Re: PartitionMagic question
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Iavor Raytchev wrote: When I run PartitionMagic it reported 3 errors - different LBA and CHS values - the errors are on the first sector of the FreeBSD partitions and on the first sectors of the next two partitions (seeing from the LBA). PartitionMagic says in all 3 cases that the LBA and CHS values are different. In all 3 cases the CHS value is the same - 15483887 (drive geometry is 5168/240/63). After PartitionMagic repairs the errors everything is OK. Both OS boot well. My questions are - a) does somebody know why the errors appear? b) is the installation safe after the errors are fixed? I can't tell you why PM reports these errors except to say that it has done it to me on every disk I have ever used it on (all of 3 :-)). However, I always choose to ignore PM and *not* let it fix anything. Everything works perfectly for me without being fixed so I'd rather not take the risk. --Alex Yes, I forgot to mention that it happens every time - all 3 (I did the installation about a dozen times). OK it's good to know that I am not the only one with the problem. I'll take the opposite approach and let them fixed (I am still just playing) so that we can make also the other experience. Thanks nevertheless. Iavor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PartitionMagic question
Garrett Cooper wrote: I'll take the opposite approach and let them fixed (I am still just playing) so that we can make also the other experience. Iavor Something I've learned: Letting PM actually 'fix' an issue with a non-standard Windows based MBR is _not_ a good idea. That's toasted several grub installs of mine as well as other things. So, if everything works, such that all partitions are usable as they should be, one should leave them well enough alone. Partition Magic can't keep up with the large degree of FS'es/configurations, so in many cases it in fact behind in development on the Unix support end by a large degree. -Garrett I am not sure I understand the MBR part. I left the NTLDR to handle the dual boot (by copying boot1 to C: and adding a line to boot.ini) as ThinkPad has special boot loader that can boot from the restore partition by pressing F11 at boot time. I could not make another boot loader to boot the restore partition. It is somehow special. So the MBR is standard. I can see the point about PartitionMagic not understanding many FS'es/configurations. PM marks partitions it does not understand in yellow (other). Just I was wondering why after creating the FreeBSD partition with the partition utility that is part of the FreeBSD installation process - PartitionMagic found problems outside the FreeBSD partition. Isn't the partitions table kind of international territory where FreeBSD should touch only its own land? Is there a tool for management of mixed NTFS, FreeBSD and FAT32 partitions without such headaches or one should just get used to live with them? It is hard to add second HDD to a laptop... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PartitionMagic question
Basically just ignore the errors with non-Windows partitions in *nix operated territory. If you have any issues with those, your OS will complain about that for you :). -Garrett That's a good rule. Though I still wonder why after FreeBSD has touched the partitions table, PartitionMagic finds errors outside the *nix territory. It is somehow irritating to ignore errors all the time. I can see that FreeBSD is made on first place to live alone, but it would be nicer if it could live together with other OS in peace. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PartitionMagic question
Though I still wonder why after FreeBSD has touched the partitions table, PartitionMagic finds errors outside the *nix territory. It is somehow irritating to ignore errors all the time. I can see that FreeBSD is made on first place to live alone, but it would be nicer if it could live together with other OS in peace. Yeah, but if everything works, why mess with it? PM is overly-verbose in this case and has a tendency to misunderstand what's going on. NOTE: Do not try what I have down below if it wants to 'play' with any FreeBSD partitions! Also, if you _don't_ have the latest version of PM and/or are running this on XP SP2, you may completely bork some of your Windows partitions so please consider doing what I suggest with extreme caution! If you really want to see what happens, what I suggest-before trying this-is to make a bootdisk of FreeBSD and the PM bootdisk, then test it by confirming and rebooting. Most likely you'll have an issue booting into one OS or another, but if that's true you can boot to your XP CD and just reload the ntloader into the MBR and you'll be fine. I'm just suggesting making FreeBSD/PM bootdisks just in case. -Garrett Hm... This is somehow too shadowy and time intensive (to reproduce the errors I need to reinstall FreeBSD). Hey Garrett, thank you for exploring the issue with me! I'll leave it as it is for now (with the errors fixed by PM) and just use it to see how is it going. Both OS'es boot fine and it starts to feel as a waste of time to dig deeper into the it. Perhaps in future there will be bits and pieces that will assemble themselves into a proper answer. Thanks a lot again, really :) Iavor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PartitionMagic question
I am installing FreeBSD on a laptop with Windows XP Pro. I created empty space with PartitionMagic and installed FreeBSD there making the FreeBSD partition with the FreeBSD partition utility in the install. I took the drive geometry from PartitionMagic as the BIOS does not tell it (ThinkPad X30). The installation went well and both OS boot well. When I run PartitionMagic it reported 3 errors - different LBA and CHS values - the errors are on the first sector of the FreeBSD partitions and on the first sectors of the next two partitions (seeing from the LBA). PartitionMagic says in all 3 cases that the LBA and CHS values are different. In all 3 cases the CHS value is the same - 15483887 (drive geometry is 5168/240/63). After PartitionMagic repairs the errors everything is OK. Both OS boot well. My questions are - a) does somebody know why the errors appear? b) is the installation safe after the errors are fixed? PartitionMagic is listed officially as installation preparation utility and I assume it should be safe to use it afterwards, apart from touching the FreeBSD partition. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ThinkPad X30 installation problem
On Wed, June 15, 2005 10:51 pm, fbsd_user said: yea quite using PartitionMagic. instead use Freebsd fdisk to allocate partition for XP at front of disk and then install xp there. After that then install Freebsd in remaining freespace and select option to install boot manager. Don't even think of running PartitionMagic. Thanks a lot! (As this came directly to me, I reply back to the list for reference purposes). ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ThinkPad X30 installation problem
Hello, I have some problems installing FreeBSD 5.4 on ThinkPad X30. I boot from floppy and install from a DOS partition. The problem is somewhere around the drive geometry. FreeBSD says that the geometry 77520/16/63 does not seem right and that more likely 4864/255/63 will be used. The manual says I should use the BIOS geometry, but on X30 I could not find it anywhere in the BIOS. So I used the geometry which PartitionMagic reports and which I found also in one other article about installing FreeBSD on X30 - 5168/240/63. The install moves on and everything seems fine until I reboot in Windows XP Pro and start PartitionMagic. I repeated the installation around dozen times installing FreeBSD on different places - before and after Windows XP Pro, within the first 1024, etc. In all cases the installation moves on successfully but then PartitionMagic reports between 1 and 3 errors - different LBA and CHS numbers somewhere, which it insists on fixing by applying the LBA number. If I allow PartitionMagic to fix them - the result is always different. Sometimes everything is OK, sometimes it says 'backup all data and reformat the drive', which required full system reinstall (incl. Windows) and in some cases first I had to delete the FreeBSD partition with the DOS FDISK as PartitionMagic refused to do anything and the IBM system recovery refused to take off. Could anybody tell me what am I doing wrong? Is it wrong to use PartitionMagic in general after FreeBSD is installed or is it something else? Thanks, Iavor ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ThinkPad X30 installation problem
What is the purpose of using PartitionMagic after the install? Are you able to boot into FreeBSD and Windows? If so, then I fail to see the problem, if not, then what errors are you getting. Hi Bob, thank you for your note. There is no FreeBSD related purpose to use PartitionMagic. I am in process of making FreeBSD the primarily operating system to use, and as I should keep Windows for certain cases, I am still trying to figure out how much HDD will be needed for what. I have no problem if I should not use PartitionMagic after FreeBSD has been installed, I just need to know if this is the case. Yes, I can boot into both FreeBSD and Windows. I can't recall the errors completely but the essence of all of them is that certain sector (?) has different LBA and CHS and that PartitionMagic has determined that the LBA value is correct, so it wants to fix it. I can understand if PartitionMagic does not understand FreeBSD partitions and this causes the problem. I can assume that there might be something with that as PartitionMagic can deal for example with ext2 and ext3 partitions, but not with FreeBSD partitions. Is the rule of thumb on dual boot Windows XP/FreeBSD systems - 'do not touch the partitions anymore' or? Iavor ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webmail Selection Setup Configuration
I am looking at setting up a webmail solution on my server and I would like to ask a few questions: ... 2 - Any highly recommended solutions? Horde / SquirellMail / others? We use Squirrelmail for 2-3 years for 50+ domains and 500+ e-mail accounts and it behaves very well. There are quite interesting plug-ins for Squirrelmail. 3 - Are there good *detailed* resources available that provide procedures on how to set up a webmail system and the required / recommended components. Squirrelmail has very nice IRC where you can ask questions - see on the web site www.squirrelmail.org - irc.freenode... and then #squirrelmail. Iavor ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
