 - 4 and still can't build the kernel your
system is broke, I'll take it off your hands if you'd like. :-)
Also... you may want to start with step 4 then do 1, 2, and 3.


Thanks for all the tips, am trying to compile the GENERIC kernel as I type 
this so will see what happens there, I had tried my own kernel config with and 
without a few settings in make.conf but it's reset back to what it was at the 
moment.


Have also located the final version of BIOS so will flash that too to see if 
it helps with anything.


Will let you know how it goes.

Cheers.
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Re: How long to compile...

2006-01-04 Thread Crispy Beef
I guess the 4.5 kernel was a lot less complex as that compiles quite quickly 
on my old P120 firewall box.  Cheers for the info.


Paul

Rowdy wrote:

Crispy Beef wrote:


Hi,

This is kind of related to my other post (Kernel Compilation), but 
thought I'd post it seperately as it would be interesting to know...


Was wondering on average how long building userland and the kernel for 
6.0-RELEASE should take on a 466MHz Celeron machine with 128Mb RAM?


The only frame of reference I have is building 4.5-RELEASE on an 
ancient P120 system with next to nothing on it (gateway/firewall box).



Cheers,

Paul



On a Celeron 466 with 256M RAM, I upgraded from 5.3 to 6.0.

make buildworld took around 5 hours 37 minutes.

make kernel took around 1 hour 25 minutes.

Rowdy
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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-04 Thread Crispy Beef

Nikolas Britton wrote:

To rule out hardware problems rebuild the generic kernel using the
virgin GENERIC kernel config file:

0. If you've messed with /etc/make.conf change it back to the defaults!
1. su
2. cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
3. rm -r ../compile/GENERIC
4. config GENERIC
5. cd ../compile/GENERIC
6. make depend
7. make
8. make install
9. reboot

If you can't get to step 8 you have a hardware problem (or FreeBSD
wasn't installed correctly, see step 5 below):


First time I tried this I had another seg fault (error 11) so did a complete 
install from the CD again (kernel developer options).  It failed once during 
that compile, then the second time it worked just fine.  I then did my own 
config cutting out all the stuff I don't need and it's compiled just fine. 
Strange...


Thinking about it, this is the only time I've got the sources from the CD.  I 
always grabbed them from an ftpe server via sysinstall, maybe the newer 
sources were causing problems like the guys mentioned earlier?


Got a version of MemTest86 running too and that went for a couple of hours 
without any errors showing up, will run it overnight to be sure.


I guess the next thing is to have a go at make buildworld with options in 
make.conf and see if it barfs then.


Thanks for the help. :-)

Paul
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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-03 Thread Crispy Beef

Robert Huff wrote:

Crispy Beef writes:



I wasn't aware that I needed to do a buildworld too, am limited
on the amount of disk space I have, the whole disk is 6Gb with a
1Gb /home and over 3Gb /usr.  Is that going to be enough?



1) It is _very_ important to keep the kernel and userland in
sync.
	2) 


huff@ du -s /usr/src
442996  /usr/src

As a ball-park estimate, figure 1Gb when you need to update.
Assuming you have a high-speed connection, I would rebuild
world and kernel per the handbook.  After installing and testing the
new system I would save the kernel config file elsewhere and delete
/usr/src and /usr/obj.  THe next time you need to rebuild you'll
need to clear the disk and download the entire source tree, but
you'll have the disk available until then.


Basically I had just installed 6.0-RELEASE from the CD, got the kernel sources 
 from an ftp server (using sysinstall) and then proceded to build the kernel 
as I mentioned in another post (traditional method).  Basically you're saying 
I should grab the entire source tree and then build everything before the 
kernel?  Just checking before I go ahead...having said that as it's a clean 
install there's nothing too vital on the system so won't matter to much if I 
trash it.

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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-03 Thread Crispy Beef

Jonathan Chen wrote:

On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 04:15:48PM +, Crispy Beef wrote:


Hi All,

Just joined this list.  The last time I used FreeBSD was with 4.6-RELEASE, 
so a while ago now.  I have just installed 6.0-RELEASE on my old laptop and 
have been configuring the system, am onto the kernel at the moment, have 
followed the traditional method in the FreeBSD handbook.  All works fine 
(make depends) until I do 'make' then I get a compilation error as follows:



/usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atapci/../../../dev/ata/ata-chipset.c:617:
internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.



Internal compiler errors usually indicate faulty memory. If you rerun
your compilation and it fails in the same spot, then it could be
software. If the compilations fails in a different area, you've
probably got faulty hardward.


It's looking very much like faulty hardware at the moment...bit of a shame 
really.  Have used Gentoo Linux on this machine before (compiling from source) 
and that's always worked just fine, I only ditched it a couple of weeks ago to 
have a play with FreeBSD again.


Also tried the memtest86 util from a floppy, that doesn't even boot properly 
so looks like it might be a no go.  :-/


Cheers.
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How long to compile...

2006-01-03 Thread Crispy Beef

Hi,

This is kind of related to my other post (Kernel Compilation), but thought I'd 
post it seperately as it would be interesting to know...


Was wondering on average how long building userland and the kernel for 
6.0-RELEASE should take on a 466MHz Celeron machine with 128Mb RAM?


The only frame of reference I have is building 4.5-RELEASE on an ancient P120 
system with next to nothing on it (gateway/firewall box).



Cheers,

Paul

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Re: How long to compile...

2006-01-03 Thread Crispy Beef

Was wondering on average how long building userland and the
kernel for 6.0-RELEASE should take on a 466MHz Celeron machine
with 128Mb RAM?



Many hours.  :-(
For comparison: it takes ~1h45 on a P4/2.25ghz with 512mb.  I
seem to remember the 500mhz Celeron being an overnight or all-day
job.


Oh well, at least it's a second machine and I can let it go.

Cheers.
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Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-02 Thread Crispy Beef

Hi All,

Just joined this list.  The last time I used FreeBSD was with 4.6-RELEASE, so 
a while ago now.  I have just installed 6.0-RELEASE on my old laptop and have 
been configuring the system, am onto the kernel at the moment, have followed 
the traditional method in the FreeBSD handbook.  All works fine (make depends) 
until I do 'make' then I get a compilation error as follows:



/usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atapci/../../../dev/ata/ata-chipset.c:617:
internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atapci.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/ata.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/LAPTOP.


Last time I had an error with USB Mass Storage do I disabled it in my config 
hoping the kernel would compile, am starting to think this is something a bit 
more serious.


Any thoughts?

--
Paul
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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-02 Thread Crispy Beef



Robert Slade wrote:

On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 16:15, Crispy Beef wrote:


Hi All,

Just joined this list.  The last time I used FreeBSD was with 4.6-RELEASE, so 
a while ago now.  I have just installed 6.0-RELEASE on my old laptop and have 
been configuring the system, am onto the kernel at the moment, have followed 
the traditional method in the FreeBSD handbook.  All works fine (make depends) 
until I do 'make' then I get a compilation error as follows:



/usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atapci/../../../dev/ata/ata-chipset.c:617:
internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atapci.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/ata.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/LAPTOP.


Last time I had an error with USB Mass Storage do I disabled it in my config 
hoping the kernel would compile, am starting to think this is something a bit 
more serious.


Any thoughts?

--
Paul



Paul,

Welcome.

If you will take some advise from a 'newbe' I suggest that you use the
new method - I have done a kernel compile quite a few times with no
problems using it.

The only time I had problems with compiling was when I got the config
file wrong. I did find that after a failed compile I needed to clear out
the old obj libraries before trying again.

Rob


Will take advice from anybody. :-)

Whenever I have a failed compile I generally do a 'make cleandepends' and make 
clean first just to make sure it's all going from scratch.  Might try the new 
method later and see if that gives me better results.


Cheers.

Paul
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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-02 Thread Crispy Beef



Adam Nealis wrote:

--- Crispy Beef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi All,

Just joined this list.  The last time I used FreeBSD was with 4.6-RELEASE, so 
a while ago now.  I have just installed 6.0-RELEASE on my old laptop and have 
been configuring the system, am onto the kernel at the moment, have followed 
the traditional method in the FreeBSD handbook.  All works fine (make depends) 



Yesterday I installed 6.0-RELEASE from ISO, then used cvsup to upgrade
to 6.0-STABLE. I followed the steps given in /usr/src/Makefile:

1.  `cd /usr/src'   (or to the directory containing your source tree).
2.  `make buildworld'
3.  `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC).
4.  `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE'   (default is GENERIC).
5.  `reboot'(in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt).
6.  `mergemaster -p'
7.  `make installworld'
8.  `mergemaster'
9.  `reboot'

Is this what you did? Can youprovide the precise steps you followed?




Here's what I did:

1.Install from CD (6.0-RELEASE)
2.Got latest kernel src with sysinstall
3.cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
4.Created my own config file (LAPTOP)
5.Did a /usr/sbin/config LAPTOP
6.Moved into compile directory (/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/LAPTOP)
7.Did 'make depend'
8.make

At this point it failed...

This machine has run Linux for the past few months compiling various things.
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Re: Kernel Compilation...

2006-01-02 Thread Crispy Beef



Adam Nealis wrote:

*snip*



Here's what I did:

1.Install from CD (6.0-RELEASE)
2.Got latest kernel src with sysinstall



Hmm. cvsup might be better. Having said that, when I cvsup'd 6.0-RELEASE
after installing from CD, there were only one or two files updated. But
my version went from 6.0-RELEASE to 6.0-RELEASE-p1.

The other thing is you don't appear to have run buildworld. This step
uses the 6.0-RELEASE source in /usr/src to build userland and gcc and
so on. I'm not sure, but I think you have to use the compilation tools
from buildworld to create your new kernel.


I wasn't aware that I needed to do a buildworld too, am limited on the amount 
of disk space I have, the whole disk is 6Gb with a 1Gb /home and over 3Gb 
/usr.  Is that going to be enough?  /tmp and /var are quite small.


Will go through the Makefile and see what happens this time round.





3.cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
4.Created my own config file (LAPTOP)
5.Did a /usr/sbin/config LAPTOP
6.Moved into compile directory (/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/LAPTOP)
7.Did 'make depend'



Did you do

make cleandepend; make depend ?


Yes, did that too.





8.make

At this point it failed...



I'd be inclined to start from the beginning, going through the steps
given in usr/src/Makefile


Will do, cheers.

Paul
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