Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before
Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have
a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes
harder (memory loss)...

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
 On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
  I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
  research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
  Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
  it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/
 
  On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
  read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
  popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
  new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
  Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
  wanted the GUI).
 Hi
 Why would you want a window manager on your servers?
 Do you all work directly on the consoles?
 Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and
 access your servers remotely?
 It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and
 services from the commandline with ssh.
 Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also.
 This is what I tend to roll-out for other
 (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured
 this works great for them.
 
 
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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
Thank you, being a Windows guy, I didn't know about webmin, tried it and
was impressed. New Server coming up no GUI...

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote:
 On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote:
  I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
  research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
  Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
  it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/
 
  On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
  read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
  popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
  new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
  Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
  wanted the GUI).
 Hi
 Why would you want a window manager on your servers?
 Do you all work directly on the consoles?
 Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and
 access your servers remotely?
 It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and
 services from the commandline with ssh.
 Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also.
 This is what I tend to roll-out for other
 (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured
 this works great for them.
 
 
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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-10 Thread Juan C. Valido
Well. I don't really know what I'm doing but you offer some great
advice, thanks. For an old man I learn fast, I don't mind doing research
and of course RTFM :-)

On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:10 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote:
  Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a
  regular basis?
  Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications)
  on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g.
  unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating.
 
 I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new
 perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a
 linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it.
 Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI
 tools to get rid of hands on work may be a better choice.
 This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what
 you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any
 administrator. :-)


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Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?

2011-03-09 Thread Juan C. Valido
I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of
research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God
Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes
it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/

On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to 
 read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any 
 popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile 
 new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu 
 Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really 
 wanted the GUI).
 
 If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ 
 Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this 
 email!
 
 Thanks.
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