Re: OpenGL and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
You actually found a site that had drivers for FreeBSD? I was under the
impression that such a thing didn't exist. Basically this card has no 3d
acceleration support in FreeBSD.

Ken

On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

 This weekend I installed KDE and noticed that the OpenGL screen savers were
 incredibly slow.  It is clear that the graphic accelleration provided by my
 ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card is not being used.  I found a site that had
 drivers apparently for FreeBSD, but it didn't seem to work.  I am running
 FreeBSD 5.1.  Are there adequate drivers out there to support this?

 Tom Veldhouse

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Re: OpenGL and ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
Those drivers are not for 3D support. Those are for getting things like TV
out on laptops and cards that have it to work.

Ken

On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

 http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php

 The binary drivers do not work, presumably because they were compiled with
 gcc-2.95.2?  I think the modules for X (not the kernel modules) are supposed
 to be portable between platforms (i.e. Linux and FreeBSD).  However, you can
 CVS source and try to build from there, but I have had no luck as I have not
 been able to login:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ati]$
 cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gatos login
 Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/gatos
 CVS password:
 cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)

 I have the drivers working great under Linux using Gentoo ... but I would
 like my workstation to be FreeBSD for the obvious reason ... but I need
 accellerated OpenGL support.

 Tom Veldhouse

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  You actually found a site that had drivers for FreeBSD? I was under the
  impression that such a thing didn't exist. Basically this card has no 3d
  acceleration support in FreeBSD.
 
  Ken
 
  On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
 
   This weekend I installed KDE and noticed that the OpenGL screen savers
 were
   incredibly slow.  It is clear that the graphic accelleration provided by
 my
   ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card is not being used.  I found a site that
 had
   drivers apparently for FreeBSD, but it didn't seem to work.  I am
 running
   FreeBSD 5.1.  Are there adequate drivers out there to support this?
  
   Tom Veldhouse
  
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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 Hi,
 There are things called winmodems and winprinters which do require Windows
 as some of the work the hardware would normally do is handeled on the CPU.
 However I've found FreeBSD to work on 99% of the hardware I've chucked at
 it without any problems. sometimes its take a bit of work to but normally
 it will be fine. If you let us know what sort of hardware you have got I'm
 sure we can help you

Yeah, you should be fine as long as you don't expect 3d acceleration on
the latest video cards. My ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, along with anything from
9500 up don't have 3d acceleration support, and anything later than a
geforce 4 from nvidia is missing 3d support as well.

Ken

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RE: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 I have the ATI Raedon 7500 all in wonder, and finding out if the tv
 tuner works in freebsd or not has been quite fruitless so far.

Google for gatos.

Ken

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  To: Rus Foster
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  Subject: Re: software/hardware question
 
 
   Hi,
   There are things called winmodems and winprinters which do
  require Windows
   as some of the work the hardware would normally do is
  handeled on the CPU.
   However I've found FreeBSD to work on 99% of the hardware
  I've chucked at
   it without any problems. sometimes its take a bit of work
  to but normally
   it will be fine. If you let us know what sort of hardware
  you have got I'm
   sure we can help you
  
  Yeah, you should be fine as long as you don't expect 3d
  acceleration on
  the latest video cards. My ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, along with
  anything from
  9500 up don't have 3d acceleration support, and anything later than a
  geforce 4 from nvidia is missing 3d support as well.
 
  Ken
 
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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 Except that the Gatos drivers i general need an patched linux DRM kernel
 module and/or at least the Video4Linux linux kernel subsystem. To my
 knowledge freebsd doesn't support either. (Although I'm a bit outdated
 since i gave up on gatos and ATI-tuners/video inn/out chipsetts about a
 year ago.)


I've had it working fine on my FreeBSD machine.

Ken

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Re: free?

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 I'm a bit confused -- your website clearly states that freeBSD is a free
 OS, yet each of the sites that offer the CD charge money for it.  Am I
 missing something here?

It's free to download, or you can buy cd's. Usually as far as I know, the
CD's come with some other extras as well.

Ken

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RE: free?

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 I am down with a few dollars.  However, after perusing a few of the
 sites, the bare minimum cheapest going rate seems to be around $30.
 Anyone know of any cheaper freebsd CDs out there?  Student rate perhaps?

Why can't you just download it?

Ken

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Re: free?

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
 Want to build a network appliance to run a proprietary firewall
 product and use FreeBSD as the operating system?  Want to keep your
 modifications proprietary? Go right ahead -- Nokia did exactly that.
 What to lift the entire IP networking stack and use it in a new
 proprietary OS -- fine: that's what Microsoft did -- see the
 acknowledgements to Luigi Rizzo (FreeBSD committer:
 http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/) and the University of California,
 Berkeley in
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/proddocs/standard/copyright.asp

The page you're looking for has been moved or removed from the site.


If you're looking for a particular document, please try one of the
following areas: ...

That's what comes up when I type that URL.

Ken

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