Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes harder (memory loss)... On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). Hi Why would you want a window manager on your servers? Do you all work directly on the consoles? Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and access your servers remotely? It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and services from the commandline with ssh. Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. This is what I tend to roll-out for other (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured this works great for them. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
Thank you, being a Windows guy, I didn't know about webmin, tried it and was impressed. New Server coming up no GUI... On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). Hi Why would you want a window manager on your servers? Do you all work directly on the consoles? Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and access your servers remotely? It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and services from the commandline with ssh. Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. This is what I tend to roll-out for other (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured this works great for them. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
Well. I don't really know what I'm doing but you offer some great advice, thanks. For an old man I learn fast, I don't mind doing research and of course RTFM :-) On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:10 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote: Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a regular basis? Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it. Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI tools to get rid of hands on work may be a better choice. This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any administrator. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this email! Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org