Updating the system and ports
Hi Folk, Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list, I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch. I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ... # freebsd-update fetch Lookin up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed Give up, no remaining mirrors. (I didn't run script(1), I hard typed from my memory.) I tried many times, the results were always the same. I don't know what happen. So I switch to update from source. REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and buildworld/kernel. Now I am running 8.0-RELEASE-p2. But I am expecting 8.0-STABLE-p2. I don't understand. The handbook did not say anything about the capitalized RELEASE. At least I did not find it. I only notice that I always get RELEASE when freshly install from CDs. But when build from sources sometimes I get RELEASE. And sometimes I get STABLE. 1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE? 2. After buildworld/kernel finished, I tried freebsd-upgrade again. Now it works. There are still 20 files to fetch and install. Only 8 hours between csup all sources and freebsd-upgrade. Is it normal to have such 20 outstanding files during short period? 3. freebsd-upgrade did not request for mergemaster(8). How can we ensure that things in /etc go well? 4. After this step, I would probably run portmaster. sleepy now :-( I want to know how often you normally update the ``system'' and ``ports''? If both are normally done EVERYDAY, freebsd-update is relatively fast. But portmaster is somewhat slow to build all ports from sources. One may have hundreds ports, if not thousands. Please give me some hints, what are you normally do? Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: Updating the system and ports
Hi Folk, Further to previous suggestion in this mailing list, I have just updated from FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE to the latest patch. I firstly use freebsd-update but it failed ... # freebsd-update fetch Lookin up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed Give up, no remaining mirrors. (I didn't run script(1), I hard typed from my memory.) I tried many times, the results were always the same. I don't know what happen. So I switch to update from source. REL_ENG_8_0 is specified in stable-supfile. After csup and buildworld/kernel. Now I am running 8.0-RELEASE-p2. But I am expecting 8.0-STABLE-p2. I don't understand. The handbook did not say anything about the capitalized RELEASE. At least I did not find it. I only notice that I always get RELEASE when freshly install from CDs. But when build from sources sometimes I get RELEASE. And sometimes I get STABLE. 1. What is the difference between RELEASE and STABLE? 2. After buildworld/kernel finished, I tried freebsd-upgrade again. Now it works. There are still 20 files to fetch and install. Only 8 hours between csup all sources and freebsd-upgrade. Is it normal to have such 20 outstanding files during short period? 3. freebsd-update did not request for mergemaster(8). [edit] How can we ensure that things in /etc go well? 4. After this step, I would probably run portmaster. sleepy now :-( I want to know how often you normally update the ``system'' and ``ports''? If both are normally done EVERYDAY, freebsd-update is relatively fast. But portmaster is somewhat slow to build all ports from sources. One may have hundreds ports, if not thousands. Please give me some hints, what are you normally do? Thanks, Pongthep - End forwarded message - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Updating the system and ports
* Chuck Swiger (cswi...@mac.com) wrote: If you track RELENG_8, you get -STABLE system from a build cycle. If you track RELENG_8_0, you are tracking the security branch and get your own official -RELEASE system from the build cycle. http://www.freebsd.org/security/ says: Supported FreeBSD Releases The FreeBSD Security Officer provides security advisories for several branches of FreeBSD development. These are the -STABLE Branches and the Security Branches. (Advisories are not issued for the -CURRENT Branch.) ? The -STABLE branch tags have names like RELENG_7. The corresponding builds have names like FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE. ? Each FreeBSD Release has an associated Security Branch. The Security Branch tags have names like RELENG_7_0. The corresponding builds have names like FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1. You explained very clear, much appreciated. However, one does not normally swap back and forth between building from source and doing binary upgrades, although it's certainly fine if you wanted to get freebsd-upgrade working and use it from here on out. I only wanted to try again because the previous tries failed. I actually was not expecting any update to be occured. From now on I should adhere with binary update, very fast. It also synchronizes source tree with binary. But I'm still question that how can we keep long uptime, if we always boot. Some boxes have been serving for many years without shutdown. 3. freebsd-update did not request for mergemaster(8). [edit] How can we ensure that things in /etc go well? Read /usr/src/UPDATING for notes about important changes. Very technical, few people can understand. It's good anyway. :-) Run mergemaster -iU, although you don't need to bother unless you're moving to at least a .x upgrade or there was a specific mention in the security advisory otherwise. Okay. I update most systems at least as often as FreeBSD security advisories are posted; Where or which mailing lists? Is there any ``push model'' like Windows Update? It will prompt right after boot finish, when new patches exist. and ports whenever portaudit warns of an issue. If a new version of something which is a primary function of some box is updated, I might update more frequently for such a specific reason. I have just know that ports-mgmt/portaudit can also report the availability of new ports. I thought that it only issues warnings when security vulnerabilities occurs. I have test machines that get updated about weekly. I have firewall boxes with multiyear uptimes where I've only updated OpenSSH+OpenSSL when needed, since port 22 for management is all they do. So you didn't update the system to keep long uptime. I'm going to conclude from this question that you aren't running production systems. :-) Yes I'm a novice (hobbyist). :-) You only need to rebuild all ports when you are updating the system for a major release, like from 7.x to 8.x. Otherwise, portmaster, portupgrade, etc will determine which ports have changes and only rebuild those ones. I shall use portmaster whenever I update *major* or *minor* release. But excluding patches. Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Updating the system and ports
* RW (rwmailli...@googlemail.com) wrote: that should be RELENG_8_0 Sorry for typo, but actually I only appended to the existing supfile. Thing goes well. Stable is a stable development branch, if you want to use freebsd-update you need to use a proper release security branch. Does that mean -STABLE can not use freebsd-update? If so, I am clear now because I encountered the problem when I used freebsd-update from -STABLE. It failed. Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD
* Chuck Swiger (cswi...@mac.com) wrote: Yes, it's not enough. When you upgrade the base OS to a new major version (ie, going from 7.x to 8.x), the system libraries get bumped to a new version, but any libraries coming from ports are still linked against the older version of the frameworks. If you don't touch anything, backwards compatibility for 7.x will continue to work fine, but as soon as you start installing something new or upgrade any port, you run into the situation where executables are linked against two different versions of libc.so (etc) and they break. For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major version, then you must rebuild all installed ports. Thank you for your suggestions. I should mention that recently ``cdrecord'' is broken in 8.0. It ran pretty well in 7.2. After I updated the ports and rebuilt, it works fine. But it takes very long time to rebuild all ports. Main problem is KDE, big big ports. Okay, I shall do it, when I have time. Things going into -CURRENT may not be well tested, but anything being merged back to -STABLE ought to be. Humans make mistakes, but I can't recall more than two or maybe three significant issues over a decade tracking -STABLE, and these were fixed in a matter of hours. If you do care about this level of precision, you should be building to a test platform and then running sanity checks for whatever your machines do before upgrading production boxes, anyway. Beyond that, however, you ought to consider tracking the security branch, ie, RELENG_8_0, rather than 8-STABLE aka RELENG_8, as the former does include recommended changes like security bugfixes, but avoids merging in anything which has not been well tested. I understand what you said. But I always have no time to do so. Normally, I concentrate on my work rather than tracking new patches. * Robert Huff (roberth...@rcn.com) wrote: Chuck Swiger writes: And if you have the time and knowledge to not have to do this ... you're probably not involved in the discussion to begin with. :-) I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them. Excluding GUI stuffs. When I want to update *ALL* these kinds of things (2-3 years once), I wget iso images, in stead of cvsup/csup. I always do this way since 5.4 without any problems excepted ``cdrecord'' as mentioned earlier. Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD
Hi Polytropon, Firstly, thanks for your suggestion. * Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote: You can consider using pkgadd -r to install binary packages. Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are centrally built from the ports tree). I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X). I would probably not do so. What about using freebsd-update? It delivers patches in binary form for the OS, so you don't need to make world and kernel, and if you're following the 8.x-RELEASE-p track, you don't have to recompile your whole software ports - as it has been mentioned, this is only needed if you update the major version number (e. g. 7.2 - 8.0). Once I used binary upgrade from 6.2 - 6.3. The source tree was still 6.2 while the system was 6.3. I know there are no problems with the system. But it is *untidy*, I don't want to. I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them. Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here. Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you. I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and portmaster. I am now thinking which one is better. I must also check time and disk space required to build all these ports. Oh yes, the joy if you want to have a german OpenOffice version, where you could run pkg_add -r de-openoffice in the past... :-) I know what you mean, I try to avoid compile orgies whenever possible, at least on my home system. On servers which usually don't have GUI stuff, but services that need updates often due to security considerations, it's not a big deal.) I have nothing to do with Office suite. I might probably not do so, thanks. The ISO images are tied to a specific OS version, and they can be used with it without problems. You can run into trouble when upgrading the OS, and then try to install software from a CD that expects another OS version. I have never installed any softwares from CD/DVD. I install from CD only when I want to wipe out everything. And install a new fresh system. Using pkg_add -r offers the same comfortability as installing software from local CD or DVD, but it's usually up to date and fits better to the ports tree - which is useful when you install software both from source and from binaries. If I choose between packages and ports, I opt ports. As previously mentioned ``portmaster'' or ``portmanager'' should be helpful. Please give some comments, which one is better. I read from handbook; but I have never used it. I don't know so much in this area. It is system specific and not part of the standard (POSIX or SUS). Note: I'm just a hobbyist not pro. :-) Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
* Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote:
Do you have compat7x installed?
No I don't.
If you already updated to OS 8.0,
you should update your ports tree, too, and
use the current ports.
I always csup the SELECTED port tree but not all.
Just installing isn't enough, there's some configuration work
to be done.
I don't know kinda GUI, so I don't know how to configure it.
Please point me to some tutorial.
By the way, you may be interested in checking how gnash
(a GNU based Flash implementation) or swfdec may fit
your needs.
I shall check.
Sure. Maybe the handbook can help here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
See 6.2.3 for detailed information.
Okay, but I don't want to install firefox.
I'm much familiar with opera esp. mouse gesturing.
The handbook says very little about Opera.
* Sabine Baer (bae...@t-online.de) wrote:
I have installed
emulators/linux_base-f10,
www/linux-opera-10.10 and
linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45
on a 7.2 FreeBSD an can now look at and listen to flash movies on
youtube and other sites.
This seems very likely.
But I have already done exactly what you described (but on FBSD 8.0).
Still not OK. I can not even start linux-opera. For you diagnostic,
When starting from console, it complains ...
% linux-opera
shm_allow_removed is disable, set OPERA_NUM_XSHM to 0 to disable shared memory.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
/usr/local/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: error while loading shared libraries:
libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
%
* Robert Bonomi (bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com) wrote:
needless to say, you have to have linux emulation build int (or kdloaded)
in your kernel.
*and* the linux emulation package ( name is {mumble}-fc10, for 'Fedora Core
10' )
installed.
*then* you can install the other packages.
I have selected linux emulation since I installed it from CD.
And it is still enabled in /etc/rc.conf.
Thanks,
Pongthep
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Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: HI ! I tested the process of installing firefox/opera and flash plugin. Everything run on my system FreeBSD 8, even though I did not stress browser plugin. Here's all the step that I took to make the flash plugin work for firefox and opera (basically I followed the handbook). --- Installed /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10 --- kldload linux --- mount linprocfs --- installed /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10/ (--- installed /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper) (--- ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ ) (--- as normal user I executed nspluginwrapper ... etc) --- installed ___NATIVE FREEBSD version___ of Opera [/usr/ports/www/opera] --- installed /usr/ports/www/opera-linuxplugins/. Still does NOT work! I also tried deinstalling all stuffs, which were installed in the previous sessions. And then I tried installing them again as followings (excerpted from handbook). emulator/linux_base-f10 www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 www/nspluginwrapper # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i (normal user) # mount -t linprocfs linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc www/opera (native FBSD) www/opera-linuxplugins Again, it still does NOT work! (Note that only missing from the previous session is ``kldload linux'', which was loaded at boot time.) Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0. Some libraries are probably not updated??? But ``make install'' success, so libraries should not be problems. I don't know. FBSD should make it simpler than this. Some Linux distros, flash plug-ins are installed in default configuration. But I shall not go back to Linux, anyway. :-) Actually, I only want to study Unix console, C language and some administrations. In GUI world, I only want to point and click. Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: hmmm... :-/ is at least now the web browser opera working ? Yes it is working. Thanks for your prompt response. Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: hmmm... :-/ is at least now the web browser opera working ? [edit]Yes, it is working but without flash. [/edit] Thanks for your prompt response. Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
* C. P. Ghost (cpgh...@cordula.ws) wrote: If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually updated the system and the ports as well? % uname -a FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 1 19:12:37 ICT 2009 r...@bsdhost.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 But port tree is very large. I only update the followings. ports-base ports-archivers ports-audio ports-devel ports-dns ports-editors ports-emulators ports-ftp ports-graphics ports-lang ports-mail ports-misc ports-net ports-security ports-sysutils ports-www I reinstall only some ports, which I considerd important. It should. But what can we do if Adobe doesn't even acknowledge our existence and refuses to provide a FreeBSD version of their Flash player? Sad... Sure, Linux has a bigger market share, so they get enough love from Adobe... though I understand that Flash support for Linux/x86-64 isn't all that good either (?). They will tend to FreeBSD some day, much better. IMHO, the best OS is FreeBSD. The best OS with GUI is OS-X. Both are BSDs. As said, if all else breaks, try running OpenSolaris (or a Linux distro) as a guest OS inside VirtualBox. This way, you have the best of both worlds. I don't want to. Even now I have 2 OSes installed, I still hate it. In fact, 90% I boot of FreeBSD (at home). Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
* Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote: When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely. All operating systems can always distinguish the system and packages. For instance, gcc is tightly coupled with the system, it will be upgraded automatically while upgrading the system. Some people only use console, they should rebuild all ports relating to their work. They do not have to rebuild KDE or GNOME, for example. I myself, after upgrading the system, I always rebuild MOST of textual ports like vim, fetchmail, apache, etc and all ports required by them. For GUI application, I keep updating ONLY web browser because the old version is usually prone to vulnerability issues. If it is not enough, please tell me. :-) Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: Dont worry I wanted to try to help for what I can. I installed the plugin this morning and I was curious. Thank you again for your kind. It's strange though. The plugin is there. I dont know if there's a kind of log somewhere to see if it sees it. I also don't know. :-( The last option I am thinking of in this respect is this : From the opera web browser interface find the menu tools and select it then - preferences - advanced Look at the content menu. Enable plugins item must be activated and then the plug-in options must show at least this path /usr/local/lib/npapi/symlinks/linux-opera and also inform that it finds the flash plugin. let me know ! But for the moment I can not think of anything more :-/ The followings are all enabled. animated images sound in Web pages JavaScript Java plug-ins JavaScript Options... blank path Java Options... blank path Plug-in Options... Detected plug-ins are blank Plug-in path are as followings. /usr/local/share/opera/plugins/ /usr/local/lib/npapi/symlinks/opera/ /usr/local/lib/npapi/symlinks/linux-opera/ Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
* C. P. Ghost (cpgh...@cordula.ws) wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: % uname -a FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 1 19:12:37 ICT 2009 r...@bsdhost.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 So your system is approx. 4 months old, despite you cvsup-ping? I don't know what do you mean. Normally, FBSD issues new STABLE RELEASE once a year (approx). Whenever new release or new branch is available, I shall do either wget iso images, or cvsup/csup and buildworld. The time between RELEASEs, there are patches. But FBSD teams stated that those patches are not well tested comparing to RELEASE. So I do not update the system until new STABLE RELEASE is available again. That's understandable. I boot FreeBSD/amd64 almost exclusively too. Only when I absolutely need Flash (and I very seldom do), I fire up VirtualBox on FreeBSD with a little OpenSolaris installation. Since this OpenSolaris guest lives in a single VirtualBox disk image, it doesn't clutter up my FreeBSD system, contrary to the whole Linux compat shims and RPMs needed to run the linux flash plugin. I did not install VirtualBox like VM Ware. I only use dual boot FBSD and Windows. I think many times to install VM Ware. But I am too lazy to do it. ;-p 1. In my opinion UFS2 is much more superior than NTFS. I'm not quite sure if UFS2 can reside in NTFS very well. (in case Windows is a host OS, and FBSD is a guest OS.) 2. My friend also suggests me that host OS can share device drivers to guest OS. I'm not sure, anybody can confirm this? if so, we can install FBSD on any laptops and use shared drivers from host OS (Windows or OS-X). Normally I only use console. My life with FBSD is not so colorful (excepted syntax highlighting in vim editor). I also have KDE installed. But I don't use it as much as console. Whenever I need flash (not often). I use my other computer (I have 2 computers) or reboot Windows. Cheers, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Flash viewer for FBSD
Hi all, I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0. Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby). All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI. For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows. Now I want to use only FBSD for web browsing and don't want to use Windows. I installed FBSD 7.1 with KDE 3.5 from CD. Then I csup(ed) and buildworld to FBSD 7.2 and then finally FBSD 8.0 while remaining KDE unchanged. I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. The problem is that ``flash viewer'' is not installed. Shockwave/Adobe/Macromedia flash viewers are not shipped with FBSD CD. It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I tried installing from ports. - opera-linuxplugins-10.10. - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it stands for ``flash for linux''.) But they do not fix the problem. Anyone who can fix this problem please point me out. Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem with boot0cfg
Hi All, Last week my harddisk was broken and wiped out the slice of FreeBSD 7.1R. I decided to bring back my old harddisk with 3 partitions i.e. Windows ME, Windows 2000 and a free partition. It has a menu for selecting which Windows to boot and I have tested booting them. Then I installed FreeBSD-7.1R (from CD) on the free partition and selected boot manager while installing. After completion and reboot the following options presented. F1DOS F2DOS F3FreeBSD But only F3 (FreeBSD) can boot, both Windows can't boot and just hanged. The following is diagnostic. # boot0cfg -v ad0 # flag start chs type end chs offset size 1 0x00 0: 1: 1 0x0b 1023: 9:63 63 4208967 2 0x00 1023:255:63 0x07 1023: 12:63 4209030 10490445 3 0x80 1023:255:63 0xa5 1023: 15:63 14699475 18983853 version=1.0 drive=0x80 mask=0x7 ticks=182 options=packet,update,nosetdrv default_selection=F3 (Slice 3) Any suggestion would be highly appreciated. Please note that previously I used LILO for boot manager. Now I want to use only FBSD tool but I know very little about boot0cfg. Thanks, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.1R on laptop
Hi, Thanks for your response. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, greg.st...@sungard.com wrote: Some laptops do come with COM ports still. Usually they are the business models. For example, the Dell Latitude 820's have them. Actually I don't want to adhere with such thing. I think laptop with COM port will be extinct very soon due to marketing. I don't want to find the solution again after says 5 years. I believe that MANY people here are using FreeBSD on laptops without COM port. But I don't know how they fix the problem of internal modem built with the laptop. The only solution I can think right now is staying in LAN and behind NAT. Thanks, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 7.1R on laptop
Hi all, I am using FBSD 7.1R on PC. But yesterday (8 Mar 09) my hard disk was physically broken. My machine is very old anyway. So I want to buy a new laptop (notebook). I have some questions. 1. Previously I use ADSL but now I go back to 56k serial modem. The problem is new laptops do not provide COM port (/dev/cuad?). I must use internal modem built with the laptop. I'm not sure whether this internal modem can be found by FBSD 7.1R or not. If not, how to do? (Sorry I never used laptop.) 2. Previously, I used LILO boot manager (from Linux) for selecting FBSD, Linux or WinXP. But nowadays most of the time I use only FBSD and don't use Linux at all. So I don't want to waste the space installing linux on my new laptop. But I use XP occassionally. I need to know whether FBSD boot manager can select and boot XP or not? How to do it? I didn't find it in the handbook. Note that I know grub. But I really want to know the way, the system provide. Because I have a long story of this problem. Once (5 years ago) I installed FBSD success but without caution. I rebooted then I could not run the freshly installed system. Because there was no options for selecting the new system. :-( That time I ended up with LILO to fix the problem. But this time I just don't want to install Linux. So I want to use only what, the system provides. Thanks, Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem about ppp -nat
Hi all, set log phase chat connect carrier link ipcp ccp ID0 TUN command I still can't dial using this configuration... # ppp -background isp Loading /lib/libalias_cuseeme.so Loading /lib/libalias_ftp.so Loading /lib/libalias_irc.so Loading /lib/libalias_nbt.so Loading /lib/libalias_pptp.so Loading /lib/libalias_skinny.so Loading /lib/libalias_smedia.so Working in background mode Using interface: tun0 Warning: carrier: Invalid log value Warning: link: Invalid log value Warning: usage: set log [local] [+|-]all|async|cbcp|ccp|chat|command|connect|debug|dns|hdlc|id0|ipcp|lcp|lqm|phase|physical|radius|sync|tcp/ip|timer|tun... Attempting redial Attempting redial Attempting redial I then removed ``carrier'' and ``link''. It always keeps redialing without hearing dialing tone from the modem. So I removed ``connect'' again. The result was still the same. Try /dev/cuaa0. At least in the olden days, cuad0 was configured more for dialin rather than dialout. This may? explain the next two lines: It keeps redialing without hearing any tone from the modem. So I switched back to /dev/cuad0. Then dial; now I hear dialing tone from the modem but warning message of ``Child failed (errdead)'' occured then line dropped. And can not connect. I tried it many times. Note that /dev/cuad0 appeared in my /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample, not /dev/cuaa0. If I remember correctly I changed from cuaa0 to cuad0 when I upgraded from FBSD5.4R to FBSD6.2R. [...] Working in background mode Using interface: tun0 Child failed (errdead) set ctsrts off # enables software flow control set accmap 000a # comments out these 2 lines for hardware flow control Not sure why you don't want to use hardware flow control? Is this with a regular external modem? Anyway, I've always used ctsrts (with cuaa0). 5 year ago, I downloaded this ppp.conf from some web site. But anyway, I did follow your suggestion i.e. hardware flow control. It still doesn't work as ``Child failed''. Actually I don't know so much in this area (flow control). I only code C on *Unix. I rarely do this kind of things e.g. system setup or configuration. And yes, it is a regular external modem. add! default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route [...] add 0 0 HISADDR You probably don't want both those add statements. Try taking out the first one, and replacing the last one with the add! default HISADDR. I changed it before dialing. Unsure if you need an 'enable pap' as well, maybe default. Can't hurt. I added it before dialing. But all failed. I think it is probably caused by ipdivert. Anyway, some extra logging should show you when and how it fails, if it still does .. Nov 30 17:00:00 bsdhost newsyslog[960]: logfile turned over due to size100K Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set device /dev/cuad0 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set speed 115200 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: disable pred1 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: deny pred1 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: disable lqr Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: deny lqr Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \dATDT\T TIMEOUT 180 CONNECT Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set redial 3 20 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: enable dns Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: 0x28389e78 = fopen(/etc/ppp/ppp.conf, r) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set phone 0123456789 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set authname [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set authkey ** Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set timeout 0 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set openmode active Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: accept pap Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: enable pap Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: add! default HISADDR Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: 10 = socket(17, 3, 0) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: -1 = write(10, data, 140) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0x28389e78 = fopen(/var/run/tun0.pid, w) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (background mode). Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed - opening Nov 30
Re: Problem about ppp -nat
Hi all, I didn't touch /etc/ppp/ppp.conf, which has been working for 5 years since FBSD5.0R. Even if I go back to GENERIC kernel. I could not dial out to ISP in any ways. I didn't know what I do wrong even if I did read many docs. I tried exactly what being described in the handbook. But all failed, I still can't dial ISP. I think that posting /etc/ppp/ppp.conf may be useful for your diagnostic. Note that this file has been used for long time and never changed. But I've just reminded that ppp is changed from version to version. My ppp.conf may not suit the current version. I don't know. # cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cuad0 set ctsrts off # enables software flow control set accmap 000a# comments out these 2 lines for hardware flow control set speed 115200 disable pred1 deny pred1 disable lqr deny lqr set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \\ AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 180 CONNECT set redial 3 20 enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) isp: set phone 0123456789 set authname [EMAIL PROTECTED] set authkey mypassword set timeout 0 add! default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route set openmode active accept pap set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add 0 0 HISADDR Thank you. Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem about ppp -nat
Hi All, Firstly, I'm sorry for late reply. For simplicity to your responses, I shall ask question by question... * Manolis Kiagias ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There are at least two ways that I know of to achieve this. One uses the ipfw firewall, the other the pf firewall. For the ipfw solution, look at the FreeBSD Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-natd.html 1. I heard that ppp itself has capability of NAT. It can work with the command ppp -nat and without running natd. Please tell me whether it is right or wrong. ipfw is the same. If natd is not used, I can't add the rule ... add divert natd ip from any to any via tun0 to /etc/ipfw.rules. I'm confused. 2. And if natd is still required, what -nat argument (ppp -nat) is for? This worked fine for me, although I prefer to use pf. Here is how I setup pf (Adjust for your interfaces as necessary) My Internet interface is rl0, setup in rc.conf as: ifconfig_rl0=inet 192.168.0.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 My local interface is rl1, setup in rc.conf as: ifconfig_rl1=inet 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 3. I haven't mentioned that I can't use this configuration. I have 2 interfaces i.e. public and private LAN. But I have only one NIC card for private LAN. I don't have NIC card for public. I'm using 56k modem to connect the outside world. I think I can't add ifconfig_tun0=inet 192.168.0.100 netmask 0xff00 to /etc/rc.conf. If I'm wrong, please tell me. I did much googling. All sites always refer 2 NIC cards being used like your example. I do have only one NIC card + 56k serial modem (/dev/cuad0). (I also have a defaultrouter setting which probably does not apply to you) I have nameserver entries in /etc/resolv.conf (or setup your own DNS server if you wish) 4. I also have nameserver entries. I tried setting DNS server on my WinXP host to both gateway (FBSD host) and DNS servers of ISP. Both don't work. Use this settings in rc.conf for pf: pf_enable=YES pflog_logfile=/var/log/pflog pflog_flags= pf_rules=/etc/pf.conf pf_flags= gateway_enable=YES 5. I think I have equivalent setting of ipfw in /etc/rc.conf but don't work. gateway_enable=YES firewall_enable=YES firewall_type=OPEN firewall_quite=YES firewall_script=/etc/ipfw.rules firewall_logging=YES Run: # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 # /etc/rc.d/routing restart Add net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 to /etc/sysctl.conf so it persists reboots 6. I recompiled my kernel. options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=120 options IPDIVERT I think it should be equivalent to sysctl setting. Add the following rule to /etc/pf.conf nat pass on rl0 from rl1:network to any - rl0 AFAIR, if rl0 has a dynamic address, you will have to write it with parentheses, like: nat pass on rl0 from rl1:network to any - (rl0) (Note that in /etc/pf.conf translation rules like the above, are placed above filtering rules like pass or block etc) You may have to adjust /etc/pf.conf filtering rules, assuming you have any. Restart some services # /etc/rc.d/netif restart # /etc/rc.d/routing restart # /etc/rc.d/pf restart or simply reboot, and you should be set. 7. I don't know about PF. * Fbsd1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You need to run dhcp so you can assign ip address on the LAN so the down stream xp box can gain access to the public internet through your gateway freebsd box. There is a detailed step by step instructions in the install guide at www.a1poweruser.com 8. I read doc from the mentioned site. The doc does not mention anything about sharing ppp dial-up to the other host. And I'm sorry dhcp is not the point of my concern now. I only want to share internet access whether IP is static or dynamic. BTW the doc is very good anyway. I shall keep it. :-) * Polytropon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: First of all, I made my kernel capable; significant parts: # Firewall, NAT ...blah 9. I compiled the kernel following your advice excepted NETGRAPH. I think PPPoE is not the point of concern Configuration in /etc/rc.conf goes this way: ifconfig_xl0=inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ifconfig_rl0=inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xff00 media 10baseT/UTP 10. As said earlier, my interface connecting to outside are 56k serial modem (/dev/cuad0). I think I can't set /dev/cuad0 (or even tun0) in this way. 11. CONCLUSION: I did read much document. More I read, more I get confused. I tried many possible things but still don't work. My RECENT configurations are as followings. /etc/rc.conf gateway_enable=YES firewall_enable=YES firewall_type=OPEN firewall_quite=YES natd_enable=YES natd_interface=tun0 natd_flags=-s -u -m kernel options options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=120 options IPDIVERT /etc/ipfw.rules add divert natd ip from any to any via tun0
Problem about ppp -nat
Hi All, I have just subscribed to freebsd-questions and I have a question about ppp -nat. I have 2 computers. One is running FreeBSD-7.0R, the other is running WinXP. The host running FBSD7.0R has been connecting to the outside world using user-ppp without any problem for very long. Now I want to share internet access to the other host behind NAT through this FBSD host. My FBSD machine has 2 interfaces i.e. tun0 (connecting to ISP) with dynamic IP (of course) fxp0 (for internal LAN) with static IP of 192.168.1.10 My WinXP machine has 1 interface (internal LAN) with static IP of 192.168.1.11 Previously I have a router acting as a gateway for all machines behind NAT. But now I want FBSD machine to work as a gateway. I have never done this before. I tried some googling with reading ppp(8) and ipfw(8). And I tried masquerading but it didn't work. I have plenty configuration files. But the relevant configurations are listed here. /etc/rc.conf # enable IP forwarding gateway_enable=YES # previously I ran web-server, just disable it or comment it out, not sure why! #apache_enable=YES On the host running WinXP, I set its gateway and DNS server to the IP of ppp host i.e. 192.168.1.10. I then inserted the following line as the first rule in /etc/ipfw.rules. /sbin/ipfw add allow all from any to any via fxp0 (I know this rule is dangerous, but just for testing.) I then issue the ppp command. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ppp -background -nat myisp FBSD host (running ppp) can access anywhere but WinXP host can't. I learned from some site explaining that ppp itself has the capability of IP masquerading. And it does not require natd(8). So I don't mention about natd here. Anyone have a clue or who have done the correct configurations, please point me out. Thank you in advance. Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
