Re: shutdown -p doesn't power-off USB
For me it's even worse. http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=29700 It occurs after the first world rebuilding and I can't solve it since months. And only occurs since 9.0 is out. 9 RC3 worked fine. However the fresh install from the 9.0 stable disk also works fine until building and installing kernel and world from src. The kernel is GENERIC and I run mergemaster properly every time it's needed. All my computers having this issue are on ZFS root and all work properly except the shutdown and reboot. Mage On 03/31/2012 17:38, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: hello world\n I'm running 9-STABLE/amd64 and for a few months now, whenever I shut down with shutdown -p now, the USB devices still have power. This is most visible on the USB keyboard, where *all* LEDs are turned on and stay on. The MB is an ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe. The USB related sysctls are: # sysctl -aw|grep -i usb descrUSB1008A Flash Disk/descr device usb hw.pci.usb_early_takeover: 1 hw.usb.no_shutdown_wait: 0 hw.usb.no_boot_wait: 0 hw.usb.debug: 0 hw.usb.usb_lang_mask: 255 hw.usb.usb_lang_id: 9 hw.usb.template: 0 hw.usb.power_timeout: 30 hw.usb.no_pf: 0 hw.usb.no_cs_fail: 0 dev.uhci.0.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-D dev.uhci.0.%location: slot=26 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB4 dev.uhci.1.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-E dev.uhci.1.%location: slot=26 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB5 dev.uhci.2.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-F dev.uhci.2.%location: slot=26 function=2 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB6 dev.uhci.3.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-A dev.uhci.3.%location: slot=29 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB0 dev.uhci.4.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-B dev.uhci.4.%location: slot=29 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB1 dev.uhci.5.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-C dev.uhci.5.%location: slot=29 function=2 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB2 dev.usbus.0.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-D dev.usbus.0.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.0.%parent: uhci0 dev.usbus.1.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-E dev.usbus.1.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.1.%parent: uhci1 dev.usbus.2.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-F dev.usbus.2.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.2.%parent: uhci2 dev.usbus.3.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB 2.0 controller USB-B dev.usbus.3.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.3.%parent: ehci0 dev.usbus.4.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.4.%parent: xhci0 dev.usbus.5.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-A dev.usbus.5.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.5.%parent: uhci3 dev.usbus.6.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-B dev.usbus.6.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.6.%parent: uhci4 dev.usbus.7.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB controller USB-C dev.usbus.7.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.7.%parent: uhci5 dev.usbus.8.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB 2.0 controller USB-A dev.usbus.8.%driver: usbus dev.usbus.8.%parent: ehci1 dev.ehci.0.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB 2.0 controller USB-B dev.ehci.0.%location: slot=26 function=7 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USBE dev.ehci.1.%desc: Intel 82801JI (ICH10) USB 2.0 controller USB-A dev.ehci.1.%location: slot=29 function=7 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.EUSB dev.xhci.0.%desc: XHCI (generic) USB 3.0 controller dev.uhub.0.%parent: usbus0 dev.uhub.1.%parent: usbus1 dev.uhub.2.%parent: usbus2 dev.uhub.3.%parent: usbus3 dev.uhub.4.%parent: usbus4 dev.uhub.5.%parent: usbus5 dev.uhub.6.%parent: usbus6 dev.uhub.7.%parent: usbus7 dev.uhub.8.%parent: usbus8 dev.ums.0.%desc: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0, rev 2.00/22.00, addr 2 dev.uhid.0.%desc: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0, rev 2.00/22.00, addr 2 Any help appreciated in telling me how to turn off USB power with shutdown. Regards, Jens ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
connection speed (Rails performance)
Hello, it is my second attempt to switch from Gentoo to FreeBSD because: - if you google for FreeBSD you get sexy images of girls in red wear (turn safe search off) - I am a bit tired to upgrade my hardened servers - zfs supposed to work better and faster However I'am stuck at the same issue where I gave up half year ago. After setting up Ruby on Rails 3 (with rvm), Apache22 and Postgres, I ran some apache benchmarks and figured out that while FreeBSD wins at slow pages, at faster pages FreeBSD (for me) is way slower than Gentoo. A dynamic page: Gentoo: # ab -n 1000 -c 12 http://randi7/ This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 $Revision: 655654 $ Requests per second:169.88 [#/sec] (mean) FreeBSD: # ab -n 1000 -c 12 http://randi7/ This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 $Revision: 655654 $ Requests per second:59.31 [#/sec] (mean) A static page: $ echo hello public/index.html Gentoo: # ab -n 1000 -c 12 http://randi7/ This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 $Revision: 655654 $ Requests per second:25047.59 [#/sec] (mean) FreeBSD: # ab -n 1000 -c 12 http://randi7/ This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 $Revision: 655654 $ Requests per second:6160.29 [#/sec] (mean) The faster the page is generated the bigger the difference is in requests per seconds. I experienced the very same results half year ago at my first attemp to migrate to FreeBSD. All tests were done with more or less current kernels (both systems). This is a totally fresh install on a different computer. Half year ago I tried all of apache, thin, mongrel, nginx and the outcome was same. I guess it might be something with the connection but I don't know what. Of course all tests were ran on localhosts. How could I improve this? Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pkg_add vs portmaster
Hello, why is that pkg_add -r x11/kde4 could not install kde4 (404 not found) but portmaster -P x11/kde4 did, however portmaster -P xorg didn't install xorg (it just reinstalled some modules) then pkg_add -r xorg installed it. I am a bit confused with these. I was reading this: http://freebsd.kde.org/ and this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html First I installed kde4 then xorg. My ports are up to date. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: make the iso image
On 05/11/2011 04:50 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:24:39 -0700, mohammad abedini abedini.erics...@gmail.com wrote: I plan to make the FreeBSD installation with facilities in my state This looks as if you want to create your own installation media. The make release operation is intended for that task. However I (not the original sender) would like to create just a LiveDVD from my install, because I upgraded to zpool version and didn't find any official release or snapshot which can mount that. It would be only a rescue DVD, not installer medium. Is there a shorter way than make release? I don't even need a gui on that DVD just some basic tools and zpool v28. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
kernel and buildworld questions
Hello, I just arrived to FreeBSD soon after I met silent data corruption on one of my software raid mirrors and went looking ZFS capable OS. So far I like it, I suppose I will migrate, however some issues appeared already. First of all, I think this manual doesn't work anymore: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/ZFSBootPartition I did it very precise multiple times and I tried the other version too (create zroot /dev/ad0s3a vs. create zroot /dev/ad0s3). After googling a while I think the MBR bootloader just doesn't work for pool version 15+. It hangs on boot. I tried with 8.2 installer, snapshot and PC-BSD too. I ended up UFS boot + ZFS with PCBSD install disk (but FreeBSD install). Later I will try GPT manually. My question is that does the FreeBSD kernel and its loader use some kind of checksuming? Initially my move to FreeBSD was inspired by the fear of bit rot. Maybe it seems to be paranoid but I would like to be sure that everything loads in perfect condition. Even the kernel image. Is it checked somehow in case of UFS boot? After installing the system I upgraded it to the current release by the manual. Upgraded zpool to v28. I installed Xorg, KDE and E17 from ports. Everything was fine and working. Then I played with /etc/make.conf and accidentally set incorrect CPU type (I missed my laptop with my desktop). I set athlon64 instead of core2. After some installation and testing I realized that cvsup stops with signal 4. So does 'rvm install 1.9.2' (ruby userspace installer). Other things like Xorg and KDE were still working. I decided to repair the system instead of reinstalling. Not because I have anything valuable on it. Just because I would like to learn FreeBSD fast and I think that fixing errors helps more than blind reinstall with a GUI. In my dmesg I see this: pid 2780 (cvsup), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) pid 8865 (cvsup), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) pid 27368 (miniruby), uid 1001: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) pid 34725 (cvsup), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) Other commands don't do signal 4 (gcc, make, and related things work) it doesn't look really bad for me. First I thought the signal 4 is because some ports were compiled with bad cflags. Deinstalling and reinstalling didn't help. After some failed attempts I finally ran: portupgrade -afkP I think this replaced all my ports to binary packages. However I still got signal 4 for 'rvm install' and 'cvsup' both. I fixed my make.conf to 'core2' cpu and removed everthing else (cflags), and made: cd /usr/obj rm -rf * cd /usr/src make cleandir make cleandir make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel reboot make installworld reboot And this didn't help. After this I was not sure even core2 is fine in make.conf (yes I have core2), I changed it to 'CPUTYPE?=native', without defining any cflags I rebuilt the world and the kernel and I still get signal 4. It does frustrate me. I should be able to fix it. Actually I am recompiling the world without any make.conf, but it takes hours. How should I repair my test system? What did I miss? Thank you. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
On 05/10/2011 08:10 PM, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Hi, If you initially compiled your ports using the -p option of portupgrade, then using the -P option of portupgrade will install the ports using the package files that you have generated rather than fetching them from the server. If you want to fetch the binaries rather than recompile it on your system, make sure to delete any package from /usr/ports/packages/All before using portupgrade -afkP That folder was empty for sure. When I have been running portupgrade -afkP I also ran ran 'ls -l | wc' in that folder to see how many packages I fetched. To check the progress. I had about 344 packages, all installed from ports and I ended up having 360 packages after the portupgrade command. All were downloaded except one or two (maybe xterm) which was installed from ports as the remote package was not the latest version. I also ran portsclean -C before switching to binary packages. I still have some history on console: [root@eden /usr/ports/packages/All]# ls -l total 156160 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel169882 Apr 27 22:18 aalib-1.4.r5_5.tbz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel630601 Apr 27 22:11 autoconf-2.68.tbz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3641 Apr 27 21:30 autoconf-wrapper-20101119.tbz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3509 Apr 27 21:30 automake-wrapper-20101119.tbz They are dated Apr 27. I installed this system 3-4 days ago. Also 'rvm install 1.9.2' drops signal 4. I think it only uses make and gcc. However, make buildworld and buildkernel finishes successfully. I wouldn't like to give up. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
On 05/10/2011 08:35 PM, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: By the way you don't really need to use the cvsup package anymore, as there is now the csup command that is part of FreeBSD. Regarding the core dumps, maybe you should tried running portsclean -PLD to remove old packages, libraries and distfiles from your system.If you can reproduce easily the core dumps, maybe you can find which libraries causes the processes to crash using gdb Thank you for helping. I tried: [root@eden ~]# cvsup sup_standard Connected to cvsup.de.FreeBSD.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Edit src/bin/sh/expand.c Illegal instruction: 4 (core dumped) [root@eden ~]# portsclean -PLD Detecting unreferenced distfiles... no unreferenced distfiles found. Cleaning out /usr/ports/packages... Delete /usr/ports/packages/All/ezm3-1.1_2.tbz [root@eden ~]# cvsup sup_standard Connected to cvsup.de.FreeBSD.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Edit src/bin/sh/expand.c Illegal instruction: 4 (core dumped) All my packages must be binary now as this system didn't exist in April: [mage@eden ~]$ cd /usr/ports/packages/All/ [mage@eden /usr/ports/packages/All]$ ls -l | grep Apr | wc 3513159 24777 [mage@eden /usr/ports/packages/All]$ ls -l | grep May | wc 0 0 0 Any of them would have date from May if built from ports. Where can I see the core dump? In dmesg I see only this: pid 12239 (cvsup), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) (Or 'miniruby' when I try to build ruby 1.9.2) Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
On 05/10/2011 09:10 PM, Ivan Klymenko wrote: [root@eden ~]# cvsup sup_standard Connected to cvsup.de.FreeBSD.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Edit src/bin/sh/expand.c Illegal instruction: 4 (core dumped) rm /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC I thought you are joking, but I tried: [root@eden ~]# cvsup sup_standard Connected to cvsup.de.FreeBSD.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Edit src/bin/sh/expand.c Illegal instruction: 4 (core dumped) [root@eden ~]# mv /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC ./ [root@eden ~]# cvsup sup_standard Connected to cvsup.de.FreeBSD.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Edit src/bin/sh/expand.c Edit src/bin/sh/main.c [...] Edit src/usr.sbin/usbdump/usbdump.c Finished successfully How could this help? Now I still have to fix rvm install: ruby-1.9.2-p180 - #compiling ERROR: Error running 'make ', please read /home/mage/.rvm/log/ruby-1.9.2-p180/make.log ERROR: There has been an error while running make. Halting the installation. gcc -O3 -g -Wextra -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-long-long -fPIC -L. -rdynamic main.o dmydln.o dmyencoding.o dmyversion.o miniprelude.o array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o complex.o dir.o dln_find.o enum.o enumerator.o error.o eval.o load.o proc.o file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o node.o numeric.o object.o pack.o parse.o process.o random.o range.o rational.o re.o regcomp.o regenc.o regerror.o regexec.o regparse.o regsyntax.o ruby.o safe.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o strftime.o string.o struct.o time.o transcode.o util.o variable.o compile.o debug.o iseq.o vm.o vm_dump.o thread.o cont.o ascii.o us_ascii.o unicode.o utf_8.o newline.o close.o dmyext.o -lthr -lrt -lcrypt -lm -o miniruby *** Signal 4 It was working with PCBSD install (my very first install). I should try a different version of GCC. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
Since it core dumps with Illegal instruction, it looks like there cvsup is still using some of the ports you compiled with the wrong flags. I would try the following: 1) Rename your file /etc/make.conf such that the system stops using it (just in case there is still something wrong with it 2) run pkg_deinstall -Rf cvsup (or cvsup-without-gui, depending on what you installed exactly) 3) cd /usr/ports/cvsup (or cvsup-without-gui) 4) make clean install 5) Try cvsup again I did these steps yesterday. The only difference was that I used pkg_cutleaves instead of pkg_deinstall (in several times to remove dependencies too). Removing the UTC zoneinfo file helped with cvsup singal 4. I have no idea why. I still can't compile ruby with rvm and gcc46: gcc46 -O3 -g -Wextra -Wno-unused-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-long-long -fPIC -L. -rdynamic main.o dmydln.o dmyencoding.o dmyversion.o miniprelude.o array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o complex.o dir.o dln_find.o enum.o enumerator.o error.o eval.o load.o proc.o file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o node.o numeric.o object.o pack.o parse.o process.o random.o range.o rational.o re.o regcomp.o regenc.o regerror.o regexec.o regparse.o regsyntax.o ruby.o safe.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o strftime.o string.o struct.o time.o transcode.o util.o variable.o compile.o debug.o iseq.o vm.o vm_dump.o thread.o cont.o ascii.o us_ascii.o unicode.o utf_8.o newline.o close.o dmyext.o -lthr -lrt -lcrypt -lm -o miniruby *** Signal 4 I have libmap.conf as mentioned in the manual. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
On 05/10/2011 09:40 PM, Ivan Klymenko wrote: begin http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20091215140234.GA94567 Thank you. I think I will need UTC zoneinfo so I will check csup. I still have no idea about the rvm install. Maybe I'll backup and revert to an earlier snapshot to see if it compiles with the first built world. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
On 05/10/2011 09:55 PM, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: If the -O3 argument in the command above comes from your make.conf, it is possible that this level of optimisation causes gcc46 to crash for these particular input files... You can try lowering the level of optimisation as a whole when building ruby, or to reduce the optimisation level only when linking miniruby gcc46 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=native -fPIC -L. -rdynamic main.o dmydln.o dmyencoding.o dmyversion.o miniprelude.o array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o complex.o dir.o dln_find.o enum.o enumerator.o error.o eval.o load.o proc.o file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o node.o numeric.o object.o pack.o parse.o process.o random.o range.o rational.o re.o regcomp.o regenc.o regerror.o regexec.o regparse.o regsyntax.o ruby.o safe.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o strftime.o string.o struct.o time.o transcode.o util.o variable.o compile.o debug.o iseq.o vm.o vm_dump.o thread.o cont.o ascii.o us_ascii.o unicode.o utf_8.o newline.o close.o dmyext.o -lthr -lrt -lcrypt -lm -o miniruby *** Signal 4 gcc46 -O1 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=native -fPIC -L. -rdynamic main.o dmydln.o dmyencoding.o dmyversion.o miniprelude.o array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o complex.o dir.o dln_find.o enum.o enumerator.o error.o eval.o load.o proc.o file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o node.o numeric.o object.o pack.o parse.o process.o random.o range.o rational.o re.o regcomp.o regenc.o regerror.o regexec.o regparse.o regsyntax.o ruby.o safe.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o strftime.o string.o struct.o time.o transcode.o util.o variable.o compile.o debug.o iseq.o vm.o vm_dump.o thread.o cont.o ascii.o us_ascii.o unicode.o utf_8.o newline.o close.o dmyext.o -lthr -lrt -lcrypt -lm -o miniruby *** Signal 4 I the meanwhile I made a new world, I will try that too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
On 05/10/2011 10:16 PM, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: It is not necessarily the -O. It can also be the -march=native ... gcc46 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -L. -rdynamic main.o dmydln.o dmyencoding.o dmyversion.o miniprelude.o array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o complex.o dir.o dln_find.o enum.o enumerator.o error.o eval.o load.o proc.o file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o node.o numeric.o object.o pack.o parse.o process.o random.o range.o rational.o re.o regcomp.o regenc.o regerror.o regexec.o regparse.o regsyntax.o ruby.o safe.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o strftime.o string.o struct.o time.o transcode.o util.o variable.o compile.o debug.o iseq.o vm.o vm_dump.o thread.o cont.o ascii.o us_ascii.o unicode.o utf_8.o newline.o close.o dmyext.o -lthr -lrt -lcrypt -lm -o miniruby *** Signal 4 I am absolutely sure that I successfully compiled the very same ruby version with RVM and a fresh PCBSD install. I can't recall if I did it with any of my FreeBSD installs (I did 2 or 3, playing with ZFS). Propably didn't. Now I try to revert to an early snapshot and see. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
On 05/10/2011 10:34 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: You've tried it with an empty make.conf file first, I assume? Actually I don't have make.conf, I renamed it. It doesn't matter for RVM. It doesn't use it. I exported CC, GCC, CFLAGS and so for rvm install. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel and buildworld questions
On 05/10/2011 10:59 PM, Mage wrote: Actually I don't have make.conf, I renamed it. It doesn't matter for RVM. It doesn't use it. I exported CC, GCC, CFLAGS and so for rvm install. The rvm install signal 4 seems to be general problem, http://code.google.com/p/rubyenterpriseedition/issues/detail?id=6#makechanges I just wonder it works on PCBSD. Thank you for the help. Mage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
