With fresh 9.1 install, bash completion no longer expands $HOME
On my 9.0-based machines, if I typed $HOME[tab] when typing a command in bash, the $HOME would be overwritten by the actual path to my home directory (the value of $HOME) and tab completion would work as expected. After a fresh 9.1 install, this does not work as well. $HOME is still detected by completion, but it is not expanded after pressing tab (this does not matter to me), but also an extra space is inserted after tab. For example, if I have a directory named src under my home directory, and my working directory is an unrelated directory, and I type cd $HOME/sr[tab]: Under 9.0: cd /home/dcaldwell/src/[cursor] Under 9.1: cd $HOME/src [cursor] So under 9.1 I lose the slash and see a space instead, essentially, which renders this not very useful. If I use ~ rather than $HOME, it works correctly under both. Obviously I could probably learn to type ~ rather than $HOME but it would be a hard habit to break after years. :) For bash (and for most software) I am using binary packages from the -release distribution, so my 9.0 machines have 4.1.11 and my 9.1 machines have 4.2.37. I don't know enough about all the moving parts to know where to start tracking this down, so can someone point me in the right direction? (Unless there's an known problem or change I'm missing.) I can't figure out where completion is configured in bash outside the /usr/local/etc/bash_completion.d/ directory, which incidentally on my 9.1 setup contains: $ ls /usr/local/etc/bash_completion.d/ dbus-bash-completion.sh*gdbus-bash-completion.sh* gsettings-bash-completion.sh* Thanks, -- David Caldwell http://www.davidpcaldwell.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: small fanless mini-pc for home router/firewall?
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM, firm...@gmail.com firm...@gmail.com wrote: What is the best option out there for a mini-pc to run FreeBSD as a home router/firewall? (needs to have 2 nic's) I had some pretty good experiences with older Soekris models (net-4801) acting as fanless routers and little servers (DHCP, NFS, lighttpd, etc...). http://soekris.com/products/net4801.html I don't know how well their newer products run on FreeBSD though, especially after the switch to clang. Others on this list may be able to add their experiences. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Youtube Flash Videos broken?
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:57:47 +0200 Ralf Mardorf articulated: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the video can be watched? Wicked! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. Perhaps we should switch to Windows :D. SICR I have pretty much given up on using Firefox with FreeBSD on sites that utilize Flash. It usually just sucks. Sites like comedy Central are just not view-able utilizing that combination. I use my Windows PC or Laptop for those times. Plus, I can keep Flash and or Java up-to-date far easier. Nearly the same here: I'm keeping two virtual machines on my FreeBSD laptop: a Windows 7 and a Linux one, and I'm starting the Win7 VM when I stumble across that oddball Flash-only website that would not even display on the Linux VM. This way, I'm keeping a clean and lean FreeBSD environment, unpolluted by tons of Linuxulator compat libraries needed just to make that flash plugin work. Plus, it's easier to reset the Win7 VM to a previous virus-free stage after each use... even though something like this http://www.qubes-os.org/trac would be even better, I assume. ;) -- Jerry ♔ -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Jeff Belyea jbely...@gmail.com wrote: I have a new computer with windows 8, which I hate with a passion. I don't play music and I don't do a lot of pictures. Basically I only search, some EBay and games. Can I replace win8 with BSD? Of course you can. I suggest that you 0. make a full backup of your win8 drive... just in case you want to go back. You may also want to extract the win8 product key and write it down: * http://superuser.com/questions/495794/how-can-i-find-the-product-key-that-was-used-to-activate-windows-8 * http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/30363-Windows-8-Product-Key-Viewer 1. fetch a memstick image e.g. from here: ftp://ftp2.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/9.1/FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img and write it with your favorite application on a USB flash drive. 2. switch your computer firmware from UEFI to CSM (compatibility support module), a.k.a. old BIOS mode, so you can boot external media. 3. boot from the USB flash drive, and experiment with FreeBSD. 4. install to disk (eventually after resizing and repartitioning the win8 part if you want to keep that). Good luck! -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: The future of USENET?
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Hello, This is a bit OT, but maybe some of you FreeBSD folks are as well affected like me and/or have any answer or comments... In the past I've used a lot the so called newsgroups, even running my own inn news server for our company and nn as the newsreader. I liked to post there technical (and other) questions and answers, or I've google'ed for solutions. Nowadays there is a big silence :-( Where have all the people gone? Is USENET coming to its end? Well, the public Usenet forums are dwindling, but still there, and some of them are still quite active. Usenet is also still doing well in closed communities which can afford to run a newsserver (e.g. some Universities). I wouldn't write off Usenet yet; neither as a technology nor as a real network. -cpghost. matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: The future of USENET?
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/27/2013 3:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:12:06 -0400, grarpamp wrote: Now there are very few, if any, free servers There are still free news servers available. My ISP bundles usenet, nevertheless I prefer the free one as it's faster and more reliable. The last ISP I knew had usenet complained about the bandwidth and storage required. If they carried alt.binaries.*, then yes: it was a legitimate concern. To carry those groups requires enormous bandwidth, and bandwidth costs money, a lot of money. Storage isn't really an issue though.., even with smallish retention periods of 60 days or so. That's what commercial Usenet providers a la Giganews are for: they have some very big pipes and the necessary storage infrastructure for many-years retention, and can pay for all this through their subscribers fees. I see no problems that regular ISPs dropped Usenet as part of their standard offering, as long as alternatives such as those Usenet providers are available for a couple of bucks per month to those who need them. They had a dedicated satellite instead of using their backbone, and only cached a couple days. All the porn and warez has the side affect of wiping out the cost benefit. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Status of Xen/Dom0 on FreeBSD?
Hello, I'm wondering if there's been some progress on the Xen/Dom0 front recently. The Wiki https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen still doesn't show any improvements in this area, but it may also be outdated (?). Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Status of Xen/Dom0 on FreeBSD?
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote: On 26/03/2013 23:30, C. P. Ghost wrote: Hello, I'm wondering if there's been some progress on the Xen/Dom0 front recently. The Wiki https://wiki.freebsd.org/**FreeBSD/Xenhttps://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen still doesn't show any improvements in this area, but it may also be outdated (?). Not sure about any Xen/Dom0 work but I get the impression that bhyve is the focus of freebsd development in that area. https://wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve Interesting! Thanks for the hint. However, that's not what I'm looking for. I'm interested in running a type-1 Hypervisor with FreeBSD as the host (as in Xen/Dom0) and all kinds of DomU clients (FreeBSD, Linux, Windows, etc.). The host machine will be a server with at least 90 GB RAM (later up to 512 GB) and plenty of SAS/SATA drives. Since I'm considering running ZFS on those drives at the host level, and serving the clients on top of that, FreeBSD as Xen/Dom0 seems like a good idea... if it was already available. However, I'm not sure yet if ZFS would be advisable for this scenario or if it would kill performance. If not, I wouldn't mind running Xen/Dom0 with some lightweight Linux distro as host, and FreeBSD as DomU. It wouldn't be as nice as a native FreeBSD setup, but it's better than nothing. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Grepping though a disk
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: Any suggestion is welcome! How about crawling the metadata, locating each block that is already allocated, and skip those blocks when you scan the disk? That could reduce the searching space significantly. blkls(1) et al. from the Sleuth Kit are your friends. Good luck, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: an upto date list of new ports
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote: is there a site or other location that lists *NEW* (not updated) ports since a given date? http://www.freshports.org/ has some limited options (24hrs, 48hrs, 7days, one month)... but since the ports tree is now under SVN, it's probably easier to use SVN directly to find out. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Soekris or .. ?
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Julien Cigar jci...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Hello, I'm looking for a small Soekris-like (http://soekris.com/) box which support FreeBSD, any experience or brand to advise .. ? I'm using Soekris net4801 boxes with FreeBSD without problems since many years as small routers with pf, dhcp, bind, lighttpd etc... Last version i've tested is 8.3. I didn't update to 9.X yet for no other reasons than lack of time to try it, and I don't know if clang supports Geode well enough so I can't say anything about -CURRENT. But save for this, Soekris boxes and FreeBSD are a great match. Thank you, Julien -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Should I bother with a gvinum stripe when using a pair of SSDs?
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Jens Schweikhardt schwe...@schweikhardt.net wrote: hello, world\n currently the only gvinum partition on my home system is a stripe for /home across two Velociraptor HDDs. I'm thinking of replacing the HDDs with a pair of SSDs. I was thinking of reducing complexity and in the migration possibly no longer use gvinum at all--one less thing to configure and worry about. * Would gvinum striping bring any speed advantage with a pair of SSDs? * Or am I hitting other limits so that striping SSDs is a waste anyway? * Should I finally take the plunge and acquaint myself with ZFS? System has 4GB RAM in an ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe with SATA II. It appears to me that SATA II with 300MB/s is maxed out by a single SSD and striping it will not improve r/w throughput. Is my simplistic reasoning correct? Jens, as always it depends on what you're trying to achieve: - max speed / lower latency? - max storage? - max redundancy? - max run-time-to-data-loss? Your choice of SSD probably means you'd like to reduce latency and maximize data throughput. Since you're going SSD, I suspect that maximizing total storage capacity is definitely not your primary concern, right? In this case, you probably won't need some space-saving RAID variants (like RAID-5, RAID-Z, ...), therefore simple striping or mirroring would be adequate. However, striping puts your data at risk: lose one SSD, and the whole volume becomes unusable. Mirroring would at least preserve some redundancy. Moreover, by NOT using ZFS, you're sacrificing the by-sector checksumming that becomes rather important with SSD whose mode of failure tends to favor single (silent!) sector corruption that may go undetected for a while and grow worse over time. You may then want a mirrored ZFS configuration if this is a concern. Each solution has its pros and cons, and there are quite some trade offs in there. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Should I bother with a gvinum stripe when using a pair of SSDs?
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jens Schweikhardt schwe...@schweikhardt.net wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 04:44:06PM +0100, C. P. Ghost wrote: # On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Jens Schweikhardt # schwe...@schweikhardt.net wrote: # hello, world\n # # currently the only gvinum partition on my home system is a stripe for /home # across two Velociraptor HDDs. I'm thinking of replacing the HDDs with a # pair of SSDs. I was thinking of reducing complexity and in the migration # possibly no longer use gvinum at all--one less thing to configure and worry # about. # # * Would gvinum striping bring any speed advantage with a pair of SSDs? # * Or am I hitting other limits so that striping SSDs is a waste anyway? # * Should I finally take the plunge and acquaint myself with ZFS? # # System has 4GB RAM in an ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe with SATA II. It appears to me # that SATA II with 300MB/s is maxed out by a single SSD and striping it # will not improve r/w throughput. Is my simplistic reasoning correct? # # Jens, # # as always it depends on what you're trying to achieve: # - max speed / lower latency? # - max storage? # - max redundancy? # - max run-time-to-data-loss? # # Your choice of SSD probably means you'd like to reduce latency # and maximize data throughput. Exactly, when I started vith vinum many years ago in the magnetic HD age, striping with vinum gave me almost factor 2 in r/w speed as measured with dd. (I do backups regularly to other media, so data loss protection is not my primary concern). I realize that maximum SSD speeds as advertised by vendors and tests (e.g. 520MB/s for contemporary top notch SSDs) may only be reached under certain conditions far away from my normal usage, which is re-building worlds and kernels and ports on a daily basis. So if for my realworld working set a single SSD can deliver 300MB/s, striping with vinum just might get me a factor 2 again to 600MB/s across two SSDs. Then it would be worthwile to keep gvinum. Does that make sense? My understanding of SSD and SATA capabilities may however be completely dreamed up... Assuming the right cables etc.., I *guess* the limiting factor would ultimately be the (AHCI-)SATA controller itself, or even the bus to which it is attached. Add to this that embedded DMA controllers may compete for the bus, limiting transfer rates even more. I don't know how such a setup scales; that's way too system dependent. If you have hard requirements w.r.t. latency and throughput, you'll ultimately have to run some real world tests on the target system. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Entry level C++ projects
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM, alwin doss alwindos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am a C++ developer and I want to contribute to FreeBSD. There are so many applications. Is there any C++ project which is simple enough to start with. Thanks in advance for your help. Hi Alwin, there's indeed a lot to do, though it's mostly in plain C. If you want to help, please check out the PR-Database: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi and pick one problem report. Then try to fix it, and submit a (working) patch as a follow-up. That's an excellent way to get acquainted with the system and get some practice. ;-) Alwin Doss God's Beloved Kind regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Trying to find out how to mount as user
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote: Hello. I want to write a script, where I as a normal user, can back up my files with rsync to another machine (pc01), which shares a directory via NFS. I have an entry in the local machines /etc/fstab pc01:/backup /mnt/backupnfs rw,noauto 0 0 The command: mount /mnt/backup works as root. If I do sudo mount /mnt/backup I get [tcp] pc01:/backup: Permission denied I'm a member of the local wheel group and at the remote machine as well(pc01) pc01:/backup has drwxrwxr-x 28 root wheel 1024 1 Jan 14:44 backup/ The local mount point /mnt/backup has drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 1 Jan 17:18 mnt/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 1 Jan 11:38 backup/ I've tried to ad write permissions to the group, but it did not help me. I understand that I have a permission problem but I can't figure it out. Try setting vfs.usermount to 1: # sysctl vfs.usermount=1 -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: svn revision in uname
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:13 PM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: I hope it will be removed soon, it pollutes the uname -a output. I don't hope so. It helps us keep track of the exact revision numbers of deployed servers here. Please don't remove it, or at least, provide an additional switch to uname to retrieve it. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: updatedb?
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: $ sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb WARNING Executing updatedb as root. This WILL reveal all filenames on your machine to all login users, which is a security risk. $ Why is it a security risk? Security through obscurity? Really? In this day and age? Or am I missing something? Suppose someone managed to start a shell under your account and is seeking to escalate privileges, i.e. to become root. If he can look at a full unrestricted locatedb, he may pay particular attention to config files, log files etc... that may otherwise be hidden from sight. Just by looking at this, he may infer that a particular software package at a particular revision is actually running on that host and is configured in a particular way. E.g., he may see that logfiles accumulate in /var/log and are cleaned only once a week. It would be then easy to induce that program to create more log files, thus denying service to other programs that need /var as well. This, in turn, could result in real exploits of those other programs... Sure, most of this is already world-visible and in the regular locatedb because we're so liberal with the rights of /var/db/pkg, /var/log, /etc, ... but some admins prefer to hide particularly sensitive programs, their configs, logs etc., in a non-world-readable directory hierarchy. Running locate.updatedb(8) with root privileges would defeat that strategy. That's why it is discouraged. Of course, this is even more necessary when you have regular users on that machine that don't necessarily trust each others. They wouldn't like their home dirs to be world-readable by default by everyone else. Maybe they won't object (and set /home/$USER to -rwxr-xr-x instead of -rwxr-x--- or -rwx--) but that's their call, not the sysadmin's. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
serial connection
hello everyone, i need to establish a connection between 2 freebsd systems, but i have to this over a serial line, any advices? thank you all so much! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) writes: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: On 2012-11-17 21:36, Gary Aitken wrote: # portmaster -n emulators/wine-fbsd64 === No /usr/ports/emulators/wine-fbsd64 exists, and no information === about emulators/wine-fbsd64 can be found in /usr/ports/MOVED hints? There has never been such a port, you have to install from package. Ordinarily, packages are created by building ports. If this one is an exception, how is it created? I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK. Nope, not for amd64: % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 The wine and wine-devel ports won't even compile on amd64. There was some guy who claims to have managed creating a binary _package_ for amd64 somehow, and wo sent periodic announcement updates about to this list. I don't know if it was legit or not: I never install stuff bypassing ports. But apparently, he didn't create a _port_, nor did he modify/enhance the current i386-only wine ports. The name 'wine-fbsd64' looks strange. You installed it before? and when did you find this name? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.com wrote: 19.11.2012 14:34, Ivan Voras wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is BSDL-ed, and apparently has proper crypto signing using GPG: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/FAQ#FAQ.2FTechnicalDetails.How_do_Mercurial_hashes_get_calculated.3F :%s/BSD/LGP/ http://mercurial.selenic.com/about/ Even if it was BSD licensed, Mercurial has a huge dependency: Python; and Git is Perl-based. So neither of them is ideal, IMHO. If at all, we'd need a lean and mean distributed SCM program like Mercurial or Git, but written in C that we could add to base. Any volunteers? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws writes: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK. Nope, not for amd64: % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel/Makefile ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 The wine and wine-devel ports won't even compile on amd64. There was some guy who claims to have managed creating a binary _package_ for amd64 somehow, and wo sent periodic announcement updates about to this list. I don't know if it was legit or not: I never install stuff bypassing ports. But apparently, he didn't create a _port_, nor did he modify/enhance the current i386-only wine ports. The name 'wine-fbsd64' looks strange. You installed it before? and when did you find this name? -cpghost. Oh, I didn't know that and never try to install wine before. Thanks for your information. Volodymyr has pointed out that this was a port (and not a binary package) that never got committed. As a port, you can examine precisely what it does and it may be worth a try if you feel that it doesn't mess with your installation and doesn't compromise it. I didn't try it, can't say anything at all about it. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:59 AM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: joerg_wun...@uriah.heep.sax.de You don't even have a name Your domain indicates Germany, please have a chat with CCC.de about the various good uses for nyms. And consult your library for some fine historical use cases. If that's counter to your beliefs, you are free to show us the way and post all your personal infos to the list. Uh-oh grarpamp, I hope you realize whom you're trying to lecture here! Joerg Wunsch is a highly appreciated long-time FreeBSD contributor and was member of the Core Team for a long time (I met him in person in the 90-ies and he's a very kind person). I wouldn't dismiss his advice lightly, unless I had a very good reason. Now, back to our regular programming. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to correct corrupted ports tree?
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:56:21 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote: I don't see a way to force refetch of the actual ports files like distinfo when portsnap thinks the port is up to date. You cansolve the problem of few per-file mismatches by using the traditional CVS approach of updating the ports tree. Only files not matching the current (on-server) content will be updated. CVSup/csup is deprecated now and shouldn't be used anymore: http://www.freebsd.org/news/2012-compromise.html We should stop advertizing it as a way to update the ports tree. svn or portsnap is the way to go now. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Which NNTP newsreader for huge newsgroups?
Hello, I'm looking for an NNTP newsreader that can gracefully handle newsgroups with a *huge* number of posts, if possible with a moderate memory and CPU footprint. My newsreader of choice, news/tin, while quite good for newsgroups with a moderate number of articles can't cope with some alt.binaries.* groups that contain over 2,000,000+ active/unread articles. It effectively thrashes the system and consumes enormous amounts of swap space and CPU cycles just for opening such a newsgroup. It also takes ages to update the local index as well, because it keeps fetching headers for articles that don't even exist or should have been skipped, according to ~/.newsrc If you wonder about such huge newsgroups: they are increasingly common now that commercial NNTP providers are over 1,000+ retention days for binaries, and some of those newsgroups are being flooded with crap in an attempt to DoS them. What NNTP newsreader are you using? Which one would you recommend for those huge newsgroups? Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:38:48 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: Anyway, I think I've heard there are some laptops with no BIOS, is this true? Per termini technici, yes. Some systems use EFI (or UEFI) instead of a BIOS. It's comparable to a much more advanced (than BIOS) micro-OS that initializes the hardware, connectes to the Internet, tells the manufacturer what you're doing and keeps limiting you in what you are allowed to install. :-) Heh... ;-) (U)EFI is nothing new for us old farts: we've had OpenBoot[1] on Sun hardware for ages, and even though it didn't limit us w.r.t. the OS you wanted to boot (that's why you can install FreeBSD/sparc64 on used Sun machines), it had its issues too. Mainly that it needed a counter-part in hardware peripherals. E.g.: without F-Code in ROM, a PCI-based frame buffer wouldn't be usable there, because it wouldn't reply to the OpenBoot queries. The point is that firmware CAN be a mini-OS and more powerful than PC-BIOS. There's nothing wrong with that, and the flexibility of OFW/OpenBoot was for us sysadmins invaluable, esp. with diskless machines. What's wrong, is UEFI's DRM-scheme used to prevent non-signed code to be loaded... without mandating in the specs that the BIOS vendor MUST allow the device owner to add his/her own keys to it. That's the evil part of it. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port of wayland?
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Hello, Is there work in progress to bring http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ into the ports collection? I don't think that this will happen anytime soon. There are way too many Linuxisms in Wayland: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=19081 But I may be wrong: they could have started moving towards other platforms recently (?). IMHO, there's much more pressing need for some really *useful* work on FreeBSD, like, say, finally getting Xen/Dom0 support. This, and ZFS, would be a killer app in data centers all around the world! ;-) Let the Linux guys get Wayland up and running smoothly enough, then we may think of porting evdev and other Linuxisms into a new compatibility shim. matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: a metric for number of users
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Is there some way I could get the number of unique IPs hitting FreeBSD servers for software updates? I'm curious about the direct comparison of numbers between FreeBSD, Ubuntu, Fedora, and SUSE for this metric. You could ask for this, but beware of drawing wrong conclusions. Where I'm currently working, we're fetching sources, ports and distfiles only once, rebuild, test, and then mirror internally to a couple of 10k machines. And I'm sure we're not alone doing this: it's certainly not such an uncommon scenario out there. Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: editing pdf files
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:40:29PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: 10.10.2012 02:35, Gary Aitken пишет: Can someone give me advice on editing pdf files? Take a look at graphics/inkscape. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ive got a question that fits in here. hopefully. last week I found a book from 1901 that google had scanned and listed as a pdf file. it was text plus photos of the rich/famous of the 1800s. somehow, google found the exact string that matched my great grandfather [from the civil war]. I d'loaded the file (maybe 2mbytes) and searched using acroread. nada. I used the pdftotext utility. same: nothing but some 600 page numbers. my guess is that google just took photos of the book and used other tools to create a pdf file. I am not =that= serious about genealogy, but I would like to know if there are any tools to edit this kind of pdf file. I suspect the following: they scanned the book and put all the images into the PDF. The PDF itself is merely a container for scanned pages; it thus contains no text (save for the page numbers). That Google was able to search in this file is probably due to them running some OCR program on the image files, and then indexing the (approximate) text that the OCR program generated. Probably they used something like tesseract-ocr from ports graphics/tesseract: http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/ tia guys, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unlocking HDD ATA password
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I have a question regarding the use (or the make usable again) of hard disks locked with ATA password: I have a Samsung disk (2.5 with PATA interface) and approx. 160 GB capacity which is locked by some ATA password which nobody knows. What tool is to be used in FreeBSD to transmit the password to the unit in order to wake it up? camcontrol(8) maybe? After some patching? http://blog.multiplay.co.uk/2011/08/freebsd-security-support-for-ata-devices-via-camcontrol/ I have not tried it and don't know if it is what you need; I just found it while googling. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how restore an unencrypted dump on an encrypted file system?
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:09 AM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: thanks saeedeh OK i try to explain what i have done more in detail. i want to restore unencrypted dump files on an encrypted file system. in order to do that, i encrypted my file system by geli command and sure that is done correctly because when i install base and kernel on it, freebsd start up successfully. problem is here: when i restore my dump files and restart my freebsd, boot PXE menu is shown and i select my freebsd but after that, the error message invalid format occurs and i see this message: FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader boot: it selects the default kernel correctly and after some seconds an error message is shown which consists of some hardware addresses. i don't know how to fix it. any hints that might fix my problem are appreciated. You could try to let us know what kind of error message you get (i.e. the exact wording). ;-) My guess (out of the blue) is that kernel and modules are now out of sync. This happens when you restore the modules from backup but use a newer kernel (or vice-versa). If you restore stuff from backup, make sure you don't restore anything under your freshly (re-)installed /boot. Or make sure you restore *everything* into /boot, and not just some parts of it. /boot has to be consistent; either everything from the new install, or everything from the backup up install, but not a mix of both. As others pointed out, you need to provide more detailed infos about your backup and restore procedure. It it impossible to guess correctly what you have done otherwise. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: cksum entire dir??
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Karl Vogel vogelke+free...@pobox.com wrote: Here's a simple, system-independent way to find duplicate files. All you There's also sysutils/samefile: http://www.schweikhardt.net/samefile/index.html -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: svn and/or portsnap
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Helmut Schneider jumpe...@gmx.de wrote: Currently I'm updating ports and src twice a day so I will keep using svn for both. While you certainly can, isn't it a bit excessive to update so frequently? Remember, it's not just fetching the sources and ports, you must also compile world _and_ ports if you want to stay current. I highly doubt that you want to do this twice a day, even on a very fast machine. And if you don't compile twice a day, it may be better to keep sources (and ports) with the installed binaries in sync. Just in case you need to investigate security breaches or buggy programs -- then you'll be glad to have the _corresponding_ sources available instead of some sources for binaries you have not installed yet. Thanks. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:41 PM, David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: That sort of shows my point in fact. There is nothing stopping FreeBSD from implementing cgroups, udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, its not like Linux is going to enforce patents on these things, its software, and freebsd can easily add code to support these things, and as well, systemd. Right! Nothing prevents us from writing a Linux compat shim similar to the Linux-ABI (linuxulator) to provide the framework needed by systemd et al. Make it optional, if necessary, so that the base default FreeBSD system won't be contaminated. It would also be nice to be able to kldload linux drivers (binary blobs developed for Linux and provided by 3rd party hardware vendors), but that would be harder to implement. Then again, why not try? Isn't it like ndis(4), all over again? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: about system api
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Aric leea...@126.com wrote: Hi,all could anybody knows how to get the FreeBSD system APIs What do you mean with system API? Maybe the interfaces to the kernel, as defined in /usr/include/sys? 2012-08-18 Aric -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: I never stated than anyone should be denied the right to create or write basically whatever they so desire; however, if they are going to piggyback their work on another author or developer's works, then that individual deserves to receive compensation. The point here is that an INDIVIDUAL deserves compensation. Whether some mega corp with a huge portfolio of patents deserves the same is to be questioned. Especially considering that those huge mega corps use those patents to stomp all over the little (programmer) guy and destroy his little livelihood. That's what patents were initially designed to prevent: that some predatory industrial magnate would steal the idea of the little inventor to make a profit, without compensating the inventor for his ideas. Sadly, this principle (protecting the little inventors) has been turned upside-down due to the abysmal performance of the Patent Office examiners who rubber stamping just about every patent application with the words machinery for ... in it. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Webpage screenshot
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I'm searching for a simple way to create a screenshot from a web page, i. e. convert the rendered page into a PNG (or something similar) graphic format. This is intended to be used for usability and design visualization where different components of the web page can be colored using Gimp to show their structure by inking the different elements. The idea of taking a screenshot from the web browser may look sufficient at first, but it is problematic when the web page doesn't fit horizontally or vertically. This sometimes doesn't even work when using the browser in total fullscreen (which is 1400x1050 or 2800x1050 here). Using the browsers print to PS functionaliy also add pagination that is not desired, and continuous form printing export doesn't exist. How would you suggest to solve this task? CLI utilities are welcome - the less interaction, the better. It doesn't matter if the result is a 800x1 px image with 300 px white margin left and right. :-) I'm still using xwd(1) to grab a window (using -frame to add the decoration of the window manager) here, and convert it then to .png with the Gimp. Of course, I take care of displaying just the interesting part of the web page that I need by scrolling to the interesting part. If you need a complete snapshot of the page, you may try this: open Firefox with some insane big -geometry settings, perhaps to a big virtual screen in X; and then grab that whole window with xwd(1). I didn't try that, but it may be enough. If your X server won't handle this big a screen, try with a nesting server like x11-servers/xorg-nestserver. Good luck! Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: This is the reason software patents comprise such a blight on the world of software development. Yes, agreed, not just software. The european patent office system pressures examiners towards granting if they can't quickly find prove the application is already known. http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/txt/patents/ Sadly, the time they had the likes of Albert Einstein as patent examiners [1] are well over... [1]: https://www.ige.ch/en/about-us/einstein/einstein-at-the-patent-office.html Cheers, Julian -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: It is possible that Microsoft is going the way of SCO -- into its grave, having hung all its hopes on litigation. Along the way, though, it will probably do a lot of damage to a lot of people, projects, and businesses, and I just hope it doesn't get as far as the FreeBSD project or any FreeBSD users before things come crashing down. Right! Let's also hope that most patents that could harm us (should there be some lurking out there) will have expired by then. Unless Congress pulls a Mickey Mouse Protection Act-lookalike on patents by extending them just as they did with Copyright. But as usual with Congress, I wouldn't hold my breath: they aren't exactly known for enacting reasonable and sensible laws. Especially not when heavily lobbied by mega corps with deep pockets like MSFT, Oracle, Apple and so on. Yes, things will get really nasty once those corporations go the way of the SCO. (disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. Et cetera.) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: All I'm going to say is: 1) There's a _reason_ the gov't requires hard drives with anthing higher than 'somewhat' classified data on them to be =physically= destroyed before leving the secure area. Speaking from experience, I confirm that it's true. However, regulations have been tightened further recently as to mandate sector-level encryption of the hard disks as well, just to be on the sure(rer) side. At least in certain particularly sensitive areas. 2) As of 2007, 'over-writing' data (regardless of how many times) is *not* sufficient, any more, for _any_ military purposes. Yes. With enough resources, it is possible to read lower magnetic layers of HDDs, at least partially. And with SDDs, it's trivial to locate the old sectors, because their firmware doesn't overwrite the same physical spots for obvious reasons. That's why sector-level disk encryption is paramount nowadays. And that opens a whole new Pandora's box of key management issues and vulnerabilities. ;-) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: regulations have been tightened further recently as to mandate sector-level encryption of the hard disks as well, just to be on the sure(rer) side. At least in certain particularly sensitive areas. which may be a proof that governments know backdoors alloving recovery from encrypted drives using builtin hardware encryption (FDE). Not that easy with geli ;) Indeed. But getting GELI certified and approved by the relevant institutions and agencies isn't that easy either. Yet without getting both, we aren't allowed to rely on GELI as the sole encryption-provider. As an add-on on top of a certified solution, GELI wouldn't hurt though: it's a decent piece of code. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why Clang
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:16:31 -0500, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered. This has not been decided in court yet. In which court not? Of which jurisdiction? Even if one jurisdiction says something doesn't mean all other 190+ or so countries would agree. Since we're an international project, better be safe (legally) than sorry, and avoid GPLv3 when possible. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/ This would seem to make compiling from source difficult. Kurt I'm not sure I understand the issue, but this is my take on it so far: 1. What's preventing the makers of boot loaders like GRUB (which can also boot FreeBSD) from getting a certificate ONCE? And if they have one, what's preventing them from loading ANY kernel at all? It is only the first stage boot loader that needs to be signed, or not? 2. What's preventing anyone of us in the EU from stepping up efforts with the EU Commission and the EU Parliament to stop Microsoft from monopolizing the ARM (and later x86) platforms, i.e. by becoming the only gatekeepers? After all, EU sovereign states and their economies can't depend on a US corporation having a global kill switch to their whole infrastructure. We're not just talking about Windows dominance here, but a lot more: dominance on the whole hardware segment. I'm pretty sure this scheme is highly anti-competitive, and I guess it runs afoul of a lot of already existing EU regulations. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined
# Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device vlan# 802.1Q VLAN support device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # BSD-style compatibility pseudo ttys device md # Memory disks device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) device firmware# firmware assist module # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support options USB_DEBUG # enable debug msgs device uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface device ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface device ehci# EHCI PCI-USB interface (USB 2.0) device xhci# XHCI PCI-USB interface (USB 3.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp# USB Double Bulk Pipe devices (needs netgraph) device uhid# Human Interface Devices device ukbd# Keyboard device ulpt# Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device urio# Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player # USB Serial devices device u3g # USB-based 3G modems (Option, Huawei, Sierra) device uark# Technologies ARK3116 based serial adapters device ubsa# Belkin F5U103 and compatible serial adapters device uftdi # For FTDI usb serial adapters device uipaq # Some WinCE based devices device uplcom # Prolific PL-2303 serial adapters device uslcom # SI Labs CP2101/CP2102 serial adapters device uvisor # Visor and Palm devices device uvscom # USB serial support for DDI pocket's PHS # USB Ethernet, requires miibus device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet device cdce# Generic USB over Ethernet device cue # CATC USB Ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet device udav# Davicom DM9601E USB # USB Wireless device rum # Ralink Technology RT2501USB wireless NICs device run # Ralink Technology RT2700/RT2800/RT3000 NICs. device uath# Atheros AR5523 wireless NICs device upgt# Conexant/Intersil PrismGT wireless NICs. device ural# Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs device urtw# Realtek RTL8187B/L wireless NICs device zyd # ZyDAS zd1211/zd1211b wireless NICs # FireWire support device firewire# FireWire bus code # sbp(4) works for some systems but causes boot failure on others #device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) device fwip# IP over FireWire (RFC 2734,3146) device dcons # Dumb console driver device dcons_crom # Configuration ROM for dcons # Sound support device sound # Generic sound driver (required) device snd_es137x # Ensoniq AudioPCI ES137x device snd_hda # Intel High Definition Audio device snd_ich # Intel, NVidia and other ICH AC'97 Audio device snd_uaudio # USB Audio device snd_via8233 # VIA VT8233x Audio Regards, -cpghost. Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 20-May-2012, at 5:53 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: Hello, what does this boot message means, and where does it come from? link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined linker_load_file: Unsupported file type It appears between between ZFS storage pool version 28 and drm0: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics on vgapci0 uname -a: FreeBSD phenom.cordula.ws 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0 r235604: Fri May 18 15:49:06 CEST 2012 r...@phenom.cordula.ws: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TIA, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UEFI Secure Boot Specs - And some sanity
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:17 AM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: I did say effectively. If people would actually read that chapter in the spec (minimally 27.5) they would find that they can: - Load a new PK without asking if in default SetupMode - If not in SetupMode, chainload a new PK provided it is signed by the current PK. - Clear the PK in a 'secure platform specific method'. Only if they fully follow the spec. This is rather unlikely. Even today, there are still many broken DMI/SMBIOS tables out there that contain barely enough stuff for Windows to boot successfully. What makes you think UEFI BIOS makers will go all the trouble to implement such a complex spec, if all they have to do is to ensure compliance with MS requirements? I wouldn't count on an option or switch to override this system. Technically, we may very well have to replace the BIOS, or even the BIOS chip itself (that'll be fun if it is physically mounted on the board!), and replace it with a chip flashed with a free BIOS. And by then, the corps who are responsible for this UEFI mess will have made it illegal to 1. tinker with your own hardware, as it would be DRM circumvention and 2. implement a free UEFI BIOS as it would violate some UEFI patents. Basically, we may end up in a situation where running FreeBSD on a modified motherboard could be outright illegal. Which is exactly the point, isn't it? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to work. IMHO, you've hit the same problem as this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241148.html Unfortunately, there was no follow-up, and nobody seems to have enough skills to fix hald. Good luck, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:14 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to work. IMHO, you've hit the same problem as this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241148.html Sorry, I forgot to add the original mail: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241042.html Unfortunately, there was no follow-up, and nobody seems to have enough skills to fix hald. Good luck, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse stopped working in X
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 10:17:16 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: There is a second way of doing this stunt. Start X When X is up and running press CTRL+ALT+F3 or any F* frpm F3 up to F8 then you get to the console Su to root in the console and type in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart Then press ALT+F9 to get back to X So if that is the _solution_, why not try to automate it? Not tested, just a suggestion: Make this the last-1 line in ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession depending on actual setup), before the exec call to the WM / DE, maybe like this: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xterm xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a xset b 100 1000 15 xset r rate 250 30 xset s off xset -dpms - sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart exec wmaker It should happen when X is running, and it should be back to normal when the WM or DE is launched (and all background programs have fully started). Yep, that's a good idea... as well as switching to a text console, issue the commands there, and then go back to X. But IMHO, the *real* solution is to fix hald (or its config), so that it tries /dev/sysmouse, or whatever mouse is configured in Xorg.conf, instead of automatically picking some wrong mouse device. I guess the problem stems from the fact, that when moused is running, it has already grabbed the real mouse device (e.g. /dev/psm0) and provides the virtual device /dev/sysmouse. When hald starts the first time, it tries to grab the real mouse device too... and fails because that mouse is already used by moused, and is therefore locked. Only when hald tries to load /dev/sysmouse the second time it is started, will it succeed. Unfortunatly, hald config is pretty black magic to me. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft. pole. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse stopped working in X
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-05-18 13:49, J. W. Ballantine skrev: Hi, Before the update of x11 on 4/21/2012, X was working fine, but now when I startx, my usb and touchpad mouse are no longer found. The mouse works in terminal mode, and hald and dbus are started in /etc/rc.conf. I have exactly the same problem. What windowmanager are you using? I'm using xfce4, I have a workaround for that. 1. start X 2. when it comes up press alt+F2, the start program dialog comes up 3. type in xterm or your terminal of choice 4. in your terminal su to root then type /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart wait a few seconds and the mouse should work again. I have the same problem but with a ps/2 mouse. Restarting dbus and hald from within an xterm is a workable workaround. Since I'm using fluxbox, I start an xterm in ~/.xinitrc in the background to get a terminal before exec-ing fluxbox. Luckily, this xterm has already the focus. This is the relevant part of /var/log/Xorg.0.log regarding the mouse: (II) config/hal: Adding input device PS/2 Mouse (II) LoadModule: mouse (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.7.1 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 (WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (II) PS/2 Mouse: Setting Device option to /dev/psm0 (--) PS/2 Mouse: Device: /dev/psm0 (==) PS/2 Mouse: Protocol: Auto (**) PS/2 Mouse: always reports core events (**) Option Device /dev/psm0 (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 Device busy. (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device (II) UnloadModule: mouse (EE) PreInit returned NULL for PS/2 Mouse (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) After restarting hald: (II) config/hal: Adding input device PS/2 Mouse (WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... (II) PS/2 Mouse: Setting Device option to /dev/sysmouse (--) PS/2 Mouse: Device: /dev/sysmouse (==) PS/2 Mouse: Protocol: Auto (**) PS/2 Mouse: always reports core events (**) Option Device /dev/sysmouse (==) PS/2 Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) PS/2 Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) PS/2 Mouse: Buttons: 9 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device PS/2 Mouse (type: MOUSE) Interestingly, the first time Xorg tries to access the mouse, it opens /dev/psm0, and the second time after manually restarting hald, it accesses /dev/sysmouse... which is the driver that I always use in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Shouldn't Xorg use /dev/sysmouse all the time then? Why does it try to open /dev/psm0? I hope this problem will get fixed soon. ;-) Thanks for the good workaround. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined
Hello, what does this boot message means, and where does it come from? link_elf_obj: symbol ata_controlcmd undefined linker_load_file: Unsupported file type It appears between between ZFS storage pool version 28 and drm0: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics on vgapci0 uname -a: FreeBSD phenom.cordula.ws 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0 r235604: Fri May 18 15:49:06 CEST 2012 r...@phenom.cordula.ws: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TIA, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Tony ableton...@gmail.com wrote: The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more forced than well thought out. First you have the shiny Satanic 3D-lookalike logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) that might look cool the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like what the hell *is* that thing anyway? (...) Last time, a redesign brought us the sex toy logo to appease the anti-Beastie fraction. So, please, not again. Let's concentrate on improving FreeBSD itself. There's more than enough work to do in this department before we even consider letting ourselves be distracted by design issues again. Thank you, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 04/01/12 19:29, Polytropon wrote: Firmware attacks! ROFL! Sorry my mind went to an interesting place with this one images of printers on spring break flashing their cartridges, opening flaps to show off their drums... :D Reminds me of the VAXorcist... ;-) http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/vaxorcist.html -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: Editor With NO Shell Access?
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: I have a situation where I need to provide people with the ability to edit files. However, under no circumstances do I want them to be able to exit to the shell. The client in question has strong (and unyielding) InfoSec requirements in this regard. If the requirements are THAT hard, I think it would be best to do it the good ole fashioned way: modify the source code of their favorite editor, by patching out ALL calls to system(2), exec*(2), popen() et al. This way, you'll be sure that editor binary won't call out ANY external process whatsoever. A little bit less secure, but based on the same idea, would be to provide replacements for those process-creating functions in a custom library, say, libnofork.so where each of these functions immediately return or signal an error like EPERM instead of ultimately doing the syscall. Then link your client's editor with -lnofork to mask the original libc definitions. It is a little bit less secure than manually removing or commenting out calls to system(), exec*(), popen*() etc, because the editor could at least in theory call dlopen() on the original libc, where the functions are still there, or it could even issue the kernel syscalls directly, without going through libc... although that is very unlikely with the usual editors. It is also less secure, because from within this modified editor, the user could read the contents of libc.so into libnofork.so, and then restart the editor. But you get the basic idea. Alternatively, you may want to look into ways to disable forking() in general for a process. Some old Unices provided a way to selectively disable certain syscalls based on some root-definable administrative per-user or per-application policy, but I don't know whether this is possible with FreeBSD. Perhaps the new Capsicum [1] provides this, or will in the foreseeable future? I have not looked into it yet. [1]: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/ So ... are there editors without this feature? Can I compile something like joe or vi to inhibit this feature? Yes, see above: provide a replacement library and link against that. Consider static linking for slightly increased security, and make sure the user can't modify the editor binary, can't modify any dynamic libraries it links against, and can't replace that binary with another binary. Security is like an onion. Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: An email address can be hidden from bots without violating section 508, for instance: feenberg is at nber dot org or some variant won't be picked up by a robot. Most bots use some rather sophisticated regexp pattern matching nowadays, including some primitive JavaScript parsing to defeat the most popular JS-based obfuscations. This one is very, very obvious and among the easiest ones (including the is variation). You couldn't hide from them this way. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Erich Dollansky er...@alogreentechnologies.com wrote: On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote: On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote: I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the horns. That would be what most people call a ball. They have them in the west too... do they vibrate when they get moved? Yes, but only if they run FreeBSD, and only if they have the hw.balls.vibrating sysctl(8) set to 1. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 web-based configuration, none of the methods that are supposed to be used for installing a printer works. (... snip ...) What am I doing wrong? :-) Have you heeded *all* the advices here? /usr/ports/print/cups-base/pkg-message Permissions are usually the culprit when CUPS doesn't work. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Cryopid for FreeBSD?
Hello, is there an equivalent to Linux' cryopid for FreeBSD? http://code.google.com/p/cryopid/ Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: corrupted tar.gz archive - I lost my backups :)/:(
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:56 AM, _ pancakekin...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to recover these files on 8.2, I found that some of the archives - unfortunately those with the files that are dear to me - are corrupted. Do you have MD5, SHA256 etc... checksums of the .tar.gz files somewhere? Do they still match, or do they differ now? (If they match, you have a software problem with tar or gzip; try reading the files under Linux (Knoppix?) just to be sure. If they don't match, either the media is corrupt (very likely), or something's wrong on the code path that reads your backup device (a lot less likely)) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. Go for Qt. It is a great cross-platform C++ GUI framework, with plugins to SQL databases, networking and everything you would typically need. There's even PyQt, if you want Python bindings. Check out the examples in the Qt distribution too to get an idea: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/all-examples.html I agree Qt is a great solution however you are probably going to want to ship static binaries to windows clients (only), especially to non-techical end users... otherwise it gets kind of insane, much more challenging than distributing java based apps IMHO. But the IDE is fantastic plus you get a nice integration with webkit. if I remember (been awhile) the license terms are a little different for static, would have to re-read carefully. I don't know about licensing issues w.r.t. static binaries; but you're absolutely right: it's definitely worth looking into. Another cross-platform GUI is wxWidgets (C++, but has Python bindings too). It's not as rich a library as Qt IMHO, but quite nice too. You may want to combine wxWidgets with Poco though (all of this is in ports, btw). -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software Development using Freebsd.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Now we will try to have a graphical mode in Freebsd. With that we would like to be able to develop graphical applications for Windows (we all know that's the market and here some companies is what they are looking), so maybe sound crazy but I am looking to develop applications for Windows without using WIndows or Microsofot products at least. Go for Qt. It is a great cross-platform C++ GUI framework, with plugins to SQL databases, networking and everything you would typically need. There's even PyQt, if you want Python bindings. Check out the examples in the Qt distribution too to get an idea: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/all-examples.html -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which Common Lisp port for FreeBSD/sparc64?
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 09:50:54PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: You can find various cmucl snapshots here: http://common-lisp.net/project/cmucl/downloads/snapshots/2012/01/ i think one of the authors has a sparc machine, and also runs maxima, so i would be confident that cmucl works OK on the sparc, but it is here apparently under solaris. Looking into cmucl-2012-01-sparcv9-solaris10.tar.bz2, it seems that the lisp itself is 32-bit: file bin/lisp bin/lisp: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, SPARC32PLUS, V8+ Required, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped Looking at http://www.cons.org/cmucl/platforms.html, only x86 and amd64 (using the x86 32-bit binaries) are supported on FreeBSD. Only solaris is supported on sparc hardware. And according to http://sbcl.sourceforge.net/platform-table.html, sbcl doesn't run on FreeBSD/sparc. It seems that the latest release only supports x86 and amd64, irrespective of OS. Thank you guys for all the suggestions. I'll look into this. Kind regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Which Common Lisp port for FreeBSD/sparc64?
Hi, is anyone running a Common Lisp port on FreeBSD/sparc64? I'm asking because none of our Common Lisp ports lang/clisp, lang/ccl, lang/cmucl, lang/sbcl compile on sparc64. On Debian Linux 6.0.1a for SPARC, at least sbcl is available. Maybe clisp as well, IIRC. Any suggestions for running Common Lisp on FreeBSD/sparc64? Oh, I need that because of math/maxima and math/open-axiom. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sour grapes .. was FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:41 PM, doug d...@fledge.watson.org wrote: That said, FreeBSD has a giant disadvantage in the desktop world. In trying to find if there will be any sort for my current laptop I came across a comment from Robert Noland saying that Xorg is becoming more and more Linux centric. That is a problem the FreeBSD project can not overcome. Did he mean frameworks like evdev(4) and so? http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/evdev.4.html Stuff like this really ought to be backported to FreeBSD, either directly or by providing more Linuxisms on our side. It only shows that our Linuxulator framework isn't compatible enough with Linux and needs to be extended. There's no /technical/ reason why it can't be done. And yes, it's a pain. But if most 3rd party software developers converge towards a Linux standard (whatever that moving target standard may be), we may have to inch towards this standard too. That kind of convergence happened in the Unix world all the time, including with POSIX. Now Linux is the new de facto standard platform the 3rd party software, we may as well adapt FreeBSD/Linuxulator. Kind regards and a Happy New Year. ;-) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: Root access policy
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Irk Ed irked7...@gmail.com wrote: For the first time, a customer is asking me for root access to said customer's servers. Are we talking about jail(8)- or server-level root access? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Graphic /boot/loader menu
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote: Myself, personally, as much as I dislike the look of FreeBSD's boot menu, it does have the advantage of being very lightweight and adding minimal overhead to the booting process, which is an important consideration for a lot of people, no doubt. YMMV. It's important to us running FreeBSD on headless machines, hooked up to remote serial consoles. A GUI boot menu wouldn't work there, since these machines don't even have VGA circuitry. Let us know if you learn anything interesting re: this issue. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Consistent ATI lockups [mi] EQ overflowing.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Jimmie James jimmie...@gmail.com wrote: Symptoms: total lockup of X, Xorg pegged at 100% CPU time, LEDs don't work, keyboard is usless. SSH in allows a clean shutdown, about 50% of the time. FreeBSD jimmiejaz.org 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sun Jun 26 08:42:45 EDT 2011 jim...@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO i386 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xd000-0xdfff,0xff52-0xff52 irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci6 drm0: ATI Radeon LW RV200 Mobility 7500 M7 on vgapci0 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 vgapci0@pci0:6:3:0: class=0x03 card=0x51571002 chip=0x4c571002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.' device = 'Mobility Radeon 7500 (M7 [LW])' class = display subclass = VGA xf86-video-ati-6.14.2 X.Org ati display driver Just to facilitate debugging, I see the very same behavior on 8.2-STABLE amd64 with the radeonhd driver: xf86-video-radeonhd-1.3.0_4 xorg-server-1.7.7_3,1 Xorg is struck in an endless loop, consuming 100% CPU. Yes, I should have switched from radeonhd to ati, but I didn't yet on that machine. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [OT] but concerns all of us
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote: My apologies to all for this, specially to those who already know about this and those who think too little of it. I am really worried about this: http://americancensorship.org/ Mario, I couldn't agree more and it's a very important topic. But PLEASE let's take this thread to freebsd-chat@. It *really* doesn't belong here. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What are the technical differences between Linux and BSD?
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Allen unix.hac...@comcast.net wrote: On 10/31/2011 3:50 PM, Zantgo wrote: I mean, like BSD is based on the original UNIX, and Linux on System V, Um, no BSD was a version of Unix that was done at Berkeley. They were one of the first Universities to REALLY get work done with Unix adding things that we all now take for granted (Vi, TCP/IP, more) and basically came out with this BSD which was in very high demand and VERY popular. It, in my mind, was better than the ATT Unix. Linux uses System V style Init. It's BASED on SunOS. Linus Torvalds said that when he started working on Linux, his reason for doing so, was that he wanted to run on HIS computer, the same thing he had been using at the University, which, was SunOS. He said his early inspiration for Linux was SunOS. Just because it uses System V init doesn't mean it's actually based on it... Yes, but I guess that Linus probably used early versions of SunOS 4 which were not only BSD-based, but also not yet SysV-ied. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: changing baud rate without recompiling
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:11 AM, saeedeh motlagh saeedeh.motl...@gmail.com wrote: - change the baud rate in /etc/ttys file (...) when i use stty -f /dev/ttyu0.init 115200 the baud rate for ttyu0.init change to 115200. after that i use kill -1 1 in order to reinitialize devices but nothing happened and the baud rate for ttyu0 is still 9600. Are you sure you really updated /etc/ttys correctly? ttyu0 /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 dialup on secure What does 'ps ax | grep getty' say? Something like this: 1416 u0 Is+0:00.24 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyu0 or like this: 1416 u0 Is+0:00.24 /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyu0 Then, check that std.115200 is indeed in /etc/gettytab. Save for getty, I don't know what would reset the speed to 9600... Maybe some weird setting in /etc/login.conf? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: -Stable periodic updates
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Zantgo zan...@gmail.com wrote: I will say my question clear. If I have FreeBSD-8.2-stable, updated 2011/05/18, what I want to do is update the current, as for example 2011/11/01. I am willing to read me a manual that tells me how to do this.___ Short answer: 1. Update /usr/src with csup using an appropriate supfile. e.g.: -- /etc/8stable-sup *default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all --- /etc/8stable-sup # csup -g -L2 /etc/8stable-sup 2. Compile /usr/src into /usr/obj: # cd /usr/src # make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC 3. Install /usr/obj as the base system: # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC # reboot (single user) (You do this to verify that the new kernel is booting correctly) (single-user)# mount -a (single-user)# cd /usr/src (single-user)# mergemaster -p (single-user)# make installworld (single-user)# mergemaster (single-user)# make delete-old [optional, but beware!] (single-user)# make delete-old-libs (single-user)# reboot 4. Now update the ports tree /usr/ports -- /etc/ports-sup --- *default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all --- /etc/ports-sup --- # csup -g -L2 /etc/ports-sup 5. Update the installed ports on your system, by rebuilding all ports that are not up-to-date: # cd /usr/ports # less UPDATING (Read from the entry of the last time you've updated the ports) (get a new portmaster just in case) # portmaster -b ports-mgmt/portmaster (now, rebuild all that is not up-to-date) # portmaster -a Or, if you prefer: # pkg_version -v '' /root/pkg-update-list.txt # less /root/pkg-update-list # portmaster -b (one-port-after-the-other-from-the-list-above) (To get portmaster, install /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster) Good luck, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: -Stable periodic updates
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Zantgo zan...@gmail.com wrote: I will say my question clear. If I have FreeBSD-8.2-stable, updated 2011/05/18, what I want to do is update the current, as for example 2011/11/01. I am willing to read me a manual that tells me how to do this.___ If you want to update to the latest 8.2-STABLE (tracking -STABLE), please follow the instructions in my previous mail. However, updating to -CURRENT (i.e. FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT, RELENG_10) is more involved because of API breakages. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Checking for broken packages (as in linking)
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 7:27 AM, James Colannino ja...@colannino.org wrote: No, I don't mean checking for broken ports :-P In fact, when I Google around for the answer to my question, that's all I can find, which is why I bring my question to the mailing list instead :) Maybe broken ports or broken packages isn't the right term (what should I be searching for instead?) What I want to know is, are there tools that will check the ports I've installed and tell me if any of my packages are linked against libraries that are no longer there? I'm paranoid that at some point, while I'm building and installing updates, I'm going to break something. I'm using the following script (attached). I've been using FreeBSD for a little while now, but I'm still learning... :) Thanks in advance! James HTH, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ revdep-rebuild.py Description: Binary data ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: The biggest loser in this is FreeBSD itself. Virtually any new PC or laptop, with the exception of the bargain basement brands, and even some of them are exempt, now come with N protocol wireless devices. Instead of devoting so much time and energy whining about the problem here on-list, even though you know full well that we can't do anything about it for known reasons... why won't you lobby the manufacturers of N devices, so that they either open their specs, so we can write a driver, or at least release binary blobs compatible with FreeBSD? Wouldn't that be more productive? You're very outspoken on some aspects, so put that rhetorical skill to good use and contact the major wireless chipset vendors; and then follow up with them if you don't get the reply you want, just as you do here on-list. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: BUT: CUPS seems to be hardcoded into many applications today. They stopped working with the non-CUPS default system tools. An example is Opera. Another one is Gimp which works with system lp* tools, but has hardcoded queries to lpstat (a CUPS program that doesn't exist or cannot connect to the server). The upcoming question here is: WHY??? (...) CUPS also has program names that are derived from LPR's competitor. The lpstat command is such an example, and I think lpadmin also is. lpstat and lpadmin are standard SysV tools for printing. They existed LONG before CUPS: http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/print/sol_lp1.html Please note that there are two distinct toolsets for (traditional) UNIX printing: * lpr tools for BSD printing * lp tools for SysV printing Please don't call the BSD lpr toolset lp tools, that's pretty confusing to us old-gen sysadmins. ;-) Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync and the ports tree
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Peter Kryszkiewicz tundra2b...@gmail.com wrote: I have several machines installed in my temporary location and only my laptop gets the internet through wireless. So far I've been building ports on the other machines by rsync'ing the distfiles from the laptop as I need them (all machines have the same FreeBSD 8.2 installed). The problem comes after I did a 'portupgrade -a' on the laptop. To ensure the other ports trees are in sync, can I rsync the /usr/ports directory to the other machines? Since some of them are different architectures (amd64 multicore for instance) I ran into situations where the distfiles are different (for gcc for example). First of all, rsync is working perfectly if you want to distribute /usr/ports/distfiles, /usr/ports to your internal machines, even when they are not of the same architecture. I'm doing this with a BIG farm of servers running i386, amd64, and sparc64 for a long, long time. You only need to make sure to rsync the *union* of your /usr/ports/distfiles directories, or else it won't work. Say, on amd64 you have /usr/ports/distfiles/some-distfile-for-amd64-only.tar.bz2 and on i386 you have /usr/ports/distfiles/some-distfile-for-i386-only.tar.bz2 Yes, that happens every now and then. So you have to rsync both ways, so that you end up with /usr/ports/distfiles/some-distfile-for-amd64-only.tar.bz2 /usr/ports/distfiles/some-distfile-for-i386-only.tar.bz2 on both i386 and amd64 machines. The catch is: look out for rsync's --delete flag! When some port managers delete old/stale distfiles, they may also delete distfiles for the *other* arches because they (rightly) think they are not needed here... and when you then rsync with --delete, that would (wrongly) propagate such deletes to those arches, and you end up with missing distfiles on the targets. Since I have more than just two arches, I use a slightly different 2-layer workflow: 0. I have 3 servers that are allowed to fetch files from the outside: i386-master, amd64-master, sparc64-master. and a whole bunch of i386-slave-NNN, amd64-slave-NNN and sparc64-slave-NNN machines that would duplicate from their relative masters via rsync. On all -master(s), I keep $DISTFILES outside of /usr/ports (on /usr/local/distfiles, with a symbolic link in /usr/ports /usr/ports/distfiles - /usr/local/distfiles) Initial update of i386-master, as usual: 1. On i386-master, csup /usr/ports. Run portmaster as usual to upgrade everything. This may delete old stale distfiles and non-i386-distfiles. This may fetch additional generic and i386-specific distfiles. Copy the new /usr/ports (without distfiles) to the other arch masters: 2. rsync -av --delete i386-master:/usr/ports to amd64-master and sparc64-master. CAUTION: Use --delete is okay, but only because distfiles are not under /usr/ports, so as not to nuke non-i386-specific distfiles of the other arches. Copy i386-master's NEW distfiles to the other arch masters: 3. rsync -av i386-master:/usr/local/distfiles to amd64-master and sparc64-master. BEWARE: Don't use --delete here! Do this to copy new generic distfiles (and i386) from the i386-master build to amd64-master and sparc64-master. Update amd64-master and sparc64-master's ports as usual: 4. On amd64-master, run portmaster as usual to upgrade everything. This may delete old stale distfiles and non-amd64-distfiles. This may fetch additional (generic and) amd64-specific-distfiles. 5. On sparc64-master, run portmaster as usual to upgrade everything. This may delete old stale distfiles and non-sparc64-distfiles. This may fetch additional (generic and) sparc64-specific-distfiles. At this point, i386-master, amd64-master and sparc64-master are fully updated, and their /usr/local/distfiles directories are up to date w.r.t. their specific architectures. Now, copy everything from the masters to the slaves: 6. On every i386-slave-NNN, rsync -av --delete: /usr/ports, /usr/local (including /usr/local/distfiles), /var/db/pkg, /var/db/ports from i386-master. 7. On every amd64-slave-NNN, rsync -av --delete: /usr/ports, /usr/local (including /usr/local/distfiles) /var/db/pkg, /var/db/ports from amd64-master. 8. On every sparc64-slave-NNN, rsync -av --delete: /usr/ports, /usr/local (including /usr/local/distfiles) /var/db/pkg, /var/db/ports from sparc64-master. You may also need to update entries in /etc and /usr/local/etc on the slaves. If not rsync, what is the best way to keep multiple ports trees on different hardware in sync, assuming everything runs FreeBSD 8.2? regards, Peter Kryszkiewicz -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Jonathan Vomacka juvi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/17/2011 12:04 PM, Michael M wrote: *SNIP* / *PRUNE* For whatever it may be worth; I fully stand by dedicating the next release to dmr, as it wouldn't exist without him and Ken. +1 Another reason for a dmr release is that we've finally switched to clang/llvm. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:43 PM, mikel king mikel.k...@olivent.com wrote: On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on whose shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it would be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a legacy that few can match. Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, wouldn't it? +1 for a dmr release. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: *caution* severely OT!!
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: guys, can anyone start me on the way of porting a python program to C? tia, Gary, if you experience a performance bottleneck somewhere, you may be better off performing some timings to determine the exact cause, and then to port the specific function(s) to a C module. Hints: ctypes, SWIG. Porting the whole program may not be necessary. Save yourself some quality time for other more pleasant tasks in life. ;-) But if you really must, I suggest to port the program to C++ instead of C, because there, you can make use of the excellent STL data types and containers, that match Python's somewhat. You may also consider using boost libraries, if the STL isn't enough. Good luck. gary -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A quality operating system
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 21/08/2011 05:13, Jorge Biquez wrote: if for some reason, I know it is impossible, but if for some reason FreeBSD would stop existing... serious users of FreeBSD, what would be your next OS? If the FreeBSD project disbanded (for some unimaginable reason), then I guess I'd have to choose an OS based on one of the forks of FreeBSD code base that would undoubtedly be created as a reaction to that. About the only thing that could conceivably cause FreeBSD to disband would be some sort of deep schism and internecine conflict within the developer community. Even so, the usual course is for one of the schismatic groups to leave in a huff and start their own project, leaving the rump of the original to lick its wounds and carry on. We've survived the biggest schism so far: the dropping of Beastie as the default image in /boot/loader.conf and the introduction of the sex toy logo. Since the community could survive this dual tragedy, I'm optimistic it'll survive almost ANYTHING. :-) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing and using wine on amd64
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Christian Barthel b...@nyx.user-mode.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:27:08PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: Current system is 8.2-STABLE/amd64. Should I better re-install everything (Intel Core2 4300 1.80GHz / 1799.81-MHz K8-class CPU here, and 2 GB RAM, that's why the AMD64 choice) and use i386 instead? I don't understand why you have chosen AMD64? You only have 2 GB memory, which can be adressed under i386 too and you can avoid a lot of problems. Today, I am not quite sure about AMD64 because with PAE ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#FreeBSD), you have a far better opportunity to address memory above 4 GB. Some applications run faster in 64-bit mode, because they make good use of the additional free registers... This is particularly important for crypto-stuff (it's noticeable even without benchmarking), and in some multimedia applications as well. And just to wit: some register-hungry applications run even faster on an old UltraSparc IIIi 1500 Mhz despite its slow memory than on a Phenom with 2.4 GHz and fast DDR 3 RAM. So it all depends on the particular applications. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternative windowmanagers
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Christian Barthel b...@nyx.user-mode.org wrote: What is your window manager? +1 for fluxbox. Minimalistic, functional, very easy to configure. Using it for a long time and no desire to change. I used fvwm2 and ctwm before, and I still like and use olvwm every now and then. Christian Barthel -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg at 100%CPU when browser is on
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:03 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: ... when mplayer plays some (rare) video files. Xorg then stays at 100% CPU, and it is impossible to kill it, neither from the inside, nor from the outside (logged in via ssh) with SIGKILL. Only a reboot helps here. An unkillable process is almost certainly hung in a driver, and in this case I would strongly suspect it is a video driver. Can you break to KDB (or get a dump) and get a ps listing and a traceback of the hung process? That may enable someone familiar with the particular driver involved to debug it. Good hint! I'll try to get a dump next time X hangs with that driver. Meanwhile, I'll probably switch my main desktop to xf86-video-ati as Warren suggested. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg at 100%CPU when browser is on
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: I saw this with firefox, now I see the same with chrome. After a while when the browser is launched with ~10 tabs open, Xorg begins to consume 100% CPU and all graphics apps get sluggish. Quitting the browser brings situation back to normal. It looks amazing to me that both firefox and chrome exhibit the same behavior. Anybody sees the same? Anybody can explain why would such thing happen? Same here, but when mplayer plays some (rare) video files. Xorg then stays at 100% CPU, and it is impossible to kill it, neither from the inside, nor from the outside (logged in via ssh) with SIGKILL. Only a reboot helps here. Running: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0 r222832 amd64 with xorg-server-1.7.7_1,1 xorg-drivers-7.5.1 and the radeonhd driver: (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:9610:1462:7501 ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics rev 0, Mem @ 0xd000/268435456, 0xfe9e/65536, 0xfe80/1048576, I/O @ 0xd000/256, BIOS @ 0x/65536 (II) LoadModule: radeonhd (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeonhd_drv.so (II) Module radeonhd: vendor=AMD GPG compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.3.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (II) RADEONHD: version 1.3.0, built from dist of git branch master, commit 8cbff7bf (II) RADEONHD(0): ATOM BIOS Rom: SubsystemVendorID: 0x1002 SubsystemID: 0x1002 IOBaseAddress: 0xd000 Filename: MS7501_H_5.b BIOS Bootup Message: B27721 RS780 DDR2 200e/500m It happens only rarely, I can't reproduce that bug reliably. Yuri -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Book recommendations (slightly OT)
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Mark Moellering m...@msen.com wrote: I want to automate some tasks, creating directories, file editing, etc. I was going to pick up a book on shell scripting but wanted to ask the list if; A) I am barking up the wrong tree and should use something else. B) If I am headed in the right direction, what is the best book / resource to use? Most automation can be done with shell scripting, but there are situations where shell won't cut it. Then, you may want to give Expect a try (hint: combine it with netcat a.k.a. nc and other tools). If you don't like its TCL syntax, there's a port to Python in misc/py-pexpect: http://pexpect.sourceforge.net/ Good luck. Thanks in advance Mark Moellering -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: emacs-nox11
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl wrote:
I want a plain console version of emacs installed on my freebsd-8.2 system.
So I chose the editors/emacs-nox11 port, but I get an option screen with a
lot of options set to 'on' for which I get the feeling they are X related.
I.e. Freetype, Jpeg, Gif, GConf en lots of others. So, I'm confused and
would very much like to know *which* of those options have to be turned on
for a plaun console version of emacs. Hope to get some help.
Hi.
I have the following setup for my non-X11 emacs:
% cat /var/db/ports/emacs/options
# This file is auto-generated by 'make config'.
# No user-servicable parts inside!
# Options for emacs-23.2_4,2
_OPTIONS_READ=emacs-23.2_4,2
WITHOUT_CANNA=true
WITH_DBUS=true
WITH_GCONF=true
WITH_GIF=true
WITH_GTK2=true
WITH_JPEG=true
WITH_M17N=true
WITHOUT_MOTIF=true
WITH_OTF=true
WITH_PNG=true
WITH_SOUND=true
WITH_SOURCES=true
WITH_SVG=true
WITH_TIFF=true
WITHOUT_XAW=true
WITH_XAW3D=true
WITH_SYNC_INPUT=true
WITH_SCROLLBARS=true
WITH_XFT=true
WITH_XIM=true
WITH_XPM=true
In /etc/make.conf:
.if ${.CURDIR:M*/editors/emacs}
WITHOUT_X11=yes
.endif
This is what emacs is linked to against:
% ldd `which emacs`
/usr/local/bin/emacs:
libthr.so.3 = /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x8007a3000)
libdbus-1.so.3 = /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x8008bc000)
libutil.so.8 = /lib/libutil.so.8 (0x800a0b000)
libncurses.so.8 = /lib/libncurses.so.8 (0x800b1b000)
libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x800c68000)
libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800d88000)
Since there are no X11 libs in emacs despite all those options
being set anyway, I suppose that setting WITHOUT_X11 creates
a non-X11 emacs.
I'm using the following port (normal emacs, with WITHOUT_X11 set):
% echo /var/db/pkg/emacs*
/var/db/pkg/emacs-23.3_1,2
But I don't know if X dependencies are being pulled in when the
port is being built with all those options.
-cpghost.
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Re: How to sync a file on FreeBSD?
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Unga unga...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all How to sync a file on FreeBSD (esp. on 8.1) to disk? I used fsync(2), but does not immediately flush to disk. I want my writing to a file (a log file) immediately available to other users to read. It shouldn't matter: as soon as write(2) completes, the system-wide file cache -- not the disk -- is updated, and other users will transparently read(2) from that cache, not from the disk. What you probably want is to flush the userspace buffers of your I/O library as soon as you write a line of output: See fflush(3), set[v]buf(3)... You may also use a non-buffered stream for writing logs. fsync(2) has other uses. In particular, it is of NO use as long as the logging application doesn't flush its I/O caches itself. Best regards Unga -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:05 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: ... can a HAL be developed that runs on BSD that emulates Winblow$ such that any driver written for Winblow$ will work on *BSD? ... Something in the back of my head says there was / is something along this line already available or in the works, but I can't recall for sure. I _think_ we may already have something along these lines for NDIS (network) drivers, but I don't know how well it works. Not using it today, but it helped me in the past for some exotic NICs. Regarding the Windowsulator, I'm wondering if such a compat layer would be possible. Don't Windows drivers all get created by some kind of DDK/WDK, against a stable kernel-ABI? I'm not familiar with Windows, but I don't think a typical windows driver as written by a hardware vendor would manipulate the windows kernel internals (data structures) directly, right? If that's correct, we merely need to catch the ABI up- and down-calls from and to the windows driver, and translate them into regular FreeBSD syscalls (maybe augmented by a compat helper library?). Since this is exactly the approach taken by the Linuxulator, I fail to see why a similar method hasn't been tried for those windows kernel driver (binary blobs). Maybe some artificial restrictions like, say, patents are standing in the way? Or a technical restriction like such binary blobs being encrypted with a public key, and only usable from Windows kernel with their own secret key? Only windows kernel hackers can tell. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 05:13:56PM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: Also, due to the nature of the course-work I absolutely could not work with anything other than UNIX and so I have to select my hardware around my choice of OS which of course is FreeBSD. This is a bigger deal than people might realize. If Android actually exposed more of the Linux underpinnings it might be somewhat useful to me, but as it stands it is essentially just a toy. Unless and until I get a full-power OS (preferably a real BSD Unix) on a tablet, no amount of peripherals, ubiquitous network connection, and internal power will make up for the simple fact it's just a damned toy. Full ack! I was considering buying one of those new ARM-based ASUS tablets (1) to do some ARM assembly programming. Of course, I'd have liked to replace Android with FreeBSD/arm or another BSD (or even Linux), but I'm not sure it can be done already. So I'm holding off, because I don't need a toy, I need a fully working OS on that thing, an OS with a full suite of compilers etc... (1): http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-TF101-A1-10-1-Inch-Tablet-Computer/dp/B004U78J1G Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Obviously, it is _not_ unlawful to 'even open' a file that is 'labelled as private'. Herr Ghost subsequently clarified that he meant 'opened by a person' -- which, if _that_ is an accurate description of the law in question, means that a purely mechanical process, such as a loop running file(1) on all files, and logging a filtered subset of that output would _not_ qualify as 'opening' under the law, either. That's Frau Ghost, if you please. Look, the problem isn't running some analyzer on the files, it's the subsequent evaluation and interpretation of its output by a human operator. That's the exact point in time where the law applies (the law doesn't care about apparatus, it cares about human behavior). Over here, you can run as many filters on the files in an automated fashion, but that won't do you any good when you're not allowed to interpret the results (or even to merely *look* at them), and *act* accordingly. To wit: If you're building on _my_ property, I _do_ have the right to demand proof that you are doing it 'legally'. Please acknowledge that different jurisdictions also do have different philosophies... and especially different priorities w.r.t. the rights they are supposed to uphold. If I understand what you're saying, it means that in your place, private property rights rank higher than privacy protection obligations. That's okay, and not something to criticize, but it's not the case everywhere else in the world. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: For example, if it is part of the _terms_of_emplyment_ -- which one *agreed* to, by going to work there --that you (the employeee) give permission for the company, or it's agents, to examine any file you store on the system. It depends on the jurisdiction. For example, in Germany, you as an employee CAN'T waive some basic rights by law, and every waiver you've signed with your employer is automatically null and void, at least the provisions that affect those specific rights. Do you mean to suggest that an employee _cannot_ give permission to *anyone* (whether it is the employer, or just a friend) to look at any file that is categorized as 'private' ?? If they can give permission for 'someone' to look at a particular file, what prevents them from giving that someone permission to look at _every_ such file? We're getting to the point where only lawyers should give binding advice, according to a particular jurisdiction, so I obviously won't offer any such advice here. The point though, is /roughly/ this: yes, an individual CAN give permission for others to inspect his/her files (usually in his presence). BUT a company CANNOT require or compel the user to give this permission as a prerequisite for entering an agreement. Or, in other words, a company couldn't simply state in their TOS: user is giving permission to company to inspect all files he stores in his private area. Such a language would be null and void under most circumstance. That is at least the situation here. Again, jurisdictions vary widely. We here in Europe are at the farthest spectrum in terms of privacy protection of workers (students etc..) in the workplace (school etc...). Educational institutions here _are_ subject to somewhat differnet rules than corporates. True, most (i.e. all but a very few private Universities) are public institutions here. We're effectively and de jure part of the State infrastructure, and as such subject to a different set of rules. However, privacy protection applies just as much to corporations, if not even more so. Or, to sum up this thread (if you please): original poster, and every other sysadmin and IT head should check with their lawyer(s) before even considering or attempting to invade their users' privacy for whatever reason. The slippery when wet warning applies. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction : - find and delete the files that's all. Bon courage then... A file can not be illegal per se, so you won't be able to detect these by looking up names or contents. Even then, if a file is labeled as personal, privacy protection applies and it is *unlawful* for you to process it. (That is in the same way that your employer is strictly forbidden from peeking inside your email messages clearly labeled as personal, even if they were received on your work mailbox.) Exactly! Speaking with my university sysadmin hat on: you're NOT allowed to peek inside personal files of your users, UNLESS the user has waived his/her rights to privacy by explicitly agreeing to the TOS and there's legal language in the TOS that allows staff to inspect files (and then staff needs to abide by those rules in a very strict and cautious manner). So unless the TOS are very explicit, a sysadmin or an IT head can get in deep trouble w.r.t. privacy laws. You may want to look for files that are unusually large. They could possibly be ISOs, dvdrips, HD movie dumps... Not to forget encrypted RAR files (which btw. could contain anything, including legitimate content, so be careful here). We have the same problem here with users sharing movies on the file servers, and what makes it worse is some of their movie files are legit because they're, for example, official trailers that are reworked and redistributed to our customers. You won't win this, tell your boss it can not be done. What can technically be done is that the copyright owner provides a list of hashes for his files, and requests that you traverse your filesystems, looking for files that match those hashes. AND, even then, all you can do is flag the files, and you'll have to check with the user that he/she doesn't own a license permitting him/her to own that file! However, even that isn't foolproof: nothing prevents a user from flipping a bit or two, rescaling, resampling, splitting the files into multiple files in a non-obvious manner, adding random bytes at the end etc...: the result would still be infringing, but can't be detected automatically (at least not in a reasonable amount of time). Better talk with your users and resolve the problem using non-technical means. Inventive users WILL always outsmart any technical solution that you implement: this is a race you absolutely can't win. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:18:41 +0200 (CEST), Konrad Heuer wrote: The number of installations is not the most important figure. Functionality is important -- ZFS, HAST, CARP, jails, as already mentioned -- would be nice to see a distributed file system. Hmmm... sounds familiar. Didn't VMS have that? Oh wait, things like VMS didn't even exist! :-) How about OpenAFS? http://www.openafs.org/ We've used original AFS at University on SunOS/Solaris in the 90ies, and it's still going strong. Maybe FreeBSD's support in 1.6.0pre* needs a bit of love (?), but we definitely don't need to reinvent the wheel. ;-) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, C. P. Ghost wrote: Speaking with my university sysadmin hat on: you're NOT allowed to peek inside personal files of your users, UNLESS the user has waived his/her rights to privacy by explicitly agreeing to the TOS and there's legal language in the TOS that allows staff to inspect files (and then staff needs to abide by those rules in a very strict and cautious manner). So unless the TOS are very explicit, a sysadmin or an IT head can get in deep trouble w.r.t. privacy laws. Yes, but I am not an expert on privacy laws in France, and I suspect you are not either. Whether examining the magic number (first four bytes) of a file constitutes a breach of privacy is a matter for legal advice applicable to the particular jurisdiction. You certainly can look at the external package: file size and name. Fair enough. Automatically scanning files, hashing them etc... may or may not run afoul privacy laws... which vary widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. And yes, I'm no expert on french privacy laws. What can technically be done is that the copyright owner provides a list of hashes for his files, and requests that you traverse your filesystems, looking for files that match those hashes. AND, even then, all you can do is flag the files, and you'll have to check with the user that he/she doesn't own a license permitting him/her to own that file! You cannot generate a hash without at a certain automated level opening the file. If you can do that, couldn't you generate a hash of the first four bytes to match with hashes of known magic numbers? If you can look at the whole file, surely you can look at just the first four bytes. To check the magic numbers, you don't need a hash. Just check the magic numbers (where legally allowable). However, a magic number would merely say: this is an MP3, this is a MPEG file etc...: it is just a hint (and a very weak one at that) as to the types of files. You as staff will STILL have to manually look at the file: the MP3 could contain random noise, the MPEG could contain a private video or video letter etc. So practically, you'll get a list of users owning multimedia files. Unless your organization forbids files by content type, you still face the problem of identifying the infringingness of said files, and this can only be done reliably by manual (human) inspection. And here, we're right again deep in privacy protection land where things get incredibly hairy. However, even that isn't foolproof: nothing prevents a user from flipping a bit or two, rescaling, resampling, splitting the files into multiple files in a non-obvious manner, adding random bytes at the end etc...: the result would still be infringing, but can't be detected automatically (at least not in a reasonable amount of time). This is a bit like security. There is no absolute that can be achieved. You don't have to be smarter than God, you just have to be smarter than the users. Now the whole point of infringing schemes is that most dumb users have to be able to use the files they download. They can reasonablely do things like rename the files or pass them through a commonly available decoder. No point in trying to file share if users have to be the NSA to play the music. You can scan (where legal) for the common stuff. You can't find stuff encoded by Dr. Evil Genius Hacker -- but neither can the party claiming to be infringed and neither can Suzie Shebop who just wants free music. Yep. But Dr. Evil Genius Hacker could write a user friendly program that does all this, and John Stupiduser Doe would still be able to use it. Just think of the encrypted RAR files: how many users know how encryption works? Yet, it's the most widely used form for sharing files nowadays by countless technically ignorant users. Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction : - find and delete the files that's all. Bon courage then... A file can not be illegal per se, so you won't be able to detect these by looking up names or contents. Even then, if a file is labeled as personal, privacy protection applies and it is *unlawful* for you to process it. (That is in the same way that your employer is strictly forbidden from peeking inside your email messages clearly labeled as personal, even if they were received on your work mailbox.) Exactly! Speaking with my university sysadmin hat on: you're NOT allowed to peek inside personal files of your users, UNLESS the user has waived his/her rights to privacy by explicitly agreeing to the TOS and there's legal language in the TOS that allows staff to inspect files (and then staff needs to abide by those rules in a very strict and cautious manner). So unless the TOS are very explicit, a sysadmin or an IT head can get in deep trouble w.r.t. privacy laws. The poorly written IT TOS of a company can never bypass the law, regardless of anything you agreed to in your company's TOS. It *is* unlawful for them to even open your files as long as they are clearly labeled as private. Absolutely right. This can't be emphasized enough. As a matter of fact, we're merely setting quotas now (both total and per-file), and don't bother checking what the users are storing there. We also don't check their internet usage, though we do warn them if they exceed some bandwidth and remind them in general terms of respecting the law. Should there be some infringement case brought up, we let the lawyers of our law school / dept. and the lawyers of the copyright group or copyright owners fight this over between themselves. We as IT department don't inspect nor touch private files at all; unless when legally compelled to by a judge's order. Everything else would be just wasting resources and causing grief without end. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jerome Herman jher...@dichotomia.fr wrote: The best way to block illegal download before they happen. I found that closing most ports and requiring a login and password before giving access to unknown websites works wonder. (The access to the website is not blocked in any way, but you have to login first). That's indeed a pretty neat idea! Thanks for the hint. We've considered greylisting websites, and combining that with the campus wide logins, but that idea never flew. Don't know why and where it crashed. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: The poorly written IT TOS of a company can never bypass the law, regardless of anything you agreed to in your company's TOS. male bovine excrement applies. For example, if it is part of the _terms_of_emplyment_ -- which one *agreed* to, by going to work there --that you (the employeee) give permission for the company, or it's agents, to examine any file you store on the system. It depends on the jurisdiction. For example, in Germany, you as an employee CAN'T waive some basic rights by law, and every waiver you've signed with your employer is automatically null and void, at least the provisions that affect those specific rights. It may not be the same in your jurisdiction though, so you may be right too... in your jurisdiction. It *is* unlawful for them to even open your files as long as they are clearly labeled as private. Oh my. making back-ups is unlawful. Replacing a failed drive in a RAID array is unlawful. Re-arranging storage allocation is unlawful. *SNORT* From context, I assume he was meaning opening manually, i.e. inspecting by a human being. Merely copying files as in backups and normal day to day sysadmin routine, doesn't count as such, even though it is technically open(2)ing. ;-) This is a corporate environment, it is in the terms of employment that company computers are for business use only, that anything on the machines is 'work done for hire', and thus property of the company. Again, jurisdictions vary widely. We here in Europe are at the farthest spectrum in terms of privacy protection of workers (students etc..) in the workplace (school etc...). It may be different elsewhere. And since the OP was in France, we're discussing this under the assumption that their laws are pretty severe w.r.t. privacy, and at least meeting if not exceeding European privacy and data protection standards. It's =not= a technology 'arms race', it is a simple matter of 'personnel management' and addressable on that basis. This does _not_ mean that 'technology' cannot serve a function in policy enforcement -- it simply means that technology, _in_and_of_itself_ is not the solution. Agreed. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: tftp - bad checksum error? can't transfer file
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: I've had some trouble netbooting / jumpstaring recently with a similar pattern (using RARP/BOOTP/TFTP/NFS). It turned out to be a dying port on the switch whose errors were masked by TCP in day to day use, but alas were too frequent for UDP. I just have a direct ethernet connection between my FreeBSD laptop with bootpd/tftpd servers (one ethernet port only) and a node which I want to boot (also a single ethernet port). Is there way for me to check whether either of these ports are dying? Any further diagnostics I can do? Just push a lot of data (/dev/zero, /dev/urandom, ...) over this connection, via ssh or something like that, and monitor the error rates in netstat -in on both ends. Look at Ierrs, Idrop and Oerrs columns. If one of those ports are dying, or if your cable isn't properly shielded, you'll notice immediately. Many thanks Anton -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: tftp - bad checksum error? can't transfer file
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: I'm trying to troubleshoot tftpd(8). (...) 192.168.232.10.15388 buzi.tftp: [no cksum] 25 RRQ /bsd.rd.IP32 octet ( o 23:25:21.024160 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 56, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (1 7), length 30, bad cksum 0 (-293a)!) buzi.19330 192.168.232.10.15388: [udp sum ok] UDP, length 2 23:25:51.013759 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 256, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 53) I've had some trouble netbooting / jumpstaring recently with a similar pattern (using RARP/BOOTP/TFTP/NFS). It turned out to be a dying port on the switch whose errors were masked by TCP in day to day use, but alas were too frequent for UDP. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: why desktop apps are able to kill my freebsd box?
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Timo timo.bsdm...@gmail.com wrote: Why a faulty desktop application run as unprivileged user is able to crash my system? I mean, I know programs have bugs and sometimes they lead to crashes. I'm fine with that. But why a crashing program (for example firefox or banshee) is able to kill the whole system? And by 'crash' or 'kill' i mean that for whatever reason the system is frozen and doesn't reply to anything but a hard reset. Can you still log in via ssh from another box? Or at least, can you ping the frozen box from the outside? Usually, a frozen system isn't really frozen, it's just Xorg which is. And that's often related to buggy graphics drivers. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
