from:"Xn Nooby"

   # portsnap fetch update
   # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster
   # make install
   # portmaster --check-depends
   # portmaster www/firefox

Thanks!, that worked, though I had to do a 'rehash' after the 'make install'.

 There is work going on to change this situation -- search the list
 archives for discussion of pkgNG and PC-PSD's .pci format if you're
 interested. In the mean time, many people find that installing
 everything from source via the ports is the least frustrating method,
 albeit at the cost of spending more time running compilations.

I started using the approach of installing everything from ports, but
it takes a long time to build things like xorg and firefox. Even
though I don't like PC-BSD using KDE, their PBI system seems to
circumvent these problems.  I will read up on pkgNG, too.  Thanks!
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The Perfect Desktop: FreebSD 8.2 in Virtualbox 4?

HowtoForge has a lot of good examples of how to install and configure
a desktop system using various Linux distributions, but there are none
on how to create a FreeBSD desktop.  Would someone will be willing to
put one together?

I envision this more of a how-to than just providing an appliance.
The goal would be to show how to configure the system on a
hardware-neutral platform (Virtualbox VM), so that people could use it
as an example for setting up their own systems.  I suspect a lot of
people would use this guide for setting up a laptop, so an
underpowered VM would be a good proxy.

Some parameters for the guide could be:
 - uses 8.2 installer
 - tracks errata branch with FreeBSD update
 - tracks 8-stable branch for ports
 - builds from source minimally (laptops are slow!)
 - demonstrates how to install many desktop apps
 - uses a lightweight VM, icewm or openbox ?
 - optionally uses a heavyweight WM, Gnome3 ?
 - ideally demonstrates best practices
 - looks good, with nice fonts
 - optionally supports openGL (desktop users would need that)
 - optionally includes tips for upgrading to 8.3+

Here is the page for Debian Lenny as an example:

http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-debian-lenny

I know the Handbook has everything it it, but I am looking for
something that can leverage the fact that in a VM the hardware is
known in advance.  The instructions could then be very direct, and
would not have to cover all possible situations.  They would simply be
do exactly these commands.

Admittedly I am asking for what I need, but there might be others who
could benefit.  I have been trying to make a script to do these
automatically, but I am still having problems understanding certain
things.  I could help some, by testing, and I can write an install
script to automate anything that I can understand.
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Re: The Perfect Desktop: FreebSD 8.2 in Virtualbox 4?

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Sun, 22 May 2011 15:17:50 -0400, Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com wrote:
 HowtoForge has a lot of good examples of how to install and configure
 a desktop system using various Linux distributions, but there are none
 on how to create a FreeBSD desktop.  Would someone will be willing to
 put one together?

 U think the majority of FreeBSD users who use the system
 on their desktop won't agree on the one desktop, as
 everyone I've encountered so far has different preferences
 and requirements. So a generalized statement is quite hard.
 There are systems with preconfigured desktops, such as
 PC-BSD, DesktopBSD and FreeSBIE.


I'm thinking about new users, rather than typical users. A typical
FreeBSD user probably already knows how to configure a desktop that is
ideal for them.  A new user will take whatever they can get working,
and keep working.


 I envision this more of a how-to than just providing an appliance.

 But that would be a good starting point for learning on
 how the inventors of VirtualBSD (to name an appliance)
 have done it, and build an own system from there on,
 keeping The FreeBSD Handbook at hand.

 See http://www.virtualbsd.info/ for details.


I had previously visited their site, but they did not have
instructions on how they created the appliance, or a forum to discuss
it.


 The goal would be to show how to configure the system on a
 hardware-neutral platform (Virtualbox VM), so that people could use it
 as an example for setting up their own systems.

 I'm sure the handbook's sections about the required
 parts can be very easily applied to virtual hardware,
 as they are generic enough to cover them.


When I configured the sound driver on my machines, I had to go through
a discovery process to find out what driver was required on each
machine.  Inside a VM, you would know what driver to load, and you
could just tell the user to install the sound driver with this
command.  You wouldn't have to tell them how to figure out which
driver to install.


 I suspect a lot of
 people would use this guide for setting up a laptop, so an
 underpowered VM would be a good proxy.

 Due to hardware limitations (incompatible parts) mostly
 found in modern laptops, I would assume that FreeBSD
 users prefer running the system on hardware that is
 known to work...


I would expect that a typical new desktop user would be using an old
computer purchased before they knew anything about FreeBSD. Or even
more likely, a virtual machine hosted on a Windows box.


 Some parameters for the guide could be:
  - uses 8.2 installer
  - tracks errata branch with FreeBSD update
  - tracks 8-stable branch for ports

 Depends on preferred usage paradigm.


Yes and that paradigm would have to be properly defined.  My
definition would be that of a hobbyist desktop user who wants a
functioning and maintainable desktop enviroment. In the Debian example
I gave, their included software implies their target audience.  I'm
not interested in hosting 5000 jails, running a database cluster, or
acting as the neighborhood ISP.


  - builds from source minimally (laptops are slow!)

 There are laptops with resources equal to a fullblown
 desktop machine. :-)



  - demonstrates how to install many desktop apps

 That would be covered by how to install additional
 software, which means pkg_add, make install, or a
 port management tool. Maybe you refer to how to involve
 graphical port management abstractors?


I would prefer to stick with command-line tools, but in a controlled
environment that won't fail.  Maybe that is not possible when tracking
stable (ironically).  For example, I've spent most of the last 72
hours trying to install firefox, flash (via linux_base-10), and
virtualbox-ose-additons in to a stable environment, and only firefox
is working.  About once a year for the last 6 years I try to setup a
FreeBSD desktop, and eventually get frustrated and go back to linux.


  - uses a lightweight VM, icewm or openbox ?

 Or WindowMaker? :-)



  - optionally uses a heavyweight WM, Gnome3 ?

 Until it stops working. :-)



  - ideally demonstrates best practices

 Also depends on requirements, by users or by setting in
 which the system should be used (e. g. security policies,
 prohibition of standard means of communication and so on).



  - looks good, with nice fonts

 Looks good also depends VERY.



  - optionally supports openGL (desktop users would need that)

 Would they? :-)

 I know that average desktop users seem to get addicted
 to certain bling, but some lines above, you mentioned
 that laptops are slow, and the resources required for
 eye candy... are they included here?


If Virtualbox supports hardware-accelerated graphics on 64-bit FreeBSD
guests, then yes.


  - optionally includes tips for upgrading to 8.3+

 Also the standard means apply here.


Yes, but it would potentially be less error-prone with known hardware
devices being emulated.


 Here

Re: Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com wrote:
   # portsnap fetch update
   # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster
   # make install
   # portmaster --check-depends
   # portmaster www/firefox

 Thanks!, that worked, though I had to do a 'rehash' after the 'make install'.

 There is work going on to change this situation -- search the list
 archives for discussion of pkgNG and PC-PSD's .pci format if you're
 interested. In the mean time, many people find that installing
 everything from source via the ports is the least frustrating method,
 albeit at the cost of spending more time running compilations.

 I started using the approach of installing everything from ports, but
 it takes a long time to build things like xorg and firefox. Even
 though I don't like PC-BSD using KDE, their PBI system seems to
 circumvent these problems.  I will read up on pkgNG, too.  Thanks!

I got flash working with Firefox 4, there was apparently a bad
checksum in the ports tree.  I had to add a make makesum command.
My installation steps for Flash ended up being:

# kldload linux
# cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10
# make install clean
# echo 'linux_enable=YES'  /etc/rc.conf
# echo 'linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0'  /etc/fstab
# mount -a
# cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper
# make install clean
# cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
# make makesum
# make install clean

Now I can integrate this into my install script.

thanks!
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Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages

2011-05-21 Thread Xn Nooby

I'm a struggling nooby.  I am trying to install firefox 4 on a fresh
8.2 installation. I want to the core system to track the errata
branch, and get binary packages from 8-stable (which has firefox 4).


I installed FreeBSD 8.2 release.

# freebsd-update fetch install

rebooted

# portsnap fetch extract

use BASH shell

# export 
PACKAGESITE=ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/Latest/;

installed x11 and icewm

# pkg_add -r firefox

get perl conflict between 5.10 and 5.12

# pkg_add -fr firefox

firefox installs but I get firefox3 instead of firefox 4.0

# pkg_info| grep firefox

shows firefox-3.6.13,1

trying to use source

# cd /usr/ports/www/firefox
# make install clean

get errors about firefox 4.0.1 needing nspr=4.8.7

# pkg_add -r nspr

says nspr-4.8.6 or older is already installed
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Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools

2011-05-20 Thread Xn Nooby

 Also try to go with portsnap for ports IMHO it's the path of least
 resistance ;-)

I will try portsnap, and read about the pkgdb database.  If all these
tools ultimately resolve to pkgdb, I will try to learn about that.

I have tried PC-BSD, and look forward to version 9.0.  I really don't
like KDE, though.  I hear some rumblings about a Gnome developer
wanting to drop BSD support, so maybe I better start liking KDE.
PC-BSD seems to have done a great job reproducing the way Mac's
install software, by using self-contained bundles (PBI's). And next
version of PBI is supposed to not need a GUI. I'm sure I will be
trying the next version PC-BSD. Hopefully to be released soon.

thanks!
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Over-whelmed by ports and package tools

2011-05-19 Thread Xn Nooby

It is hard for me to tell what tools I should be using to work with
ports and packages.  I was trying to set up a 64bit 8.2 machine as a
desktop environment, with Firefox 4 and Flash installed.  It looked
like I was going to need to track the 8.x stable branch in order to
get a Firefox package, and I was having some problems pinning down
which version of Flash I should use (they have a new version since 8l2
was released).  I decided to stop and just make sure I understood how
I was supposed to be working with ports and packages.

I've have been reading about cvsup, freebsd-update, portsnap,
portupgrade, and portmaster.  In general, I think I would like to use
packages when possible, since I expect to be doing some installs on
low-powered machines (my old laptops).  I don't want to build
everything from the ports tree (unless I have to).  I know that I can
set the environment variable PACKAGESITE in order to get packages from
8.x instead of 8.2, and the packages would at worst be a month old.  I
have also read portupgrade can be used to upgrade ports (obvious
enough).

What I have not really seen yet, is an explanation of when you might
want to use the different tools.  I have read some tools don't need
certain other things installed, but I don't know why that is
significant.  Perhaps some of the tools are only used in rare
situations, and I don't need to consider using them. I also don't know
how mutually exclusive they are.

I am working on a script to automatically load up all the software I
want on my desktop, below are some of the sub-routines that show what
I am trying to do. I think the script worked when 8.2 was new, but
things seemed to have changed and it no longer works so well. I want
to make it change-proof.

loadPorts() {
echo loadPorts...
freebsd-update fetch install
portsnap fetch extract
}

loadFF() {
echo loadFF...
pkg_add -r firefox
echo 'sem_load=YES'  /boot/loader.conf
}


loadApps() {
echo loadApps...
apps=bash unzip p7zip vlc xmms subversion mplayer openbox icewm
cmdwatch xfe miro filezilla
for x in $apps
do
pkg_add -r $x
done
}

loadFonts() {
echo loadFonts...
cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/webfonts
make install clean
pkg_add -r dejavu
cd
sed '
/Section Module/ a\
Load freetype\
Load type1
' /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
sed '
/Section Files/ a\
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/\
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/
' /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
fc-cache -f -v
}


loadFlash() {
echo loadFlash...
kldload linux
pkg_add -r linux_base-f10
echo 'linux_enable=YES'  /etc/rc.conf
echo 'linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0'  /etc/fstab
mount -a
pkg_add -r nspluginwrapper
cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.1r53
scp me@192.168.200.2:install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
/usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.1r53/
make install clean
cd
mkdir /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins
ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
# read -p pausing
rehash
}
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Can FreeBSD be made to be as polished a desktop as Linux Mint?

2011-02-20 Thread Xn Nooby

I was wondering if there were any technical reasons why a FreeBSD
desktop could not be hand-tweaked to be as nice as a Linux Mint 10
desktop.  I only rarely use Linux Mint 10, but it's desktop and
webrowsing seem to be about perfect (albeit green).  The Gnome UI is
very smooth to interact with, and website fonts in Firefox look better
than on Windows.  When I install gnome2 and firefox via pkg_add,
everything works, but it is not as glassy smooth as LM10.  I think the
PC-BSD people are working on a Gnome-version, so I could wait and see
what they put together. I was just curious if there was any technical
reason why this could be done. I assume if they both use xorg, then it
is possible.
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Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-18 Thread Xn Nooby

Thanks for the replies, good to know I'm not missing any issues.


On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote:
 On Fri 18 Feb 2011 at 08:13:19 PST MFV wrote:

 Hello,

 I've been downloading BSD Mag since it first came out and your list is
 identical to mine.

 Same here.


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Re: What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?

2011-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby

Wow, that article is just what I was looking for!  I will check out
your other articles too.  Thanks!


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Xn Nooby wrote:

 I downloaded the alternative testing ubuntu-based version of
 Clonezilla, and it appeared to backup my FreeBSD machine. It
 identified my filesystem as UFS.  I will wipe the drive and try a
 restore later tonight.   It said it was backing up 30GB of files,
 which seemed odd for a fresh install.  The backup was 7.5GB.   There
 is a lot of good info in this thread, so I will be experimenting with
 the various methods discussed. It sounds like I really need to learn
 about dump/restore.

 Pardon if I've mentioned this already, but I have an article called Backup
 Options For FreeBSD at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html

 It covers variations of dump/restore, and also mentions Clonezilla and dd
 and their advantages and disadvantages.  Feedback welcome.

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BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby

Is there a place where I can download all the BSD Magazine PDF back
issues?  I have got a lot of them from the BSD Magazine site, and a
few other sites, but I think I am missing some. For example, I only
have 2 from 2008, and 4 from 2009.  I was able to get most of them
from http://bsdmag.org

I renamed them to sort properly, the ones I have are:

BSD_2008_01.pdf
BSD_2008_02.pdf

BSD_2009_01.pdf
BSD_2009_02.pdf
BSD_2009_03.pdf
BSD_2009_04.pdf

BSD_2010_01.pdf
BSD_2010_02.pdf
BSD_2010_03.pdf
BSD_2010_04.pdf
BSD_2010_05.pdf
BSD_2010_06.pdf
BSD_2010_07.pdf
BSD_2010_08.pdf
BSD_2010_09.pdf
BSD_2010_10.pdf
BSD_2010_11.pdf

BSD_2011_01.pdf
BSD_2011_02.pdf

I would like to get the others, if there are any, and it is legal. Or
perhaps I have all the ones available.
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Re: What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?

2011-02-16 Thread Xn Nooby

I downloaded the alternative testing ubuntu-based version of
Clonezilla, and it appeared to backup my FreeBSD machine. It
identified my filesystem as UFS.  I will wipe the drive and try a
restore later tonight.   It said it was backing up 30GB of files,
which seemed odd for a fresh install.  The backup was 7.5GB.   There
is a lot of good info in this thread, so I will be experimenting with
the various methods discussed. It sounds like I really need to learn
about dump/restore.



On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:

 I tried a version of Clonezilla that understood ufs and it was really fast
 copying a slice: It did not understand disklabels and copied only the a
 partition pretending that it did the entire slice.

 Did you try to copy a slice with multiple partitions?

 Since my T42 is handy, I'm testing the latest clonezilla-1.2.7-11-i686 image
 on it, PXE-booted.  It shows this sliced/partitioned disk as

 Clonezilla            FreeBSD
 --            ---
 sda  (60.0GB...
 sda1 (60.0GB_ufs...   /
 sda5 (ufs...          /
 sda6 ((In_HTS...      swap
 sda7 (ufs...          /var
 sda8 (ufs...          /tmp
 sda9 (ufs...          /usr

 savedisk will back up all of these from sda1 onwards, so there will be two
 copies of / (sda1 and sda5).  Same size but different md5s, no idea what's
 going on there.

 In the saveparts menu, the appropriate partitions can be picked by just
 choosing all the ones showing ufs in the first part of the description, but
 Clonezilla will only restore them to existing partitions.  restoredisk
 doesn't recognize a backup directory created with saveparts.

 Using a VirtualBox system with a 62G disk, Clonezilla restored all the
 partitions and the boot block.  The restored system boots and seems fine.
  It really ought to be verified with mtree checksums or something similar.

 There are Clonezilla mailing lists, and anyone who wants to use it with
 FreeBSD or other UFS filesystems should join.  (I don't generally use
 Clonezilla for FreeBSD, and my project list is already too long, so I
 haven't, but still...)

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delay in boot: ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0

2011-02-14 Thread Xn Nooby

I get about a 30 second delay during boot for each hard-drive
connected to my PC.  I'm running FreeBSD 8.1 AMD64 on an ASUS
Sabertooth X58 motherboard.

atapci0: [ITHREAD]
ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0

Is there something I can define or disable to make these timeouts go faster?

These lines get the delay:

ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
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Re: delay in boot: ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0

2011-02-14 Thread Xn Nooby

Hi Alex,

I will double-check my BIOS, I thought I had unused ports disabled,
but I might have missed some (it's a complex motherboard!).  I
probably wont recompile my kernel, because I think that would prohibit
me from using the freebsd-update program.  I can always just wait, it
was a bigger problem when I had 6 drives in it.  It almost seems to be
pausing when it finds a drive, I have a CDROM and one HD in it now.


On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Mon Feb 14 11, Xn Nooby wrote:
 I get about a 30 second delay during boot for each hard-drive
 connected to my PC.  I'm running FreeBSD 8.1 AMD64 on an ASUS
 Sabertooth X58 motherboard.

 atapci0: [ITHREAD]
 ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
 ata2: [ITHREAD]
 ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0

 Is there something I can define or disable to make these timeouts go faster?

 These lines get the delay:

 ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
 ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0

 A)
 you can rebuild your kernel with

 options        ATA_REQUEST_TIMEOUT=3

 to reduce the timeout to 3 seconds. that should be enough for new
 hdds/controllers.


 B)
 or you could try switching from ATA(4) to CAM(4) via the ATA_CAM kernel option
 (see ATA(4) for an explanation). since you're running pretty new hardware and
 a recent fbsd version you would defenately benefit from switching to CAM(4). 
 it
 has much better ahci support e.g.

 simply add

 options ATA_CAM

 to your kernel conf and your good to go after building installing the new
 kernel.

 also the probelm might be in your BIOS. be sure to deactivate all ATA channels
 which don't have a device connected to them. otherwise fbsd will look for one
 until the timeout gets hit (both in ATA(4) and CAM(4)). in fact you might want
 to check the bios before trying any of the steps A) or B), because this very
 likely seems to be the problem in your case.

 cheers.
 alex

 --
 a13x

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What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?

2011-02-14 Thread Xn Nooby

On Linux I use clonezilla, which understands the EXT3 filesystem, and
it can skip unused space (I'm using about 3GB out of 1TB).

On FreeBSD, I have to fill the 1TB drive with zero-filled files, then
delete them, on each partiton, since CloneZilla uses DD+gzip on the
entire drive.

I like to make image copies of new systems, so I can revert back to my
starting point in case I break it, but CloneZilla is taking 9 hours to
image the drive.  I can re-install a lot faster than that.

I normally store my image copies on a Samba share on another system,
they are stored as files.  I am not copying to another raw drive.

Is there an image-copy backup program that understands the UFS
file-system? Or perhaps there is a better solution on FreeBSD?
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Re: Where to post FreeBSD tutorials?

2010-12-31 Thread Xn Nooby

Thanks, the Wiki and Howto page are just what I was looking for!  I
had only used the mailing lists so far.
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Why are YT vids on FreeBSD all about hacking MSN? (solved)

2010-12-30 Thread Xn Nooby

I wanted to watch some videos about FreeBSD, so I went to Youtube and
searched on FreeBSD.  Then I sorted by Date Uploaded, and almost
all the videos uploaded recently are about hacking MSN.  I went to the
people's profiles, and they had no videos available.  I am guessing
that people are creating fake YT accounts to post a video that then
gets removed by YT.  It makes it impossible to find recent YT videos
about FreeBSD.

I just wondering if anyone else noticed this.

If you do the basic YT search sorted on Relevance, you get really
old FreeBSD videos.


SOLVED:  I just noticed you can filter out msn from your results by
searching for freebsd -msn.
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Where to post FreeBSD tutorials?

2010-12-30 Thread Xn Nooby

If I write a document about how to do something with FreeBSD, is there
a good place to post it, or a link to it?

Something like how to edit a video in FreeBSD, not official documentation.

I usually have to google things to find them, and often find the
answer on stackoverflow or howtoforge.  Sometimes it hard to find
things in google, and sometimes I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
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Do I need a xorg.conf to use webfonts?

2010-12-26 Thread Xn Nooby

I installed FreeBSD 8.1, and the xorg package automatically detected
my video-card and monitor.  I did not have to create an xorg.conf
file.

If I want to webpages to look better in Firefox, I think I need to
install the webfonts package.  Section 5.5.2 of the Handbook seems
to say I need to modify my xorg.conf to use True Type fonts.

Do I need to create an xorg.conf to modify, or does the X server
automatically use new TTF fonts?
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Does WINE work on FreeBSD amd64 ?

2010-12-26 Thread Xn Nooby

The wiki page seems to say that wine is a 32-bit port, and 32-bit
ports do not work well on amd64.  This would imply that 32-bit Windows
programs would not run on 32-bit wine on a FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 system.
Is this a correct interpretation?

Does anyone know if there are any plans to get 32 or 64 bit windows
programs running under wine on FreeBSD amd64?

http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine
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Can FreeBSD utilize VT/HVM ?

2010-12-25 Thread Xn Nooby

I have a new computer that has VT (Virtualization Technology), so I am
able to virtualize other OS's when running Linux and their KVM.  Does
FreeBSD have a method of using VT to virtualize other OS's?  Jails are
really cool, especially since they do not need VT - but I was
wondering if there was an advantage to having VT when running FreeBSD.

Or would the VT be more-or -less unused with FreeBSD?

I sometimes experiment with different OS's, that is why I am
interested in virtualizing them.
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Re: Can a home LAN server use a jail as a router?

2010-12-07 Thread Xn Nooby

 I hope this helps you in your investigation(s).

Yes, thank you and the previous poster.  It sounds like my outer box
needs to be the router, and everything else should be a jail. I will
do some more reading up on jails.  Thanks!
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Can a home LAN server use a jail as a router?

2010-12-05 Thread Xn Nooby

Hello.  Is it possible to use FreeBSD to create three jails on one
box, so that one jail can be a router to the internet, and the other
two can be webservers?  I wanted to create an environment where if one
webserver got compromised, the other webserver would be unaffected. I
have old hardware, so I do not have hardware VT in the chip. I thought
I previously read that a jail could only have 1 NIC, but I have not
been able to confirm that. That would spoil my router plan, if true.

I'm more familiar with Linux than FreeBSD, but Linux seems to be
moving from Xen towards KVM (which requires VT).  I could use Xen,
probably on Debian if I did. Xen seems to require a specially built
Linux kernel on Debian, and I'm not sure I like that.

I'd also like to set up a personal samba file-server, but I'm deathly
afraid the machine would get hacked while wired to the net. So I would
also like to make a jail to be a samba server.

All these jails are predicated on one of them being able to act as a
router between the internet and my home LAN. I want some jails to
talk the internet (via the router jail), and some jails to only be
available in my house.
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Re: SATA DVD Drive Install Problem

2008-01-10 Thread Xn Nooby

I've been able to get 6.3-R3 and 7.0-RC1 to install from SATA DVD, but
not any previous versions.


On Jan 9, 2008 6:50 PM, Derrick Ryalls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 9, 2008 3:08 PM, Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is anyone successful in installing FreeBSD from a SATA DVD Drive?
 

 Did it last month with a machine that has only SATA (DVD and
 SATA-RAID), so it is possible at least on 7.0.


  I am having trouble as it boots from the CD of 6.3 RC2 but at the
  beginning of the install it fails.  The CD I then tried in another
  computer and it installs fine.  I was wondering if it was the SATA DVD
  drive or the motherboard.
 
  Thanks
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Two minute pause at acpi.ko message on old HP laptop with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-06 Thread Xn Nooby

I have an old zv5445us HP Pavillion laptop, essentially the zv5000
model, which pauses at the /boot/kernel/acpi.ko message during boot.
It hangs there, with a non-spinning ASCII character, for about 2
minutes - then it boots.  I tried entering the following commands in
to the loader.conf to no avail:

   set hint.atkbd.0.disabled=1
   set hint.acpi.0.disabled=1

I'm currently using FreeBSD 7.0-RC1, but it has the same behavior with
FreeBSD 6.3-RC2.

The machine seems to work okay after that, though I am having other
problems with the screen going blank when I try to configure X.  For
now, I was just trying to eliminate the 2 minute pause on acpi.ko.

Any suggestions?
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Re: Finally, Flash seems to be working for Me :)

2008-01-03 Thread Xn Nooby

Why not just use gnash to watch youtube videos?  It works fine for me,
with my user account.

However, if I use Firefox+gnash as root, it makes my system unstable,
I lose /dev/null, and the system gets weird.  I guess gnash will kill
your system if you run it as root.




On Jan 3, 2008 8:23 PM, Rudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I forgot to mention, my post is for FreeBSD 7... here is my uname:
 FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #2: Thu Jan  3 15:59:14 PST 2008



 Rudy
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Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

I am having trouble getting X to use a screen resolution that is less
than the maximum.  When I edit my xorg.conf to add a DefaultDepth and
a Mode of 1024x768, it still comes up at 1280x1024.  I did not
create any modeline entries yet, since I'm not sure how to do that.
My GUI (icewm) works, but browsing the web creates enormous eye-strain
from the high-resolution letters.

My hardware is a Dell Inspiron 530 Desktop with an nVidia Card. It
comes with SATA CD's, so I have to install with FreeBSD 7-RC1.

I started by running xorg -configure, and used the xorg.conf that it
generated.  I looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and it had many entries
from probing my hardware.  It appears there is some kind of dynamic
configuration going on, but I know its using the xorg.conf, because it
got an error when I changed the adapter entry from nv to vga.

I actually had a similar problem on Ubuntu, and they had some
xorg-reconfigure program that would let you use less than maximum
values.  I was wondering if FreeBSD had something similar.

The DefaultDepth 24 and Modes 1024x786 entries are from the
online FreeBSD Handbook, I believe I followed the Handbook
instructions properly.

Am I missing something obvious?  From using Linux, I was expecting the
Modes values to work.
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

On Jan 1, 2008 10:11 AM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Xn == Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Xn I am having trouble getting X to use a screen resolution that is less
Xn than the maximum. When I edit my xorg.conf to add a DefaultDepth and
Xn a Mode of 1024x768, it still comes up at 1280x1024. I did not
Xn create any modeline entries yet, since I'm not sure how to do that.
Xn My GUI (icewm) works, but browsing the web creates enormous eye-strain
Xn from the high-resolution letters.

Xn My hardware is a Dell Inspiron 530 Desktop with an nVidia Card. It
Xn comes with SATA CD's, so I have to install with FreeBSD 7-RC1.

Xn I started by running xorg -configure, and used the xorg.conf that it
Xn generated. I looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and it had many entries
Xn from probing my hardware. It appears there is some kind of dynamic
Xn configuration going on, but I know its using the xorg.conf, because it
Xn got an error when I changed the adapter entry from nv to vga.

Xn I actually had a similar problem on Ubuntu, and they had some
Xn xorg-reconfigure program that would let you use less than maximum
Xn values. I was wondering if FreeBSD had something similar.

Xn The DefaultDepth 24 and Modes 1024x786 entries are from the
Xn online FreeBSD Handbook, I believe I followed the Handbook
Xn instructions properly.

Xn Am I missing something obvious? From using Linux, I was expecting the
Xn Modes values to work.

TargetRefresh, and PreferredMode options, available in recent Xorg
releases (probably since 7.2), you'll require. I'm using
TargetRefresh (75 Hz) on my Intel 945G graphics to set my monitor to
display 1440x900 rather than 1280x1024. And this same configuration is
working fine for both FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 (amd64), and Ubuntu 7.10 (amd64).

HTH
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When I create a PreferredMode value, the X-Server hangs when I run
startx. I cannot end X with ctrl-alt-backspace, but I can reboot with
ctrl-alt-del. I am using xorg 7.3 (installed via 'pkg_add -r xorg'),
and this was apparently a known bug. I'm not sure if it is supposed
to be fixed in now, the bug was from September:

http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12476

I also tried TargetRefresh with values of 60 and 75, but it did not
seem to do anything. When you use TargetRefresh, is that with the
Horizontal and Vertical refresh values - or does it replace them?
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

Here are the values I am experimenting with:

The Monitor Section:

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
#   Option PreferredMode 1024x768
#   HorizSync 24-80
#   VertRefresh 56-75
#   Option TargetRefresh 60
EndSection



A snippet from the Screen Section:


SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1024x768
EndSubSection
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

 To make things obvious you will have to take a look at your xorg.conf file
 Please do change  dir to its parent folder (cd /etx/X11/) and run
 cat xorg.conf | tr -s \n | grep -v #
 that should make your xorg.conf look simple and clear.

Here is mine, which still wont go in to 1024x768 mode:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection
Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/local/share/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/
EndSection
Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  dbe
Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  xtrap
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection
Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync 24.0 - 80.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
Option TargetRefresh 60
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  nv
VendorName  nVidia Corporation
BoardName   GeForce 8300 GS
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1024x768 800x600
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

I was able to temporarily change the resolution using the xrandr -s
1024x768 command - but xvidtune -show still displayed a modeline
that begins with 1280x1024.  I copied that modeline to my xorg.conf,
and manually changed the resolution, but I did not fool it.  It was
great to see the screen at 1024x768, so I know it can do it.

I added a 1280x1024 mode to my xorg.conf display list, and it not
change the behavior.

I was able to get 1280x960 by increasing the lower range for
VertRefresh to 70, and was able to get 800x600 by increasing it to 75.
I then played around with various other VertRefresh values, but had no
luck.  I also tried the Horizontal values, but the did not help.  I'm
using a flat-panel screen, so I don't think I can hurt it. I hope!

xrandr worked, though my IceWM menubar fell off my screen. xvidtune
could probaly fix that, if I could get the ModeLine command to have an
effect.


On Jan 1, 2008 12:09 PM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Xn == Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  To make things obvious you will have to take a look at your xorg.conf 
 file
  Please do change  dir to its parent folder (cd /etx/X11/) and run
  cat xorg.conf | tr -s \n | grep -v #
  that should make your xorg.conf look simple and clear.

 Xn Here is mine, which still wont go in to 1024x768 mode:

 You've 3 options:

 Xn SubSection Display
 Xn Viewport   0 0
 Xn Depth 24
 Xn Modes 1024x768 800x600


 1. How about appending 1280x1024 to the above line. AFAIK, these modes
 are listed in the order of preference. See, if it works.

 2. Another thing you can try, is to change the VertRefresh, and
 HorizRefresh limits of your monitor, change them in such a way, so
 that X server won't be able to display 1280x1024 mode, resulting in
 switch to 1024x768 mode. Since 1280x1024 requires a lower refresh rate
 as compared to 1024x768, so .e.g. if 1280x1024 works on 60 Hz
 (vertical refresh rate), and 1024x768 is available in 60 Hz, 75 Hz, 85
 Hz, then you can increase lower limit of VertRefresh, to something
 greater than 60.

 3. Another thing you can try is mode setting, switch to 1024x768 using
 xrandr. And then use xvidtune -show to generate modeline,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $  xrandr -s 1024x768

 Now, in 1024x768 mode, enter this:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ xvidtune -show
 1024x768136.75   1024 1536 1688 1936768  903  909  942 -hsync +vsync

 NOTE: Don't use above modeline, thats from 1440x900 resolution, except
 that I changed 1440, 900 to 1024, 768 respectively :) .

 Now copy above modeline, and add to the Monitor section of your
 xorg.conf as show below:

 ModeLine1024x768 136.75 1024 1536 1688 1936 768  903  909  942 -hsync 
 +vsync


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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

 Hmm..., this is strange. BtW, after adding modeline, you need to
 restart Xorg. Anyways to get modeline for 1024x768 you can try
 switching to 'vesa' driver temporarily, extract modeline for 1024x768
 From there, and then enter that modeline in xorg.conf. I tried this
 method when I'm having problem setting my old 15 LG Studioworks 452V
 to display 1024x768 without getting clipped.

Using the vesa driver worked - I am able to get 1024x768, though the
fonts are a little weird.  I tried to use the modeline from the vesa
driver with nv, but it didn't work.  If the nv driver is part of the
problem, I will try the native nVidia driver and see how that works.
I've been shutting down and restarting X everytime I try something.  I
made a xorg.conf with the vesa selected by running xorgconfig. Ill try
the native driver and see what happens.

thanks for all the help so far!
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

Well, after 15 hours of experimenting, I have 1024x768 working!
Getting PreferredMode to work was the main thing, I think.  It was
literally on my last try, before I reinstalled Ubuntu, that I got it
to work, lol.  Maybe these note will be of value to another nooby.

thanks again!

There 3 things that I needed:
  1) A modeline from the Modeline Calculator website
  2) To use the RefreshRate in the PreferredMode option
  3) To use the RefreshRate in the Modes line

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
Modeline [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64.56 1024 1056 1296 1328 768 783 791 807
Option PreferredMode [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EndSection


DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EndSubSection




On Jan 1, 2008 3:23 PM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Xn == Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Xn Using the vesa driver worked - I am able to get 1024x768, though the
 Xn fonts are a little weird.  I tried to use the modeline from the vesa
 Xn driver with nv, but it didn't work.  If the nv driver is part of the
 Xn problem, I will try the native nVidia driver and see how that works.
 Xn I've been shutting down and restarting X everytime I try something.  I
 Xn made a xorg.conf with the vesa selected by running xorgconfig. Ill try
 Xn the native driver and see what happens.

 Following is an excerpt from my xorg.conf with ModeLine, see if you've
 entered ModeLine properly.

 --
 Section Monitor
 Identifier   Monitor0
 ModelNameLCD Panel 1440x900
 HorizSync50.0 - 75.0
 VertRefresh  60.0 - 85.0
 Option  dpms
 ModeLine[EMAIL PROTECTED]136.75   1440 1536 1688 1936
 900  903  909  942 -hsync +vsync
 DisplaySize 408.94 254.0
 Option  TargetRefresh 75.0
 EndSection

 Section Device
 Identifier  Videocard0
 Driver  intel
 EndSection

 Section Screen
 Identifier Screen0
 Device Videocard0
 MonitorMonitor0
 DefaultDepth 24
 SubSection Display
 Viewport   0 0
 Depth 24
 Modes[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024x768 800x600 640x480 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 EndSubSection
 EndSection
 -


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Re: How do I make 6.0-RELEASE see cdrom in Virtual PC 7 (OS X)?

2006-03-21 Thread Xn Nooby

I posted about this a few months ago, and emailed the guy at Microsoft who
has the blog about VPC7.  I never got anywhere, and eventually gave up. His
blogchart says FreeBSD works with VPC7, which seemed wrong to me.



On 3/20/06, Rocco Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The good news is that FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE ISOs and floppy images boot
 under Virtual PC 7.0.2 for OS X.  Networking works, and I can install
 the rest of the system from FTP.

 The bad news is that it doesn't see the cdrom once it has booted, so
 it can't install anything from CD.  I already downloaded the ISOs, so
 I'd prefer to just grab the files from them.  As a compromise, I'll
 probably set up an ftpd on my LAN, but I'd really like to get the
 cdrom working.

 Does anyone have notes to make this work?  Kernel boot messages are
 included for the curious.

 Thanks.

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 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,
 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: The Regents of the University of
 California. All rights reserved.
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  3
 09:36:13 UTC 2005
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/
 GENERIC
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz
 quality 0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (1050.43-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: Origin = Virtual CPU   Id = 0x684
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: real memory  = 268435456 (256 MB)
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: avail memory = 253222912 (241 MB)
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: npx0: [FAST]
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: npx0: math processor on motherboard
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: cpu0 on motherboard
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pcib0: Intel 82443BX host to PCI bridge
 (AGP disabled) pcibus 0 on motherboard
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on
 pci0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: isa0: ISA bus on isab0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: atapci0: Intel PIIX4 UDMA33 controller
 port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1
 on pci0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pci0: old, non-VGA display device at
 device 7.2 (no driver attached)
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pci0: bridge at device 7.3 (no driver
 attached)
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pci0: display, VGA at device 8.0 (no
 driver attached)
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller
 irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: usb0: OHCI version 1.0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: usb0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on
 ohci0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: uhub0: (0x2955) OHCI root hub, class 9/0,
 rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: uhub0: 15 ports with 15 removable, self
 powered
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: de0: Digital 21041 Ethernet port
 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfebff000-0xfebf irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: de0: Ethernet address: 00:03:ff:7e:ac:35
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem
 0xc-0xc9fff on isa0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at
 port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f
 irq 7 on isa0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in
 COMPATIBLE mode
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10
 on isa0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sio0: type 16550A
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sio1: type 16550A
 Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: vga0:

Re: Is there a stable ports tree?

2006-03-16 Thread Xn Nooby

I like this idea.  It's not fun when you try to update your system, then
have to spend time fixing things.


On 3/15/06, Jason C. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kris Kennaway wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:24:08PM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
  Is there a stable ports tree?
 
  No.

 However you can sup the ports tree for a specific release.  I run ports
 using tag=RELEASE_6_0_0.  The reason I do this is that I find it to be
 much less work.

 I am a much more conservative user than many.  I really hate chasing
 down down upgrade dependencies even with the the very nice ports tools
 we have today.

 If you really wanted a particular port to be updgraded, you can fetch
 just that one port and build it.  This would give you a manually
 controlled psuedo-stable.  It would be more work though.

 Later,
 Jason C. Wells

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Is there a stable ports tree?

2006-03-05 Thread Xn Nooby

Is there a stable ports tree?

I think I read somewhere that RELEASE/STABLE/SECURITY/CURRENT is for the
core OS, and that the ports tree is always CURRENT.  Is this true?

I would like to be able to update my ports with the best chance of not
hitting any snags, so I was curious.

thx!
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can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13

I fixed most of the errors from my upgrade from 6.1 p#1 to 6.1 p#2, and in
the process apparently upgraded to 6.1 p#3.  I am still getting a libtool
error.

Earlier, I did a make deinstall clean on all ports that were using
libtool, and after removing about 10, I thought I had it fixed.  It doesn't
seem I am able to remove XMMS, though it appears to deinstall successfully
when I run the command.  Portupgrade still fails.  I'm not really sure what
it going on at this point.  I tried to do a less /usr/src/UPDATING, but
now it doesn't show the entry that was in there last night.  An entry for
2/23 about libtool being moved, and there not being any easy fix.

Here is my error:

-
az# portversion -l 
az# portupgrade -arR
cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13
** Package 'libtool' has been removed from ports tree.
** Port directory not found: devel/libtool13
** Detected a package name change: xmms (multimedia/xmms) - 'xmms-esound'
(multimedia/xmms)
** No need to upgrade 'xmms-1.2.10_4' (= xmms-esound-1.2.10_4). (specify -f
to force)
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
!  (libtool-1.3.5_2)(port directory error)
---  Packages processed: 0 done, 174 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
az#
-



Here is the first entry in UPDATING:

-
Items affecting the ports and packages system can be found in
/usr/ports/UPDATING.  Please read that file before running
portupgrade.

20060211:
An IPv6 support of ipfw was enabled by default.  If you don't
want to filter an IPv6 by ipfw, please add following line into
your ipfw rule:
-

any suggestions?
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Re: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13

 That port no longer exists. You can delete it and that is it.


I did a pkg_delete on the libtool package, and that seemed to work.  I was
able to re-install most of the packages that I had to remove when fixing
libtool, for example xine abd vlc.  I am having a problem with rox-filer
though, I have tried to deinstall and reinstall a couple of times. I
thought doing a make install would pull in any needed dependencies, so I
assume this is related to my earlier problems.

Here is the error I get when I do:

  cd /usr/src/x11-fm/rox-filer
  make install clean



 --===  Configuring for libbonobo-2.10.1_3
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g
wheel
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... no
checking for nawk... nawk
checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is
required for intltool
===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh;, which will diagnose the
problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot
solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and attach (a)
/usr/ports/devel/libbonobo/work/libbonobo-2.10.1/config.log, (b) the
output
of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it
might
be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your
system
(i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website,
copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1)
with
the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are
usually discarded by the mailing list software.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libbonobo.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fm/rox-filer.
az# ---

##
##

Here is my /var/db/pkg list that the error suggested I do:

az# ls /var/db/pkg
ImageMagick-6.2.5.5_2   fribidi-0.10.4_2
kqemu-kmod-0.7.2_1  libogg-1.1.3,3
open-motif-2.2.3_2  vcdimager-0.7.23_1
ORBit2-2.12.5_2 gamin-0.1.7_2  
lame-3.96.1
libtool-1.5.22_2openslp-1.2.1_2 vlc-0.8.4a_2
aalib-1.4.r5_2  gconf2-2.12.1_1
lcms-1.14_1,1
libvorbis-1.1.2,3   p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2
win32-codecs-3.1.0.p7_1,1
aspell-0.60.4_3 gettext-0.14.5_2
libIDL-0.8.6_2  libwmf-0.2.8.4
p5-gettext-1.05_1   wine-0.9.8,1
atk-1.10.3_1ghostscript-gnu-7.07_14
libXft-2.1.7_1  libxine-1.1.1_2
pango-1.10.3_1  wv-1.0.0_5
autoconf-2.13.000227_5  glib-1.2.10_12
liba52-0.7.4_1  libxml2-2.6.23_1   
pcre-6.6_1
wxgtk2-2.6.2_3
autoconf-2.59_2 glib-2.8.6_1
libart_lgpl2-2.3.17_1   libxslt-1.1.15_1   
perl-5.8.8
wxgtk2-common-2.6.2_2
automake-1.4.6_2gmake-3.80_2
libaudiofile-0.2.6  linc-1.0.3_5
pkgconfig-0.20  xine-0.99.4_3
bash-3.1.10 gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1_2
libcddb-1.2.1_1 linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_7
pkgdb.db
xmlcatmgr-2.2
bison-1.75_2,1  gnomehier-2.0_7
libcdio-0.76_1  linux-americasarmy-2.5.0   
png-1.2.8_3
xmms-esound-1.2.10_4
bitstream-vera-1.10_2   gnomemimedata-2.4.2
libdrm-2.0_1
linux-enemyterritory-2.60_1 popt-1.7_1
xorg-clients-6.9.0_1
cairo-1.0.2_2   gnu-autoconf-2.59  
libdts-0.0.2
linux-expat-1.95.7  portupgrade-2.0.1_1,1
xorg-documents-6.9.0
cdparanoia-3.9.8_8  gnu-automake-1.9.6
libdvbpsi-0.1.5_1   linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_3 
python-2.4.2
xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1
compat5x-i386-5.4.0.8_5 gnu-libtool-1.5.20
libdvdcss-1.2.9_2   linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_2   
qemu-0.8.0_3
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1
cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_2   gqview-2.0.1_1
libdvdnav-0.1.10_1  linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 
rpm-3.0.6_13
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1
desktop-file-utils-0.10_4   gsfonts-8.11_2
libdvdread-0.9.4_1  linux_base-8-8.0_14
ruby-1.8.4_4,1
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1
djbfft-0.76_2   gstreamer-0.8.11_2
libebml-0.7.6   linuxpluginwrapper-20051113
ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2   xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1
docbook-sk-4.1.2_3  gstreamer-plugins-0.8.11_2
libfame-0.9.1_2 liveMedia-2006.02.15,1

Re: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13

Have you tried /sysutils/portmanager yet? If not, you could try
 installing it and then running it, as root obviously, as thus:


I'm trying to avoid portsnap and portmanager for now, since I don't really
understand them - and they don't seem to be the official way (yet).  I
actually wish there was just one method that everyone used, instead of 3 (or
more), lol.

thanks!
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Re: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13

I think I got it working now, I had to run the perl fixing script, then I
did a make install clean on rox-filer.  I hope they don't take it out,
since that is the only file-manager I use!  I'm running fluxbox, so I was
surpised by all the gnome-stuff that was complaining.

To FreeBSD's credit, everything I needed to know was in the UPDATING files -
had I been looking at the right one, lol.

I learned a lot about FreeBSD today, thanks for all the help!




On 2/26/06, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 26 February 2006 12:10, Xn Nooby wrote:
   That port no longer exists. You can delete it and that is it.
 
  I did a pkg_delete on the libtool package, and that seemed to work.
   I was able to re-install most of the packages that I had to remove
  when fixing libtool, for example xine abd vlc.  I am having a problem
  with rox-filer though, I have tried to deinstall and reinstall a
  couple of times. I thought doing a make install would pull in any
  needed dependencies, so I assume this is related to my earlier
  problems.
 
  Here is the error I get when I do:
 
cd /usr/src/x11-fm/rox-filer
make install clean
 
   --===  Configuring for
   libbonobo-2.10.1_3
 
  checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root
  -g wheel
  checking whether build environment is sane... yes
  checking for gawk... no
  checking for mawk... no
  checking for nawk... nawk
  checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes
  checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of
  Makefiles... no checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
  checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module
  is required for intltool

 I think this is your error right here. I have had it before. They
 updated perl recently and you may not have a consistent set of p5-\*
 ports with respect to the new perl. Did you run perl-after-upgrade -f
 after you updated perl?

 FWIW, rox-filer also no longer exists.

 You appear to need www/p5-HTML-Parser but sometimes, the messages can be
 misleading :).

 I think you have a different problem. I looked at  libbonobo-2.10.1_3
 and the dependancies are

 Port:   libbonobo-2.10.1_3
 Path:   /usr/ports/devel/libbonobo
 Info:   A component and compound document system for GNOME2
 Maint:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Index:  devel
 B-deps: ORBit2-2.12.5_2 bison-1.75_2,1 expat-2.0.0_1 gettext-0.14.5_2
 glib-2.8.6_1 gmake-3.80_2 intltool-0.34.2 libIDL-0.8.6_2
 libiconv-1.9.2_2 libxml2-2.6.23_1 m4-1.4.4 p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2
 perl-5.8.8 pkgconfig-0.20 popt-1.7_1

 R-deps: ORBit2-2.12.5_2 gettext-0.14.5_2 glib-2.8.6_1 libIDL-0.8.6_2
 libiconv-1.9.2_2 libxml2-2.6.23_1 perl-5.8.8 pkgconfig-0.20 popt-1.7_1

 The problem is that the current version is p5-HTML-Parser-3.50. I think
 your problem might go away if you add the HTML-Parser. That doesn't fix
 libbonobo but you may be able to continue updating your system.

 Kent

 --
 Kent Stewart
 Richland, WA

 http://www.soyandina.com/ I am Andean project.
 http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html

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ogle-gui needs liba52, but its already there ?

I havent't been able to build ogle-gui.  It complains about 'liba52', which
I believe is already installed.  I deftly checked the UPDATING files, and
did not see any mention about issues with liba52.  I also tried Google to no
avail.  This failed about a week ago, and I was hoping it would be fixed -
or I would figure out my error.  I did a pkg_info to make sure liba52 was
installed, the output is pasted below.  Is anyone else having a problem with
ogle-gui ?

##
##

checking for dvdread/dvd_reader.h... yes
checking for mlib_VideoDCT8x8_S16_S16 in -lmlib... no
checking for a52_free in -la52-devel ... no
checking for a52_init in -la52-devel ... no
configure: error: Need liba52, install a52dec or specify it's location
===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and attach the
/usr/ports/multimedia/ogle/work/ogle-0.9.2/config.log including the output
of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to
provide
an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
/var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ogle.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ogle.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ogle-gui.
az#

##
##

az# pkg_info | grep 52
liba52-0.7.4_1  A free library for decoding ATSC A/52 streams, aka AC-3
liba52-devel-0.7.4.2005112800 A free library for decoding ATSC A/52 streams,
aka AC-3
unzip-5.52_2List, test and extract compressed files in a ZIP archive
xmms-a52dec-1.0_1   A52 (aka AC3) decoder plugin for XMMS
az#
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Re: ogle-gui needs liba52, but its already there ?

Oops. Never mind.

I was running the install on a machine I was shelled in to.

Sorry about that. I'm going to step away from the computer for a while.
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libtool port directory error during portupgrade

2006-02-25 Thread Xn Nooby

I was trying to update my system from FreeBSD 6.1 P#1 to FreeBSD 6.1 P#2,
and after I did a portupgrade -arR, the following text was in the output:

snip
---  Cleaning out obsolete shared libraries
[Updating the pkgdb format:bdb1_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 196 packages
found
(-0 +1) . done]
---  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/wxgtk26' (wxgtk2-2.6.2_3) because a requisite
packa
ge 'wxgtk2-common-2.6.2_2' (x11-toolkits/wxgtk26-common) failed (specify -k
to f
orce)
---  Skipping 'devel/gnomevfs2' (gnomevfs2-2.12.2_1) because a requisite
packag
e 'libbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'x11-fm/rox-filer' (rox-2.4.1_1) because a requisite package
'lib
bonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'multimedia/vlc' (vlc-0.8.4a_2) because a requisite package
'gnom
evfs2-2.12.2_1' (devel/gnomevfs2) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'x11/libgnome' (libgnome-2.12.0.1) because a requisite
package 'l
ibbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'multimedia/libxine' (libxine-1.1.1_2) because a requisite
packag
e 'libbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'multimedia/xine' (xine-0.99.4_3) because a requisite package
'li
bbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/libbonoboui' (libbonoboui-2.10.1_1) because a
requi
site package 'libbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to
force)
---  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/libgnomeui' (libgnomeui-2.12.1) because a
requisite
 package 'libbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'editors/abiword' (abiword-2.4.2) because a requisite package
'li
bbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'editors/abiword-plugins' (abiword-plugins-2.4.2) because a
requi
site package 'abiword-2.4.2' (editors/abiword) failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'devel/anjuta' (anjuta-1.2.4_3) because a requisite package
'libb
onobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
!  (libtool-1.3.5_2)(port directory error)
! textproc/scrollkeeper (scrollkeeper-0.3.14_3,1)   (unknown
build e
rror)
* audio/sdl_mixer (sdl_mixer-1.2.6_1)
* games/race (race-0.5_2)
! devel/libbonobo (libbonobo-2.10.1_2)  (configure error)
! print/libgnomeprint (libgnomeprint-2.12.1)(configure error)
* www/nvu (nvu-1.0_1)
* x11-toolkits/vte (vte-0.11.18)
* security/gnomekeyring (gnomekeyring-0.4.7)
* x11/nvidia-settings (nvidia-settings-1.0_8)
* x11-toolkits/wxgtk26-common (wxgtk2-common-2.6.2_2)
* graphics/gqview (gqview-2.0.1_1)
* misc/gnome-icon-theme (gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1_2)
* devel/libglade2 (libglade2-2.5.1_3)
* graphics/libgnomecanvas (libgnomecanvas-2.12.0)
* x11-toolkits/libgnomeprintui (libgnomeprintui-2.12.1)
* x11-toolkits/wxgtk26 (wxgtk2-2.6.2_3)
* devel/gnomevfs2 (gnomevfs2-2.12.2_1)
* x11-fm/rox-filer (rox-2.4.1_1)
* multimedia/vlc (vlc-0.8.4a_2)
* x11/libgnome (libgnome-2.12.0.1)
* multimedia/libxine (libxine-1.1.1_2)
* multimedia/xine (xine-0.99.4_3)
* x11-toolkits/libbonoboui (libbonoboui-2.10.1_1)
* x11-toolkits/libgnomeui (libgnomeui-2.12.1)
* editors/abiword (abiword-2.4.2)
* editors/abiword-plugins (abiword-plugins-2.4.2)
* devel/anjuta (anjuta-1.2.4_3)
---  Packages processed: 6 done, 162 ignored, 24 skipped and 4 failed


If I force it by using portupgrade -arRf, is there a chance I will break
it?

I know I've asked in the past, but if anyone knows of a foolproof way of
updating FreeBSD, I would love to learn it.

I did a cvsup, make buildworld, make buildkernel, etc, then portsdb
-uU, and finally the portupgrade -arR.   I can post my update procedure
if required (I also posted it 2 weeks ago when I was trying to get portsnap
to work).

Any suggestions on how to build the skipped and failed ports? And any
suggestions on making a foolproof update procedure?
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Re: libtool port directory error during portupgrade

2006-02-25 Thread Xn Nooby

Thanks, that indeed had the answer.  I guess I will reinstall.

On 2/26/06, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 01:55:44AM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
  I was trying to update my system from FreeBSD 6.1 P#1 to FreeBSD 6.1P#2,
  and after I did a portupgrade -arR, the following text was in the
 output:

 Read /usr/ports/UPDATING.

 Kris



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Re: WinSCP mega-slowness

Well, it's good to know I'm not the only one seing this. Right now both
machines are running FreeBSD, since I gave up on waiting for Windows to copy
the files.  The CPU load on Window when sending  1 meg per second is usually
about 30%, while the Unix box is only at 1-2%.  When I have 2 Unix boxes
sending/receiving, I think the load is like 4-5% on both.  I'm building a
bunch of packages right now, so I can't get the exact number.  I could try
the openssh patch later in the week, that would be great if there was a
unix-side fix for this. Of course as I run FreeBSD more, and Windows less,
the problem will go away, too.

thanks!



On 2/20/06, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2/20/06, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For about a year I have noticed that whenever my Windows boxes talk to
 my
  Unix boxes, they communicate at about 1/10 normal speed. I copy lots
 (300GB)
  of large files back and forth between machines as I try different OS's,
 and
  I always see this.
 
  Specifically, if I copy from FreeBSD to FreeBSD, files transfer at 11
 megs
  per second.  Between FreeBSD and Linux, at about 8 megs per
 second.  Between
  FreeBSD and Windows, about 1 megabyte per second.  This is on identical
  hardware.  I've told other people about this, and they usually say I
 must be
  doing something wrong, but recently a friend of mine upgraded a Windows
 box
  to SP2, and now they are getting this same slowness.  When I copy from
  Windows to WIndows (XP or W2k), I get 11 megs per second.
 
  My machines are two P4's with gigabit NICs, and I'm using WinSCP and
  (somtimes) pscp.exe on WIndows to talk to sshd on FreeBSD.  It's always
 a
  shock when I have to copy my data to WIndows, and it takes 30 hours
 instead
  of 3.
 
  Does anyone else ever see this slowness when copying files between
 FreeBSD
  and Windows?
 
  Is Windows maybe capping the transfer speed when it talks to Unix?
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 It is very certainly a known issue. Not that its specifics and
 origins are clearly known, but most of us stumble upon it
 sooner or later. You can usually achieve wire speed only
 between two OSes of a kind. TCP/IP optimizations are
 very important here: if they differ, performance plummets.
 Depends on a multitude of things from quality of NICs to
 weather in your area. I've never been able to get more
 than 70Mbit/s between FreeBSD and Windows XP. I
 always get 90-100Mbit/s between two BSDs or two Win's.

 As for your case, 1MB/s is a serious limit. What can you
 tell us about CPU load? Interrupts? Can you try this:
 http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/

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Re: WinSCP mega-slowness

I can try that.  I'm not sure how to use Samba3, though.  I was trying to
help a friend use Samba, but I was use to Sama2, and Samba3 apparently
recquires a smb.conf file.  You use to be able to just do everything from
the command line, like (I think):

   smbclient //server/share /mnt/pnt -o
username=username,password=password

Apparently that doesnt work anymore, and I havent had time to figure out the
new way.  I think smbclient isn't even part of Samab3 (it could find it
after installing it).



On 2/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well, it's good to know I'm not the only one seing this. Right now both
  machines are running FreeBSD, since I gave up on waiting for Windows to
  copy
  the files.  The CPU load on Window when sending  1 meg per second is
  usually
  about 30%, while the Unix box is only at 1-2%.  When I have 2 Unix boxes
  sending/receiving, I think the load is like 4-5% on both.  I'm building
 a
  bunch of packages right now, so I can't get the exact number.  I could
 try
  the openssh patch later in the week, that would be great if there was a
  unix-side fix for this. Of course as I run FreeBSD more, and Windows
 less,
  the problem will go away, too.
 
  thanks!
 
 
 
  On 2/20/06, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 2/20/06, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   For about a year I have noticed that whenever my Windows boxes talk
 to
  my
   Unix boxes, they communicate at about 1/10 normal speed. I copy lots
  (300GB)
   of large files back and forth between machines as I try different
  OS's,
  and
   I always see this.
  
   Specifically, if I copy from FreeBSD to FreeBSD, files transfer at 11
  megs
   per second.  Between FreeBSD and Linux, at about 8 megs per
  second.  Between
   FreeBSD and Windows, about 1 megabyte per second.  This is on
  identical
   hardware.  I've told other people about this, and they usually say I
  must be
   doing something wrong, but recently a friend of mine upgraded a
  Windows
  box
   to SP2, and now they are getting this same slowness.  When I copy
 from
   Windows to WIndows (XP or W2k), I get 11 megs per second.
  
   My machines are two P4's with gigabit NICs, and I'm using WinSCP and
   (somtimes) pscp.exe on WIndows to talk to sshd on FreeBSD.  It's
  always
  a
   shock when I have to copy my data to WIndows, and it takes 30 hours
  instead
   of 3.
  
   Does anyone else ever see this slowness when copying files between
  FreeBSD
   and Windows?
  
   Is Windows maybe capping the transfer speed when it talks to Unix?
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  It is very certainly a known issue. Not that its specifics and
  origins are clearly known, but most of us stumble upon it
  sooner or later. You can usually achieve wire speed only
  between two OSes of a kind. TCP/IP optimizations are
  very important here: if they differ, performance plummets.
  Depends on a multitude of things from quality of NICs to
  weather in your area. I've never been able to get more
  than 70Mbit/s between FreeBSD and Windows XP. I
  always get 90-100Mbit/s between two BSDs or two Win's.
 
  As for your case, 1MB/s is a serious limit. What can you
  tell us about CPU load? Interrupts? Can you try this:
  http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
 

 If you have both the XP and FreeBSD machines on the same internal network,
 why not enable file sharing on the XP box and use Samba Client on the
 freeBSD box. I have found SMB to be a lot faster as it is running as a
 service on XP.


 Rob


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Re: Download

Maybe try this download manager:

http://www.freedownloadmanager.org




On 2/20/06, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Dear Developers:
 
 
  I have been trying (FOR A LONGTIME) to download a FreeBSD Unix OS (i.e.
 5.4,
  6.0-RELEASE iso.i386).  But it has never worked.  I was wondering if
 your
  company/team/crew have disabled it.
  If no then how can I go about doing that.

 It is not disabled.
 But your site or ISP may have set things up so that you have to
 use passive ftp or some port of your ports may be blocked by the ISP
 or a local firewall.   Those are the likely problems.

 Try switching to passive ftp first, or if that is they way you
 are already running, try switching to active ftp.   The FreeBSD site
 will do both.

 If that doesn't help, start checking ports and your ISP's policies.

 Good luck,

 jerry

 
  Thank You...
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Re: WinSCP mega-slowness

would doing a 'make install clean' inside /usr/ports/security/hpn-ssh  fix
the default scp program?



On 2/20/06, fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is a patch to OpenSSH to fix the buffer size problem caused be
 the different operating systems OpenSSH runs on.  When the host and
 remote are different operating systems the send/receive buffer sizes
 do not match and this causes drastic slow down. Like in using Winscp
 client connecting to a FreeBSD box or Linux box.

 ports/security/hpn-ssh/

 contains the patch code to fix this problem in sshd/ssh.

 Check out the patches home page at
 http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin
 Hepworth
 Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:16 PM
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: WinSCP mega-slowness


 Hate to do a me too, but I gotta agree.

 I did the same file transfer using cygwin's scp and winscp and cygwin
 was
 about 10x faster.


 On 2/20/06, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  For about a year I have noticed that whenever my Windows boxes talk
 to my
  Unix boxes, they communicate at about 1/10 normal speed. I copy lots
  (300GB)
  of large files back and forth between machines as I try different
 OS's,
  and
  I always see this.
 
  Specifically, if I copy from FreeBSD to FreeBSD, files transfer at
 11 megs
  per second.  Between FreeBSD and Linux, at about 8 megs per
  second.  Between
  FreeBSD and Windows, about 1 megabyte per second.  This is on
 identical
  hardware.  I've told other people about this, and they usually say I
 must
  be
  doing something wrong, but recently a friend of mine upgraded a
 Windows
  box
  to SP2, and now they are getting this same slowness.  When I copy
 from
  Windows to WIndows (XP or W2k), I get 11 megs per second.
 
  My machines are two P4's with gigabit NICs, and I'm using WinSCP and
  (somtimes) pscp.exe on WIndows to talk to sshd on FreeBSD.  It's
 always a
  shock when I have to copy my data to WIndows, and it takes 30 hours
  instead
  of 3.
 
  Does anyone else ever see this slowness when copying files between
 FreeBSD
  and Windows?
 
  Is Windows maybe capping the transfer speed when it talks to Unix?
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Re: FreeBsd Help

2006-02-19 Thread Xn Nooby

PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD, but is easier to install.  Maybe demo that.



On 2/19/06, Kris Wieschhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am a college student at HLG college. I am a Computer Information
Systems major and I have chosen to present FreeBSD to my class as a
final project. I downloaded version 6.0 from the freeBSD Site. I made
a bootable CD-ROM from the ISO image disc one. The installation seemed
to have went ok, but when I go to put a password in for the root user
nothing happens. When I type letters the insertion point (cursor) just
stays in the same place as if no letters are being typed. When I turn
it on now it seems to boot up fine. After I type in my login name and
password I am unsure of how to install or run an application, which I
am required to do for the project. I have tried finding a basic
tutorial on the internet, but have been unable to do so. Please
Help!!!
  _

[1]Find just what you're after with the new, more precise MSN Search -
try it now!

 References

1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2755??PS=47575
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Re: fresh install, portupgrade fails on xterm

2006-02-19 Thread Xn Nooby

I did a pkg_delete and I think a 'make deinstall clean', then re-did my
update process - which worked.  All these months experimenting with FreeBSD
I never saw anything in the UPDATING that effected me, and the first time I
didn't look, it had the answer to my question, lol.

thanks!



On 2/18/06, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 18 February 2006 12:08, Xn Nooby wrote:
  its depressing when a fresh install fails
 
  i followed my normal fail-proof slow method of updating a fresh
  install, and it fails to update xterm, some of the messages are:
 
  == xterm-206_1 conflicts with  installed packages:
 xorg-clients-6.8.2
  *** Error code 1
 
  
 
  ** Listing the failed packages
! x11/xterm (xterm-203) (install error)
 * x11/xorg-clients (xorg-clients-6.8.2)
 
 
  I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.1.  I hadnt even gotten to
  configuring with X, so I was surprised there was a problem there.
  the command tat generated the error was:
 
 portpgrade -arR
 
 
  I'm guessing other people will also be getting this error soon.


 Maybe they read /usr/ports/UPDATING where

 20051113:
   AFFECTS: users of x11/xterm, x11/xorg-clients, x11/XFree86-4-clients
   AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Xterm no longer installs with '-static' prefix. Users should upgrade
   XFree86-clients to 4.5.0_1 or xorg-clients to 6.8.2_1 or newer before
   attempting upgrade of xterm to 206_1 or newer. Previous versions
 remove
   xterm on deinstall so CONFLICTS have been set accordingly.

 It worked for me back in November :).

 Kent

 --
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 Richland, WA

 http://www.soyandina.com/ I am Andean project.
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WinSCP mega-slowness

2006-02-19 Thread Xn Nooby

For about a year I have noticed that whenever my Windows boxes talk to my
Unix boxes, they communicate at about 1/10 normal speed. I copy lots (300GB)
of large files back and forth between machines as I try different OS's, and
I always see this.

Specifically, if I copy from FreeBSD to FreeBSD, files transfer at 11 megs
per second.  Between FreeBSD and Linux, at about 8 megs per second.  Between
FreeBSD and Windows, about 1 megabyte per second.  This is on identical
hardware.  I've told other people about this, and they usually say I must be
doing something wrong, but recently a friend of mine upgraded a Windows box
to SP2, and now they are getting this same slowness.  When I copy from
Windows to WIndows (XP or W2k), I get 11 megs per second.

My machines are two P4's with gigabit NICs, and I'm using WinSCP and
(somtimes) pscp.exe on WIndows to talk to sshd on FreeBSD.  It's always a
shock when I have to copy my data to WIndows, and it takes 30 hours instead
of 3.

Does anyone else ever see this slowness when copying files between FreeBSD
and Windows?

Is Windows maybe capping the transfer speed when it talks to Unix?
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fresh install, portupgrade fails on xterm

2006-02-18 Thread Xn Nooby

its depressing when a fresh install fails

i followed my normal fail-proof slow method of updating a fresh install, and
it fails to update xterm, some of the messages are:

== xterm-206_1 conflicts with  installed packages:
   xorg-clients-6.8.2
*** Error code 1



** Listing the failed packages
  ! x11/xterm (xterm-203) (install error)
   * x11/xorg-clients (xorg-clients-6.8.2)


I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.1.  I hadnt even gotten to configuring with
X, so I was surprised there was a problem there.  the command tat generated
the error was:

   portpgrade -arR


I'm guessing other people will also be getting this error soon.
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small freebsd laptop suggestions?

2006-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby

I would like to get a small laptop dedicated to (desktop) FreeBSD 6.x,
ideally one that could run Win2000 inside QEMU and has an nVidia chip so I
can do OpenGL stuff.   Any suggestions?  It doesnt have to be superfast,
though I would prolly want to drop a 100GB 2.5 drive in it later.

2 years ago I foolishly bought a HP Pavillion, and I have to use an external
keyboard with it for FreebSD (or else it wont boot).  The HP laptop is now a
dedicated Windows machine (and I'd return it if I could).

Is anyone using a laptop that they are happy with?  Maybe a refurbished
Thinkpad? (though I prefer to buy lapotops new, in case they are duds).  I
dont particularly trust the online lists of laptops that work with
FreeBSD, since my other laptop is on one of them.

I plan to carry the laptop around a lot, so I'm looking for something a
little smaller than average.  My HP Pavillion is about 7lbs, which is too
big.  Maybe a small Thinkpad, if they still make them?
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Re: small freebsd laptop suggestions?

2006-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby

I forget exactly what I tried a few months ago, I thought I tried everything
everyone said.  The hints you mentioned look different, so maybe I better
try them. Maybe the hints came from another thread, after I had given up.
If my existing laptop can be made to run FreeBSD without having to attach an
external USB keyboard, I will be very happy.

thanks!


On 2/17/06, Micah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Xn Nooby wrote:
  I would like to get a small laptop dedicated to (desktop) FreeBSD 6.x,
  ideally one that could run Win2000 inside QEMU and has an nVidia chip so
 I
  can do OpenGL stuff.   Any suggestions?  It doesnt have to be superfast,
  though I would prolly want to drop a 100GB 2.5 drive in it later.
 
  2 years ago I foolishly bought a HP Pavillion, and I have to use an
 external
  keyboard with it for FreebSD (or else it wont boot).  The HP laptop is
 now a
  dedicated Windows machine (and I'd return it if I could).
 
  Is anyone using a laptop that they are happy with?  Maybe a refurbished
  Thinkpad? (though I prefer to buy lapotops new, in case they are
 duds).  I
  dont particularly trust the online lists of laptops that work with
  FreeBSD, since my other laptop is on one of them.
 
  I plan to carry the laptop around a lot, so I'm looking for something a
  little smaller than average.  My HP Pavillion is about 7lbs, which is
 too
  big.  Maybe a small Thinkpad, if they still make them?

 No specific suggestion, just curious if you tried your pavillion with
 the settings that were recommended on this list a couple of months back?
   Search for Pavillion laptop in the questions list.

 Quick recap: interrupt the kernel loading process, then
 set hint.sio.0.disabled=1
 set hint.sio.1.disabled=1
 set hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x9
 boot

 Works on my Presario (I know, not a Pavillion, but it's worth a try).
 Use the FreeBSD install disk to test it.

 As for specific laptops, find  one you like, search Google to see if
 anyone has gotten it to work with FreeBSD, repeat until you find one
 that works.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] might be a good place to ask
 too.  The archives of that list usually has several recommendations.

 HTH,
 Micah

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Re: small freebsd laptop suggestions?

2006-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby

thats an awesome website!  I will check it out more thoroughly over the
weekend, they had a lot of used thinkpads

thanks!


On 2/17/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2/17/06, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would like to get a small laptop dedicated to (desktop) FreeBSD 6.x,
  ideally one that could run Win2000 inside QEMU and has an nVidia chip so
 I
  can do OpenGL stuff.   Any suggestions?  It doesnt have to be superfast,
  though I would prolly want to drop a 100GB 2.5 drive in it later.
 
  2 years ago I foolishly bought a HP Pavillion, and I have to use an
 external
  keyboard with it for FreebSD (or else it wont boot).  The HP laptop is
 now a
  dedicated Windows machine (and I'd return it if I could).
 
  Is anyone using a laptop that they are happy with?  Maybe a refurbished
  Thinkpad? (though I prefer to buy lapotops new, in case they are
 duds).  I
  dont particularly trust the online lists of laptops that work with
  FreeBSD, since my other laptop is on one of them.
 
  I plan to carry the laptop around a lot, so I'm looking for something a
  little smaller than average.  My HP Pavillion is about 7lbs, which is
 too
  big.  Maybe a small Thinkpad, if they still make them?

 You want a Apple PowerBook err... MacBook Pro. I have a G4 model and
 it's sweet... anyways, if you don't want a Mac then look for corporate
 / large business orientated notebooks. They normally don't have all
 the stupid whiz-bang features found on home notebooks and are modular
 across product lines. For example I had and HP OmniBook 6000 (700Mhz)
 and desided I wanted a faster book so I  found a striped out OmniBook
 6100 (1.13Ghz PIII-M) on eBay. It used the same batteries, drive
 trays, PowerBrick, etc. so I just used the ones from the old notebook.
 As for the OB6100 I have, I've never tried FreeBSD on it but SuSE 9.3
 Pro worked perfect. I Have Win2K on it now so I can run Multisim,
 Mathematica, Maple, and other proprietary software I need for college.
 (Going back to school for computer engineering degree.)

 You can pickup used notebooks at RetroBox.
 RetroBox clients are Fortune 500 companies. When a Fortune 500
 company upgrades to leading edge technology, they leave behind a trail
 of some of the best maintained previously-owned desktop computer
 equipment available. Well, we're all over it!

 http://www.retrobox.com/rbwww/home/search_results_pc_laptops.asp?bin_id=world

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What doesn't work on desktop FreeBSD ? (ex Webcams)

2006-02-14 Thread Xn Nooby

I bought a QuickCam Orbit MP, which I apparently must use under Windows (or
Linux).  From what I've seen online, not many (if any), people are using
webcams under FreeBSD.  I was curious if there were other things that also
were not realistic to do (I'm not complaining).

Some of the things that do work are my soundcard, nVidia card, gigabit NIC,
opengl games, wine, accelerated qemu, hp inkjet printer, and lots of
wonderful free software.  Qemu nullified my need for VMWare (though I own
5.5 for win and linux). OpenOffice, Abiword, and Firefox with flash and java
works.   Lots of stuff works.

I'm just curious if I am going to hit any roadblocks down the road.

(Maybe there is a way to get my Quickcam to work using the RH
8.0compatibilty layer)

thank!
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Re: changelog for 6.1 ?

2006-02-11 Thread Xn Nooby

Ok, thanks.  I went here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/CVSROOT/

but I don't see a changelog, or a file that looks like one.  I'm still not
very familiar with FreeBSD, I  guess I will wait for the official release.

thx



On 2/11/06, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 01:11:22AM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
  Do you know what the URL is?  I'm looking around here:
 
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD

 http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ (as 10 seconds with google would have shown
 you ;-)

 Kris



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Re: fbdesk or idesk for fluxbox icons?

2006-02-11 Thread Xn Nooby

That also works on closing the fbdesk menu, thanks!



On 2/11/06, ajm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:45:47AM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
  I'm trying to figure out fbdesk, but there is amazingly little to go on.
  Does anyone have any sample config files?
 
  Or should I be using idesk?
 
  I have fluxbox 0.9.14 on FreeBSD 6.0.
 
  I also sometimes can't get rid of the fluxbox menu, which is highly
  annoying.
 
  thanks!
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 Since I don't use the fbdesk or idesk only thing I can help you with
 is the menu.  I am using fluxbox 0.1.14.  To hide the main menu
 again, right click on the menu title.

 maybe this will help for fbdesk...
 http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbdesk/


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changelog for 6.1 ?

2006-02-10 Thread Xn Nooby

I was trying to find out if the keyboard on my zv5445us HP Pavillion laptop
will work, but I can't find the list of bugs fixed.  My laptop only works
with an external USB keyboard.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-February/015418.html

A lot of bugfixes havebeen made, some drivers have been updated, and some
areas have been tweaked for better performance, etc. but no large changes
have been made to the basic architecture.

And:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/todo.html

That's all I've been able to find so far.
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Re: changelog for 6.1 ?

2006-02-10 Thread Xn Nooby

Do you know what the URL is?  I'm looking around here:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD




On 2/10/06, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 04:32:43PM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
  I was trying to find out if the keyboard on my zv5445us HP Pavillion
 laptop
  will work, but I can't find the list of bugs fixed.  My laptop only
 works
  with an external USB keyboard.

 You need to look at the CVS repository (in the CVSRoot directory),
 e.g. with cvsweb.

 Kris



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fbdesk or idesk for fluxbox icons?

2006-02-10 Thread Xn Nooby

I'm trying to figure out fbdesk, but there is amazingly little to go on.
Does anyone have any sample config files?

Or should I be using idesk?

I have fluxbox 0.9.14 on FreeBSD 6.0.

I also sometimes can't get rid of the fluxbox menu, which is highly
annoying.

thanks!
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Re: Any good OpenGL games?

On 2/5/06, Evgeny Solovyov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I play quake3, quake4, doomIII

 linux-quake3-demo
 linux-quake4
 linux-doom3-demo



 I tried quakeforge, but when I get a missing WAD error when I try
nq-glx.  Are these games you mentioned complete? It will be great if so!
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

 I want to ask you: how long does it take you to cvsup your ports, run
 'portsdb
 -Uu', and finish with 'portversion -l  '? To run 'portsnap fetch
 update',
 then 'portversion -v | grep needs', it took less then 55 seconds and I was
 off upgrading ports. The procedure I used had no errors.


I think it takes about 40 minutes to run portsdb -Uu on my normal P4
desktop, and several hours inside a virtual machine.  My old P3 laptop took
2 hours.  Portsnap took about 1 minute, it was very fast.

The procedure I used had no errors.

Everyone that knows what they are doing never seem to have a problem.
Generally people say, I just did a 'portsnap -AbCdDeF' and it worked
great!, but then it turns out that command was one of many that preceeded
and followed it, which they neglected to mention.


Both ways of upgrading work. Neither way will tell you about the conflict
 between pilot-link and libmal. You're going to have to find out about
 during
 an upgrade or, or wait and read about it on the list. So you can't be
 talking
 about that as a problem with portsnap. Just what was the problem you had
 with
 portsnap?


I believe I had a stale dependency with imagemagic that I chose to force
to continue.  That was on a brand new install, and it happend twice (I tried
reinstalling).  Maybe I can try to recreate it in a VMWare virtual machine
so I can reproduce it.

I think I also got the ruby error, if that was the one that happend about 1
year ago.  I remember doing an upgrade which broke the system, so I
reinstalled it a few days later.

 Also, is it not possible to make a system that does not have conflicts?
Maybe OS's are simply too complex.  It would seem like there should be a way
to kick off a global update and rebuild that started with the core pieces
first, and then moved up the dependency tree level-by-level.  Something that
was 100% guaranteed to work, and took 1 command.
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

On 2/5/06, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Xn Nooby writes:

   Everyone that knows what they are doing never seem to have a problem.

 Respectfully, rubbish.
 I use portupgrade; where it seems applicable I am careful to
 mention one ought to read the manual completely, and to state my
 experiences where it has clearly and without provocation Done the
 Wrong Thing.  Similar behavior can be observed in other posters,
 with a statistical bias toward the more technically experienced.
 (Your mileage may vary.)


Okay.
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

 portmanager -u -f -l -y

 will rebuild all of the installed ports in a logical manner as well as
 creating a log file for the user to examine if necessary.


I will try that, thx!

I will also look in to:
  portmanager
  portsclean
  portsnap
  portversion
 (any others?)
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

By the looks of it when you cvsup you get everything (src-all,
 ports-all, etc) all at once. I think it might be better if you split
 that into two sup-files where you would have one for the system,
 src-all, and the other one for ports. This way you don't have to
 rebuild the system every time you update your ports, this also works
 the other way around. Once a branch is cut and declared -STABLE the
 libraries used to make your programs work are rarely changed, If it
 does change they will tell you in /usr/src/UPDATING. For the sake of
 troubleshooting it helps if you don't change everything all at once.


I thought that maybe by changing everything at once, I would avoid
mismatched libraries.

Someone should write a book on all this stuff, and explain it thoroughly,
with various case examples.  When I use the old slow way, I never get an
error - when I use portsnap, I do.  This makes me inclined to never use
portsnap, regardless of how fast it is.
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Any good OpenGL games?

I have a P4 2Ghz with an nVidia card, so I installed the nVidia driver.  I'm
currently installing 'linux-enemyterritory' which I think will work.  I
didn't know if there were any other good ones.  Is flightgear or gl117 any
good?

I also have wine on my system, is it difficult to get windows opengl games
to run?  I've heard of cedega on linux, but would rather roll my own free
solution if possible (or copy someone elses method).

Playing Call of Duty would be ideal, or maybe Return to Castle
Wolfenstein.
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Re: Any good OpenGL games?

I will try the games you guys mentioned, though I did not see Americas Army
in the ports tree.  Here are some I found (their homepages)

http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v0.9.9/
http://www.quakeforge.net/about.php
http://adonthell.linuxgames.com/art_gallery/index.shtml
http://game1.atitd.com/screens/thumbs.html
http://bzflag.org/
http://www.icculus.org/d2x/
http://deng.sourceforge.net/blog/
http://legacy.newdoom.com/
http://www.icculus.org/duke3d/
http://netpanzer.berlios.de/screenshots.html
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/games/nethack34/
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/games/rtcw
http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/
http://torcs.sourceforge.net/
http://www.vavoom-engine.com/
http://www.wesnoth.org/
http://www.positro.net/trigger/
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Re: Any good OpenGL games?

On 2/4/06, Alastair G. Hogge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 05 February 2006 12:06, Xn Nooby wrote:
  I have a P4 2Ghz with an nVidia card, so I installed the nVidia driver.
  I'm currently installing 'linux-enemyterritory' which I think will
 work.  I
  didn't know if there were any other good ones.  Is flightgear or gl117
 any
  good?
 I just installed jfduke3d and downloaded the high res texture
 pack...brings an
 old great game back to life.


Ah that was a great game back in the day of 'lan parties' !


 I also have wine on my system, is it difficult to get windows opengl games
  to run?
 OpenGL MS-Windows games under Wine seem to work ok.
 DirectX games are a little slow in my opinion.


Have you tried any I might have heard of?  Maybe Silent Assassin or City of
Heroes? (I'm not sure if they are OpenGL).  I've only used wine for zip,
7zip, winrar, freeagent, and some other utilty apps.  I wonder if wine will
detect that I later installed the nvidia OpenGL driver?



 I've heard of cedega on linux, but would rather roll my own free
  solution if possible (or copy someone elses method).
 
  Playing Call of Duty would be ideal, or maybe Return to Castle
  Wolfenstein.
 RtCW under Wine runs fines...most id games do I think. Also there is Linux
 binary of RtCW which is probably a better method then Wine.


Is this one a FreeBSD native RTCW?

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/games/rtcw

I lost my old Window pk3 file, but it looks they are free now:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/games/rtcw-paks/

I will try it when Enemy Territory finishes.  It's taken 5 hours to download
ET, whoever is hosting 250MB file isnt giving up much bandwidth.  But its
free, so I'm not complaining. Much, lol.

thanks!
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cloop or zisofs or a better way?

2006-02-03 Thread Xn Nooby

I'm looking for a way to compress about 20GB of ASCII data in to a read-only
file that is as small as possible.  I found 'cloop' and 'zisofs', though I
could not find anything on the net where FreeBSD people were using them.
They are in the ports tree, so I figure somebody is.  Is there  a preferred
way under FreeBSD of doing this?  I've heard of people using loopback
connections, and I guess that's what cloop is.  Or maybe there is a way to
mount a tgz file? I'm using FreeBSD 6.x.

Also, is there a crossplatform way of doing this?  For example, if I had a
compressed volume, would I be able to read it under Linux and maybe
Windows?  I dont really need crossplatform, but was curious.
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

2006-02-03 Thread Xn Nooby

 It just does, after you cvsup new ports cd into /usr/ports and type
 make fetchindex. what way is the old foolproof way?


Here is how I update my system (without using a 'make fetchindex')

  cvsup -g -L 2 /root/stable-supfile
  less UPDATING
  make buildworld
  make buildkernel
  make installkernel
  shutdown now
  cd /usr/src
  make installworld
  mergemaster
  shutdown -r now
  portsdb -Uu
  portversion -l 
  portupgrade -arR
  reboot

It takes forever, but it works everytime.  Everything else I've ever tried
has always had some kind of error, and I never know what they mean or what I
should do.

Maybe by never doing a fetchindex, I've never really updated my system, and
thats why its never had a problem, lol. That would be embarassing.
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Re: portupgrade xorg-* - mouse-wheel stops working under X

2006-02-02 Thread Xn Nooby

I fixed this problem by killing moused and setting the device to /dev/psm0.
I thought it was just me!



On 2/2/06, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can always tell xmodmap that you've got 11
 buttons (or whatever xorg tells you in its log). Just
 add ... 8 9 10 11 to the map and it will work fine
 once again.
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Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

2006-02-01 Thread Xn Nooby

Since I've gone back to the old foolproof way of updating my system, I'm
doing a portsdb -Uu again - which has always taken forever to run on my
various machines.  Is there a way to speed it up (without replacing it), or
has anyone looked at it to see if it needs rewriting?

I worked at a place where a monthly mainframe job ran for 24 hours, and the
whole plant had to shutdown while it ran (which wasnt too big a deal since
it was on Sunday).  When the job started taking 36 hours to run and the
original programmer was too busy to fix it,  they brought in a consultant to
help.  He re-wrote the job so it ran in 15 minutes.  The original programmer
was fired two days later.  Since then, I've always been suspicous of jobs
that run for long periods of time.
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Standard way of updating 6.x ?

2006-01-31 Thread Xn Nooby

Is there a suggested method for updating a newly installed FreeBSD
6.0system?  I have found several websites with similar but differing
methods,
often somehow specific to the author's configuration.  What I usually do
first is install from a CD and get a bare-bones system bootable.  What I
would like to do after that is update the kernel, system programs, user
programs, and packages.  I usually end up using cvsup, portsnap, and
portupgrade with varying levels of success.

What I would really like is a fool-proof method that works everytime, if
there is such a thing.  For example, rebuilding things at the lowest layer
first, and working my way up.  I was following a websites tutorial
yesterday, and was confronted with a stale imagemagic dependency, where I
chose to force an override.  I didn't know if I was doing some wrong or
not, and it seemed to work, but I would rather not have to force anything,
if possible.

Previously I had posted the steps I was using, and several people made
annotations which I was able to integrate, but I was mostly curious if there
wasn't some standard way. I am trying to use portsnap, since it seems much
faster than cvsup, but the handbook doesn't seem to have portsnap integrated
in to the rebuild steps yet (it is in the appendix I think).

There seems to be updates steps for 4.x and 5.x, but not yet 6.x, or maybe I
just have found them yet.  There seems to be a lot of ways to update your
system right now.
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Is there a way to take all defaults on a make install clean

2006-01-30 Thread Xn Nooby

I'd like to automate the 40+ ports I always make install clean on, and
always take the defaults.

Is there a way to make it not prompt, and just take the defaults?

thanks!
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Quickcam Orbit MP on FreeBSD?

2006-01-29 Thread Xn Nooby

I bought a fancy Quickcam (face-tracking), though I have no idea how to make
it work with FreeBSD.  I installed qcamview, but when I run it as root, it
says Not found Quickcam, or Permission denied.

Anyone know anything about Quickcams on FreeBSD?  I don't expect it to work,
but it would be cool if it did.  There seems to be very little information
on the net about qcamview.

I'd be happy to just snapshots with it.  I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 and Fluxbox.
The cam is USB 2.0.

Any suggestions?
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Re: Is there a how-to super-page for FreeBSD?

2006-01-29 Thread Xn Nooby

On 1/28/06, fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Give the install guide at www.a1poweruser.com  a try.
 What you call add-ons is what FreeBSD calls the port/package
 environment.
 A very simple command of pkg_add -r flash will download and install
 it.



That's a very good website, it is bascially what I was looking for. thanks!

As for Flash, I has to copy an example libmap.conf, and make some
softlinks.  I think I did make install clean on it.  If I had installed
the package, would those extra steps have been done for me?
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Is there a how-to super-page for FreeBSD?

2006-01-28 Thread Xn Nooby

There are several websites people have put together for Ubuntu that show
every little step for configuring Ubuntu, is there such a page for FreeBSD?

For example, tonight I installed Firefox, and wanted to install Acrobat,
Flash, Realplayer, and Java.  I was able to find Acrobat and Flash by using
Google (the solution was at bsdforums.org).  Realplayer and Java I still
need to find.

Here is an example of a really useful Ubuntu page:   http://ubuntuguide.org

The Add-On Applications is especially useful for people who have just done
an install, and want their machine to be a desktop machine.

It just seems like the only way to find out things for FreeBSD is to ask on
the lists, or Google a list archive.  It would be really great if there was
a super-page that had all the common add-ons.  I use Fluxbox instead of
GNOME or KDE, so  I prefer generic solutions.

I've been keeping notes as I play with FreeBSD, and will eventually put up
such a page if no one beats me to it.  I'm still a FreeBSD nooby though, so
it might take me a while.  There are some people here that bascially know
how to do everything with FreeBSD, I guess I'm hoping they will put
something together (or maybe help me).
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Re: A strategic question

2006-01-28 Thread Xn Nooby

I have had a lot of frustration in learning Unix, but I stick to it because
I know it is the last OS I will ever need to learn.  Unix doesn't change, so
the effort you put in to learning it will never be wasted.  If you stick
with commerical OS's, they are going to drag you through every release of
their OS - as that is how they get you to give them your money.

If you can master Unix, you will never have to purchase software again, and
will rarely need to upgrade hardware.  You will be free of nag-ware,
spy-ware, entering license codes, etc.  You will never be a software pirate
or fear an audit.

If you want to simplify things, try this.  Install FreeBSD without a GUI,
and use it for 1 month.  When you remove all the fluff, you will be left
with the core system.  You will be forced to learn the fundamentals, and in
a simplistic environtment.  So many variables will removed from the
equation, that the math will be very simple.

Once you are proficient using the shell, enviroment, you can add a GUI, like
Fluxbox, KDE, or GNOME.  You will have deep a understanding of how they work
because you will already know the fundamentals.

You can also do a lot from a shell-enviroment.  You can rip/burn/play cd's,
browse the web, word-process, email, newsgroups, program, etc.  You will
also be able to do all those things *remotely*.

As far as I know, the people that work on FreeBSD work on it to suit *their*
needs.  As a user, it might suck that they don't have to please you - but
there is also nothing preventing you from becoming a developer.  Not having
to answer to anyone cuts both ways, the developers are not controlled by any
commercial interest or non-commercial interest.  It's very likely that being
popular is not as important as developing something they find useful for
themselves.

If you want the freedom that FreeBSD offers, you have to make the journey to
where it is at.

If it turns out FreeBSD is not for you, there is still good news.  The more
experience you have with the different Linux and BSD distros, the more free
you become.  All these system are based on the same fundamentals.
 Everything you learn will be useful forever.

If you want software to be Free, you can always pirate Windows apps.  If
*you* want to be Free, you are going to have learn how the Free systems
work.

I have tried many linux and BSD distros.  FWIW, FreeBSD is generally
regarded as one-notch above all the Linux distros.  Even before I tried
FreeBSD, I had heard it was the best in a number of ways, but also the
hardest to learn.  Most linux users seemed to think of the FreeBSD crowd as
older, better trained, and more disciplined  - and that the software
reflected this.  I have basically found this to be true.

People use to tell me that the FreeBSD lists were extremely unfriendly, and
I have found that to be completely untrue.  Usually if you show you made an
attempt to figure something out, and ask in the generally correct way,
people really try to help you.   I think the more focused lists expect more
focused questions, but that is understandable.  Ironically the linux forums
are where I have seen most of the OMG RTFM NOOB! type comments.

Well, I could go and on.  One thing I'd really want you to consider is that
the goal is - to free yourself.
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Easy way to activate KQEMU for QEMU?

Hi,

I installed QEMU from /usr/ports/emulation/qemu on my FreeBSD 6.0 box.  Next
I installed /usr/ports/emulation/kqemu-qmod.  When I run QEMU, I enter info
kqemu in the monitor, and it says kqemu support is not compiled.

Is there an easy way to activate kqemu?

thanks!
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Re: Easy way to activate KQEMU for QEMU?

Awesome, so I could either deinstall both and re-install kqemu, or just
rebuild qemu with the knob set?  (I don't know what a knob is, but I think I
can find out.)

thanks!



On 26 Jan 2006 14:17:55 -0500, Lowell Gilbert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I installed QEMU from /usr/ports/emulation/qemu on my FreeBSD 6.0box.  Next
  I installed /usr/ports/emulation/kqemu-qmod.  When I run QEMU, I enter
 info
  kqemu in the monitor, and it says kqemu support is not compiled.
 
  Is there an easy way to activate kqemu?

 Build kqemu-qmod *before* building qemu.
 There is a knob in the qemu Makefile to set kqemu as a dependency.

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Is this Handbook the Handbook?

Are these 2 books for sale here:


http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdhandbk3.set?id=7kmQYrZGmv_pc=284

the same as the online Handbook here:

   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

?
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Re: Is this Handbook the Handbook?

I also prefer printed books, so I will probably get them.

thanks!

On 1/26/06, Mick Charles Beaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To the best of my knowledge, they are. I purchased the user book and
 read it cover to cover because it was more convenient that staring at
 web pages.

 The online docs are more current.

 -Mick Charles Beaver

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Re: Easy way to activate KQEMU for QEMU?