Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering (Repost from -ports@)
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Repost from [EMAIL PROTECTED] As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the following broad questions for people: 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? Underlying OS. 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is the most common interaction you have with it? Daily. Updating. 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? Easy to implement ports. 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? Slow rebuild of portupgrade database (much improved in recent versions). 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? In my experience, people from a Windoze background don't understand dependencies at all. Everything just happens under the hood during the install. This gives the impression that installing software works better under Windoze, but this impression is false. Dependency bugs (in the form of inconsistent/out-dated DLLs) have been a source of instability since the beginning. 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? Yes. 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? However, to be acceptable, porting software into the build environment as to be at least as easy as it is now. In fact, porting is far more important than installing. 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? This is my 8th year. 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? Development, port maintenance, writing (desktop applications). 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred installation method for 3rd party software? In the best of all possible worlds, installs would be self-contained (they would install correctly on the target with no intervention from the user). In the real world, I want 3rd party software to follow the ports system (whatever it may be). If 3rd part software does NOT track the ports systems, all manner of difficult-to-debug bugs will propagate. 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the importance of the following aspects of the ports system? a. User Interface a = 4 (but see GNOME, KDE, and Webmin) b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions b = 8 c. Accuracy in dependant port installations c = 10 d. Internal record keeping d = 6 e. Granularity's of the port management system e = 8 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? High. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVBBj358R5LPuPvsRArclAKC8fVFVsva2DPmOQdTWw+/CT+wGywCfWvPl hbX2FSUdh6C61xTDJqnWf/M= =iCiu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla + realplay plugin: how to get this work?
As a note, the current version of www/plugger no longer has a long dependency chain. By popular demand, I've moved the helper applications to a separate (and as yet, uncommitted) port. jmc Palle Girgensohn wrote: The realplayer plugin only works with a linux mozilla binary. I suggest you use www/plugger, works with native fbsd mozilla. It starts realplayer as an application by default, not as a plugin, and honestly, this is what you want. Plugins suck for video or audio, it is a bad idea IMHO. If you want plugin, you can configure it for that, I believe. Plugger works by using external programs and open them either in an X window inside mozilla, or just starting them through a forked /bin/sh. It supports over 50 different mime types, starting different progs. Hence, the dependcy list in the port is fairly long, perhaps you can some off if you don't want it all... /palle --On fredag 19 mars 2004 09.37 +0900 Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have installed on STABLE PC: mozilla-1.6_3,2 linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_1 linuxpluginwrapper-20040310_1 mplayerplug-in-2.45 linux-realplayer-8.cs2_4 I have following in /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins : raclass.zip - /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer8/raclass.zip rpnp.so - /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer8/rpnp.so To no avail; realplay plugin does not work with mozilla. Any more hints? Thanks, Rob. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to configure Wireless access with WEP on a laptop AND use DHCPin/etc/rc.conf
I've discovered the wonderful world of wireless Internet access on my FreeBSD laptop (an IBM Thinkpad 380XD running 4.8-STABLE), but I have a problem. Configuring the interface to do both DHCP and initialize with all the WEP parameters seems to be mutually exclusive. I've worked around it by putting in a dummy static IP and netmask and then running dhclient wi0 manually, but I'd prefer to automate things somewhat so that when wi0 comes up (I put the PC Card in) it initializes with the WEP stuff AND does DHCP. So, currently, my configuration line looks like: ifconfig_wi0=inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid some-ssid wepmode on wepkey some-128-bit-key And it works fine, provided I run dhclient manually. But I can't just replace the dummies with DHCP (been there, it doesn't work). How should I do this? jmc ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
