serial connection
hello everyone, i need to establish a connection between 2 freebsd systems, but i have to this over a serial line, any advices? thank you all so much! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cksum entire dir??
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 22:29:45 Gary Kline wrote: how, with mtree, could I tell whether dir1 == dir2 or not? From the manpage: ``The mtree utility compares the file hierarchy rooted in the current directory against a specification read from the standard input. Messages are written to the standard output for any files whose characteristics do not match the specifications, or which are missing from either the file hierarchy or the specification.'' So you run mtree twice, once against dir1 with the -c option to output the specification for the directory tree to stdout (which you can capture to a file, or pipe straight into the second invocation) and once against dir2 with the output of the first one as input (either in a pipeline, or by using -f with the filename of the captured output). Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cksum entire dir??
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 08:31:45 Matthew Seaman wrote: On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote: % cksum directory [snip] That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and associated metadata only, not file content. [snip] Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...' Wouldn't suitable applications of mtree(8) also do what's wanted? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem
On Wednesday 22 August 2012 15:41:05 David Jackson wrote: So this is clearly not about portability, FreeBSD is free to implement these software interfaces to assure that software is portable to FreeBSD. Really? You make software portable by writing it to one environment and then changing every other environment to suit the software? I'm not sure software portability means what you think it means. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flaming mailing lists (was Re: Why Clang)
On Friday 22 June 2012 07:04:35 Bernt Hansson wrote: I want to whish all a very mery Midsummer's Eve and Midsummer's Day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsummer#Sweden I appreciate the sentiment but it's midwinter here ;) Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Flaming mailing lists (was Re: Why Clang)
On Wednesday 20 June 2012 12:59:51 Stephen Cook wrote: On 6/19/2012 4:06 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: [snip childish invective] I'm a relative newcomer. Are the FreeBSD mailing lists always this flame-y? I realize that this particular post might be trolling / satire No, they aren't. And I notice that whoever is primarily responsible for it isn't even prepared to sign his own name to his tirades - he (or she) is using anonymous remailers. (Irritatingly this makes him difficult to killfile - it turns out there's at least one recent legitimate post that's been sent through a similar remailer so I can't just toss them all away). Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: log error..
On 4/1/2012 3:21 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun Apr 1 01:46:26 2012 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:01:31 +0700 (WIT) From: jangkawij...@students.itb.ac.id To: questionsquesti...@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: log error.. [ snip numerous syslog messages indicating incorrect zone file syntax ] can somene help me ?? can some help me to selve this thanks Since you seen incapable of reading and following the directions for creating properly formatted BIND zone files, even after having been directed to those resoures after your prior post, the best advice is for you to either: 1) Hire a knowledgable professional to set it up for you. -or- 2) Contract with a knowledgable operator to host your zones on *their* servers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org LOL. Well said. Read docs and then ask for help, otherwise dont read docs and hire someone who knows what they are doing versus someone who doesnt care to learn. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Question regarding SPF records
I am inquiring about how to setup a proper SPF record. I know there are SPF wizards/generators available but each seem to have a different opinion of what should be included and what should not be included. Let me give you a scenario of my setup, and hopefully someone can help me out. My domain is: test.com My mailserver hostname is: mail.host.com which also has a MATCHING PTR record mail.host.com (for example) resolves to 50.1.1.1 and 50.1.1.1 resolves to mail.host.com This is a STANDALONE mail server which will receive and send email without any VIP's or load balancing. There is however one additional host that will send out mail from the domain but it wont be receiving mail, it will only be used as an SMTP (outbound only) server attached to a website automailer which is on a seperate webserver... It only generates error reports and sends them out... so technically it isn't a full mail server but it will be sending (outbound only) mail on behalf of the domain. The additional host is: mail2.test.com which resolves to 50.2.2.2 and there is a Matching PTR. These are the ONLY mail servers and IP addresses that will be sending out mail from the test.com domain. Some websites say I should use -all and others say -all will cause some MTA's to reject and ~all is better to use even if those are the only two hosts sending out mail. Would you be able to assist with a solid SPF record? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Question regarding SPF records
On 2/18/2012 12:18 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: On Feb 18, 2012 8:53 AM, Jonathan Vomacka juvi...@gmail.com mailto:juvi...@gmail.com wrote: I am inquiring about how to setup a proper SPF record. I know there are SPF wizards/generators available but each seem to have a different opinion of what should be included and what should not be included. Let me give you a scenario of my setup, and hopefully someone can help me out. My domain is: test.com http://test.com My mailserver hostname is: mail.host.com http://mail.host.com which also has a MATCHING PTR record mail.host.com http://mail.host.com (for example) resolves to 50.1.1.1 and 50.1.1.1 resolves to mail.host.com http://mail.host.com This is a STANDALONE mail server which will receive and send email without any VIP's or load balancing. There is however one additional host that will send out mail from the domain but it wont be receiving mail, it will only be used as an SMTP (outbound only) server attached to a website automailer which is on a seperate webserver... It only generates error reports and sends them out... so technically it isn't a full mail server but it will be sending (outbound only) mail on behalf of the domain. The additional host is: mail2.test.com http://mail2.test.com which resolves to 50.2.2.2 and there is a Matching PTR. These are the ONLY mail servers and IP addresses that will be sending out mail from the test.com http://test.com domain. Some websites say I should use -all and others say -all will cause some MTA's to reject and ~all is better to use even if those are the only two hosts sending out mail. Would you be able to assist with a solid SPF record? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I usually choose soft fail because a user might decide to use a mobile device for email. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA Waitman, Fair enough statement. I also generated the following SPF using a wizard. Let me know if this looks correct: teamwarfare.com. IN TXT v=spf1 a mx a:mail.teamwarfare.com a:mail2.teamwarfare.com ip4:66.90.73.80 ip4:216.250.250.148 ~all I wouldn't need an include: or ptr statement in this right? I would told include: was to include OTHER domains that are allowed to send e-mail, but then again I see some people writing the domain again as an include. Also is PTR good to use or not? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: swap space
On Feb 17, 2012 6:55 PM, Jim Pazarena fqu...@paz.bz wrote: is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? A df seems to avoid the swap area. This would be on a live production server. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Top or vmstat ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for SEO / Website Design Work
On Feb 13, 2012 10:48 AM, Shrikansh seoshrika...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am a SEO Specialist from India looking for a job in the field of Internet marketing . I have 4 years experience with SEO, Website Design and development. I would like to work remotely from my present location in India and help your organization with SEO and website design .I am specialized in Organic SEO. My other skills include HTML, CSS, Photoshop, Dream weaver, flash, Joomla and Word Press and PPC. My monthly wage expectation is 800 USD Per month for fulltime work ie for 160Hrs or 400 USD for part time work. I can help you in handling seo projects for all your clients. Looking forward to discussing this job opportunity further and how I can contribute to the success of your esteemed organization. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Shrikansh e-mail - - seoshrika...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org This is not the mailing list for advertisements ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fixating USB Storage
On Feb 4, 2012 4:54 AM, Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk wrote: On Saturday 04 February 2012, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: I don't know if anyone else has already mentioned it to you in response to this question, but I just very recently switched over to using volume labels to mount my partitions instead of device names. I was having an ongoing issue where this external USB drive's device number assignment would change from one boot to the next, toggling back and forth between da0 and da4 (strange!). Sounds similar to my experience. Normally my internal 4 slot memory card reader is assigned devices da[0-3] and when the USB memory stick is inserted it comes up as da4. If the USB stick is present on booting then it appears as da0 and the card reader is da[1-4]. So it looks like occupied slots are given priority when numbers are assigned at boot time. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Do you know if it is different with zfs system? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9
On Jan 18, 2012 9:37 PM, Allan McKinnon mckin...@live.com wrote: I finally got to install FreeBSD 9 onto my computer and noticed that the installer is now different. It seems to me that it forces you into doing extra steps that I was comfortable doing on my own. I really enjoyed the old installer because then I had complete control over how I tweaked my computer during and after the install. I am surprised that there is no gui present while installing FreeBSD because it feels more like Ubuntu or a windows install (somewhat). Please, please, please take this nightmare away and bring the beloved installer that was before FreeBSD 9. Thank you for listening. Allan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I am going to have to agree. The new installer is terrible ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: booting
On Dec 17, 2011 9:04 AM, Maxime-Etienne de Gier maxime.etie...@gmx.com wrote: I am really interested in Freebsd or PC-BSD but unfortunately every time when I download an ISO of either of them and try to boot up (from the DVD-ROM) my machine will not boot up (Laptop PackardBell). Any insight? Thanks and much regard. Maxime. -- Maxime-Etienne de Gier maxime.etie...@gmx.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Any errors? What is the experience when you try to boot? We can not map a problem to an entire manufacturer since the only mentioned was that it was a Packard bell. I know this might sound like a stupid question, but did you verify the md5sum of the download before you burned the iso?. please give us detailed information so we can help you out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Free BSD Website Question
Absolutely not On Nov 23, 2011 4:54 PM, Frank fr...@webhosting.net wrote: Hey FreeBSD, I saw that you had a list of web hosting providers on your website and wondered if you would consider adding WebHosting.net to your list. http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html We have been around since 1998 and focus on more advanced hosting needs like cloud hosting, exchange hosting, and dedicated servers. We have recently launched a new version of our site and are also doing a bit of a push to have more people try our service. If you would consider adding us to your list we would be incredibly grateful and please let me know if you’d like any more information about WebHosting.net. -Frank Anderson *webhosting.net* reliable. scalable. secure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Turning system accounting data into money
Ever heard of bold_or_underline? On Oct 11, 2011 10:06 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: This is _not_ a spam message trying to sell something stupid to the list. I'm just searching for a solution to turn consumed computing resources into a number and a currency symbol. :-) Reason: A growing amount of (my) customers seems to like this concept: They speed a low fee for access to systems and applications, and they want to pay according to what they did with that system. The access fee covers access and some basic services (backup quota), and for anything more advanced they want to be charged per units used, or per consumed resources. This can be dialog time (SSH), disk I/O, disk occupied, pages printed (can happen) or pages required to print on exceptional specific forms (can happen once or twice a year and is charged with an additional fee for fold, staple mutilate). Sounds stupid? I have _real_ customers intendedly requesting that payment model (instead of just pay amount n Euro a month and do whatever you like). Accidentally, I remembered history. So I thought: This funcitonality has been present on UNIX systems for many decades. But _how_ to use it? I know there's the command set for accounting, for example the ac command. But what does its output total 7264.15 mean? There also are acct (process accounting), sa (for system accounting) and pac (for printer accounting, just dooesn't seem to work with CUPS). I'd also like to use the /etc/csh.logout resp. ~/.logout mechanism. When a user logs in, he will be presented the program he uses (or a menu, in case he uses different ones). This can also be a regular remote desktop session. When he logs out, a message should be displayed that informs him how much will be charged for the session. At the end of the month, he should get an invoice with the proper accumulated amount. For example, if a user wishes to issue a make a backup _now_, because I intendedly want _this_ current state backed up _now_, this will be seen as additional I/O load and disk occupation (because it's handled aside of the regular backup runs that should be part of the basic package charged with the conneciton fee). Or as I said, he issues printing for stuff he cannot print at home, so he will be charged for 500 pages. And in case he transfers 10 GB data in, and 10 GB data out, he will be charged for that traffic, as well as for the I/O. The sessions in questions will be SSH sessions (text mode) as well as SSH/X sessions (remote desktops). Maybe someone already uses something similar he wants to share? Suggestions and inspirations are welcome. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cat sort(1) sort floating point numbers?
On Monday 03 October 2011 14:05:42 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I tried sorting a file with a column of floating point numbers (below) with sort(1) -n. However, the numbers seem to have been sorted by the first digit only. sort -g Due to the GNU project's obsession with info (http://xkcd.com/912/), you can't readily find this out from the manpage - but the info documentation available on the web for coreutils describes the difference between -g and -n: [when using -n] Neither a leading ‘+’ nor exponential notation is recognized. To compare such strings numerically, use the --general-numeric-sort (-g) option. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.2 Partition Sizing question
Thanks bud. On 9/15/2011 5:19 AM, f92...@hushmail.com wrote: There is nothing wrong with having / and /usr on separate partitions; in fact, there are some mild advantages to fine-grained partitioning for folks who pay attention to their filesystem space usage. To elaborate on this: Assuming you have separate /var, /tmp, /usr and /home partitions, the only files that should be on / are: 1. Part of base system not in /usr 2. Kernels (/boot/kernel) 3. root home directory (/root) Therefore the size of / does not grow with time on most systems. It also tends to be independent of what the system is used for, unlike the size of /usr for example. On my systems / is between 1.5 gb to 2 gb depending on overall disk size. /usr is up to 10 gb on desktop systems. A benefit of having / on its own partition is that it becomes much harder to run / out of disk space by accident. Checking out source trees (/usr/ports, /usr/src), building world (/usr/obj), building ports (/usr/ports), running software that uses /usr/local/programname/logs for storing its log files, etc. all have potential to write to /usr if you don't have appropriate configuration/symlinks/partitions set up to redirect them to the right places. If your /usr is separate from / then running out of disk space on /usr is usually harmless. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)
Thanks Matthew / Michael for your responses on this. On 9/14/2011 2:51 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 14/09/2011 18:27, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: ... In these days of plentiful RAM, the new rule of thumb is if you're swapping, then you're doing it wrong. I think your response follows the excellent pedagogical principle: a little inaccuracy saves a lot of explanation. But... disk is still (by far) the cheapest commodity, and the opportunistic paging algorithm manages VM very well. VM is not by any means obsolete, and seeing paging behavior is not a sign of a misconfigured system. Well, yes. I was certainly glossing over a lot of complexity -- but I would maintain that I am fundamentally correct. Having some pages swapped out is absolutely not a problem. True. In fact, it's a positive benefit: swapping out memory pages that are exceedingly rarely referenced makes more room in RAM for more actively used pages. On the other hand, having pages continually swapping in and out definitely is a problem in terms of performance, given that disk IO takes of the order of milliseconds, while reference to main RAM is of the order of microseconds or less. Orders of magnitude faster. Now, while disk may well be the much the cheapest storage medium available, that's only part of the expense. In fact, up-front capital expenditure on the kit (perhaps several thousand pounds/euros/dollars) is outweighed by the operational expense (power, cooling, hardware support etc.) over the life of the equipment, so spending a bit more (capex) on components that run at lower power (opex) makes a lot of sense. Even more, if the server is being used for eg. e-Commerce, then the volume of the transactions and the data processed by the server makes all the difference to your margin: the more you can do with the same hardware - viz, the more efficiently and faster you can make the hardware run - then the more profit you make. Buying more RAM is peanuts on that scale. Cheers, Matthew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.2 Partition Sizing question
Thanks again Matthew On 9/14/2011 2:55 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 14/09/2011 19:31, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: In regards to partitioning, I have a question regarding a rumor that has been told to me by various different linux experts, and I wanted to confirm if this also takes place with FreeBSD Unix. In the past, I have always had the root filesystem (/) and the /usr filesystem all on seperate partitions. I was told that having /usr on a seperate partition is an old way of doing things and actually causes issues when /usr is mounted separately from root (/). Does this play true in FreeBSD or is that thought process nonsense? I was told to create a larger root filesystem and NOT create usr seperately as /usr will mount off the root filesystem anyway. Will there be any issues by having /usr on a separate partition then root? I will like to know any opinions on this, as well as suggestions based on how other FreeBSD guru's have their server setups. There is nothing wrong with having / and /usr on separate partitions; in fact, there are some mild advantages to fine-grained partitioning for folks who pay attention to their filesystem space usage. However, there is nothing wrong with a single root partition (well, and swap partition), either. Use ZFS and you can put / and /usr on different filesystems (zfses), without any need to worry about not having made any of those filesystems big enough. (Since all the free space is held in common for all of the zfses on the same zpool.) The best of both worlds. Cheers, Matthew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)
Good morning all, Each operating system seems to have different documentation regarding what a decent swap size is for systems with large amounts of RAM. My system only has 8GB of RAM. Some people have gone with the general idea that 2X the amount of RAM is sufficient but for systems with large amounts of memory 1X the amount of RAM is fine. I was also told that anything over 2GB of SWAP space will cause performance issues on the system and that it is not recommended. Either from the FreeBSD docs, or based on personal experiences, what is the recommended swap space for a 8GB system? Your opinions are greatly appreciated Kind Regards, Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recommended SWAP space for large amounts of ram (8GB)
Excellent response. Thank you so much.
On Sep 14, 2011 9:56 AM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk
wrote:
On 14/09/2011 13:34, Jonathan Vomacka wrote:
Each operating system seems to have different documentation regarding
what a decent swap size is for systems with large amounts of RAM. My
system only has 8GB of RAM. Some people have gone with the general idea
that 2X the amount of RAM is sufficient but for systems with large
amounts of memory 1X the amount of RAM is fine. I was also told that
anything over 2GB of SWAP space will cause performance issues on the
system and that it is not recommended.
Either from the FreeBSD docs, or based on personal experiences, what is
the recommended swap space for a 8GB system? Your opinions are greatly
appreciated
The old rule of thumb of swap = 2 x RAM dates back to the days when
128MB RAM was a big deal. Nowadays, you're likely to have that much in
your phone, and systems with 128GB RAM are not unknown.
In these days of plentiful RAM, the new rule of thumb is if you're
swapping, then you're doing it wrong. You don't need anything like as
much swap nowadays, at least, not as compensation for lack of RAM. You
may need swap to back eg. tmpfs filesystems. You don't need swap
nowadays for system dumps -- any partition with ephemeral data (or no
data at all) can be used for dumping, and given that minidump capability
exists now, you don't even need to supply the 1 x RAM + delta required
for a full dump.
That swap 2GB resulted in performance problems was certainly true
once, but I doubt very much that it is still the case in HEAD or the
upcoming 9.0-RELEASE, nor probably in {7,8}-STABLE. IIRC the problem
was due to avoiding integer overflow in some calculations deep inside
the VM system, which is usually not a hugely difficult problem to fix.
My recommendation: for systems with 1GB RAM or more, and that don't make
heavy use of memory filesystems and the like, then 2GB swap is ample,
and you can probably get away with as little as 1GB at need.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Re: 'Using the Packages System' international
On Tuesday 16 August 2011 12:13:24 Amanda Lynn wrote: Hi! [snip] Regards, Amanda Lynn +(360) 488-0303 Google the phone number. This has cropped up here before iirc - I'm not sure exactly what the scam is, but scam it is. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Established method to enable suid scripts?
On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:26:49 Chris Telting wrote: On 05/12/2011 07:57, Jonathan McKeown wrote: I'll say that again. It is inherently insecure to run an interpreted program set-uid, because the filename is opened twice and there's no guarantee that someone hasn't changed the contents of the file addressed by that name between the first and second open. It's one thing to tell people they need to be careful with suid because it has security implications. Deliberately introducing a well-known security hole into the system would in my view be dangerous and wrong. That race condition bug was fixed in ancient times. Before Freebsd or Linux ever existed I believe. It's a meme that just won't die. People accepted mediocrity in old commercial versions of Unix. I personally am unsatisfied by kludges. That seems somewhat unlikely given, as someone else pointed out upthread, that Perl still comes with a compile-time option SETUID_SCRIPTS_ARE_SECURE_NOW, suggesting that they often aren't. Yes, there are ways to avoid this race condition - the usual one is to pass a handle on the open file to the interpreter, rather than closing it and reopening it. This fix is not present in every Unix or Unix-like OS. In particular (although I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong) it's not present in FreeBSD, to the best of my knowledge. Whether there's a reason for that other than lack of developer time I don't know. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Established method to enable suid scripts?
On Thursday 12 May 2011 16:13:50 Chris Telting wrote: On 05/11/2011 07:14, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 05:54:04PM -0700, Chris Telting wrote: I've googled for over an hour. I'm not looking to get into a discussion on security or previous bugs that are currently fixed. Suid in and of itself is a security issue. But if you are using suid it it should work; I don't want to use a kludge and I don't want to use sudo. I'm hoping it's a setting that is just disabled by default. My understanding is that in general the system does not allow SUID on scripts. The way I have gotten around that (a long time ago) was to create a small binary that exec's the script and making the binary SUID. Well it's all hacks and in my not so humble option like chasing your tail. The assumption is that if someone creates an executable (assumption is programming is C) they are more credible not to make mistakes. That's a fallacy and just plain nuts. And I'm an interpreted language snob saying that. Suid is either allowable or not and should be a sysctl and apply equally to binaries and scripts. Yet another thing to add to my project list. Anyone know of an established patch for fix this freebsd issue or am I yet again going to have to create my own? Have you appreciated the issue with suid on scripts? It's nothing at all to do with whether someone writing a compiled language is a better programmer than someone writing an interpreted language. When the OS launches a binary, the file containing the program is opened once. When the OS launches an interpreted program, the file is opened once to find out which interpreter to run, and then the interpreter is told to re-open the same filename - whose contents might meanwhile have changed. I'll say that again. It is inherently insecure to run an interpreted program set-uid, because the filename is opened twice and there's no guarantee that someone hasn't changed the contents of the file addressed by that name between the first and second open. It's one thing to tell people they need to be careful with suid because it has security implications. Deliberately introducing a well-known security hole into the system would in my view be dangerous and wrong. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Established method to enable suid scripts?
On Wednesday 11 May 2011 04:19:29 Devin Teske wrote: The reason that the suid bit doesn't work on scripts (shell, perl, or otherwise) is because these are essentially text files that are interpreted by their associated interpreter. It is the interpreter itself that must be suid. I'm pretty sure that's not the case, although I'm open to correction. The reason the system ignores the suid bit on a script is because of what would happen when it's executed: 1) the script is read from a file called filename and the system notices that it needs to be interpreted by another program. 2) that program is launched and told to re-open the file named filename and execute its contents with suid privilege. The problem is a race condition: there's no guarantee that the filename opened by the interpreter in step 2 is the same file the user executed in step 1. There are two common ways round this: ignore the suid bit; or arrange within the OS to pass a handle to the original file rather than a filename so that the script can't be changed out from under the interpreter. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with shell script
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 17:58:33 David Scheidt wrote: ps ax | grep [s]lapd | wc -l The [] creates a one-character class that doesn't match the regex. Easier to type and grep should be a bit faster. And you can save another process by using ps ax | grep -c '[s]lapd' Although as others have pointed out, you can also use pgrep. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Just wanted to install vim - had to spend entire day building X11
On Monday 10 January 2011 15:02:35 Ed Smith wrote: This seems bizarre. Logically, it would seem better to do a split like vim (bare vim - what you would expect) and xvim (vim with X11) similar to how emacs does emacs/xemacs. Er, no. xemacs is a fork of emacs. emacs has X-related dependencies unless you make it WITHOUT_X11. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a perl question
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 12:32:00 S Mathias wrote:
cat asdf.txt
bla-bla
bla-bla
bla[XYZ]
importantthing
another important thing
[/XYZ]
bla-bla
bla-bla
[XYZ]
yet another thing
hello!
[/XYZ]
bla-bla
etc.
$ SOMEPERLMAGIC asdf.txt output.txt
$ cat output.txt
importantthing
another important thing
yet another thing
hello!
This could mean almost anything (witness another response which excludes lines
containing blah or XYZ, which gives the desired output on your test input).
Are you actually trying to extract all the lines inside [XYZ]...[/XYZ] tags?
are the tags guaranteed not to occur on the lines you need to extract, as they
appear here?
Because (all on one line)
perl -ne 'print if ($check = m{\[XYZ\]} .. m{\[/XYZ\]}) 1 and
$check !~ /E0$/' asdf.txt output.txt
produces the same output as you have above for the test input. (The .. range
operator in scalar context is true as soon as the left-hand expression is
true, and false as soon as the right-hand expression is true. It returns 1
each time it becomes true, incrementing integers as it stays true, and
appends E0 to the last number as it becomes false, which lets you exclude
both endpoints).
Jonathan
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Re: Does WINE work on FreeBSD amd64 ?
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 02:02:58AM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote: The wiki page seems to say that wine is a 32-bit port, and 32-bit ports do not work well on amd64. This would imply that 32-bit Windows programs would not run on 32-bit wine on a FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 system. Is this a correct interpretation? Does anyone know if there are any plans to get 32 or 64 bit windows programs running under wine on FreeBSD amd64? http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine Well, if you look further down the page, you can see how to get a 32-bit wine on an amd64 system. I followed the instructions, and I can get it to play Starcraft and EVE-Online. You just got to make sure that the 32-bit executable is on your path. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Vini, vidi, velcro... I came, I saw, I stuck around ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fetching mail (but not fetchmail)
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:27:32PM -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: Bit of an odd question. But I will try. Is it possible to set up some mechanism (in freebsd or maybe gentoo (doesn't matter to me)) to pop/imap into my mail location and download everything as storage and then I imap to my local machine to read my mail. I realize I can pop/imap directly into my mail, the goal of this exorcise is to store my mail on one of my local servers and not my windows machine which can change at a moment's notice. (I just don't like the idea of permanent/long-term storage in Windows :/ ) I've got a fetchmail + procmail combination, where fetchmail retrieves it from a remote POP3 server and procmail is the local MDA which converts it to Maildir format (which can be read by my local IMAP server). My ~/.fetchmailrc looks like this: poll pop3.vodafone.co.nz protocol pop3 username myusername password mypassword mda /usr/local/bin/procmail sslproto And ~/.procmailrc looks like: # # # Trailing / for Maildir MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir/ DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/ ... Hope that helps. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older, it starts avoiding you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Shopping cart other than OSCommerce?
On Thursday 09 December 2010 01:07:38 Kevin Kinsey wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: You don't magically get immunity from SQL injection by using JDBC or EOF or whatever, but using bound variables in queries rather than feeding user input into raw SQL, or invoking stored procedures or user-defined functions instead will mitigate one of the more common security problems. And these practices are Good Practice in any language, including PHP. I think a big part of PHP's problem was [... documentation] I don't think it was just documentation. Perl, for example, comes with a standard way to access databases, DBI, which has good practices like binding variables in queries, escaping of input and output and so on, baked in. PHP comes with builtin functions for accessing MySQL databases, which do nothing at all to help the programmer make sensible decisions and follow best practice. There are database abstraction modules for PHP as far as I know, but if someone decides not to use them, is it still as hard as it was to do things safely using the builtin mysql_* functions? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PCI Parallel Port I/O card
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz wrote: Hi, I've got a system which has a PCI I/O card with a parallel port on it. I'd like my 8-STABLE/amd64 machine to recognise this card. The relevant bits of pciconf -lcv is: no...@pci0:4:6:0: class=0x070103 card=0x2000a000 chip=0x98659710 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'MosChip Semiconductors (Was: Netmos Technology)' class = simple comms subclass = parallel port cap 01[48] = powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 However, a verbose boot reveals: ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range ppc0: Parallel port failed to probe at irq 7 on isa0 For the archives: It appears there isn't any to configure the card to be recognised out-of-box. I had to add an entry in sys/dev/ppc_pci.c with the matching chip number, and recompile the kernel. Currently, it is recognised as: ppc1: MosChip NM9865 1284 Printer port port 0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd887 mem 0xfe8ff000-0xfe8f,0xfe8fe000-0xfe8fefff irq 21 at device 6.0 on pci4 If I had multi-I/O ports on the card, I would have had to modify sys/dev/puc/puc_data.c instead. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
PCI Parallel Port I/O card
Hi, I've got a system which has a PCI I/O card with a parallel port on it. I'd like my 8-STABLE/amd64 machine to recognise this card. The relevant bits of pciconf -lcv is: no...@pci0:4:6:0: class=0x070103 card=0x2000a000 chip=0x98659710 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'MosChip Semiconductors (Was: Netmos Technology)' class = simple comms subclass = parallel port cap 01[48] = powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 However, a verbose boot reveals: ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range ppc0: Parallel port failed to probe at irq 7 on isa0 which is due to /boot/device.hints of: hint.ppc.0.at=isa hint.ppc.0.irq=7 How can I configure my system to recognise the parallel port on the PCI bus? Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Opportunities are seldom labeled ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new user questions. (Before I back myself into a corner!)
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:41:17PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: [...] Have a FTP server, so I can automate some of the web page graphics updates, from other systems that generate the data, and can FTP files across the LAN, also of course for general web page maintenance needs. The base system ftpd is run from inetd, a super server which can serve several small protocols. Have a look at /etc/inetd.conf. The first real line: #ftp stream tcp nowait root/usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -l Uncomment that (remove the 'hash'), and save it (you'll have to be root again, of course). An easier solutions would be to enable the ftp server in standalone mode via /etc/rc.conf: ftpd_enable=YES -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- The reason why worry kills more people than work is that more people worry than work. - Robert Frost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Where to send coredump?
2010/11/20 Коньков Евгений kes-...@yandex.ru: Hi, Freebsd-questions. I ran FreeBSD 9-Current. System sometimes page faults. Does FBSD comunity need core dumps? If so where I can put dumps for you? -CURRENT is 'bleeding-edge'; and if you're using it you should be subscribing to freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org. Your kernel-fu should be of a sufficient level before contemplating this branch. In general, stack traces are more useful than raw-core dumps; but patches are more than welcome. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: strange behaviour on FreeBSD 7.1
2010/11/18 Коньков Евгений kes-...@yandex.ru: Hi. Sometimes system goes to this situation: 0% idle and no processes take CPU time #top -SIHP last pid: 62813; load averages: 4.17, 3.64, 2.16 up 28+06:44:02 20:41:41 155 processes: 7 running, 129 sleeping, 19 waiting CPU: 99.3% user, 0.0% nice, 0.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 177M Active, 27M Inact, 124M Wired, 13M Cache, 60M Buf, 148M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 51M Used, 1997M Free, 2% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND #top last pid: 62852; load averages: 4.10, 3.67, 2.22 up 28+06:44:36 20:42:15 172 processes: 4 running, 168 sleeping CPU: 99.6% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 203M Active, 27M Inact, 125M Wired, 13M Cache, 60M Buf, 121M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 51M Used, 1997M Free, 2% Inuse PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND 62817 root 36 -8 0 29696K 23276K piperd 0:00 7.62% perl5.8.8 If you look at the last pid between the 2 top-output snippets, you can see that approx 40 processes came and went in-between. This indiciates that you probably have some script running that's spawning a large number of short-lived processes. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BUG: wrong log messages
2010/11/19 Коньков Евгений kes-...@yandex.ru Hi, Freebsd-questions. Nov 18 20:27:54 meta-up kernel: Nov 18 20:29:11 meta-up kernel: 110ip11f0w: ipfw: 102 102D enyD enTyCP T1C9P 192.168.2.173:4425 192.168.168.155:445 out via re0 Nov 18 20:32:30 meta-up kernel: 110 iefw: 102 Deny UDP 192.168.2.90:54625 192.168.1.33:59306 out via re0 Nov 18 20:33:55 meta-up kernel: 1u0 ipa re0 Nov 18 20:42:07 meta-up kernel: Nov 18 20:47:34 meta-up kernel: 111010iippffww:: 110022 DDeennyy UUDDPP 118982..9136.86.23..41931::1500030698 11929.21.61868.. 21..91073::1417464787 oouutt vviiaa rree00 This particular bug of overlapping output from multiple-core machines has been around for years. I don't think it's going to get fixed anytime soon. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Glue records (was Re: ATTN GARY KLINE)
On Friday 05 November 2010 22:51:01 Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Fri Nov 5 02:26:31 2010 From: Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:27:38 +0200 Subject: Glue records (was Re: ATTN GARY KLINE) When a nameserver delegates a zone, it's not responsible for any of that zone's records any more, with two exceptions. It provides NS records to indicate which nameservers /are/ responsible, and it retains responsibility for the A records of nameservers inside the zone - and only those nameservers. (That's glue.) There's no way a .com nameserver should be providing A records for hosts in the .au zone. sure there is. Domain: foo.com (an aussie company) nameservers ns1.alicesprings.au, ns2.umelbourneatperth.au I think we're agreeing violently ;) The nameservers for the .com zone, when asked about foo.com, should reply with the hostnames of the two nameservers. It shouldn't reply with their IP addresses; the only nameservers that can do that are the ones serving the .au zone or the alicesprings.au and umelbourneatperth.au zones. They're still wrong to bw whinging about a lack o glue records. glue is needed _only_ when the nameserver is _in_ the domain it is the authoritative servr for. So, in the above frivolous example, foo.com does *NOT* need any glue records, but if ns1.alicesprings.au is an authoritative server for alicesprings.au, then *it* needs a glue record for that domain. Well, the glue record will be ``above the cut'': if .au delegates alicesprings.au, it's the .au nameserver that provides the A record for ns1.alicesprings.au; but, yes. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Glue records (was Re: ATTN GARY KLINE)
On Friday 05 November 2010 09:28:27 Ian Smith wrote: But you don't always have any control of what parent nameservers do; eg we do DNS for a .com but both NS are in .au so DNS reports always whinge about lack of glue They should be whingeing about lack of clue (their own) unless I'm horribly wrong about how DNS works. When a nameserver delegates a zone, it's not responsible for any of that zone's records any more, with two exceptions. It provides NS records to indicate which nameservers /are/ responsible, and it retains responsibility for the A records of nameservers inside the zone - and only those nameservers. (That's glue.) There's no way a .com nameserver should be providing A records for hosts in the .au zone. nonetheless it works, though only after a hunt down through the .au servers, until cached. Yes, this is exactly what /should/ happen. Only the .au servers (or servers they delegate to) are authoritative for hosts in the .au zone. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which OS for notebook
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 13:31:08 Carmel wrote: I have been tooling around with FreeBSD for a year or so now and I find it incredible that there is virtually no support for modern hardware; i.e., drivers for 'N' protocol devices. That one factor alone, and there are others, precludes me from seriously thinking about installing FreeBSD on a new laptop. The one PC that I have FreeBSD installed on is connected via Ethernet cable to my LAN. Once that PC is replaced by year's end with a more powerful, and wireless enabled unit, I am afraid my experiment with FreeBSD will come to a close. At present it certainly will not support the wireless card installed, and I am not even sure if it will support all of the other hardware either. I realize that at this point someone will inevitably chime in and play the blame the manufacturers whine. If that were factually correct, then no one else would be able to supply drivers and support for hardware that FreeBSD has left orphaned. The bottom line is that FreeBSD, if it is to continue to be considered a viable alternative operating system, must stay current in today's market. Many posts that I have viewed on other forums seem to feel that FreeBSD is sadly, whether do to bad choices such as those related to GPL licenses, or failure to properly gage today's market trends, is slipping into an abyss. So. What's the connection between freebsd.u...@seibercom.net, carmel...@hotmail.com and ges...@yahoo.com, who all post through scorpio.seibercom.net, and who all have remarkably similar views on why FreeBSD is a pile of rubbish? And in terms of keeping my killfile reasonably effective, is there any easy way to filter out /all/ the sockpuppets at once? Or do I just need to keep adding them one at a time? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which OS for notebook
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 15:47:36 Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Tuesday 05 October 2010 13:31:08 Carmel wrote: I have been tooling around with FreeBSD for a year or so now and I find it incredible that there is virtually no support for modern hardware; i.e., drivers for 'N' protocol devices. [snip] I realize that at this point someone will inevitably chime in and play the blame the manufacturers whine. If that were factually correct, then no one else would be able to supply drivers and support for hardware that FreeBSD has left orphaned. So. What's the connection between freebsd.u...@seibercom.net, carmel...@hotmail.com and ges...@yahoo.com, who all post through scorpio.seibercom.net, and who all have remarkably similar views on why FreeBSD is a pile of rubbish? And in terms of keeping my killfile reasonably effective, is there any easy way to filter out /all/ the sockpuppets at once? Or do I just need to keep adding them one at a time? Well, according to me FreeBSD works very well on desktops (except for CUDA), but I agree that its usage is extremely limited for laptops and netbooks. If I can't use ACPI or wireless on my laptop/netbook, I don't really see the point... Over the past 6 years I have tried many times to use FreeBSD on my laptops/netbooks but these problems always made me fall back to Linux... I still use FreeBSD as the only OS on my desktop computers though... I'm not disputing that there are things not supported on/by FreeBSD that it would be nice to see working. I'm just getting bored with hearing very similar whinges, posted from multiple email addresses but apparently all from the same person: look at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-December/209946.html and then http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-December/209966.html Both messages are sent from carmel_ny at hotmail.com. They have the identical ascii-art flag in the sigblock. One is signed Carmel (carmel at hotmail.com), the other Jerry (gesbbb at yahoo.com). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
On Wednesday 15 September 2010 13:02:41 Jerry wrote: It took years, literally, before FreeBSD matured enough to get 64-bit drivers for nVidia working correctly on its platform. The failure to get the latest version(s) of Java working correctly on FreeBSD and thereby, at least in my case, make the latest version of Firefox fully usable, rests with the FreeBSD developers. I have not been able to ascertain exactly why Java cannot be made functional on a modern FreeBSD system. Other than receiving some useless suggestion about donating money to the Java foundation, or whatever it is called, nobody has responded with an answer. The bottom line is that Java appears to be functioning on other flavors of *.nix, but not FreeBSD. It would seem pretty obvious where the problem lies. Yes. It lies with Sun and Oracle, and the licensing terms that prevent the FreeBSD project from distributing modified Java packages. More generally, the problem lies with companies who won't support FreeBSD but also prevent the project from supporting their product itself. There are strong commercial interests in Linux - IBM, Red Hat, Oracle, to name three - which makes it worth spending some money supporting a product on Linux. (That goes for other products too: nvidia graphics card drivers, flash, wireless networking device drivers...) Even so there are products that have patchy support in Linux too. FreeBSD isn't as attractive a commercial target, since it has no financially powerful backers (that I'm aware of), a small market share, and not much public awareness. Some companies are prepared to sink resources into supporting it anyway, and others are prepared to release the information needed for the FreeBSD project to support their products for them. There are other companies, as I said, that won't do either. I don't think it's fair to blame the FreeBSD developers for that; nor indeed to expect the FreeBSD developers to be responsible for making Sun/Oracle's Java and the Mozilla Foundation's Firefox work. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Could not chdir to home directory
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:11:40PM +0530, Nita Pavitran wrote: Hi, I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory instead of the home directory: Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied uname -a FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 r...@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. Check the output of: ls -ld / ls -ld /homes ls -ld /homes/nitap -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone - Al Capone ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Grepping a list of words
On Friday 13 August 2010 15:47:38 Jack L. Stone wrote: The only thing it didn't do for me was the next step. My final objective was to really determine the words in the word.file that were not in the main.file. I figured finding matches would be easy and then could then run a sort|uniq comparison to determine the new words not yet in the main.file. Since I will have a need to run this check frequently, any suggestions for a better approach are welcome. sort -u and comm(1)? comm will compare two sorted files and produce up to three lists: of words only in file one, of words only in file 2 and of words common to both files. You can suppress any or all of the output lists. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to connect a jail to the web ?
On Wednesday 11 August 2010 03:07:32 Rocky Borg wrote: You should probably preface this by saying you're the author of Qjail and have been actively promoting it in a few places including the fbsd forums. That's interesting, given that you're replying to Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com. The announcement of qjail came from Aiza aiz...@comclark.com. No reason why someone shouldn't use two email accounts, I guess; but I must admit I'd naively assumed fbsd8 was independently endorsing aiza's utility. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: virtualbox
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 06:19:51PM +0200, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: Very powerfull, indeed too bad vrdp doesn't work on OSE... It works great with the VNC server replacement. I've got this running on 8-STABLE/amd64. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz --- One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted. -- Thomas B. Reed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD and Broadband network connection
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:36:27AM -0700, subbu 4u wrote: Hi, My name is Subburaj from India, I bought a broadband internet connection and tried to connect with Freebsd system, I edited the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf with my username, password and i.p address that my ISP gave me but its not going through. I tried to troubleshoot with freebsd handbook and also with forums but its not working but my internet connection is working with windows 7 systems. The freeBSD were able to detect my ethernet card as vr0 and also my external modem is working with freebsd but there is no connection when I ping. Kindly help. If you have an external modem, this will mean that your probably nat'ing from your modem. ie: your modem establishes the connection with your ISP. If this is the case, all you have to do is establish your vr0 network with your modem, and set it as the default route. If this is not the case, you will need to provide the list with more details as to the internal network structure; ie IP addresses, etc. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz --- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by - Douglas Adams ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to modify a port's makefile
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:43:24PM -0700, Caleb Stein wrote: I asked this question a while ago, and I received a few confusing answers. Here is my question again: The Wine port will only build on i386. I have amd64. I want to install Wine. Is it safe to modify Makefile to allow it to build on amd64? Please, just answer yes or no. Yes you can try, but it won't work. You'll hit a point where it will complain about an illegal assembler instruction. What will work is detailed at: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine#head-6963d527c173e57b1567e881305b544d33435b6d -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz --- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by - Douglas Adams ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is it safe to modify a port's makefile
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:54:45PM -0700, Caleb Stein wrote: Thank you, just the kind of answer I was looking for. Now is the opportunity for a more detailed answer. After reading that page, it seemed like those instructions would either install i386 over amd64, or make your amd64 think it's i386. Now, I may be wrong, but I sure don't want my amd64 turning into or thinking it's an i386. The instructions are for building wine/i386 on a amd64 environment. You will end up with i386 binaries, but the base will be under /compat/i386. Provided your kernel has COMPAT_FREEBSD32, it will be able to run wine/i386 in /compat/i386/usr/local/bin. All your amd64 binaries will still be there from / downwards. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck - Curly ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: i386 wine on amd64 - DRI a lost cause?
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:04:43AM +0200, David Naylor wrote: On Friday 02 July 2010 01:35:05 xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2010-07-01 22:16:26, David Naylor wrote: Have you tried the packages from http://people.freebsd.org/~ivoras/wine/ They worked for me with nvidia and intel. Thanks, but as I mentioned in the hackers@ thread (and possibly this one), it's actually DRI that's the problem. I can't even run 32-bit glxinfo reliably in the chroot. libGL often receives EFAULT when doing various ioctls on /dev/dri/card0 and sometimes crashes outright. That is interesting as I am able to play Warcraft 3 on an intel laptop. I don't think it is using software rendering. Wine runs without crashing and does require libGL to launch the game. I have also played Command and Conquer 3 on nvidia (but the proprietry nvidia driver does not use dri). I'm got (unjailed) wine/i386 on amd64, and it plays DirectX 9 games with no problems; eg EVE-Online. I'm using the nvidia-drivers, which have to be installed on the 32-bit base, as well as the 64-bit driver on the /usr/local -- Jonathan Chen | To do is to be -- Nietzsche j...@chen.org.nz | To be is to do -- Sartre | Scooby do be do -- Scooby ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what is /usr/sbin/nmbd
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 07:33:16AM -0700, Caleb Stein wrote: I constantly get messages telling me that it couldn't be executed. nmbd is part of the samba suite. However, in FreeBSD it lives in /usr/local/sbin. The fact that something is trying to execute it says that you've got some Linux shell script running without your knowledge. Check to see if you machine has got any funny scripts in /tmp or /var/tmp, indicating some incursion. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Beer. Now there's a temporary solution. - Homer Simpson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Detecting fake library versions
On Thursday 17 June 2010 09:39:37 Matthew Seaman wrote: But what about hard links? I hear you ask. Simple: find /usr/lib /lib -name '*.so.*' -links +2 +1 surely? + modifier in find(1) means ``more than'', not ``at least''. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Simulate CRON
On Monday 14 June 2010 13:39:15 Carmel wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:41:19 +0530 Amitabh Kant amitabhk...@gmail.com articulated: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: I saw a posting here months ago regarding a way to simulate running a script under CRON. I wrote it down and now cannot find it. Googling has not proved very useful either. I just cannot remember the program name. I hope I am explaining this sanely enough. Are you looking for a cron syntax check? If yes, then this site should be of some help: http://www.hxpi.com/cron_sandbox.php No, sorry. There was a command or program, I forgot which, that would allow a user to run a program under another environment, similar to the environment that a script under CRON would be running under. env(1)? From the manpage: The env utility executes another utility after modifying the environment as specified on the command line. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Midphase Hosting
On Thursday 10 June 2010 18:30:52 Matthew Seaman wrote: On 10/06/2010 17:12:50, Jerry wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za articulated: Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase care so little about their reputation or the impression this is giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their competence and diligence. I have employed VERP with mailing lists that I controlled. I never noticed any adverse effects. I know of several technical lists like Dovecot that employ it. Obviously, they find it useful. VERP itself is reasonably lightweight, as it modifies the envelope sender address -- something that can be applied during processing by the MTA as part of sending the message. As far as mail delivery goes, that's a very different story -- it goes from one message with tens of thousands of recipients, to tens of thousands of messages each with one recipient. Exactly - you can't batch up all the messages for users at the same domain because they now have different envelope senders. The impact of that on your mail delivery system (and the receiver's SMTP receiving system) depends on whether you have lots of individual subscribers, or several large groups. Having said that, I looked up VERP last night to check that I was right about the extra load, and came across a reference to VERP being the idea of DJB, and being acceptable to qmail users because there's no penalty load - qmail never batches up messages for the same domain, always sending each one individually. Is that true? It seems an odd design decision to me. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself?
On Thursday 10 June 2010 03:30:14 Pieter de Goeje wrote: On Wednesday 09 June 2010 09:34:40 Matthew Seaman wrote: On 09/06/2010 08:15:23, Eitan Adler wrote: Why do I sometimes see the grep in ps's output and sometimes not see it? When you run that pipeline the OS doesn't start both programs exactly simultaneously. [...] It's a race condition. I would like to add that you can avoid the issue entirely by using this command: % ps aux -p `pgrep sh` [output snipped due to bad wrapping] Or the old trick: ps | grep '[s]h' Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Midphase Hosting
So, it would appear that Midphase hosting are still incapable of working out why their ticketing system is sending replies with forged From: address to posters to the freebsd-questions mailing list. (Their support queue is at mpcustomer.com). I'm assuming the list admins already have examples to work with, but here is a set of headers from the reply I got to my last list post, in case it's any help. Return-Path: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx.ru.ac.za (mx.ru.ac.za [2001:4200:1010:0:250:56ff:fe8d:2ebb]) by imap.ru.ac.za (Cyrus v###) with LMTPA; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:05:39 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve Envelope-to: j.mcke...@ru.ac.za Delivery-date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:05:39 +0200 Received: from secure.mpcustomer.com ([208.43.146.75]:46852) by mx.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) id 1OMcld-000Eww-H3 for j.mcke...@ru.ac.za; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:05:39 +0200 Received: by secure.mpcustomer.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4841C1532997; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 (CDT) To: Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: supp...@mpcustomer.com Message-ID: e436b556aafa1c4bd0f2c367a0097...@secure.mpcustomer.com X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer (phpmailer.sourceforge.net) [version 2.0.4] X-Uberinst: uber_phase-support X-Mailer: Ubersmith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Midphase Hosting
On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net wrote: Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: supp...@mpcustomer.com Message-ID:e436b556aafa1c4bd0f2c367a0097...@secure.mpcustomer.com I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain mpcustomer.com that should solve the problem. I haven't received any of the messages, but I think they are being sent directly to list posters (not via the list) so FreeBSD can't really do much about it. If mpcustomer.com refuses to deal with it you can always try complaining to their upstream provider, taking the line that since the messages are unsolicited and there is no way to unsubscribe the practice is probably illegal. Well, yes, the message is being sent direct to list posters, but supp...@mpcustomer.com (or some address that's relaying to it) is presumably subscribed to the list (which I'm guessing was done maliciously), otherwise they wouldn't be receiving these messages. I know it creates work for the admins, but couldn't their address be unsubscribed and banned, given that they have been creating a nuisance for at least the last several weeks now? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Midphase Hosting
On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:51:42 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: [rant about midphase hosting and mpcustomer.com] They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody is relaying mail to them. They were told they need to provide headers so postmaster can determine what address is subscribed. They never replied (at least on list). I'm not an expert about such things but I think without their cooperation there's no real way to tell who the relay is. So this is a hosting company that has had (assuming everyone else is having the same experience as I am, namely one ticket per posting) almost 500 junk tickets added to their support queue in the last ten days (476 messages on the freebsd-questions archive for June when I checked a moment ago), and either can't think of a way to address the issue, or doesn't actually care enough to do anything about it, all the while presumably having real support requests swamped in the noise? I'd be jumping up and down looking for a solution by now (in fact I would have been weeks ago - can anyone remember how long this has been happening?). Jonathan (I should probably stress that I am not speaking on behalf of my employer and my opinions are entirely my own). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Midphase Hosting
On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved in the message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That has severe problems of scale and load on the FreeBSD mail servers, but it might be possible. There is a similar technique (whose name I have temporarily forgotten) that some mailing lists use where they tag the envelope sender address with the recipient name in order to identify addresses that are bouncing back the list e-mail. Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase care so little about their reputation or the impression this is giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their competence and diligence. I'll shut up now. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: [#24525016] External USB drive causes system to hang completely
On Sunday 30 May 2010 22:29:14 Alejandro Imass wrote: Hi all, I sent a question regarding a problem with USB and I get this in reply. Can someone explain? Thanks, Alejandro Imass Yes. There's a hosting company called MidPhase whose support queue (at mpcustomer.com) has been added (probably maliciously by some kiddie that thinks it's clever) to the mailing list. They appear either not to know how to stop their ticketing system responding to list emails, or not to care. Either way, it's not a great advertisement for them, as this has been going on for several weeks now with no improvement. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ipfw natd rules not loading on startup
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 02:33:10AM +0200, umage wrote: I performed a kernel+world update of my freebsd router, RELENG_8 branch, apparently from the version 6 months ago to current. I use ipfw and a shell script that gets loaded at startup. I noticed after rebooting that ipfw did not load two rules, both of type divert natd. However, if I run the script manually, or call it from the end of /etc/rc, it will add these rules as well. Currently I am using a workaround. Best to ask -STABLE. There's been some breakage of ipfw since end of April. I'm unsure as to whether they've all be resolved yet. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen | To do is to be -- Nietzsche j...@chen.org.nz | To be is to do -- Sartre | Scooby do be do -- Scooby ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Eclipse causes segmentation fault in Java
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:10:42PM +0200, Ondrej Majerech wrote: Hey, I have a fresh FBSD 8-Stable/AMD64 installation and I want to run Eclipse. This is what I get: [starlight] ~ eclipse realpath: : No such file or directory # # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x000825d6d985, pid=11170, tid=0xa0ae40 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (1.6.0_03-p4-root_13_may_2010_21_53-b00 mixed mode) # Problematic frame: # C [libglib-2.0.so.0+0x18985] g_base64_encode_step+0xe5 # # An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid11170.log # # Please submit bug reports to freebsd-j...@freebsd.org # At a guess, you recently upgraded to GNOME 2.30; and since it's been crashing. I just started seeing this myself since I updated yesterday. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Vini, vidi, velcro... I came, I saw, I stuck around ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DNS not working since May 6 2010
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 09:02:13AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/05/2010 21:40:02, Jonathan Chen wrote: I've got a small DNS server on my home network, and ever since May 6, 2010 (co-incidentally DNSSEC root sign day), lookups on freebsd.org have started failing. eg: Uh, the DURZ was installed on j.root; the last one of the root servers to get it. Besides, .org was DNSSEC signed way back in June 2009. That is not causing your problem here. Hmm, I ran across an DNSSEC article in The Register, which lead me to: http://labs.ripe.net/content/testing-your-resolver-dns-reply-size-issues Working thru' it, I tweaked my named.conf's edns-udp-size option and it started working again. So it looks like it was related to the final set of root servers being enabled. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- When all else fails, RTFM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
DNS not working since May 6 2010
Hi, I've got a small DNS server on my home network, and ever since May 6, 2010 (co-incidentally DNSSEC root sign day), lookups on freebsd.org have started failing. eg: ~,8:36am dig www.freebsd.org a ; DiG 9.6.1-P3 www.freebsd.org a ;; global options: +cmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Lookups on other domains still appear to work, Google, OpenBSD, NetBSD, etc. Is anyone else seeing this? How do I fix it? Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen jonathan.c...@solnetsolutions.co.nz Attention: This email may contain information intended for the sole use of the original recipient. Please respect this when sharing or disclosing this email's contents with any third party. If you believe you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender or postmas...@solnetsolutions.co.nz as soon as possible. The content of this email does not necessarily reflect the views of Solnet Solutions Ltd. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:20:28PM +0400, Mikle Krutov wrote: [...] I've played on my nvidia workstation (8400gs) Actually, the only tricky thing about games - installing wine on amd64, everything other works just as good as it does in linux. I agree. There's a wiki entry detailing the process: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine#head-6963d527c173e57b1567e881305b544d33435b6d There are a few problems with the network interfaces on the 32-64 bit bridge; which will intefere with some network related games (eg: EVE Online), but on the whole the experience is very positive. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- If everything's under control, you're going too slow - Mario Andretti ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: diablo-jdk not installing correctly
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 07:34:19PM -0400, herbey zepeda wrote: [...] I am concerned because according to the literature diablo is supposed to be the maintained jdk for FreeBSD. And I realize that I am having to download version 7.1 when we are already on version 8.0 of FreeBSD to make java work My question is: is Java in FreeBSD an experimental/academic package? Should I rather go with the linux compatibility way? There has been no movement with the diablo-jdk for ages; java/openjdk6 is better maintained and would be a better choice. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes down the vest of fear - Edmond Blackadder III ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usage of /usr/bin
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 11:13:13 Fbsd1 wrote: Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other things here for a moment. [snip] But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. I haven't installed postfix, but is this possibly related to the recently (2010-03-22) added option to install postfix into the base? In which case the commit six days later claims to correct a problem with the default (non-base) install. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Postfix in base system
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 13:34:07 Jerry wrote: I noticed that someone in another thread mentioned: quote (2010-03-22) added option to install Postfix into the base /quote I have not been able to locate that item. Could someone list the URL for that notice or tell me where to look for it? :-? Thanks %-\ I found it in the cvsweb interface to the ports tree: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/mail/postfix/Makefile Which lists rev1.155 with the commit message: Add an option to install into the base, and related support HTH Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd, postfix and push email
On Tuesday 30 March 2010 09:31:00 Matthew Seaman wrote: On 30/03/2010 03:01:27, Tim Judd wrote: I've never heard of either, but when I configure my IMAP server and put any mail client to it, as soon as a mail is delivered, the mail client is notified. That's the IDLE extension to IMAPv4 -- it's not a push protocol as such: the client still has to log into the server rather than vice versa, but once the client has read all the available e-mail, it can put itself into an idle state, and the server will wake it up as soon as any new e-mail comes in. Yes. In fact, one of the nice things about IMAPrev4 as a protocol is that the server is allowed (in fact, required by rfc3501) to notify the client if the mailbox size increases while executing any command, by sending an EXISTS response which the client is required to handle. IDLE is just a command that takes a long time to execute (specifically, until the client ends it or the server's time limit is reached) so that the server has to send EXISTS responses whenever mail comes in. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ntpdate problem
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 01:19:54PM -0600, Programmer In Training wrote:
On 03/13/10 13:08, RW wrote:
snip
ntpd_sync_on_start=YES
snip
you can run ntpdate at boot with
ntpdate_enable=YES
the rc script gets the servers from ntp.conf
Can you have both in rc.conf without abusing the ntp server(s) or should
it just be one or the other? I'd like my clock to be as accurate as
possible when I start up the system.
Yes. I have both enabled on my multi-boot laptop to account to huge
jumps in time when coming back from Windows.
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Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition
On Saturday 06 March 2010 15:02:20 Martin McCormick wrote: Fbsd1 writes: just dd the image to what ever drive you want That is the goal. The challenge is to launch a script that detects when the boot device has been unmounted as dd will not work on an active file system. Martin it may or may not work, but there's a sysctl for the geom subsystem which might do what you want. sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 This used to be used (for all i know still can be) to allow writing metadata for (eg) building a gmirror on a mounted disk - it's often referred to as the ``allow-footshooting'' flag. That might allow you to dd your image onto the mounted disk - i'd either try it with a handy spare system or wait for someone more expert than i to comment, though. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to get hints of software installed by Ports ?
On Friday 05 March 2010 16:20:36 Aaron Lewis wrote: Hi, I installed some software from ports today , and it outputs some useful information when finished. e.g where its config file is Due to some mistakes , i lost these important information , how do i see it again ? Is there any tricks to show out it directly ? I don't want to install it again .. Any ideas will appreciate ;-) pkg_info -D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On Thursday 04 March 2010 19:13:36 Matthew Seaman wrote: You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) Has this absolutely ludicrous change not been reverted with extreme prejudice yet? And is there a PR where we can add interesting suggestions as to what miseries should be inflicted on the person responsible for it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libswt on amd64 freebsd 8.0
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:07:51AM -0800, Dino Vliet wrote: Hi folks, My current machine is a amd64 system running freebsd 8.0. For a java application I need libswt and wanted to know if there is a native version for freebsd amd64. Also I need to know which port install this library, so what I should install to get it. x11-toolkits/swt -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- The reason why worry kills more people than work is that more people worry than work. - Robert Frost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which java on 8-release
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 05:25:57PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: Hi, Tried to get any permutation of XYZ-jre or XYZ-jdk installed on 8-rc1 and gave up. I see still no diablo for 8. What is the best way forward (and how am I so dense that no one else has even asked this question, I must be on the wrong track, no? You need to install compat7 and diablo-6. This will enable you to build your 'seed' openjdk6 port; which you can package and transfer to other hosts. You can remove compat7 and diablo-6 once openjdk6 has been installed; as openjdk6 can be used to rebuild itself during upgrades. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older, it starts avoiding you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Please help me
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 01:10:48PM +0630, komyo gyi wrote: hi, yesterday i have modify squid.conf file.i have use vi editior.but i cannot delete in text message. following error ^? appear.How to do it?. please help me. Looks like you're hitting the Delete key. That's not a valid vi command. You need to be in command mode and hit the 'x' key. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now
On Sunday 17 January 2010 10:24:43 Matthew Seaman wrote: Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I'd be very happy if I could: - fetch the distfiles, even if I have a conflicting port installed - be able to use portmaster -o to switch from one port to an other one that conflicts with it. - be able to at least compile a port (eg. for testing) without having to de-install the current one. I'm all in favor of restoring the old behavior with a switch available to turn on the new one. +1 Although a big fat warning message at fetch or build phase when operating on a port with conflicts wouldn't go amiss. I'd agree with this too. The idea of the change seems to be to protect people from wasting time downloading and building something which they can't install without resolving a conflict. How exactly was that wasted time? Surely you don't download and build a port you're not going to install? What the change actually does is penalise people who want to download and build regardless of conflicts, to reduce the time between uninstalling the conflicting port and being able to install the replacement. This seems to me to be a very badly thought-out change which should be reverted. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now
On Monday 18 January 2010 17:48:37 b. f. wrote: Argh! Stop! I wish that people who felt the need to add to this thread would read the prior posts beforehand, and consider their comments before posting. I don't know why you assume people didn't. I read the whole thread. I saw people who had individual special requirements, but I didn't see anything that suggested I was wrong in assuming the most common use case, by far, to be downloading and building a port in order to install it. Assuming that *is* indeed the commonest use case, this change makes life a little more difficult for almost everyone in order to save possibly as much as tens of minutes of wasted time for a few people. Worse than that, the new behaviour either increases downtime (by requiring that the conflicting port be removed before even starting to download the replacement) or requires, as you pointed out, setting a risky option which if accidentally misused, could break the whole system. I still think it's an ill-considered change for the worse to make the new behaviour the default. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Starting sshd, ssh connections
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:04:24PM +0100, n dhert wrote: On a newly installed FreeBSD7.2, when booting it takes a long time to get past Starting sshd.. I'm using the PC only in a private network. The IP of the PC is 192.168.75.8 # ssh r...@192.168.75.8 or # ssh r...@127.0.0.1 take both 15 seconds to display Password: ... At setup, I did specify a hostname, a domainname, a default_router (192.168.75.14) and DNS server 192.168.254.100 (in the future to be replace by non-private IPs), but since I am testing only in a private network and only with IP adresses (no hostnames) these are not used. So what is causing that delay at Start of sshd and use of ssh? Reverse DNS lookup. Make sure you have PTR entries for all IPs in use. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Irrationality is the square root of all evil - Douglas Hofstadter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Starting sshd, ssh connections
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:19:03PM +0100, n dhert wrote: There is an entry in /etc/hosts for the hostname and hostnam.domainname for its IP So far this is the only IP used (besides 127.0.0.1). /etc/resolv.conf containts the domainname and a nameserver line (nameserver 192.168.254.100) What else would be needed? I suspect your problem is that 192.168.75.8 doesn't resolve to a hostname. You could possibly put that into /etc/hosts, or put a PTR entry for it in your DNS. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%? On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:04:24PM +0100, n dhert wrote: On a newly installed FreeBSD7.2, when booting it takes a long time to get past Starting sshd.. I'm using the PC only in a private network. The IP of the PC is 192.168.75.8 # ssh r...@192.168.75.8 or # ssh r...@127.0.0.1 take both 15 seconds to display Password: ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0: OpenSSL stat()'s NLS 500+ times causing extreme system load
On Tuesday 15 December 2009 23:24:16 Linda Messerschmidt wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com wrote: It's defined in src/lib/libc/Makefile, so you should be able to remove that line, rebuild libc and reinstall, and see whether your performance issue goes away. I tried that and as you predicted, all the bogus stat calls went away. Unfortunately the performance issue did not. :( Back to the drawing board for me! Upon further inspection, it seems as though for each check, Nagios spawns a process that spawns a process that spawns a process that runs the check. I did ktrace -i -t w -p (nagiospid) on Nagios for 30 seconds and the ktrace output contained records from 2365 different processes spawned in that 30 seconds. During that time, I would expect about 800 checks to have run, so it does seem like it's right at 3 processes per check. I just don't think the system can keep up with all that fork()ing without going all out; it's just a limit of the Nagios plugin architecture. You've probably already spotted this, but this behaviour is documented in largeinstallationtweaks.html: ``Normally Nagios will fork() twice when it executes host and service checks. This is done to (1) ensure a high level of resistance against plugins that go awry and segfault and (2) make the OS deal with cleaning up the grandchild process once it exits. The extra fork() is not really necessary, so it is skipped when you enable this option. As a result, Nagios will itself clean up child processes that exit (instead of leaving that job to the OS). This feature should result in significant load savings on your Nagios installation.'' It can also be enabled separately in nagios's main config file - child_processes_fork_twice is the option to look for. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: black hole test
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 22:05:06 Peter Wemm wrote: Daignostic message to trace mailing list processing, please ignore. You have heard of freebsd-test@ , haven't you? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgraded to 8, no mouse is broken
On Friday 11 December 2009 08:17:06 Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:38:04 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Please see the Handbook section on X11 configuration instead: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html Just a side question: 5.4.2 Note 2 § 5 states: You will have to reboot your machine to force hald to read this file. which refers to /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi that re-enables Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X. Is it really, really needed to reboot the machine? Can't HAL just be restarted? I always thought reboot to make a minor setting work was the domain of Windows... At the risk of me-tooing, I also wondered about this. It seems insane to have to restart the OS and hardware to reread a config file. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: error when updating ports in 8.0
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 06:44:16PM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, Just update to release 8.0 a few days ago, then when update ports by csup, error occurs: Fatal error 'kse_create() failed ' at line 469 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_kern.c (errno = 0) At a guess, your userland and kernel are out of sync. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- The things we know best are the things we haven't been taught. - Marquis de Vauvenargues ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Downloading and Burning Free BSD
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:46:38PM -0800, Roger Agraviador wrote: I clicked the ISO link and I was brought to a directory, this to be exact ( ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/) Once I have downloaded all Iso Images do I burn the 'boot only.iso' file on one DVD or CD only? or do I burn that along with 'disc1.iso', and how do I go about burning the rest of the files in that directory once I have downloaded them? You should burn the disc1.iso at a minimum. The boot-only.iso is for testing. The other iso images contain packages that you may want to install. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. I want to achieve it through not dying - Woody Allen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5 and Epiphany crashing since the GNOME 2.28 update
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 01:44:00AM -0500, Curly Brace wrote: Hi all, I'm on 8.0/amd64, and my GNOME 2.28 update went off with no problems, but now Firefox 3.5 and Epiphany 2.28 crash when visiting certain pages, such as the Welcome to firefox first-start page. Firefox leaves Segmentation fault (core dump) in the console when it crashes, and Epiphany is silent. I've removed the Totem 2.28 plugins (thinking them to be the cause), removed Moonlight, removed Java, removed nspluginwrapper Flash10, and finally removed /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins altogether. This seems very similar to the Firefox 3.5 HTML5 video crash FreeBSD 7 users experience until they kldload sem, but I'm on 8.0 and sem is loaded by default. Did you remember to rebuild all your ports? -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- The reason why worry kills more people than work is that more people worry than work. - Robert Frost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ntpdate on FreeBSD 8.0
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 06:13:24AM -0600, ajtiM wrote: On Sunday 29 November 2009 21:38:04 Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009, ajtiM wrote: I have new installed FreeBSD 8.0 and in rc.conf I have: ntpdate_enable=YES ntpdate_hosts=ntp1.cs.wisc.edu When I boot computer I get a message there are no this host but when I run /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp1.cs.wisc.edu it works. I had the same in rc.conf on FreeBSD 7.2 and it works all the time. All settings on FreeBSD8.0 are the same as I had on 7.2. Might you have a Realtek network card? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA Yes, I have realtek card too but it is not active. DHCP is on sk0 and as I wrote I never had problems with that. Maybe is different now? Try using: ifconfig_sk0=SYNCDHCP which makes sure sk0 comes back with an address from DHCP before proceeding. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Only the meek get pinched. The bold survive. - Ferris Bueller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ifconfig - GUI interface available?
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 04:09:26PM +0100, herbert langhans wrote: Hi Daemons, I use my laptop in different wifi networks. To choose the ssid, passwords and such necessities I have to use the all-knowing and confusing 'ifconfig'. Question: Is there a GUI replacement for ifconfig? Where I can scan, choose the ssid and do other basic things? I havent found anything in the ports collection.. There's no GUI for ifconfig that I know of, but there *is* a GUI for managing wi-fi networks in the ports: http://www.freshports.org/net-mgmt/wifimgr/ See if it helps. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- The reason why worry kills more people than work is that more people worry than work. - Robert Frost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [] confession...
On Tuesday 24 November 2009 09:15:43 Gary Kline wrote: it's time to come clean an admit that i have never taken advantage of the option that lets you press [???], then press other keys in order so the result is like pressing multiple keys at once. i have never made a big deal over having but one useful hand simply because in my line as a hacker, one hand was enough. programming at 95mph was never the goal. everybody on this list has learned that forethought and planning beat typing speed! ---still, when my shoulder began to dislocate in 1999, typing thr number-shift keys [like '*', '', '^', and the rest became harder [*]. i'm ready to set up the multi-key stuff that's built in to at least KDE. appreciate a pointer to a url or tutorial on this... and/or to know what this feature is even called. it's time to get practical. i am stubborn, just not particular stupid. maybe slow :_) If you're using KDE3.5, look for Regional and Accessibility|accessibility under the Control Centre. There are two options, and I think the one you need is called sticky-keys, which makes the modifier keys (shift, alt, ctrl) ``stay pressed'' until you press another key. In other words, you can type the old three-fingered salute by pressing and releasing ctrl, pressing and releasing alt, and then pressing and releasing del. There's also an option called ``lock sticky keys''. If you choose this, the sequence of separate press-releases: shift a b results in Ab (the shift only applies to the next key pressed) whereas the sequence shift shift a b c shift d results in ABCd (double-shift locks shift key on until it's pressed again). (The other options, slow keys and bounce keys, apply if muscle control is impaired and cause a key to have to be held for a set time before it registers, and released for a certain time before registering a second key-press). Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrading firefox
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 04:13:01AM +, Steven Seipel wrote: I have freebsd 7.2 with gnome. It has firefox 2.0.0.20. What will I need to do to upgrade to firefox 3.anything? I have tried pkg_add -r with all the versions listed on the ports page but it is always unable to fetch them. When I just typed pkg_add -r firefox it told me I already have version 2.0.0.20 installed. So what do I do to get a more recent version? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-portsnap.html -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- Power corrupts, Absolute Power is pretty neat ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ELF library not found error
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:49:47AM -0600, Peter Steele wrote: Presumably (and I am speculating), the 8.0 packages are not yet finalized and therefore inconsistent. Perhaps you will have better luck after the official 8.0 Release? I was thinking the same thing--too much version mismatching going on. I'm going to take your suggestion though and compile all of the ports we want to use, and then convert them back into packages. I tried that with one port that was failing and this solved the problem. When you do a major upgrade (ie: 6 to 7, or 7 to 8), one of the final steps recommended is to recompile all ports. The compatX packages are a stop gap until your transition is complete, and can/should be removed once all your ports have been updated. If you choose not to recompile/refectch all your ports, you are faced with the possibility of library and port dependancy breakages as each installed port updates to newer and possibly incompatible versions. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- A little learning is a dangerous thing but a lot of ignorance is just as bad. - Bob Edwards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Virtual box to do cross-browser testing
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:02:59AM -0500, John Almberg wrote: Anyone have experience using Sun's Virtual Box on FreeBSD? I am looking for a way to run virtual Windows machines to do cross-browser testing... I've been using it to do some .NET programming, and it's been pretty good. No major problem, aside from the lack of CPU cycles the odd time or so. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ask for help on a strange question
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:08:25PM +0800, Jove James wrote: Hi friend, I've set up a FreeBSD virtual machine with VmWare Player. After configuring networ I installed xampp-linux-1.7.2.tar.gz on it. But quite weird that I got command not found error: jove# pwd /opt/lampp jove# ls RELEASENOTESerror lampp logssbin backup etc lib modules share bin htdocs libexec phpmyadmin tmp cgi-bin icons licensesphpsqliteadmin var jove# ./lampp start ./lampp: Command not found. Assuming that lampp is a script with the exec bit set, you may want to check that the first line references a script-interpreter that exists, eg #!/usr/bin/perl. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz --- One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted. -- Thomas B. Reed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: korean english on same box?
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 07:56:24PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: My Korean mother-in-law is visiting USA for the first time. I don't know the first thing about what it will take to make it so she can email home, so I'm hoping someone on the list is familiar with this? I had a similar situation with Japanese in-laws. Fortunately, I'm using GNOME, which has localisation for Japanese. I had to tweak their ~/.dmrc and add/alter: Language=ja_JP.UTF-8 Once they got past the English gdm login, they were presented with a Japanese lanaguage desktop. The ports which I had to install were: www/firefox35 www/firefox35-i18n mail/thunderbird mail/thunderbird-i18n japanese/scim-anthy I'm guessing that you'll have to do something similar for Korean, adding to ~/.dmrc: Language=ko-KR.UTF-8 and installing korean/scim-hangul; as well as firefox and thunderbird and their internationalisation support. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- If everything's under control, you're going too slow - Mario Andretti ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Merging Related Information from 2 Tables
On Thursday 29 October 2009 20:44:12 Martin McCormick wrote: Giorgos Keramidas writes: You should use a Perl or Python script, and a hash... If you show us a few sample lines from the input file and how you want the output to look, it shouldn't be too hard to quickly hack one of those together. The alternative is to use join(1). A records look like: hydrogen.cis.osu. 43200 IN A 192.168.2.123 Text or TXT records look similar [...] hydrogen.cis.osu. 5 IN TXT cordell-north,009,192.168.2.123 This will work well since the default join field is the first field in the line. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
On Thursday 29 October 2009 21:58:54 Lars Eighner wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Ruben de Groot wrote: sendmail is NOT a legacy application. It's actively being developed ON FreeBSD. Actually, the maintainer(s) are doing a great job Bullshit. Why does sendmail call up the internet during boot? If it needs to know who it is, why can't it look in hosts? Since it cannot be trusted to send mail, what does it need to know from the internet? It has been horribly broken for the 15 years or so that I have run FBSD, and this m4 stuff is a pile of crap. There is no documentation whatsoever. Unless you buy a book from O'Reilly and line the pockets of the maintainer(s). Why can't it be a option to configure the system without it? Not any money in that, is there? This is exactly the sort of ill-informed religious rant that always comes up when sendmail is discussed, and makes me wonder why some people are so vehemently anti-sendmail that they feel the need to say things which are only marginally true if that. My laptop boots quite happily without an Internet connection, so it's simply not true to say that sendmail always calls the Internet during boot. Have a look at /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README, and at /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/doc/op (where you can make the sendmail operations guide in a variety of formats including pdf) and you'll realise that your claim that there's no documentation is also flat-out false. I've got the Bat book (in fact I've got *looks at bookshelf* the 2nd and 3rd editions). I almost never look at them any more because I can find what I need in the documentation provided with sendmail. No-one is asking you to use sendmail, or even to like it, but please don't lie about it; and if you don't want sendmail in the base system, do as several people have suggested, pull your finger out and do the work to fix it. Jonathan (Just in case, I should probably point out explicitly that, as usual, I don't speak for my employer: this is an entirely personal opinion). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? Almost everyone I've ever spoken to about why they dislike sendmail trots out a bunch of cliches based on sendmail 8.8. People, we're up to sendmail 8.14 now. Get over it! Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or are you suggesting the system ship with no way to handle mail? Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 18:04:41 Jacques Henry wrote: Alternatively, from the commandline try ntpd -g -q -c /etc/ntp.conf The -g flag allows ntpd to set the clock once regardless of the offset and the -q causes it to quit after setting the time. I tried this command without success... I can see the NTP packets (client and server) but the clock is never set Are you running with an elevated securelevel? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 18:44:57 Jon Radel wrote: Jacques Henry wrote: I commented the commands involved and nothing changed... (with only 10 minutes of time difference) The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time. Slewing 587 seconds takes days. I even tried to force the sync: U450XA0A0800650nstop ntp U450XA0A0800650ntpd -x -n -q -c /var/ntp.conf U450XA0A0800650nstart ntp Are you sure that -x in there, telling ntpd to not step unless the offset is over 600 sec, doesn't override what you're trying to do with the -q? How about you try simple: ntpdate the_windows_server and see what that does? After that look in /var/log/messages. In fact I am still quite convinced that the MS implementation isn't totally compliant with the client... Could be, but ntpq was showing that your ntpd was accepting time data from the Windows server at least on some level. Alternatively, from the commandline try ntpd -g -q -c /etc/ntp.conf The -g flag allows ntpd to set the clock once regardless of the offset and the -q causes it to quit after setting the time. In /etc/rc.conf, all you should need is ntpd_enable=YES ntpd_sync_on_start=YES The second option adds -g to the ntpd flags, allowing it to set the clock at startup and continue running. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
