Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

2010-05-02 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:35 pm, Ian Smith wrote:
 Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week
 or so after having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since
 around early April?

Yes Ian,
I've received at least 6 in total -- the latest on 25-04-2010

Regards,
Malcolm


 I've had four such in the last three days, and the only
 recipient the messages that I posted have in common is the
 -questions list itself.

 If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more
 widespread I'll ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try
 hunting the errant recipient.

 cheers, Ian

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 Subject: Re: reliable rs-232
 Sent Date: 25:05 +
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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

2010-04-21 Thread perryh
Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:

 One bounce is bad enough if it goes back to the whole list
 -- but that could be excused as a momentary aberration.
 Any more than that is grounds for reporting the message to
 postmas...@freebsd.org and having the sender blacklisted:
 anyone that configures a mail server to send error notifications
 to an entire mailing list needs a) to spend some quality time
 studying the SMTP RFCs and b) to step away from the keyboard
 /now/ as they are clearly not competent to run a mail server
 on the Internet.

I've seen no indications of the bounces going to the list, only to
the sender (i.e. I posted 4 messages to freebsd-questions@ and got
back 4 bounces; I didn't get bounces that seemed related to anyone
else's posts).  However, it does look as if someone needs to teach
that mailserver about the Errors-To: header.

 Thoroughly recommend using relaydb(1) to teach your mail system
 where you've received spam from in the past and make sure it
 doesn't happen again ...

I let my uucp(!) upstream's Red Condor spam filter deal with that
sort of problem :)
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[SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

2010-04-20 Thread Ian Smith
Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so after 
having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since around early April?

I've had four such in the last three days, and the only recipient the 
messages that I posted have in common is the -questions list itself.

If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread I'll 
ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant recipient.

cheers, Ian

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for smi...@nimnet.asn.au; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:08:57 +1000 (EST)
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Received: from bda204.bisx.produk.on.blackberry 
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o3K38hOk001521
for smi...@nimnet.asn.au; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:08:43 GMT
Received: from bda204.bisx.produk.on.blackberry (localhost.localdomain 
[127.0.0.1])
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for smi...@nimnet.asn.au; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:08:43 GMT
Received: (from r...@localhost)
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From: postmas...@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za
Subject: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
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Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;

boundary=1804289383_1271732923_630786135_2147483647_bda204.bisx.produk.on.blackberry

Your message:
To: twelc...@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za
Subject: Re: reliable rs-232
Sent Date: 25:05 +
has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.
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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

2010-04-20 Thread perryh
Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote:

 Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so
 after having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since around early
 April?

 I've had four such in the last three days ...

 If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread
 I'll ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant
 recipient.

 cheers, Ian

 -- Forwarded message --
snip headers
 Your message:
 To: twelc...@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za
 Subject: Re: reliable rs-232
 Sent Date: 25:05 +
 has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.

Now that you mention it, yes.  A posting to freebsd-questions@
about 01:00 (US Pacific) on Apr 06 did not get one of those, but
one about 01:10 on Apr 08 and three (one about 01:00, two about
19:10) on Apr 09 did.  The first notice turned up at 20:16 Apr 16,
and the other three between 20:13 and 20:15 on Apr 17.  All four
specify the same recipient address as yours.
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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

2010-04-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 20/04/2010 08:08:40, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote:
 
 Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so
 after having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since around early
 April?

 I've had four such in the last three days ...

 If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread
 I'll ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant
 recipient.

 cheers, Ian

 -- Forwarded message --
 snip headers
 Your message:
 To: twelc...@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za
 Subject: Re: reliable rs-232
 Sent Date: 25:05 +
 has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.
 
 Now that you mention it, yes.  A posting to freebsd-questions@
 about 01:00 (US Pacific) on Apr 06 did not get one of those, but
 one about 01:10 on Apr 08 and three (one about 01:00, two about
 19:10) on Apr 09 did.  The first notice turned up at 20:16 Apr 16,
 and the other three between 20:13 and 20:15 on Apr 17.  All four
 specify the same recipient address as yours.

I've seen exactly one bounco like this -- but only after grepping
through lots of mail logs and my junk folder.  One bounce is bad enough
if it goes back to the whole list -- but that could be excused as a
momentary aberration.  Any more than that is grounds for reporting the
message to postmas...@freebsd.org and having the sender blacklisted:
anyone that configures a mail server to send error notifications to an
entire mailing list needs a) to spend some quality time studying the
SMTP RFCs and b) to step away from the keyboard /now/ as they are
clearly not competent to run a mail server on the Internet.

Thoroughly recommend using relaydb(1) to teach your mail system where
you've received spam from in the past and make sure it doesn't happen
again.  I've a cron job that processes the contents of my Junk
mailfolder through relaydb on a daily basis.

Cheers,

Matthew

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  Kent, CT11 9PW
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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

2010-04-20 Thread Aiza

Matthew Seaman wrote:

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On 20/04/2010 08:08:40, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote:


Has anyone (everyone?) else been receiving these DSNs a week or so
after having posted to freebsd-questions@ ?  Since around early
April?

I've had four such in the last three days ...

If it's 'just me' I can block their source, but if more widespread
I'll ask our esteemed postmaster (cc'd) to try hunting the errant
recipient.

cheers, Ian

-- Forwarded message --

snip headers

Your message:
To: twelc...@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za
Subject: Re: reliable rs-232
Sent Date: 25:05 +
has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.

Now that you mention it, yes.  A posting to freebsd-questions@
about 01:00 (US Pacific) on Apr 06 did not get one of those, but
one about 01:10 on Apr 08 and three (one about 01:00, two about
19:10) on Apr 09 did.  The first notice turned up at 20:16 Apr 16,
and the other three between 20:13 and 20:15 on Apr 17.  All four
specify the same recipient address as yours.


I've seen exactly one bounco like this -- but only after grepping
through lots of mail logs and my junk folder.  One bounce is bad enough
if it goes back to the whole list -- but that could be excused as a
momentary aberration.  Any more than that is grounds for reporting the
message to postmas...@freebsd.org and having the sender blacklisted:
anyone that configures a mail server to send error notifications to an
entire mailing list needs a) to spend some quality time studying the
SMTP RFCs and b) to step away from the keyboard /now/ as they are
clearly not competent to run a mail server on the Internet.

Thoroughly recommend using relaydb(1) to teach your mail system where
you've received spam from in the past and make sure it doesn't happen
again.  I've a cron job that processes the contents of my Junk
mailfolder through relaydb on a daily basis.

Cheers,

Matthew

- -- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   7 Priory Courtyard

  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
  Kent, CT11 9PW

 I also have been getting Delivery Status Notification(Failure)

about recipient's BlackBerry Handheld. But following that I also get

mail from the questions postmaster saying my emaill is spaming junk mail

and it has a zip file attached.

The email headers only have single hop to me. Looks like forged email.

Sender hoping i will unzip the file so it can install a Trojan. I just 
delete it.


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Re: [SPURIOUS] Delivery Status Notification(Failure) (fwd)

2010-04-20 Thread Ian Smith
Hi all,

Thanks to our indefatiguable postmaster, who has suspended the bouncing 
account with suitable rousing about where bounces should be sent; to the 
envelope-sender, ie the list owner, rather than to individual posters.

cheers, Ian
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